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Speaker 1: Hey, this is our own Welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: August twenty sixth, twenty twenty five. It is the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hope everybody is doing well. We've got what we like

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Speaker 2: to call a special episode today. It's kind of standalone.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna later this week. We're gonna, believe me, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk all about Phillies Metsu later this week. A

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on in this Mets series, of course,

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Speaker 2: But today, guys, we caught up with Phillies Player development

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Speaker 2: Director Luke Martin. Let's start right there with the Parks

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Speaker 2: So we caught up with Luke Martin, farm director, player

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Speaker 2: development director. We hit on all the main guys, right,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Painter, Aiden Miller, Justin Crawford. What was most interesting

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Speaker 2: when you think back to our conversation with Luke, what

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Speaker 2: kind of stuck out to you, guys?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was great to talk to him.

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Speaker 4: It was almost like a progress report because we spoke

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Speaker 4: to him in the offseason. Very articulate guy, doing a

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Speaker 4: good job with that system. I really liked hearing a

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Speaker 4: lot about Aidan Miller and his evolution as a base dealer.

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Speaker 4: The guy's going to end up with fifty plus bags

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Speaker 4: at reading this year and played a lot of shortstop,

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Speaker 4: exclusively shortstop, and they like what they're seeing there. They

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Speaker 4: think he can stay there. I was also interested to

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Speaker 4: hear that they're going to maybe bounce him around the

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Speaker 4: diamond a little bit next year, a little maybe a

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Speaker 4: little third, little at second. I thought they would do

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Speaker 4: that with him this year, but they've kept him at

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Speaker 4: short and they're happy with what they're seeing. Just hear

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Speaker 4: so many good things about that kid, Aidan Miller. It

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Speaker 4: was nice to catch up on Crawford and Painter as well.

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Speaker 4: What jumped out at you, Reuben.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, it was really about Andrew Painter and

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Speaker 5: the fact that you know, he's had a little bit

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Speaker 5: of a difficult season and you know, developing still as

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Speaker 5: a as a pitcher, but the fact that he basically

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Speaker 5: said he still believes he's one of the best pitching

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Speaker 5: prospects in baseball. I don't think he's lost any confidence

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Speaker 5: in this kid's overall ability long term to be a

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Speaker 5: great starting pitcher, top of the rotation type arm.

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Speaker 6: And I think that that was that.

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Speaker 5: Was a little bit of a telltale just because he

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Speaker 5: hasn't had the kind of season so far that has

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Speaker 5: been expected of him.

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Speaker 7: But he has no qualms.

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Speaker 5: About what he's going to mean to this organization long term.

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Speaker 2: You never know, like every prospect develops differently. You think

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Speaker 2: back to mick Abel last year, you would have said,

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Speaker 2: there's no way mick Abel could get you a closer

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Speaker 2: like Julan Douran, you know the way he was pitching,

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Speaker 2: and you know he got things around this year and

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Speaker 2: they end up trading him, of course, and Eduardo ty

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Speaker 2: you to the Twins and get Joan Duran. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was. This is a great conversation. I think everybody is.

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Speaker 2: Luke Mertin, welcome back to the show. You are our

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Speaker 2: first two time guest.

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Speaker 3: Awesome congratulation checks in the mail.

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Speaker 6: Big honor, Glad to be here, excited to be here.

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Speaker 6: This is great.

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Speaker 3: So it's the second half of the Minor league season.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Phillies get through the trade deadline, and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to start with this.

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Speaker 3: You were in Chicago for the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're all all the top Phillies brass and

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Speaker 2: just kind of wondering what that experience was like for

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Speaker 2: you. You know, they trade obviously Mick Abel and Eduardo Tayi

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Speaker 2: to top one hundred guys to get Jawan Daran. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what was what can you kind of tell us about

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Speaker 2: that experience from your point of view.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think at the end of the day,

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Speaker 10: like it was it was an honor to be a

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Speaker 10: don Browski who's been doing it as long as he's

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Speaker 6: But it was fun. It was a good experience.

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Speaker 10: I mean, at the end of the day, like I

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Speaker 10: feel like, we walked out a trade deadline and our

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Speaker 6: The group felt like we need to solidify the back

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Speaker 10: And you never want to give away players because a

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Speaker 10: lot of times the players you're you're trading are the

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Speaker 6: But sometimes you know that's just how the business works.

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Speaker 6: So it was good.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm really excited to get the player. He's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you kind of mentioned, I mean, Durant' has been

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Speaker 4: But as a player development guy, is it tuge at

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Speaker 4: Mickabel who you guys and your staff worked really hard with,

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Speaker 10: Personal lovel Obviously you know you you it is hard

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Speaker 10: if you're really looking at the best interest of all

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Speaker 10: like you know, mick Abel and our team's probably a

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Speaker 10: I mean from a standing standpoint, so you understand, moving

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Speaker 6: More of an opportunity with a different organizations.

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Speaker 10: So sometimes it's you know, you don't like to say goodbye,

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Speaker 10: but it's win win, So it's a good opportunity for

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Speaker 10: the players in Tayi you know, obviously has done a

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Speaker 10: but he'll he'll play himself into having an opportunity, you know,

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Speaker 6: For us and best for them in some way.

