WEBVTT - Episode 202 w/ Royce da 5'9" & Mr. Porter 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.079 And his Drink Chess Motherfucking podcast make He's a legendary 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.599 queen's rapper. He's Segre is your boy in o R. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.159 He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d j e 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.639 f N. Together they drinking up with some of the 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.920 biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. And your 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.320 number one source for drunk fast, drin Chess motherfucking every 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.800 day is New Year's Ease. That his time for drink Champs, 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:46.839 trick up for the hay Hank big blunt game. This 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.839 is the killer in the what up is d J 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.840 e f And this is drink Chess motherfucker yahyalla makes 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:59.560 un And right now the brother that we got in 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.400 the build him with us top tier when I say 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.560 elite lyricists, when I say top five, when I say 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.840 go I was the goat ring on. I was anticipating 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:13.360 the goat ring um. But when it comes to lyricists, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.200 when it comes to you know, staying relevant, you know, 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.480 sending the test of time, not only uh looking young, 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.000 feeling young and acting young and out here looking good. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.360 You know what I'm saying, been through different errors, still 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.720 the tests of top still here and he's on the 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:34.080 illest press run I've ever seen his whole career. Like 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.800 a lot of people say that Alan and he one 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.640 is uh cheap. They are showing they asked with his 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.959 projects today because they got him everywhere, I mean, and 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.240 with the coronavirus. I do it and stop. This guy's everywhere, 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.000 I mean, from the morning shows or wherever. And I 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.040 really appreciate I really seeing the reinvention. I really really 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:58.440 see the relevance of what's going on right now. If 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:06.480 you don't know what my voice the this is a 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.680 phenomenal running I'm seeing you on like, you know, besides 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:14.360 the album being classic, just you know great, I'm just 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.480 you know, as a media guy, had to you know, 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.000 go on and click and see where you was at everywhere. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.000 This is a great one. I think this is like, 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.160 this is probably one of the biggest since I've seen 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:29.000 the years. Uh, how do you feel about that? I 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.240 feel good about it. Feel good about it. I Mean. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.520 The important thing for me, man, it's just to make 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.680 sure that I um, I try to stay as in 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.600 control of the narrative as possible, you know, I just 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.480 want to make sure that I drive the point home 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.120 every opportunity that I get I'll make sure that I 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.440 let everybody know that it's honor and the privilege to 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.959 be here. And you know, just set good examples, set 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.520 good examples, be positive, and and just hit as many 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.799 as many outlets as possible. You know what I mean. 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:01.760 I want to show. I want to show the young 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.080 is that it's cool to just be yourself. It's cool 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.840 to do it without the antics. It's cool to just 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.320 make it about the reps. You know what I'm saying, 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.919 Like that l A Leaka's freestyle, I'm not going bue 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.560 that was so disrespectful than man. It was just like 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.480 it was like I felt like he was a wrestler. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.720 It was just you was just like I feel like 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.160 he was the snake and Buddhist, the barber's beefcake at 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.760 the same time. It just was just like you just 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:28.600 was showing these young boys, this is how you rap. 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.480 Like he was just it wasn't let me just tell 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:36.120 you something. It wasn't much so of what you were 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.800 saying and how you were saying, And it was the 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.360 comfortable you understand what I'm saying, Like so many people 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.480 when they comfortable, it was like I can tell you 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.080 it's just you had to your what is the call 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.760 of sports jackets? Jacket on you? It's just like like, 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.480 like does it come that easy for you after all 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.800 these years? It's hard memorize, That's what I'm saying. It's 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.120 hard to memorize. I mean it took it took a 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.800 long time. Some of it I wrote on the plane. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.080 You know where l A leakers they want you to 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.240 do like a few takes so they can get different angles. Yeah, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.840 I ain't going up. There's my friends, but I ain't 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.520 trying to give eighty nine balls. But wrote some of 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.280 it on the plane, some of it. Some of it 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.000 was just bars I had in my phone and I 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.640 just kind of pieced it together and just kept listening 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.640 to it over and over and over again. Always have 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.920 a problem. I always have a problem memor You're killing 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.159 me with it. And I thought it was up. But 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.880 I'll just I'll just up for it, man, you know 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.039 what you just the last time, the last time I 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.360 did something, I did flex, you know, shout out the flex. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.080 And I hadn't done anything since then. So I just 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.279 really wanted to like, do you be tiring people like 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.919 asked you to because now, especially after that someone everyone 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.400 is gonna want to respect that for their show like everyone. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:58.479 I don't. Man, I feel bad saying no manically where 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.680 it's like especially when it's like sway, you know what 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.719 I'm saying, like cosmic card, You know what I mean. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:09.520 Like I feel bad saying no man. But it's like 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.839 if I can't, if it can't be like at least 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.680 close to a moment. Man, I don't want to put 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.080 myself in that position because I know, you know what 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.800 I'm capable of doing, and I hate to just do 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.720 some half has ship for somebody. You know that I'm 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.440 not prepared to do. And I'm always like prepping for 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.159 so many different things, so it's hard to just trust me. Man. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.680 I did the l A Leakers thing. I took it 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.440 hit in another area. Probably hit you because because not 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.960 because I did. Um, I did a show. I did 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:41.479 a show in Detroit. It's like, um, the Allegory show, 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.240 and I went up there. I forgot that I forgot 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:48.280 to wrap into a couple of songs up there because 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.839 he was so much focused on Lea. I just didn't happen. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:55.080 I just didn't have rehearsal days. Something that you made 0:05:55.120 --> 0:06:00.360 up like, um, it was hashtags on Instagram. You made up. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.360 I don't know if you're aware of this is every 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.479 time a girl like I just seen Lorie Harvey, there 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:09.200 was like, Hi Lorie Harvey, and take dinks back to 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:14.120 Hi Rihanna. Let's let's take us through that course because 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.479 why why did you feel like you had to say 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:21.080 hi Yana fifteen thousand times? Um? And it was and 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.800 it's for some how it worked. Damn. I can't even 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.919 remember what I was thinking at the time when I 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.359 wrote it, when I wrote I wrote that, though I 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:32.800 wrote that for ya wrote that. I wrote that for 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.479 that okay, and you had the whole award saying and 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.200 then now it's a half tack. Yeah. I just wanted 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:40.840 it to be catchy, you know, I'm just wanting I 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.360 was just trying to come up with something catchy, you know, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.320 the same way you know, did we write songs, you 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.080 know what I mean? Like, I just wanted to, um 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.760 write something that I felt like it was for that 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.680 moment that was that was plausible for that moment, you 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.960 know what I mean. And Brianna was hot at the time. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.760 She's still yeah, I mean, it's just you know, I 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.080 just was that your shot at her, like you thought 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:04.960 you thought she was gonna like d MU or something. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.320 I don't know if I was sticking at that's what. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.880 I don't know if I was giving myself. But I 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.760 mean not just um. I think I was just expressing 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.520 my love to her, all right, No, that was that's 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.680 that's lover her. I mean I was just speaking for 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.640 us all, you know. And now everyone uses that that 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.280 thing every time, like like I guess that's like flirting words, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.960 like they're saying Hi, Lorie Harvey or they'll say hi, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.080 you know Amber Rows or whatever. But it was down 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.040 to you ever respond to that at all? She said 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:46.120 hi back. Oh that's all. That was good enough in 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.960 my mind even another day. Because so now the big 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.960 thing that's happening right now. You went to the breakfast club. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.760 You were I believe you spoke on T Grizzy and 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.360 then T. Grizzly responded back, and I gotta be honest. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.720 When I heard you speak of on the breakfast club, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.000 I wanted me to person agree with you. When I 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.920 heard he Grizzly said, I didn't understand his point. Then 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:10.600 I listened to it the third time, listened to you 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.920 a third time, listen to him a third time, and 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.160 I pretty much was a split decision because in order 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.880 for you to get your point, you had to be 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.040 in this game for ten fifteen years. So I understand 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.080 how he couldn't relate that. But then I was just 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.800 standing him as well for him saying, you know which 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.760 I don't know, and I won't disapprove by anything that, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.120 but he's saying I got one foot in the and 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.360 then so I don't believe you addressed that yet. So 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.320 I would love to hear and I heard you had 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.319 a conversation with him. Yeah, of course, of course. Um, 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.600 I understand where you're coming from. Yeah, I understand where 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:48.360 you're coming from. Um I think, Um, I didn't go 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.080 in death about me and Marshall's conversation, so I can 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.840 so I can understand how it can be misconstrued. It's 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:03.400 this simple though, Okay, Um number one, I'm not like 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.280 this guy who's like behind closed doors determines when and 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.600 where and how Marshall raps and when he's gonna rap. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.440 We were just having a conversation, you know what I mean. Like, 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.920 so the whole point was to let these guys know 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.200 that you never know who's watching, and just to be 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:23.480 careful not to burn bridges and the reason why, the 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:36.040 reason why, the reason why. So this is one of 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.839 the things that I expressed that I expressed them when 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.920 we talked. This is after he addressed the situation. So 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.920 I made I made a song called Lighters right, Okay, 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.880 it was the song that I had then was on 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.080 my album, you know what I'm saying. Like, So when 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.760 me and Marshall did the Bad messieviol album, we ended 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.959 up putting that song on the Bad Messievio album. We 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.440 put Bruno mars on it, big hits on you know, 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.760 like the biggest song of the year, number one song 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:09.440 of the year. So I tried to use that energy 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.000 to build Slaughterhouse. So that's how we came up. That's 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.640 how I came up with a song called My Life 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.080 for Slaughterhouse, which ended up not being the right song 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:23.240 for slaughter House. Okay. Now, the fact that I had 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.280 a song of that magnitude and wasn't able to build 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.800 slaughter House, and I also wasn't able to build myself 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.800 off of that song. And it's only because of the energy, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.720 the massive amount of energy that Marshall and Bruno brought 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.800 to the song. So when you're talking about building a brand, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.040 which I'm very familiar with. There's a way that that's done. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.000 So when I had this conversation with Marshall, it was 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.040 way in the beginning for the fatigue. Nati is the 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.960 first of his kind from Detroit. He's the first guy 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:55.800 who's ever came through the door with no stamp from nobody. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.720 Sean had Kanye, I had Marshall, O, we had Marshall, 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.640 everybody has. He was He's the first of its kind 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.400 of come to the classic record out of the gate. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.439 You know what I'm saying. So I just didn't I 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.160 don't want to see Marshall jump in stepping, you know 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.360 what I'm saying. So like what I was trying to 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.200 explain to him, like I would never give my opinion 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.440 in a way that's gonna hurt you. You know what 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.640 I'm saying. Anything, I want nothing but the best for you. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.200 If I make a decision, it's because me is an 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.120 o G. I know what's best. But that doesn't mean 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.640 in my opinion. It doesn't mean that my opinion is 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.520 the determining fact. That it just means that's how I feel. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.760 But the point that I was making on the Breakfast 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.199 Club is just to be careful because I didn't stop 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.400 the song from happening. He stopped the song from happening 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.880 by dis and Marshall on the album. But I also said, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.960 it's not something that can't be repaired. So accountability is 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.079 a big part of communication, being able to hold yourself accountable, 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.040 and it's also a huge part of success. That's what 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.920 I need my my youngest understand in your opinion, what 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.480 was it? What was his his his discrepancy? What was 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.440 this problem that he reached out to M and M 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.920 didn't reach back, or he wanted to get him our record. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.320 We didn't get into that. We didn't wen't. We didn't talking. 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:08.840 You mean, why did he shoot at him on the right? 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.800 I don't think. I don't think it was a particular reason. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.560 I think it was. I think it was more. I 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.440 think it was more supposed to come off like a 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.840 friendly jab because when I talked to him about it, 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.520 he was like, I didn't think I didn't think it 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.480 was a big deal what I said about him, you 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.439 know what I'm saying. So we came to this conclusion, 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.280 if we're in communication more, we don't have a problem. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.480 Because that way, I don't I won't be presumptive. Was 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.120 I won't assume you mean ABC. You won't assume I 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.120 mean ABC. We're just always to be clear, and that's 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.720 how we should be, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.240 you just always like that. Why does it seem like 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.600 we beat for people from our inner cities, because it's 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.960 just it's just something we used. We used to doing that. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.400 Because I can understand why the young is in the comments. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.160 It's like, oh, you hate it on tea because they 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.880 used to niggas hating. They used to the O g 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.200 s hating. The same thing happened to me, niggas hating 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.880 on me. You know what I'm like, Man, I refused. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.600 I refused to use my platform and divide up against 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:12.520 my youngest between beef and then just having friendly competition 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.280 like hip hop. Just hip hop sometimes don't happen. No, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.640 I know, but I mean I did. But what do 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.280 you think in this situation that line is crossed? I 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.440 think I think, I mean, honestly, in my opinion, I 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.040 think he probably was just looking for something to create 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.800 some more smoke so he can keep that moment going. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.800 He came out the gate with a classic that's a 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.560 tough tough position to be in, especially when you're just 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.160 getting out of jail. You don't really because I don't. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.840 The song is so flawless and it's so organic. I 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.440 don't think he even really knew what he did when 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.080 he when he did that song, and it resonated with 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.920 everybody like that. So to have to recreate that same moment, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.320 it's tough to do, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.080 to keep that going, to keep that going. And I 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.959 think that M's level of success and sometimes my level 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:04.480 less success, I think that they sometimes assume that we're 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.600 just detaction, that we got paying them no attention and 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:12.240 we're not for them. And my thing is I need 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.120 to take the steps. I need to take the steps 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.679 to be able to bridge that gap, just to make 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.240 sure that they understand, even if it takes for us 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.800 to come outside of our comfort zone and somehow meet halfway. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.000 And I need him to understand that the unity is 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.400 where the power is at, the unit, that the power 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.840 is in the collector say that you know what I'm saying. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.200 So so I mean we understood each other after we 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.040 after we talk, you know what I'm saying, And what 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.240 what myle what mole is he from? Is that is 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.040 everyone from a mile in dep I think I think 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.880 T is from. He from the West side. I know, 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.360 I don't know exactly where from because he's so much 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.200 younger than me, But I don't know exactly he's the 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.400 west side of though, he's the west side of Good God, 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.120 I don't want y'all got dude from the dad to 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.640 get them a man, you know what I'm saying. We're 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.840 gonna be man. Listen, listen, man, We're gonna be good. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.640 All of us are gonna be good. Everybody's gonna be good. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.720 Nobody's gonna We're not doing that. You're not doing You're 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.480 not doing that. I'm not gonna let that happen, you 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.080 know what I'm saying. So, this is this situation, I 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.880 feel like I'm I'm I'm ahead of it. I feel 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.280 like I have enough control over it as the O 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.440 G and I've been here before, you know what I mean. Like, 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.160 I'm comfortable. I'm comfortable in this space because I know 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.240 I know how to turn things around and flip them 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.720 into a positive. I know how it is with what 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.800 the outcome is on the negative. And we've been there. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.600 You know what I'm saying, what do you think the 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.760 first time, like when you see him? Because because like 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.120 I believe he um on the gram he was like, 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.320 why would you block me? There? No? Why would you 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:44.920 say no? Like, so, what was the first thing that 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.720 came to your mind? I was thinking to myself, block you, brother, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:55.280 block you. But before I could even like, before my 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.040 mind could go in any direction, Jaylen Rose has already 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.200 hitting me. He's blowing me up. Because that's why, because 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.080 y'all from me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jaylen Rose is already 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.040 hitting me, like, yo, Yo, I need I need to 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.240 make sure that you and T Grizzly seeing eye to eye. Man, 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.000 let me let me know if I can link y'all. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.880 And I hit him back like of course, of course, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.160 and we got right on it. We got right on 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.240 the text thread and he was like, h T was 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.960 like I think it maybe just be a misunderstanding. And 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.880 I hit him back absolutely, brother, let's let's just talk. