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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a perfectionist.

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Speaker 1: When detail oriented, you're a perfectionista chic, you're detail oriented.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And I always say I got that her

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Speaker 2: mom like the devils and the details, like she you know,

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Speaker 2: when we had parties and we had it was always

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Speaker 2: those little things. And you know, I feel like people

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Speaker 2: would always say when I would you know, I just

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Speaker 2: grew up knowing that, and I would always think, like, gosh,

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Speaker 2: that is that's care that went into that. Like you

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Speaker 2: know when she like would wrap gifts and put little

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Speaker 2: you know, the glue gun and spend so much time it.

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Speaker 3: Would be on there. Do you remember how intricate those were?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Man, But it was it was all of the details

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Speaker 3: that when you receive that gift, wow, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: just getting the gift was amazing, right.

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Speaker 2: But it's yeah, and it was as much for the

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Speaker 2: person as it was for her because she enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: She had a passion for it. She would make it

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Speaker 2: very personal, like yeah, and I think that's super important.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now I just do stick on bows.

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Speaker 3: That's like I love a good stick on bow.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing. Like I'm crafty, just like her.

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Speaker 2: But I've rebelled against the bows well because I don't

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Speaker 2: think I could ever make them right.

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Speaker 3: I'm curmudgeon now, so I've shifted into a home place

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Speaker 3: where I used to do the stick on bows. And

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Speaker 3: then I'm like, it's so bad for the environment. Do

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Speaker 3: we really even need that on there? What about all

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Speaker 3: this wrapping paper? It goes in the landfill. So now

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna hand it over. No, but I wanted to,

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Speaker 3: like I reuse bags or sometimes a shopping bag, and

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Speaker 3: I'll just put tape on it. And is that? I mean?

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Speaker 3: I see fireworks?

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Speaker 2: VI simple tape? Boy bends going one? So do you

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Speaker 2: just put like straight up scotch tape? Do you like

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Speaker 2: folded and stick it underneath? Do you crease? I've seen

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Speaker 2: you wrap. You're good, You're good.

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Speaker 3: You used to put more care in the wrapping. I

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Speaker 3: still do the folds, but I do the straight up

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Speaker 3: scotch tape without the double sticky because we had we

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Speaker 3: kind of had to like hide the tape so you

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Speaker 3: didn't see the tape.

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Speaker 2: When you say we, who's we?

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Speaker 3: Like? We? You?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 2: And I like how we learned?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at Christmas time, the birthday time. I remember sitting

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Speaker 3: up and we had the weighted tape thing that we

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Speaker 3: would use.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, was like, oh well there was a wait

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Speaker 2: are we talking about? Like there was there was a

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Speaker 2: black one, the family one, or like you and I,

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Speaker 2: Oh there was?

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Speaker 3: We didn't have one in our room? Did we not?

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Speaker 2: In a room? I thought you were like fast forwarding

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Speaker 2: like in our twenties when we wrap gifts and do

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Speaker 3: No, no, I was talking about growing up. But did

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Speaker 3: you never use double sided tape? Yeah? Of course? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then when do we do you still use the

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Speaker 3: sided tape straight up scotch Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, one side? Yeah, yeah, okay exactly. We've graduated movies

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Speaker 2: that that was our thing.

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Speaker 3: So we watched so many movies, movies and over. I

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Speaker 3: was telling my girls this the other day. We used

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Speaker 3: to watch movies one hundred times, right VHS. We'd watched

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Speaker 3: the same movie thirty times?

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Speaker 2: We did? We did?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What about what was that movie? You made me

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Speaker 3: watch it? I loved it and I would sit with

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Speaker 3: you and watch it. Oh, I will give you a hint,

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Speaker 3: Jodie Foster, Yeah, how did you know? Do you know

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Speaker 3: which one.

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Speaker 2: We're related? No? Watch other's minds. Oh gosh, and Billy Billy,

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Speaker 2: yes his name, ye, I wanted to marry that guy.

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Speaker 2: Can we look up a few single Billy William mc McNamara,

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Speaker 2: Billy McNamara, right, do you remember the movie name Summer? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Some remember Summer Lovers?

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Speaker 3: Lovers? Was not that?

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Speaker 2: Nope, nope, nope, Oh my god, it was called remember

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Speaker 2: Secret Admire. Oh my god, that was a good one.

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Speaker 2: Oh I remember that one kind of ruined my life?

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Speaker 2: Was that?

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Speaker 3: Thomas Howe?

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Speaker 2: Correct, Laurie Laughlin, Yeah, that's right, Hilly Preston.

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Speaker 3: We have to move on because I don't even remember

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Speaker 3: the title. I don't even know the movie title. Stealing Home,

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 2: Stealing Home for the one that is one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite movies.

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Speaker 3: Made you guys over and over and over.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, because you were young then, and that.

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Speaker 3: Probably No, that was not traumatizing. The exercises and all

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Speaker 3: the horror films that you and mom used to watch

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Speaker 3: and then I would sit there, those were traumatizing. That

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Speaker 3: was not make him. I still remember the scene somewhere

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Speaker 3: in Egypt and the digging, and it was just the

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Speaker 3: yeah too, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh huh oh, yeah, that was Exorcist too, I

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Speaker 4: mean that was I'm so, I'm sorry because you were

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Speaker 4: young and you weren't into them.

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Speaker 2: Like, for instance, when mom first introduced me to horror films,

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Speaker 2: I believe I was four and it was in Palm

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Speaker 2: Springs and it was Return of the Body Snatchers, the

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Speaker 2: one with Donald Southwy And I can see myself sitting

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Speaker 2: right now in the chair on Dad's lap actually, which

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Speaker 2: is odd because he didn't like horror films and we

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Speaker 2: watched it and I was into it.

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Speaker 3: No, and you always had Yeah, so you got to

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Speaker 2: You know, we say read the room like you read

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Speaker 2: the room, but you never were into them. And yet

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Speaker 2: I forcibly, literally when you were young, forcibly made you

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Speaker 2: watch them because.

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Speaker 3: Did you hold me down?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Or I just wanted to be with you so I'd

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Speaker 3: sit there with you. Yeah, both are.

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Speaker 2: Just Oh what was I watching? We were watching once

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Speaker 2: something in the projection room, but not on the projection

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Speaker 2: the screen, not the big house, not the man or

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Speaker 2: our first house together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our first Yeah, because we would watch movies there.

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Speaker 3: That's where the TV was, and we'd pull up those

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Speaker 3: big chairs.

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Speaker 2: In a room that big.

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Speaker 3: We would watch watch the TV and it was.

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Speaker 2: Not small, but it wasn't big forty two inch like,

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Speaker 2: not ginormous compared Oh that was big back then.

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Speaker 3: That was probably big back then, yeah, because remember TV's

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because what about the one and the den?

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Speaker 2: That one's like, oh that was bigger, bigger. But we

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Speaker 2: never went in there.

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Speaker 3: We always would go in the projection room there.

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Speaker 2: And pull up chairs and sit in front. But there

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Speaker 2: was some movie I had on and you didn't want

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Speaker 2: to watch it. I don't know why I wind you

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Speaker 2: in there or something. When you left it, that's when

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Speaker 2: you walked through the office and I ran and tackle.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember it differently?

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Speaker 3: That was the same night day, That was the same day. No,

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Speaker 3: I didn't put two and two together, but I certainly

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Speaker 3: remember the time you tackled me. And I also remember it.