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Speaker 10: So it's it's not as hard to say goodbye when

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Speaker 10: I look at it from that perspective.

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Speaker 5: So in the in the case of Mick Abel, I

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Speaker 5: mean he was a guy that had struggled some.

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Speaker 5: move him for such a talented piece, how much gratification

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Speaker 10: sometimes I think in today's game, I think we are

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Speaker 10: So this year he came out, and he definitely he

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Speaker 6: He committed to attacking his own with his stuff.

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Speaker 10: Our pitching group did a phenomenal job of helping him,

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Speaker 10: like recenter his mind and figure out exactly to trust

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Speaker 10: his talent. And you know, I got to see him

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Speaker 10: see a tangible change and his intent to pitch in

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Speaker 6: And I remember I forgot the guys.

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Speaker 10: I think it was Garrett Cooper and triple a hit,

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Speaker 10: he basically just told me, showed me that, you know,

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Speaker 10: he's kind of taking that next step in his development.

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Speaker 10: Anytime you see a player that you know grows and

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Speaker 10: continues to get better throughout their career and their year,

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Speaker 10: it's it's awesome to see.

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Speaker 6: So definitely excited with him, and I.

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Speaker 10: Know he's I haven't looked a ton since he's been traded,

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Speaker 10: but I have seen some stuff pop up. He's been

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Speaker 10: outstanding since he's been over there, which honestly, you trade

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Speaker 10: a player and I will root for them as much

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Speaker 10: as when they were with us because you have a

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Speaker 10: relationship with them. So very happy with where he's at

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Speaker 10: and what he's been doing.

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Speaker 6: Over there as well.

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Speaker 2: I was up in Lehigh Valley a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: ago talking to Anthony Contreras about Andrew Paynter, of course,

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Speaker 2: because everybody wants to know about Andrew, and he said

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Speaker 2: his experience with Mick the year before is kind of

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Speaker 2: helping him in terms of, you know, how to look

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Speaker 10: I think going into the year, I think and He's

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Speaker 10: I've been able to see all these hiring prospects, and

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Speaker 6: Prospects in baseball. I think there is there is something

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Speaker 10: I think externally, the expectations on Andy were when's.

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Speaker 5: Now, it's felt like there's guys that had to go

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Speaker 10: Oh, no question, I think I think everybody has that

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Speaker 6: How's his frame of mind?

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Speaker 4: Because you mentioned there were big expectations coming in, He's

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Speaker 10: Like I look at him as a young as a

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Speaker 4: It looks like, are you surprised that the control hasn't

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Speaker 10: Yeah, i'd say this. I say he walked more. He's

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Speaker 6: So look, I was curious about this.

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Speaker 5: He actually grew a ton after he signed and is

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Speaker 10: I definitely think that's part of it. I think that,

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Speaker 6: So I think it's a combination.

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Speaker 10: Of those two things that I mean, well, it'll look

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Speaker 2: Luke, we were just talking before he hopped on and

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Speaker 10: I think we're just gonna set him out because last

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Speaker 10: now it's becoming a little bit more of his identity

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Speaker 10: as a player, and he's understanding.

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Speaker 6: Who he is the player.

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Speaker 4: Has he has he firmed up in the organization's mind

443
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Speaker 4: that yes, he is a shortstop and he's gonna come

444
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Speaker 4: to the big leagues one day as a short stopper

445
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Speaker 4: can stay there, you know.

446
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Speaker 10: I would say yes, I think this year has been

447
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Speaker 10: a big year for him. Like I'm pretty candid with him,

448
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Speaker 10: like at times, like I have a pretty good relationship

449
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Speaker 10: with him.

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Speaker 6: He surprised me at shortstop this year.

451
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Speaker 10: I probably shouldn't say that, but like he's he's played

452
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Speaker 10: very very well, and I would I would have said

453
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Speaker 10: in years past, there's a chance he can play shortstop,

454
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Speaker 10: I would say, how can play shorts up? Well, he's

455
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Speaker 10: done everything he can do and I think he'll continue

456
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Speaker 10: to get better and he looks great there. He made

457
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Speaker 10: a play the other night. I was at the game

458
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Speaker 10: in Altuna. I don't know if you guys saw the

459
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Speaker 10: Robert Moore flipped. It was a four to six three

460
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Speaker 10: do play. It was the flip was a little off

461
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Speaker 10: aid and tame across the bag full speed, bare handed

462
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Speaker 10: through the.

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Speaker 6: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: I did see that on social media. I got a

465
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Speaker 5: chance to see that play. That was pretty cool.

466
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was impressive, and I watched on video and

467
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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, in person, was that much better?

468
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Speaker 6: It was? It was very very impressive play.

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Speaker 3: So I also saw him make a play.

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Speaker 5: I think it was one of those future games that

471
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Speaker 5: they play in spring training. I saw him make a

472
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Speaker 5: play backhand play in the hole that was just extraordinary.

