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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson and Matt it is

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Speaker 1: time for our penultimate mock draft. A lot of them,

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Speaker 1: We've done a lot of them. Now we're getting down

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Speaker 1: to uh brass tacks here and who left? And the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are on the clock at the pitch right ahead

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Speaker 1: of them. The Dolphins at eighteen took Naja Harris. I

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Speaker 1: think that's possible. Nine Team Washington takes Zizolari. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why they do that. I don't know either,

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Speaker 1: but fair enough. At twenty, Chicago takes Caleb Farley. Interesting one.

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Speaker 1: The Colts take Samuel caused me it doesn't break my heart. No. Two.

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Speaker 1: The Titans stake Quitty Pay. I think that makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty three. The Jets take Creed Humphrey. M That

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Speaker 1: woul kind of be a Joe Douglass thing to do.

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Speaker 1: So we're up at twenty four. The top guys available

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Speaker 1: Greg Newsome, I would be fine with that. Elijah vera Tucker.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't do it for me. Rashan Bateman, Travis a

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Speaker 1: t N jam And Davis, Joseph a Size, Avian Collins,

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Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins, Jason Noa, uh Morig, Gregory Russo, Terris Marshall.

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Speaker 1: So some there's some options there. We have trade offers.

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Speaker 1: I would say, as I changed my mind on this

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Speaker 1: all the time, but if Harris is gone, I would

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Speaker 1: Exavin Collins and I think Jenkins over the other two backs.

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Speaker 1: I don't if you agree with that if I had

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Speaker 1: to pick there. Here's my problem with that theory is

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Speaker 1: that is what you deal with later, then you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get it. You're not gonna get Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: I hear you, Which is why we have to entertain

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Speaker 1: these trade back I think so. Yeah. The Raiders are

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Speaker 1: offering pick and their second round draft pick for pick

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Speaker 1: twenty four and pick two fifty four. That's hard to

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Speaker 1: pass up. So I don't know the forty eight gets

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Speaker 1: us a running back, but that's good enough for me

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Speaker 1: to take that chance. That's yeah, that's too. Really good

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Speaker 1: picks this year on pick next year makes me very happy. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's one offer. The Bills are offering pick thirty and

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Speaker 1: the third round draft pick for pick twenty four. They

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Speaker 1: could come get a d n they could, you know,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think you're not. I think Williams and

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Speaker 1: still be there. Twenty eight, we're still getting back and

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Speaker 1: we're getting a third round pick next year. What was

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I lost count thirty and the round draft

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Speaker 1: pick not a great that's not great. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that's even fair value. Uh. The Chargers are offering

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Speaker 1: pick pick seventy seven and the second round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: That's the same deal of Chargers. The only difference is

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Speaker 1: you're getting forty seven instead and gets a little earlier,

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Speaker 1: and you're rooting against the Chargers as opposed to the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Have the charge of my better year. But that's not

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Speaker 1: enough for me a change my tune. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: You want to do that one? Yeah, okay, we'll accept that.

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Speaker 1: So we're getting pick seven seventy seven and the Chargers

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Speaker 1: second round draft pick for pick. So we don't talk

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Speaker 1: about this enough, but I think most people recognize we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be happy with what happened here. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we won't. That doesn't break much that that doesn't blow

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Speaker 1: me away. But I think what you have to remember

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Speaker 1: is when we're having this conversation next year, probably we're

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Speaker 1: saying the Steelers have their first, their second, their third

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Speaker 1: a bud comp pick, and the Chargers second. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's five picks next year in the top one for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty nice. Okay, so here's what happened. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the running backs went at forty three for San Francisco

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Speaker 1: took Quinn Miners at forty four. Kelvin Joseph went to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys at forty five. The Jaguars took Javonte Williams

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Speaker 1: at forty six. Ronnie Perkins, the edge rusher out of Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: went to the Patriots. I assume A ten has already

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Speaker 1: gone to a t N has long gone as well.

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Speaker 1: first round with that pick thirty one. Interesting, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean they have extra picks. I mean they could if

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Speaker 1: they fell in love with them. Okay, no matter what,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he would have been there anyway.

