1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Are you leave the I you wanna way back home? 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Either way, we want to be there. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: time and a terminol and gayy a. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: We want to send you off instide. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it. 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine? Melcorn? Do you need 8 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you need 9 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: to ride? 10 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 11 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Do your need you ride? 12 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Ride? Do you need. 13 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride? 14 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: This is Chris Fairbanks and this. 15 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: Is Karen Kilgarriff. 16 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: Hello, Hi boys, I am very happy to see you. 17 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: Happy to see you as well, Chris. 18 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: What'd you do today? 19 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: Gird? 20 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Well from. 21 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: I have gourd. 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: I was just thinking because one of my leftover I 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: think I have. I don't think I have long COVID, 24 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: but I know I have. I got the worst COVID 25 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: of the two that people are getting right now. One's 26 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: short and one is taking a while. 27 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: Yes, so mine's. 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: Taking a while. So I still have some of my taste. 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Buds aren't working in the way where coffee tastes very 30 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: bad to me in a way it never has in 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: my life. I drink black coffee in the morning and 32 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: I can't. It's all of the good parts of drinking 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: black coffee have been removed, and it just tastes like hot, 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: gross water. 35 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: That is all I have. My friend Lance has lost 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: a bunch of weight. He hasn't been able to taste. 37 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: And it's worse than that. He can't taste much for 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: like a year and a half now, and he's like 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: a skinny guy. 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Oh okay. 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 2: And he said bacon and thing like meat, like savory 43 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: things that he used to always eat taste awful or 44 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: have no taste at all to him. 45 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: Well, and that's the that happened to me. Okay. 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Wait, So the point why I say gurd because the 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: point was what was the point? 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: I just I thought that was a phrase like egads 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: or something else from him a Kafee cartoon. I didn't. 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know what that word meant. 51 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh I was saying it was like I was saying, 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: oh God, but I changed the word. But there is 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: actually a medical condition called GIRD which has something to 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: do with like acid reflux. 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, which is. 56 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: What made me laugh about it. But tell your friend lance. 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: This is important because my sister sent me this TikTok 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: that basically, you if you get someone else to flick 59 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: you on the back of the head, it is a 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: proven way that people are getting their sense of taste back. 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: No, I swear that sounds like it's something I would say, 62 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: and you would say, there's no way. Stop making things. 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: I would say, Chris, stop believing what everything you read on. 64 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: Tikbook, although I will add be careful when you do that. 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Don't be making a goofy face because it'll stick that way. 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: That's right, but you will have your take. You can 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: have so much bacon. 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: What is it that that is insane to me? That's 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: it's really weird. 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: But a doctor is the person explaining it, and it's 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: something about that's the I don't know. I don't know 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: at all, And I was about to make I love 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: to make up the reason, but it's what I think, 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: but it's not the truth. 75 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: Well, there's subtle things like that the trigger massive changes, 76 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: like the time Jimmy Pardo said he had Bell's palsy 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: for like a year, like the half of his face 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: went numb. Yeah, like he had had a stroke and 79 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: he got it from a fan blowing on him. Huh, 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't that sound like something I'm making It sounded 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: like something he was making up, and I'm like, seriously, 82 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: and he said, yes, oftentimes a light wind on your 83 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: face is what triggers Bell's pulses. 84 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: I thought it was a virus. 85 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: I swear that's what he said. If the word virus, 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: you also have to have the virus. I maybe am 87 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: leaving out that. 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: Then a very Please don't go to the Grand Canyon. 89 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Please don't go to any outlooks or outcroppings or lighthouses 90 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: because the wind will give you Bell's palsy. Well, but 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: if your friend is really suffering with this, like my 92 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: sister sent me this video immediately, and I was like, 93 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to wait and just see if I can 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: kind of yet my bad eating in control, because I 95 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: have been drinking coffee almost like against my will in 96 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: the morning, and then I just have no appetite. And 97 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: when I do go, oh, I think I'm actually hungry 98 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: because I can't tell. My eating is so disordered that 99 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: I eat cyclically and habitually as opposed to my body 100 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: feels hungry. Now, I feed it and then I wait 101 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: until it's hungry again. It doesn't work like that for me. 102 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: So without having taste, like, there's no satisfaction. There's no like, ooh, 103 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pop one of those in my mouth. It's 104 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: just like it's just a job. You have to choose 105 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: some weird thing and it's all texture. 106 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: Oh so I'm sorry that sounds awful. 107 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: It's weird, but I'm not. I don't mind it. I 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: will say this. It's better for me and the way 109 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: that I do things. 110 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: But the other night, I was like, well, I'm hardly 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: eating anything, so I'm gonna eat I get ice cream. 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: That was my logic because sweet things you can taste, right. 113 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: My friend told me he can taste like candies and 114 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: things like that. 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: That for me, the taste, it's the only way I 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: can describe it. Is it The sensation is like because 117 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I know what it tastes like. I eat the same 118 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: thing over and over, and I like very specific things. 119 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: So if I'm eating Ben and Jerry's Chubby Hubby, which 120 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: is what I was eating, I know what I'm supposed 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: to be tasting. So it's very difficult for me to 122 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: know whether or not I'm tasting or not because I 123 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: can remember and the texture and da da dad. 124 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: For me, when I had this in my mouth, it 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: was like, God, I think that says freezer burned. This 127 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: seems stale. There's something wrong with this ice cream. And 128 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: I kept doing that, like bite after bite, until I 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: finally went, you can't actually taste it. You're just experiencing 130 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: the texture. And you don't like the texture without the taste, 131 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: without the flavor. 132 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: That is twilight zone scary to me. 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: It's very strange. 134 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: My other friend Kurt that has had he also had 135 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: in a bit to taste and he's gained weight because 136 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: he was chasing. He was chasing flavor. He was out 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: there flavor chasing, and I relate. Yeah, So he said 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: he had gained weight because of this inability to taste. 139 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: He was kind of going around and like maybe this 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: will work, Maybe this will work. 141 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, and I feel for him. I'm glad 142 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: I just got this eyeball rash that's jumping to the 143 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: other eye. I mean, that's that's all I really have 144 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 2: to rag about. 145 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: And you can console yourself with a nice slice of 146 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: pizza or I was eating nachos last night and I'm like, 147 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: these are the worst nachos I've ever had, And then 148 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, these are actually they're good. 149 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: I've loved them before. 150 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because I'm I'm only experiencing crunch bean softness, 151 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: salsa like wetness, Like it's it's such a weird thing. 152 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: It's it's so hard to explain. 153 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: I would be eating chips and pico de gayo, or 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: I would be eating texture explosions. 155 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Yes, I've been doing a lot of tortilla chips by 156 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: themselves because feels stuff on it. Yeah, just so because 157 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: I think salt is coming through. But I was explaining 158 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: to my sister that it's like the flavor is just 159 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: around the corner, Like I know the idea of what 160 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be tasting, and it's just kind of 161 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: right over there, but I can't get to it. 162 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't know how long how long the 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: road is before that corner. 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the sidewalk could be it could be hundreds of 165 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: miles long, this sidewalk. 166 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: Well, just so you know, both my friends. Sometimes it 167 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: is gradually coming back, but literally more than a year. God, yeah, 168 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: they that was back. No vaccine, you know, Delta Delta spirit, right. 169 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: That's what happened to my sister's friend Adrian. She was 170 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: one of the very first people that we knew that 171 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: got COVID in quarantine. 172 00:08:59,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: Like month two. 173 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: We were all scared shitless. We thought she was gonna die, 174 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: We thought something horrible was gonna happen. 175 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: She was scared shitless. 176 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: But the only good thing was she and her son 177 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: got it like he got it because he went camping 178 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: with his friends, walked in the door and then got 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: a text and it said I have COVID, so that 180 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: means you have COVID, and so he's like, uh, I 181 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: have COVID, which means you have COVID to her. So 182 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: then they kind of got to quarantine together. 