473
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Speaker 5: And IF talked to Larry bow about him, who obviously

474
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Speaker 5: knows shortstop, played pretty well and he really believes that

475
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Speaker 5: he can play shortstop, and that's a great thing to have.

476
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Speaker 5: I guess my follow up question to that is, I

477
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Speaker 5: think he's athletic enough to move to other places. What's

478
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Speaker 5: your feel on where he could go As far as

479
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Speaker 5: the future for the Phillies is concerned with regard to

480
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Speaker 5: the fact that you know, you got Tray Turner playing

481
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Speaker 5: an excellent level of baseball at shortstop right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 10: I think that's one thing that we probably you know,

484
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Speaker 10: look into a little bit more next year and moving

485
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Speaker 10: them around the field, you know, play some third play,

486
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Speaker 10: some shore, play, some second just just to give him

487
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Speaker 10: more experiences.

488
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's the one thing.

489
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Speaker 10: That's always a little bit of a struggle with players,

490
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Speaker 10: in my opinion, with his talent, is you want to

491
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Speaker 10: play them at their best position or their you know,

492
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Speaker 10: best position to play in the big leagues. But at the

493
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Speaker 10: end of the day, there's a lot of really good

494
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Speaker 10: players in the big leagues, especially with the Philadelphia Phillies,

495
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Speaker 10: So sometimes you have to look at it and you know,

496
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Speaker 10: where does he fit for our team. I don't think

497
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Speaker 10: we've gotten there yet. I think at some point next

498
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Speaker 10: year we might start to explore that.

499
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Speaker 6: A little bit more.

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Speaker 4: But he fits as a contributing big league somewhere, no doubt.

501
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no question. Very cool.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned uh Aiden at the end of the season

503
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Speaker 2: he could maybe get to fifty stone bases. You have

504
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Speaker 2: four guys right now, our friend of the Pods, Steve Potter.

505
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Speaker 2: I saw this in an email for guys with forty

506
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Speaker 2: and more stolen bases, Aiden, Miller, De Martini, Crawford, Roncone.

507
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Speaker 2: You have a couple other guys approaching too, right Noori's

508
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Speaker 2: getting close to forty. Is this just a byproduct of

509
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Speaker 2: you have some athletic guys that can steal bases or

510
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Speaker 2: is this something that you guys are really hammering to

511
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Speaker 2: these guys, be aggressive, try to steal bases. Get your confidence,

512
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Speaker 2: because this could be a real weapon for us whenever

513
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Speaker 2: you get to the big leagues.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say, like first and foremost, it's the

515
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Speaker 10: player's ability to have instincts to run to be able

516
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Speaker 10: to do that, And then I do think like Gary

517
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Speaker 10: Cafbart are based running coordinators in a.

518
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Speaker 6: Phenomenal job of these guys.

519
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Speaker 10: I can tell you Ad Miller stolen based story this

520
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Speaker 10: spring training we're going through because one thing I looked

521
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Speaker 10: at last years I felt like I didn't like how

522
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Speaker 10: much we were getting thrown out, and I do understand

523
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Speaker 10: like when you steal bases, you have to understand when

524
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Speaker 10: you can run, when you can't run. But like getting

525
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Speaker 10: away out not a big fan, but from a development perspective,

526
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Speaker 10: understanding that, hey, we have to where we can go

527
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Speaker 10: when we can go. So at the beginning of her

528
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Speaker 10: Gary Cathcar came into the office and we were going

529
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Speaker 10: over red light, green light guys and guys.

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Speaker 6: I felt comfortable with them. We got to eighty million, okay,

531
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Speaker 6: and Aiden knows this. I told Kat. He's like, hey's

532
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Speaker 6: Greenley guy. Like, hey, he's not a Greenley guy.

533
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Speaker 10: Like he can run a little bit, he's not gonna

534
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Speaker 10: steal bas in the big leagues, Like, don't waste his time,

535
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Speaker 10: don't waste mine.

536
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Speaker 6: Don't do it right. And he's like, Luke, just trust me.

537
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Speaker 6: He can steal basis. And I'm like, I don't think

538
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Speaker 6: he can. Like, but oh, okay, if you really want

539
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Speaker 6: to do it, you can do it. That's fine.

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Speaker 10: When I go in two weeks into the season three

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Speaker 10: s I see I'll probably tell you you can't steal bases.

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Speaker 6: You don't know what you're talking about, you know all

543
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Speaker 6: that stuff.

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Speaker 10: I go in and I see him in Binghamton and

545
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Speaker 10: he gets a jump and he I'm like it's a

546
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Speaker 10: good jump and he runs pretty good.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I'm like pretty good. Like I'm like,

548
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Speaker 6: how bags he have? Like twenty three? I'm like he's

549
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Speaker 6: got what he got? Twenty three bags? And they're like yeah.

550
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Speaker 6: So that I called Kat and I apologized and I said,

551
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Speaker 6: my good job. He definitely can.

552
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Speaker 10: And you know, I'll tell you guys this story one time.

553
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Speaker 10: Abody else it was. It was my idea that he

554
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Speaker 10: should steal more bases.

