1 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: It is Monday, February third, twenty twenty, and it is 2 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: time for Morning Combat. Donks. Welcome. My name is Luke Thomas. 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Along with Brian Campbell, we are the host of this program. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Before we get started, as always, housekeeping notes, please give 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: the video a like subscribe to the channel. 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Wow. 45 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: This is from the guy wearing a abortion Rock T shirt. 46 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Abortion Rock Cannibal cor. 47 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Hey, we're already starting on a bed we missed you 48 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: last week. You were doing some Super Bowl radio our 49 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: guy man and that would rather Chuckmanton Hall's. 50 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: Hat or his haircut? Does he have a haircut? No 51 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: bad call. It looks like Darth Vader when the mask 52 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: came off. And by the way, I heard you to, 53 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: I've heard you to slander me endlessly. You liked Parasite? 54 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Why are you slandering me about it? 55 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: Well, I like the I like the movie, not the 56 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: person who recommended it. 57 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: You actually do like the person record. It was a 58 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: very good movie. Guess what I'm saying. 59 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean I felt you know, it took me a 60 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: couple hours to really put all the pieces together. 61 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: Who he has seen parasite? What it was trying to 62 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: tell me anyboy's seen parasite? Wow? You you philistine? You 63 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: heavens I bet you saw Fast and the Furious one 64 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: through seven. 65 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: A lot of Andy Kings in the studio, right, unbelievable 66 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: Andy Kings will get don't do your solid Well. 67 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Look, we got a lot of stuff to get today, including 68 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: all of that. But we have to start with the 69 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: fact that it is Monday. But it's the beginning of 70 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: UFC two forty seven Fight week. Let's start. So on Saturday, 71 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: the Return of the King, the greatest fighter of the 72 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: twenty tens, arguably ever ever. Look, maybe even that's what 73 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: he's working towards is John Jones. He will defend his 74 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: light heavyweight cround against upstart Dominic Rayes. This will be 75 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: the Tyota Toyota sent excuse me in Houston, Texas. All right, 76 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: let's let's play a little game here. Yeah, I like 77 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: to let me pitch to you first, because I did 78 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: the dissected and on it, I didn't do a reason 79 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: to believe or not believe that Reyes might win. But rather, 80 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: what does this game look like? What's he good at? 81 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: What's he not so good at? So let's do it 82 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: a little bit differently over here, Brian, Let's imagine you 83 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: had to convince me of the case for Dominic Rayis, 84 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: because I've noticed not many people believe. In fact, I 85 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I think so many people either don't 86 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: know who he is or don't believe. They're a little 87 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: bit checked out on it. People are like, wow, that 88 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: two forty six car was bad than two forty seven. 89 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: One is even worse. It is even worse. I don't 90 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: have that I don't. I'm a big fan of Dominic Rayis, 91 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how well he's gonna do. I think 92 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: John deserves to be your favorite. Let's play the game, though, 93 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: As I indicated, give me a really good reason, the 94 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: best reason you can imagine for why Dominic Rayes can 95 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: win this fight. 96 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: I can jump out easily and say size, but I 97 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: actually think Dominic Rays's chances in this fight have a 98 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: lot more to do with John Jones than they do 99 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: with dom reys isray is fully credible of being a 100 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: live dog of this being a potential gust of Sin 101 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: part one all over again. Should John not take him seriously? Certainty, Certainly, 102 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: dom reys is tall, volume striker, good leg kicks. 103 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of the functional things that. 104 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: You would want somebody to do to have a chance 105 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: against this version of John Jones. The real question for 106 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: me is who exactly is this version of John Jones. 107 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: This is an. 108 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Odd sort of turning point moment for Jones potentially. Here's 109 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: what I mean, He's really one win away here, Luke 110 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: from cleaning out his division for the second time. A 111 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: feat you rarely see this is Demetrius Johnson Anderson Silva 112 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: GSP level territory and probably a move up to heavyweight 113 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: after that. Yet at the same time, the version that 114 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: we've seen posts Usada, You're gonna have to ask yourself, 115 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: is this inefficient? 