183 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: Which is cute. Yeah, but he did not lose his 184 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: taste and she did. 185 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: So every night he'd be like, hey, what should we 186 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: get and be all excited because they had nothing else 187 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: to do. They were just kind of trapped in the 188 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: house and one of the main distractions was completely off 189 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: the table, and she said she would do things like, oh, 190 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: I'll just eat yogurt. That'll be a good way to 191 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: get protein. And it was so disgusting, Wow, to have 192 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: flavorless like that texture with no flavor. 193 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just hilarious. The thing, I really would hate 194 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: teat a banana if I couldn't taste it, because texture wise, 195 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: bananas are the worst, just pretty much full of mush. 196 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: You think of someone else, and when your kids opening, 197 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: do you like seafood and they open their mouth and 198 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: there's banana in there. I'm still traumatized by that. Plus, 199 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: bananas have veins on them that peel up there. Bananas 200 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: are really just my sister hates them. They trigger the 201 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: gag reflex. 202 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: What about the kids in grammar school that would have 203 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: like a medium brown banana in their lunch bag that 204 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: would make everything else smell like banana in the like 205 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: cloak room. 206 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that. I felt bad for those kids. 207 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: They obviously had a bumpy bus ride to school, they. 208 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: Had an abusive father used to beat up the bananas. 209 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: At least it's not you kid just punching a bunch 210 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: of bananas. Yeah, I had. 211 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: I just had four bananas go bad because every time 212 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I'd look at them, I'd be like, well, you could 213 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: fry them up, you could do this, you could make 214 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: a banana bread. I'm just like, no, it won't work. 215 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I buy bananas just to watch them die. Yeah, often, 216 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: often I do that. Yeah, they really complete a kitchen counter. 217 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: Just esthetically. I like the look of bananas, and then 218 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: I never get around to eating them. 219 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Well, you know what it is when I buy and 220 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: I always buy four bananas, like, oh. 221 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: Never more than me two, three or four. 222 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: It has to be three or four. It can't be six. 223 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: That's a waste. 224 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: But in my mind when I'm buying them, I'm like 225 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: for when I'm like on the go, like if I 226 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: just need to grab it and go where It's like, 227 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: when is the last time that happened in this COVID 228 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: reality that we live, And I'm not going anywhere. 229 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: Not, I am just happy to see you, because who 230 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: the hell puts a banana in their pocket when they're 231 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: going out the door. 232 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: It's gonna bend in half and mush. 233 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: They're sensitive. 234 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: Today, I felt like I've been inactive, So I went 235 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: on a bike ride to the base of the m 236 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: this trail on the mountain next to my town and 237 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: my college is there, and I went around college. I 238 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: tried to go into the library to find proof that 239 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: the Missoulian newspaper repeatedly put my address in the names 240 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: of my parents on multiple photos of me dressed like 241 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: a crossing guard. I know it's there, but these be 242 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: shift librarians. They didn't know about microfiche. I thought it 243 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: was easy to scroll through old newspapers, but you got 244 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: to go down to the basement, get some film, go 245 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: to another level, get on this projector thing. Anyway, I 246 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: did not find the proof, but I'm going to find it. 247 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know why, because microfiche is like it's like 248 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: asking for a real to reel. 249 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: Tape they have. Well, that's why libraries are amazing. Though 250 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: it's still dewey decimal system. It's still the same books 251 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: of old newspapers from the twenties. Like I did look 252 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: around at stuff. It is kind of cool. But I 253 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: spent a long time in the library today. It was 254 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: just empty. But I it just all these memories of college, 255 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: and I just had this feeling that, like, I wish 256 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: I could go to college again with the confidence I 257 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: have now and with access to a computer. I used 258 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: to go to that library and use their Tandy computers 259 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: black screen, the green processor, yes, and I would try 260 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: and finish my papers before I didn't have a disc. 261 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: I was ill prepared and not organized, and they would 262 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: like turn off the power and I'd lose papers. That 263 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: would happen multiple times, and I'd have to go the 264 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: next day and start over. I spent so much time 265 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: in that library because it was the only place when 266 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: I was living in the dorms that people weren't partying 267 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: and drinking forties in the hallway. I just realized I 268 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: really did today. I realized I really did try hard 269 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: in college. And how did it turn out? I just 270 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: was bad at that writing papers because I didn't have access. 271 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 2: It's just all these memories came flooding back. 272 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: But did you actually graduate from college? 273 00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: I did, indeed. 274 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh well then that turned out good? 275 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: It did. I mean, that's the thing I've never told you. 276 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: I've never shown my frame diploma to anyone. It's I want. 277 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: To recally, nobody cares. 278 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just immediately left town and started doing stand 279 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: up with my Bachelor of Arts, you know, draw emphasis 280 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: and drawing and painting and art history. I've never used it. Yeah, 281 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know. I just it was cool to 282 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: be on campus. That's all I'm saying. I have not 283 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: visited my school since I. 284 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Grew problem with you being on campus with that mustache, though, 285 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: is that time has passed? Yes, you aren't a college 286 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: student and you're also loitering in the library with that mustache. 287 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: Has did anything come? 288 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: Everyone there was older than me? That was the other thing. 289 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: It's like, is this summertime is when non traditional students go. 290 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Maybe it was mostly empty there, but I promise you 291 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: all the people I made full eye contact with today 292 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: with my mustache were my age. Do you think I 293 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: should shave it now? I feel like I'm creepy. 294 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: Well, you're creepy on a college campus. 295 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: I am creepy. 296 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: I think in the rest of life, You're fine. It's 297 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: very it's hip that people are having those that. Also, 298 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: you just started licking at a bunch. Stop saying just 299 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: for me, yeah, just for this experience purposes of Zoom. 300 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: Maybe I can say for. 301 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: This zoom meeting that we're having. 302 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: And you're right. I was just going up to a 303 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: lot of strangers and saying, I used to go to 304 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: school here. Do you work for a lady named Chris? 305 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: She's my neighbor. She used to plant these plants. I 306 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: guess she's retired now that that was a young person 307 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: that I freaked out you're right. I did do it. 308 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: I did do it, damn it. 309 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 310 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: I almost bought a University of Montana sweatshirt. I wanted 311 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: to represent. It was just fun to experience that. But 312 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: I will not be able to walk tomorrow because I 313 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: did run up this trail and my legs are not 314 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: going to work in the morning. 315 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: Well, you know, you can take to leave. 316 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: That's the great part about modern life is just go 317 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: ahead and take some medicine. 318 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: I think I will. I think I will perfect. Yeah, 319 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: I'll be fine. You're right. Why am I getting worried 320 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: about the future of soreness? 321 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: Do you want to tell everybody about your golf tournament 322 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: that you on the last episode got kind of you tried, 323 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: you tried to fit it in and we wouldn't. 324 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: Really no, I. 325 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: Really really forced it. I really did. You know, we 326 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: don't have to talk about it. It was very fun. 327 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: It was beautiful. I was up in Big Sky, Montana. 328 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: A lot of old football players that from the seventies. 329 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know who they were and. 330 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: Were they still big? 331 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: Were they meaty yes, like muscular guys in their sixties? Hot? Yes? 332 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: And they I mean they were sweet. I did stand 333 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: up for all of them. That sounds kind of scary. 334 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: And for a lot of the sponsors before before the tournament, 335 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: there was a night of stand up and uh yeah, 336 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: And so there was a guy that got offended with 337 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: some COVID joke I have about what's more Christian then 338 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: letting other people die for your sins is the punchline, 339 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: And he was like boo, he said boo. And I 340 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: showed up the next day and he's he was the guy. 341 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: He was the boss of these plumbers that I golfed 342 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: with the next day, that exact guy that heckled. 343 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: Wait, was he on your golf team? 344 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: Yes, and he had a big cigar and I and 345 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: he seemed like a conservative guy. And then and then 346 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: by the end of the game, we are lifting each 347 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: other up, We're hugging. I've never done so many fist pounds. 348 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: We hugged, We jumped up and down in a circle 349 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: hug when we won, and uh, it was really good 350 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: for me. I think to bond. Those were real men. 351 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: They have boiler's license. 