555
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Speaker 6: That's exactly right, but a good job. And I do think,

556
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Speaker 6: you know, Cat, Cat's doing a good job.

557
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Speaker 10: But I do think Michael Jones, our first base coach

558
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Speaker 10: in Double A, doesn't a phenomenal job. Everywhere he's been,

559
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Speaker 10: guys have done well, and he seems like he really

560
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Speaker 10: helps those guys understand pitchers and tendencies and all that

561
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Speaker 10: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: So the thing that he does, I mean, I obviously

563
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Speaker 5: coached in the big leagues and was a base running

564
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Speaker 5: coach and such for a couple of pretty good ones.

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Speaker 3: Is it an instinct thing for him?

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Speaker 7: Is it a first step quickness? What are some of

567
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Speaker 7: the pluses that he has and the abilities that he

568
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Speaker 7: has that makes him a good base steeler.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And as you know, like for guys at a

570
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Speaker 10: steel base, they have to a run up, and I

571
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Speaker 10: think Aiden runs a you know, fifty.

572
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Speaker 6: Five sixty clip.

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Speaker 10: But I do think the instincts of what's kind of

574
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Speaker 10: taking him over the next edge, the next step, right,

575
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Speaker 10: I think in the day, his anticipation of when to

576
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Speaker 10: go his first step, and then he's got enough speed

577
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Speaker 10: to to carry that over.

578
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Speaker 6: But I have been impressed.

579
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Speaker 10: I do think guys that can steal bases in general,

580
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Speaker 10: their instincts are you know, typically better. If an average

581
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Speaker 10: runner can steal basis a higher clip than another average runner,

582
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Speaker 10: they probably have better instincts.

583
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Speaker 6: So that's the other thing's excited me about how many

584
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Speaker 6: bases he stole is I do think.

585
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Speaker 10: Like his understanding of the game and game situations is

586
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Speaker 10: really improving, which you obviously you hope to see from

587
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Speaker 10: a high school guy, but when it happens, very excited

588
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Speaker 10: about it.

589
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Speaker 4: How about another guy who can move a little bit

590
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Speaker 4: in Justin Crawford, what's your kind of take on on

591
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Speaker 4: his season? He's gosh, every time I look up, he's

592
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Speaker 4: got two and three hits.

593
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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's been tremendous. I mean, I think at the

594
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Speaker 10: end of the day, like Justin, he does nothing any

595
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Speaker 10: more to surprise me. I think all he's ever done

596
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Speaker 10: is hit He gets over three hundred every year. He's

597
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Speaker 10: been tremendous. He's he's continues to get better every step

598
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Speaker 10: I've seen him, like when he's got some of the

599
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Speaker 10: best I think we talked about this, you know, before

600
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Speaker 10: the season, he got some of the best makeup in

601
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Speaker 10: the organization, and I'd say in like a minor league prospects, he.

602
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Speaker 6: Is some of the best makeup.

603
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Speaker 10: He's tough, he's brasilient, he's not scared, he's not out

604
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Speaker 10: there and been tremendous and improved in every aspect of

605
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Speaker 10: his game, and couldn't be more pleased with where he's

606
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Speaker 10: at right now.

607
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Speaker 5: So curious, what do you tell tell the people who, uh,

608
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Speaker 5: you know, he's got a lot of infield hits, had

609
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Speaker 5: a lot of soft contact for hits and that kind

610
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Speaker 5: of stuff.

611
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Speaker 7: What do you tell those people who are, you know,

612
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Speaker 7: the doubters about this guy?

613
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Speaker 5: Because I love the fact that he's got the kind

614
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Speaker 5: of bat the ball skills that are necessary for his

615
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Speaker 5: type of game and uh, talk about his overall uh

616
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Speaker 5: you know, bat action, back contact, that sort of stuff,

617
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Speaker 5: and what kind of player he can be in the

618
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Speaker 5: big leagues.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's obviously unique in a sense of like he

620
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Speaker 10: probably does hit more ground balls than a lot of

621
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Speaker 10: prospects or a lot of big leaguers as well.

622
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Speaker 6: But he's gotta he's got a knack to find the barrel.

623
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Speaker 10: He's got a knack to compete in the box, and

624
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Speaker 10: and and the pitchers, and you watch them like they

625
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Speaker 10: get him out one way one time, and the next

626
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Speaker 10: way is like he finds a way to to find

627
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Speaker 10: the barrel. I think at the end of the day,

628
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Speaker 10: like I do think over time that he will start

629
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Speaker 10: to understand how to hit the ball in the air

630
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Speaker 10: a little bit more. And he has power. He's got

631
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Speaker 10: plenty of power. But I think, and again, like one

632
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 10: thing I said earlier is like, as far as the game,

633
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Speaker 10: the game hasn't slowed him down yet. The game hasn't

634
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Speaker 10: told him he can't hit the ball on the ground

635
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 10: as much and get hits. And as a player, it's

636
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Speaker 10: hard for me to look him in the eye and say,

637
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Speaker 10: hey man, you need to do this. You know, he

638
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 10: got my hey man, I've been three twenty every year.

639
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Speaker 6: Why do I need to do this?

