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Speaker 1: even this. This came nowhere near that. No cause got made?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like we did that. We did the bickering

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep I'm gonna continue to just keep doing

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Speaker 1: I mean, was was that meant to be a skit?

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Speaker 1: Was that a convoy y'all recorded for something else? And

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Speaker 1: me and me and M. I ain't spoke to him

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Speaker 1: You know, Um, perspective is like a big, big topic

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Speaker 1: just like, why is it being recorded there? No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: by Paul, that's his partner, So he um sent it

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Speaker 1: to Paul. Paul just took it. Paul has a way

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Speaker 1: Paul edit it. Yeah, Paul edited because Paul. You know,

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00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: Paul is an attorney, right Paul. So Paul took the

425
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: fluff out, you know what I mean, Like he edited

426
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: out all the fluff and then made it a straight thought,

427
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he you probably cut

428
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: it down and like, what was it six minutes maybe? Yeah,

429
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: And he cut it down and that's what what you

430
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: guys heard is is is what he edited it down to.

431
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: But there's still six minutes of cutting room floor stuff

432
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: that didn't That makes some forgot got that the first

433
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: time you stopped to for real, y'all battled on the

434
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 1: phone the very first time. Yes, I didn't know what

435
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: to see. Will remember this, I'm sure you remember this.

436
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: It was me Forrell Marshall. And there's a group from

437
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: Ohio called the Clinic. I can't remember how many of

438
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: them it was, but the niggas was nice, so it

439
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: was the clinic, it was Forrell, it was me, it

440
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: was Marshall, and everybody was taking turns, just rapping on

441
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: the phone on the phone. This is uh, this is

442
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 1: still the nineties because this is before this is this

443
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: is before he got signed. This is at least ninety nine,

444
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: he meaning because this is before Marshall got signed, but before.

445
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: If it's nine, then that's the super Dog that's after

446
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: what what So this is before that? Then this is

447
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: before that. Well, super came out, came out of ninety eight. Yeah,

448
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: so they got to be ninety seven. Yeah, so man,

449
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: so maybe you know what it might be the beginning

450
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: of the the ninety eight because came out of June. This

451
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: is definitely before that broke. I would have known him

452
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: from you, okay, what I was spotting you? Okay, so

453
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: we we didn't know him, Yeah, we didn't know that time.

454
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: Yea even ill so you don't even know what this is.

455
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: So I know he's a producer, but I don't know him.

456
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: I have I don't connect him to you, Okay, you

457
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So Rob was Rob Walker, um,

458
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: Rob Walker Erica. They're working at Quest Records. You remember

459
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: when Rob work a and R is in Quest Records,

460
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: and he's like, um, yeah, Rob got this uh in

461
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: Derrick Jackson, Derk Jackson, Quest is Quincy Jones Labor. Yes, yes,

462
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: for people who don't know Derrick Jackson's that's the one

463
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: who started master the Scott story. After that, yes, okay,

464
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: time of Boy Records, Okay accent he talking the most ship.

465
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, nigga, like he didn't one who

466
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: put the clinic on the phone, and you know, they

467
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: all like, yeah, I got my nigga. Well I got

468
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: my nigga. So Rob had for real, uh Rick had,

469
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: Eric had me, I had Marshall. I brought him in

470
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: and then um yeah yeah so we so we were

471
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: on the phone and then we all just going, everybody

472
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: just going taking turns going, and all while we rapping.

473
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: Marshall yeah yeah, everyone and who else is on this

474
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: phone and everyone, everybody including for a holy and I'll

475
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: remember for real, he reminded me a lot of nos.

476
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: I remember thinking he's smooth, super smooth with it. He's

477
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: kept rapping about the band's wagon. He kept saying something

478
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: about the band's wagon, and I remember I kept saying,

479
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: what then what is no? Did I look at it

480
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: in retrospect, the nigga probably had two or three of

481
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: the moment I looked back in time, I said, looking

482
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 1: for Roles, watch this right now. I'm a big watch guy, right,

483
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't it back then, But I just look at

484
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: his watches and I like this cheap ass brother watched

485
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: Years later I figured out that was a fucking Richard male.

486
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: Ye had one back then, not nine the nineties. I'm

487
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: like mid two, thou know what I'm saying. No one

488
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: knew what the robber watch was like. Like if we

489
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: had G shops, you got all right now, brother, then

490
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: you get a lot of one. Well yea, So he's

491
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: been his advanced, but that's crazy advance that that that

492
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: you were like, that means you actually spoke to him

493
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: prior to me, because because I met him, I met

494
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: him one day throughout the next day and then recorded

495
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: Winning the next day, So that means you technically met

496
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: for realm before me. But you got in the studio

497
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: with him for I got the shoot and I knew it.

498
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I knew, like I knew as soon as I met

499
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: it is weird, as I said, yeah, look as soon

500
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: as he came to me, he was like he said,

501
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: no one listens to me. The first person who listens

502
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: to me is gonna get number one. And I said,

503
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: did he say that? He said that, Bro, He's a

504
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: amatonic jewel dropper And for some rejews, I believe them,

505
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Like listen, by the way I got to know more

506
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: record at the time I got R E. Norri stands

507
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: for Nigga's on the Run Eating. My album's done. Rob

508
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: walk Up talks so Mary Moore and they get me

509
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: in the studio and it's like he's like, your album's

510
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: not done. Like he was cocky was back then, like

511
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: like what, it's just for all this is no, this

512
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: is for all the chat. But Bro has always been

513
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: the front morning. He's always been like Chad is there

514
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: but for so so He's like, no, your album is

515
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: not done. And I'm like, I'm like, dude, Like that's

516
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: how cocky he was back then. I'm like, dude, I

517
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: actually literally handed in my album. He's like, it's not done.

518
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: So if this is to Super Doug, listen to what

519
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: what what at the end like your eat nor the

520
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: remix because we try to sneak it on as a remix.

521
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying because the album was already done.

522
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: But moving on. So um, I also heard you the

523
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: reason why no artist is allowed to go to Tom

524
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: Superman's apartment. Uh, I feel bad about that, man. Come

525
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: on and I feel bad. Let's get into it right there.

526
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: I sold. Then I sold. This is the that I

527
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: sold tuning in for right now you was in Okay,

528
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah. So um I did. I did a meeting.

529
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: I did a meeting with Tommy Boy, me and Eric.

530
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: We did a meeting with Tommy Boy. Um with a

531
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: cat named Tyrone. Tyrone. This is after you made a

532
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: decision to go with Tommy Boy or Dr Dre. This

533
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: is for this is before, So this is this is

534
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: first we did. First we did the meeting, he said,

535
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: he said he fun with the music. I think he

536
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: passed it. He passed, he passed. So Um. When I

537
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: started working with Dre and Marshall, I was working with

538
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: Dre on the Chronic. You know, word got around the

539
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: industry that I was working with Marshall and Drake. I did.

540
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: That was around them and everybody on the East coast.

541
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: All the labels on the East Coast wanted to meet again.

542
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: You know, once they found out of course. So I

543
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: went back and I met with Tommy Boy with the

544
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: same records. Did he have an adeline on when Tom

545
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: silver Um, I don't remember the home said yeah, yeah

546
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: on a regular day weird ship in the world and

547
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: looking like ye running. Yeah. So when when I went back,

548
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: the meeting was a little bit different, you know, like

549
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: it's like the whole staff was in there, but it

550
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: was kind of like and everybody was all excited about

551
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 1: these same records that they passed on. So um, one

552
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: thing led to another. I ended up signing to deal

553
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: with them. Um they gave me a million dollars. So um,

554
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: I feel like we gotta make some noise. Come on, man,

555
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry forget Yeah. So um so Tom Silverman he

556
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: bet the farm on me sort of speak. I think

557
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I think that was

558
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: the last kind of deal like that that he did.

559
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: He really believed in me. That's why I got and

560
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: this is this is two thousand and this is ship Okay, yeah, yeah,

561
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm two thousands. Yeah, because I didn't get the Timy

562
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Boy yet. I remember, yeah, okay, because I remember remember

563
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: there from the beginning there. Yeah, yeah, you know what

564
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: I remember because you were there prior to me, and

565
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: I was always on the timeboy, but time boards I'm

566
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: on penalty was own by Tommy Boy. But then they

567
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: kicked penalty out and then I was fully on time Boy.

568
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: But you was there. Pride, That's why I know, yes

569
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: had to be. You was one of the reasons why

570
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: I went over there. Listen, let me just say you

571
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: something about Tom Silman. A lot of people that get slack.

572
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: If you show Tom Simmerman that you're working and you

573
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: got something like he will put the break up. He

574
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: would like, we just said, that's why you see. I

575
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: didn't flinch, but it's just it's just I feel like,

576
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, hearing that I sold story like um and

577
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: hearing the practices that he takes, he owes a lot

578
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: more to hip hop. Like they think about it is

579
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: this we know we signed these these these kids deals

580
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: and used it and then for it to be twenty

581
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: five years thirty years later. I think I think people

582
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: deserve it like UMU, whether you were cooped or not.

583
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: If you have an album for thirty years, twenty years,

584
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: twenty five years, I think the rightful thing to do

585
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: is split it. Yeah, because everything else is changing exactly everything.

586
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: Like if you if you own my album for twenty

587
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: if I wanted your album with twenty years ago and

588
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: you came to me and say, Yo, Nori, let's do

589
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: a split. No no, not only would I want to

590
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: split it with you, but because I know you would

591
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: want to go out there and promote it. Like I

592
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: feel sad sometimes when when I go online and I

593
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: stream a Daylight Soul so a show and they won't

594
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: even do those records, like they don't make anything out

595
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: the polish inside. They won't even perform sometimes, like at

596
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: least I see, like you know, Trutch and Naughty by Nature,

597
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: at least they'll they'll perform those records and stuff like that.

598
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Like sometimes like I want to hear potholes in my lawn,

599
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I want to hear

600
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but that that that that boughted me.

601
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: So Tom Shimman, I don't know if you're listening, but yeah,

602
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: I think you can make it right man. I think

603
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: it's not too late, you know what I'm saying. Moving on, So,

604
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: so what happened in the apartment though, so um so

605
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: we needed somewhere to stay at um in order for

606
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: me to to record the album. So he gave us.

607
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: He gave us his apartment, you know, one of his

608
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: spots that he had. Uh, he's subleasing this big gass apartment.

609
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say where because I don't know if

610
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: he still has it, no problem, but it was a

611
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: great it's a great apartment, man, it's a great apartment.

612
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: And I know I remember just being in there. I

613
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: remember just being in there and little to all of them.

614
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: My um My, my, my bro, my Bro came into town.

615
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: This was when um Marshall wanted the move man, if

616
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: he should want his first move man. That night we

617
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: were all just like happy for him, you know what

618
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, And everybody was like drunk and high. And

619
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I remember it being about ten fifteen niggas in the

620
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: apartment and everybody's from Detroit. Everybody flew in and everybody

621
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: was standing in my well, it was my apartment at

622
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: the time in my mind, you know, so you're occupying it.

623
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: I just remember. I just remember um My big Bro

624
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 1: getting into it with somebody and the he brow with him,

625
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: and I remember them having words and grabbing each other,

626
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: and I remember my Bro grabbing them and pulling them

627
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: into the bathroom and slamming the door behind them, and

628
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm hearing nothing but just rockets in the bathroom, and

629
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: I was just thinking to myself, like, it's not gonna

630
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: be good. This is not gonna be good. It's not

631
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna be good in there. YO. So about about five

632
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: minutes later, they come out breathing all hard, and I

633
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: hear my big bro like, because what the dude was

634
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be like muscle and he was like a

635
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: was supposed to be able to throw your big ass

636
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: around like that. Oh my god. I go in the bathroom,

637
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: but and the fucking shower out is torn down, the

638
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: mirrors off the wall, and in the wall. Bro, it

639
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: couldn't be worse than what I saw in there. And

640
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: I remember just thinking to myself, like damn. And then

641
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, they stayed for a couple of days, so

642
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: the whole apartment was kind of like trash. It looked

643
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: like some rockers that stayed there. So, um, the housekeeping

644
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: lady came and she didn't even clean it. She just looked.

645
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: She just took one look at it and turned around

646
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: and walked off. And she did like a report. I

647
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: guess weekly she has to do it like a report.

648
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: She did a report and she said, and I quote

649
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: people to do that. I quote she said, it looked

650
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: like a crack house in there. That's what she told

651
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: That's what she told. Her reference point was what was

652
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: Tom's phone call to you. I never spoke to Tom

653
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: Silverman after that. I never spoke to him after that.

654
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: They just told us we had to get out the apartment.

655
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: And when I went to turn the album and we

656
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: had a meeting, it was time at that meeting, the

657
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: last meeting. Now he wasn't even that eating. So we

658
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: went to play the album and they wait until we

659
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: were done. We had five Neptune Records, five Neptune Records

660
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: to just Blaze Records. Um, who else do we have either,

661
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: we have Primo Records. We had a star studied lineup

662
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 1: of producers, and um, after we were done playing a record,

663
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, okay, yeah, we we liked the songs,

664
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: but we don't know who you are not listening to

665
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: these songs. And I couldn't, for the life of me,

666
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: figure out what the funk they were talking about. I

667
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: thought they were hating. I was doing that accountability thing

668
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: that we do when were young. I couldn't hold myself

669
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: accountable for ship. I was like, they're hating on me,

670
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: and they didn't end up accepting the album, so they

671
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: didn't release it. And that's how I ended up getting

672
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: released from Tommy Boys, so I can move to Sony

673
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: to Colombia. Wow. That that that's how the Tommy Boy

674
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: thing ended. I wasn't able to there's an album to

675
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: them that they felt was and you think you think

676
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: that was close to the department thing, or because you

677
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: think that that that you wasn't showing them in retrospect,

678
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: the apartment thing probably had a little bit to do

679
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: with it. But I didn't know how to make album.

680
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: I just didn't you know, it was a cohesive album. Yeah,

681
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: it wasn't cohesive. It was probably it was all over

682
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: the place. If I can remember back properly, it was

683
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: just a bunch of different songs. I was wrapping good

684
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: on all the songs, but there wasn't a complete thought.

685
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: And that's people wonder why to this day I use skits.

686
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: And but when that person said to you, we don't

687
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: know who you are now, I think that that was

688
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: great advice. Yes, yes, I think that I thought that

689
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: was artistic critique of that album, Yes, I didn't understand it.

690
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: I think that I think that every artist should do

691
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: at least one self defining album. I think that every

692
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: artist should find there's owns self definition. The b could

693
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: we not have more noises happening in this episode? Yeah,

694
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: so that that self, that self defining thing. You gotta

695
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: go out and you gotta find that. You gotta find

696
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: out who you are, and once you get to that

697
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: place where you know who you are, express that, and

698
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: preferably if you could do with your first album, so

699
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: you can get that out the way, it can be

700
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: like an introduction, kind of like how reasonable doubt is,

701
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: how eomatic is. If you could do that, you know,

702
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: war Report exactly, If you could do that from there,

703
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: it's very easy to build the brand from there. That's

704
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: kind of crazy for me to hear you say that, though.

705
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy for me to hear that you

706
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: didn't think your first was that it wasn't it wasn't

707
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, reporting about because I was fresh out of

708
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: the open mics, So I was fresh off that phone

709
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: call with Reil and them. You know what I'm saying,

710
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Like I was a battle rapper, I was I just

711
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, my first love was battling mcs, rapping about

712
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: how good I could wrap, impressing other mcs. My only

713
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: dream was just to be accepted by red Man and

714
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: rass Cash. Buy what I'm saying, You know what I mean?

715
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: So you know, like I did all my evolving in

716
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: the fire. You know what I'm saying is that recording process.

717
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: M did a joint with the Neptunes around this time. No,

718
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: he um, I remember I was getting in the studio

719
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: with for real Um for the for the because they're

720
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: never on record done a record together? Right? Oh yeah,

721
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: that's right. Then my forgot about that. Yeah, we did.

722
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: We did. We did a song called She the One,

723
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: Me and Marshall did over over a Neptune beat. Oh,

724
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: She the One. But that's never seen the light of day.

725
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: I think it may have been on YouTube, but it's

726
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: never it's never officially. No. And we also got in

727
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: the studio together for the what was the Football? The

728
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: football movie with l Cold and Jamie and he give

729
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: give us under right, it was that movie because for

730
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: any given Sunday. Yeah, I need my plock for that too.

731
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah here write that down to I'm missing nothing to

732
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: lose it's only five soundtrack missing Foxy Brown Joint. I'm

733
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: missing what was that give Sunday? And I'm missing like two,

734
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: two or three more. I don't have my my chronic plaque,

735
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: not like you just from Yeah, I'm not gonna lie

736
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: clue DJ clue. I should have a DJ clue. I

737
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: got to DJ your shout off to DJ clue, and um,

738
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: I just don't have any more space on the wall

739
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: because big space. Mr Porter, Mr Porter, you know what

740
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna put my R Kelly plaque. I got

741
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: a R plaque. I'm so sorry, don't put it in

742
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: this ship up. And it's gonna put it an X

743
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: over it like look like off white. But it's gonna

744
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't want to throw the block away.

745
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean eight million. I don't know this guy, but

746
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to hang it up. I don't want

747
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: to be like because I mean, I noticed that people

748
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: come to the Creator like, oh, ship and then they oh,

749
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: look at that. I used to look back at Oh.

750
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: I had kind of do it that should I like,

751
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: But you know, I didn't know they were gonna put

752
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: black axe over there. So it's going they're gonna say

753
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: it's off white. I'm saying, no, it's off are even

754
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: don't collecting my cup and plugs in my place? Yeah?

755
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Damn we went, we

756
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: went crazy to be went all right? Cool? I got

757
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: notes here. Goddamn, I hold on, she's been a year

758
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: in jail for drinking. How the hell does that? What

759
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: kind of what was you drinking? Brother? What was I drinking? Yeah?

760
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: Because it's very specifically, it's not like he was drinking

761
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: straight director jail drink. Yeah, I was drinking, don't pass

762
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: go to tronka yah. Yeah, I remember you was a

763
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: super straight patron guy out the bottle type. Yeah, okay,

764
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: to look at what happened. Yeah, so I was drinking

765
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: patron um And what happened was um, I was, I was.

766
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: I was drinking and driving. I got I got pulled

767
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: over a late at night one night and my lawyer,

768
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: I remember my lawyer when I got that offense, pushing

769
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: the court date back because we're gonna try and beat it.

770
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: So um. They put me on this program called JAMS,

771
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: and that's basically where they assigned you a color and

772
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: if they if they if your color comes up, you

773
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: gotta check every day. You gotta call this number every day,

774
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: and if you call it and you hear your color,

775
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: you gotta go blow into a device That next morning,

776
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: and my color came. I went blue into divice to

777
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 1: the device, and I blew dirty because I was drinking

778
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: the night before. Okay, okay, damn that's that's that's something

779
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: that we kids need to know. So if you drink

780
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: the night before, I said, it is still in your

781
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: system in the morning, don't let nobody else tell you

782
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: different for sure, because you know, like I left somebody,

783
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: that's what it was. I wasn't like little drunk. I

784
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't lit up. No, I wouldn't lit up back before.