116 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Just a clarification? Are you counting the second gust of 117 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Sin fight in that? Yes? Look pretty good in that fight, 118 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: It look pretty good. 119 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: But it kind of plays into what I'm saying. Are 120 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: we seeing an evolved thirty two year old John Jones 121 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: who is learning about how to to be more efficient 122 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: to offset the potential losses of speed and power in 123 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: everything that comes with age, Luke, or are we seeing 124 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: a guy who is. 125 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: Starting to become vulnerable? 126 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 2: Maybe vulnerable, not so much because physically, but maybe mentally. 127 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: There was a lot of he's playing with his food 128 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: being talked about how close that Thiago Santos fight was. 129 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: I just went to rewatch that this morning. I don't 130 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: know how much it was playing with his food, like 131 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: I thought in person watching kpe sat as much as 132 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: it was. He had a guy across from him who 133 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: was going to make him pay a toll for closing distance, 134 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: and he played that thing safe until the finish. If 135 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: John Jones can fall back into that trap, don Reyes 136 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: has to gain his respect early, has to be a 137 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: volume striker. But if he can get John Jones to 138 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: be a point fighter, the same version of John Jones 139 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: we saw in the Maheta fight, in the osp fight, 140 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: he has a chance to win this fight. If he 141 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: somehow is not able to close a distance, is not 142 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: able to gain that respect, then I do think he's 143 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: ultimately fodder for a guy. 144 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: I do believe he's the greatest of all time. Yes, 145 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: when you look at this, you think, what about the 146 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: takedown threat from Dominic Rays. It's not it's not substantial. 147 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Takedown defense is interesting because John can get most guys down, 148 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: But as we talked about on I dissected the second 149 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: order takedown defense. When Dominic Rays is pretty good, he 150 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: likes to get back to his feet, He's good about 151 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: getting off the fence, and John doesn't like to expend 152 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: a lot of energy when he doesn't have to. Speaking 153 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: of which, not expending energy, he went five rounds with 154 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Rashad Evans in twenty twelve, then four Vitor Bellft, just 155 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: the one against jail Son and then five against Gustufson. 156 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: UFC won sixty five five against Tashera, five against Cormier, 157 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: five against Saint Prue, three against Cormier, three against Gustafson, Okay, 158 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: but then five against Anthony Smith, five against Tiago Santas. 159 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: You know what, that reminds me of that last chapter 160 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: before the sabbatical of George Saint Pierre, where he could 161 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: win other ways, but he's a little bit burned out. 162 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that John is burned ou. I'm talking 163 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: about GSP. He was a little bit burned out, and 164 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: he knew that every time there was another challenge for him, 165 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: the risk for what could go wrong was elevated. And 166 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: everything you've been building can just go away in an instant. 167 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: So let's take the variables out of fighting. Let's just 168 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: make it the safest possible way. Let's wrestle these guys 169 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: to the ground. And you should have understood that too. 170 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Stays the sabbatical, comes back, and he beats Michael Bisping. 171 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: I think you're seeing either one of two things in 172 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: those last two fights that you mentioned, because I think 173 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: you're dead on about it. Is that a John Jones, 174 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: who at I think thirty one years old, is he 175 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: finally getting old? Because thirty one's not old, but he's 176 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: been fighting for eleven twelve years. 177 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: At the super elite level for most of. 178 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: That stretch undefeated basically basically, So that's one consideration. Maybe 179 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: that's that, or is that a little bit of truth 180 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: or maybe none at all, combined with the fact that 181 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: he realizes I'm building towards something. He says it outright. 182 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: He says, when there's a debate about the greatest ever, 183 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: I want it to be a short debate. Well, you 184 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: don't get there through losses, and you can get there 185 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: through wins, even if they go five rounds. So if 186 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: he does that and he's a little bit conservative, that 187 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: will hurt him. Fight Metric has told me that anyone 188 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: who can box with him in a numerically close way 189 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: can keep it. They're the ones who've done the best. 190 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: So you're first and second Cormier. Up until the last Cormier, 191 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: the loss and certainly the first gust of Sin fight, 192 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: he was actually numerically outstruck in those ones with the hands. Well, 193 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: that's exactly what dominic reyis is. Actually, that's what we're saying. 194 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: The blueprint is there, the body is there, the style 195 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: is there. I think it comes down to John's mentality. 196 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: You remember the first chapter, John was a seeking destroyer. 