352 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: And now do you think that guy came around on 353 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: your joke or do you think he just the love 354 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: of the sport and the fact that you guys one 355 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: covered over the joke. 356 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: I know how to turn it off and just be around. Yeah, 357 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: you know, I'm pretty serious when I'm golfing. And I 358 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: was just nice to these guys. I killed them with 359 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: kindness and then they were my friends by the end. 360 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: Nice. 361 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: It was a nice exercise. And then in the end 362 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: they put all the scores on the board and we 363 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: were by far the lowest score. We totally won. 364 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: So what did you win? 365 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: Five hundred dollars some clothes for yourself. We split amongst 366 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: the group. You know, it was a fun It's like 367 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: a They did use the word celebrity before my name 368 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: and the winners, these four guys and celebrity Chris Fairbanks, 369 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I think it's funny after 370 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: all these years, that's what I needed to hear. And 371 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: and then yeah, we there was just a lot of 372 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: at each tea box, at each hole, there was they 373 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: were giving out stuff shirts and raincoats and hats. 374 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: And oh like swag like stuff Po's logos on it. 375 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so I got a lot of fun 376 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: I gos, a lot of swag bags, nice, and it 377 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: was just, uh, yeah, it was really great. It was 378 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: really good for me and I was happy that I 379 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: was not intimidated by four guys that were way better. 380 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: They just didn't make any mistakes. They're very good at golfing, 381 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: and it made me better. Usually I am afraid that 382 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: all get nervous and get in my head and then 383 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: not golf as well. But I did golf better than 384 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: I usually do. 385 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: So they raised you up. 386 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's that confidence thing that I wish I 387 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: had when I was back in school. I think I 388 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: want to go back to college. I think I'm going 389 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 2: to die. I know, I shaved off the mustache and 390 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: I just I'm like, and I brought my skateboard and 391 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, all. 392 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: You guys, this is Chris Fairbanks thinking where You're like, 393 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: it's better then, so I'm going to twist myself around, 394 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: just try to recapture. 395 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 3: Then it's not better. Then you've just decided that it's not. 396 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm yeah, right. The minute I would decide to 397 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: do that, I would panic and back out. 398 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: You would hate it. 399 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: So imagine going to fucking school now, are you crazy? 400 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: It's not fun. 401 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm just wishing I could have done it differently then, 402 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: not to do it over again. But all those writing classes, 403 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: all the creative writing classes, all the long papers I wrote, 404 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: I didn't. I kind of just phoned it in and 405 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: did the minimum in it. And then when I graduated, 406 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 2: I was like and started doing stand up. I'm like, oh, 407 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: I should have become a writer. I like writing, and 408 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize it back then because I was 409 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: a kid. You're a kid when you're in college. 410 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Right, But if you had realized it back then, then 411 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: you would have never done stand up. Like all those 412 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: things have to happen that, Like it's like there has 413 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: to be a floor, so there can be a ceiling, 414 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: so like, it wouldn't have meant that you would have 415 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: become a writer, right, because if you had been like 416 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: taking writing classes and gotten all serious about that, you 417 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: would have rebelled as Chris Fairbanks would have, and you 418 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: would have gone on and become a construction worker or whatever. 419 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Like it's almost like you had to phone it in 420 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: and then go off and be a stand up to 421 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: walk away from it. 422 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 2: I'm more comparing it with the fact that I was 423 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: focused there as an art major, and you had to 424 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: spend time in the studio, you had to finish your paintings, 425 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: and I took that all seriously, and I came out 426 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: of college with full confidence as an artist, not as 427 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: someone that confidently can do it as a business and 428 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: ask people for money that is worth my time, but 429 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: the actual doing the art. I wondered if I had 430 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: spent more time writing, if I had come out of 431 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 2: college like I'm a writer, I know how to do 432 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 2: that because I didn't realize it. I still haven't realized it, 433 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. But you're right, maybe I would 434 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: have rebelled and become some plumb and golfer, well also 435 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: a golfer. 436 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: It reminds me of that the last conversation we had 437 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: with Andrew Mashan, where it's like it is this a simulation? 438 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. So should I have done this? Should 439 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I have done that? It doesn't matter. 440 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: It just doesn't. 441 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: So it's like the past that we all have is 442 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: what it was, and no one had. Like you're really 443 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: good at pretending everybody else has it great and you 444 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: have it bad and then going from there, so like 445 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: you do that all your thinking and what I've heard 446 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: you say over the years is that kind of thing 447 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: where you romanticize what is impossible to recapture. So the 448 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: next thing I see you doing is like you come 449 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: back home, go to La Community College. You're taking a 450 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: writing class and you fucking hate the teacher and that's 451 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: your new thing. And then you just wasted three hundred 452 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: dollars however much it costs, and now you're mad and 453 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: telling yourself you're not a writer, Like you just have 454 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: to go with the flow in terms of that experience 455 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: was what it was because I had the same thing 456 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: where I know what I did in college, which was 457 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: essentially fuck around and then get kicked out, was a waste. 458 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: It was a waste of my parents' money. 459 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: Somebody else could have taken my spot, somebody that gave 460 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: a shit whatever, and that was that was wasteful of 461 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: me and bad of me. And I lived in that 462 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: reality of I'm bad because I did that for so 463 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: long until I finally one day was like, now I 464 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: am a legitimate TV writer, so I think I can 465 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: let go of whatever got me here, Like it's no 466 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: longer a bad thing because it got me to where 467 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: I am now. 468 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: And like you're a you're. 469 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: A person who gets paid to bullshit like this into 470 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: a microphone, Like that's a pretty good place to land. 471 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: I realize it every day, and it's also why I 472 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: will continue to live in Los Angeles and do this 473 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: with you. I love it. I do and I but 474 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: I do it on stage, and of course, and I wonder. 475 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: I often wonder, Hey, could I live in Montana and 476 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: still be a comic. I wouldn't be practicing enough, so 477 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 2: I can't do it. But that is I'm just getting 478 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: nostalgic more than anything. I'm not having regrets necessarily. I 479 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: just went through campus and I was like, it brought 480 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: back good memories. I didn't want to make it sound 481 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: like I was like, oh, I blew it. That's not 482 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: what I was feeling. I just started talking that way 483 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: right now. Oh, okay, I actually had a nice experience. 484 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: I can only go on what you're saying. Yeah, I know. 485 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: I can only take the facts as I'm hearing them. 486 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a different life that I was revisiting. 487 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: Like I've been asked by my old friend is like 488 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: the media arts head of that department. He asked me 489 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 2: to teach a photoshop class a few years back, and 490 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I could do that. I could go 491 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: teach a class and I saw how much work had 492 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 2: to go into it and how little it and I 493 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: was like, ah, maybe maybe I'll just keep doing what 494 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing. 495 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: That is a very fun exercise, though of like, could 496 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: I like for a while when I thought in twenty 497 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: sixteen when my house was in forthclosure and I was like, 498 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: I think I'm just going to put my dogs in 499 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: the car and drive to Peddlum and never look back. 500 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: And then I was like, God, that was very long ago. 501 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: No it was not. 502 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: And that was when you had all the tax like 503 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: you were ignoring tax stuff, and so I was I 504 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: and we needed someone to hold her hand through all 505 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: that tap stuff. That was man who really horrifying. 506 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: But at that time, well, but the point I was 507 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: making is I was doing that and thinking, Okay, I 508 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: can just go live at my dad's house, like I 509 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: know he won't kick me out. I have a place 510 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: I could actually go and my family is all up there, 511 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: and that actually would be nice. 512 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: It'd be nice to be. 513 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: Around people who know me, who who know who me 514 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: as who I really am, and not this kind of 515 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: like pretend city girl act I've been doing for the 516 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: past twenty five years. I'm like, I'm in La and 517 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: I don't give it shit about anything. And then my 518 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: sister's like shut up and get in the car. So 519 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: like it's very comforting to be at home. And then 520 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I could work at Starbucks. They give 521 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: you insurance, like there's you know, there's pluses here. But 522 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: I truly realized that's pretty much the only job I 523 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: could get, or some favor job of like a relative. 