785
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't wasn't lit up the night before. But I

786
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: drink the night before, and somebody told me, yeah, man,

787
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is just stopped drinking it, you know,

788
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock or whatever. He said, My god, yeah, So

789
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm listening to this stupid nigga. So

790
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: so I go and I'll blow I'll blow dirty. So

791
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: that's an offense. And then before I can even go

792
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: to court to rectify anything, I get another one, another

793
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: d y. I get pulled over again. So I got

794
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: two in the air at the same time, and I

795
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: blew dirty, terrible, terrible. Oh and I got and I

796
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: got driving without driving with license to spend it offensive

797
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: running the current Well yeah, bench warns already. No, no, no, no, no,

798
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: it's just it when you get caught drinking and driving

799
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: that we don't even discuss because they're drinking and driving

800
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: is such a big deal. Driving license just just a

801
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: bigger deal. See you today, Like DMX, you did not

802
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: pull up today. You had a driver. He was very conservative,

803
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: very drinking. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Listen, everybody

804
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: go with DMX. The driver drives for about ten minutes

805
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: and then actually like more like oh, let me get

806
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: out the call, hold on before anything happened. But he

807
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: loves the drip. He's a speed with me. Let me

808
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: tell you something, brother, like this is my eighth year.

809
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm going eight years, so that makes a noise for that.

810
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want you to stop where you're

811
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: going with it. Just so you know, today this is

812
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: my third drink champ, so I'm only drinking water. I'm

813
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna drink I figured, I said, you know what, let

814
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: me joining them. Don't make me feel bad. I'm saying,

815
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm still getting spoken, but I could, I could do

816
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: I could do a drink. Chance. You know he's not drinking.

817
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: It's okay. I'm so vegetarian fasting, you know what I'm saying.

818
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: So yea yeah, because I'm still eating cheese. Yeah, but

819
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I'm like, you know,

820
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm from New York. I got look slimmer since I've

821
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: been trying to think taking me over. That's my nigger,

822
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: that's my nigging. So, um, what was you talking about?

823
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: What was doing? I was saying, I'm eight years sober now,

824
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: eight years sober now, and I'm still having it. I'm

825
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: speaking sobriety events, do charitable things, preaching on the positivity.

826
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh you smoke weed? Nothing nothing. If you don't do

827
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: anything back, then do you smoke weed? Just just drink? Okay?

828
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: And you think you think that that was like, uh,

829
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: that was a downfall for you drinking because of how

830
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: much you drink. Yeah, I think the amount that I

831
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: drink would be anybody's downfall. You know. Um, I just

832
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: don't think it's possible to be productive and not really

833
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: be coherent most of the day, you know, Like I

834
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: wasn't even really good for a phone call after ten

835
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: pm unless you like close friend of mine and we're

836
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: like talking crazy shit. We couldn't. I couldn't conduct business

837
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: after temp m you know what I mean, because I

838
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: was just I just used to be lit up, and

839
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: I mean it's just, you know, it started out fun.

840
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: Then it just turned into a problem, you know, And

841
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: I got I'm obsessive, compulsive by nature, you know me

842
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: and you talked about that the other day. But yeah,

843
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm obsessive, complosive. But whatever. What that means is whatever

844
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: you into, you into, Yeah, go all the way like

845
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: eat pussy eating ask too. It wasn't okay. So what

846
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: was your conversation with Joe after he uhm m this

847
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: uh Nick Canning My conversation with Fat Joe with Joe

848
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: button after button this eminem after he you mean when

849
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: he's when he uh when he talked about this album

850
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, he said that he said the trash

851
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah. I don't I don't remember

852
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: exactly what I said. What what what said? Um? I

853
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: just remember us having a long conversation where he expressed

854
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: how he felt about it, and I expressed how I

855
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: felt about it. I think I had just I just

856
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: went this podcast as well, right, yeah, I went, I went,

857
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: I did. Um, I had just did my rollout for

858
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: my for my album, my last album, Book of Ryan,

859
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: and I remember I went through that whole rollout, and

860
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: I remember just I kept having to like talk about Joe,

861
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: um in a negative I kept having to speak about him,

862
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: but his name kept coming up, but it was more

863
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: in a negative sort of light. You know, like people

864
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: were kind of like not pitting us against each other,

865
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: but the way that his dan was coming up. You know, Um,

866
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: I didn't like it because you feel like Joe could

867
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: have said a different Yeah. Yeah, yeah he could have.

868
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: He could have. Um, it was a zillion different ways

869
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: he could have handled it. But just in regards to me,

870
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, um, I think I'll remember telling him something

871
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: along the lines of, man, I don't I don't deserve that,

872
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like what I don't I

873
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: didn't sign up for that, you know what I mean?

874
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: Like it's what we said earlier, like I'm I'm just

875
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: about the wraps. I'm not about all of this, saying

876
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: like I'm not about you know, the gray area. You know,

877
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: it's one thing or the other thing with me, you

878
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you're my friend, you know,

879
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: And and that's how I am with my friends though,

880
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, like if if there's an issue, if I

881
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: have an issue with some of one of my friends

882
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: have issues with something, we bring it to the table.

883
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: We talked about it, we yell about it, whatever needs

884
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: to happen, and then we come to a solution, a resolution.

885
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: And that's what we did. We came to a resolution.

886
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: He told he apologized to me, He told me he

887
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: loved me, he didn't want me to feel like that.

888
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: I accepted his apology and that was to my job,

889
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: right And um, you think him and m were right

890
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: to partitiation or that was just his opinion. It's not

891
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: really a beef. I think it's definitely not a beef.

892
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: It's not a beef. I mean, m didn't like it,

893
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, like I can't. I'd be a fool to

894
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: say here and try to speak for Marshall, you know

895
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he feels how he feels about it.

896
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: You know, we've had conversations here and there about it.

897
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: You know, Joe feels how he feels. I think anything

898
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: can be rectified through conversation. If that's something that they

899
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: chose to do in the future, you know what I'm

900
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: saying right now, that's dope. I hope, I hope. I

901
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: hope they work it out. Um. I just I just

902
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I get with it's coming from

903
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: because it's coming from like the inside, you know what

904
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And because I think Marshall was that album

905
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: still we went like platinum and still went or whatever.

906
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: So like do you do you you ever think how

907
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: how weird that is? Like you can see a person

908
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: like how big Marshall is or how big jay Z

909
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: is and how big Dos is and they pay attention

910
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: to the little like yeah, like that's kind of like

911
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: how they got to where they are. Bro, you know

912
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like if you think about that's how

913
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: they got to where they are, and it's like it's inspiring. Man.

914
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: In I was just talking about this the other day.

915
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: I was saying, you could you just have Floyd on

916
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: the show, and um, one thing that I admire about

917
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: Floyd in the ring is that the way he makes adjustments,

918
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, like the champion in him comes out, Like

919
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: when he got caught with the Big Shot from Shane.

920
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: The champion in him came out, and that person right there,

921
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: you cannot judge that person, you know what I'm saying.

922
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: That person right there's the top, the tippity top of

923
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: the top tier. And that's what I think that we're

924
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: seeing Marshall doing. Now he's making his adjustments, you know,

925
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: like he's he's he's been flawless. He went flawless for

926
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: a lot of years straight, and now he's under scrutiny

927
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: and he needs to find a different way to do

928
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: certain things. And now he's making adjustments and they just

929
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: keep getting better and better and better. If you look

930
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: since Revival, ships just been better and better for better.

931
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: Now his last this last album that he just put

932
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: out music to everybody, to me, in my opinion, it's

933
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: the best one since Recovery. You know what I'm saying,

934
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: He's got music already that he's been recording, right, I'm

935
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: sure I don't mean you would know you produced produce.

936
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: I produced. I produced two songs on his last on

937
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: this album. I produced two songs on it. I'll produce

938
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: You're Gonna Learn and Darkness. So nothing that you've produced

939
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: that you know is coming out still not that I'm

940
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: aware of. But you've given production over. I've given it.

941
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: He got he's probably got some Yeah, he got some

942
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: beats of money he hasn't wrapped to. But um, I

943
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what he's been doing. I'm

944
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: talking to Marshall in a minute. It's been months months,

945
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I don't know what he's been doing.

946
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: But um, when he's quiet, when he's quiet, you never know.

947
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: You never know what he's gonna, you know what I mean,

948
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: Like he's doing something he ain't vacation And I'll tell

949
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: you tell you that now, Tory Lanes. You want Tory Lanes.

950
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: You have some backing for Yeah? On Twitter? Okay, y'all

951
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: you worked it out. Of course it wasn't. It wasn't

952
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: over the headline or nothing like that. Come on, I'm

953
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, it wasn't like if I could,

954
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: if I remember properly, he was. Somebody asked me on

955
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: Twitter if I felt like this is how they worded it.

956
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: They said, do you feel Tory Lanes one against join

957
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: the Lucas? And I tweeted back no, because I felt

958
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: like join the one. But I was about to. I

959
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: was about to tweet, but Tory came with it because

960
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Tory. And before I could do that,

961
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: he was on it. He was on and I didn't.

962
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: I didn't add his unge the whole America one. Yeah,

963
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: he was just he was just on. He was the

964
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: only one at that moment. I love that fire though.

965
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: I love that fire was it wasn't no, it wasn't

966
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: no offense taken like you really love battle rap like that.

967
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell

968
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: you the other day, I've been phoning off on battle rap,

969
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: like you know, it's like really takes a couple of

970
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: hours of your time, you really. But the other day, obviously, um,

971
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: I was probably one of the first person I know

972
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: Marshall picked it up to map hop is um what

973
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: is it called my my professional opinion or my expert opinion.

974
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: I've been big en up forever because if I can't

975
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: watch the battles, it's like watching first take sometimes, Like

976
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't watch the games, but I go and

977
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: listen for sick anyway, So I'm listening to map hopor whatever,

978
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: and then um, it goes off and this is a

979
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: battle that I just saw and let me know if

980
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: you saw this. But the dude, this is the first

981
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: like friendly battle I saw in a long time. And

982
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: I could tell these guys were friendly with each time.

983
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: But the dude battle and other dude he puts on

984
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: the Walmark outfit. Did you see this one? And smack?

985
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: Because one of the dudes worked in Walmart and the

986
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: dude got the dude got the drop that he worked

987
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: and Wald what Yo, this was hilarious. My god, you

988
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: gotta look at this stuff. He put the Walmart offre. Yeah,

989
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going on because I'm out

990
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: of the loop, right, So I'm I don't look, so

991
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's

992
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: going on. Okay, guys, I don't know what's going on.

993
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: So I'm looking and he's like, oh, you think I

994
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: don't know where you work at? So he turns around

995
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: and they put a hat on him and they put

996
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: a vest on them. But from the angle and watched it,

997
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: I can't tell. We're gonna investor ship. So he turns around,

998
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes some ship. You to do that

999
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: when we walk out of the store, you'd be checking

1000
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: out receiving this is the craziest ship. So, I mean

1001
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: it was like the first time because battle rap at

1002
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: first to me was was your friends, it was yo yo.

1003
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: But then somewhere along the line, you know what, let

1004
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: me bick a map off again with him. He on

1005
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: into snuffing to the game and everyone knows it down.

1006
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: Now this is a possibility. You can't get snuffed or

1007
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: you might be the one doing the snuffing. So it

1008
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: kind of and then now I'm started excellent. I seeing

1009
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: more and more fights. So even see a white guy

1010
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: actually used the N word and they snuffed in which

1011
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: I think he should have got snuffed again. I think

1012
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: the whole crowd should snuffed him. Um. But you know

1013
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's repetitive. It is so just

1014
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: for me to see two brothers just go on stage

1015
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: and I mean they tore it into each other. So

1016
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: you should google it's smack uh Google. We'll come back

1017
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: to it. But it was I could you not, Like

1018
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: tears came out of my eyes, like literally I had

1019
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: to call my man Will Millions. I was like, yo,

1020
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: who is this guy? He's like, oh, that should happened

1021
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: in Queens. I was like, damn, I didn't even know

1022
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: what happened, and I couldn't because you know what it was.

1023
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: It was on like an Explorer page, so you know

1024
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: how like you know how you like something will come

1025
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: up on on that somebody you're not even following, for

1026
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: somebody your affiliate following, and that ship popped up and

1027
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: how could you not? It was one of those those

1028
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: joints Royce. It was so good that I don't even

1029
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: want to be winded, like you know usually see it

1030
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: was good you want to watch, but he got his

1031
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: wonder course so good the first time. I didn't even

1032
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: need to I remember, like like if you don't even

1033
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: remember the words, I remember the basics of the conversation,

1034
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: but if you finally let me know. But a battle Rapper,

1035
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: didn't you have a league? Wasn't you a part of

1036
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: the league? Like? Okay? That was the only thing on

1037
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: BT correct now. It was on the Fuse network, on

1038
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: the Fuse Confused network. Basically, Basically what we did was

1039
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: we put some battle Rappers in the house. You ever

1040
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: seen the UFC reality show where they are where all

1041
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: the fighters live with each other, and they all came

1042
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: they see the UFC one I thought, I thought the

1043
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: Rappers one was the first one. So that's where the

1044
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: UFC thing was first. That's kind of like where the

1045
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: idea came from. Okay, so we put we put Battle

1046
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: Rappers all in the house and they all battled each other,

1047
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: battled their way this event to this big event. This

1048
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: is a you know, you remember, I'm terrible with years,

1049
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: man was I know I was sober. I know I

1050
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: was sober. I remember, I remember because I remember. If

1051
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't sober, I wouldn't remember. Um, I can't remember

1052
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: exactly what year was, but um, I'm pretty sure y'all

1053
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: can fact checking and just on the screen. But it

1054
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: was everything was leading to this big event which was

1055
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: loaded lux Verse Murder muk too, you know what I'm saying,

1056
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: which was the follow up to a super super classic,

1057
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: super super classic battle in battle Rap history. And I

1058
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: believe we both times. Yeah, we put it in. We

1059
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: put it in. Um, we put it on pay per

1060
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: view and it was oh, I'm sorry, button hollow as well.

1061
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: Do listen, I listen, Joe, You're a man. Do not

1062
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: get a step in that battle arena again. I was

1063
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: very embarrassed. People to Mike, damn you don't think he

1064
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: did well. He did that, you know, I can't, shouldn't

1065
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: he just shouldn't have put the mic down. You know

1066
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: what it is. He's a virgo virgo and we're very annoyed.

1067
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is our power is not

1068
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: showing re annoyed. Right, he showed he was annoyed that

1069
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: day and he lost from that moment. The thing is

1070
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: that that's the thing is like you ever noticed, he

1071
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: ever noticed when a battle rapper is battling, they'd be like,

1072
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: let me cook, let me cook, let me, let me,

1073
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: let me relieve it, let me work, let me work,

1074
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: let me work. That's said that distracted him. The crowd

1075
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: is distracted him. But that's the way of saying I'm

1076
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: not being distracted back. But now listen to that same

1077
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: person saying you chill, y'all. That's not the same confidence.

1078
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: If y'all, if y'all, don't shut it up about now,

1079
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: every tetop, Okay, y t toop did this thing. Man

1080
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: tetop did this thing. But you know so, um, I don't.

1081
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. And I heard you say this the

1082
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: other day, and I think that's it's funny. I think

1083
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: Joe is better at this profession that he is at rapping.

1084
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: He was a damn good rapper to lys top Ti lyrics,

1085
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: and you know he did all right at at the

1086
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: battle rapping thing. But in terms of no, no, no,

1087
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: no no, let's let's stop, let's stop, let's not be

1088
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: nice about that. Let's let's just be clear, let's just

1089
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: be clear. I'm sorry, he's my friend. Let's just agree

1090
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: on this in terms of rapping, terms of rapping, rapping, Yeah,

1091
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: that's like what I'm saying. Like, listen, I make great

1092
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: party wrappers, I make great regor, but you get me

1093
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: to be scoop and scrap, I'm not gonna be good.

1094
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I don't know how to do the

1095
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: kid and play like. I don't know how to do that.

1096
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: So now I can't. I can't, you know what. Let's

1097
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: just be clear. I can do I can wrap, but

1098
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: I can't dance. And I'll tell you something else. I'll

1099
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: tell you something. I don't really get a lot the

1100
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: with them. I got about four steps in me and

1101
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: that's it. Family, not gonna be happy, but but I

1102
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: got to my my, my, my two to mean steps

1103
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: to two steps. It's so mean. You ain't never gonna

1104
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: catch you on You ain't never gonna catch up. No.

1105
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: Flocker recently just said he he said he was a

1106
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: whack rapper. I disagree with him. I disagree to I

1107
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: disagree with him, but he said he got to the

1108
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: level Do you think that's that's possible nowadays where people

1109
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: could come into this game knowing that they don't that

1110
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't think in Rocker's case, I don't agree with them,

1111
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, dude, there's so many people that

1112
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: are coming in this game now and they say, well,

1113
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just be like a French Montana will just

1114
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: be like all They'll say, like a Jim Jones or

1115
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: something like that, as if French Montana or Jim Jones

1116
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: didn't bust. They asked were they're trying to say? It's

1117
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: people that you know, not spending fifteen million hours on lyrics.

1118
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: But do you think that as artists nowadays that does

1119
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: that that they've actually come into this game just for

1120
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: the money, and then that's that. I think it's just

1121
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: about it's about knowing. Goes back to the self defining

1122
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: thing that I'm talking about. It goes back to just

1123
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: knowing you and then playing to your strengths. You know,

1124
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: everybody is not a super technical lyrical miracle m C.

1125
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: You know, and Walker, Walker just he played to his strengths. Now,

1126
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: I heard songs where he was bussing, when he was

1127
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: straight up bussing, But it seems like he made he

1128
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: made his mind up like Okay, this is what I'm

1129
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna do, and I'm gonna pursue it relentlessly and nobody's

1130
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna stop me. And that's exactly what happened. Honest. See

1131
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: what he meant he said compared to his favorite rappers,

1132
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: he you know, comed him paying respect. That's just can't

1133
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: say Walker's whack. I ain't gonna he probably what he

1134
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: probably means by this ship. If I'm not gonna be

1135
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: the best at that, then I'm just gonna do this

1136
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: because he's He's great at what he did. But I

1137
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: don't necessarily, I don't necessarily believe that lyrics is the

1138
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: only thing that hardest. Were the best lyricists there were

1139
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: that the flow to me, to me, Biggie's flow. He

1140
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: had lyrics, but it was his flow that that made

1141
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: you gravitates us. It's a master, it's a master. It's

1142
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: a masterful way to do many things, many things with

1143
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: the rapping ship. You know what I'm saying, like, um,

1144
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: geezy Geezy to me is a lyricist. He just hides it.