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Speaker 1: So forty to me, forty five is about as low

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Speaker 1: I know each other well enough that when we moved

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Speaker 1: five chance of getting William. Yeah, you know, so here's

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Speaker 1: a couple of backs I don't hate in third and

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Speaker 1: fourth round, all of a sudden them, but doing more

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Speaker 1: and more research on them, it's not ideal. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get other stuff. So here's the problem. We know

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Speaker 1: Creed Humphreys gone and Mine and Miners has gone. Landon

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Speaker 1: Dickerson is still available. It's hard to make that your

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Speaker 1: first pick, knowing is I mean the offensive tackles. You're

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Speaker 1: looking at Dylan Raddin's, Liam Eikenberg, Jalen Mayfield, Spencer Brown, Walker,

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Speaker 1: Little Brady Christensen, Stone Forth, Scythe James Hudson. There's some

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Speaker 1: guys there that I would take Dickerson over all those,

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Speaker 1: especially because he just named ten names. Uh running backs,

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Speaker 1: top guy obviously Michael Carter, Kennet, Game, Will Trace Sermon

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Speaker 1: or Monday Stevenson. We're not taking a running back here

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Speaker 1: in the second round. Uh. Tight end firemouth is gone

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Speaker 1: as well. Uh yeah, so you're looking at Hunter Long,

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Speaker 1: Reverend Jordan, Tommy Tremble. Corner inside linebacker might be my choice. Yeah, Uh,

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Speaker 1: cornerback Okay, Eric Stokes, Sante Samuel Jr. Aaron Robinson. All

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Speaker 1: three of those are Elijah Molden. So there's there's four

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Speaker 1: guys there. Robert Roshell is available. There's some guys there

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Speaker 1: we picked pretty soon again though too. Yeah, we have

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Speaker 1: forty seven and fifty five. I mean, we could probably

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Speaker 1: go Dickerson corner linebacker, Baron Browning, Jabriel Cox, Pete Werner,

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Speaker 1: Nick Bolton, Dylan Moses, Cameron mcgron, had Chas Sarratt, Garrett Wallow,

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Speaker 1: Money Rice. There's guys. Would be the only one I'd

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Speaker 1: what the Steelers want. I think Dickerson. Yeah, Dickerson has

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Speaker 1: to be the picket within that. Yeah, okay, so we

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Speaker 1: made Dickerson the pick and the picture rate after us

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Speaker 1: White Davis goes to the Raiders, Peyton Turner Goes to

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Sante Samuel Jr. To the Dolphins. Not for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's off the Jabril Cox goes to Washington,

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Speaker 1: Tray Smith to the Bears, Eric Stokes goes to the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Run del Moore goes at fifty four to the Colts,

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Speaker 1: and we're back up here at fifty five. The tackles

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Speaker 1: mold tackles have not been touched. Um, you mentioned Elijah

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Speaker 1: Molden was there for the Elijah Moulden is there. Aaron

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Speaker 1: Robinson is there though as well, like Molden better. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think he's a better football player. I mean, Robinson

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Speaker 1: looks better, walking the doors, better trades. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Molden played slow. I think Molden's are starting slot from

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Speaker 1: day one is an upgrade over the slots you've had.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's just a great player. And that's

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Speaker 1: like the We lost out on some things, but that's

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Speaker 1: our bonus prize for trading back in my opinion. Okay, Eric,

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Speaker 1: Elijah Molden is to pick, and we're rolling here. We're

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Speaker 1: back up at seventy seven. The Broncos are on the phone.

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Speaker 1: They want to give us one four team one fifty

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Speaker 1: two and the third round draft pick for seventy seven

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Speaker 1: and two fifty four. It doesn't sound bad. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to get that third next year. But Cleveland is on

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Speaker 1: the phone as well. We're rejecting. We don't like them.

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Speaker 1: I think already made our trade back. Yeah, so so

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Speaker 1: let's avoid all trades from here on out. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: here the guys available at seventy seven Leam Mikelberg just went,

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Speaker 1: as did Dylan Moses, Marii Rodgers, U, Joe try On,

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Speaker 1: Harrell so Tyson Campbell at cornerback. We don't need a

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Speaker 1: corner We're out of the cornerback market. So offensive tack

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Speaker 1: are you looking at? Jalen Mayfield, Spencer Brown, Walker Little.

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Speaker 1: I'll be fine with all those. Brady Christensen, Deante Smith, Jackson, Carminstone, Forsyth,

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Speaker 1: James Hudson. Remember we pick again at eighty seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I say, where do you get one of those running backs?

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Speaker 1: You got? All the running backs are still their Carter Gainwell,

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Speaker 1: Sermon from Monday, Stevenson. I think Gainwell is a better

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Speaker 1: prospect than Sermon, But Game B is on a Steeler. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like Michael Carter. I don't know if I like

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Speaker 1: him this high, but we're well that's I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you take if you like game Well, then you're taking

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Speaker 1: a smaller back than Carter Well. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like I like gaine Well more than Sermon or Carter.