197 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: He the guy he didn't learn the amazing moves off 198 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: of YouTube. 199 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: The fact that he was combining elite level speed power 200 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: chin with technique that made him just transcended, next level superstar. 201 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: He can mix in the flashy moves. He had the 202 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: natural length on you. He had all everything going for him. 203 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: The guy we've seen the last few fights though, is 204 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: more like ninety three through ninety eight. Michael Jordan try 205 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: to end at a jump shot to his career, to 206 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: try to, you know, fight off the age curve. And 207 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: you mentioned the second gust Of fight that was an 208 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: efficient masterpiece. But what he did is the moment he 209 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: knew he had gust Of sent tired, he went in 210 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: there and rustled him down and finished it. He did 211 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: not do that against Thiago Santos. The reason I think, 212 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: having rewatched that fight is because the threat offensively was 213 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: too much there that in John's mind, You're right, maybe 214 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: he's going a little gsp going, you know what, I'm 215 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: gonna win this fight by by decision. In my head, 216 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: I've won this fight. But he left that back door 217 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: open and Maheta on two broken down wheels made it 218 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: to that back porch he got closed. What decision it 219 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: comes down to whether John can reactivate the mentality of 220 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: the old bones. If he can, if he's looking to wrestle, 221 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: if he's looking to walk down and finish. This is 222 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: a fight he's gonna win and has some potential look spectacular. 223 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: In doing so. 224 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: But if he's not going to be that straight killer 225 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: that we originally loved about him, dom Reis is that 226 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: perfect foil to give him. 227 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: A tough night. The last thing I'd say about this 228 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: also is we talk about what defines greatness at MMA. Well, 229 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: winning of course, but winning in what capacity, for how long, 230 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: against who in what weight classes? And we live in 231 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: this age where people are constantly changing weight classes. John 232 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: has not done that. But I want to be very clear, 233 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm not here to demean what changing weight classes entails. 234 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: It's incredibly difficult to do what Connor has done, to 235 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: do what even going down or going up Dominic Cruz, 236 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: any of the champ champs who have done it, Vjpan 237 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: and Randy Gator, all of them. But what I am 238 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: going to say is I do think that the single 239 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: hardest thing to do in MMA is to be a 240 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: weight class or in the UFC anyway is to be 241 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: a UFC champion and then stand a post for wave 242 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: after wave of challenger. Who saw Tim Elliott giving Demitris 243 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Johnson a really tough fight. Nobody did. I'm not here 244 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: to say that that's an argument specifically for Dominic Rays, 245 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: but rather it is examining the process, that process that 246 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: he has been under. Dude, you got Dominic Rays who 247 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: has never tasted defeat, and is he the athlete or 248 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: the striker or the wrestler that John Jones is. Probably not, 249 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: But you don't have to be. You just have to 250 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: be on one time. They have to be sick one time, 251 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: their ankle has to be not going well one time. 252 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: Doubt has to creep in and everything can change. Put 253 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: it together. 254 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: A win streak at this level, at the title level, 255 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: and sustaining it is so insane compared to other sports. 256 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: There's so many ways to lose. 257 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: John Jones could have lost his title Anthony Smith by disqualification. Look, 258 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: it very well could have happened. It was on the 259 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: verge of happen, and yes it would have been another 260 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: Matt Hamill type loss. They would have run it back. 261 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: Jones probably wins it. But it just goes to show 262 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: you when you're walking that tightrope. 263 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: It's hard. 264 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: If you're a fan of entertainment, though, you want to 265 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: see Jones go back to his Mister Brownstone days. You 266 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: want to see him go out there and finish this guy. 267 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: Maybe be a little wild outside the cage, just go 268 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: out there. You don't want him being so focused on 269 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: protecting the legacy. Like you mentioned that, it could change 270 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 2: his style and the chances that he takes inside the cage, 271 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: because when you've got a Thiago Santos with two hurt 272 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 2: legs just asking to be taken down and submitted, and 273 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: you don't attempt that the old bones would have been 274 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: in that he would have been up in that piece. 