1145
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: He hides it in his wag, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1146
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: It's just he has a way of reaching you. He

1147
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: has he has a way of getting directly to his

1148
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: points without using a whole lot of words. And he

1149
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 1: does it in a way where his inflictions he knows

1150
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: where to put them at in terms of the core

1151
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: progression and ship like that is genius. The way he

1152
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: does it, it's just not right in your face, the

1153
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: technical part of it. It's just not right in your face,

1154
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He has the ability, you know,

1155
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: it's his ability. His ability is through the roof. It's

1156
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: through the roof. Is just done a different ways. The

1157
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: cat I haven't. I haven't, but um it's kind of

1158
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: Is she the one who made the cow song? The

1159
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: cow song? Let's google that. Google that. I'm not sure

1160
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: the cow song? Right that? That ship chips going right

1161
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: now you ask the question? Come on to a much

1162
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: more with the chair, get another chap? Have we gotta

1163
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: set up so what's going on with mother? Was holding on?

1164
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: No drinking and you never smoked the drink. Yeah, you

1165
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: used to be back in the days, and it was

1166
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: one of the perfect pills too. Listen, man, I'm not

1167
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 1: gonna lie. That was the only the only Like damn,

1168
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: I am I going to my exec days right now

1169
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: that I know that's bad for you, But I just

1170
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: like that's fucked up, like like I actually was saving marriages.

1171
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: And one point lies, I ain't never heard that up

1172
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: said after the war war war just in my mind, man,

1173
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: see that. I want to know what war seen my

1174
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: mind as a war. Man. Listen, listen, because probably helped couples. Yeah,

1175
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: your ecstacy, No listen, listen, maybe you can. But yeah,

1176
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: one person, it's a problem. It's gonna be a c

1177
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: they gonna be. But this is what I heard. Ecstacy

1178
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: was made for people having mad up is the original

1179
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: reason why it was made. Yeah, listen man, I'm just

1180
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: being honest man. Yeah, yeah, because because you know, like

1181
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: if you ever seen your boy ecstasy, like he'll just

1182
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: be like man, this person because the same ship. But yeah,

1183
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie, like the detwelve like like that to

1184
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: all I felt like y'all did a lot of drugs,

1185
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: and I just felt like I should have been there

1186
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: with y'all at that time. At that time, No, man,

1187
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how much, how much how much asked

1188
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: what y'all getting and it was college it was it

1189
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: was that was like college ship. He was getting white

1190
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: girl one wi like, yeah, I was getting the bitches right.

1191
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: It's just too much, too much what I mean, I

1192
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: don't know. It was like it was just we was

1193
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: kids kids, So I just felt like wild ass parties

1194
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: every so um after um Proof what what what? Because

1195
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: everyone sit back and uh, And I believe M said

1196
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: it on the record he said, um, truth is and

1197
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: Proof died, so did the group. But a lot of

1198
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,959
Speaker 1: people say it's even deeper than that, like it's saying

1199
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: a part of the Detroit die when Proof died? What

1200
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 1: do you what? Do you guys feel like that? Yeah,

1201
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: But I also feel like I think a lot of

1202
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: that when that happened, you gotta think that the again,

1203
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: in star power of who M was, who M is,

1204
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: that overshadowed everybody grief too, And like a lot of

1205
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: people didn't get to you know, it was like it

1206
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: became about him and how he was grieving and yeah, yeah,

1207
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: so you know you kind of missed A lot of

1208
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: people might have missed it. A proof was so important,

1209
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, it just got overshadowed by that, which is

1210
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: something that happened when somebody that big, but it was

1211
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: for me. I felt like that. It was like everybody

1212
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: was going through their own thing individually, but you couldn't

1213
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: really go through it without getting Oh man, I know

1214
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: him funked up. I know, you know, like that just

1215
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: made me not It just made me get away from it.

1216
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: But I was coming once the once that happened, I

1217
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: was done. I was done. No, just with the group ship.

1218
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I tried, but I couldn't really keep going on,

1219
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: you know the end of it. Basically, Yeah, I mean business.

1220
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: You gotta think business people handle business differently. And I

1221
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: was affected a lot in it because every time I

1222
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: would do something, produce for somebody else, or do something,

1223
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: it was going back to recouping the deal that we

1224
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: was in as a group. And so when I tried

1225
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: to go my own way and do that, it was

1226
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: like they didn't understand why I wanted to do it.

1227
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: But that's what happened. And you and you improve y'all.

1228
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you got arrested after Like, yeah, I pulled up.

1229
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: Damn your Mike is there? You got you gotta forgot

1230
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: pe infection on the ship. I forgot first. I ain't

1231
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: even trust ourselves, like let's do it's a guy. But

1232
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: so then, how did you work that situation up? We're

1233
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: been jailed together and get out of here. He pulled

1234
01:06:55,000 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: out on each other, the dog with the jacket. I

1235
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: was in the sale. I was in the sale and

1236
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: he was in the sale. Next ye mean we're talking

1237
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: to each other through the wall and this is jail

1238
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: for each other. The wall um Proof was Proof was

1239
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: like he's such a dynamic individual. Man. He was having

1240
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: like the phone was ringing off the hook, different lawyers calling.

1241
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: What I was saying, This nigger had all kind of

1242
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,919
Speaker 1: food being brought in and you know what I'm saying.

1243
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: Like it was like it was like crazy. He was

1244
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: actually the reason why I got out so fast because

1245
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: it was like he was he was bringing too much

1246
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: attention to the like the pre sinking ship. Did you

1247
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: notice he was like bringing too much attention to the precinct.

1248
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: They just let us out. They were just like, man,

1249
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: we let y'all out. I think I heard you know

1250
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it was like, but we we

1251
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: were able to talk and just really put things in perspective,

1252
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: and that was like early on I think I learned

1253
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: the words of communication just by going through that with him,

1254
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: because like how deep we were into the ship, you

1255
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And then how we were able

1256
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: to just nip it in the bud just that fast,

1257
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: just talking, you know, because right before we got arrested,

1258
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, it got tense. It could have went one

1259
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: of one of two ways, you know what I'm saying.

1260
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: So for us to be able to nip that in

1261
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: the bud that fast, and then for me and this

1262
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: man to get as close as we ended up being

1263
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: after it just it's a testament to you have to

1264
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: find resolution, and then you have to also realize how

1265
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: powerful we are as a collective. The things that me

1266
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: and this man can do in the studio together, it's

1267
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: way more valuable than any type of energy we can

1268
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: cross being negative toward each other, you know what I mean? Now,

1269
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: what's the difference? Um uh? Because Drey was up front

1270
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: about it and Puff was up front about it, what's

1271
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: the difference between like you writing around for Diddy or

1272
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: you writing around for dre uh did he did? He

1273
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: is way more picky, well, at least at that moment,

1274
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: Jack obviously, because I'm here, I'm hearing, I'm hearing the dres.

1275
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: Is he real picky now? Because back then and I

1276
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: when I was working with him on that Chronic on

1277
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: the Chronic album, he wasn't. Really, he wasn't as picky

1278
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: as Puff. I've never been in the studio with somebody

1279
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: as picky as Puff. Playboy put that thing on that

1280
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: Playboy just made me write first over and over and

1281
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 1: over and over. And I just walked away from that

1282
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: situation learning so much because it was up until I

1283
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: worked with Puff that I never rewrote my own raps.

1284
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: So this nigga made me rewrite the same rap so

1285
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: many times. I'm thinking to myself, like, wait a minute,

1286
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: am I not putting the same effort into my own ship?

1287
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: So what pup project are we talking about? People like yeah,

1288
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: I wrote tell Me with Christina Agiley, so so, and

1289
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: then how was and you wrote Kanye Ship. I was trying,

1290
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: I was trying to look at that crazous. I felt

1291
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: my eyes and started like get funny and he looked

1292
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: that day, I gotta let it go. But um, but

1293
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. I think. One of my favorite rappers,

1294
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: Easy Easy on the Record, said, I didn't realize this.

1295
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: Twenty years later he said, I s Q right, surrise

1296
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: that I say, and I was like, oh ship. Three

1297
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,560
Speaker 1: years later I was like, what the fun he was?

1298
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: I listening to the businessman talking, Yeah, I've been businessman.

1299
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: What what makes what makes them different from Drake? From Drake? Yeah, Um,

1300
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's much of a difference.

1301
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean Drake to me, it'd be hard for me

1302
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: to like put a finger on exactly what Drake is

1303
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: in that conversation because I don't know. He's an R

1304
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: and B singer. Don't R and B singers get away

1305
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: with that. But you're trying to say that, I don't

1306
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: want somebody else write about how much? How much is

1307
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: other people? Right? Because when I've seen Drake interviews, he

1308
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: pretty much he said he write pretty much everything. And

1309
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: he took some ideas we need to go fund me

1310
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: for good, like we need to go fund me not

1311
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: fun like money, like he need to have some fun

1312
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: like that. I think you need to go to a

1313
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: dream park or something like great adventures like that. That

1314
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: it was a little sad, bro I apologize when you

1315
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: look at it from his perspective, the way he was

1316
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: saying that, I was like, damn, that's his perspective is perspective.

1317
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from in that sense. I

1318
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: just you know what the thing is this if you've

1319
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: never been a casual to a war like sometimes you like,

1320
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: I've been a casualt to you a war, I've been

1321
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: in a place where a person used me and then

1322
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: they they and I understand it. You know what I'm saying.

1323
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: I understand. I understood where I had to be at

1324
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: that moment. It's not in this level. It's not in

1325
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: this level like this level like when I seen him

1326
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: and it was what m if you're reading this, it's

1327
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: too late. And he was saying that everyone's posting a

1328
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: plaques and everyone's collateral damage. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So

1329
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: I would hope that they reach out to him, because

1330
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, both of them at this point they're cool. Yeah,

1331
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 1: but how would they do that? Was he being with

1332
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: them too? That? No? No, what it was. What it

1333
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: was was Woma has it woman? Has it. This is

1334
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: all what do they call it? Um here saying what

1335
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: do they say? Um? So the speculation though, um all

1336
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: allegedly all allegedly allegedly Meek DJ Drama cool people both

1337
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia meet, goes to Atlanta see his this record

1338
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later. Is that same record he

1339
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: heard with this other dude spitting on the radio and

1340
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 1: that happens to be Drake that spit in these lines,

1341
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: Meek has that in his mind. Whatever happens, I think

1342
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: Drake is supposed to come out to the concert with him,

1343
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't come out me. That's when me does the

1344
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: thing on Twitter or whatever. This is all allegedly, right

1345
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: Boom Quittin Millers caught up in this now they all

1346
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: did because because you know, no one else later on

1347
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: we found out of this DJ Drama people say that.

1348
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: People say allegedly that because Drake was messing with one

1349
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: of the DJ Drama's girls, that he's no longer with maw.

1350
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: So this is why D Drama owes us this story.

1351
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: He has to come on here. Um. But so during

1352
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: the whole process, Quentin Miller's court in the process. At first,

1353
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: it looks like yo dude, you get you get what

1354
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: you get, right, you get what you get. You use

1355
01:13:52,760 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: on that side, that side, then the side squatss to be. Yeah,

1356
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: I don't know whose ring is that is, but you

1357
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: gotta grow up. You gotta get out. You gotta get out.

1358
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: The toys arrest man, that's the Dominican barber. That's that's

1359
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: to us close man, toys arrest isn't even over no more.

1360
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean quitting, Um, I listened. I've been

1361
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: the war, like for twenty years. I'm doing different types

1362
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: of war. I never feel sorry for a person they

1363
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: get caught in collaidal with damage or this is my

1364
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: first time when I've seen him like he didn't even

1365
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: have nobody feeling for him, Like it was a selfie

1366
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like you know what

1367
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I don't mean it like like you know,

1368
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: but he was like he just I think he looked

1369
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: depressed though, and it was snow, but I feel like

1370
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: he has shorts on. Doesn't worried me the most, really depressed,

1371
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: like he didn't look happy. It was not a happy

1372
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: thing from Yeah, I kind of agree with you, and

1373
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: that's like that's the kind of ship to me today.

1374
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: That worry me, like about a lot of arts. But

1375
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: that's what see you know. But that's the difference between

1376
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: you working with Dr Dre and a puff where pretty

1377
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: much upfront about it, and then you're working with a

1378
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: person because a lot of people that's that's how a

1379
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: lot of people probably fail. It's like, yo, if I'm

1380
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: gonna let you give me a couple of bars, that's

1381
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: between us. So this was like the first ghostwriter that

1382
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: was that was labeled a ghost because most the definition

1383
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: the ghost is you don't really know what the funk

1384
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: it is, you know what I'm saying. So this is

1385
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: the first ghost writer that we've we found out and

1386
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: it's for a big artist because I never knew. I

1387
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: never knew any ghost writers. I never Yeah, but who

1388
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: didn't like for I knew he wrote for let's not

1389
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 1: be clear, let's not let's not act like we didn't

1390
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: see produces ghost produced as well. Yeah, coming so many

1391
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: times that I was like, you know, got an L. S.

1392
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: B or got a Kirk Gotti bet and track masters

1393
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: to me on my on my ships never came to

1394
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: the student session. I don't know what they deal becausists

1395
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: of I don't know how that worked, but I know

1396
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: that you know what I'm saying. And to me, that

1397
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: was ghost producing. I think the production thing is a

1398
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: little bit more blurry though, because the producer be like, no,

1399
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna workload and then I'm gonna I'm gonna pick

1400
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: out things and to me, I got to disagree with you.

1401
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: To me, it's a little bit more fouldent because at

1402
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: least it's that artist you know saying it, but a

1403
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: producer is not even getting the credit. Well, I mean

1404
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: that's the thing, Like if you always make sure the

1405
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: person get the credit, the problem is that person is

1406
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: getting the credit, they probably have a problem with it.

1407
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: Later you can have that agreement and then they come

1408
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: back and be like it's like but if you're doing

1409
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: that and you're going out of your way. Back then,

1410
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: credit was everything, right, that's all you want. Now today

1411
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: you don't know who the funk did what unless you

1412
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: got women once a more those there's a lot of

1413
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: that to go on with those two. Like I mean

1414
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: not saying they're faking the tax, but they have whole

1415
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: units of people. It's not like just one person, Like

1416
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: I know, I know a lot of the dudes that

1417
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: do it, like they make a million beat today, but

1418
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: like sometimes they still work or they collabor a lot

1419
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 1: with a lot of other you know, to producers today,

1420
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: it's never just one thing. To me, it's like there'll

1421
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: be a lot of people in the room. Sometimes you know,

1422
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: it's bad. It's bad when the person the beats and

1423
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: all the producer who's quote unquote producing all, he's doing

1424
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: his drops. Sometimes production is being a conductor. Yep. And

1425
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: that's what people don't understand. That's actually the original producer.

1426
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: It is the conducer of a band. A lot of

1427
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: people didn't say this band of sound and I am

1428
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: the producer a lot of producers. There's Whoopoff made magic

1429
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: with a lot of producers. Is a producer magic producer.

1430
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: It was with earth Gotti, may Magic with them as

1431
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: soon as earth Gotti, as soon as Drey, as soon

1432
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: as Paul left them. I'm saying reducing those are the

1433
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: saying it's a deal because under that when they were

1434
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: doing it, everybody was fine with the situation. But when

1435
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: those records take off, then they're like, he's not the producer.

1436
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: That's that's right, right, that's actually that's that's when it's corny. Yeah,

1437
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: what what's what's easier for This question goes to both

1438
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: for y'all, because there's there's this, there's there's beatmakers, and

1439
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: then there's producers. Like I always credit for Rall but

1440
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: being my first production I had, I had beats before,

1441
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: but for Wrell came to me and was like, just

1442
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: give me the rhymes. That was and I had the

1443
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: rhymes and he did every fucking thing. Whoever whisper with blacks.

1444
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: But what's the difference to y'all, what is easier for

1445
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: you to work with a person who's producing the beat?

1446
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: Are just doing a beat or a person who's actually

1447
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: producing the record? It's dead for the hook there for

1448
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: the and now as a producer, yeah, I mean I can.

1449
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 1: I consider myself a producer, so I could do both, like,

1450
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 1: but it's just it just has to be a producer

1451
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: that I trust. So if I'm working with him, I'll

1452
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: just give I can just give him the raps. I'm

1453
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: good with that promote. I can just give him the wraps,

1454
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, um if it's if it's um. The difference

1455
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 1: to me is a beat maker just makes beats. That's it.

1456
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: Beat maker makes beats and and they're good too. I'm

1457
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: not trying to beat Let me let me just clarify that,

1458
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sound dismissive at all, Like beat

1459
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 1: makers are dope. I love beat makers. Beat makers. They

1460
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: can send beats all day and we can take them.

1461
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: It's a different part of the process. Yes, it's just

1462
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: a different part of the process. A producer seats to

1463
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: all the way through, so somebody like him or somebody

1464
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: like me can come into the room and we may

1465
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: take something away from it that may make it what

1466
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: it needs to be. It's just knowing how to get

1467
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 1: it there. That's it. Everybody start out and when you start,

1468
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: when you go in the studio, you're gonna start off

1469
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 1: just making beats. It's gonna be one thing that you're

1470
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 1: gonna gravitate towards and anything you start producing that idea

1471
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: more than something else. You spend more time on that

1472
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: one thing. Right, So I think everybody can do butth

1473
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: But when you say a beat maker, that's people that

1474
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: I think about when I go to something the beat

1475
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: to beat, uh, like showcases and stuff like that. That's

1476
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 1: what they do. They come into wow you in that

1477
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: first two You know what I'm saying, and that's it.

1478
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: They don't even think about the music and how a

1479
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: person gotta wrap over it. You don't know what party

1480
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna wrap over none of that, Like I'll get it.

1481
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: I used to give him a beat and we used

1482
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: to Now we won't probably have those arguments be could

1483
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: I give him the beating in here give back? And

1484
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: it's like, man, why you wrap over that part? Yeah?

1485
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know I was getting on the nerves

1486
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: when I was doing that. I realized that until he

1487
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: started happening to produce for Marshall and I get him

1488
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: a beating. He took it and flipped it all around

1489
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: and made it and I heard it like whoa, But

1490
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: so now I know what are he's talking about. If

1491
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: you start off with just some people start off they

1492
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: just making peace. But until they learned, until somebody turned

1493
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: out enough music from him, was like, let's say they

1494
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: get your beating, you don't rep on and it's like, damn, man,

1495
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: why ain't it landing Because you're not producing it for somebody,

1496
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: You're not leaving space for him. You're just trying to

1497
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: show off. Like I love the idea, but you know,

1498
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: I might take the idea and turn it into whatever.

1499
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, you might break it down and give it

1500
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: to a person and arrange it the right way. You

1501
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: might change something slight as and sneering something. Those things matter,

1502
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: The little things matter. So just depending on the person

1503
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 1: and who you're getting from. There's a lot of beat makers,

1504
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: but producers, it ain't a lot of that going on.