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Speaker 1: If I'm just putting grades on them generically, I just

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Speaker 1: don't think that's what the Steelers need. Yeah, um G,

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Speaker 1: I kind of like Khalil Herbert. I kind of like

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Speaker 1: Round Tree. How about Tommy Tremble there, I don't have

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Speaker 1: XT back. Yeah, so then you fix your run game presumably. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not like unless you can trade for a back

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Speaker 1: or if somebody gets cut loose and there's ways of

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Speaker 1: doing this, or your draft one early next year. Um

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Speaker 1: doesn't help you this year. No, it doesn't. But overall,

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Speaker 1: the top top players available this according to the Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Network rankings, Michael Carter, Jaylen Mayfield, Nick Bolton, still available, interesting,

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Speaker 1: Josh Meyer, Spencer Brown, Hunter, Long, Tyson Campbell, Jordan's Smith,

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Speaker 1: Kellen mond Walker, Little Nico Collins, Jamar Johnson, Brady Christensen,

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Speaker 1: Robert Rochelle. Um. Well, I think I take Trumbull after

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Speaker 1: we haven't done inside linebacker, it's Bolton, and then you're

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Speaker 1: all the way down the camera and we're grown. Bolton's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Bolton's pretty good. Bolton is a younger, faster

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Speaker 1: version of Vince Williams. Yes. Hm, we do have another

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Speaker 1: pick coming up at eighty seven. There's a lot of tackles.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of tackles. Bolton or Tremble. I

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Speaker 1: think Bolton is a better prospect. I think Bolton is

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Speaker 1: a better player. Let's do it. Okay, he probably starts

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Speaker 1: from day one too, good chance. Okay, we're up at

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Speaker 1: eighty seven and the Buccaneers are on the phone. We're

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Speaker 1: not doing any more trades down right, but they're offering

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Speaker 1: ninety fourth round draft pick for eight seven and two

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Speaker 1: fifty four. Just okay. So we're back up here again

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Speaker 1: at eight seven, and let's take a look at those

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Speaker 1: offensive tackles to see what's there. Michael Carter is still available.

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Speaker 1: That what's our next? We go down to one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is our tackle or bust probably yea. And some

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Speaker 1: of them have been taken, um since we last picked.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Brown went, Brady Christensen went, Jalen Mayfield went, Walker

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Speaker 1: Little went. So it's Jackson, Carmen, Deante smith Stone, Forsyth,

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Speaker 1: James Hudson, Jalen Moore. Um. I like Jaylen Moore a lot.

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Speaker 1: Side note, and we haven't talked about him much. Um

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Speaker 1: Carmen would not be my pick there. Yeah, I kind

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Speaker 1: of like Forsyth. There, I was thinking the same thing.

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Speaker 1: The tall pure tackle right or left. Probably, I'm absolutely

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Speaker 1: fine with that pick. That's a good value for probably

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Speaker 1: a starter. Sooner than later, it's doing we're on down

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Speaker 1: the now we now is when you have to start

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Speaker 1: looking at running back. We can't ignore that much. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the top guys available now or Ramundi, Stevenson, I

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Speaker 1: don't like him, Khalio Herbert, I do like him, Jamar Jefferson,

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Speaker 1: m Chuba Hubbard. I don't think he fits the system.

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Speaker 1: Killing Hill he's interesting to me. Elijah Mitchell too early,

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Speaker 1: Jared Patterson, No, yeah, it's trying up here real quick.

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Speaker 1: Javian Hawkins, No, Larry round Tree the way too early

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Speaker 1: for that. I think round Tree is an underrated guy,

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Speaker 1: but it's little. I would take Herbert. Let's just take

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Speaker 1: a look here and see if there's another. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: the top guys available called Trask, Tony Fields, Drew Dalman,

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Speaker 1: Tyree Gillespie, safety at a Missouri, Ambrey Thomas, the cornerback

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Speaker 1: Cartwolves over all, Right, let's do it. Avery Williams is

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Speaker 1: those running backs again. Okay, Rickie Boyd, Chris Evans, I

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Speaker 1: late late round pick. Gara Doaks from Cincinnati's big power

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Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be a Steeler, you know somehow

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Speaker 1: special teams. I think he is. Actually he might be

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Speaker 1: he said, I don't mind some of these really late

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Speaker 1: We didn't. We didn't take any of those. Didn't take

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure like m. Kiddie's gone and safety,

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Speaker 1: He has to be absolutely star. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: he's considered a pretty smart dude. No, that's a great

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Speaker 1: why you look around, you don't. You don't pigeonhole yourself