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Speaker 3: You probably had no one else to watch it with,

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Speaker 3: and so you needed But that's when we were closer

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Speaker 3: and you you would have no one else, so your

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Speaker 3: friends wouldn't be around, and then you'd be like, Jean,

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Speaker 3: come here, fandle come here, and you would call me

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Speaker 3: in or if you needed to go shopping, then I

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Speaker 3: would go showan pee did you ever know? Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: told you this. I love this story that I would

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Speaker 3: pray at night. So remember so remember my room. It

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Speaker 3: was green, right, and I had those shutters, those blinds,

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Speaker 3: the shutter blinds, and Jerry would take the dogs out

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Speaker 3: at a certain point in the light would go on.

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Speaker 3: But every time security guard slash like family friend. He

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Speaker 3: was so close with us.

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Speaker 2: That was the great thing. Like growing up, people would

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Speaker 2: be like, oh my gosh, you had stuff working for you.

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Speaker 2: They all we were close, became family, like we were

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Speaker 2: all a family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So he would take the dogs out, and I

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Speaker 3: remember I'd be sitting in my bed and that was

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Speaker 3: my talking to God moment. I'd be like, okay, okay God.

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Speaker 3: So after one of the days of either shopping or

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Speaker 3: movies or something, I would be like, please God, please

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Speaker 3: have Tory. W'd be nice to meet tomorrow. And then

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Speaker 3: it would be Monday and I would come down to breakfast.

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Speaker 3: You'd be like, don't look at me. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to watch this. I don't want to watch tom and Jerry,

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Speaker 3: I want the news get away, And I was like.

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Speaker 2: I was trying. I had current events in fifth grade.

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Speaker 2: I had to act like I knew what I was doing.

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Speaker 3: There were boys there, but in all fairness, I will

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Speaker 3: tell you this because I didn't. I was thinking about

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Speaker 3: this the other day. I also started thinking and just

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Speaker 3: doing what i'd do working with people for a living

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Speaker 3: and helping families and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, my brother an amazing

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Speaker 2: life coach. If you don't know, thank you. But but

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, if you know me and listen to this,

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Speaker 2: then you know him and you knew that.

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Speaker 3: But I was thinking about this, thank you. I was.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I tried to really

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Speaker 3: put myself in your position because at some point, and

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Speaker 3: especially through early years of therapy, I looked at it

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Speaker 3: as just from my point of view, but it was

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Speaker 3: like I even see Sage and Lotus right, like they're

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Speaker 3: two years apart and they get into things. I was like,

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Speaker 3: as an older sibling, there are probably many times where

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Speaker 3: I was irking you or I was annoying or right,

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Speaker 3: and so I mean, why why do you think? Why

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Speaker 3: do you think you.

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Speaker 2: Want my attention? Yes, I understand, but when you're five

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Speaker 2: and I'm like eleven, and I'm like trying to be

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Speaker 2: cool or hang out, you have zero tolerance, which goes

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Speaker 2: back to what you're saking.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: So what I know not when I see my kids

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Speaker 2: do it? I do because I remember I was like,

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Speaker 2: I see both sides now and I'm like, gosh, it

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Speaker 2: was super annoying to be like.

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Speaker 3: Stop, stop, stop, right, and then I wouldn't stop, and

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Speaker 3: then you would blow up and get annoyed so understandably.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then you cry, and then I get in trouble.

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Speaker 3: I cried a lot. Do you remember I cried a lot?

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Speaker 3: I was. I was a sensitive child, which paid off

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Speaker 3: for you. It paid off for me.

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Speaker 2: I did not cry a lot, and I'm still paying

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Speaker 2: for it now. Who pushing your all down?

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Speaker 3: You're a you're a pusher, but you're frying, right, Clarify that,

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Speaker 3: I'm a pusher of emotions. You push emotions down, but

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Speaker 3: you're working on that right right. Yes. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you had this, but I remember in in elementary school,

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Speaker 3: randomly I would I would see someone that I saw

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Speaker 3: every day, but all of a sudden it was like

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to go back to Gertrude now.

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Speaker 2: Mind how I asked, like, can you visualize the situation?

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Speaker 2: Now. I just mean like everyone had landlines then and

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Speaker 3: So I the actress in you, was like, I'm going

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Speaker 2: I haven't stepped up for myself. I am currently working

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, But I had Gertrude in my back pocket.

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Speaker 2: To be like, you know what. I know there's times

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Speaker 2: could never tell you because it would ruin the magic

440
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: of it.

441
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: Right, But that was sweet hello, true?

442
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: Oh, just that you know. And I think eventually you

443
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: were probably like what happened to Gertrude? And we were

444
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 2: all like, well, she's old, she probably died. I don't know.

445
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 3: And then I, yeah, you did not tell me that

446
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 3: she died. She just went away, magically, she just went away.

447
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: She went away.

448
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: She didn't you call you on your birth I don't

449
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 2: know it was it was?

450
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: It was Gertrude. So what was it like for you

451
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: growing because someone asked earlier Ruth Anne asked like, what

452
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: what was it like growing up? Where? Torri?

453
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 2: What are we still on in our childhood at times?

454
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: Okay? So when you started nine o two one? Oh

455
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: oh my god, I.

456
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 2: Still want to talk about our childhood? Did we have

457
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: to go there yet? No?

458
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: Who are you talking to? You? Who did you just

459
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: talk to? Who's Who's was? That like I talk out

460
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: that was That was a very theatrical moment. Who is it?

461
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 3: That is? Fourth? Great Oz, No, we don't have to

462
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: go there. You lead this, I'll follow. I'll follow your lead.

463
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, Okay. Well, I just wanted a few more

464
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: stories about our child because oh my gosh, there's so many,

465
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: and I think people from the outside perspective probably have

466
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: a very like that there's nothing relatable about our childhood

467
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: to their childhood. But we still had the sibling relationship

468
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: and we still had the like the fights, the fun times,

469
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: like the things that are.

470
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: All of it, all of it.

471
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: Remember the time I.

472
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: Tried to stab you. Do you remember what you tried

473
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: to stab me with? Uh duh?

474
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: A letter opener?

475
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:52,239
Speaker 3: The letter opener. And the strangest thing about you you

476
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 3: were a little bit Remember how I talked about how

477
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: Shannon was really strong. Yeah, you had some sort of

478
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: weird when you gott yeah, and like you were slight.

479
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: But when you got mad, you got crazy, you got

480
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: the crazy eyes, you got very dramatic, and you came

481
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: after me with the letter opener, and I thought I

482
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: feared from my life. And the one time that you.

483
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: Resolved it a timestamp, yere I was. I remember it was.

484
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: We were at our first house, not the Manor. Yeah,

485
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: we moved to the Manor when I was sixteen, so

486
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: maybe it was fourteen.

487
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen, I would say, was I do on to math?

488
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: You were home?

489
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: I was nine or eight and a half.

490
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: It was either seventh or eighth grade for me, and

491
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: I had just hated the phone but wanted to blend in.

492
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: And it was when like all of a sudden, I

493
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: just started at an all girls school and I had

494
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: this new set of friends. And every night you would

495
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: be on aging myself here, try line and party line

496
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: or now now I don't know. It's when you push

497
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: a button your ad al and you merge people. Anyway,

498
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: back at eight.

499
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: Or nine, I was on tryline me.