1505
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: It ain't a lot of that going on. You could tell. Yeah,

1506
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: it feels that way too, because a lot of the

1507
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: records wouldn't sign the same producers help with the artist

1508
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: development too. I think that's a that's another element that's missing,

1509
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: the whole artist development. That's that's what I'm drying back

1510
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: to the game. Should we need to work together? Yeah,

1511
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: I want to. I wanna um. I want to help

1512
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: round artists. That's all we're trying to do. Yeah, like

1513
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like because I mean, sorry

1514
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: like to say this and like, you know, sorry to

1515
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: bring this up, but you know, everyone rest in piece

1516
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: to pop smoke. You know what I'm saying. Let's have

1517
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: a moment of silence. If your guys are back there,

1518
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: let's don't let's don't move for at least eight seconds.

1519
01:22:52,360 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: For Kobe, you know, I mean recipes Kobe of speech

1520
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: prop smoke, But it was something that hit me about

1521
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: pop Smoke was I've been going to those Hollywood hills

1522
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: like where that should happened for twenty years. We only

1523
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: rent those places for parties. We do not rent those

1524
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: places to stay to live there, to live there. So

1525
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, that's why young homies, you

1526
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: should reach out to your ogs, you know what I'm saying,

1527
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: Like he could have hit a person like Buster, and

1528
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: Buster would have told him a meeting like yo, you listen, man,

1529
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 1: that's that's cool to kill there. But you know, it

1530
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have to be meat, didn't necessarily have to

1531
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: be you know, but bust the rhymes a fact, Joe, Like,

1532
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: there's people that could tell you I'm saying, especially being

1533
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: from New York, Like, that's why you know, it's important

1534
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 1: you guys with a t grizzy situation because he should

1535
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: reach out for game for you like and especially because

1536
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't you know, our time we really

1537
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: didn't have drama like that. But the fact that's got

1538
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: to remember Biggie Smalls got killed from he was going

1539
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,799
Speaker 1: out there, so we was taking precautions like I remember

1540
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 1: renting those mansions or renting those houses rather and not

1541
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: even staying there. Like we would literally rent there, have

1542
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: a taste makers meeting or whatever, have something, and then

1543
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: as soon as we would all break out, you know

1544
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I seen that now to

1545
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: say that that was the only thing that happened to Pops,

1546
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: because I don't want to you know what I mean. Um,

1547
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: but it was just it's just simple game like that

1548
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: that we can help our young brothers with, you know

1549
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And um, I want to. I want

1550
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: to help do that. I want to help people transition

1551
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: from being just a rapper to being a personality, to

1552
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: being a podcaster to being h radio or someone on

1553
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: radio or something like that, because you know what, rap

1554
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: is a vehicle and the vehicle is not something you

1555
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: should live in. Vehicle is something to get you from

1556
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: one place to another. For that, I felt smart just now,

1557
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm not drinking. The journey. It's a journey. The success

1558
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: is a journey. I've been telling my youngest this. This

1559
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: is the success is a journey. In the art itself

1560
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: is a destination. It's a place that you need to

1561
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: get to get to that place and just express yourself

1562
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: and then through that all things are possible. You could

1563
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: do anything off of that platform. And you know what

1564
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: I noticed very starry to cut um change it up

1565
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, I notice the older we

1566
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: get and we're still successful, the easier it is for

1567
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: the youngest to listen to it. I feel like, the

1568
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: older we get and if we don't have that success,

1569
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: that we don't have certain that's easy because I used

1570
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: to be like that when I was younger, Like who

1571
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: is that? Like you want to tell me what did

1572
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: he go platinum for? Like you know what I'm saying

1573
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: that you'd be saying, like dumb ship like that then.

1574
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why I'm gonna be honest with you.

1575
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I don't reach out to some

1576
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: of these young generation dudes, like because I figured myself

1577
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: like when I first, um, I say this, I've said

1578
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: this before when I first met Walker Flocca and when

1579
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: I first met me, I didn't like them. But I

1580
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: realized I didn't like them because they reminded me of me,

1581
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: and I hate see twenty four year old met eight.

1582
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what them like? You know what I'm saying,

1583
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: I was like, that's wild, Like, do you think do

1584
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: you think though that today that that is that we

1585
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: totally acted different though we treated like I was excited

1586
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah difference. It's like they're

1587
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: only excited to me. You think they're just excited to

1588
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 1: meet the people that I mean kind of kind of

1589
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it kind of it kind of

1590
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: um damn. It kind of existed the fact that you know,

1591
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: we all old niggas godless of we want to you know,

1592
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: we're looking good, we're looking good, and so many other

1593
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: people like Kanye is actually older than me, but Kanye

1594
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: came out later than me, came out in that type

1595
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: of generation. So they look at Kanye like he's twenty

1596
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: years younger than me, and they look at me like

1597
01:26:54,920 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm nine hundred because I came out seven herb and seven.

1598
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: So they're like, what, you know, what I think they

1599
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: need to understand they should try to understand is that

1600
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: we don't have to care. That's where we could we

1601
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: could take it. We could take our money and just

1602
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: go chill on the boat somewhere and be like we

1603
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: got y'all, stay in the trenches. You know what I mean,

1604
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's a young man's game. I

1605
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: think I think, you know, but I don't even say

1606
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: because of that, I'm I'm talking about the way that

1607
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: young people look at evolving. It's not a young man

1608
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 1: no no, but for them, the currency that matters is

1609
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:39,839
Speaker 1: like s and follows. Like if this old lady is popping,

1610
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: she's the ship right now. So it's not a young

1611
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: man or young lady's game anymore. She's popping, So I

1612
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: want to take a photo with her, So that's what matters. Like, Yeah,

1613
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: that's what matters. That's what that's interesting though. Yeah, that's

1614
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: like that, that's what That's what we're having a hard

1615
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: time wrapping our heads around. But like all is the

1616
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: biggest R and B singer out right now, comedian, Yeah,

1617
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: this is real ship. Every fucking record he dropped I

1618
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: funk with Man, don't black Man, Don't cheat, um uh

1619
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: my ole bit, and then he got this other ship.

1620
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: I ain't even on this ship, but I look nasty.

1621
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fun people are making nasty videos

1622
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: and they got wild looking the nigga, looking at the nigga, nasty.

1623
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 1: Holy ship people. People, people are open to be entertained

1624
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: in any anyways. Anyway, little Walls the biggest that Nigga

1625
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: is like the new usher that little ball the new

1626
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: usher man. But but real quick, but back to everything

1627
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about. And this is my opinion. I think

1628
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: that what you're doing and it's it's about us being

1629
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: comfortable in our skins and doing what we do and

1630
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: and artfully doing it and not thinking about what they're

1631
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: thinking about, which is the likes and the follows is

1632
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: what's where we're gonna We're gonna follow that lead. We

1633
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: need to be the O g s that we were

1634
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be. That conversation, it's like, don't numbers and

1635
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: all that kind of should it just never mattered. It

1636
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: can't matter. It shouldn't matter. It shouldn't matter, man, don't matter.

1637
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: That's all they think about that. I mean, we gotta

1638
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: pay bills, if we gotta pay attention to all that ship.

1639
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: We gotta understand that it just happens. Though. Yeah, I

1640
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: got like, you know, friends, you know people that I do.

1641
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: You know I do things well, you know, and they'll

1642
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: still be like, can you follow me on the grams?

1643
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 1: Like you just asked me for Yeah, you already following

1644
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: like me, this is the fun up world we're living in.

1645
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: You know, like this is it's currency. It literally is

1646
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: like when you think about it in that way, that's

1647
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: the currency. Listen, that's what they But we can't see

1648
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: it that way of coming from where we come from

1649
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: because you know why we was talking to move away

1650
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: from the cameras we were talking, not like if we

1651
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 1: really know people from our era, like the first five

1652
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 1: minutes of them being on camera it's uncomfortable, but they

1653
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: technically be looking like this like anybody that's really from

1654
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: like the nineties, that's really they're like the first five

1655
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 1: seconds of them walking into something st pay attention, then

1656
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: looking at their head down because everything that they were

1657
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: towards said this is the you know, we're legal now,

1658
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: so that that it only takes five minutes, So that

1659
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: six minutes you're like, yo, motherfucker, you gotta get in here,

1660
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 1: you got do your job. But that first five minutes,

1661
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: that's that's why I know Meek is a real nigga's

1662
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: because if you look at Meek's interviews, like his first

1663
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 1: people like this, it's because he comes from that that

1664
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: like to stay right from the ship as opposed to this.

1665
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's people that do things for the

1666
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: people are asking me for a favor. People will ask

1667
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: me to do this or ask me can they come

1668
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: over here? And I'll do it and I'll take a

1669
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: picture with them, and then they'll say, well, can you

1670
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 1: follow me on the girl phone? And I'm like, damn,

1671
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: my dude, like I followed you in real life. In

1672
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: real life, you just call gone. We had drinks in

1673
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: my kitchen. When you have that, that's all that always

1674
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: bothered me. It's like, you don't like this, you don't

1675
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: do this. You don't do this, like you got my

1676
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: phone number, just her favorite one. You don't even follow

1677
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: me on the ground like like like you deliberately not

1678
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 1: like I over that my phone is that I'm not

1679
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: following listening. You know, I just can't get around to it.

1680
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: You don't that you're not even gonna see the message.

1681
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna see you. One of my holies, one

1682
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: of my tour of my homies, is arguing one day

1683
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: about me on my ground, about me. It's like, you know,

1684
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: he said, you know the homies. See you said, now,

1685
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: I don't think the Homiesee, you got so much followers.

1686
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: He said, you know, he got to see my name though,

1687
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: said listen, man, homies, you know, and I did see.

1688
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: It's like your comments. These things had a twelve day

1689
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: comments like you know, I'm looking like damn nigga. Now

1690
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm not answering, you know, because I wanted to. I

1691
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: wanted to do the little hard and like you know,

1692
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,560
Speaker 1: high watching like you know when they're talking, like I

1693
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,560
Speaker 1: listened to it. I watched it. I said, you know what,

1694
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 1: other niggas just fight it out. I'll tell you. I'll

1695
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: tell you another thing I learned. I learned the hard

1696
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: way to following certain women on the Graham's cheating. Oh yeah, yeah,

1697
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: and like if you realized that, yeah, I didn't know that.

1698
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Wait a minute too, okay following brother, Okay, No,

1699
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: I knew that when you found it. Don't like a

1700
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 1: picture like like divorce, you got a pretty talking you

1701
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: you like it? This man copy minds with you here,

1702
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: like I didn't know that's like the new form of

1703
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: kid like. I didn't know that. First of all, I

1704
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 1: didn't know how the d M. I didn't I didn't

1705
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: and didn't know how to DM. No, I didn't know

1706
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 1: a DM. I didn't even know it was a whole. No,

1707
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: the that's a hold on the planet knows another DM

1708
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: in the DM what g and then primary, oh yeah

1709
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: got multiple MN ship. That ship I don't even get

1710
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 1: because well I found out every now and then because

1711
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 1: it'll be an artist that would hit me, or be

1712
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: a football player that would be like yo. And so

1713
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: every now and then I had to learn how to

1714
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: do that because someone wanted to see me in the

1715
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: club and it'll be like a real like like yo,

1716
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like word, and I'm like, how about to

1717
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: do this? And I'd like to do One thing you

1718
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: don't want to do is actually white how do you

1719
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: work to d M s Because it's like it's like

1720
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 1: figure it out, Like I was like, this is in

1721
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: case of some accident. I don't want to do. You know,

1722
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't know like it listen, ain't acting on it

1723
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: when you know everything and then you want to look

1724
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: and say alright, cool, this it on me. I still

1725
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: got it. It was. It makes it nor that it's not.

1726
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: But social media, like I always imagine Tupac with a

1727
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: Twitter man like man one of the East Coast, West Coast,

1728
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: because I think he wouldn't hear. I think he would

1729
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: have hated Instagram. I think Pun would have destroyed Instagram.

1730
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: He would have comedic. I think he was I think

1731
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: he would have been the main killer. I think Biggie

1732
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: Smalls would have been the thriller king TikTok, yeah something.

1733
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Biggie was one of the most trendiest, funniest people ever hilarious.

1734
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: Pun Pun was big was like no hold on to

1735
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 1: be back. Big was was was fun because he was

1736
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: the first one, Like he was the first one I've

1737
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: ever seen it. So I felt like Pun took all

1738
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: the Biggie ship and took it and perfected it. Like

1739
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: Pun would really have water gun fights, but I'm talking

1740
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: about zero zero below in the morning, like like, like,

1741
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: listen to me, this is one of the fucking worst

1742
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 1: ship I've ever seen. They was running traders with these bitches.

1743
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: We want to find that. Hey man, it's running trisy

1744
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: business is on. This is on thirty second or twenty

1745
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 1: third Street like by Kelsea Dina And I don't know

1746
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: why they wanted to do this, but this is how

1747
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: it was in the nineties. So Pun stances two boys

1748
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: to fill up the super Squirter. But it's zero below

1749
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: outside Bro, this was the the Sprint of Vans. Before

1750
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: they was to Sprint of Vans. He was calling the

1751
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: fantastic right. So they jump off with the two girls

1752
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 1: and punting. Since this guys the load of the Supersquirter.

1753
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 1: But for some reason, I go off to smoke a cigarette.

1754
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: I smoked cigarettes there, and I see them loading up

1755
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: the supersquirter. The problem was they were loading up the

1756
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: super Squirriter with the snow slush. M hmm, foul. You know.

1757
01:35:54,640 --> 01:36:00,080
Speaker 1: I imagine there's some yellow snow. I can't visually see it,

1758
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 1: but so I looked, and this is when I knew

1759
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: I was officially a foul nigger because I was smoking

1760
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 1: a cigarette and I seen the girls coming out. I

1761
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 1: could have fully warned these bitches, like go the other way,

1762
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 1: but I wanted and everything. My mama heard. My mama

1763
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 1: telling me, boy, tell them, girls are going and I

1764
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 1: was like, Mama, let me just see this. And I

1765
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: stood there. I looked, and they didn't even talk to

1766
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 1: each other putting them. They just looked at each other

1767
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: and then chicks came out and they squirted up. And

1768
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it was so cold that her ship

1769
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: got icicles like her damn, And I was like, oh,

1770
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 1: and then she following around him. I got the ship

1771
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: on tape. It's terrible, Like it's terrible documentary. So you

1772
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: you forgot to mention that she were videotaping. Yes, I

1773
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 1: totally got that. More got told you I saw that

1774
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: was part of the whole process. I was mama and

1775
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 1: video table. I wasn't proud of it, but that's the

1776
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:10,560
Speaker 1: ship that we used to do in the nineties. Like

1777
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: the nineties was just a totally different era. No one

1778
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: was telling y'all, this was none of this. Do you

1779
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: think a person like Sakashi sixth line would exist in

1780
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: this game? Then? I don't know if they would have

1781
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: been able to know, but I was around. But you

1782
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna be honest, and I think me

1783
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 1: and Finn has admitted to this a couple of times,

1784
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: not once. I think it's awful, not him per se,

1785
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 1: not him per se. But like I said earlier, like

1786
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: I didn't really reach out to a lot of the

1787
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: young dudes. I really just didn't because I for a

1788
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 1: long time the older people in the hip hop at first,

1789
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: they really didn't accept me. They didn't embrace us. Like

1790
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: that because the older you know, the Mellie Miles, the

1791
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Grand Master Flashes at first, and now that I'm not

1792
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: in their position, but now that I'm older, I see

1793
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: like like like I like Gazella Gazella the other day. Um,

1794
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, we want them to get on. But you know,

1795
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: it's not like I gave him a trial period, but

1796
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure they was gonna be like

1797
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: and once they was there, like and I felt like,

1798
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: I feel like Mellie Mele grandmus to Flash cool heard.

1799
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 1: I feel like all of them kind of gave me

1800
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: that too. It kind of was like, I, homeboy, you

1801
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: got a great album, war report is good, boom all

1802
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: you came back with an R EO or what what?

1803
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: That's something different? But they made me and then once

1804
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 1: I said yo, I'm here. Once I then they embraced me.

1805
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I felt like I

1806
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 1: felt like this whack. Let me tell you why. I

1807
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: feel like you should embrace everybody from them agin and

1808
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: then and I feel like it's oppously. I feel like

1809
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 1: we should brace everyone from the beginning. And then those

1810
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 1: person uh get their way out of that circle. They

1811
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: earned their way out of the circle, as opposed to say,

1812
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:53,600
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna keep you out of the

1813
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: circle until you you deserve yourself in and the way

1814
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 1: less mistakes because because you know what, I took on

1815
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: that thing, and I would look at certain artists and

1816
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 1: even drink chance. To a certain extent, this is only

1817
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: for people who've been here ten years. So um so

1818
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: so even it's to a certain extent, it's like I, um,

1819
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: we have to bid certain rules. We have to like

1820
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: if a person's here for seven years, you're putting in network,

1821
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna be here. You're here for

1822
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: five years, you put in net work, I know you're

1823
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 1: gonna be here. You gotta you gotta, you know what

1824
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean. So but I think there's no but I

1825
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 1: think it was all. I think what the reason why

1826
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: I said is our fault is that when we grew

1827
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: up and saying the nineties era, early nineties, we wasn't

1828
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: like I didn't grow up in grad match flash Mellie

1829
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 1: mel Era, I didn't. We didn't dress like them. Actually

1830
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 1: that didn't era, do you know what I'm saying? But

1831
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: that yeah, and even then. But but what I'm trying

1832
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,839
Speaker 1: to say is the Arab right that we were listening

1833
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: to was bigging them up. And so we took them

1834
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 1: and said, if you say that this is the way,

1835
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: then this is our pioneers, and we gotta respect this.

1836
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 1: And so when I said that what what our generation did,

1837
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 1: and I say, all, I'm not saying that I did this, DJ,

1838
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't do this, you know what I'm saying.

1839
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: But I'm saying totality, we did not do the same

1840
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: thing for the younger generation coming after us. We didn't say, hey, guys,

1841
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick these people up so much that you're

1842
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to automatically say, of course these are our pioneers.

1843
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 1: Of course, these are the people we should look up to.

1844
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: We stopped because this is when hip hop started making

1845
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: money and we wanted to be forever. We wanted to

1846
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: be popping balls in the club, and we were like,

1847
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: we don't care about people before us, and were looking

1848
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 1: at we were looking at each other as competition. Yeah,

1849
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: and we was looking at the young ins like competition

1850
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 1: back then, you know, and me getting drunk every day.

1851
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 1: But it's a financial thing too. It was a financial

1852
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: stop putting things in perspective. I'm just on the chase.

1853
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm on the chase, and I'm figuring things out as

1854
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: I go. Now that I get to this place, it's

1855
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: like fun. Damn. It never was about that. It never

1856
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 1: was about that. It never was about being a tough guy,

1857
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: never was about you know what I'm saying. Like, and

1858
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: then you're able to put things into perspective once you

1859
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: get to that place, you gotta apply that ship. You

1860
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 1: gotta apply it, you know what I mean, and started

1861
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: to cut you out. But the difference is I feel

1862
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: today is that people respect the dollar, what what people

1863
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 1: made in this industry, where I feel like our generation

1864
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 1: respected what you did for the culture, Like you didn't

1865
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: have to make a goddamn dollar. But if you, if

1866
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: I knew that you were important to the culture, that

1867
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 1: you were the richest person in the world in my mind.