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.440 And um, I said, I actually was he gonna be 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.000 free an hour? He said, yeah, called him an hour. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.600 We kicked it quick. Yo was trying to say, so, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:37.120 no problem, okay, okay, okay, okay yo, We're gonna have 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:43.120 to do this but the joint guy is is broken 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.480 in the bottom. I'm like, leaning, yeah, we got a 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:52.680 bad ship, say like this, so I didn't even know 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:58.440 we got bad chip yeah everything. Yeah, yeah, but I 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:05.800 had to I had to switch man heroin he was 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:11.199 believing that now yeah, sir, so yeah, but I had 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.080 to just let him. I had to let him know. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.399 You know, it's love and respect before anything, you know 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.720 what I'm saying, Like he's uh, I talked to it. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.240 I talked to a few people in passing about him 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.359 in the word on the Youngest now as oh man, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.080 they're just young, they're young stupid, they're crazy, they're young stupid. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.760 I'd never give up on none of them, you know 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.200 what I mean. Like that's just yeah, because I was 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.400 young and stupid or probably you know what I mean. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.720 And they they're young geniuses man, Like he grizly did 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.119 some ship that none of us did, none of us 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:44.880 and that needs to be saluted, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.520 So it's like a win for him and even m 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.040 had a co sign brother, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.800 So for him to come out the gate like that, 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.159 out of nowhere, about before I even knew who he was. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.760 I heard about him through World Star and I'm from Detroit. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.800 You know, you know how amazing that is. So it's like, 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.280 you know, why would I why would I want to 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.640 block that name is a synonymous with Detroit Trick, Trick 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.680 like um like I always think like anytime this beef 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.280 bing within like Detroit, like that's the guy who steps 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.080 in it, and that my bugging. Sometimes sometimes it depends 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.000 on what the situation is. Me and Trick, you know, 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:24.359 we tight. We didn't even speak about this. This didn't 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:28.880 even this. This came nowhere near that. No cause got made? 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:34.280 Where Yeah, in Detroit, it's a little small when you're 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.520 talking about important people, you know, so like no cause 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.639 got made. I think he was really challenging the O 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.280 G S, which he's supposed to do, you know what 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.000 I mean, Like we don't always do everything right. They 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:48.760 gotta make sure we're on our toes too, And I 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.240 told him that. I told him, you know, if it's 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.119 if there's ever something you think I'm not doing or 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.160 you think I'm not doing right, you can always call 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.679 me and challenge me. You know what I'm saying, bring it, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.840 bring it to me, make sure and I'm doing everything 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:02.440 that I'm supposed to do, and I'll do the same 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.119 with you. Let's keep pushing each other like that, and 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.320 let's make this ship great, Let's make the city great. 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.320 Let's break let's break all the cycles, you know what 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.880 I mean, Like we did that. We did the bickering 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:13.960 back and forth phone TV for the world to see 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.480 us look like some fucking buffoons. Beef this, beef, that, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:23.480 beef this. There's no no money and that, no money 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.840 and that, no power in that, no anything in that. 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:31.440 It's only one one type of person who can monetize that, 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.320 and that's the powers that be. You know what I mean. 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.000 We'll never be on the same team as them, because 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.680 everything about them is to our detriment and as long 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.359 as we continue to divide, we'll always be pawns on 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.679 that chessboard. We gotta start thinking different, you know what 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.440 I'm saying. So that's that's what I'm trying to get 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.399 them to understand. And we all work in progress, and 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.040 I'm gonna keep I'm gonna continue to just keep doing 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.159 my part and I'm gonna keep showing them love the 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:02.679 way that I'm supposed to. That got that, How did that? 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.280 How did that convo with him on your album, Like, 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.399 how did that skit come about? Him? Talking about what 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.000 he was talking about? You took it back to the 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.520 old school with the skits man and even Jack drink 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:18.360 chaps from the skits. We don't here. You gotta call 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.680 us for climming. Don't worry about it. But but that 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.359 was deep. That was deep what he was talking about, 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.320 you know, Like, and it was you'll be kicking that 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.040 ship on here. You know, we got you, we had, 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.560 but we should saying he got m on the skid? 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.200 I mean, was was that meant to be a skit? 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.160 Was that a convoy y'all recorded for something else? And 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.520 how did that come about? We were having a conversation. Um, 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:42.840 we're talking about a lot of deep things, talk about 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:46.080 white privilege, talking about hip hop, about being a guest 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.880 in hip hop stuff, Lord mar be talking about like 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.280 we're talking about everything. You're talking about everything. I mean, 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:53.960 me and me and M. I ain't spoke to him 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:55.800 in a minute, but me and M we sit on 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.720 the phone for hours and just talk about different things, 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:04.320 different things, how they're affecting us, how they affect our day. 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:09.399 You know, Um, perspective is like a big, big topic 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.040 of conversation, perspective, the way that people see things, and 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.760 why we think that people see things in a certain way, 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:16.680 you know what I mean. So we were just kicking 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:23.200 it and he just talked for like maybe ten fifteen 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.000 minutes straight. I didn't say a word. He was just 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.720 going off, not I don't know, like mad ship, but 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.640 just he was just kicking Ship, like you know something 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.840 like this is gonna be a skip for something. He 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:40.199 were just talking. He just sometimes you just get and 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.760 I was just sitting there listening to him. I was 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.560 just like, why is it being recorded there? No, no, no, no, no, 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:49.920 this this isn't what you So after we got off 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:52.840 the after we after we was done talking, I was like, Yo, 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:55.879 do you think if I sent you a beat you 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.639 could say everything that you just said or something some 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.200 derivative of it. And he was like, Ship, I don't 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.480 even know what I was just said, but I could try, 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.320 you know what I'm saying. So I sent him a 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.960 beat the next day and he went in and he 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.720 talked for twelve minutes. He talked for twelve minutes, and UM, 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:17.560 I went up to the studio when I listened to it, 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.000 and UM, of course he wanted to run and running 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.879 by Paul, that's his partner, So he um sent it 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.880 to Paul. Paul just took it. Paul has a way 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:30.120 of like hearing things, and he himself edited it down, 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.400 you know what I mean, Like we rappers, we babbled, 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.560 Paul edit it. Yeah, Paul edited because Paul. You know, 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:39.600 Paul is an attorney, right Paul. So Paul took the 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:41.560 fluff out, you know what I mean, Like he edited 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.560 out all the fluff and then made it a straight thought, 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.200 you know what I'm saying. So he you probably cut 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.680 it down and like, what was it six minutes maybe? Yeah, 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:52.439 And he cut it down and that's what what you 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.240 guys heard is is is what he edited it down to. 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.800 But there's still six minutes of cutting room floor stuff 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.760 that didn't That makes some forgot got that the first 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:05.919 time you stopped to for real, y'all battled on the 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:09.479 phone the very first time. Yes, I didn't know what 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:14.359 to see. Will remember this, I'm sure you remember this. 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:20.560 It was me Forrell Marshall. And there's a group from 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.399 Ohio called the Clinic. I can't remember how many of 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.320 them it was, but the niggas was nice, so it 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.040 was the clinic, it was Forrell, it was me, it 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:32.919 was Marshall, and everybody was taking turns, just rapping on 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:37.920 the phone on the phone. This is uh, this is 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.439 still the nineties because this is before this is this 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.560 is before he got signed. This is at least ninety nine, 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:50.760 he meaning because this is before Marshall got signed, but before. 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.480 If it's nine, then that's the super Dog that's after 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.119 what what So this is before that? Then this is 0:23:56.160 --> 0:24:05.600 before that. Well, super came out, came out of ninety eight. Yeah, 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.560 so they got to be ninety seven. Yeah, so man, 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:09.240 so maybe you know what it might be the beginning 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.080 of the the ninety eight because came out of June. This 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.800 is definitely before that broke. I would have known him 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.280 from you, okay, what I was spotting you? Okay, so 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.840 we we didn't know him, Yeah, we didn't know that time. 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.679 Yea even ill so you don't even know what this is. 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.400 So I know he's a producer, but I don't know him. 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.679 I have I don't connect him to you, Okay, you 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:35.520 know what I'm saying. So Rob was Rob Walker, um, 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:41.399 Rob Walker Erica. They're working at Quest Records. You remember 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.800 when Rob work a and R is in Quest Records, 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.760 and he's like, um, yeah, Rob got this uh in 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:53.960 Derrick Jackson, Derk Jackson, Quest is Quincy Jones Labor. Yes, yes, 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:55.919 for people who don't know Derrick Jackson's that's the one 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.280 who started master the Scott story. After that, yes, okay, 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.520 time of Boy Records, Okay accent he talking the most ship. 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.040 He was like, yeah, nigga, like he didn't one who 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:05.520 put the clinic on the phone, and you know, they 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:07.480 all like, yeah, I got my nigga. Well I got 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:11.640 my nigga. So Rob had for real, uh Rick had, 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.920 Eric had me, I had Marshall. I brought him in 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:22.560 and then um yeah yeah so we so we were 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.840 on the phone and then we all just going, everybody 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.639 just going taking turns going, and all while we rapping. 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.680 Marshall yeah yeah, everyone and who else is on this 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:39.280 phone and everyone, everybody including for a holy and I'll 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.680 remember for real, he reminded me a lot of nos. 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.880 I remember thinking he's smooth, super smooth with it. He's 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.240 kept rapping about the band's wagon. He kept saying something 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.240 about the band's wagon, and I remember I kept saying, 0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:52.679 what then what is no? Did I look at it 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.680 in retrospect, the nigga probably had two or three of 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:59.200 the moment I looked back in time, I said, looking 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.719 for Roles, watch this right now. I'm a big watch guy, right, 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.719 I wasn't it back then, But I just look at 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.119 his watches and I like this cheap ass brother watched 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.760 Years later I figured out that was a fucking Richard male. 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.640 Ye had one back then, not nine the nineties. I'm 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:18.760 like mid two, thou know what I'm saying. No one 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.280 knew what the robber watch was like. Like if we 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.679 had G shops, you got all right now, brother, then 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:30.720 you get a lot of one. Well yea, So he's 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.760 been his advanced, but that's crazy advance that that that 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.359 you were like, that means you actually spoke to him 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.320 prior to me, because because I met him, I met 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.960 him one day throughout the next day and then recorded 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.640 Winning the next day, So that means you technically met 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.240 for realm before me. But you got in the studio 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:49.760 with him for I got the shoot and I knew it. 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.400 I knew, like I knew as soon as I met 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.480 it is weird, as I said, yeah, look as soon 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.520 as he came to me, he was like he said, 0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.359 no one listens to me. The first person who listens 0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.119 to me is gonna get number one. And I said, 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.439 did he say that? He said that, Bro, He's a 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.240 amatonic jewel dropper And for some rejews, I believe them, 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.080 Like listen, by the way I got to know more 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.720 record at the time I got R E. Norri stands 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.880 for Nigga's on the Run Eating. My album's done. Rob 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.480 walk Up talks so Mary Moore and they get me 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.280 in the studio and it's like he's like, your album's 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.080 not done. Like he was cocky was back then, like 0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.560 like what, it's just for all this is no, this 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.280 is for all the chat. But Bro has always been 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.760 the front morning. He's always been like Chad is there 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.000 but for so so He's like, no, your album is 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.840 not done. And I'm like, I'm like, dude, Like that's 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.399 how cocky he was back then. I'm like, dude, I 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.000 actually literally handed in my album. He's like, it's not done. 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.560 So if this is to Super Doug, listen to what 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.480 what what at the end like your eat nor the 0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.720 remix because we try to sneak it on as a remix. 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:52.800 You know what, I'm saying because the album was already done. 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.359 But moving on. So um, I also heard you the 0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.400 reason why no artist is allowed to go to Tom 0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:03.120 Superman's apartment. Uh, I feel bad about that, man. Come 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:13.040 on and I feel bad. Let's get into it right there. 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:14.879 I sold. Then I sold. This is the that I 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.600 sold tuning in for right now you was in Okay, 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.840 let's go. Yeah. So um I did. I did a meeting. 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.480 I did a meeting with Tommy Boy, me and Eric. 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.520 We did a meeting with Tommy Boy. Um with a 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.720 cat named Tyrone. Tyrone. This is after you made a 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.439 decision to go with Tommy Boy or Dr Dre. This 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.520 is for this is before, So this is this is 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.360 first we did. First we did the meeting, he said, 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.880 he said he fun with the music. I think he 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.640 passed it. He passed, he passed. So Um. When I 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.960 started working with Dre and Marshall, I was working with 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.840 Dre on the Chronic. You know, word got around the 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.200 industry that I was working with Marshall and Drake. I did. 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.960 That was around them and everybody on the East coast. 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.080 All the labels on the East Coast wanted to meet again. 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.120 You know, once they found out of course. So I 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.240 went back and I met with Tommy Boy with the 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.080 same records. Did he have an adeline on when Tom 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:12.920 silver Um, I don't remember the home said yeah, yeah 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:17.080 on a regular day weird ship in the world and 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:22.080 looking like ye running. Yeah. So when when I went back, 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.400 the meeting was a little bit different, you know, like 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.480 it's like the whole staff was in there, but it 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.200 was kind of like and everybody was all excited about 0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.959 these same records that they passed on. So um, one 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.320 thing led to another. I ended up signing to deal 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.000 with them. Um they gave me a million dollars. So um, 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.320 I feel like we gotta make some noise. Come on, man, 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:50.920 I'm sorry forget Yeah. So um so Tom Silverman he 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.320 bet the farm on me sort of speak. I think 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:55.880 you know what I'm saying, Like, I think that was 0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.200 the last kind of deal like that that he did. 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.960 He really believed in me. That's why I got and 0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:07.640 this is this is two thousand and this is ship Okay, yeah, yeah, 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.360 I'm two thousands. Yeah, because I didn't get the Timy 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:18.160 Boy yet. I remember, yeah, okay, because I remember remember 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.720 there from the beginning there. Yeah, yeah, you know what 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.480 I remember because you were there prior to me, and 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.840 I was always on the timeboy, but time boards I'm 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.880 on penalty was own by Tommy Boy. But then they 0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.920 kicked penalty out and then I was fully on time Boy. 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.240 But you was there. Pride, That's why I know, yes 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:35.960 had to be. You was one of the reasons why 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:40.160 I went over there. Listen, let me just say you 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.480 something about Tom Silman. A lot of people that get slack. 0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.840 If you show Tom Simmerman that you're working and you 0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.200 got something like he will put the break up. He 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.080 would like, we just said, that's why you see. I 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.000 didn't flinch, but it's just it's just I feel like, 0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.600 you know, hearing that I sold story like um and 0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.280 hearing the practices that he takes, he owes a lot 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.160 more to hip hop. Like they think about it is 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.600 this we know we signed these these these kids deals 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.520 and used it and then for it to be twenty 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.680 five years thirty years later. I think I think people 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.240 deserve it like UMU, whether you were cooped or not. 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.520 If you have an album for thirty years, twenty years, 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.760 twenty five years, I think the rightful thing to do 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:23.160 is split it. Yeah, because everything else is changing exactly everything. 0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.160 Like if you if you own my album for twenty 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:26.880 if I wanted your album with twenty years ago and 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.120 you came to me and say, Yo, Nori, let's do 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.640 a split. No no, not only would I want to 0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.560 split it with you, but because I know you would 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:36.960 want to go out there and promote it. Like I 0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.680 feel sad sometimes when when I go online and I 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.200 stream a Daylight Soul so a show and they won't 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.680 even do those records, like they don't make anything out 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.880 the polish inside. They won't even perform sometimes, like at 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.960 least I see, like you know, Trutch and Naughty by Nature, 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.520 at least they'll they'll perform those records and stuff like that. 0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.160 Like sometimes like I want to hear potholes in my lawn, 0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.560 you know what I'm saying, Like I want to hear 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.560 all that stuff, but that that that that boughted me. 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.360 So Tom Shimman, I don't know if you're listening, but yeah, 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:06.600 I think you can make it right man. I think 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.000 it's not too late, you know what I'm saying. Moving on, So, 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:13.200 so what happened in the apartment though, so um so 0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.120 we needed somewhere to stay at um in order for 0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:20.120 me to to record the album. So he gave us. 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.080 He gave us his apartment, you know, one of his 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.920 spots that he had. Uh, he's subleasing this big gass apartment. 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:28.720 I'm not gonna say where because I don't know if 0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.880 he still has it, no problem, but it was a 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.400 great it's a great apartment, man, it's a great apartment. 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.800 And I know I remember just being in there. I 0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:42.520 remember just being in there and little to all of them. 0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:46.800 My um My, my, my bro, my Bro came into town. 