500
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: I was setting the scenes so you could like see right,

501
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: and he would like I'd be on with my friends,

502
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: and you know, it was a week night. It was

503
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: a long day at school and then done homework. And

504
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: I went to a really academic school where I totally

505
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 2: stood out because I was not academic. I was creative,

506
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 2: and it was a lot for me. Homework was it

507
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: was hard, and I had a tutor. But then we'd

508
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: had dinner, and after dinner, that was your moment, right,

509
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: I could go up, you know, showered right for bed

510
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: like Nanny had, you know, step the stage. Everybody get ready,

511
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: and I could get on the phone with my friends

512
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: for like an hour and everyone would be connecting. Everybody

513
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: be talking anyhow, girls chat, and it's just like and

514
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: and you would be at the door and I'd be

515
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: sitting at my desk on the phone and I could

516
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: facing the door was right next to me, to my left,

517
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: and yeah, he would always be at the door, and

518
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: he would always be listening. But he but he always

519
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: wanted me to know he was there, like I could.

520
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: I would not.

521
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 3: So sad. Oh my god, I'm so okay, Okay, so

522
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 3: go on with your story though, But I'd be.

523
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: Like, I'd like cover the phone with my hand, old

524
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: school phone, and I'd be like stop going like I

525
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: didn't want to, it was embarrassing, and I'd be like

526
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: then I'd put the phone down for a second. I

527
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: opened the door and he'd be like just listening there

528
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: and he'd be like and I'd be like, get away, leep,

529
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: you have to go back go to your room, like

530
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: and like stop and then it would get to the

531
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: point that I would.

532
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: Just go mad.

533
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: I would go bat shit fucking crazy. And at that

534
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: point that is when I threw hoping the tour grabbed

535
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: my crystal king Arthur like sword in the stone, pulled

536
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: it up my letter opener, and I ran out and

537
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: tried to stab him. Right.

538
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: Sorry, it was a release. It had to be done. No,

539
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: so yes, for examples, I wasn't going to stab him

540
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 3: literally though, the look in your eye, I get that look,

541
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: so that look and it was the same look that

542
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: that somehow, I don't remember what happened, but we were

543
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: in the office slash other room, and I said something

544
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: and you ran and lunged. I swear six feet in

545
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: the air, and you, guys.

546
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: I don't do cold activity. Even back then, I failed.

547
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: Jim ped me. Look, yeah I did, from like.

548
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: Ten feet away. I don't know. You were like a

549
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: flying amazon frog. I don't know what happened.

550
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have to admit, like, I'm pretty.

551
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: I don't see it now, But the eyes become beady,

552
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: the pupils become small, huh. They jiggle back and forest, yes,

553
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: to the point.

554
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: Where I can't I can feel everything's moving and my

555
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: whole body, like I'm looking at someone and everything's shaking

556
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: it behind my eyes.

557
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it go, you go haywire, like something malfunctions and

558
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: then you something takes over functions and that's it.

559
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: So you know when that happened the last time, I

560
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: don't well, I'm gonna tell you, Wow, you just connected

561
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: so many dots. Today is the final fight Dean and

562
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: I had before he put the Instagram posts saying we're

563
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: in a divorce, and then he went to treatment and

564
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: then you know that whole thing, the final fight when

565
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: I was like okay, okay, and he was, you know,

566
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: screaming and doing that, and I was like, I'm gonna

567
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: take it and take it. Everything's fine, walk away, walk

568
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: away away. And then he said one thing, because you

569
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: know what, it's always I hear it, I take it.

570
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm like no, no, no, And this is probably what happened.

571
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 2: You probably said one final thing that just went and

572
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: that's when I I gutturally was just like fuck yeah

573
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: and smash my baked potato across the kitchen with inhuman strength.

574
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: No one to this day, my kids were the only

575
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: ones that witnessed this. And Dean, I've ever seen a

576
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: baked potato fly.

577
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: Like that for the visual? Did you smash it first

578
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: or did you just take it and throw it?

579
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so how.

580
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: Did you crumple the potato and then throw it?

581
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: No?

582
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, it was you know, we like

583
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: a good baked potato. And this, I think, what are

584
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: the to me growing up? The three things that we

585
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: were very like There were three things that we really

586
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: loved that were made a certain way. And I'm blinking

587
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: on what I just said the other day, but a

588
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: baked potato because Mom would always make it a specific

589
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: way and really make it the right way, which I

590
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: have now passed on to my kids. They're always like, Mom,

591
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: if we're out and your.

592
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: Sandwiches like those sour dough sandwiches with the mayonnaise, and

593
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: everything was perfect and you'd eating.

594
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: To those mayonnaise and cheese and it seems so simple,

595
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: you guys, but it was magic magic, And people are like,

596
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, and you know what it might be

597
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: something like, oh, it's because your mom made it for you,

598
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: and maybe it was that, and maybe my kids when

599
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: I make a baked potatoes like my mom made it,

600
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't think it's she made the

601
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: best sandwich and the tuna sandwich.

602
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 3: I was telling someone this the other day, like the

603
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: best Do you remember the soggy tuna sandwich that somehow

604
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: sounds so gross but actually tastes so good with white

605
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: refrigerator right, the leftover tuna sandwich so good. It is

606
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: probably so disgusting for so many people, but yeah, it

607
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: was a thing. So so the baked potato is sacred

608
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: to you, and you took.

609
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: What was the third thing that that were the same

610
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: about baked potato tuna solad sandwich. I know you mentioned

611
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: the cheese and tomato, but there was something else. It

612
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: was something about blending things a certain way with a

613
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: certain amount of each little dash of something that made

614
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: it perfection. Do you remember it was?

615
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: I don't remember what it was.

616
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: Now now we just became. I took it from something

617
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: that was super relatable and now just made us very unrelatable.

618
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: Was it the steaks?

619
00:32:59,120 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 2: No?

620
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: No, no, no, oh oh I didn't. We got a

621
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: snort though, So that's good.

622
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: Having fun.

623
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: So relatable. So you remember the nights that we would

624
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: have caviar and it would be the bleanies and the

625
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: sour cream and the chopped bag, and.

626
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: You did have or toast point?

627
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: What did it entail? Uh? Bread, white bread or little

628
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: bleanies or toast points. I guess it was caviar, chopped

629
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: egg yolk, caviar, maybe a little bit of chopped onion

630
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: and lemon.

631
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: Chopped egg, egg yolks. Yeah, like the eggs separated from

632
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: the whites.

633
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: Because you had to have said the egg yolk.

634
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: We didn't say the whites.

635
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: No, we didn't do the whites. Did you put whites on?

636
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, I didn't. It was always offered though I.

637
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: Like them real. Oh I never did the whites. It

638
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: was always the crumbled yolk.

639
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, see, yeah, you did leave one thing off though,

640
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: what oh the crumb brush.

641
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: Didn't I say sour cream on the bread? Did I not?

642
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: Did I just leave off sour cream? I thought that

643
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: was the first thing I said. Replay, I don't. I

644
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: don't care the replace.

645
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: I don't care if I'm right, but I'm superfering competitive.

646
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: Oh that's gonna send me over that edge. We're gonna

647
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: let it mark my words. We're gonna listen back to this.

648
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: You did not say sour cream.

649
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: The relatability factor right now through the roof.

650
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: My kids won't let me put celery in the tuna.

651
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: Mom always put celery in the tuna. I mean, you know,

652
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: it really bothers me.

653
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: It bothers you crunch.

654
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: Can we talk about pickles?

655
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you a pickle person or no pickle? I

656
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 3: don't know this about you. What you love pickles?

657
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: My brother isn't.

658
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: No.

659
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: If I like pickles, I don't. I think you like

660
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: pick you have you have to go there? Huh Oh,

661
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: I thought you were making some sort of reference. Yeah,

662
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: you only like girkin pickles.

663
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: If I was making a sexual reference, it wouldn't be girkins.