1868
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen that Mexican kid that rhymed on

1869
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: l alekas what's his name, I don't know Mexican kid.

1870
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: He is hard what's his name? I don't know viral

1871
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: from Tiajuana at all. Yeah, but he don't look at

1872
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: like he looked like he's moving reeen like he like

1873
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 1: he don't like like hey like I'm told about, but

1874
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm to about his bars, like I don't know what

1875
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: to be seen playing. Let me see, let me see

1876
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: his face. He's on the l A leaguers because I

1877
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: was on yard long here. Yeah, like I told you,

1878
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: look at the wolf. What's his name? Let me see? Yeah?

1879
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh man, he care because I'm watching l A leaking

1880
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 1: ship and then he popped up right after that. I'm like,

1881
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: because I'm looking like, hold on, man, you know, booming

1882
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 1: and he starts spinning home and ship hip hop is different, man,

1883
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, we sucked up? Man. Just what the fund

1884
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 1: is that a lot of people. I felt like some

1885
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 1: people may have may have been they might not be

1886
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: able to embrace the newer generation because they feel like

1887
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: they ship might be running out, or they might have

1888
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 1: been a little scared the turner, you know, the past

1889
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,640
Speaker 1: that along the fast. I'll tell you the truth. I

1890
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: think it's actual. I think it's deeper than wrap things. Actually,

1891
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods like if you realize and again, um, this

1892
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: is allegedly because I don't know technically, if you look

1893
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 1: like Chicago, I remember Chicago was safe. It was still

1894
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: dangerous for people in Chicago, but it was safe because

1895
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: all the ogs had everything in control. I remember going

1896
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: to compete Green two thirty three o'clock at night and

1897
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 1: nis like, Nori, you're good. I'm hearing shots and like

1898
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 1: the shots going over there. You're good, you stay right here.

1899
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 1: I remember that. But then it was up time when

1900
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 1: they took all the ogs away. And this is when

1901
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Chicago to me, this is allegedly. There's no pure facts.

1902
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: This is just what I see since the o G

1903
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 1: since to Larry, who was since these people got took away,

1904
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: Since these you know, I don't want to keep since

1905
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: they got took away, Chicago is the wildest place on art.

1906
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: It's not one of the wilders. But I'm telling you that.

1907
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: For me, I don't know saying this is facts. But

1908
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 1: when I seen the old g s there, I felt safer.

1909
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 1: It was it was an order, like people wasn't just

1910
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: doing nothing. Now it feels like the wild wild Watch.

1911
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but but what you're saying happened

1912
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 1: on the street level. I feel like hip hop didn't itself.

1913
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: We took ourselves out of That's my point. My point

1914
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: was we followed the streets. I'm saying that right, But

1915
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 1: the streets people got locked up. The system took him

1916
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 1: out of the streets. We just said we got locked

1917
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 1: up to but it's it's reporters just said it's we

1918
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: got locked up. In the mind. If I helped this

1919
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 1: is a little dude, then they might start working with him. Something.

1920
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: I felt like some people might have had that right,

1921
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 1: and they've been and of course the younger generation we

1922
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean ship, we might have felt like that plenty

1923
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: of times when we walked in and people was more

1924
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: scared of what you could do. Of course you're scared

1925
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 1: people when you do that fast, because that's that's that's

1926
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 1: what it's about. Collaboration is about me giving you my

1927
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: fans you give me. Yeah, that's what That's what we were.

1928
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: That's what we remember. And we can't deny the the

1929
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:09,759
Speaker 1: industry side of it, Like the the machine that doesn't

1930
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 1: care about culture, doesn't care about what's going on. They're

1931
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 1: just like, we just want to make money and investment,

1932
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 1: and so they don't care. So whatever they think is

1933
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 1: a fat they're gonna go ahead and replicate it and

1934
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 1: then keep it moving, you know, and then they spend

1935
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 1: marketing dollars to market that to you. Right, This is

1936
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: the kind of record you need to be making. So

1937
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 1: all the youngest coming up just all they gotta do

1938
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 1: is watch TV and they just want to be that.

1939
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 1: I heard you say that when you got the Sony,

1940
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 1: When you got the Sony, that you hired the stylus,

1941
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 1: you you had grinded what that wasn't your that that

1942
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: wasn't your idea. No, okay, you remember the stylars name.

1943
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: I remember her name, but I don't want to I

1944
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,719
Speaker 1: don't want to say because she was a good star,

1945
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 1: she was a good stolars. It just the things that

1946
01:45:56,080 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: she was pulling. It wasn't me, you know what I mean.

1947
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: Everyone has a shiny sup moment in the hip hop

1948
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: everyone um today huh today, I'm telling like us, like

1949
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 1: our generation. I think. I think. I think I think

1950
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 1: because when we come into the game, we're accepting, you

1951
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because we don't really know exactly

1952
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 1: what we I didn't know. I didn't even know how

1953
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 1: to make albums, So you know, of course I was

1954
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: willing to try some ship because at that moment, I

1955
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: just thought I wanted to be famous, you know what

1956
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like, you know, everything is trial area,

1957
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 1: so you you're willing to you're willing to try some things.

1958
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to be looked at. It's hard to

1959
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 1: work with. You don't want to be looked at. It

1960
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 1: all these things which I ended up being called all

1961
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 1: of those things. Anyway, you look for change. And I

1962
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: used to go on the elevators and white ladies just

1963
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: look at me and be like, what did anybody look

1964
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 1: at you crazy for having a goat? Because you know,

1965
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm just white. People looked at you. Everybody looks at

1966
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 1: you crazy. But but but but but in retrospect, because

1967
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 1: goat like really something, this is nominous for our culture.

1968
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't see other people saying go and really like,

1969
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: so you have a goat grain You've ever been on

1970
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: a plane and somebody just looked at you. I haven't

1971
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 1: warned it on the plane yet. You haven't worn it

1972
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 1: on the plane yet. But it attracts a lot of attention.

1973
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 1: It attracts a lot of attention. That's why I don't

1974
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: really wear it that much. I mean I had it.

1975
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 1: I had it on pretty much every day for my

1976
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 1: for my for my press round from intensive purposes. But

1977
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 1: I don't really wear it like that, man, you know,

1978
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: because whenever I wear it. Somebody asked me something. It

1979
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 1: made you get it. I wanted to pay my respects

1980
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 1: to all the goats. I wanted to pay my respects

1981
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 1: to all the goats. And also, um, I think the

1982
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 1: world on myself lyrically, and I want to show the

1983
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: younger generation that you should think the world to yourself.

1984
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 1: So you know you are saying you are a goat.

1985
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. I'm saying that. I'm in the conversation. Now, goddamn,

1986
01:47:55,200 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 1: let's say you are saying you are. I listened to

1987
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 1: your albums. I wanted you to not I wanted you.

1988
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to catch a slip up. I wanted to

1989
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 1: catch like you. You know, I'm tight with a vocal

1990
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 1: or being lazy somewhere, and you really took gift for

1991
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: the time, and I am I correct with that like

1992
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 1: you like damn always. I mean not when I was drinking. Okay, yeah,

1993
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: I listened the whole for the album. I had to

1994
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 1: do the whole ship all drunk. I did it all drunk.

1995
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 1: I wasted. I'm telling you this classic though, what makes

1996
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 1: the classics. I'm telling you, man, you go back and

1997
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: you fix all that ship. It's too clean to this day.

1998
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: I won't. I won't. I won't sucking drink while I

1999
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 1: vocals because it's a wasting time. You notice a difference, No,

2000
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: I always slar like even if no one else can't

2001
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: catch it. I listened to myself and like fun because

2002
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 1: you're thinking more now, Yeah yeah yeah black. Then it

2003
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: was more of a film. Yeah yeah, So like, um

2004
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 1: I did uh? I record with Mr Elliott on um

2005
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 1: I'm flat album, azy dogged out and I'm gonna get

2006
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: what we did. And I don't know if it was

2007
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: Missy people's I was drinking with, but I got drunken

2008
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 1: ship and I just laid whenever the fundus up and

2009
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: then Missy later hush, And I just always knew to

2010
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 1: change my first I always knew, but I go, like, damn,

2011
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: we did it like in the same vicinity, and if

2012
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 1: I do what, I'm gonna be able to suck it.

2013
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: This this as a girl too, she might just really

2014
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 1: blow it up. And like this didn't change and ship,

2015
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 1: so I just left it. But I always was. I

2016
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: believe she's smoking. I believe it, bro I believe I

2017
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 1: had two worst to make it worst smoking. And I

2018
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: paid the vote too. I paid it to smoke me,

2019
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 1: but I always knew and I crep with that, and

2020
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,600
Speaker 1: since then I had never recorded drunk again, Like I

2021
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 1: mean I have recorded drunk, but that that record has

2022
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: never came out. I mean like that version of me

2023
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 1: being drunk. What about body and the trunk with nas

2024
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: no body? Trump was so with Ship yea, but not

2025
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: when we're smoking, like when I say so, but I

2026
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,560
Speaker 1: mean not drinking to me, this is this is this

2027
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: is my my cigarette instead of smoking cigarette. But yeah,

2028
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: that was a sober session that ship. Um. Yeah, I

2029
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 1: spoke to the other day. He's I think he's in

2030
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 1: that light, living his best life out there Bahamas. All

2031
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 1: types of ship man goddam you know that that like

2032
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: when I hear you guys speak about him and see

2033
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: the normality. I don't know if that's a word, but

2034
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, the normalism. It always because like like when

2035
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: I speak to Jail, I speak to that, like I

2036
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 1: always was saying, I always a funk with them, like

2037
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 1: ask them some normal ship like just to see if

2038
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 1: they know. And it's always like it's always crazy, like

2039
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, Um, I suppose Jay the other day and

2040
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 1: I was just like, um, it was I didn't realize

2041
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 1: it was um the day pop Smoke died. So I

2042
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you know, be safe and you know me,

2043
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: and then he was just like, yo, man, the kid

2044
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 1: was only twenty years old. And I was just saying

2045
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 1: the generic would just be safe. He was like the

2046
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: kids only twenty years old. And I was just like, damn,

2047
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 1: he really fucking knows, like I ain't gonna lie be

2048
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 1: things that I wouldn't be thinking about. None of you

2049
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: niggers never thought out. You wouldn't even understand the level

2050
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 1: of Hollywood, my dude, Like, Yo, did you see Kanye?

2051
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 1: Just now? Kanye went to Sunday service in Paris and

2052
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 1: he had to do with the umbrella for it, sneakers,

2053
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what we had to do with the umbrella?

2054
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: Just wanted seekers what you mean for a sea look

2055
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 1: like he had other security, right, yeah, other security out

2056
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 1: there as he was walking out right. But so he's

2057
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 1: getting out to the joint, so it looks like if

2058
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: you look, it looks like he's just holding Unbrella, but

2059
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 1: other people there if you look at the wide angle

2060
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: and other people there, so it looks like this guy

2061
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,680
Speaker 1: just he got steps off the car and as the

2062
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,839
Speaker 1: one sneaker comes out, the umbrella comes for the sneaker,

2063
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: right that. I never saw that before. I said, I

2064
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: think we should make some know how, you know, if

2065
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 1: the petty motherfucking I don't spend that half an hour

2066
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: and try to figure out what the fun is because

2067
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: it's not. I was like, only ship, but yeah, that's

2068
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how you got here? How did you

2069
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 1: get here? Came back? I don't know how long, because

2070
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 1: like you were meeting to be in Hollywood. If you can't, yeah,

2071
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let me get back to that. Let

2072
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 1: me get back to that. Let me just tell you something.

2073
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 1: You know. The King does the moon, Yeah, like that.

2074
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 1: VALUE took pictures with recently, the King of some fucking

2075
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: moon though. Yeah yeah, man, I saw you picture all

2076
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 1: over the fucking gram. He's from my ans, he said,

2077
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 1: he's an print of someplace in Africa. For real, I'm

2078
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:02,759
Speaker 1: taking prints with just that. Drugs, Like I was supposed

2079
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 1: to have his phone number, so that jam I was

2080
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: talking about when these guys were talking about jeez, so

2081
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 1: you guys don't miss doing drugs at all. Right, listen,

2082
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 1: man each his own because he me me. I believe

2083
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 1: it's it's about the person. Like, you know, it's about

2084
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 1: the person. Like, um, I've known a person named Keith

2085
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 1: who five years like crazy, then five years, will go

2086
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: to the army, then come back, two years, will be

2087
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 1: out head in two more years, go to the army.

2088
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 1: So like I knew people who knew how to really

2089
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 1: really control it. So um, but then I knew people

2090
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: who did who could I know people who are still

2091
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: out there. So what was the moment where it was like, yo,

2092
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 1: this is it for me? What was what was your rock?

2093
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 1: Is it rock bottom that you have to hear? Absolutely? Absolutely?

2094
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 1: I think, I think um. In order to truly get

2095
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: yourself prepared to go into sobriety and work the steps

2096
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 1: and work the ship, you gotta be over it. You

2097
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 1: gotta be tired of it, you know, like into me.

2098
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 1: So many different things happened to me as a result

2099
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 1: of just being drunk all the time. And I made

2100
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 1: so many bad decisions, you know what I mean, like

2101
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: hurt people, you know what I mean, like just just

2102
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: everything bad in my life. Just you know, I nominated

2103
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: was always alcohol fat bitches, Uh, A couple of fat bitches.

2104
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean that was easy, that's easy. I feel like

2105
01:54:48,560 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 1: he kept the standards This is in no way any

2106
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 1: shot too over look, what do you call it? Plus

2107
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: sign plus size women. I was about to say oversize

2108
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: that a little bad would have got bad friends. This

2109
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: is in no way any type of shot to plus

2110
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 1: size women. I don't think I've ever really done that

2111
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 1: like that, But I mean it was way deeper than that,

2112
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, like I got into a car accident my

2113
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 1: first bolder. Let's keep it light right now. A couple

2114
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 1: of ugly bitches though, yeah, we all business. We all

2115
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 1: snashed the ship in the morning. Was like, no, I

2116
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 1: think I think that was like part of being a

2117
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 1: rapper coming from the nineties. You know, we just did

2118
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 1: as the Romans. Dude, we just came in. We have

2119
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: a wing man. Anybody, I'm not gonna lie, let me

2120
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:03,879
Speaker 1: your something. One of years of faces, not recently Capone

2121
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: was the best wing man in the game. He'll take

2122
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: the one anything, they'll take the friends no power, Like

2123
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, you got the bad one and she got

2124
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: the ugly ugly that like different you look at du

2125
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 1: get all your other friends to be like, you know,

2126
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 1: I got I got, I got, I got Kimberly Sydney

2127
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 1: what Sydney, I ain't gonna I kim believe I got Kimberly,

2128
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: all right, they got take sitting, I take down take anything.

2129
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Then my whole, my whole career is wing man in

2130
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 1: the game. My whole career. I've been with my wife

2131
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: the whole time, and so my whole drink while I

2132
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 1: was drinking that whole process with just a struggle to

2133
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 1: try to stay faithful, you know what I mean? So

2134
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 1: I never was the wing man? Ship? Was you a

2135
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: wingman or been winged? I've definitely been you've been a wingman.

2136
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 1: Don't tell me for amy, don't tell me you how

2137
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: he was a wing man? You know what I do know?

2138
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 1: Yah know he's a way man. For proof I be.

2139
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: I definitely women proof. He did not play but a

2140
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: man approve of grabs some tricks on the dance, but

2141
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: we'd be dancing and Ship, I've been a wingman a

2142
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 1: couple of times. Have you been a wing man? You?

2143
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie if you were drunk that you

2144
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 1: might have been wing man together. You seem a little

2145
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 1: wing ish me and now hanging out together in that

2146
01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: and that way. Now, yeah, I know, huh crave digs funk.

2147
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 1: You acted like you the devil that knows Scinder give

2148
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 1: me sight to grave days, dude, are you wrong? We'll see.

2149
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 1: What's your favorite part about the game? This what just seeing.

2150
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: And when we first started working together, one thing I

2151
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 1: wanted to do was hear people mention him as the

2152
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 1: best th I don't know if we talked we said it,

2153
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 1: but it was like one of the things that I

2154
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, I want people to know what I

2155
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 1: know about you, and I think the growth and watching

2156
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: that growth and watching it happens. Being a producer ain't

2157
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 1: just producing music. Sometimes you're producing people. You're producing character

2158
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 1: and trying to Because when he went through, that's what

2159
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: made me be like, all right, I'm not gonna drink.

2160
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this. It made me chill the

2161
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 1: funk out because I seemed like all of your unit

2162
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 1: got tight after that, like m you um even like yeah,

2163
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 1: y'all tell me, do you tell me if this is straight?

2164
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 1: Like around that time, Dr Dre made everyone go to

2165
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: the studio that I mean, to the to the gym.

2166
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: I heard. I heard he made the engineers. I heard

2167
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: he made the intern He definitely did. He had everybody

2168
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, it was all on it. When when

2169
01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 1: everybody that was there, you know, but and it felt

2170
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 1: like m did somewhat the same thing, which didn't force

2171
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 1: nobody to do because it was his battlem Okay, So

2172
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: still in the studios, there's people still smoking around. Don't

2173
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: know that that's it's just I mean, slaughter house. At

2174
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 1: one point, it was a couple of times, but he

2175
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 1: wasn't at the studio all the time. He used to

2176
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 1: let us use the studio sometimes before I had my studio.

2177
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 1: Who's spoken sort of house crooking Crook smokes, the guard

2178
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 1: smokes Guard. Now nobody was smoking. The Joe smoke cigarettes

2179
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 1: back here. I'm not even sure if he smokes. But

2180
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 1: it was just a lot of drinking. We used to.

2181
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 1: We used to use his studio and he'd come in

2182
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 1: and the next morning and they'll just be bottles and

2183
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 1: ship all over the place. He didn't care, okay about that?

2184
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 1: Is that a trigger for any of y'all, like when

2185
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 1: y'all see um Like, not for me, but I could

2186
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 1: I could see where that could be problematic for somebody else.

2187
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 1: I just prefer, I'm sorry, I mean to you, brother,

2188
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: I just prefer everybody to beat themselves, you know what.

2189
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because if you know, like if you get

2190
01:59:57,640 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 1: like when we worked on the last Slat of House

2191
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:02,960
Speaker 1: album and I first guy sober, the one that didn't

2192
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 1: come out. I used to be in the studio Niggers

2193
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 1: used to be hiding bottles and ship like that. That's worse. Now.

2194
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being handled. Treat me like an addict,

2195
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I just want everybody

2196
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 1: to be their selves. Whatever you need to do to

2197
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 1: get in your element, please do that, man, Because it's

2198
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 1: not like if you're hungry and you smell some steak

2199
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 1: being cooked. You know what I'm saying. It's nothing like that.