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Speaker 1: You know. Uh, we got Khalil Herbert. That's our top

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. If you told me right now

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Speaker 1: not more, uh, in the first two days of the

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Speaker 1: draft next year. Can we run the football better with

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Speaker 1: that group? If Dickerson is healthy in a stud, yes,

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Speaker 1: If he's on the sideline, probably not. It's a little

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Speaker 1: scary putting a lot of eggs in his basket. And

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't even have broke my heart to take in

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Speaker 1: a fifth round guard center. You know, if one we

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Speaker 1: liked in addition to Dickerson and just keep adding to

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Speaker 1: that mix didn't work out that way, don't forget we

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Speaker 1: would pick for the future. I'm not sure you and

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Speaker 1: I if we were, if we were made, you know,

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Speaker 1: in charge of the world said Steelers can trade all

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Speaker 1: their picks, all their eight selections for what we just

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Speaker 1: got them as a haul. I think i'd say, go

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Speaker 1: fish and try again. I think so. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: like that, I really liked the first four picks. I

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Speaker 1: don't like that we didn't get a running back earlier,

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Speaker 1: but we got stuff. I mean, I think we did

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Speaker 1: well the drafted. I love everything about that draft except

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Speaker 1: for the lack of running backs. And Dickerson worries me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have no reason to be worried about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he could go very early in the

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Speaker 1: draft and have a Hall of Fame like career, then

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Speaker 1: you win. If he's heard all the time and you don't, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a rough draft. Yeah, well this is our rough

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Speaker 1: draft of the draft, our rough draft. We got one more,

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Speaker 1: one more to do two days from now. We gotta

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Speaker 1: I think, I think when we do our draft on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: no trade backs, no trade backs. Last one, no trade backs.

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Speaker 1: Who we have taken have we not traded back? There?

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Speaker 1: That's the question. I can't ever taken Zavin from what

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Speaker 1: I remember it was. Here's what here's what was available

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Speaker 1: at twenty four. They the Chargers moved up to take

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Speaker 1: greg Newsome. Who would have who would have been a consideration?

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Speaker 1: John Davis went at twenty five to the Browns or

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I'm sorry, Joseph as I went at twenty

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Speaker 1: six to the Browns. Elijah Vera Tucker goes to the Ravens. Boy,

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Speaker 1: they'd like that man. Terris Marshall goes to the Saints,

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Speaker 1: Zavin Collins goes to the Packers. Trevor moigru I keep

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Speaker 1: calling Trevor's Travan goes to the Bills. Travis a t

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Speaker 1: n to the Ravens. Gregory Russo goes at thirty two

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Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay uh top of the second round. Was

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Speaker 1: Oa goes at thirty three to the Jaguars. The Jets

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Speaker 1: take Firemouth thirty five. Tevin Jenkins falls all the way

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Speaker 1: to thirty five. He's the name to me, it was

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Speaker 1: between Tevin Jenkins and Avin Collins. So if you would

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Speaker 1: have taken Collins, you're not taking Bolton Um. If you

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Speaker 1: take Jenkins, you're not taking the Florida dude, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: And not that there was like a great running back there,

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Speaker 1: and and maybe that's a sermon. Pick one of those

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Speaker 1: two could be a sermon type pic. I like Collins

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Speaker 1: a lot. Collins to me, is a lot better prospect

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers than Bolton. I agree, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. As much as I like Jenkins, I think

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Zaven and Stone fun names then Bolton

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Speaker 1: and Jenkins. It doesn't work out exactly that way because

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Speaker 1: I think probably that's acacia, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We took Stone later than Bolton, so it's not apples

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Speaker 1: to apples. But I mean, if you I think Davin

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Speaker 1: Collins is a real difference maker to that defense. Ideally,

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Speaker 1: I would rather have Harris Harris And what if it

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Speaker 1: was Harrison Bolton. It's not bad we're Harrison Bolton. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who would our second round pick of Ben if we

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Speaker 1: took Harris in the first. If we had taken Harris

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Speaker 1: in the first, well, we came up at fifty five

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Speaker 1: and Mold was available because we didn't trade back. Let's

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Speaker 1: say what it worked out. You take Harrison the first,

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Speaker 1: so you still had to Lee McNeil. We can presume

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Speaker 1: that Dickerson wouldn't have gone because we took him right

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Speaker 1: before our pick. Right, he's still there. Um so Nasrael

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Speaker 1: Deane Baron Browning Osanrique, Tommy togy Id, Dylan Raddin's, Davian Nixon,

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Speaker 1: Carlos Basham, Javon Holland to Faile, I'm on Ross st Brown,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Robinson, Milton Williams, Pete Werner. We probably take Dickerson, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I say, sure, would be nice to bring Harrison Dickerson

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Speaker 1: off in National Championship Bama Powerhouse, bring him north, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's possible. I think that's I think it's

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Speaker 1: highly possible. I think that absolutely could happen. I would

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Speaker 1: be you talk about jump start in your running game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice way to do it. That's the best

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Speaker 1: way to do it in my opinion. He's run behind

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Speaker 1: him a little bit. Yes, And I think you're with

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Speaker 1: me on this. If I said right, I'll give you right.