275 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: It is does on paper? Does Dominic Reyes look like 276 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: the toughest challenge John's ever faced? Probably not. I would 277 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: probably look at some other ones and say, well, Daniel 278 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: Cormier seems like a much tougher challenge. On the other hand, Brian, 279 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: you've got a guy on Dominic Reyes, as I mentioned, 280 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: never taste a defeat. And if you ask Dominic Reyes, 281 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: do you think you can win this fight? Unequivocally? He 282 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: thinks he can win this fight. He is ready to 283 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: rock and he got taken down on the Uzdemir fight. 284 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: But he knows that John is a wrestling threat. Like, 285 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: there's so much tape on John. It's not a secret 286 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: what he's good at, it's not a secret what he's 287 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: bad at. So it'll be questioning about whether or not 288 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Dominic Rays is the guy to implement that. But this 289 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: is what I mean, dude, every time John goes out there, 290 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: the book is written on him. Now, maybe it's an 291 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: open book test and those can often be harder than 292 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: the closed book tests. But still I take Dominic Rayes 293 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: very seriously. I bet you even if John saying all 294 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: this stuff like he was a scrub and he was 295 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: never an athletically get the guard. 296 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: Just in the last twelve hours, John still going ham 297 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: on Twitter. 298 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know who's not Michael Winkle, John, Greg Jackson, 299 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Brandon Gibson. They take him very, very seriously. And in 300 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: the end, I don't think John is training like a 301 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: chump either. So John can win this. John probably will 302 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: and should, But I'm not sleeping on Dominic Rays even 303 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. 304 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: If John wakes up to the potential of what that 305 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: wake up call against Thiago Santos could be. We should 306 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: see the old John again. But it's just interesting. We 307 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: never talk about the mentality of somebody who loses after 308 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: the fact, but Don Reyes has passed all the tests 309 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: in terms of just listening to his media scrum in 310 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: Los Angeles last week, he talked about that first time 311 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: at that press conference going head to head with John Jones, 312 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: first time he was ever in the same area as him, 313 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: and just not being impressed by the aura and just going, 314 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, to the length of he's just another man 315 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: in front of me again, something we hear all the 316 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: time from an opponent. But I'm just saying, if it's 317 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: one of those things where after the fact we go 318 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: back and look at it, he seems to be dialed 319 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: into where he needs to be. Look, John Jones has 320 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: a historic chin when you look back in some of 321 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: the big. 322 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: Moment huge shots. Yeah, but Rays is a guy. 323 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: Who if Jones is going to leave that back door open, 324 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: could lose a decision. 325 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: Also, I pointed this out on Dissected. One of the 326 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: ways in which John gets hit a little bit. Sometimes 327 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: he hangs on in the clinch a little bit of space. 328 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Who's got some of the best uppercuts in the light 329 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: heavyweight division. It's Dominic Rays. Speaking of which, though, let's 330 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: say that all this is for naught and he goes 331 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: out there Dominic Rays and gets blasted into smithereens in 332 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: thirty seconds, which also, of course could happen. So let's 333 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: say John Jones wins. What happens next? Should the UFC 334 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: pursue a unbelievable grudge match between current UFC middleweight champion 335 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: Israel Attasania or at that point, does John then go 336 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: to heavyweight and take on Steve A. Miyochich and Brian Campbell. 337 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: The reason why we say step A miyochiic is because 338 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: if you listen to his people, they say they're looking 339 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: for a fresh matchup. Now you go down the line 340 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: at heavyweight and you say to yourself, well, who could 341 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: that be? Francis not a fresh matchup? DC, not a 342 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: fresh matchup. Curtis Blades. You could do, but I don't 343 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: think that sets the world on fire. JDS not a 344 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: fresh matchup. He's already fought that guy twice. You're getting 345 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: out to a point in the division where you're giving 346 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: todas shots to somebody who hasn't even earned it. Partly, 347 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: what I think is happening is that Steve Bay's people 348 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: are bluffing because the big money fight at heavyweight right 349 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: now it's Cormier and they all know. And I'm not 350 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: saying it's a Connor McGregor Payde, but certainly better than 351 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Curtis Blades. But if you're really looking for a fresh matchup, 352 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: if you really mean what you say, isn't the fight 353 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: there a John Jones who wins and become somebody who 354 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: no longer has any really credible threats at like heavyweights. 