2200
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 1: It's way more mental than that, you know what I'm saying. So,

2201
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 1: and you're not really defeating I don't think you're really

2202
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: beating your addiction when if you hide from it, right,

2203
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, it allows you to keep exercising what you're

2204
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:36,040
Speaker 1: already doing. Smoke a cigarettes. People will walk away from

2205
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 1: me when they're supposed to cigarette. I was like I said,

2206
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 1: I said that the guy outside of Houston is not

2207
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 1: gonna walk away from me. He's going to smoke a

2208
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: cigarette in front of me, just as well. I said

2209
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 1: for my friend Sunny d bt he smoked feet cigarettes

2210
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 1: like pneumon your feet and sand paper. It's terrible. That's

2211
02:00:53,520 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 1: what kind of marble American spirits Americans American? So you

2212
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 1: let me tell you something about the one with the

2213
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: Indian man on the fun. Yeah, you know, let me

2214
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:19,160
Speaker 1: tell you something. Let me tell you something about fun.

2215
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. You know what you

2216
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 1: say they say, they say, if this was a person,

2217
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 1: this is if if if, if I don't give a

2218
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 1: funk about my life, was a cigarette right there? That

2219
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 1: ship right, yeah, that should smell. That'shr oval power to goal.

2220
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:40,760
Speaker 1: You're smoking. To god, that's just my like fucking bust.

2221
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 1: Smoke is horrible, my god. So you guys don't miss

2222
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 1: get high. That's good, that's great. Let makes no noise

2223
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:51,560
Speaker 1: for that. I don't massic. And you you faith, you

2224
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:53,960
Speaker 1: you have you have a girl? No, no, no, So

2225
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:57,080
Speaker 1: you're out there still still still I mean, I mean,

2226
02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 1: you know you can have people in your life, but

2227
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 1: it's like trying to figure it out. Is that like

2228
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:04,320
Speaker 1: I haven't done what I wanted to do with my

2229
02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:08,080
Speaker 1: life yet I'm not there, So it's like, what can

2230
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 1: I offer you if I'm not happy? M Jesus, you

2231
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 1: know it's deep. I can I can love you, I

2232
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 1: can love you, I can work with you. You can

2233
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 1: you can ride with me through the journey. But then

2234
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:21,360
Speaker 1: the same thing as being artists, the destination, family is

2235
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 1: the destination. So until I can provide that and give

2236
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 1: you that, I can't give you that. I finally happy.

2237
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 1: He's strapping up straight, Strap it up, strap it up.

2238
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: You know nigga's out here going wrong. Corona virus without

2239
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:41,920
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. I think it's going niggas going wrong without

2240
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 1: the coronas growing them. Are you know what? It's that

2241
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 1: That's another reason why I'm faithful, man like I wish

2242
02:02:56,360 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 1: I would be caught dead using a goddamn kind brown

2243
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 1: ass man, Doug, I ain't gonna like your colors. Just think,

2244
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 1: just think. Coming since last you, I was like, where

2245
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 1: did this come? And you don't want to go to

2246
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 1: your calls and you with Charlie. Okay, tell the story.

2247
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 1: This grand used the corn together. No, that's not true.

2248
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 1: This can't mix up his own stick. What are you

2249
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: talking about? Then he had Charlie in the equation though

2250
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 1: that was some weird all he was there, Charlie char

2251
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:45,080
Speaker 1: we're not gonna go down this path. And when your

2252
02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 1: friends both use the same column bottom not no, no, no, Bob, listen,

2253
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:53,320
Speaker 1: you will say it out. You will hain't out that.

2254
02:03:56,520 --> 02:04:00,200
Speaker 1: What happened somebody left the room and somebody else picked

2255
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 1: up some joint off the ground. Already you into town.

2256
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:06,840
Speaker 1: That's what happened. I won on Charlie. I want nobody else,

2257
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 1: don't remixing, and we set the remix. You' he fucked

2258
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: you wasn't second shure, I'm playing some good And then

2259
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 1: I heard some others hid. We already said you're good

2260
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 1: looking at homie for giving me a huge on that

2261
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:44,720
Speaker 1: he took me shit off hand. Listen, he hid far

2262
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 1: nory like tet and know he's like you. So when

2263
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 1: I found out and said, yo, you know this ship come,

2264
02:04:54,960 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: I'd say, whoa. I wasn't used to my navy ship

2265
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 1: at that time. Things different. No, it was like I

2266
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 1: used to use comsas maybe but hey man, let's make

2267
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:18,320
Speaker 1: some noise for you have been using can no classmate

2268
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 1: here ye here with you know, but but but what

2269
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: every year there's a measles just the mom's just all

2270
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:32,320
Speaker 1: this ship and I thought you was naming gangs, the

2271
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 1: mess and the mothers very you know it's something that

2272
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 1: ship that just pop off? Who's the other ship was

2273
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 1: in Chicken? Was the ship in the chicken? The sorry

2274
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 1: no no, no, that's you're talking about all of these

2275
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:54,520
Speaker 1: new viruses and by the US. Yeah, like and right

2276
02:05:54,560 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 1: now you're going on Amazon. You can't even buy the

2277
02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:01,560
Speaker 1: ship out of the face man that they'd be having

2278
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 1: on They can't even buy that joint. So where do

2279
02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 1: you get them? Tyrese House? I think Tyres He's the

2280
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 1: only thing guys left. You got the only black nigger one.

2281
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 1: I thinks bing them all um big, But you think

2282
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 1: you think that we are scared and the purpose he

2283
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:25,360
Speaker 1: putting us in scared or this is something that's one

2284
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,880
Speaker 1: million percent? Will you're speaking about the coronavirus? Yeah, yeah,

2285
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: particular in particular, Yeah, um, I believe it's I believe

2286
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:35,040
Speaker 1: it's something that came from Asia, all right. I believe

2287
02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 1: that because they said that somebody bit a bat and

2288
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 1: that's how I came. But I been a bat. Was

2289
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 1: want back? He been a fake he It was always

2290
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 1: fake wants the o G he was that was no

2291
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:58,800
Speaker 1: if you believe that was real, bro, oh, Dominican public

2292
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 1: stopping really getting one of the Yeah, I totally no.

2293
02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 1: He did it one time, but not every fucking show. Yeah,

2294
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 1: it was alive though when he did it. Yet, Oh man,

2295
02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe in both. Though. I believe in um.

2296
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:21,640
Speaker 1: I believe that a virus can come here from another country.

2297
02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 1: But I also believe in population control too. I believe

2298
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 1: in both. And niggas sucking animals too. You can believe

2299
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 1: in the media sucking it up. I mean, listen, doctors

2300
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 1: sucking it up. We can we can then up. Thing

2301
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 1: is this to me? Every year we had something right.

2302
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 1: Every year was something that new popped up. That's crying wolf.

2303
02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:44,040
Speaker 1: When the real ship happened, ain't nobody gonna be ready.

2304
02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: You know why I think this is the real shift

2305
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:47,800
Speaker 1: happening because Trump is saying this is not the real ship.

2306
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:51,840
Speaker 1: That's just skis. You know, he turned around today here

2307
02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 1: yesterday because the first death in America happened, and then

2308
02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 1: he said, oh, I'm sorry, it's real. Not the state

2309
02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:04,600
Speaker 1: not watching the d c oh Seattle and all that. Whoa,

2310
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 1: they got the best butt out there. Well I'm not,

2311
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm gonna I'm gonna take it is. You know,

2312
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:14,200
Speaker 1: we don't know if once she wants once people started

2313
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:15,960
Speaker 1: driving the ship like that, I just I'm always I

2314
02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:19,080
Speaker 1: really be ready than not. Bernie Satons. If Bernie Santons

2315
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 1: get it, we finished. I don't know what people think that.

2316
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 1: Why do I don't do you? I don't do you

2317
02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 1: get a cold right now, Bernie Santons, this is my man.

2318
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:29,840
Speaker 1: Oh you know you're saying if he gets oh you're saying,

2319
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:35,680
Speaker 1: if he get the fun, he get burn food. Bernie,

2320
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why I'm Bernie them tell you

2321
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 1: why I'm killing. Mike is a very close friend of mine.

2322
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 1: A lot of times I hang out, will kill the Mike.

2323
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 1: We don't post pictures, we don't, you know, just hang out.

2324
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 1: The other day killing Mike comes to town. He said, Yo,

2325
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 1: I want to get some weed, I want to buy

2326
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 1: some food. I want to want to drink, and we're

2327
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:02,320
Speaker 1: having a best time. I kill the best best time.

2328
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 1: And he knows when I started to drink. I don't

2329
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:08,760
Speaker 1: want to be political at all. And because he's a

2330
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:11,600
Speaker 1: very smart person, so when you drunk, you don't want

2331
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 1: to hear no smart shit. So I you know, I'll

2332
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 1: make it clear. You know, let's dumb it down for me.

2333
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:21,800
Speaker 1: The drunker I get, the less I want to comprehend.

2334
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 1: So and this out is when we're just killing me.

2335
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:28,280
Speaker 1: Just chill me Ian and then in't forget how it happens.

2336
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:30,880
Speaker 1: And he just serious. He was like, yo, Bernie's for us,

2337
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 1: And I was just like he knew my stance, he

2338
02:09:34,760 --> 02:09:37,480
Speaker 1: knew everything. But for the way he said it and

2339
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 1: how he said it, I was like, you know what,

2340
02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm working with you, and I'm working with him for that.

2341
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:50,280
Speaker 1: But I do look like I think Aunt could beat

2342
02:09:50,320 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders in the fight who stand up and think

2343
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:02,640
Speaker 1: I think I think it might funk up Bernie sadus

2344
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:05,160
Speaker 1: man because the camera's focus like that don't matter. That

2345
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 1: don't matter, man, the resident to be able to fight. Yeah, Obama,

2346
02:10:10,640 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: let let me tell you something. The way Obama shot

2347
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 1: to jump shot, you could tell you know what to

2348
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:17,240
Speaker 1: do up throw all right hand for real, like you

2349
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like he's saying, Bernie a little old.

2350
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:21,680
Speaker 1: I think Bernie. I think Bernie, I don't know. I'm

2351
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:25,720
Speaker 1: not sure Bernie can stick with us. I'm I'm damn you,

2352
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna with Bernie, I'm sticking with burn What is

2353
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,520
Speaker 1: it the burns? I'm burned? YEA got something to say

2354
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 1: on that? Who you working with? You don't like it?

2355
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 1: I really feel like to me, I always feel like

2356
02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:41,840
Speaker 1: it's like the one thing that we're doing wrong and

2357
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:44,440
Speaker 1: it's just you know, for me watching that the one

2358
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:46,600
Speaker 1: thing you know that you notice about Republicans they don't

2359
02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 1: give a person is a murderer. Yeah, ain't going as

2360
02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:54,400
Speaker 1: long as they're going for they Yeah, they stick with

2361
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,320
Speaker 1: their party next sell. What we do is no man.

2362
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:01,000
Speaker 1: Wenna tore down everybody first. What's called it was winning

2363
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:05,120
Speaker 1: then Bernie was winning. Bible was. What we gotta do

2364
02:11:05,240 --> 02:11:08,400
Speaker 1: is figure out with everything anything you want to work.

2365
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:10,160
Speaker 1: It is some kind of unity you gotta happen, right,

2366
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:13,520
Speaker 1: And everybody keep on talking about how the black vote

2367
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:16,960
Speaker 1: is more more popular. To me, it is letting me

2368
02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:20,120
Speaker 1: know that how powerful we are. And Mike Bloomberg is

2369
02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 1: trying to buy our community Like this nigger, let me

2370
02:11:23,320 --> 02:11:26,000
Speaker 1: just tell you something. I can't go nowhere in the hood.

2371
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 1: Bloomberg guy, like that isn't the hut. He's just blowing

2372
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 1: money because ain't nobody. Yeah, yeah, you think it's gonna work. No,

2373
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:36,600
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie something. He's gonna take some money though,

2374
02:11:37,880 --> 02:11:40,280
Speaker 1: like something. I mean you said you can't do that

2375
02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:42,840
Speaker 1: though you can't pay Yeah, you know not the vote

2376
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:48,240
Speaker 1: for them, and you know what, that's the people that

2377
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 1: Turner was. I think he's the Democratic ship. But what

2378
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:55,440
Speaker 1: I will tell you about Bloomberg is he funked up

2379
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 1: stopping first all that ship it's foul ship. But the

2380
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:02,520
Speaker 1: ship for that ship did mad foul ship. But I'll

2381
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 1: tell you this. The way you correct foul ship is

2382
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 1: to do something correct about it. You can't do something correct.

2383
02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:10,960
Speaker 1: He has your time to try to get voted, but

2384
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 1: the fact that he has a black agenda makes that

2385
02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:16,960
Speaker 1: ship kind of like, well, you can't believe it. We

2386
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 1: get to the office, you can't. You know, somebody people

2387
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:21,320
Speaker 1: can start doing this. You got another RoCE prior to

2388
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:26,840
Speaker 1: I think I'm getting high off contact. Okay, good, yeah,

2389
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 1: I was. I'm sinking down more into my stoically. This

2390
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:35,920
Speaker 1: is my first like really really And you watched Bill

2391
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 1: Moore who I watched Bill absolutely not well he talked

2392
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:44,000
Speaker 1: about him on the time. Oh I watched Bill Mark.

2393
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 1: But what he said gave him because because of the

2394
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:50,200
Speaker 1: Nigger Ship. Yeah, oh, but he just watched the actually show.

2395
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:52,840
Speaker 1: When he did, okay, I didn't feel I didn't feel

2396
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:55,160
Speaker 1: like he meant it. And you know what, it was

2397
02:12:55,440 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 1: Iceque checking him. I watched that too. I love that good.

2398
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:01,160
Speaker 1: When ice c checked up and how he checked him,

2399
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:05,120
Speaker 1: I immediately forgave. I'm not boycott. You can't forgive him

2400
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:07,880
Speaker 1: for it. I mean I did I forget. I don't

2401
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:10,360
Speaker 1: think you just forgive me. Forgive him. You know what

2402
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:12,560
Speaker 1: it is? He used a joke how I would use

2403
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:17,080
Speaker 1: the joke. And that's what it thinks being around brother sometimes,

2404
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:20,920
Speaker 1: like you're listen, it's a habit. And I don't mean

2405
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 1: to take out for him, but if you hang around

2406
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:27,080
Speaker 1: your crip homie, trust me your cause your cause, no

2407
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:30,360
Speaker 1: cu us, it's just inevitable. You hanging around your blood holie.

2408
02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 1: After while, you're like blood, Like damn what you catch yourself.

2409
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:36,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a black pool so much. I

2410
02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 1: feel like Bill is a brilliant man. Brilliant. Yes, he's

2411
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:40,640
Speaker 1: a brilliant man, and I feel like he knows better.

2412
02:13:41,640 --> 02:13:43,640
Speaker 1: You know that, That's what I think. I feel like.

2413
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm not like boycotting him or anything.

2414
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:49,240
Speaker 1: I just I just have n't. I take more Gucci

2415
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 1: a desire to get back into the show after I've

2416
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 1: seen him. I take more fistic Gucci Gucci, and I

2417
02:13:56,680 --> 02:14:00,120
Speaker 1: did with Bill More because I kind of don't know

2418
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:02,000
Speaker 1: him as a person. I don't know him as a person,

2419
02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:04,320
Speaker 1: but I followed, you know, his other shows, and I

2420
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:06,600
Speaker 1: lead him to him. He's definitely not racist, He's definitely

2421
02:14:06,680 --> 02:14:08,640
Speaker 1: not that guy. He used it in the wrong way

2422
02:14:08,680 --> 02:14:11,040
Speaker 1: and using the wrong content, you know, and he shouldn't

2423
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:12,560
Speaker 1: have used it at all. I never I never took

2424
02:14:12,800 --> 02:14:15,920
Speaker 1: to use it Allucci is a big corporation. I never

2425
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,880
Speaker 1: took it as him being racist. And remember Bill Moore

2426
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:22,320
Speaker 1: was live, especially irresponsible. He was live. Bill Moore was live.

2427
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:25,040
Speaker 1: Is not live. Gucci has to go through a whole

2428
02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:27,680
Speaker 1: bunch of processes. It was playing out that that kind

2429
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:29,920
Speaker 1: of scene playing out to me, Gucci, you know, Bill

2430
02:14:29,960 --> 02:14:32,400
Speaker 1: More again, it was and I'm not defending them because

2431
02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:34,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't need me defend on them, but it was live.

2432
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:37,680
Speaker 1: It was something He's like, Hey, I'm not I'm a

2433
02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm a house nigger. That's what he said, and it was.

2434
02:14:41,720 --> 02:14:43,920
Speaker 1: It was definitely shouldn't have been said. Definitely was wrong,

2435
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:46,680
Speaker 1: Definitely was out of content. But I feel like that

2436
02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:49,720
Speaker 1: was live. It was it was. It was a mistake, Gucci.

2437
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:53,000
Speaker 1: There's no way you couldn't have known him that, you know,

2438
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:56,560
Speaker 1: having that And it wasn't Burberry, I think too. It

2439
02:14:56,680 --> 02:15:01,360
Speaker 1: was it was like somebody like it was like Claire.

2440
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:04,040
Speaker 1: It was like back to back in a week, and

2441
02:15:04,240 --> 02:15:07,240
Speaker 1: um uh it was Burbery, right, it was Burber. And

2442
02:15:08,560 --> 02:15:10,120
Speaker 1: this is what this is what, this is what I feel.

2443
02:15:10,120 --> 02:15:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm off off subject. So we all

2444
02:15:12,520 --> 02:15:16,040
Speaker 1: did this boycott BOYCOTTI Gucci, right, not all of us,

2445
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:20,320
Speaker 1: we most of us did right. Then Gucci comes to

2446
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:24,240
Speaker 1: the hood because two million dollars to uh well representative

2447
02:15:24,280 --> 02:15:27,080
Speaker 1: Gucci gives two million dollars to I believe a black community.

2448
02:15:27,080 --> 02:15:30,040
Speaker 1: I forget what it was. And Dapper Dan is there

2449
02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:34,160
Speaker 1: and then not everyone's back wick Gucci, what is your stand?

2450
02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:37,600
Speaker 1: So Dapper Dan is a legend, but no, no, not

2451
02:15:37,720 --> 02:15:39,760
Speaker 1: that dad. We know japer Dan, we know that one,

2452
02:15:39,880 --> 02:15:42,480
Speaker 1: like that's the legend with Guccio, with Algen for sure,

2453
02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:45,080
Speaker 1: but the actual situation because he didn't have nothing to

2454
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:47,320
Speaker 1: do with that. Yeah, I mean I don't know. I

2455
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:51,080
Speaker 1: don't know um enough about that part of the situation

2456
02:15:51,160 --> 02:15:53,200
Speaker 1: per se to be able to speak about it intelligently.