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Speaker 1: This set on Monday afternoon, twenty four and fifty five

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Speaker 1: for Harrison Dickerson, do you say so? And then seven

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Speaker 1: we're looking at we took Stone Forsyth, Michael Carter is available,

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Speaker 1: Hafanga the safety be looking at linebackers. I'd be looking

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Speaker 1: at slots. I'm looking. I might even drift away from

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Speaker 1: O line if I already had Dickerson and Harris and

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Speaker 1: might be looking for something on defense. Yeah, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: to see who was still available, as a lot of tackles.

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Speaker 1: Kendrick Green was still available at that s bust. If

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Speaker 1: we went tackle in the second round, you take Kendrick

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Speaker 1: Green in the third. I have no problem to Kendrick

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Speaker 1: Green the third. There's actually some centers I like to

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Speaker 1: Hanz and Manette and some of these guys. I think

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Speaker 1: that there's some It's not center or bust as much

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Speaker 1: as it is running back or bust from me, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think the centers, I think there's five or six

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Speaker 1: that could come in to start for you, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: or some of them that can convert from guard to

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Speaker 1: center to yeah. Right, So there's some interesting later round

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Speaker 1: centers to me. But still I would love to have

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Speaker 1: Harrison Dickerson at the start. That would be a nice

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Speaker 1: way to start your draft. Do you agree? If that's

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Speaker 1: the way it went, assuming there's not one tackle left

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Speaker 1: in the third round, I would lean towards defense probably

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Speaker 1: with that third pick. Yeah, it's gotta be a cornerback then,

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Speaker 1: or an off ball preferbably probably the cornerback. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean Molden would he wouldn't be at the probably not,

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Speaker 1: but you could get a I don't know, Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: just looking to see who's available there. Maybe you get

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Speaker 1: the Arkansas State kid or you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of them. Maybe you'd take a Darius Washington there and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: you're a slot something like that, or a trait c outside,

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Speaker 1: you know, the numbers guy. But they'll definitely be linebackers there.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll definitely be tackles there. We'll put it

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Speaker 1: this way. Robert Rochelle was still a bit. That's what

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Speaker 1: I was saying. They were making our third round pick.

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Speaker 1: Probably would have been again if I said, I'd give

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Speaker 1: you the Steers first three picks for Harris Dickerson. Rochelle, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's fixing my really does a number on

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Speaker 1: my run game, gives me a high upside corner. I

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Speaker 1: probably will get a tackle in the next round that

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Speaker 1: I like. Cool. Yeah, absolutely. And the other thing to

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Speaker 1: remember about this, with so many offensive tackles available in

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Speaker 1: this draft, it wouldn't surprise me to see some guys

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Speaker 1: cut loose after the draft is over. Some vets, some

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Speaker 1: vets that are pricing now that won't be then yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, maybe they're not. They're not studs or anything

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Speaker 1: like their mid level guys are that have been you know,

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Speaker 1: three or four year starters, but they're making too much money.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you move on from what we get this

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Speaker 1: young cheap guy. Yeah, yeah, we didn't think he'd be there.

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Speaker 1: We grabbed them and now the vet's gone. Yeah, easily

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Speaker 1: could have interesting though always good. That that's why we

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Speaker 1: do this, and you go with a lot of different

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Speaker 1: directions with this just to see what happens. And that,

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Speaker 1: my friends, is what happens if you pass on the

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Speaker 1: running back. And it wasn't horrible. I mean the team

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Speaker 1: got better. I mean we add a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't know who we're handing the ball too.

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Speaker 1: It's very Yeah, it's a big question mark. We got

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Speaker 1: the riddler in the backfield, six guys to camp, including

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Speaker 1: what's already in the house, and you hope one of

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Speaker 1: them grabs a job and like Aaron Jones, yeah absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but that's gonna do it for this segment. So for

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Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson, for Jacob Brecht on site keeping

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Speaker 1: us on the air, I'm Dale Lay. We thank you

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