640
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Speaker 8: You know?

641
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Speaker 10: And I completely respect that and understand that, and I

642
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 10: do think over time he'll continue to learn how to

643
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Speaker 10: hit in the air, and you know, we may come

644
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Speaker 10: to a point in his development that, you know, the

645
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 10: game tells us he needs hit in the air little

646
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 10: bit more. But until that time, I think just needs

647
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 10: to be who Justin is and continue to perform and

648
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 10: be a be a huge asset to every team he's

649
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Speaker 10: been on to this point.

650
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Speaker 4: We were kind of thinking at several points this season

651
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Speaker 4: that we're going to see him in Philadelphia.

652
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Speaker 6: How close did it come? How close is it?

653
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Speaker 3: And you know, when do you see him arrived?

654
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean he's right there.

655
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Speaker 10: I mean he's he's you know, one of the guys

656
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Speaker 10: that you look at every time that there's you need it,

657
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Speaker 10: you have a need. I do think it's been very

658
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Speaker 10: close this year for him, and you know, it's it's

659
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Speaker 10: one negative, I guess you could say for somebody like

660
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 10: him playing on a team that as good as we have.

661
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 6: You know, you look at a lot of other teams

662
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 6: frankly probably up just because that's how it works.

663
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 10: But you know, David Press in the group's jobs to

664
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 10: put the best twenty six men on the field, and

665
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 10: you can make an argument he's into twenty six. But

666
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 10: right now it's just he's right there, close to it,

667
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 10: and we're excited about what he's doing.

668
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: Tell us about a center field play. I know he's

669
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 5: working through it. Is he a better center fielder, left fielder,

670
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 5: a quarner guy.

671
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 7: How do you feel about his overall defensive development as well?

672
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's doing good.

673
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 10: I mean, I think at end of the day, like

674
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 10: he's played probably an average center field, he's still understanding

675
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 10: learning angles and jumps and stuff like that like any

676
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 10: young player would. And you know, one role with Rojas

677
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 10: being down, one thing that he's had an opportunity to do.

678
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: A little bit more of even lately is play left field,

679
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 6: and he's done a.

680
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 10: Great job and playing left field, he's taken to it

681
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 10: pretty He's taken it quickly, which is.

682
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: A good thing.

683
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 10: I think, you know, just that kind we're talking about

684
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 10: with Miller. I think these guys play center field, they

685
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 10: play shortstop, and then you start living in the major

686
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 10: league club and that's not always how it works. So

687
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 10: I do like where he's at defensively, and I think

688
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 10: the corners he's looked good on and you know he's

689
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 10: he's continuing to get better. One thing that you know,

690
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 10: you put a challenge in front of Justin and he's

691
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 10: gonna take it and you know, do the best thing

692
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 10: he possibly can to continue to get better.

693
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 6: I could.

694
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sorry to talk.

695
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: With Edward on ty moving on.

696
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: I was just curious about the state of catching in

697
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: the organization.

698
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 6: What do you what do you think of it.

699
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: I've heard a little bit about this firebus guy, uh

700
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 4: In in a ball How do things shape up behind

701
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 4: the dish?

702
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think fair Boose is a young young player

703
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 10: that you know, has a lot of talent. You know,

704
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 10: he's a good good ways away right now, but has

705
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 10: gotten a lot better defensively, offensively, power, he has strength.

706
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 10: I do think he's continuing to get better. One guy

707
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 10: that I'd like to highlights Cayden Hediger. He's got a

708
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 10: very good year in High A. He's done a great

709
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 10: job catching, so we're very happy with where he's at.

710
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 10: But I mean, yeah, I think Tye was, you know,

711
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 10: our best catching prospect, and I think we have a

712
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 10: lot of other interesting guys probably nobody at his level,

713
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 10: but I do think, you know, as we go, we'll

714
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 10: see how these guys continue to develop. And catching is

715
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 10: tough to me, Like catching has one of been the

716
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 10: hardest things from my perspective to evaluate because I do

717
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 10: know that like a lot of these guys kind of

718
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 10: seemingly come out of nowhere more than other positions. So

719
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 10: we got to continue to like given everybody the time

720
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 10: and the development and see where see where.

721
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 6: They take it.

722
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: Jim and I were talking with Preston maybe a few

723
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: weeks after the draft, and we had gotten a lot

724
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: of questions about gauge Wood, and people automatically as soon

725
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: as he got drafted.

726
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: Said he's going to be up in September. This is

727
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: going to be one of those guys.

728
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: He has not thrown, he's not pitching the game yet

729
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: down there, can you what can you tell us about

730
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: where he's at in terms of is he going to

731
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: get into a game at.

732
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: Some point or like what what's going on with cage Wood?

733
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, so the plans for end of game, any game,

734
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 10: excuse me, he's been throwing bullpens. He's gonna throw live

735
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 10: to hitters this week and then we can see him

736
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 10: in some game action here coming up soon. We got

737
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 10: to see how the lives go and then we'll make

738
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 10: a decision. But yeah, we foresee him pitching in some

739
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 10: games this year. I don't know where in a sense

740
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 10: of like, I'm not going September the big leagues like

741
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 10: a lot of the fans are. But I think he'll start,

742
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 10: and he'll start in clear Water and we'll see how

743
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 10: it goes.