664
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: I would like aka cornishans because they're very smart.

665
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm too used to you. I right, fine, So the gurkins,

666
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: for anyone who doesn't know, are very small, miniature.

667
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the fund see way isians.

668
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: Cornishan which I don't know. Who eats gurking I don't

669
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: even I don't see them served, I don't. I'm just

670
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: like a normal pickle, like a Deli pickle. Do you

671
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: eat Deli pickles or you only eat Cornischans?

672
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: Well, since you don't know this about me, I'm a

673
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: pickle advocate.

674
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: A pickle advocate I'm going to go with that advocate

675
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: for the pickles. Is this only on weekends or is

676
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: this like a weekly thing too, Oh it's a free time.

677
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: No, it is. I'm a pickle lover.

678
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: In fact, my stage okay what stage of pickle?

679
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: I just like any pickle. But but I do like

680
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: like you know, on like a cheeseboard, a graysboard, charcuterie board,

681
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: relatability board, you know, I like a good you know

682
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: they have a little the little ones, the little do

683
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: you know? Bow makes me do taste tests. We have

684
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: pickle taste tests. That's how much he loves chi.

685
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: I love taste tests. Those are the best. What else

686
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: do you do it with?

687
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: Oh, peeps on Easter?

688
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's a hard no for me. Well duh, you

689
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: know right, okay, you do taste tests of peeps because

690
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 3: there are certain peeps that taste different. Is in it all?

691
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: Just like colored marshmallow and different colors?

692
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: Okay, everyone's like, what.

693
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: Right they now there's now other flavors of peeps.

694
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: Whoa, they haven't been the same, like yellow, blue and

695
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: pink with one labor the basic marshmallow for like twenty years. Ps.

696
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. You know, I don't do the thing.

697
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: I see those and I'm like hard pass yep, yeah, yeah,

698
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: no way.

699
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: And I'm the person that's like, whoa, there's a new

700
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: peep and I get so excited that I do the

701
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: happy dance in the aisle, like if I'm a target

702
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: or like Vonts wherever I am.

703
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: Of new peeps? Do they taste differents they do? Do

704
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 3: you still do McDonald shamrock shakes every year?

705
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills Peeps shamrocks?

706
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: Do you do them together? Because it's around I mean,

707
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: do you have like shamrock Shake Month with peeps and

708
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: you just like bite the head off a peep and

709
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: drink some of the shamrock shake.

710
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: You're disgusting.

711
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 3: Oh that's the absolutely not.

712
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: But we did growing up, correct have shamrock shakes every

713
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 2: time they came in in March every year.

714
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: It was you loved him more than me. I liked it,

715
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: but you got so excited that I would just get

716
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: excited that you were excited, and I would go to McDonald.

717
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: So excited about food and drinks there. It's just like

718
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: a so do you by the love he is? He's

719
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: a total foodie.

720
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I just eat a certain way, a different

721
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: a different, a different way. But I still get excited

722
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 3: about food just the same.

723
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: So going back before you eat, before you ate a

724
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: different way and you ate everything. We do have similar

725
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: paletts though. That's one thing we have in common, like

726
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: we always appreciated flavor and got excited. And wait, I

727
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: don't remember did you like strawberry or chocolate milkshakes McDonald's

728
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: when we were little.

729
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: I didn't even like the milkshakes. I liked the right now, Oh,

730
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: Sundays Sundays with the.

731
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: Caramel and car you had caramel and peanuts, ice strawberry.

732
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: Your strawberry couldn't do the strawberry. But you also liked

733
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: the big Mac. I couldn't stand the big Mac. I

734
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: didn't like it.

735
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: Then you didn't, uh no, did you eat mc rib?

736
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: And then I switched it up once in a while.

737
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: I do flairs way back when ate mac rib when

738
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: we were kids, I ate MA.

739
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: I ate mc rib before it was a thing, before

740
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: it became a limited edition never coming.

741
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: Back last year. All right, So here's it was always.

742
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: On the menus, what did you eat.

743
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: Before the mick Rib? Because I think the mid rib

744
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: came out there wasn't always the nick rib like an appetizer.

745
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: She throw down a couple of cheeseburgers.

746
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: I was like, great, wait, let's go back.

747
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: What what did we start with?

748
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: I was like, well, first we go to the drink

749
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: fountains and we get mountain dew. Always mountain dew were just.

750
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: Like mountain dew a taco bell.

751
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: Why are you pretending you're not my sibling.

752
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't remember the soda thing and you.

753
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I tried to We're going to listen to this,

754
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: so please.

755
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: I first of all, I never liked mountain dew. I

756
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: always thought it was disgusting. I liked pepsi or coke,

757
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: and you liked seven up sometimes or sprite? Right?

758
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: Did I doctor pele win my entire life?

759
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: Okay, do you remember this? Tell me I'm gonna pull

760
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: this out. Do you know what I'm going to talk about? Aspen?

761
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: The Apple soda? And then there was one can sitting

762
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 3: on the shelf.

763
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: And I actually got super like, you said, we're gonna

764
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: say ass and I didn't know what was coming, and

765
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 2: I was like, I've worn off on him so much.

766
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 3: Shoot, okay, now do you remember the soda that they

767
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: had for a while that was apple soda, and then

768
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 3: they the one can.

769
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Right.

770
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: You saved it and it stayed on the shelf, and

771
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: every time i'd go in the playroom, I just see aspen.

772
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: We didn't have a heart or something on it. You

773
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: loved it.

774
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: It was green.

775
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was green. Oh you know what?

776
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: So oh boy, that is so it was a crisp

777
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: apple soda. I'm gonna say crisp you guys, because it

778
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: was refreshing and it wasn't and you might think like, oh,

779
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: apple soda, Like are we talking Martinelli's. We're not talking Martinelli's.

780
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't like an apple juice.

781
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: It was like, it wasn't a sparkling apple juice.

782
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: It was a soda, right, But it was just that

783
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: crisp flavor. It was clear, and there was something light

784
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: and refreshing about I'm salivating right now over our soda

785
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: that was like forty years ago.

786
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 3: I was like, there's something light and refreshing about that.

787
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: That artificial apple essence that they put in it.

788
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: It was artificial. It was our whole childhood, right, God,

789
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: it was so beautiful. The first Mexican food we ever

790
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: had was taco bell and We loved it so much

791
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: that to this day when we when I go with

792
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: everyone and have like authentic home cooked Mexican food and restaurants,

793
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: and it's just like I'm always like, do you have

794
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: ground beef right?

795
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 3: And they're like, you know like what.

796
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: They're like, No, we have you know, amazing wagoo and

797
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: we you know Kobe beef for like you know, no,

798
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: we have like brilliant like great meat that is.

799
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: You know what Mexican restaurant are you going to that

800
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: has wog? You say that again? Wag you? Wag you?

801
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 3: How do you say that?

802
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: What?

803
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: I'm just curious.

804
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: Because I thought that he just called me out my ship.

805
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: I totally just made that up right, I mean, douve

806
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: I've had it like when there's like a fusion restaurant.

807
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: Right right, that's true, that's true. That is true. One

808
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: one little taco with like a radish on a radish.

809
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 3: You're like, that's really tasty.

810
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: It's the one waggy bait.

811
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: Wait, so go on, what were you saying? Sorry? Sorry?

812
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So so you like taco bell strip I don't know, like,

813
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: are you happy now?

814
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: Yes?

815
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: But if it's in I'd be like I would always

816
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: say is the steak real? And they'd be like, what

817
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Like, growing up, we go to

818
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: like El Turedo or El Cholo or like what Sole Luna, Like, yeah, Mexically.