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:51.720 This was when um Marshall wanted the move man, if 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.120 he should want his first move man. That night we 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.080 were all just like happy for him, you know what 0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.640 I mean, And everybody was like drunk and high. And 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.160 I remember it being about ten fifteen niggas in the 0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:07.360 apartment and everybody's from Detroit. Everybody flew in and everybody 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.080 was standing in my well, it was my apartment at 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.960 the time in my mind, you know, so you're occupying it. 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:18.719 I just remember. I just remember um My big Bro 0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.239 getting into it with somebody and the he brow with him, 0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:26.960 and I remember them having words and grabbing each other, 0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.800 and I remember my Bro grabbing them and pulling them 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.000 into the bathroom and slamming the door behind them, and 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.240 I'm hearing nothing but just rockets in the bathroom, and 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.280 I was just thinking to myself, like, it's not gonna 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.840 be good. This is not gonna be good. It's not 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:47.120 gonna be good in there. YO. So about about five 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.440 minutes later, they come out breathing all hard, and I 0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.680 hear my big bro like, because what the dude was 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.040 supposed to be like muscle and he was like a 0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.480 was supposed to be able to throw your big ass 0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:02.840 around like that. Oh my god. I go in the bathroom, 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.720 but and the fucking shower out is torn down, the 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.840 mirrors off the wall, and in the wall. Bro, it 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.360 couldn't be worse than what I saw in there. And 0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.239 I remember just thinking to myself, like damn. And then 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:16.840 you know, they stayed for a couple of days, so 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.719 the whole apartment was kind of like trash. It looked 0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.600 like some rockers that stayed there. So, um, the housekeeping 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.919 lady came and she didn't even clean it. She just looked. 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.560 She just took one look at it and turned around 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.719 and walked off. And she did like a report. I 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.920 guess weekly she has to do it like a report. 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.600 She did a report and she said, and I quote 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.520 people to do that. I quote she said, it looked 0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.160 like a crack house in there. That's what she told 0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.360 That's what she told. Her reference point was what was 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:52.399 Tom's phone call to you. I never spoke to Tom 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.320 Silverman after that. I never spoke to him after that. 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:57.680 They just told us we had to get out the apartment. 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:02.520 And when I went to turn the album and we 0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.400 had a meeting, it was time at that meeting, the 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:09.640 last meeting. Now he wasn't even that eating. So we 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.640 went to play the album and they wait until we 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.200 were done. We had five Neptune Records, five Neptune Records 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.359 to just Blaze Records. Um, who else do we have either, 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.640 we have Primo Records. We had a star studied lineup 0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:29.479 of producers, and um, after we were done playing a record, 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:34.240 they were like, okay, okay, yeah, we we liked the songs, 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.360 but we don't know who you are not listening to 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.600 these songs. And I couldn't, for the life of me, 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.440 figure out what the funk they were talking about. I 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.400 thought they were hating. I was doing that accountability thing 0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.160 that we do when were young. I couldn't hold myself 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.279 accountable for ship. I was like, they're hating on me, 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.799 and they didn't end up accepting the album, so they 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.839 didn't release it. And that's how I ended up getting 0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.960 released from Tommy Boys, so I can move to Sony 0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:01.200 to Colombia. Wow. That that that's how the Tommy Boy 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.640 thing ended. I wasn't able to there's an album to 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.120 them that they felt was and you think you think 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.640 that was close to the department thing, or because you 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.960 think that that that you wasn't showing them in retrospect, 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.239 the apartment thing probably had a little bit to do 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.040 with it. But I didn't know how to make album. 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.839 I just didn't you know, it was a cohesive album. Yeah, 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:23.839 it wasn't cohesive. It was probably it was all over 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.279 the place. If I can remember back properly, it was 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.839 just a bunch of different songs. I was wrapping good 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.040 on all the songs, but there wasn't a complete thought. 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.720 And that's people wonder why to this day I use skits. 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.799 And but when that person said to you, we don't 0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.560 know who you are now, I think that that was 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.640 great advice. Yes, yes, I think that I thought that 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:49.440 was artistic critique of that album, Yes, I didn't understand it. 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.360 I think that I think that every artist should do 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.959 at least one self defining album. I think that every 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:02.759 artist should find there's owns self definition. The b could 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.439 we not have more noises happening in this episode? Yeah, 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:10.680 so that that self, that self defining thing. You gotta 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.640 go out and you gotta find that. You gotta find 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.880 out who you are, and once you get to that 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:18.160 place where you know who you are, express that, and 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.560 preferably if you could do with your first album, so 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.520 you can get that out the way, it can be 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.800 like an introduction, kind of like how reasonable doubt is, 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.719 how eomatic is. If you could do that, you know, 0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:32.399 war Report exactly, If you could do that from there, 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.759 it's very easy to build the brand from there. That's 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:37.719 kind of crazy for me to hear you say that, though. 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.560 That's kind of crazy for me to hear that you 0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.839 didn't think your first was that it wasn't it wasn't 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.239 you know, reporting about because I was fresh out of 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.640 the open mics, So I was fresh off that phone 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.399 call with Reil and them. You know what I'm saying, 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.120 Like I was a battle rapper, I was I just 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:58.000 you know, my first love was battling mcs, rapping about 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.080 how good I could wrap, impressing other mcs. My only 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.600 dream was just to be accepted by red Man and 0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:10.440 rass Cash. Buy what I'm saying, You know what I mean? 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:14.560 So you know, like I did all my evolving in 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.800 the fire. You know what I'm saying is that recording process. 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.279 M did a joint with the Neptunes around this time. No, 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.240 he um, I remember I was getting in the studio 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.560 with for real Um for the for the because they're 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.920 never on record done a record together? Right? Oh yeah, 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.000 that's right. Then my forgot about that. Yeah, we did. 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.160 We did. We did a song called She the One, 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.399 Me and Marshall did over over a Neptune beat. Oh, 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.920 She the One. But that's never seen the light of day. 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.520 I think it may have been on YouTube, but it's 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:50.840 never it's never officially. No. And we also got in 0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:54.040 the studio together for the what was the Football? The 0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:58.839 football movie with l Cold and Jamie and he give 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:05.680 give us under right, it was that movie because for 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.719 any given Sunday. Yeah, I need my plock for that too. 0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:17.719 Yeah here write that down to I'm missing nothing to 0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:21.640 lose it's only five soundtrack missing Foxy Brown Joint. I'm 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.600 missing what was that give Sunday? And I'm missing like two, 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.560 two or three more. I don't have my my chronic plaque, 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.239 not like you just from Yeah, I'm not gonna lie 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.600 clue DJ clue. I should have a DJ clue. I 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.680 got to DJ your shout off to DJ clue, and um, 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.200 I just don't have any more space on the wall 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.160 because big space. Mr Porter, Mr Porter, you know what 0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:46.640 I was gonna put my R Kelly plaque. I got 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.000 a R plaque. I'm so sorry, don't put it in 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:50.880 this ship up. And it's gonna put it an X 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.319 over it like look like off white. But it's gonna 0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:59.320 because you know, I don't want to throw the block away. 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:06.160 I mean eight million. I don't know this guy, but 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.399 I don't want to hang it up. I don't want 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.680 to be like because I mean, I noticed that people 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:15.279 come to the Creator like, oh, ship and then they oh, 0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.279 look at that. I used to look back at Oh. 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.560 I had kind of do it that should I like, 0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.960 But you know, I didn't know they were gonna put 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.359 black axe over there. So it's going they're gonna say 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:31.359 it's off white. I'm saying, no, it's off are even 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.640 don't collecting my cup and plugs in my place? Yeah? 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:35.719 I get it, I get it. Damn we went, we 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.359 went crazy to be went all right? Cool? I got 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.879 notes here. Goddamn, I hold on, she's been a year 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.080 in jail for drinking. How the hell does that? What 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.759 kind of what was you drinking? Brother? What was I drinking? Yeah? 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.799 Because it's very specifically, it's not like he was drinking 0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.919 straight director jail drink. Yeah, I was drinking, don't pass 0:40:55.960 --> 0:41:00.040 go to tronka yah. Yeah, I remember you was a 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:05.520 super straight patron guy out the bottle type. Yeah, okay, 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.800 to look at what happened. Yeah, so I was drinking 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:14.000 patron um And what happened was um, I was, I was. 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.719 I was drinking and driving. I got I got pulled 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.760 over a late at night one night and my lawyer, 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.080 I remember my lawyer when I got that offense, pushing 0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.759 the court date back because we're gonna try and beat it. 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:29.200 So um. They put me on this program called JAMS, 0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.759 and that's basically where they assigned you a color and 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.600 if they if they if your color comes up, you 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:38.879 gotta check every day. You gotta call this number every day, 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.359 and if you call it and you hear your color, 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.960 you gotta go blow into a device That next morning, 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:48.400 and my color came. I went blue into divice to 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.959 the device, and I blew dirty because I was drinking 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.040 the night before. Okay, okay, damn that's that's that's something 0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.839 that we kids need to know. So if you drink 0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:58.799 the night before, I said, it is still in your 0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.560 system in the morning, don't let nobody else tell you 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.120 different for sure, because you know, like I left somebody, 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:05.920 that's what it was. I wasn't like little drunk. I 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:07.759 wouldn't lit up. No, I wouldn't lit up back before. 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.840 I wasn't wasn't lit up the night before. But I 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.640 drink the night before, and somebody told me, yeah, man, 0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.680 all you gotta do is just stopped drinking it, you know, 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:26.279 eleven o'clock or whatever. He said, My god, yeah, So 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.520 so you know, I'm listening to this stupid nigga. So 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.040 so I go and I'll blow I'll blow dirty. So 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.800 that's an offense. And then before I can even go 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.800 to court to rectify anything, I get another one, another 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:43.160 d y. I get pulled over again. So I got 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.719 two in the air at the same time, and I 0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:51.880 blew dirty, terrible, terrible. Oh and I got and I 0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:56.000 got driving without driving with license to spend it offensive 0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:01.800 running the current Well yeah, bench warns already. No, no, no, no, no, 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.120 it's just it when you get caught drinking and driving 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.359 that we don't even discuss because they're drinking and driving 0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:13.560 is such a big deal. Driving license just just a 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:17.160 bigger deal. See you today, Like DMX, you did not 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.920 pull up today. You had a driver. He was very conservative, 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:24.040 very drinking. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Listen, everybody 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.600 go with DMX. The driver drives for about ten minutes 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:32.000 and then actually like more like oh, let me get 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.560 out the call, hold on before anything happened. But he 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:36.560 loves the drip. He's a speed with me. Let me 0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:40.080 tell you something, brother, like this is my eighth year. 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.360 I'm going eight years, so that makes a noise for that. 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.359 You know, I don't want you to stop where you're 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.200 going with it. Just so you know, today this is 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.239 my third drink champ, so I'm only drinking water. I'm 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.400 gonna drink I figured, I said, you know what, let 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.120 me joining them. Don't make me feel bad. I'm saying, 0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:01.239 I'm still getting spoken, but I could, I could do 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.720 I could do a drink. Chance. You know he's not drinking. 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.959 It's okay. I'm so vegetarian fasting, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.719 So yea yeah, because I'm still eating cheese. Yeah, but 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.279 you know what I mean. But I'm like, you know, 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.720 I'm from New York. I got look slimmer since I've 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:20.200 been trying to think taking me over. That's my nigger, 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.640 that's my nigging. So, um, what was you talking about? 0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:26.160 What was doing? I was saying, I'm eight years sober now, 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.160 eight years sober now, and I'm still having it. I'm 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:36.200 speaking sobriety events, do charitable things, preaching on the positivity. 0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.200 Oh you smoke weed? Nothing nothing. If you don't do 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:43.560 anything back, then do you smoke weed? Just just drink? Okay? 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:45.839 And you think you think that that was like, uh, 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.640 that was a downfall for you drinking because of how 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.400 much you drink. Yeah, I think the amount that I 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:56.400 drink would be anybody's downfall. You know. Um, I just 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.719 don't think it's possible to be productive and not really 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:03.759 be coherent most of the day, you know, Like I 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:08.480 wasn't even really good for a phone call after ten 0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.759 pm unless you like close friend of mine and we're 0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.360 like talking crazy shit. We couldn't. I couldn't conduct business 0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.000 after temp m you know what I mean, because I 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:19.960 was just I just used to be lit up, and 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:21.919 I mean it's just, you know, it started out fun. 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.320 Then it just turned into a problem, you know, And 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:29.759 I got I'm obsessive, compulsive by nature, you know me 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.120 and you talked about that the other day. But yeah, 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:35.480 I'm obsessive, complosive. But whatever. What that means is whatever 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.640 you into, you into, Yeah, go all the way like 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:55.360 eat pussy eating ask too. It wasn't okay. So what 0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:59.040 was your conversation with Joe after he uhm m this 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:06.000 uh Nick Canning My conversation with Fat Joe with Joe 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:10.480 button after button this eminem after he you mean when 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.640 he's when he uh when he talked about this album 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.040 he said, yeah, he said that he said the trash 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.640 or something like that. Yeah. I don't I don't remember 0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:23.840 exactly what I said. What what what said? Um? I 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.840 just remember us having a long conversation where he expressed 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:29.600 how he felt about it, and I expressed how I 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:31.880 felt about it. I think I had just I just 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.759 went this podcast as well, right, yeah, I went, I went, 0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.480 I did. Um, I had just did my rollout for 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.520 my for my album, my last album, Book of Ryan, 0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.160 and I remember I went through that whole rollout, and 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:46.200 I remember just I kept having to like talk about Joe, 0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.400 um in a negative I kept having to speak about him, 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.399 but his name kept coming up, but it was more 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.359 in a negative sort of light. You know, like people 0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.839 were kind of like not pitting us against each other, 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.560 but the way that his dan was coming up. You know, Um, 0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:07.000 I didn't like it because you feel like Joe could 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.560 have said a different Yeah. Yeah, yeah he could have. 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:13.600 He could have. Um, it was a zillion different ways 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:15.800 he could have handled it. But just in regards to me, 0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.759 you know, um, I think I'll remember telling him something 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:22.960 along the lines of, man, I don't I don't deserve that, 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:24.719 you know what I'm saying, Like what I don't I 0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.680 didn't sign up for that, you know what I mean? 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.480 Like it's what we said earlier, like I'm I'm just 0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:32.080 about the wraps. I'm not about all of this, saying 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.960 like I'm not about you know, the gray area. You know, 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:36.920 it's one thing or the other thing with me, you 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:38.920 know what I mean, Like you're my friend, you know, 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:42.120 And and that's how I am with my friends though, 0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.000 you know, like if if there's an issue, if I 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.640 have an issue with some of one of my friends 0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:47.920 have issues with something, we bring it to the table. 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.719 We talked about it, we yell about it, whatever needs 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.680 to happen, and then we come to a solution, a resolution. 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:56.239 And that's what we did. We came to a resolution. 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.759 He told he apologized to me, He told me he 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.440 loved me, he didn't want me to feel like that. 0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.200 I accepted his apology and that was to my job, 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.960 right And um, you think him and m were right 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:11.440 to partitiation or that was just his opinion. It's not 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.520 really a beef. I think it's definitely not a beef. 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:16.320 It's not a beef. I mean, m didn't like it, 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.440 you know, like I can't. I'd be a fool to 0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:20.920 say here and try to speak for Marshall, you know 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.120 what I mean, Like he feels how he feels about it. 0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.719 You know, we've had conversations here and there about it. 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:28.760 You know, Joe feels how he feels. I think anything 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.440 can be rectified through conversation. If that's something that they 0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.279 chose to do in the future, you know what I'm 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:36.080 saying right now, that's dope. I hope, I hope. I 0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:39.200 hope they work it out. Um. I just I just 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:41.359 feel like, you know, I get with it's coming from 0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.279 because it's coming from like the inside, you know what 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:47.040 I'm saying. And because I think Marshall was that album 0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.040 still we went like platinum and still went or whatever. 0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:52.359 So like do you do you you ever think how 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.520 how weird that is? Like you can see a person 0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:56.680 like how big Marshall is or how big jay Z 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.240 is and how big Dos is and they pay attention 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:03.200 to the little like yeah, like that's kind of like 0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.120 how they got to where they are. Bro, you know 0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:06.560 what I'm saying, Like if you think about that's how 0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:08.799 they got to where they are, and it's like it's inspiring. Man. 0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.480 In I was just talking about this the other day. 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:13.640 I was saying, you could you just have Floyd on 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.479 the show, and um, one thing that I admire about 0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.480 Floyd in the ring is that the way he makes adjustments, 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.480 you know, like the champion in him comes out, Like 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:24.280 when he got caught with the Big Shot from Shane. 