744
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 5: Are you going to start him or are you gonna

745
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 5: be stretching him out or I just I guess it's

746
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: sort of a spring training type development.

747
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: Correct.

748
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're gonna start him, but as you know, like

749
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 10: we're not gonna be able to stretch him out too

750
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 10: far because there's not a ton of season left, but

751
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 10: do want to get his innings up a little bit

752
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 10: higher heading into next year because he's as a.

753
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 6: Starter next year.

754
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 7: So I wanted to ask a question about a Ruin Escobar.

755
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 5: I know that he's a he actually is represented by

756
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 5: my brother, so I have a vested interest in uh

757
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 5: in him as a person, and I got a chance

758
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: to meet.

759
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 7: Him at the ballpark this past weekend.

760
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: I was just kind of curious how his development is

761
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 5: going and Uh, he seems like a great kid just

762
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 5: having met him for a short period.

763
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's awesome. He's great, he's he got a ton

764
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 10: of talent. He's very good player. More excited about him.

765
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 6: He's I talked to him the other day, and he's

766
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 6: had a he's.

767
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 10: Had a long year, and we want him, like from

768
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 10: an off season standpoint to not play baseball and the

769
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 10: player between winter ball and the Fall League. I mean,

770
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 10: he fits both those things with the opportunity to play them.

771
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 10: He was not real happy with me, but.

772
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 6: It was good.

773
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 8: I was.

774
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 10: I was actually like, you know, you walk out of there.

775
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 10: He was, he was annoyed, he was a little I

776
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 10: say a little bad because he wanted to go play,

777
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 10: and like, quite frankly, I walked out. I was like,

778
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 10: I was kind of good. They're like, well he was mad.

779
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 10: I'm like, well, great, a young kid wants to go play.

780
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 10: That's what you want from players. He's talented, he's very

781
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 10: very good. We're really excited about where he's at and

782
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 10: really excited about where he's going.

783
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 6: And you know, I couldn't be more pleased with what

784
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 6: he's done this year. At this point, is it more power?

785
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 7: Is it back to ball skills.

786
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I know, it seems like a pretty advanced

787
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: hitter from what I understand, but I was kind of

788
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 5: curious what his overall game is Like it's.

789
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 6: Kind of all of it.

790
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 10: Like I think he can hit and has power, good combination,

791
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 10: and then I think defensively he fits second He's played

792
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 10: second base mostly this year. I think third base is

793
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 10: an option. I think he fits more in that second

794
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 10: base third base mole. But he's a guy that you

795
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 10: look at. It's like top of the order bat that

796
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 10: can stay on the dirt. So it's a very you know,

797
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 10: coveted skill set and tool set that he has.

798
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: Luke, you talked about gage Wood. I mean it looks

799
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: like he's a real bulldog. Have you gotten to dive

800
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: into the makeup at all.

801
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I know our scouts loved him.

802
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 10: I love the competitiveness and the guy and you've got

803
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 10: to talk to him a couple times.

804
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 6: He definitely seems like a very nice competitive kid.

805
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 10: The one thing I do, like I always try to

806
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 10: stay a little bit weary of is like seeing these

807
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 10: guys early and watch him thro the bullpens. There's a

808
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 10: big difference between when that you know hitter steps in

809
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 10: the box. So I personally am trying not to draw

810
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 10: too many early conclusions. I know he's done everything we've

811
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 10: asked him to do. He's he's constantly like looking around

812
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 10: and figuring out way he wants to get better.

813
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 6: That's one thing.

814
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 10: I was like, Hey, this guy's like around everywhere, and

815
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 10: they're like, yeah, he just wants to be good. But like,

816
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 10: I'm looking forward to seeing him on the mound and

817
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 10: seeing him against some hitters this week.

818
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 4: And you don't want to draw early conclusions. That kind

819
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: of eliminates my next question. Anybody from the draft jump

820
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: out at you, But is there anything you can tell

821
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: us that somebody a newcomer.

822
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 10: That you like? Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm really excited

823
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 10: about this draft class, and I think most of them.

824
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 6: We took a lot of pictures, right, so they're obviously

825
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 6: throwing bullpens.

826
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 10: And then the one you know a couple of position

827
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 10: players that have already playing over in clear Water. We

828
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 10: get a young kid from New Jersey that's, you know,

829
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 10: getting his feet whitt over there that Matt Ferrara can run,

830
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 10: has some power and plays the dirt or plays on

831
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 10: the dirt. So we're excited about him getting some of bats.

832
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 10: And you know, we got a draft of a kid

833
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 10: named Logan Dawson, was a three sport athlete. He's hit

834
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 10: the complex right now from Jerseys well, and he's had

835
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 10: competitive bats over here.

836
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 6: Is looking good.

837
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 10: So we're excited about those young guys, and you know,

838
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 10: the pitching is probably seen more over the next week

839
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 10: or so and most of them next year.