819
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Now I'm like I'm broadening our horizons here in La

820
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: but yeah, and they'd be like real and I was like,

821
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: oh no. And then you know, I'd be like, is

822
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: it like sliced up steak or do you perchance have

823
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: ground beef?

824
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 3: It was harder to find the ground beef.

825
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: You can't find the ground beef.

826
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: But that's what we were used to.

827
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: It's all I knew. Bell always had the grand beef.

828
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: And at our birthday parties, I remember. I remember this

829
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: because Mom didn't eat McDonald's, right, she didn't and really

830
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: didn't love that we loved McDonald's. However, she wanted us

831
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: to have what we wanted at our birthday parties with

832
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 3: our friends. So she let us have McDonald's or whatever

833
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: at the birthday parties because she knew that we loved

834
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: it so much.

835
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: This is true. And on the weekends on Saturday, that

836
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: was like a big.

837
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: Treat, you know, or like a family friend would take

838
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: us out, yeah, for somewhere they'd be like, where do

839
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: you want to go? Do you want to go to

840
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: Hamburger Hamlet? And we'd be like, can we go to

841
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: Taco Bell Dolores though, Oh Dolores's was so great.

842
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: Berger. So there was a drive in.

843
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: I never went to the drive in, but you Beverly.

844
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: And then they had one in Sana Manka, which I

845
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: believe is still there. It was there. I don't know

846
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: after COVID but I don't know. Oh that's right, you

847
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: don't live here anymore. But yeah, so our mom do

848
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: you know this part that? So there was this It

849
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: was like what you guys would think of, like a

850
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: not fifties diner. I guess what it was like a

851
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: coffee shop, a coffee shop.

852
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: Not even in and out. No, it was like a

853
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: like a real deal diner shop. But burgers were that like,

854
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: that was what they.

855
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: Were known for.

856
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: They were known for the JJ and the susi Q

857
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: French fries, which were the curly twisty fries, but not

858
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: the battered ones. They were just like curly twisty fries.

859
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is like curly fries and jack in them.

860
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: And you liked the drink, didn't you? I never got

861
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: it the cherry lime rickey or something right.

862
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: Yes, so much. By the way, the og burger there,

863
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: the JJ burger. You could liken to what the big map.

864
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: It was like their form of a back with crabby patty.

865
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 3: What's that? A krabby patty?

866
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: I can't. He hasn't watched TV anymore, you guys. His

867
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: kids don't watch TV. I cannot SpongeBob yo.

868
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm just this boring old guy who's into like philosophy

869
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: and meditation and I don't. I don't watch a lot

870
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: of TV.

871
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: I need one of you in my life because I

872
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: balance it everything. Oh no, I'm.

873
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 3: Sitting here in your bed.

874
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: That'd be weird and my brother being about like as

875
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: a partner in Oh.

876
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: I see, okay, so you're going with I see.

877
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: I found someone who blended my love of everything, your

878
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: love of everything came together.

879
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: Here's the question. Would you be attracted to a me,

880
00:46:53,360 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: not your brother, me, but not not not me as

881
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: your brother, but like someone who isn't a philosophy and

882
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: meditates and whatever? Or would you be like he's so boring?

883
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: He said, I don't know what's happening. I've always liked

884
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: to shock people. Did I just get shocked.

885
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: Nopeet I didn't let me see if I could phrase

886
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: it right, He's like, oh fuck, she's gonna see it

887
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: right now. I used to love to shock people, like

888
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: as you know, you know, there you go.

889
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: So yeh.

890
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: When we later in life, like became like best friends,

891
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: all of our friends. This is in our twenties because miraculously,

892
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he hit twenty one and I'm

893
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: still in my twenties. You know, I'm twenty six, and

894
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: it's like, wait, he's no longer the little brother that

895
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm like get away, or like, okay, I'm gonna be

896
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: the big sister. It was like even playing field. Yeah,

897
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: and we all of a sudden really truly became best friends,

898
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: which at times I would he was so much my

899
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: best friend. I would literally call him after like I

900
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: hooked up with a guy, which weren't that many but

901
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: I and I'm.

902
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god.

903
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: It was as if I was gossiping to a best girlfriend.

904
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: I was like okay, and you know me, I like

905
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: to give you a visual, so I'm like okay. Then

906
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: this happened next, and then this next.

907
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: You were so detail oriented with all of it, and

908
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: especially if there was a drinker or involved. You would

909
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 3: call me from Canada and different things, and you would

910
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: just tell me so many details.

911
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: Every sexual detail that happened. And my poor brother is

912
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: so kind. He would listen to me, and then I

913
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: would I would get a vibe over the phone or

914
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 2: in person, you or in person you always go you

915
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: give that look, and then I'd keep going, and.

916
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 3: Then I scaring him for life.

917
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's not what I was going to say.

918
00:48:59,360 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: That shock.

919
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: So we'd be out, we all be best friends, and

920
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: we'd be drinking, and I know that people would be like, Okay,

921
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: this is just gonna blow minds. Do you remember I

922
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: go over and kiss you on the lips?

923
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: No? I I that that I stuffed that deep down somewhere.

924
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: What like you know, when let me turn like dad

925
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: kissed us on the lips?

926
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 3: Do you mean like that like a high lover? Wah,

927
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 3: you better clarify that. No, that's no. He called everyone babe.

928
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: He called everyone lover, and it was an endearing term,

929
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: and he would give these kisses on the lips. He

930
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: just it was an endearing thing. It was just like

931
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: a loving quality.

932
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: Then actually maybe he felt like it was like I

933
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: don't know, in like such a super old school way.

934
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: There wasn't anything weird about it. It was very normal.

935
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: But you would come over and just kiss me on

936
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 3: the lips.

937
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: It was a little different than that, but it was

938
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: for shock. It's like when Okay, let me set the state,

939
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: like remember when you were like all out with their friends.

940
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna talk to you like you're my best girlfriend.

941
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: So except you were probably there and like girls would

942
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, look at the guys, like

943
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: the boys like you're all drinking and it's like ones

944
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: you don't know, and you're like, we're gonna shock them,

945
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: and they're gonna.

946
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: Be so like, oh my god.

947
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: So you would kiss your best girlfriends And yeah.

948
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: So is that this is gonna be some sort of

949
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: headline in the Spelling family to Tory kiss his brother

950
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: on the lips in front of everyone repeatedly, that was

951
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: just a shock. And I don't remember that I did.

952
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: And it was like a prank. And because we both

953
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: loved pranks, or.

954
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 3: Did right right, right, we did, we did it.

955
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: Ranks me when he arrived today, Actually.

956
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 3: Oh I did did? I sure did?

957
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: What'd you say?

958
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: I said? There was a cameraman down the street that

959
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: was asking if this house was doing only fans because

960
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: of a comment you made about only fans, to which

961
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 3: your hair went back and went what what were they?

962
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: And I said, no, I'm just kidding, and you were like,

963
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: why would you?

964
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: And I went to like mama bear mode and like

965
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: was like walking and pacing the windows. I'm like, where's

966
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: the where's the paparazzi? I love that you call it

967
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: a camera man. You're so old.

968
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 3: I'm so old. I love that it's like camera woman,

969
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: phone person, what do you what do you say? No?

970
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I wasn't even taking it to like I wasn't

971
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: sexualizing it or putting it towards like you know, how

972
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: do you refer to yourself camera woman, cameraman? I was

973
00:51:51,040 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: just like the paparazzi, pops. I feel like brothers and sisters,

974
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: like family. There's different paths in life that you have

975
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: moments that are connected, not connected, but always connected.