524 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm not qualified in any other 525 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: city besides Los Angeles and parts of New York. But like, 526 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: I can't make a living, a meaningful living for myself 527 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: anywhere else because of the fuckery that I've chosen to 528 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: completely go full bore on in this town. And that's 529 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of like, well, that's then I better just hang 530 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: out and see if I can solve any of these 531 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: problems and fucking see what I can do about this. 532 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad I've made the decisions I made, 533 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: But I wow, I was on campus. I also walked 534 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: into a room. I wanted to look at the pool 535 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: tables in there because I think my dad and stepmom 536 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: should be playing pool. They're both good at it. And 537 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: I just ran into my good friend that was installing 538 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: sign like vinyl on the wall, and years ago he 539 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: asked me if I wanted to start a sign company 540 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 2: with him. And my other friend Andrew was in there, 541 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: and that was sort of like seeing me and they're 542 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: they were putting up stuff on the wall that they 543 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: had designed, and I had liked that kind of work. 544 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: That's what I was doing when I left, And you know, 545 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: it's it was just kind of cool to see that. 546 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: But it's not regrets, just looking at a version of 547 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: my life that I was leading for a while and 548 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: I could still be doing it. It's more just interesting. 549 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: It's almost like the Gwyneth Paltrow movie Sliding Doors, where 550 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: it's just stepped that way. 551 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: I can't believe I didn't bring up Sliding Doors, your favorite. 552 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: Film, where that's the life you would have been living. 553 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: I mean, like making signs. I love that idea because 554 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: it's a trade. It's always needed. It involves the arts, 555 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: but you get paid, you don't have to rely on 556 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: like it's a consistent trade, real job, and yet you 557 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: get to be artistic. We have a friend, my friend 558 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: Amy O'Neil, who lives in Wisconsin. She for a while 559 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: because she's a she's also a fine artist, and she 560 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: for a while got a making the signs at a 561 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: like very boutique fancy butcher shop. 562 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 563 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: So she would like hand paint the little like Ribbi 564 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: five ninety nine whatever, even. 565 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: Just permanent paintings on a chalkboard and then they can 566 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: write the specials that yeah, or she. 567 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: Would do I think she was doing the little cards 568 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: that would go into the like a refrigerator case, and 569 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: and then she also did stuff on the wall, and 570 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: I was like, that is the greatest feeling of this 571 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: is almost like back to the Renaissance when artists would 572 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: get paid because their art is useful and people would 573 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: be like, yes, I want my shit to look good. 574 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: Make it look good, as opposed to like these days 575 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: where you can print up anything. Somebody hand painting a sign, you're. 576 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: Right, And that is always kind of what I wanted 577 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: to do and why I get excited when someone really 578 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: passionately does it at a Trader Joe's and there's little drawings. 579 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: Yehere there's gords and they'd draw a pumpkin and like 580 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: someone actually put time in all the artwork. I love 581 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: doing that. That's why I did in Austin and then 582 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 2: painted some signs that ultimately fell off buildings and crushed cars. 583 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: But it's not my fault. It gets that windy. 584 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: You know, you didn't make it a sign. You painted this. 585 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: I painted the sign, but it was I chose the 586 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: heavy wood. It was four by sixteen feet to four 587 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: x eight pieces of treated plywood. I had to hoist 588 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: it up there with a pulley system. And then it 589 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: was at a pet store. I maybe already told this story. 590 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure I did, but I spent a long time 591 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: painting all these dogs. 592 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: It seems familiar, but it is some thing. Sorry, just 593 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: a p question before you go into this is why 594 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: Thought's name would they get the painter to be the engineer. 595 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: That seems like a mistake that you should have called 596 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: at some point, Hey, I can't do this right. 597 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: I first had just painted their windows a few Christmases, 598 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, just some dogs wearing some bows. And then 599 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: they said we need a new sign, and I said 600 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: I can do that. So I bought the way. I 601 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: said I can do all that for you. They did. 602 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: Someone did help me and they were They helped me 603 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: install it, but we used the rotten a frame that 604 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: was the previous signs. It was probably would from the 605 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: turn of the centry. It was just old rotten wood 606 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: that gave way in the wind, and the sign I 607 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: made to no fault of mine crushed a car quite 608 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: legitimately crushed on and shattered the windows, and there was 609 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: just one of the dogheads kind of came off the sign. 610 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: I cut out the top of the schnauzer's head. It 611 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: just kind of came off, and that it was just 612 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: crushed and the little top of the dog head was 613 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: in the parking lot and I drove by and they 614 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: weren't open, and I saw it and I saw the car, 615 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: and I call it was so awful. They were so 616 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: sweet about it. I thank god I was not held liable. 617 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, thank god, but I did put it 618 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: up there with metal. Anyway, It's so funny that was. 619 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, I'm like going to my first open mics. 620 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: It's just funny that I took that turn. And today 621 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: seeing my friends doing that making those signs, it was. 622 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: It was really this has been an unbelievable Chris Fairbanks 623 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Retrospective episode. 624 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: I just like, I feel like one. I feel like 625 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: lately and I don't. You don't have to agree, but 626 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: you can I feel like lately, I've been interrupting you 627 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: more than ever. You'll start saying something and I get 628 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: so excited, like it used to with improv to tell 629 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: a joke that I'll jump in when you're actually making 630 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: a pretty good point and I've dunk and I'm like, 631 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: god damn. Or you're in the middle of your joke 632 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: and I've noticed that. And I got a message from 633 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: someone that was sweetly worded, and they said, I notice 634 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: that's been happening. 635 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: Yes, it's something like a telegram. 636 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: It's the person that called me a twap. But I 637 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: now take their advice and some of the some of 638 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: their criticism, and we have a friendly and forth. It's 639 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: actually someone that I look to for guidance. Now, ok, 640 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: this person that called me a twat, I'm kidding. That's 641 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: a handful of people. I read the messages, you know, 642 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: but I have been doing that, and I'm sorry I've 643 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: been interrupting you. Like that's okay. One on one like this, 644 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: we have a rhythm. But sometimes yeah, there's a guest 645 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: and you and I haven't said anything for a while. 646 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: I tredsingly blurred out you you panic, Yeah, you're in 647 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: a nice conversation. With each other about women's rights, and 648 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: I'll be like, asolve just fucking say a dad joke, 649 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: and it's been happening and I prior to I can't 650 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: blame COVID. I've just been I'm gonna I'm just watching it, okay. 651 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: And also the other thing is like I just now 652 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: did I've been hijacking with my stories. 653 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: Listen, let me let me respond, please, will you talk? Well, 654 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: first of all, I was just kidding about that because 655 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: we have to talk about something, and I truly haven't 656 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: been anywhere, and you are in a complete leader and 657 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: city doing stuff. 658 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: So I did not mind any of that. I was 659 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: just giving you the biz. 660 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I didn't I did. It didn't 661 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: seem like serious business. It seemed more like the monkey variety. 662 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: It was totally monkey business. Yeah. I mean, that's the. 663 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: Thing I'm used to as a female comic. It's a 664 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: very very common thing. And I think it's because male 665 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: comics do that to each other all the time and 666 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: don't give a shit, And so it's like a vibe 667 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: thing that I think when you aren't talking and other 668 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: people are talking, you get almost you get like a 669 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: little panic of like am I disappearing. 670 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: I have to be in this, you know what I mean. 671 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: That's the sense I have. 672 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that it's I don't get it as 673 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: a negative. I don't think you don't care, like I 674 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: know that you're a great guy, a good person, good 675 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: at comedy, blah blah blah. 676 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: So to me, I just feel like it's I get it. 677 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Where like my version of that because I just was 678 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: raised like interrupting was like a very big deal in 679 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: our household, and I know in talking to other people 680 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: and especially since I've been podcasting, And I'm not saying 681 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't interrupt, I absolutely do, but I'll do it 682 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: sometimes just because I know if I don't, I won't 683 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: get in here. Like I feel like Andrew Machan was 684 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: doing that because I think you and I were having 685 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: so much fun on that last episode with Andrew Machan 686 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: but also with each other. 687 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: Get it excited. 688 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it's fun when you talk to a person who 689 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: gives you fun ideas and then you're like, oh, listen 690 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: to what you just made me think of? 691 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: Is what is the vibe I get? 692 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 2: And in a minute we're going to be onto another topic, 693 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 2: and I have to say it now. And I'm sorry, 694 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: but I'm going to interrupt because in a second and 695 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: then if it falls flat, oh man, not only have 696 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: I interrupted, but I really deflate at the moment. 697 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: My thing is that you the thing that you do 698 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: that it makes me laugh, but I usually will I 699 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: will interrupt you if you start doing it. Is when 700 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: you you do your joke and then people have the 701 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: response that they have, and then you keep talking through 702 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: it and you start explaining why this was a mistake, 703 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: and you're going down and you verbally go down a 704 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: shame spiral. And I usually will cut you off on 705 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: one of those because I'm like, it doesn't need to 706 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: be that big of a dea. Yeah, we don't mean, like, 707 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: but that's an a mistake. But I guess that's how 708 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: I feel, and that's why I'm a bad person. 