840
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: Luke, when we had you on I think it was, Yeah,

841
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: I think it was last November. I asked you if

842
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: there's a player in the system, maybe under the radar guy.

843
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: Top thirty, maybe not top thirty, that not doesn't get

844
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: a lot of attention that you're like, I think more

845
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: people should be on this guy, and you said Auto Kemp.

846
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: And obviously Auto's tremendous story came up, made his big

847
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: league debut this year and it has contributed. So I'm

848
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: going to put you on the spot and ask you

849
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: who is right now maybe that under the radar guy

850
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: in the system that you're like, I'm telling you keep

851
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: an eye on this dude because he might be making

852
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: some noise in a year or two.

853
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go picture this time because I know

854
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 6: the pitcher's better. Now, I'm gonna go Ramon Marquez.

855
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 10: He's a young arm that we have that was in

856
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 10: the was in the making this year's start pitching the

857
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 10: FCL and pitching the Florida State League as well. We

858
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 10: shut him down just just the doctor's last start because

859
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 10: of innings. But he's a right man pitcher. I think

860
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 10: he's twenty years old. He's got a good he's got

861
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 10: good arm strength, like ninety four ninety five with a

862
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 10: really good change up and slider is the one that

863
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 10: you know, the pitch is developing. But I do see

864
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 10: him as a guy that you know, has a good

865
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 10: arm throw strikes a young guy with enough stuff. So

866
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 10: I think he could be a guy in a couple

867
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 10: of years that we're looking up and it's you know,

868
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 10: maybe a back end starter.

869
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 6: Look to the Philadelphia Phillies.

870
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 5: Oh nice, Okay, kind of cool, very nice. Hey, So

871
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: I wanted to do I did want to ask you

872
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: one question about about Johann Rojas. He's come down to

873
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 5: the minor leagues now and uh, it looks like he's

874
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 5: raking number one and number two.

875
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 6: Uh.

876
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: I understand that he had a little bit of a

877
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: like an adjustment as far as his overall hitting stuff,

878
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: how did that al what happened with with him and

879
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 5: what was the discussion about, you know, getting him into

880
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: a better hitting position.

881
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I.

882
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 10: Think with Johanna obviously, like you know, ultra talented player.

883
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 10: It's funny because you got guy like Adam Lynd, who's

884
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 10: the triple A hitting coach. Is He's seen a lot

885
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 10: of big league players over his time, and he hadn't

886
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 10: spent a ton of time around Rojas in the past.

887
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 10: And you know, when I talked to Hi about Ross,

888
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 10: he's like, Hey, this guy's really really talented. And a

889
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 10: lot of us already know that because we've seen him

890
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 10: play center field and he's like, this guy has power,

891
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 10: Like he's got a lot of ability to impact the

892
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 10: ball in batting practice and has the potential. So I

893
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 10: think with Rojas as a matter of like just helping

894
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 10: him get comfortable. Obviously, you get in the big leagues

895
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 10: and you know, a guy like himself, he played well

896
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 10: early up there, then he struggled a little bit and

897
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 10: he's trying to survive. But I think, you know, ultimately

898
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 10: making sure that he's getting it into his position is

899
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 10: the good positions that he needs to get to and

900
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 10: everything's connected. I think the biggest thing with him is,

901
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 10: you know, him understanding of how to get behind the baseball.

902
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 10: I think him getting behind the baseball with the barrel

903
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 10: versus him getting behind the baseball in his body. I

904
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 10: think he's has an understanding of what that, what that

905
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 10: feels like, and what that looks like. And I do

906
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 10: think that's something that he's focused on working on. Is

907
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 10: really i'd say, like, how to get connected and how

908
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 10: to get behind the ball. And with doing that, I

909
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 10: think the quality of contact will improve and he'll get you.

910
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 6: Know, some more balls in the air.

911
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 10: And you know, that's one thing I always struggle with

912
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 10: from a development perspective, is like, you know, hey, guys

913
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 10: hit too many ground balls or guys don't.

914
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 6: Hit the ball in the air enough. It's more how

915
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 6: do we get more efficiency with your swing?

916
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 10: And then I think the swing efficiency will take care

917
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 10: of we'll excuse me, will help the quality of contact versus, hey,

918
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 10: you just need to hit the ball in the air

919
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 10: of the pull side. It's no, you need to get

920
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 10: connected and behind the ball, which will help you get

921
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 10: the ball in the air.

922
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 6: And you know, he's had a great attitude. I saw,

923
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 6: I saw him down there last week.

924
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 10: He's working hard and you know, he's definitely I hadn't

925
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 10: got to spend a ton of time with him since

926
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 10: Double A a couple of years ago, and it was

927
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 10: cool to see, you know, the maturity of a couple

928
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 10: of years, what it's done for him. And I think,

929
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 10: you know, he's a young kid that's continuing to grow

930
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 10: as a person, and it was it was very obviously

931
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 10: you don't want to see a player come back from

932
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 10: the big leagues light, but you know, see how much

933
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 10: he's changed the person was encouraging to me and I

934
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 10: thought it.

935
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Speaker 6: Was pretty cool, Luca.