2457
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:58,440
Speaker 1: I will say this, Um, I agree with you. I

2458
02:15:58,520 --> 02:16:00,400
Speaker 1: agree with you. I don't think there's some like that

2459
02:16:00,720 --> 02:16:03,000
Speaker 1: a trigger like a trigger like that can be pulled

2460
02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:06,240
Speaker 1: without it being well thought out and it's going through

2461
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 1: proper channels. And I just feel like somebody should have

2462
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:12,160
Speaker 1: seen it before it came out. And when things like

2463
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:15,040
Speaker 1: that happened, people need to be held accountable, you know.

2464
02:16:15,240 --> 02:16:17,960
Speaker 1: And and and it's okay to accept the apology. It's

2465
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:20,240
Speaker 1: okay to accept the apology and move forward. As long

2466
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:22,240
Speaker 1: as we can move forward in a way it's helpful

2467
02:16:22,520 --> 02:16:25,640
Speaker 1: to everybody. And these things don't just keep repeating ourselves.

2468
02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:29,000
Speaker 1: What would happen if we really controlled them dollar, Like

2469
02:16:29,080 --> 02:16:31,200
Speaker 1: if we really said, yo, you know what, for the

2470
02:16:31,240 --> 02:16:34,640
Speaker 1: whole month of March, we're only gonna wear makes it

2471
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:38,120
Speaker 1: mong yellow. We're only gonna wear this, this, this, and that.

2472
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:40,960
Speaker 1: We're only gonna buy this type of groceries. We're only

2473
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:43,879
Speaker 1: gonna buy what it happens to we really controlled our dollars,

2474
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:46,200
Speaker 1: and I'm not let me let me make it bigger

2475
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:50,080
Speaker 1: than just black people. Let me let me clude hip hop.

2476
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:54,680
Speaker 1: I think I think it would be that moment that

2477
02:16:54,800 --> 02:16:57,960
Speaker 1: we realize the value that we bring to this country.

2478
02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:01,360
Speaker 1: We're real, lot, We're real. That's how powerful we are.

2479
02:17:01,680 --> 02:17:06,360
Speaker 1: That's what the introtion from a com um. But we

2480
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:09,640
Speaker 1: will we will also too. To me, always feel like

2481
02:17:09,680 --> 02:17:12,920
Speaker 1: the Boogeyman on short space at that point. Remember tos Oklahoma.

2482
02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:16,720
Speaker 1: Remember that's why that happened, because of that, because of

2483
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:20,520
Speaker 1: that unification. Because they unified and they did that. I

2484
02:17:20,600 --> 02:17:23,160
Speaker 1: heard why a fuck up um say the other day

2485
02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:27,680
Speaker 1: he said a Puffy jay Z, Birdman and Dr Dre

2486
02:17:27,840 --> 02:17:30,840
Speaker 1: always to get a label. There was no one would

2487
02:17:30,840 --> 02:17:33,199
Speaker 1: be signed there would it would be no more labels.

2488
02:17:33,480 --> 02:17:36,560
Speaker 1: It would be no more labels. Like that's they forget everything.

2489
02:17:36,959 --> 02:17:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we were all signed to them. We will

2490
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:41,000
Speaker 1: all be like, give me an independent deal, give me

2491
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:43,480
Speaker 1: a major deal, whatever, and that this would be us

2492
02:17:43,560 --> 02:17:45,800
Speaker 1: control of us. Like why the funk that doesn't really

2493
02:17:45,879 --> 02:17:49,520
Speaker 1: happen like it might. Nobody really say it. It goes

2494
02:17:49,560 --> 02:17:51,320
Speaker 1: into what I've been what I've been kind of saying

2495
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:54,040
Speaker 1: throughout my whole pressure run is um. We just need

2496
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:57,440
Speaker 1: to start thinking more as a collective than as individuals

2497
02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, Um jay Z Puff Dre. They don't have

2498
02:18:01,640 --> 02:18:04,240
Speaker 1: to be their own entities, you know what I mean,

2499
02:18:04,360 --> 02:18:07,200
Speaker 1: Like they can also think it's collective, just like us

2500
02:18:07,240 --> 02:18:10,160
Speaker 1: as artists need to think more collect ship the same

2501
02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:12,920
Speaker 1: way that they Walker is saying that they conform something

2502
02:18:12,920 --> 02:18:16,200
Speaker 1: Ship me you Walker and killing Mike can form a label,

2503
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like we just need to

2504
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:23,320
Speaker 1: start thinking about how much more pertinent our movements would

2505
02:18:23,360 --> 02:18:25,880
Speaker 1: be if we started to think about the possibility of

2506
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:28,320
Speaker 1: us coming together as opposed of us looking at it

2507
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:30,200
Speaker 1: like we're in competition with each other. I think what

2508
02:18:30,320 --> 02:18:33,800
Speaker 1: Waca was saying is like the tops and then all

2509
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:38,720
Speaker 1: of us will right now, right now, you one pick

2510
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:40,360
Speaker 1: up the all. Like I said, I love what Alan

2511
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:42,040
Speaker 1: is doing with you, and he's a good guys you

2512
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:45,199
Speaker 1: know the other day, but no one would really sign

2513
02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:47,640
Speaker 1: with that, Like if they had a division, if they

2514
02:18:47,680 --> 02:18:49,879
Speaker 1: had an E one division with Dre, that people will

2515
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:51,080
Speaker 1: go over there, you know what I'm saying, Like I

2516
02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:54,480
Speaker 1: under staying, Like I imagine one day with hip hop

2517
02:18:54,520 --> 02:18:56,480
Speaker 1: controlling the hip hop. This is the reason why even

2518
02:18:56,560 --> 02:18:58,840
Speaker 1: drink chapter is this is because we want to be

2519
02:18:58,920 --> 02:19:01,160
Speaker 1: the people that you know interview to ours, people have

2520
02:19:01,280 --> 02:19:02,800
Speaker 1: been in the locker room with you, like you know

2521
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:04,720
Speaker 1: I got I don't have one album, like I don't

2522
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:07,760
Speaker 1: have one hit. I haven't tremendously have a whole bunch.

2523
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:11,120
Speaker 1: I have real stories playing catalog what I'm saying. And

2524
02:19:11,600 --> 02:19:14,800
Speaker 1: not only that, I still go to other people's shows,

2525
02:19:14,879 --> 02:19:17,120
Speaker 1: like Freddie Gibbs the other day was out here. I

2526
02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:18,840
Speaker 1: went to his show and he trying to give me

2527
02:19:18,920 --> 02:19:20,320
Speaker 1: the co on stage. I was like, that's not why

2528
02:19:20,360 --> 02:19:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm here, Like I'm here to support you and watch

2529
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:26,360
Speaker 1: and I need to understand why you're the next guy

2530
02:19:26,440 --> 02:19:29,520
Speaker 1: for the next generation. That's I'm really a fan. I

2531
02:19:29,640 --> 02:19:32,640
Speaker 1: just feel like when we do can really really control.

2532
02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:37,000
Speaker 1: Like that's why I love, uh what everyone else is

2533
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,000
Speaker 1: doing with me, not just us. You know what I'm saying,

2534
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:41,000
Speaker 1: I salute you don't get me to be from with nobody.

2535
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:44,000
Speaker 1: You don't get hit me because I don't really care.

2536
02:19:44,120 --> 02:19:47,120
Speaker 1: Like we're not in the competition. And that's one of

2537
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:48,920
Speaker 1: the reasons why we did the deal what we did,

2538
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:51,680
Speaker 1: Like we could have went other places and really really

2539
02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:55,760
Speaker 1: went outside the culture and really secured futures for us,

2540
02:19:55,959 --> 02:19:57,880
Speaker 1: but we said we were to stick with the culture,

2541
02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:01,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because it's things that you know,

2542
02:20:02,320 --> 02:20:05,160
Speaker 1: certain companies probably won't let us say. Properties probably tell

2543
02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:07,240
Speaker 1: us its dumb the weed. Now certain companies and party

2544
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, tell us, you know what I'm saying, don't

2545
02:20:08,920 --> 02:20:11,000
Speaker 1: interview this this guy, interview these types of people, you

2546
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:12,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And we wanted to stick with

2547
02:20:12,520 --> 02:20:15,039
Speaker 1: the culture. But I wonder when when is the culture

2548
02:20:15,120 --> 02:20:17,560
Speaker 1: gonna want to stick with the coach? Like when are

2549
02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:19,800
Speaker 1: we gonna like you know what I'm saying somebody when

2550
02:20:19,879 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 1: it's always got to be an example, man, you know,

2551
02:20:22,959 --> 02:20:26,480
Speaker 1: like we trend. It's a trendy. We follow the trend,

2552
02:20:26,560 --> 02:20:30,440
Speaker 1: like we wanted to where to go change it? Like

2553
02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:36,640
Speaker 1: don't it don't have to be the top tire of

2554
02:20:36,760 --> 02:20:38,920
Speaker 1: money to do it, you know what I mean. So

2555
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:41,920
Speaker 1: I think it's gotta it's gotta start with that because

2556
02:20:43,320 --> 02:20:45,280
Speaker 1: jay Z could do it, Drake could do it, they

2557
02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:47,960
Speaker 1: all could do it. But so for week, Wow, I

2558
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:49,879
Speaker 1: love the fact that you keep saying that we gotta

2559
02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:56,119
Speaker 1: take those steps. So at one point Dr Dre gave

2560
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:58,000
Speaker 1: you advice because he was going to you and your wife.

2561
02:20:59,640 --> 02:21:01,840
Speaker 1: It's like twenty years or something like twenty when he

2562
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:06,160
Speaker 1: was thinking about getting his wife. Didn't girlfriend an abortion?

2563
02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah he um. He

2564
02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:13,040
Speaker 1: just told me not to do it. He said he

2565
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:15,920
Speaker 1: didn't believe in it or an abortion. Yeah, oh no,

2566
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:20,440
Speaker 1: me neither. Yeah, I mean shop, I'm either thinking now, man,

2567
02:21:20,480 --> 02:21:23,600
Speaker 1: I have as many as possible. You know, I got

2568
02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:26,000
Speaker 1: plenty of babies I got, I got, I got five

2569
02:21:26,120 --> 02:21:29,400
Speaker 1: kids total and ship. If my wife was witted, I

2570
02:21:29,480 --> 02:21:35,039
Speaker 1: have five more, ten more. I'll keep having them much

2571
02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:41,040
Speaker 1: that they should have worsted the five nines out there? God,

2572
02:21:41,080 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 1: damn it, nins of them. How about you? You drawn

2573
02:21:47,879 --> 02:21:51,920
Speaker 1: playing something out there? I'm trying to My daughter was

2574
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:54,440
Speaker 1: just my god, what my god? Though? But that's my daughter, okay,

2575
02:21:54,840 --> 02:21:56,600
Speaker 1: so what I mean like and she got three little ones,

2576
02:21:57,440 --> 02:22:00,640
Speaker 1: so they like, that's my whole little team. God. So

2577
02:22:00,760 --> 02:22:04,879
Speaker 1: what's next for you? Man? Album? Okay, you can produce

2578
02:22:04,959 --> 02:22:10,240
Speaker 1: your own ship too, Yeah, don't okay, now some of

2579
02:22:10,320 --> 02:22:13,400
Speaker 1: that heavy listle okay, okay, now, but this one's the

2580
02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:17,280
Speaker 1: first one. Ye'all did everything, Okay, y'all both always produced

2581
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:19,280
Speaker 1: or this was something that you just learned in the

2582
02:22:19,360 --> 02:22:25,199
Speaker 1: last year that's it's a year, that's it. Maybe six months.

2583
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:30,240
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You like Kobe with the Beetobin ship. You know,

2584
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:33,960
Speaker 1: Kobe learning Beethobin in two weeks? Did yeah? Yeah, no

2585
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:40,360
Speaker 1: one else two weeks huh yeah, listening to it. He

2586
02:22:40,400 --> 02:22:44,000
Speaker 1: told himself, Kobe Bryant told me, Brian told himself Beetobin.

2587
02:22:44,879 --> 02:22:48,240
Speaker 1: He probably just he probably see he's one of those people.

2588
02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:51,320
Speaker 1: He has the propensity to be able to practice around

2589
02:22:51,400 --> 02:22:55,680
Speaker 1: the clock. I love the practice. Yeah, didn't see Kobe strue. No,

2590
02:22:56,360 --> 02:22:58,200
Speaker 1: come on, man, y'are like the only two niggers in

2591
02:22:58,240 --> 02:23:02,000
Speaker 1: the world. Michael join him another try man, man, Man,

2592
02:23:04,240 --> 02:23:06,920
Speaker 1: my heart, I don't cry like that. I never cried

2593
02:23:06,959 --> 02:23:08,520
Speaker 1: like that, but I don't want my line like I

2594
02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 1: don't want to cry. Yeah, I never cried like that,

2595
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:12,640
Speaker 1: but you know what it was. It was just something

2596
02:23:13,000 --> 02:23:15,680
Speaker 1: I just couldn't turn away because I actually this is

2597
02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:19,000
Speaker 1: my ghost right in thing. I actually did a record

2598
02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:21,879
Speaker 1: with Kobe, and I wanted to write his rhymes so bad,

2599
02:23:21,959 --> 02:23:24,160
Speaker 1: Like if you actually put up that record that he

2600
02:23:24,280 --> 02:23:28,360
Speaker 1: got that he's biting my side, Bro, he's trying to

2601
02:23:28,400 --> 02:23:30,680
Speaker 1: sound like me. Bro. Listen, I'm just telling you this

2602
02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:33,400
Speaker 1: is real. Ship. It's real ship that's white like he

2603
02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:36,640
Speaker 1: went to track Masters. I'm saying like he like bite

2604
02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:39,320
Speaker 1: me nas and like hold I forget to drink where

2605
02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:42,360
Speaker 1: he's he's um with a suit on. He's like he's

2606
02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:45,800
Speaker 1: biting my like the Iraq. But you know how I

2607
02:23:45,879 --> 02:23:48,920
Speaker 1: usually that you know, you know, back whatever. But so

2608
02:23:49,000 --> 02:23:51,400
Speaker 1: I was so, you know, wanting to write his rhyme,

2609
02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:54,320
Speaker 1: and Kobe looked at me like Kobe Bryant, I got

2610
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:57,520
Speaker 1: my own ship, was like, oh ship, So I went

2611
02:23:58,600 --> 02:24:00,480
Speaker 1: I watched this ship and then Michael Jordan comes up.

2612
02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:05,400
Speaker 1: And Michael Jordan comes up, he goes, I'm gonna be

2613
02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:08,879
Speaker 1: another criming mean for the next two years because he's

2614
02:24:08,920 --> 02:24:11,760
Speaker 1: the ugliest cry ever you ever seen. Oh Michael Jordan

2615
02:24:11,879 --> 02:24:14,840
Speaker 1: cries hugly bro Like that's an ugly crying. My dude,

2616
02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:17,680
Speaker 1: like he cries like he just like he like pieces

2617
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:22,520
Speaker 1: of ship. But yeah, but the Kobe um and it

2618
02:24:22,640 --> 02:24:25,280
Speaker 1: was it was also another thing that that struck me

2619
02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:29,080
Speaker 1: is um. He said that Mike went to see Phil

2620
02:24:29,200 --> 02:24:32,080
Speaker 1: Jackson one day. And when we went to see Phil Jackson,

2621
02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:34,480
Speaker 1: the first thing Kobe said is, you know you bring

2622
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:41,040
Speaker 1: your shoes, Like he constantly like competitive, like competitive. Did

2623
02:24:41,120 --> 02:24:43,560
Speaker 1: you feel like that with Renegade, with with eminem because

2624
02:24:43,600 --> 02:24:46,360
Speaker 1: everyone really says that this is the one time that

2625
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:49,160
Speaker 1: Jay took up took a loss with with people? Did

2626
02:24:49,360 --> 02:24:51,720
Speaker 1: did you know I feel like that about our version

2627
02:24:51,840 --> 02:24:54,600
Speaker 1: or their version, which whatever version you want. Oh, well,

2628
02:24:54,680 --> 02:24:58,280
Speaker 1: when we yeah, when we did our version, Um, we

2629
02:24:58,360 --> 02:25:05,240
Speaker 1: didn't realize that it had the potential to be that special. Yeah,

2630
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:07,959
Speaker 1: we had a lot of songs already and I think

2631
02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:11,320
Speaker 1: it's me and Marshall, so that was one of the

2632
02:25:11,480 --> 02:25:15,440
Speaker 1: same verse. Yeah that was on with you okay, but

2633
02:25:15,560 --> 02:25:19,440
Speaker 1: see me and him, we approached the beat similar, very similar,

2634
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:24,240
Speaker 1: So we attacked it the same. So take me off

2635
02:25:24,920 --> 02:25:27,120
Speaker 1: and then have Ja come in and put his verses

2636
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:30,080
Speaker 1: on there, and he attacks the beat totally different. He

2637
02:25:30,680 --> 02:25:34,120
Speaker 1: b yeah, he lays back in the pocket. Did J

2638
02:25:34,320 --> 02:25:35,959
Speaker 1: get to hear his verses? First of all, you don't

2639
02:25:35,959 --> 02:25:39,600
Speaker 1: know that, okay, okay, okay verses. And then when J

2640
02:25:39,800 --> 02:25:42,960
Speaker 1: lay his it became magic. It became it didn't sound

2641
02:25:43,040 --> 02:25:44,960
Speaker 1: like that when with me on there like to me,

2642
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:47,200
Speaker 1: to me, that's a great record, I've never kind of

2643
02:25:47,320 --> 02:25:49,800
Speaker 1: and I get slacked for saying this on this I

2644
02:25:49,879 --> 02:25:52,360
Speaker 1: think Earth came on here. I get slacked for saying this.

2645
02:25:52,480 --> 02:25:54,680
Speaker 1: I always look at the record like a great record.

2646
02:25:54,720 --> 02:25:57,800
Speaker 1: I've never really looked at like who outshine who? You

2647
02:25:57,879 --> 02:25:59,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I get that this is a

2648
02:25:59,400 --> 02:26:03,680
Speaker 1: competitive sport. Yeah, that the people. But but to me,

2649
02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I should get criticism for just

2650
02:26:06,360 --> 02:26:08,320
Speaker 1: looking at the record that saying all right, look look

2651
02:26:08,480 --> 02:26:11,160
Speaker 1: says painting for right. I just look at that art,

2652
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:13,920
Speaker 1: I said, painting for I love. It's the certain individuals

2653
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:16,840
Speaker 1: that's say that paint is perfect. Yeah, and it's certainly

2654
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:19,720
Speaker 1: gonna say the fall is perfect. It's all perspective. That's

2655
02:26:19,720 --> 02:26:21,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to me, per I just I just

2656
02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:23,200
Speaker 1: love the art. I think the way that they had,

2657
02:26:23,440 --> 02:26:25,840
Speaker 1: the way that they attacked it, they attacked it too

2658
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:29,080
Speaker 1: totally separate different ways, so it's hard to compare to

2659
02:26:29,160 --> 02:26:32,680
Speaker 1: two it. All of it almost just boils down the preference.