976
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 3: I think, if I'm understanding this correctly, you're you're referring

977
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: to the differences of how how how there's similarities. You

978
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: could see all the similarities that we've talked about and

979
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: how different we are, Like I live in Portland. I

980
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: left the entertainment business. I'm a life coach. I eat

981
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: all you know, like no refined sugar, gluten free, dairy free.

982
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: I work out daily. I my kids don't have a phone.

983
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: It's owned out like a minute ago.

984
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: So ran you, you know, totally did a one eighty.

985
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: Like put it this way between you and me, and

986
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: no judgment. No I don't mean this, but like I

987
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: go into the bathroom and I'm going to pee, and

988
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, I don't know if there's pea

989
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: still in there. I don't know if that was bo

990
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 3: or someone, and like there's some sort of toilet paper

991
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 3: with something next to and then like the trash can

992
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: is stuffed and there's McDonald's in there, and I'm.

993
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: Like, oka true, Like like my you just.

994
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: No I know, but I'm saying that that's no. Like

995
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: I am not anal in cleanliness, but there is a

996
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: massive difference between you.

997
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: Can After the Shatner episode that just came out recently,

998
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: I cannot believe you just said that. Say it again more.

999
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: Time, which part anally clean? Oh my gosh, you did

1000
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 3: not have me repeat that, and I felt I stepped

1001
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 3: right into it.

1002
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: Bingo, bitch, still got it? I still got it. You

1003
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: said you're not anally cleanliness.

1004
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm not anal about my cleanliness in terms of how

1005
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: I keep things at home, but it is definitely there's

1006
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: a semblance and there's an order.

1007
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: Why was the look in your eyes like like checkmate? Bitch?

1008
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm not trying to checkmate you.

1009
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 2: I don't know chess, just the game. I know, life chess.

1010
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: I I'm a good player, but but technically I don't know.

1011
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: But life chess. Oh, I'm real good like strategic. Is

1012
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: that what you mean?

1013
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm when I want to be. Yeah, not

1014
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: for myself, m for I think I'm really good in business,

1015
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 2: like knowing the right next move ending on your opponent. Okay,

1016
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: and I'm very good at being like Okay, I hear

1017
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 2: you and I four are Sunger Battleship. Oh we love

1018
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: those games. I love Sorry, he was a notorious cheater.

1019
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: You guys, you cheated games. I'm not even doing this

1020
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: with you. Call mom right now. You cheated in every

1021
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: game we played, and then if we got if we

1022
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: called you on it, you started hysterically crying. And you

1023
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: were a little cute and blonde and like with big

1024
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: blue eyes that were tearing up, and everyone be like, oh.

1025
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. I

1026
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 3: think that paid off because right now, and I am honest,

1027
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: I would never let you win.

1028
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: She was like, and I do that with my kids.

1029
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: I took note like.

1030
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: She was like, well, like you have to learn, you

1031
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: have to learn.

1032
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: No, And I fairly won.

1033
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: And it's like, right, But I think it paid off

1034
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: because now I am honest to a fault, like I

1035
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: cannot be dishonest. I feel like I can't like it.

1036
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: I have to be authentic. I have to be on it.

1037
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: It works me if I'm not, it pains me if

1038
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm not. So maybe I had to cheat a little

1039
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 3: when I was little to get to the honesty part.

1040
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 2: I can't believe you didn't remember the asthmam okay, okay, okay,

1041
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: So wait, going back to not like anally messy? Is

1042
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: what you said?

1043
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, don't. I don't even know why we're

1044
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 3: harping on this. All I said was.

1045
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: You walked into my bathroom and there is.

1046
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: Like a yeah there it was. It's a do Sam,

1047
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: it's a hot mess in there. I mean, I mean,

1048
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there there's a lot going on in there.

1049
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 3: Even asked if I was allowed to flush the toilet.

1050
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's why.

1051
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: That's why, because there was still pe in there, and

1052
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: I thought if it wasn't flush that maybe there was

1053
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: a problem because one of the other bathrooms, I was

1054
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: told by what if your kids not to flush the toilet.

1055
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 3: So I just said, maybe I'll use another bathroom.

1056
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.

1057
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: Which bathroom, I don't know. This was last time I

1058
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 3: was here a few weeks ago. They were like, oh, no, no, no,

1059
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: don't don't flush this toilet. There's a problem with it.

1060
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, we've had some some toilet issues.

1061
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: There's there's six of us in the house. There's a

1062
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: lot of shit. So anyway, or you were worried maybe

1063
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: maybe my water bill had been cut off, and like

1064
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: I just understood.

1065
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: No, I was more I just didn't want to overflow anything.

1066
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 3: And you know, and and there's McDonald's in a lot

1067
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: of the trash receptacles.

1068
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: Trash receptacles.

1069
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: I did, akay, there's.

1070
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: One trash can in the bathroom.

1071
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: You have multiple bathrooms?

1072
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: Oh, fair points, fair points? Yeah, well I did make

1073
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: a mad dash. Hey, do you remember like in my

1074
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: apartments specifically that we would have like always had parties

1075
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: at myartment, right, and I would decorate, we had some

1076
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: fun part.

1077
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: We had great ones brownies always and that oh the

1078
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 3: pot brownies actually awful.

1079
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: I love that story.

1080
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: Of the pot brownie and falls.

1081
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: Dad and mom because like our parents were like so supportive,

1082
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: like you wouldn't think like Aaron and Handy Spelling would come.

1083
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: Over to a Halloween. It was a Halloween Lloreen.

1084
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: Party at my second apartment, and it was just all

1085
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: of my friends. It was you and your friends.

1086
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: And it was like I was a sor in high

1087
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: school and you had made pot brownies and you had

1088
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: made them once before and I tried it and it

1089
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: was like I didn't feel that much. So this time

1090
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: you made it and you did some sort of concoction

1091
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: with like you cooked it in the butter first, and

1092
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: you made a lot of them. And by the time

1093
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: I got.

1094
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Chris cream trees, I was always always decorated, like I

1095
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: was obsessed and back then, like I have very chic style.

1096
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: I get that from my mom. But I also like

1097
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: loved a great like kind of Christmas vacation. Nope, like uh, christmasification,

1098
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: like the one where it's like a hut just over

1099
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: the top, cheesy like and you go that route. So

1100
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: here's the thing. Your friends know you, they know your taste.

1101
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: You either go one way and you make it super

1102
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 2: chic and you're like, ah hah, that's it's expectant. It's great,

1103
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: or you're like, I'm going to go the other direction.

1104
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: Everything that's kind of like, you know, it was like

1105
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: plastic lit up reindeers and multicolor ballbs, wasn't It was great?

1106
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: It was great, and we would have like fun treats

1107
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: and I always you know, yeah, I always had fun stuff.

1108
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: We would do white elephant parties anyway. It was all

1109
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: that stuff. But I think it's just so cool to

1110
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: think that there's this party and like, who would think

1111
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: that we would invite one invite our parents. That's how

1112
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: close we were with our parents. We were like, yeah,

1113
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: come to the party, and like Aaron Spelling, like coming.

1114
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: They had something to do, so they I thought they

1115
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: weren't going to come and they were going somewhere. Actually,

1116
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't even think you told me that you invited them.

1117
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: No, probably not.

1118
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: I think you just you were come by. No, no, no,

1119
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: you were getting ready for the party and doing things party,

1120
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: so you had just had them and you're like, oh,

1121
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 3: we tried one. You know they're not that strong, don't worry.