709 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: And you say, oh god commenting on it, God, I. 710 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: Have to do some forensic analysis of crime that I've. 711 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: You don't though, because this is it's because of Zoom. 712 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: You in the car. 713 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: It goes a different way because we're in We are 714 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: in each other's company and so we get the rhythm 715 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: is on, but Zoom sucks. 716 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: Shit, it does, and it will continue too for a while, 717 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: but I have to everyone that wants us to be 718 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: back in the car riffing with passer buys on bikes 719 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: and going talking about buildings. You can't see. We would 720 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: have gotten someone sick this month, Karen around. Yeah, it's 721 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: still happening, and uh, you know. 722 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: It's happening just as strongly, if not worse than it's 723 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: then happening in the past. It's just the people aren't 724 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: being hospitalized as badly on this go round. 725 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is. 726 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: But also what. 727 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: If we get in the car and somebody gets fucking 728 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: monkey pocks, Like that's the new thing where I'm just like, 729 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: you got to be kidding me with monkey pops. 730 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: I haven't looked into it yet. I don't know much 731 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: about the monkey pox. 732 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: Monkey pox is for some people it's spread through sexual intercourse, 733 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: but then also it's now spread through like if you 734 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: touch someone that has the sores or their clothing. There's 735 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: all kinds of it's expanding. 736 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 2: That's why they just have you seen pictures of it? 737 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: Is that what's on my eyes? I have monkey pocks 738 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: on my eyes. 739 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 3: If you had monkey pops, it wouldn't just be on 740 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 3: your eyes. 741 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 2: It would be a Yeah, No, that's just just my eyes. 742 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: And I've had this before when I would get strap 743 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: throat and chronic infection. You know, it's inflammation. It's a 744 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 2: reactive you know. Sometimes it's my joints, other times it's 745 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: eye bumps. 746 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: And so you know what it is. 747 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: I guess. But it did immediately when, like you, I 748 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: was like starting to feel sick and I was just 749 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 2: eating to make sure I still could taste. But that's 750 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: right when these eye bumps started coming. And I'm sorry 751 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: I keep saying, iye bumps, that's real. Gross. It's just 752 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 2: a reddish, a bit of a it's a little rash 753 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: around my eyes. 754 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: It's no baker real, it's an eye rash. But you 755 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: don't that's a concern. Yeah, And if you thought it before, 756 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: then you know. 757 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 2: What it is. I have had it in the past. Yes, 758 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 2: that's good. 759 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 3: That's very good news. 760 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: You don't want like a new patch of something in 761 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: this monkey pox era. 762 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't have in this era and in my life 763 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: room for new rashes, new eye ailments, nope, ialments aal Oh, 764 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: my gosh, I was meaning to talk to you about 765 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: this because I was just looking. It turns out I 766 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: am slightly, even though we're just talking about it, saying, 767 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: no big deal, who cares? This is a simulation. I 768 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: do like the web telescope photos of different galaxies. Okay, 769 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: it did excite me, and I do think there's aliens, 770 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: but I don't care. I don't think I'll ever get 771 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: to meet one. 772 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe you already have. 773 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I have. Maybe they kissed me on the 774 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: eyes and gave me a spacely rash and now they're 775 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 2: taking over. But you on Twitter re tweeted a video 776 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: of my friend here in Missoula. He's not even my friend. 777 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: He is a Missoula person that has been a viral 778 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 2: YouTube person since the beginning. 779 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 3: Oh, he is a Missoula celebrity. 780 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: He is, and he started VidCon and my friend is 781 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 2: CEO of VIDCN Colin, and my good friend Andy Chemis 782 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: is their photographer. VIDCN is a Missoula based thing that 783 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: is huge. They have it in San Diego at the 784 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 2: Convention Center, and I just it was such is that videos? 785 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 2: What's thatpps? 786 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 3: What is it? 787 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: Old? I it is a celebration of people, Like if 788 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: we went there, we probably wouldn't know anything and there'd 789 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: be a line out the door. For some Twitch video 790 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 2: game famous kid or TikTok or it is like influencer 791 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: based like everything. But what we've our little bubble of 792 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 2: live performance and I don't think they have podcasting at 793 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: it as far as I know, maybe they do. I 794 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: don't know much. 795 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: About it, but I know that Hank Green has a 796 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: podcast because I interacted with him long ago when our 797 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: podcast when My Favorite Murder first started and was popular, 798 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: and so whatever he said to me, I can't remember 799 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: what the interaction was. It was very minor, but people 800 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: got super excited that we talked to each other, like 801 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: our listeners who also loved him. 802 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 3: They always loved that one. 803 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, when something combines where it's like two things I like. 804 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: But I didn't know who he was because I am 805 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: old and only pay attention to to British procedurals, right, 806 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: But then started paying attention and he's so smart and 807 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: great he is and that video he made about why 808 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: that these pictures are so important is the greatest. 809 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. He's very smart and he knows about 810 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: a lot of different things. And as the more because 811 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 2: I just follow him on Instagram, I don't but he 812 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: is someone that has been a YouTube I think they 813 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: VidCon came out of him learning what it meant to 814 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 2: be a viral YouTuber. Oh, he was a vlogger person 815 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: and from my town. So today when I was being 816 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 2: nostalgic about my past, that came up too, Like could 817 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: I be a comedian? What would I do if I 818 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: did live in Montana? This place that makes me happy 819 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 2: to be? So it's not insane that I think could 820 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: I live here? Not as a way of running away, 821 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 2: but he is someone that has wildly been successful, and 822 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,959 Speaker 2: he's from Missouli. He's from here, and he lives here, 823 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: and this is not a big town, you know. 824 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: And also it's not run away, especially these days when 825 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: when quarantine happened and a bunch of people were like, 826 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm not living in la anymore. Where there's I'm not 827 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,439 Speaker 1: going to be by myself, there's nowhere to go, blah 828 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: blah blah. Like a lot of people moved back to 829 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: where they're from because you can now we. 830 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 2: Can you can open learning. Yeah, you can do it, And. 831 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: A lot of people made big life adjustments realizing I'm 832 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: living in a town that's kind of nasty and very lonely, 833 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: and my family is nowhere to be found and yeah, 834 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: it's not like it's not the fat of the land nineties, 835 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: like when I moved to LA and it's like, yeah, Dad, 836 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: pay for me to go try to be a stand 837 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: up gomic. It's like, it's those days are long gone. 838 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what I'm more confronted by. But 839 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: it's a it's it's it's with promise and excitement. I 840 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: think about coming here, but I also I like living 841 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. I do. I'm right in the middle. 842 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 2: I can't decide. I'm I will be happy doing either. 843 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 2: Is what I need to realize. 844 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 3: You know what it is. 845 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: I think you just keep doing what you're doing, which 846 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: is going there for big stretches of time when you 847 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: can and then seeing what happens. 848 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you do that too. We like to go home. 849 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: I love to go home. 850 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 851 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: Well, also I love my family that literally uh missing 852 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 1: my mom of course, but my family and the family 853 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: that we used to live next door to are all 854 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: still there. And the family I don't want to docks 855 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: them or whatever, but that we spend the most time 856 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: with still live on the. 857 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 3: Property that we all grew up on. 858 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: So going home is literally about as nostalgic as you 859 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: can get because we're right in that spot, but it's 860 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: all changed around us. So we can see our old 861 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: house that we grew up in from age like two 862 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: to about ten. We can see in the back of 863 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: their property. It's so crazy. And then we're all now adults, 864 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: which is very strange because truly it's me, my sister 865 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: or my cousin Stevie, you know, like and then their 866 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: kids and how the family's grown. And it's like, it's 867 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: good too if you have the kind of family that 868 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: you want to be with, right, you know, it is 869 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: so helpful and good for your Yes, it's like it 870 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: changes me when I go home. It like helps me immensely. 871 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 2: And a lot of people would be traumatized by and 872 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 2: we're not shoving it in your face, but I liked 873 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 2: my life. Yes, well, you're lucky. 874 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 3: We're very lucky to have places to go back to. 875 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: Yes. 876 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: And if I can get my cousin Stevie to put 877 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: in a pool, I might move back here. 878 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be the coolest. It's like out in. 879 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: The middle of farmland in Pedaluma, and I'm like, I 880 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: know it's not hot enough to justify this, but can't 881 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: we talk about it. 882 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 3: I know I can't make it happen. 