0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:28.120 The champion in him came out, and that person right there, 0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:30.560 you cannot judge that person, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:35.000 That person right there's the top, the tippity top of 0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.920 the top tier. And that's what I think that we're 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:41.320 seeing Marshall doing. Now he's making his adjustments, you know, 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.440 like he's he's he's been flawless. He went flawless for 0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:46.800 a lot of years straight, and now he's under scrutiny 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:48.880 and he needs to find a different way to do 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.200 certain things. And now he's making adjustments and they just 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.000 keep getting better and better and better. If you look 0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.920 since Revival, ships just been better and better for better. 0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:58.879 Now his last this last album that he just put 0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.799 out music to everybody, to me, in my opinion, it's 0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:04.719 the best one since Recovery. You know what I'm saying, 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.759 He's got music already that he's been recording, right, I'm 0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:13.560 sure I don't mean you would know you produced produce. 0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.320 I produced. I produced two songs on his last on 0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.320 this album. I produced two songs on it. I'll produce 0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:26.520 You're Gonna Learn and Darkness. So nothing that you've produced 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.359 that you know is coming out still not that I'm 0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:33.000 aware of. But you've given production over. I've given it. 0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:34.640 He got he's probably got some Yeah, he got some 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:38.320 beats of money he hasn't wrapped to. But um, I 0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:39.879 don't know. I don't know what he's been doing. I'm 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.480 talking to Marshall in a minute. It's been months months, 0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.319 so I don't know. I don't know what he's been doing. 0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:49.800 But um, when he's quiet, when he's quiet, you never know. 0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.040 You never know what he's gonna, you know what I mean, 0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.799 Like he's doing something he ain't vacation And I'll tell 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:59.239 you tell you that now, Tory Lanes. You want Tory Lanes. 0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.919 You have some backing for Yeah? On Twitter? Okay, y'all 0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:05.160 you worked it out. Of course it wasn't. It wasn't 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.799 over the headline or nothing like that. Come on, I'm 0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:14.839 just saying, you know, it wasn't like if I could, 0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:20.239 if I remember properly, he was. Somebody asked me on 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:25.440 Twitter if I felt like this is how they worded it. 0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:30.799 They said, do you feel Tory Lanes one against join 0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:35.399 the Lucas? And I tweeted back no, because I felt 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:40.080 like join the one. But I was about to. I 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:44.560 was about to tweet, but Tory came with it because 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.239 I'm a fan of Tory. And before I could do that, 0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:50.200 he was on it. He was on and I didn't. 0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:52.600 I didn't add his unge the whole America one. Yeah, 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.880 he was just he was just on. He was the 0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:57.799 only one at that moment. I love that fire though. 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.759 I love that fire was it wasn't no, it wasn't 0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.320 no offense taken like you really love battle rap like that. 0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:05.440 I love it. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:08.359 you the other day, I've been phoning off on battle rap, 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.440 like you know, it's like really takes a couple of 0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:14.839 hours of your time, you really. But the other day, obviously, um, 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.040 I was probably one of the first person I know 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:20.400 Marshall picked it up to map hop is um what 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.480 is it called my my professional opinion or my expert opinion. 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.359 I've been big en up forever because if I can't 0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:29.400 watch the battles, it's like watching first take sometimes, Like 0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:31.600 sometimes I don't watch the games, but I go and 0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:36.640 listen for sick anyway, So I'm listening to map hopor whatever, 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:38.880 and then um, it goes off and this is a 0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:41.759 battle that I just saw and let me know if 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:44.919 you saw this. But the dude, this is the first 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.520 like friendly battle I saw in a long time. And 0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.680 I could tell these guys were friendly with each time. 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:54.040 But the dude battle and other dude he puts on 0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:57.240 the Walmark outfit. Did you see this one? And smack? 0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:00.480 Because one of the dudes worked in Walmart and the 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.239 dude got the dude got the drop that he worked 0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:07.520 and Wald what Yo, this was hilarious. My god, you 0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.279 gotta look at this stuff. He put the Walmart offre. Yeah, 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:12.879 So I don't know what's going on because I'm out 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.120 of the loop, right, So I'm I don't look, so 0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:17.839 I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's 0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:20.080 going on. Okay, guys, I don't know what's going on. 0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.239 So I'm looking and he's like, oh, you think I 0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:24.680 don't know where you work at? So he turns around 0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:26.160 and they put a hat on him and they put 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.440 a vest on them. But from the angle and watched it, 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:32.520 I can't tell. We're gonna investor ship. So he turns around, 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:36.640 he goes, he goes some ship. You to do that 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:38.840 when we walk out of the store, you'd be checking 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:44.680 out receiving this is the craziest ship. So, I mean 0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:49.440 it was like the first time because battle rap at 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:53.680 first to me was was your friends, it was yo yo. 0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:57.680 But then somewhere along the line, you know what, let 0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:00.040 me bick a map off again with him. He on 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:04.120 into snuffing to the game and everyone knows it down. 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:07.279 Now this is a possibility. You can't get snuffed or 0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:12.239 you might be the one doing the snuffing. So it 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.640 kind of and then now I'm started excellent. I seeing 0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:17.319 more and more fights. So even see a white guy 0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:20.719 actually used the N word and they snuffed in which 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:22.920 I think he should have got snuffed again. I think 0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:26.520 the whole crowd should snuffed him. Um. But you know 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.360 it's it's it's it's it's repetitive. It is so just 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:32.240 for me to see two brothers just go on stage 0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:35.040 and I mean they tore it into each other. So 0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:38.520 you should google it's smack uh Google. We'll come back 0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:40.759 to it. But it was I could you not, Like 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.400 tears came out of my eyes, like literally I had 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.200 to call my man Will Millions. I was like, yo, 0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:47.560 who is this guy? He's like, oh, that should happened 0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:49.040 in Queens. I was like, damn, I didn't even know 0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.600 what happened, and I couldn't because you know what it was. 0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:56.239 It was on like an Explorer page, so you know 0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:58.799 how like you know how you like something will come 0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:02.560 up on on that somebody you're not even following, for 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.480 somebody your affiliate following, and that ship popped up and 0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:07.600 how could you not? It was one of those those 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:10.359 joints Royce. It was so good that I don't even 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:13.040 want to be winded, like you know usually see it 0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:14.719 was good you want to watch, but he got his 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:18.120 wonder course so good the first time. I didn't even 0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.239 need to I remember, like like if you don't even 0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:23.000 remember the words, I remember the basics of the conversation, 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.640 but if you finally let me know. But a battle Rapper, 0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:29.680 didn't you have a league? Wasn't you a part of 0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:33.120 the league? Like? Okay? That was the only thing on 0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:36.120 BT correct now. It was on the Fuse network, on 0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:40.400 the Fuse Confused network. Basically, Basically what we did was 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:44.960 we put some battle Rappers in the house. You ever 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.680 seen the UFC reality show where they are where all 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:49.799 the fighters live with each other, and they all came 0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:52.480 they see the UFC one I thought, I thought the 0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:54.960 Rappers one was the first one. So that's where the 0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:56.719 UFC thing was first. That's kind of like where the 0:55:56.760 --> 0:56:00.760 idea came from. Okay, so we put we put Battle 0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.279 Rappers all in the house and they all battled each other, 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:09.320 battled their way this event to this big event. This 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:13.279 is a you know, you remember, I'm terrible with years, 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:20.120 man was I know I was sober. I know I 0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:24.120 was sober. I remember, I remember because I remember. If 0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:29.480 I wasn't sober, I wouldn't remember. Um, I can't remember 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:32.759 exactly what year was, but um, I'm pretty sure y'all 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:36.360 can fact checking and just on the screen. But it 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.759 was everything was leading to this big event which was 0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:44.319 loaded lux Verse Murder muk too, you know what I'm saying, 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.240 which was the follow up to a super super classic, 0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:51.279 super super classic battle in battle Rap history. And I 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.960 believe we both times. Yeah, we put it in. We 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:55.920 put it in. Um, we put it on pay per 0:56:56.000 --> 0:57:01.000 view and it was oh, I'm sorry, button hollow as well. 0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.120 Do listen, I listen, Joe, You're a man. Do not 0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:07.040 get a step in that battle arena again. I was 0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:09.160 very embarrassed. People to Mike, damn you don't think he 0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:11.880 did well. He did that, you know, I can't, shouldn't 0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:13.480 he just shouldn't have put the mic down. You know 0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:18.760 what it is. He's a virgo virgo and we're very annoyed. 0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:22.000 But the thing about it is our power is not 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.200 showing re annoyed. Right, he showed he was annoyed that 0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:28.360 day and he lost from that moment. The thing is 0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:30.760 that that's the thing is like you ever noticed, he 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:33.440 ever noticed when a battle rapper is battling, they'd be like, 0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:37.000 let me cook, let me cook, let me, let me, 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.800 let me relieve it, let me work, let me work, 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:43.360 let me work. That's said that distracted him. The crowd 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:46.240 is distracted him. But that's the way of saying I'm 0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:49.280 not being distracted back. But now listen to that same 0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:53.840 person saying you chill, y'all. That's not the same confidence. 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:58.800 If y'all, if y'all, don't shut it up about now, 0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:04.200 every tetop, Okay, y t toop did this thing. Man 0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:07.680 tetop did this thing. But you know so, um, I don't. 0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:09.080 I don't think. And I heard you say this the 0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.200 other day, and I think that's it's funny. I think 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:14.560 Joe is better at this profession that he is at rapping. 0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:20.200 He was a damn good rapper to lys top Ti lyrics, 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.280 and you know he did all right at at the 0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:24.040 battle rapping thing. But in terms of no, no, no, 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:25.840 no no, let's let's stop, let's stop, let's not be 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.840 nice about that. Let's let's just be clear, let's just 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:31.680 be clear. I'm sorry, he's my friend. Let's just agree 0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:37.400 on this in terms of rapping, terms of rapping, rapping, Yeah, 0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:39.800 that's like what I'm saying. Like, listen, I make great 0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:42.120 party wrappers, I make great regor, but you get me 0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:44.480 to be scoop and scrap, I'm not gonna be good. 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:46.160 I'm not gonna I don't know how to do the 0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.080 kid and play like. I don't know how to do that. 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:50.080 So now I can't. I can't, you know what. Let's 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:51.840 just be clear. I can do I can wrap, but 0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.680 I can't dance. And I'll tell you something else. I'll 0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:56.160 tell you something. I don't really get a lot the 0:58:56.200 --> 0:59:00.080 with them. I got about four steps in me and 0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:02.520 that's it. Family, not gonna be happy, but but I 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:06.600 got to my my, my, my two to mean steps 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.040 to two steps. It's so mean. You ain't never gonna 0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.240 catch you on You ain't never gonna catch up. No. 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.760 Flocker recently just said he he said he was a 0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:17.440 whack rapper. I disagree with him. I disagree to I 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:19.640 disagree with him, but he said he got to the 0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:23.000 level Do you think that's that's possible nowadays where people 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:25.040 could come into this game knowing that they don't that 0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:27.560 I don't think in Rocker's case, I don't agree with them, 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:30.280 But I'm just saying, dude, there's so many people that 0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:32.680 are coming in this game now and they say, well, 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:35.200 I'm gonna just be like a French Montana will just 0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.400 be like all They'll say, like a Jim Jones or 0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:41.400 something like that, as if French Montana or Jim Jones 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:43.880 didn't bust. They asked were they're trying to say? It's 0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:48.240 people that you know, not spending fifteen million hours on lyrics. 0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:51.560 But do you think that as artists nowadays that does 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:53.800 that that they've actually come into this game just for 0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.920 the money, and then that's that. I think it's just 0:59:57.040 --> 1:00:01.320 about it's about knowing. Goes back to the self defining 1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:03.520 thing that I'm talking about. It goes back to just 1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:06.920 knowing you and then playing to your strengths. You know, 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:10.200 everybody is not a super technical lyrical miracle m C. 1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:16.760 You know, and Walker, Walker just he played to his strengths. Now, 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:20.360 I heard songs where he was bussing, when he was 1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:24.480 straight up bussing, But it seems like he made he 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:27.760 made his mind up like Okay, this is what I'm 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:32.200 gonna do, and I'm gonna pursue it relentlessly and nobody's 1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:34.640 gonna stop me. And that's exactly what happened. Honest. See 1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:37.360 what he meant he said compared to his favorite rappers, 1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:44.160 he you know, comed him paying respect. That's just can't 1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:46.560 say Walker's whack. I ain't gonna he probably what he 1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:48.840 probably means by this ship. If I'm not gonna be 1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:51.320 the best at that, then I'm just gonna do this 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:54.800 because he's He's great at what he did. But I 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:57.880 don't necessarily, I don't necessarily believe that lyrics is the 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:01.200 only thing that hardest. Were the best lyricists there were 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:06.000 that the flow to me, to me, Biggie's flow. He 1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:10.040 had lyrics, but it was his flow that that made 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:14.600 you gravitates us. It's a master, it's a master. It's 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:17.400 a masterful way to do many things, many things with 1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:20.320 the rapping ship. You know what I'm saying, like, um, 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:24.280 geezy Geezy to me is a lyricist. He just hides it. 1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:26.840 He hides it in his wag, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:29.320 It's just he has a way of reaching you. He 1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:32.360 has he has a way of getting directly to his 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:35.120 points without using a whole lot of words. And he 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:37.439 does it in a way where his inflictions he knows 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:40.160 where to put them at in terms of the core 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:42.400 progression and ship like that is genius. The way he 1:01:42.480 --> 1:01:44.640 does it, it's just not right in your face, the 1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:46.720 technical part of it. It's just not right in your face, 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:49.800 you know what I mean. He has the ability, you know, 1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:52.920 it's his ability. His ability is through the roof. It's 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:55.240 through the roof. Is just done a different ways. The 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:59.840 cat I haven't. I haven't, but um it's kind of 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:02.800 Is she the one who made the cow song? The 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:06.480 cow song? Let's google that. Google that. I'm not sure 1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:14.080 the cow song? Right that? That ship chips going right 1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:19.720 now you ask the question? Come on to a much 1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:24.520 more with the chair, get another chap? Have we gotta 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:29.600 set up so what's going on with mother? Was holding on? 1:02:30.760 --> 1:02:35.920 No drinking and you never smoked the drink. Yeah, you 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:38.440 used to be back in the days, and it was 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:44.640 one of the perfect pills too. Listen, man, I'm not 1:02:44.680 --> 1:02:47.479 gonna lie. That was the only the only Like damn, 1:02:47.480 --> 1:02:49.000 I am I going to my exec days right now 1:02:51.520 --> 1:02:53.760 that I know that's bad for you, But I just 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:59.760 like that's fucked up, like like I actually was saving marriages. 1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:04.920 And one point lies, I ain't never heard that up 1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:10.480 said after the war war war just in my mind, man, 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:14.400 see that. I want to know what war seen my 1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:18.680 mind as a war. Man. Listen, listen, because probably helped couples. Yeah, 1:03:19.120 --> 1:03:25.000 your ecstacy, No listen, listen, maybe you can. But yeah, 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:29.080 one person, it's a problem. It's gonna be a c 1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:32.680 they gonna be. But this is what I heard. Ecstacy 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:36.280 was made for people having mad up is the original 1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:38.840 reason why it was made. Yeah, listen man, I'm just 1:03:38.920 --> 1:03:42.640 being honest man. Yeah, yeah, because because you know, like 1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:45.120 if you ever seen your boy ecstasy, like he'll just 1:03:45.200 --> 1:03:50.760 be like man, this person because the same ship. But yeah, 1:03:50.760 --> 1:03:54.120 I'm gonna lie, like the detwelve like like that to 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:55.960 all I felt like y'all did a lot of drugs, 1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:57.360 and I just felt like I should have been there 1:03:57.440 --> 1:04:00.560 with y'all at that time. At that time, No, man, 1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:02.800 I don't know how much, how much how much asked 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:06.000 what y'all getting and it was college it was it 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:08.200 was that was like college ship. He was getting white 1:04:08.200 --> 1:04:12.920 girl one wi like, yeah, I was getting the bitches right. 1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:20.280 It's just too much, too much what I mean, I 1:04:20.320 --> 1:04:21.920 don't know. It was like it was just we was 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:26.360 kids kids, So I just felt like wild ass parties 1:04:26.400 --> 1:04:36.480 every so um after um Proof what what what? Because 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:43.120 everyone sit back and uh, And I believe M said 1:04:43.160 --> 1:04:45.920 it on the record he said, um, truth is and 1:04:46.000 --> 1:04:50.080 Proof died, so did the group. But a lot of 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:51.959 people say it's even deeper than that, like it's saying 1:04:52.000 --> 1:04:56.000 a part of the Detroit die when Proof died? What 1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:58.479 do you what? Do you guys feel like that? Yeah, 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:01.880 But I also feel like I think a lot of 1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:05.960 that when that happened, you gotta think that the again, 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:09.000 in star power of who M was, who M is, 1:05:09.960 --> 1:05:13.840 that overshadowed everybody grief too, And like a lot of 1:05:13.880 --> 1:05:15.840 people didn't get to you know, it was like it 1:05:15.960 --> 1:05:20.720 became about him and how he was grieving and yeah, yeah, 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:23.000 so you know you kind of missed A lot of 1:05:23.080 --> 1:05:25.680 people might have missed it. A proof was so important, 1:05:26.760 --> 1:05:29.480 you know, it just got overshadowed by that, which is 1:05:29.520 --> 1:05:33.920 something that happened when somebody that big, but it was 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:37.800 for me. I felt like that. It was like everybody 1:05:37.920 --> 1:05:40.680 was going through their own thing individually, but you couldn't 1:05:40.720 --> 1:05:44.520 really go through it without getting Oh man, I know 1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:47.200 him funked up. I know, you know, like that just 1:05:47.360 --> 1:05:49.840 made me not It just made me get away from it. 1:05:49.920 --> 1:05:51.600 But I was coming once the once that happened, I 1:05:51.680 --> 1:05:55.800 was done. I was done. No, just with the group ship. 1:05:55.840 --> 1:06:00.040 I couldn't. I tried, but I couldn't really keep going on, 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:03.160 you know the end of it. Basically, Yeah, I mean business. 1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:06.920 You gotta think business people handle business differently. And I 1:06:07.120 --> 1:06:11.920 was affected a lot in it because every time I 1:06:11.960 --> 1:06:14.520 would do something, produce for somebody else, or do something, 1:06:14.760 --> 1:06:17.440 it was going back to recouping the deal that we 1:06:17.680 --> 1:06:20.200 was in as a group. And so when I tried 1:06:20.240 --> 1:06:22.040 to go my own way and do that, it was 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:24.160 like they didn't understand why I wanted to do it. 1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:27.800 But that's what happened. And you and you improve y'all. 1:06:28.080 --> 1:06:30.160 Yeah you got arrested after Like, yeah, I pulled up. 1:06:31.360 --> 1:06:35.280 Damn your Mike is there? You got you gotta forgot 1:06:35.320 --> 1:06:44.160 pe infection on the ship. I forgot first. I ain't 1:06:44.160 --> 1:06:47.000 even trust ourselves, like let's do it's a guy. But 1:06:47.840 --> 1:06:51.240 so then, how did you work that situation up? We're 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:55.000 been jailed together and get out of here. He pulled 1:06:55.000 --> 1:07:04.720 out on each other, the dog with the jacket. I 1:07:04.880 --> 1:07:06.440 was in the sale. I was in the sale and 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:08.040 he was in the sale. Next ye mean we're talking 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:11.240 to each other through the wall and this is jail 1:07:11.320 --> 1:07:20.760 for each other. The wall um Proof was Proof was 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:25.000 like he's such a dynamic individual. Man. He was having 1:07:25.120 --> 1:07:29.160 like the phone was ringing off the hook, different lawyers calling. 