355 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: Let's discuss this. What should the UFC do? Should they 356 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: go with Israel at a Sonya if obviously he has 357 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: to win his next fight against Romere, Let's assume that 358 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: he does, or do they bump up to heavyweight? I 359 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I am they are you much torn 360 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: on this one. I can't wait to hear what you say. 361 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Let me go first if I can. The benefits of 362 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: the first the Otta Soignia fight are obvious. You're talking 363 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: interesting style matchup, right, You're talking grudge match that John 364 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: hasn't had in a long time. Going both ways, Sometimes 365 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: John attacks people and They're like, what before this one 366 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: is very much back and forth. You're talking about sort 367 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: of a global examination of how MMA has collided. It's 368 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: a bit of a super fight because you have the 369 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: middleweight champ going up to the fight the light heavyway champ. 370 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: You've got every ingredient and you could possibly want. On 371 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: the other hand, everybody and their brother has wanted to 372 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: see John Jones go up to step A. Plus, you 373 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: also have another super fight up there, a champ champ 374 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: fight where the light heavyweight champ is going up to heavyweight. Now, 375 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: that would make things difficult for Cormier because then I 376 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: might make a Cormier fight at headweight. So for that reason, 377 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you go Israel out of Sonya versus 378 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: John Jones is the fight to make. But I can 379 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: at least acknowledge Brian Campbell. It's an embarrassment of riches. 380 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: The only thing, the only thing that makes this a 381 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: variable is how he looks against Dominic rays If he 382 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: beats Rayes and he does it like he did against 383 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: let's say Maheta, where Maheta took a scorecard on him, 384 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: which no one had ever done before. It was a 385 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: split decision, for folks don't remember. If he does that, I 386 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: don't know, there's gonna be a lot of clamoring for 387 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: him to go to heavyweight. They're gonna say, well, wait 388 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: a second, now, I can see out of signya having 389 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: the time he needs to get better. Now, it's all 390 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: very doable. If he goes in there and blows the 391 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: doors off of Dominic Rays, that might lean a little 392 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: bit more towards the heavyweight fight. But I gotta tell you, 393 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: while I lean towards Atasiganya just because it's my personal favorite, 394 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to go wrong either way. 395 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: I like your enthusiasm. We did let you go first 396 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: because you have producer credits. But I couldn't agree more. 397 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: And I can't believe I'm in this spot because I'm 398 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: the guy who is banging on the doors, standing out 399 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: front with the American flag, going like this, saying John Jones, 400 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: go to heavyweight already, because that's the ultimate sort of 401 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: final mountain to climb in your legacy. We think you're 402 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: the go. I think you're the go to really be 403 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: the go, become the two division champion, go up there 404 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: and beat all those heavyweights. Yet you only get one 405 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: chance sometimes look for the perfect intersection, the perfect storm, 406 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: to make these kind of super fights where it would 407 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: really matter, It would really captivate so much attention and 408 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: mean so much to the perspective legacies of both. 409 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: You make a good point. 410 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: If he beats dom Reis but doesn't do it in 411 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: just absolutely dominant fashion. 412 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: Remember he's calling the guy a scrub, and Ada Sonia 413 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: beats Romero in thorough impressive, dominant fashion, you might actually 414 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: have a window where it would make sense. 415 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: There would be no pressure for out of Sonya to win. 416 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: He could still benefit from a great performance and a loss, 417 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: and John could still go up to heavyweight afterwards. It's 418 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: kind of an embarrassment, like you said, and a win 419 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: win for everybody. I just don't want to see it 420 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: ultimately stun either of their perspective paths, though, the same 421 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: way that the original superfight that gave Dana a bad 422 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: taste in his mouth about this. You remember BJ GSP 423 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: two BJ Penn never the same after. 