883 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: On my bike ride, I was looking at these little nooks, 884 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: these like places that I still a song or the 885 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: smell of rain and the sun coming out. Little things 886 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 2: trigger these properties that I remember. And today I just 887 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 2: rode my bike to see if those houses were for 888 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 2: sale or it's just real specific little areas. This is 889 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 2: a place I realistically could get a house, you know, 890 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 2: that's the end. 891 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's also one of the most gorgeous states 892 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: in the Union. It's really it's amazingly that picture you 893 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: sent on Elise and I. 894 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 3: Yes, so beautiful. 895 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: That was from So I hiked up the M there's 896 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: just a big cement letter M on the and I 897 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: also figured out an interesting sociological experience, like it always 898 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 2: seems like a long hike because I'm always looking at 899 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 2: the top. But this time I hiked around the halfway point, 900 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 2: or what I decided was the halfway point. I'm like, 901 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 2: I'm more than halfway, and I just kept hike. I 902 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 2: didn't ever look up, because you can see when you're 903 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 2: approaching it, and all of a sudden it was there. 904 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 2: It seemed like it took half the time, so That's 905 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: what I'm going to do now. If I'm hiking, I 906 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 2: do not look at the destination up top. That's what 907 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 2: makes it take forever. Eyes down, eyes down, looking at 908 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: your boots. 909 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: Do you see any nature? Do you see any animals 910 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: on a hike like that? This hike is more like 911 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: of a grassy. 912 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 2: Hillside. Yeah, it's a knoll, it's an all. There's a gunman, 913 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 2: and no one knew about them until they watched this 914 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 2: film and then I rolled this up. 915 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: Her. 916 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: Isn't there a book repository on this mountain anyway? 917 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 2: At the very bottom there is, there's a book. It's 918 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 2: the library, and you have to leave your books in 919 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 2: the depository. But yeah, that's where I went after the hike. 920 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 2: That's this whole This whole story's linking up perfectly. But 921 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 2: on the hike, your damn right. And even in my 922 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 2: dad's backyard there has been the deer have been its 923 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: mating season, y'all. And these baby deer with the Bamby 924 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: spots on them perfect like, are outside my window. You 925 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 2: aren't on the Instagram, but I wake up and there's 926 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 2: baby deer laying side by side right outside my window. 927 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: They just I know they're there in the morning. I 928 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: open the shades and they look up at me because 929 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: dangerously they're very comfortable around here. 930 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 3: Onop Sorry, dog's parking. 931 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 2: That's quite all right. I love animals. But there has 932 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 2: been some Bamby picturesque cartoon deer just in Oh and 933 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: they yeah, on the hike today, there's deer. 934 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: Have you ever had a Like, there's a lot of 935 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: deer in Pelama, and especially where we lived because it's 936 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: way outside of town, and my dad actually got they 937 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: almost got in to well, they did kind of get 938 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: into an accident because a deer jumped out in front 939 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: of the car and he slammed on the brakes and 940 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: my cousin hit her head and it was this crazy 941 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: thing that like, you know, and he goes, if that's 942 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: the choice you're making, make sure you don't hurt the 943 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,479 Speaker 1: people in your car. 944 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 3: Hit the deer, yes, which I was like, Oh, that's 945 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 3: a rough one. 946 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 2: Oh that's what's happened to me. I've hit deer. Yeah. 947 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: I can't even tell the rest of the story. It 948 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: was awful. No, yes, do you do have I don't 949 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: know why I brought this there. No, it's important. We're 950 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: giving good information pet enjoy deer, but also if you 951 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 2: see them jump in the road, you kill that deer 952 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 2: because you got a loved one and you can't just 953 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 2: pull a Karen's arm in front of me like a 954 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 2: book bag, right. You got to save the people, and 955 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 2: that it's people first. A lot of people care more 956 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: about animals, so you're in or. 957 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: The reaction is just it's this gorgeous, majestic animal, so 958 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: slam on your brakes and then someone's going through the windshields. 959 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 2: I borrowed my dad's car. I had Chosenman, which is 960 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 2: three hours away, and my dad has a fancy new 961 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,959 Speaker 2: car and I'm paranoid to drive it. And the whole 962 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: time I thought a deer was going to leap onto 963 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 2: the hood because it's a very realistic concern. And in 964 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 2: town here, there's deer all around town and they're getting 965 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 2: hit all the time. I talked about the deer with 966 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 2: the helmet and the deer that has her tongue out, 967 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 2: and the other deer that has a leg that bends 968 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 2: the wrong way. That's because there's just deer in town 969 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 2: and they get hit by cars and then they move 970 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 2: ahead and they have a weird leg and they start 971 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 2: a family. And this is and I'm not kidd I'm talking. 972 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 2: One of these baby deers is the leg the backwards 973 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,479 Speaker 2: leg deer. 974 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: You know why, because it's not Los Angeles, where you 975 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: have your body has to be perfect. It's Montana where 976 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: people understand you've been through some shit. Yeah, maybe something's 977 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: happening new, but you can still have a relationship. 978 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. It's people are They're judge for what's on 979 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 2: the inside. A lot of these deer in town really good, 980 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: so beautiful. But yeah, I've seen a lot of animals, 981 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 2: and there's bears. I'm sure I could go on a 982 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 2: bike ride and see a brown bear or a little 983 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: black bear. Careful, but brown bears also can be grizzlies. 984 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 2: Let's keep that in mind, okay. And they'll attack you. 985 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 2: And a moose. If you see a moose, I've seen 986 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 2: mooses before. They'll dance on you, just aggressively. They'll come 987 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: after you. 988 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most animals like that. Big will be like, 989 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: get away from me. Yeah, in some attack mode manner. 990 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 2: But as soon as we are done here, I'm going 991 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 2: up to Flathead Lake, a beautiful lake. It's a mile deep. 992 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 2: There's a Flatthead monster. A lot of people think it's 993 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 2: a sturgeon. We were talking a little bit about the 994 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 2: Loch Ness. Yes, even if it isn't a dragonlake that 995 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 2: breaches with a tail, it's a fish that is so 996 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 2: big that people have confused it for a monster. There 997 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 2: is because it is such a deep lake that there 998 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: are you know, a thousand pound fish in it. 999 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, And possibly because there's a theory and this 1000 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: is why I believe in the Loch Nest monster. That 1001 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 1: lakes that deep have connective tunnels. 1002 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 2: To each other. 1003 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: That inane to me because Blue Lake is where we 1004 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: used to go on vacation every summer, and it was 1005 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: up in Lake County, so it was like two hours 1006 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: away from Pedaloma. 1007 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 3: And we went there every year. 1008 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: And then when I moved to La I was staying 1009 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: in Margaret Chow's room in the house that she had 1010 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: with Greg Barrent. 1011 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 2: Again Yep. 1012 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 1: She had a book in her room called Mysterious California. 1013 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: So I was just reading it because I was trying 1014 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: to pass the time because she was on the road, 1015 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: and I read about they it was basically like county 1016 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: by county, they go through all the cryptids and all 1017 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: the weird stuff that is known for each area. And 1018 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 1: then it said Blue Lake, California, there's basically a loch 1019 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: Nest monster in Blue Lake. So it's so deep that 1020 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: they no one's been able to measure it. And in 1021 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: like the late eighteen hundreds, they were having a Fourth 1022 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: of July celebration down on one end it's called the Narrows, 1023 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: is the one end of the lake. And so there 1024 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: was a little I must have told you this or. 1025 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 2: The reflection of the fireworks, you could. 1026 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: See the fireworks were out on a little float, and 1027 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: so the whole town was gathered and it was probably 1028 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: five hundred people was gathered on that end of the 1029 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: lake and watching the float with all the fireworks on it. 1030 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: And in between the float and the shore, a monster 1031 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: came up out of the water, looked at the fireworks, 1032 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: looked at the entire town witnessed this animal at one time, 1033 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: and they said it basically looked like the Lochness monster, put. 1034 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 2: On a giant pair of sunglasses and said see you later. 1035 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 3: By losers. 1036 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 2: I I. And so it makes sense now that every 1037 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,240 Speaker 2: time I've water skate on flathead leg, when I fall 1038 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 2: and that boat keeps going and you're alone for two 1039 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 2: to three minutes. As the boat turns around, I think 1040 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 2: the weird feeling I feel now that I know there's 1041 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 2: underground tunnels, Yes, I don't. Yeah, this is the time 1042 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 2: we could use Hank Green. 1043 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 4: I'm sure he knows a lot about the US total bullshit. 