1122
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: So my friend Jordan and I and I remember Brian

1123
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: was there too, but Jordan and I were like, okay,

1124
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: we all ate one, and then I wasn't feeling anything

1125
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: after twenty minutes.

1126
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: Listen, I didn't know.

1127
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: They said it wasn't strong. I didn't, so I ate

1128
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: another one. And then all I know is about fifteen

1129
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: minutes later, after I'm too in, you came to me

1130
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: when you were like, holy shit, they're so strong. They're

1131
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: five times stronger than they were last time. And I panicked.

1132
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: And I don't know if any I mean, it's been

1133
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: a long time since I have felt anything different than

1134
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: how I feel now, but I remember from you saying

1135
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: that it somehow flipped something in my brain. And then

1136
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'm starting to feel something. And

1137
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: then I looked in your eyes and you were like

1138
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: I was scared. Holy shit. And then all of a

1139
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: sudden everything morphed and changed, and I this ceiling felt

1140
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: like it was coming down on me, and you I

1141
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: got this wrong.

1142
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: Run what is I didn't know. I was like an

1143
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: amateur at the time, Like I didn't know about like

1144
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: weed now people call it, but back then it was

1145
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: like pot. So we hit pot brownies and it wasn't

1146
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: And I remember like someone on set had told me

1147
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: about it, and I was like, oh, that sounds fun,

1148
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: and I didn't know. But basically I didn't know that

1149
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: if you just like I used to be like, okay,

1150
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: you crush it up and throw it in and it

1151
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: tasted like crap, like because you just had like leafy

1152
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: things crushed. It was like a regano in there. But yeah,

1153
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: if you do it with the butter thing, it really

1154
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: makes it strong. I didn't know, or I would have

1155
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 2: told him because this is when we were like I

1156
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: wasn't like trying to like fuck with my younger brother.

1157
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this is good and but yeah,

1158
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: but I remember somebody came over to me and was

1159
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: like whoa.

1160
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 3: Right, So then you panicked.

1161
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: So then it was a Domino th book across the

1162
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: room and I see him and we lock eyes and

1163
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm like.

1164
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: And then yeah, you were like, don't eat more than one.

1165
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: They're so strong, And then I panicked and I and

1166
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 3: then Jordan, we were like, we just ate two and

1167
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden I felt it and then

1168
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 3: I start laughing. Jordan starts laughing, Brian starts laughing, and

1169
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 3: then I look at the vestibule area and mom and

1170
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: Dad walk in and thirty for one second.

1171
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: Sorry at the time, this is uh the infamous Wilshire

1172
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: the Wilshare, which had four condos on each floor. So

1173
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: if you had a condot, an elevator that came from

1174
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: the bottom and it went right up into what we

1175
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: called the vestibule.

1176
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: And Charlie Sheen was living Farrah Faucet right everybody. So

1177
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: they walk in, they walk in right.

1178
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: As I tell you. And for anyone that's ever dabbled

1179
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: with weed, like you, someone can tak you in a second,

1180
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: like you can be smoking some or whatever ingesting it.

1181
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 2: And if you look at your bestie and this is

1182
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: you know, we were in our twenties and you look

1183
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: at your bestie.

1184
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, do you feel seventeen something like that.

1185
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that, but yeah, look at me trying

1186
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be pc.

1187
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, but fine, yeah, I mean.

1188
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: He was when he was four, yeah, so right, right, right, so,

1189
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: but you know that moment, like back then, like you

1190
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: would have that moment where you could be having like

1191
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: you we were always paranoid, like we grew up paranoid.

1192
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: So I'd be like, okay, I feel this is this normal?

1193
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 2: Is this normal? And everyone would be like, yeah, yeah,

1194
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: it's great. Yeah, you know you're you're fine. But there's

1195
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: the alternative. If someone is quote unquote high and they're

1196
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: having what you would quote unquote called a good trip,

1197
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: like you can take them if you're like, oh, this

1198
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: is super strong, I'm not okay, and then all of

1199
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's like a domino effect and the person

1200
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: I don't even know how this starts in someone's body,

1201
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: but the person next to you, they can go from

1202
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: feeling fine to be like, oh shit, I'm not okay,

1203
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: which is exactly what I did to you.

1204
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: Yep. And then mom and dad walk in, and then

1205
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: I was trying to talk to damn that moment. But

1206
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: the hardest part wasn't I don't remember anything that he

1207
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: was saying, but for some reason, and I lived with him,

1208
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: but for some reason, he was talking to me for

1209
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 3: about what seemed like an hour, and he was really

1210
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 3: talking to me and I was trying so hard to

1211
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 3: focus on what he was saying, and literally I heard

1212
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: this educat and I was.

1213
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: Charlie Brown teacher.

1214
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: I was freaking out. I was literally talking myself out

1215
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 3: of a panic attack.

1216
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: Act you did so well. I'm so sorry. I didn't

1217
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: mean to do that too.

1218
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. But some of my best memories, just

1219
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 3: to say this really quick, was your lasagnas and the

1220
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: dinner parties. Not the big parties. Those were fun where

1221
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 3: you had like twenty people over, but it was yeah,

1222
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: but it was it was more of like, we're having

1223
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 3: eight people over and we would get a bottle of wine, right.

1224
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: And I remember at one point specifically, you had gone

1225
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: through a breakup and I would come over to your

1226
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: apartment and you I was reading these spiritual books and

1227
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 3: then you were like, I'm going to sit down with

1228
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: a good book, and you were started reading a couple

1229
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: of the books that I was reading, and you had

1230
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: and you just had gotten these little reading glasses, and

1231
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: I remember you on the couch and I was trying

1232
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: to convince you it was because our dad didn't fly right,

1233
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 3: and we always heard classmates go to Hawaii, so and

1234
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: I think you went once with nine oh two one

1235
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: oho before and I was like, I'm going to Hawaii

1236
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: and at first you I asked you to go, and

1237
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: you were like, no, I'm not, you know, I'm there's

1238
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 3: something about the relationship. And then you broke up. I

1239
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 3: don't remember who you were with, but you had broken

1240
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: up in your relationship, and and you were home reading

1241
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 3: a book drinking wine and I was like, Tea, I'm

1242
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: going to Maui in a few weeks. Why don't you

1243
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: come with me? And you said, you know what, Yes,

1244
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come. And for me, I was like this

1245
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: is amazing. And we went to Maui together. That was

1246
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: our first time, right, and that was like our special place.

1247
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: That became I mean, we became traveling companions for many

1248
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: many years, even in relationships. Yeah, you'd be with a girlfriend,

1249
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: I'd be with a boyfriend and the four of us

1250
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 2: would go and it's like, wait, are you going with

1251
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: your best friend? And no, I'm going with my brother

1252
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 2: and his girlfriend, like you know, like yeah, we always

1253
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: travel together.

1254
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 3: So those times I love traveling with you, Like we

1255
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: made great travel partners, and those times of just like

1256
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 3: the simplest, such good memories of like the food, the cooking,

1257
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: the home, the reading, the talking.

1258
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:23,479
Speaker 2: Shit, I'm human.

1259
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: Look, oh my god, I got tears.

1260
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is weird.

1261
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: Whoa well?

1262
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: You told me the other day when if that happens

1263
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 2: not to say like stop it, let it go. I can't.

1264
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: I won't repress it. You talk yourself out of it.

1265
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: It's not waterproof MASc here. No. Look, I'm a good,

1266
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: super uncomfortable.

1267
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: It was a simpler time.