1:07:29.560 --> 1:07:31.360 What I was saying, This nigger had all kind of 1:07:31.480 --> 1:07:33.919 food being brought in and you know what I'm saying. 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:36.280 Like it was like it was like crazy. He was 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:38.520 actually the reason why I got out so fast because 1:07:38.560 --> 1:07:40.840 it was like he was he was bringing too much 1:07:41.040 --> 1:07:44.120 attention to the like the pre sinking ship. Did you 1:07:44.200 --> 1:07:46.520 notice he was like bringing too much attention to the precinct. 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:47.920 They just let us out. They were just like, man, 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:51.000 we let y'all out. I think I heard you know 1:07:51.040 --> 1:07:52.680 what I'm saying. So it was like, but we we 1:07:52.760 --> 1:07:56.320 were able to talk and just really put things in perspective, 1:07:56.360 --> 1:07:59.280 and that was like early on I think I learned 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:02.920 the words of communication just by going through that with him, 1:08:03.240 --> 1:08:06.000 because like how deep we were into the ship, you 1:08:06.040 --> 1:08:07.600 know what I'm saying, And then how we were able 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:09.520 to just nip it in the bud just that fast, 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:13.200 just talking, you know, because right before we got arrested, 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:16.280 you know, it got tense. It could have went one 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:19.200 of one of two ways, you know what I'm saying. 1:08:19.280 --> 1:08:21.120 So for us to be able to nip that in 1:08:21.160 --> 1:08:23.880 the bud that fast, and then for me and this 1:08:24.000 --> 1:08:26.160 man to get as close as we ended up being 1:08:26.280 --> 1:08:30.200 after it just it's a testament to you have to 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:34.160 find resolution, and then you have to also realize how 1:08:35.200 --> 1:08:38.120 powerful we are as a collective. The things that me 1:08:38.240 --> 1:08:41.120 and this man can do in the studio together, it's 1:08:41.240 --> 1:08:44.519 way more valuable than any type of energy we can 1:08:44.600 --> 1:08:48.640 cross being negative toward each other, you know what I mean? Now, 1:08:48.720 --> 1:08:53.320 what's the difference? Um uh? Because Drey was up front 1:08:53.360 --> 1:08:55.360 about it and Puff was up front about it, what's 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:57.760 the difference between like you writing around for Diddy or 1:08:57.800 --> 1:09:02.320 you writing around for dre uh did he did? He 1:09:02.479 --> 1:09:05.200 is way more picky, well, at least at that moment, 1:09:06.280 --> 1:09:10.040 Jack obviously, because I'm here, I'm hearing, I'm hearing the dres. 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:16.160 Is he real picky now? Because back then and I 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:19.000 when I was working with him on that Chronic on 1:09:19.040 --> 1:09:22.360 the Chronic album, he wasn't. Really, he wasn't as picky 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:25.760 as Puff. I've never been in the studio with somebody 1:09:25.840 --> 1:09:28.600 as picky as Puff. Playboy put that thing on that 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:33.280 Playboy just made me write first over and over and 1:09:33.479 --> 1:09:36.560 over and over. And I just walked away from that 1:09:36.680 --> 1:09:40.040 situation learning so much because it was up until I 1:09:40.160 --> 1:09:42.880 worked with Puff that I never rewrote my own raps. 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:46.160 So this nigga made me rewrite the same rap so 1:09:46.240 --> 1:09:48.240 many times. I'm thinking to myself, like, wait a minute, 1:09:49.520 --> 1:09:51.880 am I not putting the same effort into my own ship? 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:56.559 So what pup project are we talking about? People like yeah, 1:09:56.600 --> 1:09:59.439 I wrote tell Me with Christina Agiley, so so, and 1:09:59.479 --> 1:10:09.479 then how was and you wrote Kanye Ship. I was trying, 1:10:09.560 --> 1:10:17.400 I was trying to look at that crazous. I felt 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:20.240 my eyes and started like get funny and he looked 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:23.040 that day, I gotta let it go. But um, but 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:26.559 that's a beautiful thing. I think. One of my favorite rappers, 1:10:27.479 --> 1:10:31.240 Easy Easy on the Record, said, I didn't realize this. 1:10:31.439 --> 1:10:34.000 Twenty years later he said, I s Q right, surrise 1:10:34.360 --> 1:10:36.639 that I say, and I was like, oh ship. Three 1:10:36.760 --> 1:10:38.560 years later I was like, what the fun he was? 1:10:38.600 --> 1:10:43.280 I listening to the businessman talking, Yeah, I've been businessman. 1:10:44.240 --> 1:10:49.559 What what makes what makes them different from Drake? From Drake? Yeah, Um, 1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:52.719 I don't I don't think it's much of a difference. 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:57.400 I mean Drake to me, it'd be hard for me 1:10:57.600 --> 1:11:00.280 to like put a finger on exactly what Drake is 1:11:00.439 --> 1:11:03.320 in that conversation because I don't know. He's an R 1:11:03.360 --> 1:11:05.360 and B singer. Don't R and B singers get away 1:11:05.400 --> 1:11:09.200 with that. But you're trying to say that, I don't 1:11:09.200 --> 1:11:13.519 want somebody else write about how much? How much is 1:11:14.160 --> 1:11:16.360 other people? Right? Because when I've seen Drake interviews, he 1:11:16.479 --> 1:11:19.080 pretty much he said he write pretty much everything. And 1:11:19.160 --> 1:11:23.680 he took some ideas we need to go fund me 1:11:23.720 --> 1:11:27.200 for good, like we need to go fund me not 1:11:27.720 --> 1:11:30.040 fun like money, like he need to have some fun 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:32.519 like that. I think you need to go to a 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:36.000 dream park or something like great adventures like that. That 1:11:36.520 --> 1:11:39.080 it was a little sad, bro I apologize when you 1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:40.840 look at it from his perspective, the way he was 1:11:40.880 --> 1:11:43.800 saying that, I was like, damn, that's his perspective is perspective. 1:11:44.760 --> 1:11:47.600 I understand where he's coming from in that sense. I 1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:52.439 just you know what the thing is this if you've 1:11:52.520 --> 1:11:55.880 never been a casual to a war like sometimes you like, 1:11:56.280 --> 1:11:57.800 I've been a casualt to you a war, I've been 1:11:57.840 --> 1:12:00.439 in a place where a person used me and then 1:12:00.520 --> 1:12:03.320 they they and I understand it. You know what I'm saying. 1:12:03.320 --> 1:12:05.320 I understand. I understood where I had to be at 1:12:05.360 --> 1:12:09.120 that moment. It's not in this level. It's not in 1:12:09.280 --> 1:12:11.760 this level like this level like when I seen him 1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:14.800 and it was what m if you're reading this, it's 1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:17.479 too late. And he was saying that everyone's posting a 1:12:17.640 --> 1:12:21.720 plaques and everyone's collateral damage. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:23.960 I would hope that they reach out to him, because 1:12:23.960 --> 1:12:26.720 I mean, both of them at this point they're cool. Yeah, 1:12:26.880 --> 1:12:29.560 but how would they do that? Was he being with 1:12:29.640 --> 1:12:32.960 them too? That? No? No, what it was. What it 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:37.120 was was Woma has it woman? Has it. This is 1:12:37.280 --> 1:12:41.400 all what do they call it? Um here saying what 1:12:41.479 --> 1:12:44.720 do they say? Um? So the speculation though, um all 1:12:45.560 --> 1:12:52.679 allegedly all allegedly allegedly Meek DJ Drama cool people both 1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:56.559 from Philadelphia meet, goes to Atlanta see his this record 1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:00.920 a couple of weeks later. Is that same record he 1:13:01.080 --> 1:13:03.720 heard with this other dude spitting on the radio and 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:05.759 that happens to be Drake that spit in these lines, 1:13:07.560 --> 1:13:12.599 Meek has that in his mind. Whatever happens, I think 1:13:12.680 --> 1:13:14.400 Drake is supposed to come out to the concert with him, 1:13:14.479 --> 1:13:17.920 he doesn't come out me. That's when me does the 1:13:18.120 --> 1:13:21.200 thing on Twitter or whatever. This is all allegedly, right 1:13:21.840 --> 1:13:25.360 Boom Quittin Millers caught up in this now they all 1:13:25.439 --> 1:13:27.920 did because because you know, no one else later on 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:30.200 we found out of this DJ Drama people say that. 1:13:30.640 --> 1:13:33.880 People say allegedly that because Drake was messing with one 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:36.360 of the DJ Drama's girls, that he's no longer with maw. 1:13:36.960 --> 1:13:39.120 So this is why D Drama owes us this story. 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:43.519 He has to come on here. Um. But so during 1:13:43.560 --> 1:13:47.800 the whole process, Quentin Miller's court in the process. At first, 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:49.720 it looks like yo dude, you get you get what 1:13:49.880 --> 1:13:52.680 you get, right, you get what you get. You use 1:13:52.760 --> 1:14:01.200 on that side, that side, then the side squatss to be. Yeah, 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:03.439 I don't know whose ring is that is, but you 1:14:03.520 --> 1:14:09.160 gotta grow up. You gotta get out. You gotta get out. 1:14:09.160 --> 1:14:12.559 The toys arrest man, that's the Dominican barber. That's that's 1:14:12.600 --> 1:14:15.000 to us close man, toys arrest isn't even over no more. 1:14:15.439 --> 1:14:21.920 But yeah, I mean quitting, Um, I listened. I've been 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:24.800 the war, like for twenty years. I'm doing different types 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:27.439 of war. I never feel sorry for a person they 1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:30.040 get caught in collaidal with damage or this is my 1:14:30.280 --> 1:14:34.000 first time when I've seen him like he didn't even 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:35.960 have nobody feeling for him, Like it was a selfie 1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:38.320 like you know what I'm saying, Like you know what 1:14:38.400 --> 1:14:39.840 I mean, Like I don't mean it like like you know, 1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:42.920 but he was like he just I think he looked 1:14:42.960 --> 1:14:44.920 depressed though, and it was snow, but I feel like 1:14:44.960 --> 1:14:49.240 he has shorts on. Doesn't worried me the most, really depressed, 1:14:49.360 --> 1:14:51.840 like he didn't look happy. It was not a happy 1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:53.479 thing from Yeah, I kind of agree with you, and 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:56.120 that's like that's the kind of ship to me today. 1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:59.479 That worry me, like about a lot of arts. But 1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:02.320 that's what see you know. But that's the difference between 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:07.599 you working with Dr Dre and a puff where pretty 1:15:07.680 --> 1:15:11.360 much upfront about it, and then you're working with a 1:15:11.439 --> 1:15:13.880 person because a lot of people that's that's how a 1:15:13.920 --> 1:15:16.439 lot of people probably fail. It's like, yo, if I'm 1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:20.320 gonna let you give me a couple of bars, that's 1:15:20.360 --> 1:15:24.479 between us. So this was like the first ghostwriter that 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:29.599 was that was labeled a ghost because most the definition 1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:31.840 the ghost is you don't really know what the funk 1:15:31.880 --> 1:15:33.880 it is, you know what I'm saying. So this is 1:15:33.960 --> 1:15:38.080 the first ghost writer that we've we found out and 1:15:38.120 --> 1:15:41.040 it's for a big artist because I never knew. I 1:15:41.160 --> 1:15:47.760 never knew any ghost writers. I never Yeah, but who 1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:56.479 didn't like for I knew he wrote for let's not 1:15:56.600 --> 1:15:58.639 be clear, let's not let's not act like we didn't 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:05.240 see produces ghost produced as well. Yeah, coming so many 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:08.439 times that I was like, you know, got an L. S. 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:14.880 B or got a Kirk Gotti bet and track masters 1:16:14.920 --> 1:16:18.519 to me on my on my ships never came to 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:20.760 the student session. I don't know what they deal becausists 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:22.800 of I don't know how that worked, but I know 1:16:23.000 --> 1:16:25.880 that you know what I'm saying. And to me, that 1:16:26.040 --> 1:16:29.280 was ghost producing. I think the production thing is a 1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:31.560 little bit more blurry though, because the producer be like, no, 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:34.680 it's gonna workload and then I'm gonna I'm gonna pick 1:16:34.720 --> 1:16:38.040 out things and to me, I got to disagree with you. 1:16:38.160 --> 1:16:40.320 To me, it's a little bit more fouldent because at 1:16:40.400 --> 1:16:44.800 least it's that artist you know saying it, but a 1:16:44.880 --> 1:16:47.320 producer is not even getting the credit. Well, I mean 1:16:47.360 --> 1:16:48.880 that's the thing, Like if you always make sure the 1:16:48.920 --> 1:16:51.519 person get the credit, the problem is that person is 1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:53.880 getting the credit, they probably have a problem with it. 1:16:54.800 --> 1:16:57.880 Later you can have that agreement and then they come 1:16:57.920 --> 1:17:01.760 back and be like it's like but if you're doing 1:17:01.840 --> 1:17:03.320 that and you're going out of your way. Back then, 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:06.479 credit was everything, right, that's all you want. Now today 1:17:06.520 --> 1:17:08.720 you don't know who the funk did what unless you 1:17:08.800 --> 1:17:14.280 got women once a more those there's a lot of 1:17:14.360 --> 1:17:17.559 that to go on with those two. Like I mean 1:17:17.680 --> 1:17:20.200 not saying they're faking the tax, but they have whole 1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:24.320 units of people. It's not like just one person, Like 1:17:24.479 --> 1:17:25.920 I know, I know a lot of the dudes that 1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:27.800 do it, like they make a million beat today, but 1:17:27.920 --> 1:17:30.479 like sometimes they still work or they collabor a lot 1:17:30.520 --> 1:17:32.719 with a lot of other you know, to producers today, 1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:36.639 it's never just one thing. To me, it's like there'll 1:17:36.640 --> 1:17:39.160 be a lot of people in the room. Sometimes you know, 1:17:41.880 --> 1:17:45.519 it's bad. It's bad when the person the beats and 1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:49.280 all the producer who's quote unquote producing all, he's doing 1:17:49.320 --> 1:17:55.479 his drops. Sometimes production is being a conductor. Yep. And 1:17:55.520 --> 1:17:58.679 that's what people don't understand. That's actually the original producer. 1:17:59.080 --> 1:18:01.800 It is the conducer of a band. A lot of 1:18:01.840 --> 1:18:04.559 people didn't say this band of sound and I am 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:07.519 the producer a lot of producers. There's Whoopoff made magic 1:18:07.600 --> 1:18:11.679 with a lot of producers. Is a producer magic producer. 1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:14.519 It was with earth Gotti, may Magic with them as 1:18:14.520 --> 1:18:16.360 soon as earth Gotti, as soon as Drey, as soon 1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:18.840 as Paul left them. I'm saying reducing those are the 1:18:19.520 --> 1:18:22.120 saying it's a deal because under that when they were 1:18:22.160 --> 1:18:25.160 doing it, everybody was fine with the situation. But when 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:28.320 those records take off, then they're like, he's not the producer. 1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:34.760 That's that's right, right, that's actually that's that's when it's corny. Yeah, 1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:37.559 what what's what's easier for This question goes to both 1:18:37.600 --> 1:18:41.200 for y'all, because there's there's this, there's there's beatmakers, and 1:18:41.280 --> 1:18:45.600 then there's producers. Like I always credit for Rall but 1:18:45.760 --> 1:18:49.120 being my first production I had, I had beats before, 1:18:49.720 --> 1:18:51.439 but for Wrell came to me and was like, just 1:18:51.600 --> 1:18:54.880 give me the rhymes. That was and I had the 1:18:54.960 --> 1:18:57.719 rhymes and he did every fucking thing. Whoever whisper with blacks. 1:18:58.040 --> 1:19:01.320 But what's the difference to y'all, what is easier for 1:19:01.400 --> 1:19:04.320 you to work with a person who's producing the beat? 1:19:04.720 --> 1:19:06.800 Are just doing a beat or a person who's actually 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:08.880 producing the record? It's dead for the hook there for 1:19:08.960 --> 1:19:11.720 the and now as a producer, yeah, I mean I can. 1:19:12.680 --> 1:19:15.640 I consider myself a producer, so I could do both, like, 1:19:15.800 --> 1:19:17.799 but it's just it just has to be a producer 1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:21.680 that I trust. So if I'm working with him, I'll 1:19:21.720 --> 1:19:24.000 just give I can just give him the raps. I'm 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:26.920 good with that promote. I can just give him the wraps, 1:19:27.560 --> 1:19:30.040 you know, um if it's if it's um. The difference 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:32.600 to me is a beat maker just makes beats. That's it. 1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:36.840 Beat maker makes beats and and they're good too. I'm 1:19:36.880 --> 1:19:44.439 not trying to beat Let me let me just clarify that, 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:46.800 I'm not trying to sound dismissive at all, Like beat 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:52.680 makers are dope. I love beat makers. Beat makers. They 1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:55.479 can send beats all day and we can take them. 1:19:55.520 --> 1:19:57.400 It's a different part of the process. Yes, it's just 1:19:57.439 --> 1:19:59.840 a different part of the process. A producer seats to 1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:04.320 all the way through, so somebody like him or somebody 1:20:04.439 --> 1:20:07.120 like me can come into the room and we may 1:20:07.200 --> 1:20:10.920 take something away from it that may make it what 1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:13.760 it needs to be. It's just knowing how to get 1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:16.719 it there. That's it. Everybody start out and when you start, 1:20:16.960 --> 1:20:18.840 when you go in the studio, you're gonna start off 1:20:18.920 --> 1:20:21.680 just making beats. It's gonna be one thing that you're 1:20:21.720 --> 1:20:24.759 gonna gravitate towards and anything you start producing that idea 1:20:25.040 --> 1:20:27.479 more than something else. You spend more time on that 1:20:27.600 --> 1:20:31.439 one thing. Right, So I think everybody can do butth 1:20:31.520 --> 1:20:34.400 But when you say a beat maker, that's people that 1:20:34.479 --> 1:20:36.080 I think about when I go to something the beat 1:20:36.800 --> 1:20:42.479 to beat, uh, like showcases and stuff like that. That's 1:20:42.520 --> 1:20:44.560 what they do. They come into wow you in that 1:20:44.760 --> 1:20:47.040 first two You know what I'm saying, and that's it. 1:20:47.160 --> 1:20:49.160 They don't even think about the music and how a 1:20:49.240 --> 1:20:51.639 person gotta wrap over it. You don't know what party 1:20:51.720 --> 1:20:53.680 gonna wrap over none of that, Like I'll get it. 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:55.240 I used to give him a beat and we used 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:57.720 to Now we won't probably have those arguments be could 1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:00.280 I give him the beating in here give back? And 1:21:00.320 --> 1:21:02.760 it's like, man, why you wrap over that part? Yeah? 1:21:08.320 --> 1:21:09.840 Like I didn't know I was getting on the nerves 1:21:09.880 --> 1:21:14.240 when I was doing that. I realized that until he 1:21:14.320 --> 1:21:17.240 started happening to produce for Marshall and I get him 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:18.800 a beating. He took it and flipped it all around 1:21:18.840 --> 1:21:24.439 and made it and I heard it like whoa, But 1:21:24.720 --> 1:21:27.479 so now I know what are he's talking about. If 1:21:27.520 --> 1:21:29.960 you start off with just some people start off they 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:32.840 just making peace. But until they learned, until somebody turned 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:35.280 out enough music from him, was like, let's say they 1:21:35.320 --> 1:21:37.280 get your beating, you don't rep on and it's like, damn, man, 1:21:37.320 --> 1:21:41.960 why ain't it landing Because you're not producing it for somebody, 1:21:42.000 --> 1:21:45.080 You're not leaving space for him. You're just trying to 1:21:45.120 --> 1:21:49.840 show off. Like I love the idea, but you know, 1:21:49.880 --> 1:21:53.080 I might take the idea and turn it into whatever. 1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:55.400 You know, you might break it down and give it 1:21:55.479 --> 1:21:57.680 to a person and arrange it the right way. You 1:21:57.760 --> 1:22:01.400 might change something slight as and sneering something. Those things matter, 1:22:01.600 --> 1:22:05.599 The little things matter. So just depending on the person 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:08.799 and who you're getting from. There's a lot of beat makers, 1:22:08.880 --> 1:22:13.000 but producers, it ain't a lot of that going on. 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:16.760 It ain't a lot of that going on. You could tell. Yeah, 1:22:16.800 --> 1:22:18.479 it feels that way too, because a lot of the 1:22:18.479 --> 1:22:21.080 records wouldn't sign the same producers help with the artist 1:22:21.160 --> 1:22:23.880 development too. I think that's a that's another element that's missing, 1:22:24.360 --> 1:22:26.720 the whole artist development. That's that's what I'm drying back 1:22:26.720 --> 1:22:30.800 to the game. Should we need to work together? Yeah, 1:22:30.840 --> 1:22:33.120 I want to. I wanna um. I want to help 1:22:33.280 --> 1:22:36.600 round artists. That's all we're trying to do. Yeah, like 1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:40.320 you know what I'm saying, like because I mean, sorry 1:22:40.439 --> 1:22:42.880 like to say this and like, you know, sorry to 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:45.120 bring this up, but you know, everyone rest in piece 1:22:45.160 --> 1:22:47.320 to pop smoke. You know what I'm saying. Let's have 1:22:47.400 --> 1:22:49.280 a moment of silence. If your guys are back there, 1:22:49.360 --> 1:22:52.320 let's don't let's don't move for at least eight seconds. 1:22:52.360 --> 1:23:00.360 For Kobe, you know, I mean recipes Kobe of speech 1:23:00.400 --> 1:23:02.800 prop smoke, But it was something that hit me about 1:23:02.840 --> 1:23:07.920 pop Smoke was I've been going to those Hollywood hills 1:23:08.520 --> 1:23:11.479 like where that should happened for twenty years. We only 1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:14.920 rent those places for parties. We do not rent those 1:23:14.960 --> 1:23:18.479 places to stay to live there, to live there. So 1:23:18.920 --> 1:23:22.840 I felt like, you know, that's why young homies, you 1:23:22.920 --> 1:23:25.400 should reach out to your ogs, you know what I'm saying, 1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:27.200 Like he could have hit a person like Buster, and 1:23:27.240 --> 1:23:29.920 Buster would have told him a meeting like yo, you listen, man, 1:23:29.960 --> 1:23:32.560 that's that's cool to kill there. But you know, it 1:23:32.840 --> 1:23:35.640 didn't necessarily have to be meat, didn't necessarily have to 1:23:35.720 --> 1:23:38.680 be you know, but bust the rhymes a fact, Joe, Like, 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:41.080 there's people that could tell you I'm saying, especially being 1:23:41.120 --> 1:23:43.479 from New York, Like, that's why you know, it's important 1:23:43.479 --> 1:23:46.639 you guys with a t grizzy situation because he should 1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:49.800 reach out for game for you like and especially because 1:23:49.800 --> 1:23:53.719 I don't I don't you know, our time we really 1:23:53.760 --> 1:23:56.160 didn't have drama like that. But the fact that's got 1:23:56.240 --> 1:23:59.240 to remember Biggie Smalls got killed from he was going 1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:01.799 out there, so we was taking precautions like I remember 1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:05.600 renting those mansions or renting those houses rather and not 1:24:05.720 --> 1:24:08.479 even staying there. Like we would literally rent there, have 1:24:08.560 --> 1:24:11.479 a taste makers meeting or whatever, have something, and then 1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:13.880 as soon as we would all break out, you know 1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:16.320 what I'm saying. So when I seen that now to 1:24:16.360 --> 1:24:18.360 say that that was the only thing that happened to Pops, 1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:20.200 because I don't want to you know what I mean. Um, 1:24:20.640 --> 1:24:23.240 but it was just it's just simple game like that 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:25.640 that we can help our young brothers with, you know 1:24:25.640 --> 1:24:27.720 what I'm saying, And um, I want to. I want 1:24:27.720 --> 1:24:30.120 to help do that. I want to help people transition 1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:33.360 from being just a rapper to being a personality, to 1:24:33.479 --> 1:24:38.479 being a podcaster to being h radio or someone on 1:24:38.640 --> 1:24:40.960 radio or something like that, because you know what, rap 1:24:41.240 --> 1:24:42.960 is a vehicle and the vehicle is not something you 1:24:42.960 --> 1:24:44.880 should live in. Vehicle is something to get you from 1:24:44.920 --> 1:24:52.280 one place to another. For that, I felt smart just now, 1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:55.799 I'm not drinking. The journey. It's a journey. The success 1:24:55.880 --> 1:24:58.200 is a journey. I've been telling my youngest this. This 1:24:58.400 --> 1:25:01.200 is the success is a journey. In the art itself 1:25:01.360 --> 1:25:03.439 is a destination. It's a place that you need to 1:25:03.600 --> 1:25:07.240 get to get to that place and just express yourself 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:09.599 and then through that all things are possible. You could 1:25:09.600 --> 1:25:12.400 do anything off of that platform. And you know what 1:25:12.439 --> 1:25:15.320 I noticed very starry to cut um change it up 1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:17.840 a little bit. You know, I notice the older we 1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:20.920 get and we're still successful, the easier it is for 1:25:21.000 --> 1:25:22.960 the youngest to listen to it. I feel like, the 1:25:23.040 --> 1:25:26.000 older we get and if we don't have that success, 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:28.680 that we don't have certain that's easy because I used 1:25:28.720 --> 1:25:30.240 to be like that when I was younger, Like who 1:25:30.640 --> 1:25:34.599 is that? Like you want to tell me what did 1:25:34.640 --> 1:25:36.559 he go platinum for? Like you know what I'm saying 1:25:36.560 --> 1:25:38.479 that you'd be saying, like dumb ship like that then. 1:25:38.920 --> 1:25:41.160 So that's the reason why I'm gonna be honest with you. 1:25:41.520 --> 1:25:43.280 That's the reason why I don't reach out to some 1:25:43.360 --> 1:25:47.320 of these young generation dudes, like because I figured myself 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:50.519 like when I first, um, I say this, I've said 1:25:50.520 --> 1:25:53.120 this before when I first met Walker Flocca and when 1:25:53.160 --> 1:25:55.479 I first met me, I didn't like them. But I 1:25:55.640 --> 1:25:58.120 realized I didn't like them because they reminded me of me, 1:25:59.160 --> 1:26:03.200 and I hate see twenty four year old met eight. 1:26:03.320 --> 1:26:05.120 I was like, what them like? You know what I'm saying, 1:26:05.160 --> 1:26:08.439 I was like, that's wild, Like, do you think do 1:26:08.600 --> 1:26:12.360 you think though that today that that is that we 1:26:12.800 --> 1:26:16.160 totally acted different though we treated like I was excited 1:26:16.200 --> 1:26:19.960 to me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah difference. It's like they're 1:26:19.960 --> 1:26:22.200 only excited to me. You think they're just excited to 1:26:22.280 --> 1:26:26.560 meet the people that I mean kind of kind of 1:26:26.720 --> 1:26:28.640 you know, I mean it kind of it kind of 1:26:29.080 --> 1:26:32.720 um damn. It kind of existed the fact that you know, 1:26:32.840 --> 1:26:35.840 we all old niggas godless of we want to you know, 1:26:35.880 --> 1:26:41.240 we're looking good, we're looking good, and so many other 1:26:41.280 --> 1:26:45.280 people like Kanye is actually older than me, but Kanye 1:26:45.400 --> 1:26:47.880 came out later than me, came out in that type 1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:52.200 of generation. So they look at Kanye like he's twenty 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.840 years younger than me, and they look at me like 1:26:54.920 --> 1:27:01.200 I'm nine hundred because I came out seven herb and seven. 