1044 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 2: But it is if it is. Yes, it's a giant sturgeon, 1045 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 2: a giant fish. But that's big. That that's what I 1046 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 2: was afraid of. A giant fish that's bigger than me. Yes, 1047 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: at least tasting my leg from the knee down. 1048 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 3: That's just like a little nibble. Wait, how big would 1049 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 3: you say? Like school bus? 1050 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 4: You know? 1051 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 2: Usually school Karen for real? A smaller bus? Oh? 1052 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 3: Small bus? 1053 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, not like a standard right, but a fish a 1054 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 4: bus like a Volkswagen bus. 1055 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. But it's shaped long like that's 1056 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: the thing. I know. I've seen blurry photos, and I'm 1057 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 2: not confusing that for lock ness photos there are. 1058 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to hold on. What's it called. 1059 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 2: Flat the flathead like monster? 1060 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 3: Flathead lake monster. This will be worth it, Yes, it will. 1061 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: For me and anyone else that wants to join me 1062 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: over here on Google Flathead lake Monster. 1063 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 3: It's the fifth search items. 1064 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 2: Ooh, what are you saying? 1065 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 3: It looks like a big salamander. 1066 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a fish. Giant flippers that could be easily 1067 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 2: confused for salamander like feet, right, oh right, those are flippers. 1068 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 1: Well, I'm And then it has the head of like 1069 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: it has a beak, a long beach yes. And then 1070 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 1: the back of it it has a fish tail, yes, 1071 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: almost like a mermaid. And then it has like flipper feet, 1072 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: almost like alligator feet. 1073 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 2: Would you say yes? And and that's an image I 1074 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: don't even know if you're looking at the same one. 1075 00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 2: I grew up fearing, but that I am. I'm a 1076 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 2: grown man and I'm confronted by it every time I 1077 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 2: go on that lake. But We're still going to go 1078 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 2: out there, and I'm going to My friend has jet skis. 1079 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 2: They have a hydrofoil which is like a little surfboard 1080 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: on a fin that elevates you. So you get on 1081 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 2: it and you pump and you rise above the water 1082 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 2: like three feet and you kind of just We're going 1083 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 2: to do a lot of water sports tomorrow, and I'm 1084 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 2: going to try and do that water ski pyramid. We 1085 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 2: just need a lot of different lengths of rope and 1086 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 2: the ability to climb on each other while skiing. 1087 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, so you're going to need a platform and 1088 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: an elevated platform of some kind. 1089 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: I just need a group of solid skiers that can 1090 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 2: climb on shoulders while skiing, or kick off the skis 1091 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 2: and get up on someone else's haunches. I don't know. 1092 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 2: It's been a dream of mine forever. 1093 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 3: I think you can make it happen. 1094 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a map that says one hundred and 1095 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: thirteen unusual sidings on Flathead Lake between eighteen eighty nine 1096 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty, compiled by someone named Laney Hansel. Great job, Laney, 1097 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: because this is a very readable map. It is very 1098 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: attractive map. And basically the sightings I'm gonna send this 1099 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: to you. There are ces f's and then dates and times. 1100 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 1: So it's either a creature or a fish and both 1101 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: over ten feet long, oh for sure. And they have 1102 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,800 Speaker 1: been sighted all over this lake. 1103 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: It is literally a mile deep, like that's very rare. 1104 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 2: It's not the biggest lake, but it is like, you know, 1105 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 2: a third the size of like Lake Tahoe. It's a 1106 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 2: very large lake and very very deep, and you know, 1107 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 2: there's shit you know there's tunnels, you know, there's fins, 1108 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 2: you know, there's flippers, you know, there's like, you know 1109 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,879 Speaker 2: that horseshoe like mouth, yes, seahorse, I mean hors sea 1110 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 2: horse like mouth on a lizard like fish. But even 1111 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 2: if it is just a twenty foot fish, that scares me. 1112 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 1: Yes, Anything big and you're in the water and it's 1113 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,919 Speaker 1: bigger than your hand is bad fucking news because you're 1114 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: at a disadvantage. 1115 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 3: You don't live in water. You don't know what's going on. 1116 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: So when we were up there one time, my cousin Stevie, 1117 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: who I was talking about before, He's like, come on, 1118 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: swim the lake. So he got in a rowboat and 1119 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: he made me swim from our end of the lake, 1120 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,959 Speaker 1: which was the opposite end, down to the narrows. And 1121 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: halfway on that trip, which was I did it there 1122 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: and back, it was kind of cool. I think it was, 1123 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: like was it I mean, I'm sure it's a mile 1124 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 1: or two, it's not that big of a deal, but. 1125 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 2: It wast though that would be I would mean my snorkel. 1126 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, But halfway through I got the weird feeling and 1127 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: I was just like, there's something swimming underneath me like 1128 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 1: it made me want to scream, but it just made 1129 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: me swim faster, and that I'm gonna send this to 1130 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: both of you. 1131 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 2: There's an Olympic length pool here and I've been going there. 1132 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 2: Thursday night is adult swim night, but I always thought 1133 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 2: be because I was fascinated by escape from Alcatraz and 1134 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 2: I think of Clin Eastwood swimming in the middle of 1135 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 2: the night from Alcatraz to to San Francisco. 1136 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 3: But just impossible. 1137 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: It's so difficult. It is one hundred and fifty laps 1138 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 2: in this pool. So I tried to. I got to a. 1139 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 3: Distance to Alcatraz, from Alcatraz to Land. 1140 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: I got thirty. I got thirty laps on it, and 1141 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 2: I was exhausted. You would have to stop and like, 1142 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 2: but I'm not accounting for you know how rough the 1143 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 2: water would be and the sharks cold. Yeah, how cold 1144 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 2: I would have to be in a wetsuit. Of course, 1145 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it well. 1146 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: And those guys that escape from Alcatraz who they've never found, 1147 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: they think there's a possibility they're all still alive or 1148 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: like some of them are still alive. 1149 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 2: And it's so interesting to me. 1150 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: I love it because at least two of them were brothers, 1151 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: if not all three, I can't remember, but I think 1152 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: definitely two. And they think they went to their own 1153 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: mother's funeral, like they think they're people who follow that story, 1154 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: who are like the reason they think the brothers are 1155 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 1: still alive is because they think there were three old 1156 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: men at the funeral and because they're Yeah, I love 1157 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: that story, but it would be if you've ever taken 1158 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: a ferry from San Francisco to Alcatraz or any have. 1159 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 2: You ever been? 1160 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, like for people that haven't, that 1161 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: water and northern California ocean water is fucking freezing. It 1162 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: is so cold, and that's where all the sharks are. 1163 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: Like Stinton Beach, which is right above the Golden Gate 1164 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: Bridge and then Bay. Oh yeah, Stinton is huge for surfing, 1165 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: but it's it's there's a shark bite there like once 1166 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,439 Speaker 1: a year. Maybe that's a guess obviously because my voice 1167 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: won't like this, but I think it's they're often. 1168 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 2: Actually shark bites down there under the Golden Gate breeze? 1169 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 2: Is it. 1170 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 3: The number goes as high number ship, your voice has to. 1171 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 2: Go up, even though you don't even want to hear 1172 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 2: me suggest there's a dozen bites a year. Dogs will 1173 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 2: be circling around. 1174 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 3: The neighborhood my ear drums. 1175 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 1: You know, I have to say, and this is I'm 1176 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: going to right now say a completely unfounded and controversial 1177 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: surfing opinion. 1178 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 3: Uh, I think. 1179 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: Nor Cow surfers are cooler and more hardcore because it 1180 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: is so hard to even get in the ocean. 1181 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 2: Of course they are. Yeah, I had a reunion a 1182 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 2: year ago. We're talking about doing it again up in 1183 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 2: the Puget Sound and the water in Washington. Of course 1184 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 2: we had wet suits and I didn't have a hoodie 1185 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 2: and booties and gloves and everything. But I don't know 1186 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 2: what I'm doing really surfing. But my friend is very good. 1187 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 2: He lives outside Seattle, and the water it looked like 1188 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 2: it was boiling, and that two waves would just be 1189 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 2: crashing into each other, creating a third wave. And there 1190 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 2: was people like surfing and transferring from one way to 1191 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 2: another over this this transfer of waves. It was chaos. 1192 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 2: And also they were all way more hardcore and they 1193 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 2: were way less like territorial. They probably were like, you 1194 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 2: guys aren't from California, right, And I'm like, no, Montana. 1195 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 2: And then they were nice. Yeah, but I don't know. 1196 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 2: I've been turned off by serving because of the territorial vibe, 1197 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 2: which is can learn anywhere. 1198 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 1: There's a little bit to me unless you are a Hawaiian, 1199 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: the idea of being territorial. When it's like are you 1200 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: getting this from point break? Like are you just doing 1201 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: this because you think you're supposed to do it? Like 1202 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: are you literally a dog town and Z boy? I 1203 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think you're just a dude. 1204 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if you're getting it from point rank, then 1205 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but you're being a bit of a Barney Hally, 1206 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 2: you're a Barney turtle. 1207 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: Whereas I think in Norkel, no one has to be 1208 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 1: territorial because if you don't belong there, you'll probably die 1209 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: in the undertow. Like truly, it's so unsafe out there. 1210 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: It's am it's impressive. 1211 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 2: In Hawaii, I was, I had been drinking and I 1212 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 2: was just like body surfing and this guy came out 1213 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 2: of nowhere, swam out to the water and put a 1214 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 2: glow stick around my neck and then and I'm like thanks, 1215 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 2: and he just waved and then swam back at the 1216 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 2: speed of a motor boat because he just He was like, 1217 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 2: that guy might drown, so I'm going to put I'll 1218 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 2: never forget to see a lifeguard. He never said anything. 