1268
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: Really, miss ye Well. I wanted to say traveling with you,

1269
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: but it's like that's like there's so it was just

1270
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: as hard, like you moved to Portland, like that was

1271
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: like that changed my life and your life, your life

1272
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: for the better.

1273
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: It's it's hard. It's hard not being here. It's hard, right,

1274
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 3: I mean to be honest, watch it. It's always weird

1275
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 3: for me looking at your life because sometimes I look

1276
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 3: at it through other filters, like I know you as

1277
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: you you're my sister. But you know, I get a

1278
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: lot of people writing me, or there's headlines or there's

1279
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: different things.

1280
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: Remember one time you were like sorry, cut you off.

1281
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: I was filming in Malta and you had seen I mean,

1282
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: how many times did people put headlines up about Dina

1283
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: Gang a divorce. It was like since we married and

1284
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: you texted me and you were like, ye, is it true?

1285
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 2: Like like is something happening. I mean, obviously I would

1286
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: tell you before I did it, but like, and I

1287
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: was like, no, there's writing another thing. But you were like, Okay,

1288
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: I figure. I remember saying this. I figured, but I

1289
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 2: just don't know because we don't. I live in LA

1290
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: you live in Portland. You're raising your family. I'm raising

1291
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: my family.

1292
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 3: Right.

1293
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: I'm a sucky communicator. I suck allow me.

1294
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: To you're you're allow me to have it. Okay, Okay,

1295
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 3: I won't fight you on that. You are not the

1296
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 3: best at communication or staying in touch.

1297
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 2: Yep, my own brother like show yep.

1298
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 3: But I'm here. I haven't gone anywhere. You never do,

1299
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 3: even though I'm in Portland. You know I'm here. I

1300
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 3: will hold it down. I've got you. I always have

1301
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: always looked up to you. Always was the younger brother

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01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 3: and always will be, even at times if I become

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01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 3: the older brother.

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01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: I call them the older brother all the time because

1305
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: you're really wise, You're really it's beautiful. It's everything I

1306
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: hoped you would becoming more. And yeah, you think you'll

1307
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: ever move back to La.

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01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 3: You know. I asked myself that because I never want

1309
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: to say never, because I know how You're like, I'm

1310
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 3: never in the you know, universe is like here you go.

1311
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 2: So you should say never.

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: I for California, I can't see it. I could see

1313
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: myself living in California, maybe northern California. I don't look,

1314
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 3: Mom's here, you're here, the kids are here. That part

1315
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 3: is hard. But I don't miss La. I like coming

1316
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: to visit. I'll do what I need to do here,

1317
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 3: I'll work, but but I don't miss living here. I

1318
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 3: don't miss the traffic. It's hot as ship here. It

1319
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 3: really is right, And to be honest, I really love

1320
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: being in more nature. I mean, Ruth Anne and I

1321
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,879
Speaker 3: were talking about this before we started recording, like having trees,

1322
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: having water. I mean, you have that here, right, But

1323
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: there's there's something more lush about Portland, and it's just

1324
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 3: it feels. Yeah. I had to move to Portland to

1325
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 3: really find myself, and I felt because we grew up

1326
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 3: in Hollywood in the business, there was so much association.

1327
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: I just didn't know myself and even though I went

1328
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: into acting right, I always rebelled you wanted to be

1329
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 3: the actress from like jump from day one right five

1330
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: years old on. You knew what you wanted to do.

1331
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: I didn't when I got home from work re enact

1332
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: hr puff and stuff?

1333
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 3: Did you really right? So you knew with me? Yeah?

1334
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: You you had it and you wanted to be in

1335
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: the spotlight. I didn't. I was shy. I didn't want

1336
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: to but I was shy though I didn't. I didn't

1337
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: want to always be in front. I may have been

1338
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: more like, may have been charismatic, but I but I

1339
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: was shy. I didn't want the limelight. I didn't want

1340
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 3: to be in front of the camera because remember when

1341
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: Dad had me, do you.

1342
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: Want that to be in front of the camera.

1343
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: Yes, you wanted to be an actress. You did plays

1344
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 3: all through school.

1345
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: That's interesting, Like you said you wanted to be in

1346
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: the spotlight, and I guess it triggered some response in me,

1347
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: like that was.

1348
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 3: A negative thing.

1349
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: Huh, isn't that weird?

1350
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1351
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 3: I didn't mean it negative.

1352
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: I know you never would, but if for some reason,

1353
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I just want it to make

1354
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 2: people happy. I wanted to entertain people, and I did

1355
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: do a lot of plays. Yeah, which I had no

1356
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: I need to do with the spotlight, like I was

1357
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: always in plays. But I also loved getting that response,

1358
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: Like I loved that I made people laugh, you know,

1359
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 2: like in high school, remember Roger speed Longer.

1360
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but what Roger.

1361
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 2: And Roger and Ethel speed Longer My best friend down

1362
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: in high school. She and I had the same birthday.

1363
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 2: We had gone to school since like kindergarten and went

1364
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: all the way through high school together, and we used

1365
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: at lunchtime put on these characters and become these nerds,

1366
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 2: and we were white team and everyone and I was Roger.

1367
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: I was I the guy.

1368
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 5: But now we know, right, you were always super side there,

1369
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 5: but uh yeah, and she'd be Ethel and I put

1370
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 5: on a bow tie and I put on glasses and.

1371
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: I snort and and it was actually that's where I

1372
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: went on to do Violet bicker Staff and Stay by

1373
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: the Bells. And when I went into audition for that role,

1374
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: I was like, I've been doing this role for years

1375
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: for all my friends behind the scenes, So playing the

1376
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 2: nerd and like snorting like that was it. But I

1377
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 2: just seeing my friend's faces because they'd all be like,

1378
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: you know, girls like drama like boy problems and dah

1379
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: da dah and it was, you know, just high school kids.

1380
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: But during lunch I really enjoyed entertaining them and making

1381
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: them smile and it detracted from whatever the negative focus

1382
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: was on or the drama that was happening.

1383
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so that was some of the context as to

1384
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: why you want you went into acting, right.

1385
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: I was so shy.

1386
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was too. You were I guess. I guess

1387
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 3: you worshiped. But there was something in you that I

1388
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 3: feel I lacked, at least for a long time. What

1389
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 3: would you would work through it? I just avoided it.

1390
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 3: There are a lot of things that you avoid. Interesting, right, Yeah,

1391
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: there are a lot of things that you avoid. But

1392
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 3: for some reason, when it comes to pulling it out

1393
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 3: for work or entertainment or whatever it is that you're doing,

1394
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 3: you'll go, like terrify to speak on stage, and yet

1395
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 3: you'll you'll do it. You'll go and you'll do it.

1396
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 3: I remember I used to. I used to get offered

1397
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 3: to do speaking gigs early on in my life coaching career,

1398
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, I can't do it, sorry, no,

1399
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 3: thank you. I would just literally turn it down because

1400
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 3: I was terrified. So there's something that you do have

1401
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 3: where you're like, I'm I'm fearful of it, but I

1402
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: will go through it.

1403
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 2: And you apply that to my life, not just business.

1404
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 3: Of course, if you could do it in one area,

1405
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 3: you can do it in other areas. I think you

1406
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 3: just tell yourself I'm bad at communication or i'm back

1407
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: because you have known yourself as that for a while.

1408
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean like if your child, one of

1409
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 3: your children, was like, I'm bad at math, I'm bad

1410
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 3: at this. Would you go, okay, well, you're just doomed

1411
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: for the rest of your life to be only that,

1412
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 3: or would you say, oh, yeah, right

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01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what were we talking about.