1:27:01.240 --> 1:27:02.800 So they're like, what, you know, what I think they 1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:05.479 need to understand they should try to understand is that 1:27:06.280 --> 1:27:09.760 we don't have to care. That's where we could we 1:27:09.840 --> 1:27:11.400 could take it. We could take our money and just 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:13.400 go chill on the boat somewhere and be like we 1:27:13.479 --> 1:27:17.559 got y'all, stay in the trenches. You know what I mean, 1:27:17.880 --> 1:27:20.519 because I don't think it's a young man's game. I 1:27:22.640 --> 1:27:26.000 think I think, you know, but I don't even say 1:27:26.040 --> 1:27:27.680 because of that, I'm I'm talking about the way that 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:30.280 young people look at evolving. It's not a young man 1:27:30.360 --> 1:27:35.080 no no, but for them, the currency that matters is 1:27:35.439 --> 1:27:39.839 like s and follows. Like if this old lady is popping, 1:27:41.000 --> 1:27:44.400 she's the ship right now. So it's not a young 1:27:44.479 --> 1:27:47.760 man or young lady's game anymore. She's popping, So I 1:27:47.880 --> 1:27:51.559 want to take a photo with her, So that's what matters. Like, Yeah, 1:27:51.760 --> 1:27:54.200 that's what matters. That's what that's interesting though. Yeah, that's 1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:56.880 like that, that's what That's what we're having a hard 1:27:56.960 --> 1:28:00.360 time wrapping our heads around. But like all is the 1:28:00.439 --> 1:28:03.840 biggest R and B singer out right now, comedian, Yeah, 1:28:04.280 --> 1:28:08.160 this is real ship. Every fucking record he dropped I 1:28:08.400 --> 1:28:14.120 funk with Man, don't black Man, Don't cheat, um uh 1:28:14.600 --> 1:28:17.599 my ole bit, and then he got this other ship. 1:28:17.680 --> 1:28:20.320 I ain't even on this ship, but I look nasty. 1:28:20.600 --> 1:28:23.519 I'm like, what the fun people are making nasty videos 1:28:23.560 --> 1:28:27.360 and they got wild looking the nigga, looking at the nigga, nasty. 1:28:27.720 --> 1:28:31.559 Holy ship people. People, people are open to be entertained 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:36.800 in any anyways. Anyway, little Walls the biggest that Nigga 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:42.280 is like the new usher that little ball the new 1:28:42.400 --> 1:28:48.679 usher man. But but real quick, but back to everything 1:28:48.720 --> 1:28:51.800 we're talking about. And this is my opinion. I think 1:28:51.880 --> 1:28:55.679 that what you're doing and it's it's about us being 1:28:56.200 --> 1:28:59.840 comfortable in our skins and doing what we do and 1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:04.320 and artfully doing it and not thinking about what they're 1:29:04.360 --> 1:29:06.439 thinking about, which is the likes and the follows is 1:29:06.600 --> 1:29:09.920 what's where we're gonna We're gonna follow that lead. We 1:29:10.040 --> 1:29:11.640 need to be the O g s that we were 1:29:11.640 --> 1:29:17.000 supposed to be. That conversation, it's like, don't numbers and 1:29:17.040 --> 1:29:18.920 all that kind of should it just never mattered. It 1:29:19.040 --> 1:29:21.880 can't matter. It shouldn't matter. It shouldn't matter, man, don't matter. 1:29:22.320 --> 1:29:24.240 That's all they think about that. I mean, we gotta 1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:26.120 pay bills, if we gotta pay attention to all that ship. 1:29:26.479 --> 1:29:29.519 We gotta understand that it just happens. Though. Yeah, I 1:29:29.600 --> 1:29:31.920 got like, you know, friends, you know people that I do. 1:29:32.320 --> 1:29:35.360 You know I do things well, you know, and they'll 1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:37.439 still be like, can you follow me on the grams? 1:29:37.600 --> 1:29:46.639 Like you just asked me for Yeah, you already following 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:52.080 like me, this is the fun up world we're living in. 1:29:52.240 --> 1:29:54.760 You know, like this is it's currency. It literally is 1:29:55.680 --> 1:29:57.760 like when you think about it in that way, that's 1:29:57.800 --> 1:30:02.160 the currency. Listen, that's what they But we can't see 1:30:02.160 --> 1:30:03.880 it that way of coming from where we come from 1:30:04.120 --> 1:30:06.360 because you know why we was talking to move away 1:30:06.360 --> 1:30:09.040 from the cameras we were talking, not like if we 1:30:09.200 --> 1:30:11.639 really know people from our era, like the first five 1:30:11.720 --> 1:30:14.679 minutes of them being on camera it's uncomfortable, but they 1:30:14.800 --> 1:30:18.080 technically be looking like this like anybody that's really from 1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:20.800 like the nineties, that's really they're like the first five 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:23.720 seconds of them walking into something st pay attention, then 1:30:23.760 --> 1:30:26.200 looking at their head down because everything that they were 1:30:26.240 --> 1:30:30.559 towards said this is the you know, we're legal now, 1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:33.400 so that that it only takes five minutes, So that 1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:35.920 six minutes you're like, yo, motherfucker, you gotta get in here, 1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:38.719 you got do your job. But that first five minutes, 1:30:38.920 --> 1:30:40.960 that's that's why I know Meek is a real nigga's 1:30:41.120 --> 1:30:43.280 because if you look at Meek's interviews, like his first 1:30:43.360 --> 1:30:46.600 people like this, it's because he comes from that that 1:30:46.800 --> 1:30:48.760 like to stay right from the ship as opposed to this. 1:30:48.880 --> 1:30:50.840 Like I said, there's people that do things for the 1:30:50.840 --> 1:30:53.040 people are asking me for a favor. People will ask 1:30:53.120 --> 1:30:54.800 me to do this or ask me can they come 1:30:54.840 --> 1:30:56.800 over here? And I'll do it and I'll take a 1:30:56.840 --> 1:30:59.080 picture with them, and then they'll say, well, can you 1:30:59.200 --> 1:31:01.639 follow me on the girl phone? And I'm like, damn, 1:31:01.800 --> 1:31:05.439 my dude, like I followed you in real life. In 1:31:05.640 --> 1:31:10.439 real life, you just call gone. We had drinks in 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:14.160 my kitchen. When you have that, that's all that always 1:31:14.240 --> 1:31:17.000 bothered me. It's like, you don't like this, you don't 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:19.519 do this. You don't do this, like you got my 1:31:19.600 --> 1:31:23.439 phone number, just her favorite one. You don't even follow 1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:26.040 me on the ground like like like you deliberately not 1:31:27.000 --> 1:31:28.640 like I over that my phone is that I'm not 1:31:28.800 --> 1:31:34.400 following listening. You know, I just can't get around to it. 1:31:34.760 --> 1:31:37.240 You don't that you're not even gonna see the message. 1:31:37.240 --> 1:31:40.000 I ain't gonna see you. One of my holies, one 1:31:40.040 --> 1:31:42.400 of my tour of my homies, is arguing one day 1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:48.000 about me on my ground, about me. It's like, you know, 1:31:48.400 --> 1:31:50.479 he said, you know the homies. See you said, now, 1:31:50.520 --> 1:31:52.439 I don't think the Homiesee, you got so much followers. 1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:55.559 He said, you know, he got to see my name though, 1:31:55.720 --> 1:31:58.599 said listen, man, homies, you know, and I did see. 1:31:58.640 --> 1:32:02.200 It's like your comments. These things had a twelve day 1:32:02.320 --> 1:32:06.120 comments like you know, I'm looking like damn nigga. Now 1:32:06.160 --> 1:32:08.439 I'm not answering, you know, because I wanted to. I 1:32:08.479 --> 1:32:10.960 wanted to do the little hard and like you know, 1:32:11.120 --> 1:32:14.560 high watching like you know when they're talking, like I 1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:16.560 listened to it. I watched it. I said, you know what, 1:32:16.680 --> 1:32:19.800 other niggas just fight it out. I'll tell you. I'll 1:32:19.800 --> 1:32:22.400 tell you another thing I learned. I learned the hard 1:32:22.479 --> 1:32:26.479 way to following certain women on the Graham's cheating. Oh yeah, yeah, 1:32:26.520 --> 1:32:29.720 and like if you realized that, yeah, I didn't know that. 1:32:29.800 --> 1:32:34.240 I didn't know that. Wait a minute too, okay following brother, Okay, No, 1:32:34.400 --> 1:32:36.200 I knew that when you found it. Don't like a 1:32:36.280 --> 1:32:41.640 picture like like divorce, you got a pretty talking you 1:32:43.360 --> 1:32:48.320 you like it? This man copy minds with you here, 1:32:48.439 --> 1:32:50.400 like I didn't know that's like the new form of 1:32:50.520 --> 1:32:52.360 kid like. I didn't know that. First of all, I 1:32:52.360 --> 1:32:55.639 didn't know how the d M. I didn't I didn't 1:32:55.640 --> 1:32:57.680 and didn't know how to DM. No, I didn't know 1:32:57.760 --> 1:32:59.880 a DM. I didn't even know it was a whole. No, 1:33:00.080 --> 1:33:03.080 the that's a hold on the planet knows another DM 1:33:03.240 --> 1:33:08.519 in the DM what g and then primary, oh yeah 1:33:08.920 --> 1:33:12.400 got multiple MN ship. That ship I don't even get 1:33:12.600 --> 1:33:16.679 because well I found out every now and then because 1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:18.240 it'll be an artist that would hit me, or be 1:33:18.280 --> 1:33:20.240 a football player that would be like yo. And so 1:33:20.360 --> 1:33:21.880 every now and then I had to learn how to 1:33:21.960 --> 1:33:23.760 do that because someone wanted to see me in the 1:33:23.840 --> 1:33:26.760 club and it'll be like a real like like yo, 1:33:27.400 --> 1:33:30.960 and I'm like word, and I'm like, how about to 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:32.920 do this? And I'd like to do One thing you 1:33:32.960 --> 1:33:34.439 don't want to do is actually white how do you 1:33:34.479 --> 1:33:38.439 work to d M s Because it's like it's like 1:33:41.520 --> 1:33:43.640 figure it out, Like I was like, this is in 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:45.280 case of some accident. I don't want to do. You know, 1:33:45.360 --> 1:33:48.880 I don't know like it listen, ain't acting on it 1:33:48.920 --> 1:33:50.960 when you know everything and then you want to look 1:33:50.960 --> 1:33:54.040 and say alright, cool, this it on me. I still 1:33:54.080 --> 1:33:58.880 got it. It was. It makes it nor that it's not. 1:33:59.040 --> 1:34:02.800 But social media, like I always imagine Tupac with a 1:34:02.880 --> 1:34:08.760 Twitter man like man one of the East Coast, West Coast, 1:34:08.800 --> 1:34:11.479 because I think he wouldn't hear. I think he would 1:34:11.520 --> 1:34:14.320 have hated Instagram. I think Pun would have destroyed Instagram. 1:34:14.640 --> 1:34:17.840 He would have comedic. I think he was I think 1:34:18.080 --> 1:34:20.160 he would have been the main killer. I think Biggie 1:34:20.240 --> 1:34:27.519 Smalls would have been the thriller king TikTok, yeah something. 1:34:27.880 --> 1:34:33.080 Biggie was one of the most trendiest, funniest people ever hilarious. 1:34:35.360 --> 1:34:40.240 Pun Pun was big was like no hold on to 1:34:40.320 --> 1:34:44.720 be back. Big was was was fun because he was 1:34:44.800 --> 1:34:46.280 the first one, Like he was the first one I've 1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:48.519 ever seen it. So I felt like Pun took all 1:34:48.600 --> 1:34:51.280 the Biggie ship and took it and perfected it. Like 1:34:51.439 --> 1:34:53.920 Pun would really have water gun fights, but I'm talking 1:34:53.920 --> 1:34:57.920 about zero zero below in the morning, like like, like, 1:34:58.920 --> 1:35:00.920 listen to me, this is one of the fucking worst 1:35:00.920 --> 1:35:04.800 ship I've ever seen. They was running traders with these bitches. 1:35:06.600 --> 1:35:10.120 We want to find that. Hey man, it's running trisy 1:35:10.200 --> 1:35:12.439 business is on. This is on thirty second or twenty 1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:15.680 third Street like by Kelsea Dina And I don't know 1:35:15.800 --> 1:35:17.519 why they wanted to do this, but this is how 1:35:17.680 --> 1:35:21.519 it was in the nineties. So Pun stances two boys 1:35:21.680 --> 1:35:24.559 to fill up the super Squirter. But it's zero below 1:35:24.640 --> 1:35:28.160 outside Bro, this was the the Sprint of Vans. Before 1:35:28.160 --> 1:35:30.040 they was to Sprint of Vans. He was calling the 1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:35.040 fantastic right. So they jump off with the two girls 1:35:35.920 --> 1:35:38.600 and punting. Since this guys the load of the Supersquirter. 1:35:39.000 --> 1:35:41.280 But for some reason, I go off to smoke a cigarette. 1:35:41.320 --> 1:35:44.240 I smoked cigarettes there, and I see them loading up 1:35:44.280 --> 1:35:47.200 the supersquirter. The problem was they were loading up the 1:35:47.280 --> 1:35:54.360 super Squirriter with the snow slush. M hmm, foul. You know. 1:35:54.640 --> 1:36:00.080 I imagine there's some yellow snow. I can't visually see it, 1:36:00.840 --> 1:36:03.679 but so I looked, and this is when I knew 1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:07.400 I was officially a foul nigger because I was smoking 1:36:07.439 --> 1:36:09.320 a cigarette and I seen the girls coming out. I 1:36:09.360 --> 1:36:13.160 could have fully warned these bitches, like go the other way, 1:36:14.040 --> 1:36:20.719 but I wanted and everything. My mama heard. My mama 1:36:20.840 --> 1:36:23.600 telling me, boy, tell them, girls are going and I 1:36:23.720 --> 1:36:26.240 was like, Mama, let me just see this. And I 1:36:26.360 --> 1:36:30.280 stood there. I looked, and they didn't even talk to 1:36:30.360 --> 1:36:32.599 each other putting them. They just looked at each other 1:36:33.479 --> 1:36:38.519 and then chicks came out and they squirted up. And 1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:41.479 I'm telling you, it was so cold that her ship 1:36:41.640 --> 1:36:49.800 got icicles like her damn, And I was like, oh, 1:36:50.040 --> 1:36:52.559 and then she following around him. I got the ship 1:36:52.640 --> 1:36:55.920 on tape. It's terrible, Like it's terrible documentary. So you 1:36:56.120 --> 1:36:58.439 you forgot to mention that she were videotaping. Yes, I 1:36:58.520 --> 1:37:01.160 totally got that. More got told you I saw that 1:37:01.280 --> 1:37:04.360 was part of the whole process. I was mama and 1:37:04.560 --> 1:37:08.880 video table. I wasn't proud of it, but that's the 1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:10.560 ship that we used to do in the nineties. Like 1:37:10.640 --> 1:37:13.040 the nineties was just a totally different era. No one 1:37:13.240 --> 1:37:15.920 was telling y'all, this was none of this. Do you 1:37:16.080 --> 1:37:19.160 think a person like Sakashi sixth line would exist in 1:37:19.280 --> 1:37:23.760 this game? Then? I don't know if they would have 1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:27.080 been able to know, but I was around. But you 1:37:27.160 --> 1:37:28.560 know what, I'm gonna be honest, and I think me 1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:30.800 and Finn has admitted to this a couple of times, 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:34.120 not once. I think it's awful, not him per se, 1:37:34.680 --> 1:37:38.640 not him per se. But like I said earlier, like 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:40.400 I didn't really reach out to a lot of the 1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:44.439 young dudes. I really just didn't because I for a 1:37:44.560 --> 1:37:47.720 long time the older people in the hip hop at first, 1:37:47.800 --> 1:37:50.960 they really didn't accept me. They didn't embrace us. Like 1:37:51.040 --> 1:37:56.040 that because the older you know, the Mellie Miles, the 1:37:56.120 --> 1:37:59.880 Grand Master Flashes at first, and now that I'm not 1:38:00.120 --> 1:38:02.760 in their position, but now that I'm older, I see 1:38:03.080 --> 1:38:07.000 like like like I like Gazella Gazella the other day. Um, 1:38:07.240 --> 1:38:09.160 you know, we want them to get on. But you know, 1:38:09.760 --> 1:38:11.479 it's not like I gave him a trial period, but 1:38:11.520 --> 1:38:14.000 I wanted to make sure they was gonna be like 1:38:14.120 --> 1:38:16.479 and once they was there, like and I felt like, 1:38:16.600 --> 1:38:19.760 I feel like Mellie Mele grandmus to Flash cool heard. 1:38:19.840 --> 1:38:21.280 I feel like all of them kind of gave me 1:38:21.360 --> 1:38:23.400 that too. It kind of was like, I, homeboy, you 1:38:23.479 --> 1:38:25.920 got a great album, war report is good, boom all 1:38:25.960 --> 1:38:27.840 you came back with an R EO or what what? 1:38:28.000 --> 1:38:30.479 That's something different? But they made me and then once 1:38:30.600 --> 1:38:33.560 I said yo, I'm here. Once I then they embraced me. 1:38:34.200 --> 1:38:36.000 You know what I'm saying. But I felt like I 1:38:36.080 --> 1:38:38.240 felt like this whack. Let me tell you why. I 1:38:38.360 --> 1:38:41.000 feel like you should embrace everybody from them agin and 1:38:41.120 --> 1:38:43.040 then and I feel like it's oppously. I feel like 1:38:43.080 --> 1:38:45.639 we should brace everyone from the beginning. And then those 1:38:45.680 --> 1:38:50.120 person uh get their way out of that circle. They 1:38:50.200 --> 1:38:52.400 earned their way out of the circle, as opposed to say, 1:38:52.439 --> 1:38:53.600 you know what, I'm gonna keep you out of the 1:38:53.680 --> 1:38:57.280 circle until you you deserve yourself in and the way 1:38:57.400 --> 1:38:59.800 less mistakes because because you know what, I took on 1:39:00.000 --> 1:39:02.760 that thing, and I would look at certain artists and 1:39:02.840 --> 1:39:05.519 even drink chance. To a certain extent, this is only 1:39:05.560 --> 1:39:08.760 for people who've been here ten years. So um so 1:39:09.000 --> 1:39:12.280 so even it's to a certain extent, it's like I, um, 1:39:13.120 --> 1:39:15.320 we have to bid certain rules. We have to like 1:39:15.400 --> 1:39:17.519 if a person's here for seven years, you're putting in network, 1:39:17.560 --> 1:39:19.200 and I know you're gonna be here. You're here for 1:39:19.280 --> 1:39:21.080 five years, you put in net work, I know you're 1:39:21.120 --> 1:39:22.960 gonna be here. You gotta you gotta, you know what 1:39:23.000 --> 1:39:28.600 I mean. So but I think there's no but I 1:39:28.680 --> 1:39:31.240 think it was all. I think what the reason why 1:39:31.240 --> 1:39:33.800 I said is our fault is that when we grew 1:39:33.920 --> 1:39:37.479 up and saying the nineties era, early nineties, we wasn't 1:39:37.760 --> 1:39:39.880 like I didn't grow up in grad match flash Mellie 1:39:39.920 --> 1:39:42.920 mel Era, I didn't. We didn't dress like them. Actually 1:39:42.960 --> 1:39:45.280 that didn't era, do you know what I'm saying? But 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:47.160 that yeah, and even then. But but what I'm trying 1:39:47.200 --> 1:39:50.839 to say is the Arab right that we were listening 1:39:50.920 --> 1:39:54.800 to was bigging them up. And so we took them 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:57.760 and said, if you say that this is the way, 1:39:58.320 --> 1:40:00.800 then this is our pioneers, and we gotta respect this. 1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:05.519 And so when I said that what what our generation did, 1:40:05.560 --> 1:40:08.160 and I say, all, I'm not saying that I did this, DJ, 1:40:08.360 --> 1:40:10.080 I definitely didn't do this, you know what I'm saying. 1:40:10.120 --> 1:40:14.280 But I'm saying totality, we did not do the same 1:40:14.400 --> 1:40:17.479 thing for the younger generation coming after us. We didn't say, hey, guys, 1:40:18.000 --> 1:40:20.479 we're gonna pick these people up so much that you're 1:40:20.479 --> 1:40:24.560 gonna have to automatically say, of course these are our pioneers. 1:40:24.800 --> 1:40:26.640 Of course, these are the people we should look up to. 1:40:27.040 --> 1:40:29.599 We stopped because this is when hip hop started making 1:40:29.680 --> 1:40:34.720 money and we wanted to be forever. We wanted to 1:40:34.720 --> 1:40:37.040 be popping balls in the club, and we were like, 1:40:37.200 --> 1:40:39.960 we don't care about people before us, and were looking 1:40:39.960 --> 1:40:42.639 at we were looking at each other as competition. Yeah, 1:40:43.040 --> 1:40:45.160 and we was looking at the young ins like competition 1:40:45.240 --> 1:40:47.599 back then, you know, and me getting drunk every day. 1:40:48.439 --> 1:40:50.639 But it's a financial thing too. It was a financial 1:40:50.840 --> 1:40:53.080 stop putting things in perspective. I'm just on the chase. 1:40:53.720 --> 1:40:55.720 I'm on the chase, and I'm figuring things out as 1:40:55.760 --> 1:40:59.240 I go. Now that I get to this place, it's 1:40:59.280 --> 1:41:02.519 like fun. Damn. It never was about that. It never 1:41:02.680 --> 1:41:04.639 was about that. It never was about being a tough guy, 1:41:04.800 --> 1:41:06.360 never was about you know what I'm saying. Like, and 1:41:06.439 --> 1:41:09.920 then you're able to put things into perspective once you 1:41:10.000 --> 1:41:12.280 get to that place, you gotta apply that ship. You 1:41:12.400 --> 1:41:14.760 gotta apply it, you know what I mean, and started 1:41:14.760 --> 1:41:16.519 to cut you out. But the difference is I feel 1:41:16.560 --> 1:41:20.800 today is that people respect the dollar, what what people 1:41:20.920 --> 1:41:25.080 made in this industry, where I feel like our generation 1:41:25.240 --> 1:41:32.200 respected what you did for the culture, Like you didn't 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:34.559 have to make a goddamn dollar. But if you, if 1:41:34.600 --> 1:41:36.880 I knew that you were important to the culture, that 1:41:37.240 --> 1:41:39.200 you were the richest person in the world in my mind. 1:41:39.360 --> 1:41:41.600 You know, I've seen that Mexican kid that rhymed on 1:41:41.840 --> 1:41:46.439 l alekas what's his name, I don't know Mexican kid. 1:41:49.040 --> 1:41:54.320 He is hard what's his name? I don't know viral 1:41:54.840 --> 1:41:59.760 from Tiajuana at all. Yeah, but he don't look at 1:41:59.880 --> 1:42:02.800 like he looked like he's moving reeen like he like 1:42:02.920 --> 1:42:05.120 he don't like like hey like I'm told about, but 1:42:05.240 --> 1:42:08.400 I'm to about his bars, like I don't know what 1:42:08.479 --> 1:42:13.040 to be seen playing. Let me see, let me see 1:42:13.040 --> 1:42:16.360 his face. He's on the l A leaguers because I 1:42:16.640 --> 1:42:20.160 was on yard long here. Yeah, like I told you, 1:42:20.200 --> 1:42:25.320 look at the wolf. What's his name? Let me see? Yeah? 1:42:27.960 --> 1:42:31.360 Oh man, he care because I'm watching l A leaking 1:42:31.439 --> 1:42:33.800 ship and then he popped up right after that. I'm like, 1:42:33.920 --> 1:42:37.280 because I'm looking like, hold on, man, you know, booming 1:42:37.320 --> 1:42:42.000 and he starts spinning home and ship hip hop is different, man, 1:42:42.040 --> 1:42:44.240 But yeah, we sucked up? Man. Just what the fund 1:42:44.280 --> 1:42:48.360 is that a lot of people. I felt like some 1:42:48.520 --> 1:42:51.000 people may have may have been they might not be 1:42:51.080 --> 1:42:54.360 able to embrace the newer generation because they feel like 1:42:54.439 --> 1:42:56.280 they ship might be running out, or they might have 1:42:56.360 --> 1:42:58.719 been a little scared the turner, you know, the past 1:42:58.800 --> 1:43:01.640 that along the fast. I'll tell you the truth. I 1:43:01.760 --> 1:43:05.280 think it's actual. I think it's deeper than wrap things. Actually, 1:43:05.320 --> 1:43:11.519 the neighborhoods like if you realize and again, um, this 1:43:11.720 --> 1:43:15.320 is allegedly because I don't know technically, if you look 1:43:15.400 --> 1:43:19.720 like Chicago, I remember Chicago was safe. It was still 1:43:19.840 --> 1:43:22.880 dangerous for people in Chicago, but it was safe because 1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:25.640 all the ogs had everything in control. I remember going 1:43:25.680 --> 1:43:28.280 to compete Green two thirty three o'clock at night and 1:43:28.360 --> 1:43:31.800 nis like, Nori, you're good. I'm hearing shots and like 1:43:31.880 --> 1:43:34.519 the shots going over there. You're good, you stay right here. 1:43:35.120 --> 1:43:37.720 I remember that. But then it was up time when 1:43:37.760 --> 1:43:40.679 they took all the ogs away. And this is when 1:43:40.800 --> 1:43:44.320 Chicago to me, this is allegedly. There's no pure facts. 1:43:44.400 --> 1:43:47.000 This is just what I see since the o G 1:43:47.200 --> 1:43:50.679 since to Larry, who was since these people got took away, 1:43:50.800 --> 1:43:53.320 Since these you know, I don't want to keep since 1:43:53.360 --> 1:43:55.920 they got took away, Chicago is the wildest place on art. 1:43:56.479 --> 1:43:59.080 It's not one of the wilders. But I'm telling you that. 1:43:59.320 --> 1:44:01.240 For me, I don't know saying this is facts. But 1:44:01.360 --> 1:44:04.599 when I seen the old g s there, I felt safer. 1:44:05.280 --> 1:44:07.840 It was it was an order, like people wasn't just 1:44:07.960 --> 1:44:10.479 doing nothing. Now it feels like the wild wild Watch. 1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:13.320 I could be wrong, but but what you're saying happened 1:44:13.360 --> 1:44:16.600 on the street level. I feel like hip hop didn't itself. 1:44:17.200 --> 1:44:19.960 We took ourselves out of That's my point. My point 1:44:20.120 --> 1:44:22.200 was we followed the streets. I'm saying that right, But 1:44:22.400 --> 1:44:25.519 the streets people got locked up. The system took him 1:44:25.520 --> 1:44:29.000 out of the streets. We just said we got locked 1:44:29.040 --> 1:44:32.560 up to but it's it's reporters just said it's we 1:44:32.600 --> 1:44:36.360 got locked up. In the mind. If I helped this 1:44:36.400 --> 1:44:41.200 is a little dude, then they might start working with him. Something. 1:44:41.280 --> 1:44:43.240 I felt like some people might have had that right, 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:45.920 and they've been and of course the younger generation we 1:44:46.080 --> 1:44:47.759 I mean ship, we might have felt like that plenty 1:44:47.760 --> 1:44:49.800 of times when we walked in and people was more 1:44:49.920 --> 1:44:53.400 scared of what you could do. Of course you're scared 1:44:53.400 --> 1:44:56.400 people when you do that fast, because that's that's that's 1:44:56.479 --> 1:44:59.600 what it's about. Collaboration is about me giving you my 1:44:59.720 --> 1:45:02.519 fans you give me. Yeah, that's what That's what we were. 1:45:02.640 --> 1:45:04.880 That's what we remember. And we can't deny the the 1:45:05.000 --> 1:45:09.759 industry side of it, Like the the machine that doesn't 1:45:09.800 --> 1:45:12.880 care about culture, doesn't care about what's going on. They're 1:45:12.920 --> 1:45:14.719 just like, we just want to make money and investment, 1:45:14.880 --> 1:45:16.920 and so they don't care. So whatever they think is 1:45:16.920 --> 1:45:19.439 a fat they're gonna go ahead and replicate it and 1:45:19.520 --> 1:45:21.599 then keep it moving, you know, and then they spend 1:45:21.640 --> 1:45:26.160 marketing dollars to market that to you. Right, This is 1:45:26.200 --> 1:45:27.840 the kind of record you need to be making. So 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:29.800 all the youngest coming up just all they gotta do 1:45:29.880 --> 1:45:31.800 is watch TV and they just want to be that. 1:45:32.200 --> 1:45:33.880 I heard you say that when you got the Sony, 1:45:33.920 --> 1:45:36.759 When you got the Sony, that you hired the stylus, 1:45:36.960 --> 1:45:42.960 you you had grinded what that wasn't your that that 1:45:43.120 --> 1:45:47.200 wasn't your idea. No, okay, you remember the stylars name. 1:45:48.479 --> 1:45:51.800 I remember her name, but I don't want to I 1:45:51.800 --> 1:45:53.719 don't want to say because she was a good star, 1:45:54.439 --> 1:45:56.000 she was a good stolars. It just the things that 1:45:56.080 --> 1:46:00.320 she was pulling. It wasn't me, you know what I mean. 1:46:00.520 --> 1:46:02.880 Everyone has a shiny sup moment in the hip hop 1:46:03.080 --> 1:46:08.960 everyone um today huh today, I'm telling like us, like 1:46:09.080 --> 1:46:12.120 our generation. I think. I think. I think I think 1:46:12.560 --> 1:46:15.519 because when we come into the game, we're accepting, you 1:46:15.560 --> 1:46:17.280 know what I mean, because we don't really know exactly 1:46:17.360 --> 1:46:18.800 what we I didn't know. I didn't even know how 1:46:18.840 --> 1:46:21.320 to make albums, So you know, of course I was 1:46:21.360 --> 1:46:24.280 willing to try some ship because at that moment, I 1:46:24.439 --> 1:46:26.880 just thought I wanted to be famous, you know what 1:46:26.920 --> 1:46:29.120 I mean. So it's like, you know, everything is trial area, 1:46:29.240 --> 1:46:31.679 so you you're willing to you're willing to try some things. 1:46:32.160 --> 1:46:34.320 You don't want to be looked at. It's hard to 1:46:34.360 --> 1:46:35.800 work with. You don't want to be looked at. It 1:46:35.920 --> 1:46:37.880 all these things which I ended up being called all 1:46:37.920 --> 1:46:42.760 of those things. Anyway, you look for change. And I 1:46:42.880 --> 1:46:45.479 used to go on the elevators and white ladies just 1:46:45.600 --> 1:46:48.120 look at me and be like, what did anybody look 1:46:48.120 --> 1:46:49.840 at you crazy for having a goat? Because you know, 1:46:50.280 --> 1:46:52.360 I'm just white. People looked at you. Everybody looks at 1:46:52.360 --> 1:46:59.519 you crazy. But but but but but in retrospect, because 1:46:59.560 --> 1:47:02.160 goat like really something, this is nominous for our culture. 1:47:02.680 --> 1:47:05.680 I don't see other people saying go and really like, 1:47:06.120 --> 1:47:09.439 so you have a goat grain You've ever been on 1:47:09.479 --> 1:47:13.200 a plane and somebody just looked at you. I haven't 1:47:13.240 --> 1:47:15.880 warned it on the plane yet. You haven't worn it 1:47:15.920 --> 1:47:19.559 on the plane yet. But it attracts a lot of attention. 1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:21.599 It attracts a lot of attention. That's why I don't 1:47:21.600 --> 1:47:23.080 really wear it that much. I mean I had it. 1:47:24.160 --> 1:47:25.920 I had it on pretty much every day for my 1:47:26.160 --> 1:47:28.760 for my for my press round from intensive purposes. But 1:47:30.000 --> 1:47:31.760 I don't really wear it like that, man, you know, 1:47:31.800 --> 1:47:35.120 because whenever I wear it. Somebody asked me something. It 1:47:35.240 --> 1:47:38.479 made you get it. I wanted to pay my respects 1:47:38.479 --> 1:47:40.960 to all the goats. I wanted to pay my respects 1:47:40.960 --> 1:47:43.160 to all the goats. And also, um, I think the 1:47:43.200 --> 1:47:46.000 world on myself lyrically, and I want to show the 1:47:46.080 --> 1:47:48.360 younger generation that you should think the world to yourself. 1:47:48.479 --> 1:47:51.760 So you know you are saying you are a goat. 1:47:52.080 --> 1:47:55.120 I'm saying that. I'm saying that. I'm in the conversation. Now, goddamn, 1:47:55.200 --> 1:48:01.400 let's say you are saying you are. I listened to 1:48:01.520 --> 1:48:04.519 your albums. I wanted you to not I wanted you. 1:48:04.720 --> 1:48:06.720 I wanted to catch a slip up. I wanted to 1:48:06.800 --> 1:48:10.519 catch like you. You know, I'm tight with a vocal 1:48:10.600 --> 1:48:13.800 or being lazy somewhere, and you really took gift for 1:48:13.920 --> 1:48:15.920 the time, and I am I correct with that like 1:48:16.040 --> 1:48:21.040 you like damn always. I mean not when I was drinking. Okay, yeah, 1:48:21.840 --> 1:48:23.479 I listened the whole for the album. I had to 1:48:23.520 --> 1:48:26.360 do the whole ship all drunk. I did it all drunk. 