1219 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 2: He was a civilian. 1220 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Bro was he just partying bro and Want And he 1221 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: came and put a rave glowstick, snapped it around my 1222 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 1: neck like a necklace, and I was like, what a 1223 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: thoughtful thing to do. Yeah, so that they can find 1224 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: you if you go under and are just kind of 1225 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: laying at the bottom. 1226 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. But you know, I'm a bit of a water man. 1227 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't like to brag, but I know I'm way in. 1228 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 2: I know my way underwater where you can't breathe. 1229 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 3: I know how to get under there, I know and 1230 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 3: flail around. Yeah, I come back home. 1231 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm comfortable down where your lungs don't work well. 1232 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Also, because I always heard that if two waves are 1233 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 1: crashing into each other, that is an undertoe spot. That 1234 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: is like how you can actually recognize where to not 1235 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 1: be swimming. 1236 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 2: Yes, and this time last year when I was I 1237 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 2: was getting pulled out and I just had to make 1238 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 2: sure I knew where we were on the beach and 1239 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 2: had to maintain that position. But it was very scary. Yes, 1240 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 2: but when you're wearing a wet suit, you are kind 1241 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 2: of floating. So it wasn't that that. 1242 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 3: Helps you, you know. 1243 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Did I tell you about the story of me and 1244 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: Adrian getting almost pulled under in an undertoe And we 1245 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: had been watching the day before because it was in 1246 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: that spot and quiet on the beach in Holloway, and 1247 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: the day before we watched a guy have to get 1248 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: skewed by actual lifeguards and we were like, I don't embarrassing, 1249 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy, and then he must be from London or something, 1250 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: and it was that kind of thing where it looked okay, 1251 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: but there were they had put out flags of like 1252 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: swim at your own risk whatever. Yeah, And so then 1253 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: the next day we're in the same spot and we 1254 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: go out to do our standing in the water gossiping 1255 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: move and that's our routine and it's usually very like 1256 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: once you get past the main break, you're fine because 1257 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: you're just then you're out and you're just kind of 1258 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: like floating and bobbing and it's great. Well it wasn't great, 1259 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 1: and so Adrian and I were kind of like, eh, 1260 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: this waves are a little it's a little much for me. 1261 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to be out here, so like I'm 1262 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: not going to do this. So we both said that, 1263 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: and so we both went in at the same time 1264 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: and we were trying to like walk like our feet 1265 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: were on the sand, so we were walking, but the 1266 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: water was like, you know, past our waist, and we couldn't. 1267 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 3: Get out like we could. 1268 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: The water kept pulling us away and further down the beach. 1269 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 2: To the fish watching below at your ankles. You were 1270 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 2: moonwalking out to the middle of the ocean. Yes, exactly. 1271 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 1: We were moonwalking kind of backwards and then out, and 1272 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: so we weren't talking to each other. 1273 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 3: She was a little bit ahead of me and she 1274 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 3: was like, uh, and it was almost. 1275 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Like we were being pulled by a big invisible rubber 1276 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 1: band back out into the ocean. And I was doing 1277 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 1: it too, where I was like the thought went through 1278 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: my head where I'm like, oh, this isn't funny anymore. 1279 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 2: Now we're the guy. 1280 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: We're the guy from yesterday. And Adrian turned around goes, 1281 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 1: what the fuck? And then I got scared because we 1282 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 1: weren't acknowledging it, and then when she acknowledged it, it 1283 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: was like holy shit. But we made our way out 1284 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 1: and when we got out, I was like we were 1285 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: all the way down the beach and and I we 1286 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: had to walk back. And normally I would not walk 1287 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: down a beach in a bathing suit. I would be 1288 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 1: too I'm from the eighties. I would be too ashamed 1289 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 1: of my body. I literally was like, fuck this, I 1290 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: am walking all the way back. I don't give a shit. 1291 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: And we were like it was like we were mad 1292 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 1: at the ocean. We like walked away. We left our 1293 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: friend Janet there and I found out afterwards because I 1294 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: was like, that could have been so embarrassing. And Adrian goes, oh, no, no, no, 1295 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: there's some lifeguards that came down and watched us to 1296 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: make sure. 1297 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 3: We could get out. 1298 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, I didn't see the lifeguards, but 1299 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: apparently we got like they spotted us until they saw 1300 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 1: that we got free. 1301 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not yet. They are watching then. Not where 1302 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 2: we were up in the Puget Sound, there was no. 1303 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Where people were surfing the undertoe. 1304 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 2: That is the and you try not to panic, and 1305 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 2: you try and stay calm, but I'm a panicker and 1306 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 2: I'm that's why I'm so scared of surfing. And like 1307 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 2: you said, when we got out of the water, you 1308 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 2: think you're in one place waiting for waves. Women got out. 1309 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 2: We were half a mile from where our pile of 1310 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 2: clothes were on the beach, Like, yes, it's unbelievable how 1311 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 2: far we traveled. It you don't even so. 1312 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Fucking powerful, and it's really scary once you because I'm 1313 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: always like, yeah, I'm from northern California, I understand how 1314 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 1: powerful the ocean is. But in Hawaii it's usually, especially 1315 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: at this beach, it's usually so low key that it 1316 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: seemed like, oh, these are just little waves. That's why 1317 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: we were laughing at the guy the day before because 1318 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, could you knock it out of the ocean, 1319 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: And then it was like, holy shit, this is like 1320 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: serious business that you don't mess around with that. 1321 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 2: And that's not even bringing up the fact like like 1322 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 2: April Richardsonois used to talk about they're being glowing the 1323 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 2: dark dinosaur fish with unicorn horns and all these like 1324 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 2: they're just space aliens in the water yeat So the 1325 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 2: fact that you can just standard. 1326 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: Drown, you can standard drown, but you can also get 1327 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 1: eaten by basically an old dinosaur that has gotten so 1328 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: good at surviving that it's been around for millions of 1329 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 1: years and it just will it just you are like 1330 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: a trader Joe's app like sitting in the water, your 1331 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: big fat white body, and they're just like, do I 1332 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: want that cream cheese stuffed America? 1333 01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 2: Let's see. 1334 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: Like they're just like they're choosing not to kill you 1335 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 1: every time you're in the ocean. 1336 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 2: Oh, look at this pimiento olive with legs. 1337 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 4: Yummy, They're delicious. 1338 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: This will start me off at the four o'clock hour. 1339 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: That's a thing where like when the sun starts to 1340 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: go down, I'm like everyone else to get out because 1341 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm positive that's when everyone's gonna get eaten by a shark. 1342 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, be careful in the water out there, everybody, guys, 1343 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 2: just please be careful land water, even if it's your 1344 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 2: river or a lake or an any cub. 1345 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 3: Cryptids are everywhere, including your. 1346 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 2: Legs too much. Yeah, your kids in the house. When 1347 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 2: you have taken a bath, water is afraid. Be lightly afraid. 1348 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 1: Always of all water, even a water water and all animals. 1349 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and even a warm bowl of soup. Don't lane forward, no, no, no, no, 1350 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 2: it might be your last meal. You can drown in 1351 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 2: two inches of soup. But remember the old saying always 1352 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 2: remember you can drown in two inches, just two inches 1353 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 2: of soup. It's just on a camel's can. 1354 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 1: A disclaimer, especially if it's any kind of a showder. 1355 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 3: You're screwed. You're not getting out of that. 1356 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Not only you're drowning, there's a piece of potato lodged 1357 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 2: in there. Oh you're drowning and choking. 1358 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 3: You're choking, you're drowning. Conky ch chambles kunky Okay, yeah. 1359 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I had to put that in there. Well, 1360 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 2: this was fun. We don't need we did it. 1361 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we never do. We never have needed them. But 1362 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 3: we allow them. 1363 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 2: We we allow them. We do. 1364 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 4: We desire them, we do, we do. We're grateful for them, 1365 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 4: for sure, grateful for them. Thank you to all of 1366 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 4: our guests in the past. But you were not needed today, 1367 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 4: is my point. 1368 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,760 Speaker 3: True. We can do it with you and we can 1369 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 3: do it without chet. 1370 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 2: This well, this was fun. Good to see you, friend, Yeah, 1371 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 2: you too, enjoy your enjoy your waterski pyramid. That will 1372 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 2: be executed perfectly. Please thank you. 1373 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 3: Good luck with it. 1374 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Please send pictures to me and Andrew Sean. Remember that 1375 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,800 Speaker 1: was the problem that was made. Yes, yes, okay, and 1376 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,879 Speaker 1: I will say hi to the Flathead lake Monster. 1377 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 2: For me, I will shake its little Finn you've been 1378 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 2: listening to Do You Need a Ride? 1379 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 3: D y n Hey? 1380 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. 1381 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 3: Produced by Analise Nelson. 1382 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,560 Speaker 2: Mixed by John Bradley. 1383 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 3: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks. 1384 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,960 Speaker 2: Theme song by Karen Kilgareth. 1385 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 1: Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar 1386 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,520 Speaker 1: podcast That's d y nar Podcast. 1387 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,520 Speaker 2: For more information, go to exactly rightmedia dot com. 1388 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,799 Speaker 3: Thank you, Oh, You're welcome