936
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Speaker 3: Last last one for me is kind of a two parter.

937
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 6: You know.

938
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Speaker 2: Griff McGarry had a couple of really nice starts or

939
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: of double digit strikeouts, low walks. And then another guy

940
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: who some people know about, Mavis Graves. He's been on

941
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: a heck of a run lately in Jersey Shore. I

942
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: was just looking up his numbers last seven starts zero

943
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: point five to six e ra A. So McGary first

944
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: of all, and then Graves.

945
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: Those those two guys and kind of what they've been

946
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: doing recently.

947
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean McGary obviously know its extremely talent. He's

948
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 10: got a really good fastball. When his stuff's in the zone,

949
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 10: it can beat anybody. He's done a great job of

950
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 10: getting his stuff in his zone more consistency, and you

951
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 10: know the results of showing. Then with Graves, you know

952
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 10: he started off he pitched down here in Florida State League.

953
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 10: He pitched great last year. He's got a really good slider,

954
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 10: and went up there this year and pitched very well

955
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 10: early excuse he pitched okay early and then the last

956
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 10: you know, he said, seven starts he's been and this

957
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 10: and you know it's it's it is cool to see,

958
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 10: especially a picture that is, you know, getting stronger as

959
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 10: the year goes. There's a lot to be said about that.

960
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 10: And you know, both those guys are excited to be

961
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 10: looking grave as a six y five left you with

962
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 10: a good slider that strikes a lot of guys out.

963
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 10: That usually ends well for us and for him. And

964
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 10: then with McGarry, I mean again, a guy with his

965
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 10: stuff and his ability to get the ball on his own.

966
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 10: Once he does that with as he's doing that with

967
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 10: more consistent you'd see the success. And we're ex out

968
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 10: about what both those guys are doing right now.

969
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: That's awesome. I did have one personal question.

970
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 5: I know this has been a sort of a new

971
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: position for you throughout the season. How how has the

972
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: year gone for you personally? How have you what are

973
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 5: some of the things that you've learned over time being

974
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 5: in that position, being the guy with the black hat

975
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 5: so to speak, and uh and and and just tell

976
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: me how how it's been for you being the director

977
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 5: of player development for the Philadelphia Phillies.

978
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd say, first and foremost like genuinely thankful for

979
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 10: the organization I get to work for, the people I

980
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 10: get to work for, because it makes everything easier. I mean,

981
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 10: from John to Dave Preston everybody on our staff. I

982
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 10: mean I think the better staff you have, the better

983
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 10: people around you to make the easier it makes your job.

984
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 6: And I do feel like, you know, we have a

985
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 6: very good staff from top to bottom.

986
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 10: And from a personal standpoint, I've learned a lot, which

987
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 10: you know is kind of what you anticipate your first

988
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 10: year and new job, and hopefully in every job you're

989
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 10: continuing to learn. But it's been it's been good. I mean,

990
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 10: I would say like there's a lot of things early.

991
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 10: I mean, I remember it's it's called the DRL, which

992
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 10: is one hundred how many players you're allowed, you know,

993
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 10: per the organization's one hundred and sixty five. But I mean,

994
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 10: I remember earlier We're in a meeting and they keep

995
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 10: saying DRL, and I'm like, what's the d RL.

996
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 6: What does that even mean?

997
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 10: They're like domestic reserve lists. So we've come a long

998
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 10: way since then, some of this stuff. But it's been good.

999
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 10: I've been you know a lot of things. I've been

1000
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 10: fortunate to this point in my career to have a

1001
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 10: lot of experiences in the game. But I would say,

1002
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 10: like this job's taught me a lot of things as

1003
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 10: far as you know, rosters and you know this guy up,

1004
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 10: this guy down, and you're managing you know, six teams,

1005
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 10: seven teams between the DSL up to Triple A.

1006
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 6: So I've learned a ton.

1007
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 10: I've I've been able to, you know, still be a

1008
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 10: part of the scouting side, which has been something I've

1009
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 10: you know, been fortunate to be able to do. So

1010
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 10: it's been a good year. It's been a it's been

1011
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 10: a very busy year. And then, like I told you

1012
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 10: guys before we got on Live. I moved down to Florida,

1013
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 10: so that was that was interesting. So it was It's

1014
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 10: been very busy, but it's been awesome. It's been fruitful.

1015
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 10: That major League team has been playing great. So I'm

1016
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 10: looking forward to continue this year strong from personal standpoint

1017
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 10: and looking forward to learning and continue to grow next

1018
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 10: year as we go, and you know, hope to improve

1019
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 10: personally and professionally with the as the organization grows.

1020
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, thanks a lot, man. We really appreciate you

1021
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: coming back on the show and hopefully uh.

1022
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 10: Hopeful the free time guest one day, I would we

1023
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 10: would actually be the honor to have you, right, yeah.

1024
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 6: Professionally, that's one of my goals this year, the third

1025
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 6: time guests. We can make that happen.

1026
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: We won't make that happen. We appreciate it. Luke, thanks

1027
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: so much, man, awesome, Thank you.

1028
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1029
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