1:48:26.560 --> 1:48:31.400 I wasted. I'm telling you this classic though, what makes 1:48:31.400 --> 1:48:33.720 the classics. I'm telling you, man, you go back and 1:48:33.800 --> 1:48:37.080 you fix all that ship. It's too clean to this day. 1:48:37.120 --> 1:48:39.400 I won't. I won't. I won't sucking drink while I 1:48:39.960 --> 1:48:43.160 vocals because it's a wasting time. You notice a difference, No, 1:48:43.280 --> 1:48:45.439 I always slar like even if no one else can't 1:48:45.439 --> 1:48:48.240 catch it. I listened to myself and like fun because 1:48:48.280 --> 1:48:51.160 you're thinking more now, Yeah yeah yeah black. Then it 1:48:51.240 --> 1:48:53.280 was more of a film. Yeah yeah, So like, um 1:48:54.400 --> 1:48:57.479 I did uh? I record with Mr Elliott on um 1:48:58.680 --> 1:49:02.599 I'm flat album, azy dogged out and I'm gonna get 1:49:02.640 --> 1:49:04.040 what we did. And I don't know if it was 1:49:04.120 --> 1:49:07.360 Missy people's I was drinking with, but I got drunken 1:49:07.439 --> 1:49:10.880 ship and I just laid whenever the fundus up and 1:49:10.920 --> 1:49:13.800 then Missy later hush, And I just always knew to 1:49:13.880 --> 1:49:17.040 change my first I always knew, but I go, like, damn, 1:49:17.080 --> 1:49:19.320 we did it like in the same vicinity, and if 1:49:19.360 --> 1:49:20.800 I do what, I'm gonna be able to suck it. 1:49:20.920 --> 1:49:23.439 This this as a girl too, she might just really 1:49:23.600 --> 1:49:25.519 blow it up. And like this didn't change and ship, 1:49:25.880 --> 1:49:29.320 so I just left it. But I always was. I 1:49:29.400 --> 1:49:33.280 believe she's smoking. I believe it, bro I believe I 1:49:33.400 --> 1:49:38.080 had two worst to make it worst smoking. And I 1:49:38.120 --> 1:49:39.760 paid the vote too. I paid it to smoke me, 1:49:46.080 --> 1:49:48.880 but I always knew and I crep with that, and 1:49:48.960 --> 1:49:51.600 since then I had never recorded drunk again, Like I 1:49:51.680 --> 1:49:54.320 mean I have recorded drunk, but that that record has 1:49:54.360 --> 1:49:56.320 never came out. I mean like that version of me 1:49:56.400 --> 1:49:58.320 being drunk. What about body and the trunk with nas 1:49:58.479 --> 1:50:01.439 no body? Trump was so with Ship yea, but not 1:50:02.360 --> 1:50:05.000 when we're smoking, like when I say so, but I 1:50:05.080 --> 1:50:07.560 mean not drinking to me, this is this is this 1:50:07.720 --> 1:50:10.960 is my my cigarette instead of smoking cigarette. But yeah, 1:50:11.000 --> 1:50:14.120 that was a sober session that ship. Um. Yeah, I 1:50:14.160 --> 1:50:16.680 spoke to the other day. He's I think he's in 1:50:16.800 --> 1:50:19.720 that light, living his best life out there Bahamas. All 1:50:19.760 --> 1:50:25.280 types of ship man goddam you know that that like 1:50:25.360 --> 1:50:27.800 when I hear you guys speak about him and see 1:50:28.120 --> 1:50:30.200 the normality. I don't know if that's a word, but 1:50:30.320 --> 1:50:35.000 you know, the normalism. It always because like like when 1:50:35.040 --> 1:50:36.920 I speak to Jail, I speak to that, like I 1:50:37.200 --> 1:50:39.320 always was saying, I always a funk with them, like 1:50:39.360 --> 1:50:41.720 ask them some normal ship like just to see if 1:50:41.760 --> 1:50:44.560 they know. And it's always like it's always crazy, like 1:50:44.640 --> 1:50:47.360 you know, Um, I suppose Jay the other day and 1:50:47.400 --> 1:50:49.639 I was just like, um, it was I didn't realize 1:50:49.800 --> 1:50:52.920 it was um the day pop Smoke died. So I 1:50:53.040 --> 1:50:55.040 was like, yo, you know, be safe and you know me, 1:50:55.479 --> 1:50:57.000 and then he was just like, yo, man, the kid 1:50:57.080 --> 1:50:58.599 was only twenty years old. And I was just saying 1:50:58.640 --> 1:51:00.680 the generic would just be safe. He was like the 1:51:00.800 --> 1:51:02.800 kids only twenty years old. And I was just like, damn, 1:51:03.760 --> 1:51:06.760 he really fucking knows, like I ain't gonna lie be 1:51:06.960 --> 1:51:08.479 things that I wouldn't be thinking about. None of you 1:51:08.640 --> 1:51:18.960 niggers never thought out. You wouldn't even understand the level 1:51:19.000 --> 1:51:21.880 of Hollywood, my dude, Like, Yo, did you see Kanye? 1:51:22.120 --> 1:51:24.680 Just now? Kanye went to Sunday service in Paris and 1:51:24.760 --> 1:51:26.679 he had to do with the umbrella for it, sneakers, 1:51:27.000 --> 1:51:31.240 Oh my god, what we had to do with the umbrella? 1:51:31.439 --> 1:51:35.240 Just wanted seekers what you mean for a sea look 1:51:36.840 --> 1:51:40.120 like he had other security, right, yeah, other security out 1:51:40.160 --> 1:51:42.720 there as he was walking out right. But so he's 1:51:42.760 --> 1:51:45.680 getting out to the joint, so it looks like if 1:51:45.720 --> 1:51:48.240 you look, it looks like he's just holding Unbrella, but 1:51:48.640 --> 1:51:50.679 other people there if you look at the wide angle 1:51:50.840 --> 1:51:52.840 and other people there, so it looks like this guy 1:51:53.040 --> 1:51:55.680 just he got steps off the car and as the 1:51:55.760 --> 1:51:58.839 one sneaker comes out, the umbrella comes for the sneaker, 1:51:59.200 --> 1:52:03.080 right that. I never saw that before. I said, I 1:52:03.160 --> 1:52:07.880 think we should make some know how, you know, if 1:52:07.880 --> 1:52:10.240 the petty motherfucking I don't spend that half an hour 1:52:10.320 --> 1:52:13.400 and try to figure out what the fun is because 1:52:13.439 --> 1:52:17.400 it's not. I was like, only ship, but yeah, that's 1:52:17.560 --> 1:52:18.760 I don't know how you got here? How did you 1:52:18.800 --> 1:52:23.679 get here? Came back? I don't know how long, because 1:52:23.680 --> 1:52:26.559 like you were meeting to be in Hollywood. If you can't, yeah, 1:52:26.640 --> 1:52:30.559 I don't know. Let me get back to that. Let 1:52:30.600 --> 1:52:32.280 me get back to that. Let me just tell you something. 1:52:32.320 --> 1:52:35.720 You know. The King does the moon, Yeah, like that. 1:52:37.640 --> 1:52:41.439 VALUE took pictures with recently, the King of some fucking 1:52:41.479 --> 1:52:49.639 moon though. Yeah yeah, man, I saw you picture all 1:52:49.680 --> 1:52:55.040 over the fucking gram. He's from my ans, he said, 1:52:55.040 --> 1:52:58.519 he's an print of someplace in Africa. For real, I'm 1:52:58.560 --> 1:53:02.759 taking prints with just that. Drugs, Like I was supposed 1:53:02.800 --> 1:53:06.680 to have his phone number, so that jam I was 1:53:06.720 --> 1:53:13.120 talking about when these guys were talking about jeez, so 1:53:13.240 --> 1:53:31.840 you guys don't miss doing drugs at all. Right, listen, 1:53:31.920 --> 1:53:35.479 man each his own because he me me. I believe 1:53:35.560 --> 1:53:38.240 it's it's about the person. Like, you know, it's about 1:53:38.280 --> 1:53:42.240 the person. Like, um, I've known a person named Keith 1:53:42.280 --> 1:53:46.560 who five years like crazy, then five years, will go 1:53:46.600 --> 1:53:50.240 to the army, then come back, two years, will be 1:53:50.320 --> 1:53:52.439 out head in two more years, go to the army. 1:53:52.520 --> 1:53:54.960 So like I knew people who knew how to really 1:53:55.040 --> 1:53:58.840 really control it. So um, but then I knew people 1:53:58.840 --> 1:54:01.240 who did who could I know people who are still 1:54:01.360 --> 1:54:03.960 out there. So what was the moment where it was like, yo, 1:54:04.080 --> 1:54:05.960 this is it for me? What was what was your rock? 1:54:06.280 --> 1:54:09.160 Is it rock bottom that you have to hear? Absolutely? Absolutely? 1:54:09.200 --> 1:54:12.040 I think, I think um. In order to truly get 1:54:12.080 --> 1:54:16.280 yourself prepared to go into sobriety and work the steps 1:54:16.360 --> 1:54:19.000 and work the ship, you gotta be over it. You 1:54:19.080 --> 1:54:21.960 gotta be tired of it, you know, like into me. 1:54:22.800 --> 1:54:25.240 So many different things happened to me as a result 1:54:25.320 --> 1:54:27.800 of just being drunk all the time. And I made 1:54:27.840 --> 1:54:29.960 so many bad decisions, you know what I mean, like 1:54:30.560 --> 1:54:33.800 hurt people, you know what I mean, like just just 1:54:34.400 --> 1:54:37.880 everything bad in my life. Just you know, I nominated 1:54:38.000 --> 1:54:42.360 was always alcohol fat bitches, Uh, A couple of fat bitches. 1:54:42.520 --> 1:54:46.040 I mean that was easy, that's easy. I feel like 1:54:48.560 --> 1:55:01.000 he kept the standards This is in no way any 1:55:01.080 --> 1:55:05.280 shot too over look, what do you call it? Plus 1:55:05.440 --> 1:55:10.240 sign plus size women. I was about to say oversize 1:55:11.800 --> 1:55:16.760 that a little bad would have got bad friends. This 1:55:16.960 --> 1:55:19.280 is in no way any type of shot to plus 1:55:19.320 --> 1:55:22.800 size women. I don't think I've ever really done that 1:55:23.000 --> 1:55:26.000 like that, But I mean it was way deeper than that, 1:55:26.080 --> 1:55:27.600 you know, like I got into a car accident my 1:55:27.680 --> 1:55:30.160 first bolder. Let's keep it light right now. A couple 1:55:30.160 --> 1:55:37.440 of ugly bitches though, yeah, we all business. We all 1:55:37.600 --> 1:55:41.800 snashed the ship in the morning. Was like, no, I 1:55:41.880 --> 1:55:44.720 think I think that was like part of being a 1:55:44.800 --> 1:55:48.280 rapper coming from the nineties. You know, we just did 1:55:48.320 --> 1:55:52.440 as the Romans. Dude, we just came in. We have 1:55:52.640 --> 1:55:57.320 a wing man. Anybody, I'm not gonna lie, let me 1:55:57.800 --> 1:56:03.879 your something. One of years of faces, not recently Capone 1:56:04.080 --> 1:56:07.120 was the best wing man in the game. He'll take 1:56:07.160 --> 1:56:11.760 the one anything, they'll take the friends no power, Like 1:56:11.880 --> 1:56:13.840 you know, you got the bad one and she got 1:56:13.960 --> 1:56:19.520 the ugly ugly that like different you look at du 1:56:19.720 --> 1:56:21.440 get all your other friends to be like, you know, 1:56:21.480 --> 1:56:24.160 I got I got, I got, I got Kimberly Sydney 1:56:24.200 --> 1:56:32.040 what Sydney, I ain't gonna I kim believe I got Kimberly, 1:56:32.840 --> 1:56:38.520 all right, they got take sitting, I take down take anything. 1:56:38.600 --> 1:56:40.640 Then my whole, my whole career is wing man in 1:56:40.680 --> 1:56:43.520 the game. My whole career. I've been with my wife 1:56:43.600 --> 1:56:46.320 the whole time, and so my whole drink while I 1:56:46.400 --> 1:56:49.280 was drinking that whole process with just a struggle to 1:56:49.400 --> 1:56:52.040 try to stay faithful, you know what I mean? So 1:56:52.080 --> 1:56:55.000 I never was the wing man? Ship? Was you a 1:56:55.040 --> 1:56:58.480 wingman or been winged? I've definitely been you've been a wingman. 1:56:58.960 --> 1:57:01.720 Don't tell me for amy, don't tell me you how 1:57:01.840 --> 1:57:04.000 he was a wing man? You know what I do know? 1:57:04.520 --> 1:57:06.520 Yah know he's a way man. For proof I be. 1:57:06.640 --> 1:57:13.000 I definitely women proof. He did not play but a 1:57:13.080 --> 1:57:15.080 man approve of grabs some tricks on the dance, but 1:57:15.200 --> 1:57:17.040 we'd be dancing and Ship, I've been a wingman a 1:57:17.080 --> 1:57:19.120 couple of times. Have you been a wing man? You? 1:57:19.960 --> 1:57:23.240 I'm not gonna lie if you were drunk that you 1:57:23.440 --> 1:57:26.800 might have been wing man together. You seem a little 1:57:26.840 --> 1:57:30.880 wing ish me and now hanging out together in that 1:57:31.080 --> 1:57:35.880 and that way. Now, yeah, I know, huh crave digs funk. 1:57:35.920 --> 1:57:40.640 You acted like you the devil that knows Scinder give 1:57:40.720 --> 1:57:53.280 me sight to grave days, dude, are you wrong? We'll see. 1:57:53.400 --> 1:57:59.880 What's your favorite part about the game? This what just seeing. 1:58:00.040 --> 1:58:03.320 And when we first started working together, one thing I 1:58:03.400 --> 1:58:06.440 wanted to do was hear people mention him as the 1:58:06.760 --> 1:58:09.960 best th I don't know if we talked we said it, 1:58:10.000 --> 1:58:11.160 but it was like one of the things that I 1:58:11.240 --> 1:58:12.880 was like, Yeah, I want people to know what I 1:58:12.960 --> 1:58:20.800 know about you, and I think the growth and watching 1:58:20.840 --> 1:58:23.440 that growth and watching it happens. Being a producer ain't 1:58:23.480 --> 1:58:28.680 just producing music. Sometimes you're producing people. You're producing character 1:58:28.840 --> 1:58:30.960 and trying to Because when he went through, that's what 1:58:31.160 --> 1:58:33.520 made me be like, all right, I'm not gonna drink. 1:58:33.560 --> 1:58:35.520 I'm not gonna do this. It made me chill the 1:58:35.560 --> 1:58:38.320 funk out because I seemed like all of your unit 1:58:38.400 --> 1:58:43.120 got tight after that, like m you um even like yeah, 1:58:43.160 --> 1:58:45.520 y'all tell me, do you tell me if this is straight? 1:58:45.800 --> 1:58:48.920 Like around that time, Dr Dre made everyone go to 1:58:49.040 --> 1:58:51.360 the studio that I mean, to the to the gym. 1:58:51.440 --> 1:58:53.960 I heard. I heard he made the engineers. I heard 1:58:54.000 --> 1:58:56.160 he made the intern He definitely did. He had everybody 1:58:56.200 --> 1:58:58.360 on that. Yeah, it was all on it. When when 1:58:58.560 --> 1:59:02.360 everybody that was there, you know, but and it felt 1:59:02.400 --> 1:59:06.880 like m did somewhat the same thing, which didn't force 1:59:07.000 --> 1:59:09.360 nobody to do because it was his battlem Okay, So 1:59:10.200 --> 1:59:12.280 still in the studios, there's people still smoking around. Don't 1:59:12.280 --> 1:59:15.160 know that that's it's just I mean, slaughter house. At 1:59:15.160 --> 1:59:16.560 one point, it was a couple of times, but he 1:59:16.680 --> 1:59:18.360 wasn't at the studio all the time. He used to 1:59:18.440 --> 1:59:21.040 let us use the studio sometimes before I had my studio. 1:59:21.120 --> 1:59:26.160 Who's spoken sort of house crooking Crook smokes, the guard 1:59:26.720 --> 1:59:29.640 smokes Guard. Now nobody was smoking. The Joe smoke cigarettes 1:59:29.800 --> 1:59:33.360 back here. I'm not even sure if he smokes. But 1:59:33.440 --> 1:59:35.280 it was just a lot of drinking. We used to. 1:59:35.440 --> 1:59:38.680 We used to use his studio and he'd come in 1:59:38.760 --> 1:59:40.760 and the next morning and they'll just be bottles and 1:59:40.800 --> 1:59:43.240 ship all over the place. He didn't care, okay about that? 1:59:43.640 --> 1:59:45.320 Is that a trigger for any of y'all, like when 1:59:45.360 --> 1:59:48.080 y'all see um Like, not for me, but I could 1:59:48.160 --> 1:59:50.320 I could see where that could be problematic for somebody else. 1:59:51.400 --> 1:59:53.280 I just prefer, I'm sorry, I mean to you, brother, 1:59:53.880 --> 1:59:55.840 I just prefer everybody to beat themselves, you know what. 1:59:55.880 --> 1:59:57.520 I'm saying, because if you know, like if you get 1:59:57.640 --> 1:59:59.400 like when we worked on the last Slat of House 1:59:59.440 --> 2:00:02.960 album and I first guy sober, the one that didn't 2:00:03.000 --> 2:00:04.920 come out. I used to be in the studio Niggers 2:00:04.960 --> 2:00:08.800 used to be hiding bottles and ship like that. That's worse. Now. 2:00:08.840 --> 2:00:11.280 I feel like I'm being handled. Treat me like an addict, 2:00:11.880 --> 2:00:13.560 you know what I mean? Like, I just want everybody 2:00:13.600 --> 2:00:15.280 to be their selves. Whatever you need to do to 2:00:15.320 --> 2:00:17.320 get in your element, please do that, man, Because it's 2:00:17.360 --> 2:00:19.960 not like if you're hungry and you smell some steak 2:00:20.000 --> 2:00:22.000 being cooked. You know what I'm saying. It's nothing like that. 2:00:22.120 --> 2:00:24.520 It's way more mental than that, you know what I'm saying. So, 2:00:25.280 --> 2:00:27.160 and you're not really defeating I don't think you're really 2:00:27.760 --> 2:00:30.320 beating your addiction when if you hide from it, right, 2:00:30.320 --> 2:00:32.560 you know, it allows you to keep exercising what you're 2:00:32.560 --> 2:00:36.040 already doing. Smoke a cigarettes. People will walk away from 2:00:36.080 --> 2:00:38.520 me when they're supposed to cigarette. I was like I said, 2:00:38.680 --> 2:00:40.720 I said that the guy outside of Houston is not 2:00:40.720 --> 2:00:42.760 gonna walk away from me. He's going to smoke a 2:00:42.800 --> 2:00:45.040 cigarette in front of me, just as well. I said 2:00:45.080 --> 2:00:48.000 for my friend Sunny d bt he smoked feet cigarettes 2:00:50.000 --> 2:00:53.520 like pneumon your feet and sand paper. It's terrible. That's 2:00:53.520 --> 2:01:08.040 what kind of marble American spirits Americans American? So you 2:01:08.240 --> 2:01:10.120 let me tell you something about the one with the 2:01:10.160 --> 2:01:14.840 Indian man on the fun. Yeah, you know, let me 2:01:14.920 --> 2:01:19.160 tell you something. Let me tell you something about fun. 2:01:21.360 --> 2:01:24.000 Let me just tell you something. You know what you 2:01:24.120 --> 2:01:26.360 say they say, they say, if this was a person, 2:01:26.680 --> 2:01:29.480 this is if if if, if I don't give a 2:01:29.520 --> 2:01:33.160 funk about my life, was a cigarette right there? That 2:01:33.240 --> 2:01:37.080 ship right, yeah, that should smell. That'shr oval power to goal. 2:01:38.320 --> 2:01:40.760 You're smoking. To god, that's just my like fucking bust. 2:01:40.800 --> 2:01:46.000 Smoke is horrible, my god. So you guys don't miss 2:01:46.080 --> 2:01:47.880 get high. That's good, that's great. Let makes no noise 2:01:47.920 --> 2:01:51.560 for that. I don't massic. And you you faith, you 2:01:51.720 --> 2:01:53.960 you have you have a girl? No, no, no, So 2:01:54.080 --> 2:01:57.080 you're out there still still still I mean, I mean, 2:01:57.160 --> 2:01:58.640 you know you can have people in your life, but 2:01:59.440 --> 2:02:02.160 it's like trying to figure it out. Is that like 2:02:02.240 --> 2:02:04.320 I haven't done what I wanted to do with my 2:02:04.400 --> 2:02:08.080 life yet I'm not there, So it's like, what can 2:02:08.120 --> 2:02:11.480 I offer you if I'm not happy? M Jesus, you 2:02:11.520 --> 2:02:14.000 know it's deep. I can I can love you, I 2:02:14.080 --> 2:02:15.640 can love you, I can work with you. You can 2:02:16.040 --> 2:02:17.760 you can ride with me through the journey. But then 2:02:18.320 --> 2:02:21.360 the same thing as being artists, the destination, family is 2:02:21.400 --> 2:02:23.920 the destination. So until I can provide that and give 2:02:23.960 --> 2:02:26.120 you that, I can't give you that. I finally happy. 2:02:26.960 --> 2:02:29.920 He's strapping up straight, Strap it up, strap it up. 2:02:32.840 --> 2:02:36.640 You know nigga's out here going wrong. Corona virus without 2:02:36.640 --> 2:02:41.920 the coronavirus. I think it's going niggas going wrong without 2:02:41.960 --> 2:02:52.280 the coronas growing them. Are you know what? It's that 2:02:54.240 --> 2:02:56.320 That's another reason why I'm faithful, man like I wish 2:02:56.360 --> 2:03:00.360 I would be caught dead using a goddamn kind brown 2:03:00.400 --> 2:03:03.880 ass man, Doug, I ain't gonna like your colors. Just think, 2:03:06.920 --> 2:03:13.920 just think. Coming since last you, I was like, where 2:03:14.040 --> 2:03:15.760 did this come? And you don't want to go to 2:03:15.800 --> 2:03:21.120 your calls and you with Charlie. Okay, tell the story. 2:03:21.680 --> 2:03:25.680 This grand used the corn together. No, that's not true. 2:03:26.160 --> 2:03:32.760 This can't mix up his own stick. What are you 2:03:32.880 --> 2:03:35.640 talking about? Then he had Charlie in the equation though 2:03:37.080 --> 2:03:39.480 that was some weird all he was there, Charlie char 2:03:41.880 --> 2:03:45.080 we're not gonna go down this path. And when your 2:03:45.160 --> 2:03:50.280 friends both use the same column bottom not no, no, no, Bob, listen, 2:03:51.320 --> 2:03:53.320 you will say it out. You will hain't out that. 2:03:56.520 --> 2:04:00.200 What happened somebody left the room and somebody else picked 2:04:00.280 --> 2:04:03.160 up some joint off the ground. Already you into town. 2:04:03.280 --> 2:04:06.840 That's what happened. I won on Charlie. I want nobody else, 2:04:11.920 --> 2:04:19.880 don't remixing, and we set the remix. You' he fucked 2:04:22.320 --> 2:04:34.040 you wasn't second shure, I'm playing some good And then 2:04:34.080 --> 2:04:36.200 I heard some others hid. We already said you're good 2:04:36.240 --> 2:04:39.480 looking at homie for giving me a huge on that 2:04:39.640 --> 2:04:44.720 he took me shit off hand. Listen, he hid far 2:04:44.880 --> 2:04:52.440 nory like tet and know he's like you. So when 2:04:52.480 --> 2:04:54.760 I found out and said, yo, you know this ship come, 2:04:54.960 --> 2:05:00.640 I'd say, whoa. I wasn't used to my navy ship 2:05:00.680 --> 2:05:05.640 at that time. Things different. No, it was like I 2:05:05.760 --> 2:05:10.800 used to use comsas maybe but hey man, let's make 2:05:10.840 --> 2:05:18.320 some noise for you have been using can no classmate 2:05:18.440 --> 2:05:22.760 here ye here with you know, but but but what 2:05:22.920 --> 2:05:25.520 every year there's a measles just the mom's just all 2:05:25.560 --> 2:05:32.320 this ship and I thought you was naming gangs, the 2:05:32.400 --> 2:05:36.640 mess and the mothers very you know it's something that 2:05:39.200 --> 2:05:44.360 ship that just pop off? Who's the other ship was 2:05:44.400 --> 2:05:46.520 in Chicken? Was the ship in the chicken? The sorry 2:05:46.680 --> 2:05:50.160 no no, no, that's you're talking about all of these 2:05:50.240 --> 2:05:54.520 new viruses and by the US. Yeah, like and right 2:05:54.560 --> 2:05:56.720 now you're going on Amazon. You can't even buy the 2:05:56.800 --> 2:06:01.560 ship out of the face man that they'd be having 2:06:01.640 --> 2:06:04.440 on They can't even buy that joint. So where do 2:06:04.520 --> 2:06:10.360 you get them? Tyrese House? I think Tyres He's the 2:06:10.400 --> 2:06:13.320 only thing guys left. You got the only black nigger one. 2:06:15.240 --> 2:06:19.280 I thinks bing them all um big, But you think 2:06:19.320 --> 2:06:22.720 you think that we are scared and the purpose he 2:06:22.720 --> 2:06:25.360 putting us in scared or this is something that's one 2:06:25.480 --> 2:06:28.880 million percent? Will you're speaking about the coronavirus? Yeah, yeah, 2:06:29.160 --> 2:06:32.480 particular in particular, Yeah, um, I believe it's I believe 2:06:32.520 --> 2:06:35.040 it's something that came from Asia, all right. I believe 2:06:35.080 --> 2:06:37.720 that because they said that somebody bit a bat and 2:06:37.800 --> 2:06:40.360 that's how I came. But I been a bat. Was 2:06:40.400 --> 2:06:45.160 want back? He been a fake he It was always 2:06:45.200 --> 2:06:52.680 fake wants the o G he was that was no 2:06:54.120 --> 2:06:58.800 if you believe that was real, bro, oh, Dominican public 2:06:58.880 --> 2:07:07.280 stopping really getting one of the Yeah, I totally no. 2:07:07.400 --> 2:07:11.000 He did it one time, but not every fucking show. Yeah, 2:07:11.920 --> 2:07:14.240 it was alive though when he did it. Yet, Oh man, 2:07:15.680 --> 2:07:17.840 I believe. I believe in both. Though. I believe in um. 2:07:18.000 --> 2:07:21.640 I believe that a virus can come here from another country. 2:07:21.680 --> 2:07:24.000 But I also believe in population control too. I believe 2:07:24.040 --> 2:07:29.080 in both. And niggas sucking animals too. You can believe 2:07:29.120 --> 2:07:32.120 in the media sucking it up. I mean, listen, doctors 2:07:32.160 --> 2:07:34.320 sucking it up. We can we can then up. Thing 2:07:34.440 --> 2:07:37.000 is this to me? Every year we had something right. 2:07:37.080 --> 2:07:40.640 Every year was something that new popped up. That's crying wolf. 2:07:41.800 --> 2:07:44.040 When the real ship happened, ain't nobody gonna be ready. 2:07:44.160 --> 2:07:45.320 You know why I think this is the real shift 2:07:45.360 --> 2:07:47.800 happening because Trump is saying this is not the real ship. 2:07:48.280 --> 2:07:51.840 That's just skis. You know, he turned around today here 2:07:51.960 --> 2:07:56.800 yesterday because the first death in America happened, and then 2:07:56.800 --> 2:08:00.520 he said, oh, I'm sorry, it's real. Not the state 2:08:00.640 --> 2:08:04.600 not watching the d c oh Seattle and all that. Whoa, 2:08:05.400 --> 2:08:07.240 they got the best butt out there. Well I'm not, 2:08:07.320 --> 2:08:10.600 I'm not, I'm gonna I'm gonna take it is. You know, 2:08:11.440 --> 2:08:14.200 we don't know if once she wants once people started 2:08:14.240 --> 2:08:15.960 driving the ship like that, I just I'm always I 2:08:16.040 --> 2:08:19.080 really be ready than not. Bernie Satons. If Bernie Santons 2:08:19.160 --> 2:08:22.520 get it, we finished. I don't know what people think that. 2:08:22.560 --> 2:08:24.560 Why do I don't do you? I don't do you 2:08:24.680 --> 2:08:27.440 get a cold right now, Bernie Santons, this is my man. 2:08:27.680 --> 2:08:29.840 Oh you know you're saying if he gets oh you're saying, 2:08:29.880 --> 2:08:35.680 if he get the fun, he get burn food. Bernie, 2:08:40.520 --> 2:08:42.240 I'm gonna tell you why I'm Bernie them tell you 2:08:42.280 --> 2:08:45.240 why I'm killing. Mike is a very close friend of mine. 2:08:45.240 --> 2:08:46.680 A lot of times I hang out, will kill the Mike. 2:08:46.720 --> 2:08:49.160 We don't post pictures, we don't, you know, just hang out. 2:08:50.400 --> 2:08:54.800 The other day killing Mike comes to town. He said, Yo, 2:08:54.880 --> 2:08:56.720 I want to get some weed, I want to buy 2:08:56.800 --> 2:08:59.400 some food. I want to want to drink, and we're 2:08:59.400 --> 2:09:02.320 having a best time. I kill the best best time. 2:09:02.760 --> 2:09:04.720 And he knows when I started to drink. I don't 2:09:04.760 --> 2:09:08.760 want to be political at all. And because he's a 2:09:08.880 --> 2:09:11.600 very smart person, so when you drunk, you don't want 2:09:11.600 --> 2:09:14.440 to hear no smart shit. So I you know, I'll 2:09:14.480 --> 2:09:18.360 make it clear. You know, let's dumb it down for me. 2:09:19.160 --> 2:09:21.800 The drunker I get, the less I want to comprehend. 2:09:23.040 --> 2:09:25.520 So and this out is when we're just killing me. 2:09:25.560 --> 2:09:28.280 Just chill me Ian and then in't forget how it happens. 2:09:28.320 --> 2:09:30.880 And he just serious. He was like, yo, Bernie's for us, 2:09:31.800 --> 2:09:34.640 And I was just like he knew my stance, he 2:09:34.760 --> 2:09:37.480 knew everything. But for the way he said it and 2:09:37.600 --> 2:09:40.040 how he said it, I was like, you know what, 2:09:40.240 --> 2:09:42.720 I'm working with you, and I'm working with him for that. 2:09:44.000 --> 2:09:50.280 But I do look like I think Aunt could beat 2:09:50.320 --> 2:10:00.160 Bernie Sanders in the fight who stand up and think 2:10:00.440 --> 2:10:02.640 I think I think it might funk up Bernie sadus 2:10:02.680 --> 2:10:05.160 man because the camera's focus like that don't matter. That 2:10:05.240 --> 2:10:10.440 don't matter, man, the resident to be able to fight. Yeah, Obama, 2:10:10.640 --> 2:10:12.480 let let me tell you something. The way Obama shot 2:10:12.520 --> 2:10:13.920 to jump shot, you could tell you know what to 2:10:14.040 --> 2:10:17.240 do up throw all right hand for real, like you 2:10:17.280 --> 2:10:19.400 know what I mean. Like he's saying, Bernie a little old. 2:10:19.840 --> 2:10:21.680 I think Bernie. I think Bernie, I don't know. I'm 2:10:21.680 --> 2:10:25.720 not sure Bernie can stick with us. I'm I'm damn you, 2:10:26.960 --> 2:10:30.000 I'm gonna with Bernie, I'm sticking with burn What is 2:10:30.040 --> 2:10:32.520 it the burns? I'm burned? YEA got something to say 2:10:32.560 --> 2:10:36.360 on that? Who you working with? You don't like it? 2:10:36.440 --> 2:10:38.880 I really feel like to me, I always feel like 2:10:39.040 --> 2:10:41.840 it's like the one thing that we're doing wrong and 2:10:41.920 --> 2:10:44.440 it's just you know, for me watching that the one 2:10:44.480 --> 2:10:46.600 thing you know that you notice about Republicans they don't 2:10:46.600 --> 2:10:50.400 give a person is a murderer. Yeah, ain't going as 2:10:50.440 --> 2:10:54.400 long as they're going for they Yeah, they stick with 2:10:54.440 --> 2:10:57.320 their party next sell. What we do is no man. 2:10:57.560 --> 2:11:01.000 Wenna tore down everybody first. What's called it was winning 2:11:01.040 --> 2:11:05.120 then Bernie was winning. Bible was. What we gotta do 2:11:05.240 --> 2:11:08.400 is figure out with everything anything you want to work. 2:11:08.440 --> 2:11:10.160 It is some kind of unity you gotta happen, right, 2:11:10.480 --> 2:11:13.520 And everybody keep on talking about how the black vote 2:11:13.760 --> 2:11:16.960 is more more popular. To me, it is letting me 2:11:17.040 --> 2:11:20.120 know that how powerful we are. And Mike Bloomberg is 2:11:20.160 --> 2:11:23.280 trying to buy our community Like this nigger, let me 2:11:23.320 --> 2:11:26.000 just tell you something. I can't go nowhere in the hood. 2:11:26.400 --> 2:11:30.440 Bloomberg guy, like that isn't the hut. He's just blowing 2:11:30.480 --> 2:11:34.200 money because ain't nobody. Yeah, yeah, you think it's gonna work. No, 2:11:34.720 --> 2:11:36.600 I ain't gonna lie something. He's gonna take some money though, 2:11:37.880 --> 2:11:40.280 like something. I mean you said you can't do that 2:11:40.360 --> 2:11:42.840 though you can't pay Yeah, you know not the vote 2:11:42.840 --> 2:11:48.240 for them, and you know what, that's the people that 2:11:48.360 --> 2:11:52.480 Turner was. I think he's the Democratic ship. But what 2:11:52.600 --> 2:11:55.440 I will tell you about Bloomberg is he funked up 2:11:55.480 --> 2:11:59.240 stopping first all that ship it's foul ship. But the 2:11:59.280 --> 2:12:02.520 ship for that ship did mad foul ship. But I'll 2:12:02.560 --> 2:12:05.400 tell you this. The way you correct foul ship is 2:12:05.520 --> 2:12:08.480 to do something correct about it. You can't do something correct. 2:12:08.520 --> 2:12:10.960 He has your time to try to get voted, but 2:12:11.040 --> 2:12:13.200 the fact that he has a black agenda makes that 2:12:13.280 --> 2:12:16.960 ship kind of like, well, you can't believe it. We 2:12:17.000 --> 2:12:19.120 get to the office, you can't. You know, somebody people 2:12:19.160 --> 2:12:21.320 can start doing this. You got another RoCE prior to 2:12:21.640 --> 2:12:26.840 I think I'm getting high off contact. Okay, good, yeah, 2:12:27.240 --> 2:12:32.640 I was. I'm sinking down more into my stoically. This 2:12:32.720 --> 2:12:35.920 is my first like really really And you watched Bill 2:12:35.960 --> 2:12:40.160 Moore who I watched Bill absolutely not well he talked 2:12:40.200 --> 2:12:44.000 about him on the time. Oh I watched Bill Mark. 2:12:44.040 --> 2:12:47.240 But what he said gave him because because of the 2:12:47.280 --> 2:12:50.200 Nigger Ship. Yeah, oh, but he just watched the actually show. 2:12:50.280 --> 2:12:52.840 When he did, okay, I didn't feel I didn't feel 2:12:52.840 --> 2:12:55.160 like he meant it. And you know what, it was 2:12:55.440 --> 2:12:59.000 Iceque checking him. I watched that too. I love that good. 2:12:59.000 --> 2:13:01.160 When ice c checked up and how he checked him, 2:13:02.280 --> 2:13:05.120 I immediately forgave. I'm not boycott. You can't forgive him 2:13:05.400 --> 2:13:07.880 for it. I mean I did I forget. I don't 2:13:07.880 --> 2:13:10.360 think you just forgive me. Forgive him. You know what 2:13:10.480 --> 2:13:12.560 it is? He used a joke how I would use 2:13:12.600 --> 2:13:17.080 the joke. And that's what it thinks being around brother sometimes, 2:13:17.200 --> 2:13:20.920 like you're listen, it's a habit. And I don't mean 2:13:21.000 --> 2:13:22.960 to take out for him, but if you hang around 2:13:23.000 --> 2:13:27.080 your crip homie, trust me your cause your cause, no 2:13:27.280 --> 2:13:30.360 cu us, it's just inevitable. You hanging around your blood holie. 2:13:30.880 --> 2:13:33.280 After while, you're like blood, Like damn what you catch yourself. 2:13:33.880 --> 2:13:36.000 I feel like I'm a black pool so much. I 2:13:36.080 --> 2:13:38.600 feel like Bill is a brilliant man. Brilliant. Yes, he's 2:13:38.600 --> 2:13:40.640 a brilliant man, and I feel like he knows better. 2:13:41.640 --> 2:13:43.640 You know that, That's what I think. I feel like. 2:13:44.320 --> 2:13:46.520 I'm not like I'm not like boycotting him or anything. 2:13:46.680 --> 2:13:49.240 I just I just have n't. I take more Gucci 2:13:49.800 --> 2:13:51.640 a desire to get back into the show after I've 2:13:51.640 --> 2:13:56.560 seen him. I take more fistic Gucci Gucci, and I 2:13:56.680 --> 2:14:00.120 did with Bill More because I kind of don't know 2:14:00.240 --> 2:14:02.000 him as a person. I don't know him as a person, 2:14:02.040 --> 2:14:04.320 but I followed, you know, his other shows, and I 2:14:04.400 --> 2:14:06.600 lead him to him. He's definitely not racist, He's definitely 2:14:06.680 --> 2:14:08.640 not that guy. He used it in the wrong way 2:14:08.680 --> 2:14:11.040 and using the wrong content, you know, and he shouldn't 2:14:11.040 --> 2:14:12.560 have used it at all. I never I never took 2:14:12.800 --> 2:14:15.920 to use it Allucci is a big corporation. I never 2:14:16.000 --> 2:14:18.880 took it as him being racist. And remember Bill Moore 2:14:19.040 --> 2:14:22.320 was live, especially irresponsible. He was live. Bill Moore was live. 2:14:22.880 --> 2:14:25.040 Is not live. Gucci has to go through a whole 2:14:25.120 --> 2:14:27.680 bunch of processes. It was playing out that that kind 2:14:27.720 --> 2:14:29.920 of scene playing out to me, Gucci, you know, Bill 2:14:29.960 --> 2:14:32.400 More again, it was and I'm not defending them because 2:14:32.400 --> 2:14:34.800 he doesn't need me defend on them, but it was live. 2:14:34.840 --> 2:14:37.680 It was something He's like, Hey, I'm not I'm a 2:14:38.320 --> 2:14:41.440 I'm a house nigger. That's what he said, and it was. 2:14:41.720 --> 2:14:43.920 It was definitely shouldn't have been said. Definitely was wrong, 2:14:44.040 --> 2:14:46.680 Definitely was out of content. But I feel like that 2:14:46.840 --> 2:14:49.720 was live. It was it was. It was a mistake, Gucci. 