2660
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:35,840
Speaker 1: It's what you prefer, what style you prefer, you know

2661
02:26:35,879 --> 02:26:37,960
Speaker 1: what I mean? J did it his way. It's not

2662
02:26:38,080 --> 02:26:40,840
Speaker 1: the illest J versus you're gonna hear M did it

2663
02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:43,080
Speaker 1: his way. It's not the illest in versions you're gonna hear.

2664
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:45,800
Speaker 1: But them together as a marriage and it being on

2665
02:26:45,879 --> 02:26:50,040
Speaker 1: a blueprint to Special Man's Special. It didn't sound like

2666
02:26:50,120 --> 02:26:51,760
Speaker 1: that when it was me and Marska. You did you

2667
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:54,040
Speaker 1: think it's because Nas put it out there with Nas

2668
02:26:54,120 --> 02:26:57,480
Speaker 1: by eating He said, Immine invited you on your own hip,

2669
02:26:57,560 --> 02:27:00,920
Speaker 1: you know that something? Yeah, feeling that put people in

2670
02:27:03,080 --> 02:27:04,880
Speaker 1: because that was a classic moment, you know what I mean.

2671
02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:07,879
Speaker 1: So of course that's gone. You know what I mean.

2672
02:27:08,879 --> 02:27:10,920
Speaker 1: I love hip hop man, and I'm just thinking about

2673
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:13,120
Speaker 1: I said you was staying, you know what I mean,

2674
02:27:13,280 --> 02:27:15,960
Speaker 1: and and coined that phrase you know what I mean?

2675
02:27:16,920 --> 02:27:21,880
Speaker 1: Scam alright, bick up SCA's I love hip hop man? Yeah,

2676
02:27:25,320 --> 02:27:27,640
Speaker 1: so what what what makes you? What makes you keep

2677
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:31,640
Speaker 1: going though? Like I mean, listen, I'm gonna be honest.

2678
02:27:32,360 --> 02:27:34,680
Speaker 1: I got tired of this game at one point. At

2679
02:27:34,720 --> 02:27:36,360
Speaker 1: one point I didn't want to look at the mic,

2680
02:27:36,440 --> 02:27:38,920
Speaker 1: I didn't want to look at the stage. I just

2681
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:41,720
Speaker 1: wanted to get so far. I really had lost it,

2682
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:43,600
Speaker 1: Like it took a lot for me to come back

2683
02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:46,840
Speaker 1: and get And I remember Ferrell Imember with me calling

2684
02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:48,920
Speaker 1: Farrell and Frells like I don't do hip hop no

2685
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:50,800
Speaker 1: more and me being like, what the are you talking?

2686
02:27:50,800 --> 02:27:52,720
Speaker 1: About motherfucker, are you gonna give me a beat? And

2687
02:27:52,840 --> 02:27:56,199
Speaker 1: I like I had didn't. I didn't know that sometimes

2688
02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:58,160
Speaker 1: you get out of the zone like I didn't know,

2689
02:27:58,360 --> 02:28:01,160
Speaker 1: like sometimes you just need to going to your own world.

2690
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:05,480
Speaker 1: Have you ever felt like that? Um Nah? I think

2691
02:28:05,560 --> 02:28:08,280
Speaker 1: with me when I was a little bit of love

2692
02:28:08,360 --> 02:28:11,160
Speaker 1: for it, I never lost any love for it when

2693
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:14,080
Speaker 1: I when I got sober, it just was a reset.

2694
02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:16,320
Speaker 1: But like you had a girl cheat on you before?

2695
02:28:16,959 --> 02:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Have I had a girl cheating before? Like you know, like,

2696
02:28:19,440 --> 02:28:22,600
Speaker 1: let me what's growing up? Yep in high school? But

2697
02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:24,920
Speaker 1: come on hip hop and cheating on you? You never

2698
02:28:25,040 --> 02:28:27,280
Speaker 1: felt bad? You don't remember how the hip hop cheat

2699
02:28:27,320 --> 02:28:32,480
Speaker 1: on me? What do you mean? We gave six nine respect.

2700
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:39,280
Speaker 1: He's an affraternity regardless if you like it or not. Man,

2701
02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:41,560
Speaker 1: you know what, bro that got even the same thing though,

2702
02:28:41,720 --> 02:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah he's infraternity. He is a rapper. Like I always

2703
02:28:46,040 --> 02:28:49,840
Speaker 1: felt like whenever I did something, I figured out to

2704
02:28:49,959 --> 02:28:52,959
Speaker 1: make it just my place in hip hop. I carved

2705
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:55,240
Speaker 1: out my own place, you know what I mean? So

2706
02:28:55,320 --> 02:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I never felt I never felt like, um, I was

2707
02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:00,600
Speaker 1: on the outside of something that was happening. I just

2708
02:29:00,680 --> 02:29:02,720
Speaker 1: somehow I figured out the way to just survive all

2709
02:29:02,760 --> 02:29:06,520
Speaker 1: the different all the different like ways the hip hop

2710
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:08,760
Speaker 1: evolved in all the different spaces that it was in.

2711
02:29:08,920 --> 02:29:11,040
Speaker 1: Whenever I needed to release some music, I found a

2712
02:29:11,080 --> 02:29:13,760
Speaker 1: way to just make it exists with whatever was happening

2713
02:29:13,840 --> 02:29:16,560
Speaker 1: at the time, and that that kind of chases a

2714
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:18,320
Speaker 1: little bit fun to me, you know. But when I

2715
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:20,440
Speaker 1: got sober, it was like I was starting all over

2716
02:29:20,560 --> 02:29:23,760
Speaker 1: because everything that I did drunk, it was like a

2717
02:29:23,840 --> 02:29:25,840
Speaker 1: thing of the past to me, because my approach to

2718
02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:28,000
Speaker 1: the music was totally different, because it was like, now

2719
02:29:28,040 --> 02:29:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm clicking on our cylinders. So it just gave me

2720
02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:33,080
Speaker 1: a whole new reason to just kind of start over

2721
02:29:33,160 --> 02:29:35,240
Speaker 1: and build my brand from a different Plus I had

2722
02:29:35,240 --> 02:29:37,040
Speaker 1: a better understanding of how to build a brand at

2723
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:40,320
Speaker 1: that point too. So first it felt like this would

2724
02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:45,240
Speaker 1: never happen. But I feel like, oh, slaughter House, it

2725
02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:48,480
Speaker 1: might be happening. Another slaughter House happen. Why do you

2726
02:29:48,520 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 1: feel like that, that's not that's not the card. That

2727
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:01,520
Speaker 1: no way, that's never what happened, That had never happened.

2728
02:30:01,600 --> 02:30:05,120
Speaker 1: That's not possible. Nobody, nobody in Slaughterhouse could be replaced. Bro.

2729
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, like if you if you replace like why

2730
02:30:09,360 --> 02:30:15,720
Speaker 1: being Cordor, I mean Corday. It look if you if

2731
02:30:15,720 --> 02:30:18,280
Speaker 1: you put Corday in there instead of somebody else, then

2732
02:30:18,320 --> 02:30:25,240
Speaker 1: it's a whole different group. Florida huh house a little okay,

2733
02:30:26,800 --> 02:30:32,680
Speaker 1: different about I'm walking around I'm talking about But man, listen,

2734
02:30:32,760 --> 02:30:42,440
Speaker 1: man man man hip hop is so beautiful. Man. So

2735
02:30:42,640 --> 02:30:44,920
Speaker 1: so what's what's the what's the next transition? Like after this?

2736
02:30:45,520 --> 02:30:48,400
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Is it? Getting the movies? Is it?

2737
02:30:48,560 --> 02:30:50,960
Speaker 1: What is it? I never had a desire to do

2738
02:30:51,120 --> 02:30:53,800
Speaker 1: movies ever. I never had a desire to act for

2739
02:30:53,879 --> 02:30:55,560
Speaker 1: some reason. I don't know why, because that seems like

2740
02:30:55,640 --> 02:31:00,160
Speaker 1: the obvious next step for most raptors to me. I'm

2741
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:04,000
Speaker 1: having fun in the production round. Um, that's what Chuck

2742
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:06,360
Speaker 1: D said. I think Chuck D say, yeah, yeah, I

2743
02:31:06,480 --> 02:31:08,680
Speaker 1: have no desire to But but I'm you know, I don't.

2744
02:31:08,760 --> 02:31:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't close the door on the because I never know.

2745
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:17,840
Speaker 1: I never know what I'm gonna wake up and want

2746
02:31:17,879 --> 02:31:21,080
Speaker 1: to do. But whatever that is, you know, if I

2747
02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:23,160
Speaker 1: decided to take it on, man, I just put my

2748
02:31:23,240 --> 02:31:25,000
Speaker 1: best foot forward and put into work and then just

2749
02:31:25,080 --> 02:31:28,040
Speaker 1: try to get good at it. But right now I

2750
02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:31,480
Speaker 1: know that I'm not much of a multitasker, so um,

2751
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,400
Speaker 1: once I'm done making albums, my passion is to put

2752
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:39,119
Speaker 1: it into the next generation, the next group of artists

2753
02:31:39,160 --> 02:31:42,400
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be working with under heaven. You know

2754
02:31:42,440 --> 02:31:45,119
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's that's that's my company, Heaving Studios.

2755
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:48,560
Speaker 1: I'll see that. Ashley Surrell. Ashley Surrell, she's on my album.

2756
02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:51,480
Speaker 1: I'll heard her on my album. She's like nine songs

2757
02:31:51,560 --> 02:31:56,520
Speaker 1: in man, phenomenal. Bro It's phenomenal, And I'm excited for her.

2758
02:31:57,560 --> 02:31:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm excited to the possibilities of what the ship is

2759
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:02,240
Speaker 1: gonna say, Like when it's finished, I'm producing on it

2760
02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:05,240
Speaker 1: as well. I'm excited about that. You know what I'm saying.

2761
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:08,400
Speaker 1: He's producing on it. The course, my man b Jones

2762
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:11,120
Speaker 1: is producing on it. Who's another young producer coming up

2763
02:32:11,320 --> 02:32:14,520
Speaker 1: phenomenon And you know, like, I want to be able

2764
02:32:14,560 --> 02:32:16,800
Speaker 1: to give her all of my attention that she needs

2765
02:32:16,920 --> 02:32:20,879
Speaker 1: without you know, making making my own albums and trying

2766
02:32:20,920 --> 02:32:23,200
Speaker 1: to focus on her at the same time. Yeah, I

2767
02:32:23,240 --> 02:32:24,960
Speaker 1: can't do that. I can't do that. How about you?

2768
02:32:25,080 --> 02:32:28,120
Speaker 1: What are you thinking about acting on anything else? I

2769
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:30,840
Speaker 1: think the only right now for me is like doing.

2770
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I never really put my fund into the solo realm,

2771
02:32:34,040 --> 02:32:35,960
Speaker 1: so that's what my mother does. But I'm gonna change

2772
02:32:36,160 --> 02:32:38,440
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I want people to look at I

2773
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:41,200
Speaker 1: feel like what I'm about to do with this record

2774
02:32:41,320 --> 02:32:44,400
Speaker 1: is like make people change their whole perspective on restarting

2775
02:32:44,480 --> 02:32:46,760
Speaker 1: and age all of that. I'm taking all of that

2776
02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:48,640
Speaker 1: out the way. So you've got the spikes on two

2777
02:32:49,400 --> 02:32:53,320
Speaker 1: taking it. I'm literally like you, like you tell them

2778
02:32:53,320 --> 02:32:58,240
Speaker 1: the warriors to come out, come out, you know, you know,

2779
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:00,840
Speaker 1: you know. I don't want it to be looked at.

2780
02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Is one thing like that since people mixing up, I

2781
02:33:04,040 --> 02:33:06,680
Speaker 1: feel like Drake sing and wrapping all that ship, like,

2782
02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:09,320
Speaker 1: but you don't do it. You're gonna do it right.

2783
02:33:09,360 --> 02:33:12,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are legendary, man. Um. I want

2784
02:33:12,920 --> 02:33:14,879
Speaker 1: to thank both of your brothers man for coming out

2785
02:33:14,959 --> 02:33:18,080
Speaker 1: here man just kicking hip hop man, because I still

2786
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:20,760
Speaker 1: see it, Like I said always, I really looked at

2787
02:33:20,800 --> 02:33:23,200
Speaker 1: all your interviews and I really and I was like, damn,

2788
02:33:23,240 --> 02:33:26,440
Speaker 1: this is a great run man, And I really want

2789
02:33:26,480 --> 02:33:27,920
Speaker 1: to say you deserve it. You know what I'm saying,

2790
02:33:27,959 --> 02:33:30,680
Speaker 1: You deserve it because um, you're doing it the right way.

2791
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:33,879
Speaker 1: You being the purist and you're making grown up fucking

2792
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:35,959
Speaker 1: raps like you know what I'm saying, you're making age

2793
02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:38,760
Speaker 1: appropriate music, like you ain't sitting there talking about you

2794
02:33:38,800 --> 02:33:41,480
Speaker 1: know what, like you know what I'm saying, Like that's

2795
02:33:41,480 --> 02:33:45,160
Speaker 1: when he's eighteen. Goddamn it. Like we can't keep doing that. So, um,

2796
02:33:45,520 --> 02:33:46,879
Speaker 1: you know, I want to thank you, man, I want

2797
02:33:46,879 --> 02:33:49,280
Speaker 1: to appreciate. But we got a couple more minutes, right,

2798
02:33:50,200 --> 02:33:53,200
Speaker 1: we got a good woman. So anything else you we

2799
02:33:53,280 --> 02:33:55,600
Speaker 1: want to say, you know what, a man to add

2800
02:33:55,640 --> 02:33:59,680
Speaker 1: on what we were saying about. Um about helping the

2801
02:33:59,800 --> 02:34:03,480
Speaker 1: young is developed. That's another thing, like our studio, like

2802
02:34:03,560 --> 02:34:05,800
Speaker 1: having studios, the studio, we want to turn that ship

2803
02:34:05,879 --> 02:34:08,920
Speaker 1: into like a hub, you know, like if you just

2804
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:11,640
Speaker 1: think of let's use Deaf Jam for an example. Right,

2805
02:34:11,680 --> 02:34:15,000
Speaker 1: Paul is over there, like all of the left right, yeah,

2806
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:17,040
Speaker 1: he just left, but all of the artists on that

2807
02:34:17,240 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 1: roster that is just kind of sitting. Imagine if it

2808
02:34:20,959 --> 02:34:23,200
Speaker 1: was just like something we could do where we cut

2809
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:24,760
Speaker 1: some type of deal with the label, they could just

2810
02:34:24,760 --> 02:34:28,119
Speaker 1: send him because I know Proof's son to sign. Phenomenal

2811
02:34:28,720 --> 02:34:33,080
Speaker 1: phenomenal young artists people like that come through young rock

2812
02:34:33,879 --> 02:34:37,040
Speaker 1: we helped develop them, make sure that they get the

2813
02:34:37,080 --> 02:34:40,440
Speaker 1: records that they need, and by the time we've done

2814
02:34:40,520 --> 02:34:42,800
Speaker 1: with them, you know, they're totally efficient out here to

2815
02:34:42,879 --> 02:34:44,280
Speaker 1: be able to grow, you know what I mean, Like,

2816
02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:46,240
Speaker 1: it's exactly what you said you want to do. We

2817
02:34:46,360 --> 02:34:47,480
Speaker 1: want to do the same thing. That's why I was

2818
02:34:47,520 --> 02:34:54,440
Speaker 1: saying we should work together. Yeah, yeah, well I was

2819
02:34:54,480 --> 02:34:56,240
Speaker 1: saying anything else you want to do. I mean, that's

2820
02:34:56,280 --> 02:34:59,560
Speaker 1: pretty That's that's where we are. I think that's our narrative.

2821
02:34:59,640 --> 02:35:02,000
Speaker 1: That's what you trying to like as a team. That's

2822
02:35:02,040 --> 02:35:04,240
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. It's like when you think

2823
02:35:04,240 --> 02:35:07,560
Speaker 1: of Jimmy jam and Terry looks to me that it's

2824
02:35:07,600 --> 02:35:10,320
Speaker 1: that new version of that I need to beat, nigga.

2825
02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:15,440
Speaker 1: Look at the look at the eyes I need to beat.

2826
02:35:15,480 --> 02:35:22,240
Speaker 1: They could bring me out of the driver, I know,

2827
02:35:22,320 --> 02:35:25,160
Speaker 1: if y'all know, man, our show was about celebrating the

2828
02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:28,440
Speaker 1: people's lives and their careers while they are alive. The

2829
02:35:28,560 --> 02:35:31,160
Speaker 1: fact that so many people would say, you know, this

2830
02:35:31,320 --> 02:35:33,600
Speaker 1: is great, these guys are great. When we passed away, man,

2831
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:35,560
Speaker 1: we want to do that now. Like I just seemed

2832
02:35:35,560 --> 02:35:37,720
Speaker 1: the image of pop smoke and it's great. You know,

2833
02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:39,920
Speaker 1: big up to the people in Paris who participated in

2834
02:35:40,080 --> 02:35:43,320
Speaker 1: making a hologram image of pop smoke. But I tell

2835
02:35:43,320 --> 02:35:45,320
Speaker 1: you what would be ill, like, you know, start doing

2836
02:35:45,360 --> 02:35:48,240
Speaker 1: hologram images of people who are alive. Like you know

2837
02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:50,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like like a ship Nica feel good

2838
02:35:50,760 --> 02:35:53,000
Speaker 1: while he here? You know what I'm saying, Like ship

2839
02:35:53,160 --> 02:35:56,480
Speaker 1: Nigga Drake deserve a holograms sucking put your teeth, fucking

2840
02:35:56,520 --> 02:35:58,879
Speaker 1: voice sucking, Rick Ross fucking you know what I'm saying,

2841
02:35:58,920 --> 02:36:01,800
Speaker 1: Boston rhymes, fat your You know what I'm saying. Everyone

2842
02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:05,360
Speaker 1: like making a thing, don't make it a thing for

2843
02:36:05,440 --> 02:36:07,840
Speaker 1: people that's dead. Making for a thing for people that's alive.

2844
02:36:07,920 --> 02:36:09,840
Speaker 1: And that's no. This to the people who actually did that,

2845
02:36:09,879 --> 02:36:11,720
Speaker 1: because I thought that was couraging. I thought it was dope,

2846
02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:15,120
Speaker 1: But I also think it's backwards because I want to

2847
02:36:15,200 --> 02:36:17,520
Speaker 1: show people love where they're alive. This way, it's a

2848
02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:20,560
Speaker 1: celebration when they're gone, because we was already it's a

2849
02:36:20,600 --> 02:36:23,959
Speaker 1: continued celebration. Guess what, we was already celebrating. Your monkey

2850
02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:29,400
Speaker 1: asks when you was here, you understand said just do

2851
02:36:29,520 --> 02:36:36,000
Speaker 1: some drops. Thanks for joining us for another episode of

2852
02:36:36,080 --> 02:36:38,560
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