2:14:50.400 --> 2:14:53.000 There's no way you couldn't have known him that, you know, 2:14:53.520 --> 2:14:56.560 having that And it wasn't Burberry, I think too. It 2:14:56.680 --> 2:15:01.360 was it was like somebody like it was like Claire. 2:15:01.440 --> 2:15:04.040 It was like back to back in a week, and 2:15:04.240 --> 2:15:07.240 um uh it was Burbery, right, it was Burber. And 2:15:08.560 --> 2:15:10.120 this is what this is what, this is what I feel. 2:15:10.120 --> 2:15:12.440 I don't know, I'm off off subject. So we all 2:15:12.520 --> 2:15:16.040 did this boycott BOYCOTTI Gucci, right, not all of us, 2:15:16.360 --> 2:15:20.320 we most of us did right. Then Gucci comes to 2:15:20.400 --> 2:15:24.240 the hood because two million dollars to uh well representative 2:15:24.280 --> 2:15:27.080 Gucci gives two million dollars to I believe a black community. 2:15:27.080 --> 2:15:30.040 I forget what it was. And Dapper Dan is there 2:15:30.720 --> 2:15:34.160 and then not everyone's back wick Gucci, what is your stand? 2:15:34.200 --> 2:15:37.600 So Dapper Dan is a legend, but no, no, not 2:15:37.720 --> 2:15:39.760 that dad. We know japer Dan, we know that one, 2:15:39.880 --> 2:15:42.480 like that's the legend with Guccio, with Algen for sure, 2:15:42.640 --> 2:15:45.080 but the actual situation because he didn't have nothing to 2:15:45.120 --> 2:15:47.320 do with that. Yeah, I mean I don't know. I 2:15:47.440 --> 2:15:51.080 don't know um enough about that part of the situation 2:15:51.160 --> 2:15:53.200 per se to be able to speak about it intelligently. 2:15:53.760 --> 2:15:58.440 I will say this, Um, I agree with you. I 2:15:58.520 --> 2:16:00.400 agree with you. I don't think there's some like that 2:16:00.720 --> 2:16:03.000 a trigger like a trigger like that can be pulled 2:16:03.120 --> 2:16:06.240 without it being well thought out and it's going through 2:16:06.400 --> 2:16:09.560 proper channels. And I just feel like somebody should have 2:16:09.600 --> 2:16:12.160 seen it before it came out. And when things like 2:16:12.280 --> 2:16:15.040 that happened, people need to be held accountable, you know. 2:16:15.240 --> 2:16:17.960 And and and it's okay to accept the apology. It's 2:16:18.000 --> 2:16:20.240 okay to accept the apology and move forward. As long 2:16:20.320 --> 2:16:22.240 as we can move forward in a way it's helpful 2:16:22.520 --> 2:16:25.640 to everybody. And these things don't just keep repeating ourselves. 2:16:26.040 --> 2:16:29.000 What would happen if we really controlled them dollar, Like 2:16:29.080 --> 2:16:31.200 if we really said, yo, you know what, for the 2:16:31.240 --> 2:16:34.640 whole month of March, we're only gonna wear makes it 2:16:34.800 --> 2:16:38.120 mong yellow. We're only gonna wear this, this, this, and that. 2:16:38.240 --> 2:16:40.960 We're only gonna buy this type of groceries. We're only 2:16:41.040 --> 2:16:43.879 gonna buy what it happens to we really controlled our dollars, 2:16:43.959 --> 2:16:46.200 and I'm not let me let me make it bigger 2:16:46.200 --> 2:16:50.080 than just black people. Let me let me clude hip hop. 2:16:50.640 --> 2:16:54.680 I think I think it would be that moment that 2:16:54.800 --> 2:16:57.960 we realize the value that we bring to this country. 2:16:58.800 --> 2:17:01.360 We're real, lot, We're real. That's how powerful we are. 2:17:01.680 --> 2:17:06.360 That's what the introtion from a com um. But we 2:17:06.440 --> 2:17:09.640 will we will also too. To me, always feel like 2:17:09.680 --> 2:17:12.920 the Boogeyman on short space at that point. Remember tos Oklahoma. 2:17:13.000 --> 2:17:16.720 Remember that's why that happened, because of that, because of 2:17:16.760 --> 2:17:20.520 that unification. Because they unified and they did that. I 2:17:20.600 --> 2:17:23.160 heard why a fuck up um say the other day 2:17:23.400 --> 2:17:27.680 he said a Puffy jay Z, Birdman and Dr Dre 2:17:27.840 --> 2:17:30.840 always to get a label. There was no one would 2:17:30.840 --> 2:17:33.199 be signed there would it would be no more labels. 2:17:33.480 --> 2:17:36.560 It would be no more labels. Like that's they forget everything. 2:17:36.959 --> 2:17:38.560 I mean, we were all signed to them. We will 2:17:38.600 --> 2:17:41.000 all be like, give me an independent deal, give me 2:17:41.040 --> 2:17:43.480 a major deal, whatever, and that this would be us 2:17:43.560 --> 2:17:45.800 control of us. Like why the funk that doesn't really 2:17:45.879 --> 2:17:49.520 happen like it might. Nobody really say it. It goes 2:17:49.560 --> 2:17:51.320 into what I've been what I've been kind of saying 2:17:51.360 --> 2:17:54.040 throughout my whole pressure run is um. We just need 2:17:54.080 --> 2:17:57.440 to start thinking more as a collective than as individuals 2:17:58.040 --> 2:18:01.400 you know, Um jay Z Puff Dre. They don't have 2:18:01.640 --> 2:18:04.240 to be their own entities, you know what I mean, 2:18:04.360 --> 2:18:07.200 Like they can also think it's collective, just like us 2:18:07.240 --> 2:18:10.160 as artists need to think more collect ship the same 2:18:10.200 --> 2:18:12.920 way that they Walker is saying that they conform something 2:18:12.920 --> 2:18:16.200 Ship me you Walker and killing Mike can form a label, 2:18:16.360 --> 2:18:18.160 you know what I mean. Like we just need to 2:18:18.200 --> 2:18:23.320 start thinking about how much more pertinent our movements would 2:18:23.360 --> 2:18:25.880 be if we started to think about the possibility of 2:18:26.000 --> 2:18:28.320 us coming together as opposed of us looking at it 2:18:28.400 --> 2:18:30.200 like we're in competition with each other. I think what 2:18:30.320 --> 2:18:33.800 Waca was saying is like the tops and then all 2:18:34.040 --> 2:18:38.720 of us will right now, right now, you one pick 2:18:38.760 --> 2:18:40.360 up the all. Like I said, I love what Alan 2:18:40.480 --> 2:18:42.040 is doing with you, and he's a good guys you 2:18:42.080 --> 2:18:45.199 know the other day, but no one would really sign 2:18:45.320 --> 2:18:47.640 with that, Like if they had a division, if they 2:18:47.680 --> 2:18:49.879 had an E one division with Dre, that people will 2:18:49.920 --> 2:18:51.080 go over there, you know what I'm saying, Like I 2:18:51.160 --> 2:18:54.480 under staying, Like I imagine one day with hip hop 2:18:54.520 --> 2:18:56.480 controlling the hip hop. This is the reason why even 2:18:56.560 --> 2:18:58.840 drink chapter is this is because we want to be 2:18:58.920 --> 2:19:01.160 the people that you know interview to ours, people have 2:19:01.280 --> 2:19:02.800 been in the locker room with you, like you know 2:19:02.840 --> 2:19:04.720 I got I don't have one album, like I don't 2:19:04.760 --> 2:19:07.760 have one hit. I haven't tremendously have a whole bunch. 2:19:07.840 --> 2:19:11.120 I have real stories playing catalog what I'm saying. And 2:19:11.600 --> 2:19:14.800 not only that, I still go to other people's shows, 2:19:14.879 --> 2:19:17.120 like Freddie Gibbs the other day was out here. I 2:19:17.200 --> 2:19:18.840 went to his show and he trying to give me 2:19:18.920 --> 2:19:20.320 the co on stage. I was like, that's not why 2:19:20.360 --> 2:19:23.600 I'm here, Like I'm here to support you and watch 2:19:23.840 --> 2:19:26.360 and I need to understand why you're the next guy 2:19:26.440 --> 2:19:29.520 for the next generation. That's I'm really a fan. I 2:19:29.640 --> 2:19:32.640 just feel like when we do can really really control. 2:19:32.720 --> 2:19:37.000 Like that's why I love, uh what everyone else is 2:19:37.040 --> 2:19:39.000 doing with me, not just us. You know what I'm saying, 2:19:39.000 --> 2:19:41.000 I salute you don't get me to be from with nobody. 2:19:41.040 --> 2:19:44.000 You don't get hit me because I don't really care. 2:19:44.120 --> 2:19:47.120 Like we're not in the competition. And that's one of 2:19:47.120 --> 2:19:48.920 the reasons why we did the deal what we did, 2:19:49.280 --> 2:19:51.680 Like we could have went other places and really really 2:19:52.200 --> 2:19:55.760 went outside the culture and really secured futures for us, 2:19:55.959 --> 2:19:57.880 but we said we were to stick with the culture, 2:19:58.360 --> 2:20:01.040 you know what I'm saying, because it's things that you know, 2:20:02.320 --> 2:20:05.160 certain companies probably won't let us say. Properties probably tell 2:20:05.200 --> 2:20:07.240 us its dumb the weed. Now certain companies and party 2:20:07.440 --> 2:20:08.920 you know, tell us, you know what I'm saying, don't 2:20:08.920 --> 2:20:11.000 interview this this guy, interview these types of people, you 2:20:11.040 --> 2:20:12.440 know what I'm saying. And we wanted to stick with 2:20:12.520 --> 2:20:15.039 the culture. But I wonder when when is the culture 2:20:15.120 --> 2:20:17.560 gonna want to stick with the coach? Like when are 2:20:17.560 --> 2:20:19.800 we gonna like you know what I'm saying somebody when 2:20:19.879 --> 2:20:22.640 it's always got to be an example, man, you know, 2:20:22.959 --> 2:20:26.480 like we trend. It's a trendy. We follow the trend, 2:20:26.560 --> 2:20:30.440 like we wanted to where to go change it? Like 2:20:33.240 --> 2:20:36.640 don't it don't have to be the top tire of 2:20:36.760 --> 2:20:38.920 money to do it, you know what I mean. So 2:20:39.720 --> 2:20:41.920 I think it's gotta it's gotta start with that because 2:20:43.320 --> 2:20:45.280 jay Z could do it, Drake could do it, they 2:20:45.320 --> 2:20:47.960 all could do it. But so for week, Wow, I 2:20:48.080 --> 2:20:49.879 love the fact that you keep saying that we gotta 2:20:49.920 --> 2:20:56.119 take those steps. So at one point Dr Dre gave 2:20:56.160 --> 2:20:58.000 you advice because he was going to you and your wife. 2:20:59.640 --> 2:21:01.840 It's like twenty years or something like twenty when he 2:21:01.920 --> 2:21:06.160 was thinking about getting his wife. Didn't girlfriend an abortion? 2:21:06.600 --> 2:21:11.520 Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah he um. He 2:21:11.640 --> 2:21:13.040 just told me not to do it. He said he 2:21:13.080 --> 2:21:15.920 didn't believe in it or an abortion. Yeah, oh no, 2:21:16.200 --> 2:21:20.440 me neither. Yeah, I mean shop, I'm either thinking now, man, 2:21:20.480 --> 2:21:23.600 I have as many as possible. You know, I got 2:21:23.640 --> 2:21:26.000 plenty of babies I got, I got, I got five 2:21:26.120 --> 2:21:29.400 kids total and ship. If my wife was witted, I 2:21:29.480 --> 2:21:35.039 have five more, ten more. I'll keep having them much 2:21:35.200 --> 2:21:41.040 that they should have worsted the five nines out there? God, 2:21:41.080 --> 2:21:47.800 damn it, nins of them. How about you? You drawn 2:21:47.879 --> 2:21:51.920 playing something out there? I'm trying to My daughter was 2:21:51.920 --> 2:21:54.440 just my god, what my god? Though? But that's my daughter, okay, 2:21:54.840 --> 2:21:56.600 so what I mean like and she got three little ones, 2:21:57.440 --> 2:22:00.640 so they like, that's my whole little team. God. So 2:22:00.760 --> 2:22:04.879 what's next for you? Man? Album? Okay, you can produce 2:22:04.959 --> 2:22:10.240 your own ship too, Yeah, don't okay, now some of 2:22:10.320 --> 2:22:13.400 that heavy listle okay, okay, now, but this one's the 2:22:13.440 --> 2:22:17.280 first one. Ye'all did everything, Okay, y'all both always produced 2:22:17.560 --> 2:22:19.280 or this was something that you just learned in the 2:22:19.360 --> 2:22:25.199 last year that's it's a year, that's it. Maybe six months. 2:22:25.280 --> 2:22:30.240 That's crazy. You like Kobe with the Beetobin ship. You know, 2:22:30.320 --> 2:22:33.960 Kobe learning Beethobin in two weeks? Did yeah? Yeah, no 2:22:34.040 --> 2:22:40.360 one else two weeks huh yeah, listening to it. He 2:22:40.400 --> 2:22:44.000 told himself, Kobe Bryant told me, Brian told himself Beetobin. 2:22:44.879 --> 2:22:48.240 He probably just he probably see he's one of those people. 2:22:48.560 --> 2:22:51.320 He has the propensity to be able to practice around 2:22:51.400 --> 2:22:55.680 the clock. I love the practice. Yeah, didn't see Kobe strue. No, 2:22:56.360 --> 2:22:58.200 come on, man, y'are like the only two niggers in 2:22:58.240 --> 2:23:02.000 the world. Michael join him another try man, man, Man, 2:23:04.240 --> 2:23:06.920 my heart, I don't cry like that. I never cried 2:23:06.959 --> 2:23:08.520 like that, but I don't want my line like I 2:23:08.560 --> 2:23:10.760 don't want to cry. Yeah, I never cried like that, 2:23:10.840 --> 2:23:12.640 but you know what it was. It was just something 2:23:13.000 --> 2:23:15.680 I just couldn't turn away because I actually this is 2:23:15.760 --> 2:23:19.000 my ghost right in thing. I actually did a record 2:23:19.040 --> 2:23:21.879 with Kobe, and I wanted to write his rhymes so bad, 2:23:21.959 --> 2:23:24.160 Like if you actually put up that record that he 2:23:24.280 --> 2:23:28.360 got that he's biting my side, Bro, he's trying to 2:23:28.400 --> 2:23:30.680 sound like me. Bro. Listen, I'm just telling you this 2:23:30.720 --> 2:23:33.400 is real. Ship. It's real ship that's white like he 2:23:33.480 --> 2:23:36.640 went to track Masters. I'm saying like he like bite 2:23:36.680 --> 2:23:39.320 me nas and like hold I forget to drink where 2:23:39.360 --> 2:23:42.360 he's he's um with a suit on. He's like he's 2:23:42.360 --> 2:23:45.800 biting my like the Iraq. But you know how I 2:23:45.879 --> 2:23:48.920 usually that you know, you know, back whatever. But so 2:23:49.000 --> 2:23:51.400 I was so, you know, wanting to write his rhyme, 2:23:51.720 --> 2:23:54.320 and Kobe looked at me like Kobe Bryant, I got 2:23:54.360 --> 2:23:57.520 my own ship, was like, oh ship, So I went 2:23:58.600 --> 2:24:00.480 I watched this ship and then Michael Jordan comes up. 2:24:01.760 --> 2:24:05.400 And Michael Jordan comes up, he goes, I'm gonna be 2:24:05.480 --> 2:24:08.879 another criming mean for the next two years because he's 2:24:08.920 --> 2:24:11.760 the ugliest cry ever you ever seen. Oh Michael Jordan 2:24:11.879 --> 2:24:14.840 cries hugly bro Like that's an ugly crying. My dude, 2:24:14.920 --> 2:24:17.680 like he cries like he just like he like pieces 2:24:17.680 --> 2:24:22.520 of ship. But yeah, but the Kobe um and it 2:24:22.640 --> 2:24:25.280 was it was also another thing that that struck me 2:24:25.400 --> 2:24:29.080 is um. He said that Mike went to see Phil 2:24:29.200 --> 2:24:32.080 Jackson one day. And when we went to see Phil Jackson, 2:24:32.879 --> 2:24:34.480 the first thing Kobe said is, you know you bring 2:24:34.560 --> 2:24:41.040 your shoes, Like he constantly like competitive, like competitive. Did 2:24:41.120 --> 2:24:43.560 you feel like that with Renegade, with with eminem because 2:24:43.600 --> 2:24:46.360 everyone really says that this is the one time that 2:24:46.520 --> 2:24:49.160 Jay took up took a loss with with people? Did 2:24:49.360 --> 2:24:51.720 did you know I feel like that about our version 2:24:51.840 --> 2:24:54.600 or their version, which whatever version you want. Oh, well, 2:24:54.680 --> 2:24:58.280 when we yeah, when we did our version, Um, we 2:24:58.360 --> 2:25:05.240 didn't realize that it had the potential to be that special. Yeah, 2:25:05.280 --> 2:25:07.959 we had a lot of songs already and I think 2:25:08.040 --> 2:25:11.320 it's me and Marshall, so that was one of the 2:25:11.480 --> 2:25:15.440 same verse. Yeah that was on with you okay, but 2:25:15.560 --> 2:25:19.440 see me and him, we approached the beat similar, very similar, 2:25:20.040 --> 2:25:24.240 So we attacked it the same. So take me off 2:25:24.920 --> 2:25:27.120 and then have Ja come in and put his verses 2:25:27.200 --> 2:25:30.080 on there, and he attacks the beat totally different. He 2:25:30.680 --> 2:25:34.120 b yeah, he lays back in the pocket. Did J 2:25:34.320 --> 2:25:35.959 get to hear his verses? First of all, you don't 2:25:35.959 --> 2:25:39.600 know that, okay, okay, okay verses. And then when J 2:25:39.800 --> 2:25:42.960 lay his it became magic. It became it didn't sound 2:25:43.040 --> 2:25:44.960 like that when with me on there like to me, 2:25:45.120 --> 2:25:47.200 to me, that's a great record, I've never kind of 2:25:47.320 --> 2:25:49.800 and I get slacked for saying this on this I 2:25:49.879 --> 2:25:52.360 think Earth came on here. I get slacked for saying this. 2:25:52.480 --> 2:25:54.680 I always look at the record like a great record. 2:25:54.720 --> 2:25:57.800 I've never really looked at like who outshine who? You 2:25:57.879 --> 2:25:59.360 know what I'm saying. I get that this is a 2:25:59.400 --> 2:26:03.680 competitive sport. Yeah, that the people. But but to me, 2:26:03.840 --> 2:26:06.280 I don't feel like I should get criticism for just 2:26:06.360 --> 2:26:08.320 looking at the record that saying all right, look look 2:26:08.480 --> 2:26:11.160 says painting for right. I just look at that art, 2:26:11.200 --> 2:26:13.920 I said, painting for I love. It's the certain individuals 2:26:13.920 --> 2:26:16.840 that's say that paint is perfect. Yeah, and it's certainly 2:26:17.200 --> 2:26:19.720 gonna say the fall is perfect. It's all perspective. That's 2:26:19.720 --> 2:26:21.480 what I'm saying to me, per I just I just 2:26:21.600 --> 2:26:23.200 love the art. I think the way that they had, 2:26:23.440 --> 2:26:25.840 the way that they attacked it, they attacked it too 2:26:26.000 --> 2:26:29.080 totally separate different ways, so it's hard to compare to 2:26:29.160 --> 2:26:32.680 two it. All of it almost just boils down the preference. 2:26:32.720 --> 2:26:35.840 It's what you prefer, what style you prefer, you know 2:26:35.879 --> 2:26:37.960 what I mean? J did it his way. It's not 2:26:38.080 --> 2:26:40.840 the illest J versus you're gonna hear M did it 2:26:40.920 --> 2:26:43.080 his way. It's not the illest in versions you're gonna hear. 2:26:43.120 --> 2:26:45.800 But them together as a marriage and it being on 2:26:45.879 --> 2:26:50.040 a blueprint to Special Man's Special. It didn't sound like 2:26:50.120 --> 2:26:51.760 that when it was me and Marska. You did you 2:26:51.840 --> 2:26:54.040 think it's because Nas put it out there with Nas 2:26:54.120 --> 2:26:57.480 by eating He said, Immine invited you on your own hip, 2:26:57.560 --> 2:27:00.920 you know that something? Yeah, feeling that put people in 2:27:03.080 --> 2:27:04.880 because that was a classic moment, you know what I mean. 2:27:05.000 --> 2:27:07.879 So of course that's gone. You know what I mean. 2:27:08.879 --> 2:27:10.920 I love hip hop man, and I'm just thinking about 2:27:11.280 --> 2:27:13.120 I said you was staying, you know what I mean, 2:27:13.280 --> 2:27:15.960 and and coined that phrase you know what I mean? 2:27:16.920 --> 2:27:21.880 Scam alright, bick up SCA's I love hip hop man? Yeah, 2:27:25.320 --> 2:27:27.640 so what what what makes you? What makes you keep 2:27:27.680 --> 2:27:31.640 going though? Like I mean, listen, I'm gonna be honest. 2:27:32.360 --> 2:27:34.680 I got tired of this game at one point. At 2:27:34.720 --> 2:27:36.360 one point I didn't want to look at the mic, 2:27:36.440 --> 2:27:38.920 I didn't want to look at the stage. I just 2:27:39.000 --> 2:27:41.720 wanted to get so far. I really had lost it, 2:27:41.840 --> 2:27:43.600 Like it took a lot for me to come back 2:27:44.640 --> 2:27:46.840 and get And I remember Ferrell Imember with me calling 2:27:46.879 --> 2:27:48.920 Farrell and Frells like I don't do hip hop no 2:27:49.000 --> 2:27:50.800 more and me being like, what the are you talking? 2:27:50.800 --> 2:27:52.720 About motherfucker, are you gonna give me a beat? And 2:27:52.840 --> 2:27:56.199 I like I had didn't. I didn't know that sometimes 2:27:56.240 --> 2:27:58.160 you get out of the zone like I didn't know, 2:27:58.360 --> 2:28:01.160 like sometimes you just need to going to your own world. 2:28:01.400 --> 2:28:05.480 Have you ever felt like that? Um Nah? I think 2:28:05.560 --> 2:28:08.280 with me when I was a little bit of love 2:28:08.360 --> 2:28:11.160 for it, I never lost any love for it when 2:28:11.200 --> 2:28:14.080 I when I got sober, it just was a reset. 2:28:14.560 --> 2:28:16.320 But like you had a girl cheat on you before? 2:28:16.959 --> 2:28:19.040 Have I had a girl cheating before? Like you know, like, 2:28:19.440 --> 2:28:22.600 let me what's growing up? Yep in high school? But 2:28:23.200 --> 2:28:24.920 come on hip hop and cheating on you? You never 2:28:25.040 --> 2:28:27.280 felt bad? You don't remember how the hip hop cheat 2:28:27.320 --> 2:28:32.480 on me? What do you mean? We gave six nine respect. 2:28:36.000 --> 2:28:39.280 He's an affraternity regardless if you like it or not. Man, 2:28:39.360 --> 2:28:41.560 you know what, bro that got even the same thing though, 2:28:41.720 --> 2:28:45.960 Yeah he's infraternity. He is a rapper. Like I always 2:28:46.040 --> 2:28:49.840 felt like whenever I did something, I figured out to 2:28:49.959 --> 2:28:52.959 make it just my place in hip hop. I carved 2:28:53.000 --> 2:28:55.240 out my own place, you know what I mean? So 2:28:55.320 --> 2:28:58.080 I never felt I never felt like, um, I was 2:28:58.160 --> 2:29:00.600 on the outside of something that was happening. I just 2:29:00.680 --> 2:29:02.720 somehow I figured out the way to just survive all 2:29:02.760 --> 2:29:06.520 the different all the different like ways the hip hop 2:29:06.640 --> 2:29:08.760 evolved in all the different spaces that it was in. 2:29:08.920 --> 2:29:11.040 Whenever I needed to release some music, I found a 2:29:11.080 --> 2:29:13.760 way to just make it exists with whatever was happening 2:29:13.840 --> 2:29:16.560 at the time, and that that kind of chases a 2:29:16.640 --> 2:29:18.320 little bit fun to me, you know. But when I 2:29:18.360 --> 2:29:20.440 got sober, it was like I was starting all over 2:29:20.560 --> 2:29:23.760 because everything that I did drunk, it was like a 2:29:23.840 --> 2:29:25.840 thing of the past to me, because my approach to 2:29:25.920 --> 2:29:28.000 the music was totally different, because it was like, now 2:29:28.040 --> 2:29:30.000 I'm clicking on our cylinders. So it just gave me 2:29:30.080 --> 2:29:33.080 a whole new reason to just kind of start over 2:29:33.160 --> 2:29:35.240 and build my brand from a different Plus I had 2:29:35.240 --> 2:29:37.040 a better understanding of how to build a brand at 2:29:37.080 --> 2:29:40.320 that point too. So first it felt like this would 2:29:40.320 --> 2:29:45.240 never happen. But I feel like, oh, slaughter House, it 2:29:45.440 --> 2:29:48.480 might be happening. Another slaughter House happen. Why do you 2:29:48.520 --> 2:29:57.000 feel like that, that's not that's not the card. That 2:29:59.000 --> 2:30:01.520 no way, that's never what happened, That had never happened. 2:30:01.600 --> 2:30:05.120 That's not possible. Nobody, nobody in Slaughterhouse could be replaced. Bro. 2:30:06.320 --> 2:30:09.280 You know, like if you if you replace like why 2:30:09.360 --> 2:30:15.720 being Cordor, I mean Corday. It look if you if 2:30:15.720 --> 2:30:18.280 you put Corday in there instead of somebody else, then 2:30:18.320 --> 2:30:25.240 it's a whole different group. Florida huh house a little okay, 2:30:26.800 --> 2:30:32.680 different about I'm walking around I'm talking about But man, listen, 2:30:32.760 --> 2:30:42.440 man man man hip hop is so beautiful. Man. So 2:30:42.640 --> 2:30:44.920 so what's what's the what's the next transition? Like after this? 2:30:45.520 --> 2:30:48.400 Is it? Is it? Is it? Getting the movies? Is it? 2:30:48.560 --> 2:30:50.960 What is it? I never had a desire to do 2:30:51.120 --> 2:30:53.800 movies ever. I never had a desire to act for 2:30:53.879 --> 2:30:55.560 some reason. I don't know why, because that seems like 2:30:55.640 --> 2:31:00.160 the obvious next step for most raptors to me. I'm 2:31:00.200 --> 2:31:04.000 having fun in the production round. Um, that's what Chuck 2:31:04.080 --> 2:31:06.360 D said. I think Chuck D say, yeah, yeah, I 2:31:06.480 --> 2:31:08.680 have no desire to But but I'm you know, I don't. 2:31:08.760 --> 2:31:15.840 I don't close the door on the because I never know. 2:31:16.160 --> 2:31:17.840 I never know what I'm gonna wake up and want 2:31:17.879 --> 2:31:21.080 to do. But whatever that is, you know, if I 2:31:21.200 --> 2:31:23.160 decided to take it on, man, I just put my 2:31:23.240 --> 2:31:25.000 best foot forward and put into work and then just 2:31:25.080 --> 2:31:28.040 try to get good at it. But right now I 2:31:28.160 --> 2:31:31.480 know that I'm not much of a multitasker, so um, 2:31:33.480 --> 2:31:36.400 once I'm done making albums, my passion is to put 2:31:36.480 --> 2:31:39.119 it into the next generation, the next group of artists 2:31:39.160 --> 2:31:42.400 that we're gonna be working with under heaven. You know 2:31:42.440 --> 2:31:45.119 what I'm saying. That's that's that's my company, Heaving Studios. 2:31:45.280 --> 2:31:48.560 I'll see that. Ashley Surrell. Ashley Surrell, she's on my album. 2:31:48.640 --> 2:31:51.480 I'll heard her on my album. She's like nine songs 2:31:51.560 --> 2:31:56.520 in man, phenomenal. Bro It's phenomenal, And I'm excited for her. 2:31:57.560 --> 2:31:59.560 I'm excited to the possibilities of what the ship is 2:31:59.600 --> 2:32:02.240 gonna say, Like when it's finished, I'm producing on it 2:32:02.360 --> 2:32:05.240 as well. I'm excited about that. You know what I'm saying. 2:32:05.280 --> 2:32:08.400 He's producing on it. The course, my man b Jones 2:32:08.520 --> 2:32:11.120 is producing on it. Who's another young producer coming up 2:32:11.320 --> 2:32:14.520 phenomenon And you know, like, I want to be able 2:32:14.560 --> 2:32:16.800 to give her all of my attention that she needs 2:32:16.920 --> 2:32:20.879 without you know, making making my own albums and trying 2:32:20.920 --> 2:32:23.200 to focus on her at the same time. Yeah, I 2:32:23.240 --> 2:32:24.960 can't do that. I can't do that. How about you? 2:32:25.080 --> 2:32:28.120 What are you thinking about acting on anything else? I 2:32:28.240 --> 2:32:30.840 think the only right now for me is like doing. 2:32:31.200 --> 2:32:33.600 I never really put my fund into the solo realm, 2:32:34.040 --> 2:32:35.960 so that's what my mother does. But I'm gonna change 2:32:36.160 --> 2:32:38.440 what I'm doing. I want people to look at I 2:32:38.520 --> 2:32:41.200 feel like what I'm about to do with this record 2:32:41.320 --> 2:32:44.400 is like make people change their whole perspective on restarting 2:32:44.480 --> 2:32:46.760 and age all of that. I'm taking all of that 2:32:46.800 --> 2:32:48.640 out the way. So you've got the spikes on two 2:32:49.400 --> 2:32:53.320 taking it. I'm literally like you, like you tell them 2:32:53.320 --> 2:32:58.240 the warriors to come out, come out, you know, you know, 2:32:58.480 --> 2:33:00.840 you know. I don't want it to be looked at. 2:33:00.920 --> 2:33:04.040 Is one thing like that since people mixing up, I 2:33:04.040 --> 2:33:06.680 feel like Drake sing and wrapping all that ship, like, 2:33:06.800 --> 2:33:09.320 but you don't do it. You're gonna do it right. 2:33:09.360 --> 2:33:12.879 I mean, you guys are legendary, man. Um. I want 2:33:12.920 --> 2:33:14.879 to thank both of your brothers man for coming out 2:33:14.959 --> 2:33:18.080 here man just kicking hip hop man, because I still 2:33:18.080 --> 2:33:20.760 see it, Like I said always, I really looked at 2:33:20.800 --> 2:33:23.200 all your interviews and I really and I was like, damn, 2:33:23.240 --> 2:33:26.440 this is a great run man, And I really want 2:33:26.480 --> 2:33:27.920 to say you deserve it. You know what I'm saying, 2:33:27.959 --> 2:33:30.680 You deserve it because um, you're doing it the right way. 2:33:30.720 --> 2:33:33.879 You being the purist and you're making grown up fucking 2:33:34.000 --> 2:33:35.959 raps like you know what I'm saying, you're making age 2:33:36.000 --> 2:33:38.760 appropriate music, like you ain't sitting there talking about you 2:33:38.800 --> 2:33:41.480 know what, like you know what I'm saying, Like that's 2:33:41.480 --> 2:33:45.160 when he's eighteen. Goddamn it. Like we can't keep doing that. So, um, 2:33:45.520 --> 2:33:46.879 you know, I want to thank you, man, I want 2:33:46.879 --> 2:33:49.280 to appreciate. But we got a couple more minutes, right, 2:33:50.200 --> 2:33:53.200 we got a good woman. So anything else you we 2:33:53.280 --> 2:33:55.600 want to say, you know what, a man to add 2:33:55.640 --> 2:33:59.680 on what we were saying about. Um about helping the 2:33:59.800 --> 2:34:03.480 young is developed. That's another thing, like our studio, like 2:34:03.560 --> 2:34:05.800 having studios, the studio, we want to turn that ship 2:34:05.879 --> 2:34:08.920 into like a hub, you know, like if you just 2:34:09.000 --> 2:34:11.640 think of let's use Deaf Jam for an example. Right, 2:34:11.680 --> 2:34:15.000 Paul is over there, like all of the left right, yeah, 2:34:15.000 --> 2:34:17.040 he just left, but all of the artists on that 2:34:17.240 --> 2:34:20.800 roster that is just kind of sitting. Imagine if it 2:34:20.959 --> 2:34:23.200 was just like something we could do where we cut 2:34:23.280 --> 2:34:24.760 some type of deal with the label, they could just 2:34:24.760 --> 2:34:28.119 send him because I know Proof's son to sign. Phenomenal 2:34:28.720 --> 2:34:33.080 phenomenal young artists people like that come through young rock 2:34:33.879 --> 2:34:37.040 we helped develop them, make sure that they get the 2:34:37.080 --> 2:34:40.440 records that they need, and by the time we've done 2:34:40.520 --> 2:34:42.800 with them, you know, they're totally efficient out here to 2:34:42.879 --> 2:34:44.280 be able to grow, you know what I mean, Like, 2:34:44.640 --> 2:34:46.240 it's exactly what you said you want to do. We 2:34:46.360 --> 2:34:47.480 want to do the same thing. That's why I was 2:34:47.520 --> 2:34:54.440 saying we should work together. Yeah, yeah, well I was 2:34:54.480 --> 2:34:56.240 saying anything else you want to do. I mean, that's 2:34:56.280 --> 2:34:59.560 pretty That's that's where we are. I think that's our narrative. 2:34:59.640 --> 2:35:02.000 That's what you trying to like as a team. That's 2:35:02.040 --> 2:35:04.240 what we're trying to do. It's like when you think 2:35:04.240 --> 2:35:07.560 of Jimmy jam and Terry looks to me that it's 2:35:07.600 --> 2:35:10.320 that new version of that I need to beat, nigga. 2:35:10.440 --> 2:35:15.440 Look at the look at the eyes I need to beat. 2:35:15.480 --> 2:35:22.240 They could bring me out of the driver, I know, 2:35:22.320 --> 2:35:25.160 if y'all know, man, our show was about celebrating the 2:35:25.200 --> 2:35:28.440 people's lives and their careers while they are alive. The 2:35:28.560 --> 2:35:31.160 fact that so many people would say, you know, this 2:35:31.320 --> 2:35:33.600 is great, these guys are great. When we passed away, man, 2:35:33.640 --> 2:35:35.560 we want to do that now. Like I just seemed 2:35:35.560 --> 2:35:37.720 the image of pop smoke and it's great. You know, 2:35:38.040 --> 2:35:39.920 big up to the people in Paris who participated in 2:35:40.080 --> 2:35:43.320 making a hologram image of pop smoke. But I tell 2:35:43.320 --> 2:35:45.320 you what would be ill, like, you know, start doing 2:35:45.360 --> 2:35:48.240 hologram images of people who are alive. Like you know 2:35:48.280 --> 2:35:50.720 what I'm saying, Like like a ship Nica feel good 2:35:50.760 --> 2:35:53.000 while he here? You know what I'm saying, Like ship 2:35:53.160 --> 2:35:56.480 Nigga Drake deserve a holograms sucking put your teeth, fucking 2:35:56.520 --> 2:35:58.879 voice sucking, Rick Ross fucking you know what I'm saying, 2:35:58.920 --> 2:36:01.800 Boston rhymes, fat your You know what I'm saying. Everyone 2:36:01.920 --> 2:36:05.360 like making a thing, don't make it a thing for 2:36:05.440 --> 2:36:07.840 people that's dead. Making for a thing for people that's alive. 2:36:07.920 --> 2:36:09.840 And that's no. This to the people who actually did that, 2:36:09.879 --> 2:36:11.720 because I thought that was couraging. I thought it was dope, 2:36:12.000 --> 2:36:15.120 But I also think it's backwards because I want to 2:36:15.200 --> 2:36:17.520 show people love where they're alive. This way, it's a 2:36:17.560 --> 2:36:20.560 celebration when they're gone, because we was already it's a 2:36:20.600 --> 2:36:23.959 continued celebration. Guess what, we was already celebrating. Your monkey 2:36:23.959 --> 2:36:29.400 asks when you was here, you understand said just do 2:36:29.520 --> 2:36:36.000 some drops. Thanks for joining us for another episode of 2:36:36.080 --> 2:36:38.560 Drink Champs. Hosted by yours truly d J e F 2:36:39.080 --> 2:36:41.160 and n O r E. Please make sure to follow 2:36:41.240 --> 2:36:43.800 us on all our socials. 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