424 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: That, right? That is also true? So for me, I 425 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: will see how this all plays out. There's a lot 426 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: of different possiblities that could go. But if it's a 427 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: third fight in a row where John looks less than 428 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: what we know his upper bound limits to be. I 429 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: also think there's gonna be some questions about is he 430 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: aging earlier because he started earlier or something I talked 431 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: about the beginning of the show. People dismiss that the 432 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: last fight because John's been so dominant for so long, 433 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: And again, I don't know right now that that's the case. 434 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, but I don't think you 435 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: can just handily dismiss it one last thing on two 436 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: forty seven before we move along any other storyline on 437 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: that card. 438 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 2: People are bagging on his car. But this card, this 439 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: card is bad, Lucas. Basically, we bring the real takes right, 440 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: we tell it like it is and how it could 441 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: be do we I don't know? This is, of course 442 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: how it should be. 443 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: Right here we go. 444 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: I mean, those who think it's dirty, they have a choice, right, 445 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: Can you be normal? 446 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: Anyway? This card sucks. 447 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: Am I intrigued by the idea of Beefy Latifi going 448 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: to heavyweight and fighting Derek Lewis and then just having 449 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: a slop as fest. Yes, that should be fun to watch. 450 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: Derek Lewis could use a victory there, but really, I 451 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: think you had to dig a little bit deeper on 452 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: the card and maybe say that Lauren Murphy KGB Leef 453 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: fight could produce your next flyweight title contender. Should chef 454 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: Chenko take care of business against Caitlin Chukgian, like we 455 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: all believe, man, that's the co main event, Luke, this card. 456 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: Not a great car. I'm curious to see what happens 457 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: with One Adams and Justin Tafa. One Adams was a 458 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: heavyweight prospect coming off of Dana White choosing that Contender series. 459 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of Contender Series people that kind 460 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: of were somehow like it's either it's either one or 461 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: the other. It's like you get here. Macy Barbara had 462 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: a bit of a bump in the road, but has 463 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: generally been really good, like the one she had a 464 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Virgilian Robertson at UFC Boston was amazing. You know, Greg 465 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Hardy is sort of on his way. 466 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: Viewers reminded me last week that Edmund Shabazian probably the 467 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: steal of that series. 468 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: At the moment, and that Derek Brunson fight I just 469 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: can't say enough good things about. And then Chase Hooper 470 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: seems to be on his way though he's very green. 471 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: Did you get your eminem's in the mail from the US? 472 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: You know what's funny? I got? And when did I 473 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: get those? Last week? Some dude at Serious XM came 474 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: to me. He's like, God, he's been sitting in the 475 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: mailbox for you for like a month, asked me, did 476 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: I have the eminem's? Did you have the ature fucking ass? 477 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: I have those eminems? That was extra dramatic, but well 478 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: they were all broken up and like kind of white. 479 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: They look like dogshit quite literally. In any event, well 480 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: the white part is on brand, keep going well, okay, 481 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: But in any event, I want to see what has 482 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: one Adams as last fight he looked bad. He just 483 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: looked bad. So I'm curious to see where he actually 484 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: is as a prospect, and justin top is probably a 485 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: pretty good test for him to close. 486 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: On John Jones real quick if they don't do the 487 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: out of Signia fight and he goes right to where 488 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: he should. Really, there's nobody left right Johnny Walker's not 489 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: ready for this level. No, do you agree with me 490 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: that Jones against any core top three or four heavyweight 491 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: is a monster paper If you're waiting to happen that 492 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: the general public. 493 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: We'll latch onto the idea of John. 494 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: Jones going up and facing potential danger as a monster 495 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: drawing card. 496 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: So your top five heavyweights are and we have to 497 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: see what happens between Francis and Jarsina Rosenstruck, JDS, Curtis Blades, 498 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: Francis and Daniel Cormier. Francis, Yes, if Arsenian, if Jarzini 499 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: beat some, I guess, But the takedown of Vince is 500 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: like not great. I think John would whoop his ass 501 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: if that happens. JDS is kind of an interesting one, 502 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: like is he too long in the tooth for John? 503 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: Like rather I'm not to be not to win, but 504 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: to be like a credible threat. It's kind of an 505 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: interesting one. And then I guess you got Derek Lusien 506 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: Volkov and over him. Yeah, I don't know. Top five, 507 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 508 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: In twenty twelve, I predicted I didn't stand on the 509 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: mountain top and predicted. I predicted to those listening to 510 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: me that John Jones would eventually make his heavyweight debut 511 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: against brock Lesner. 512 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: Still in play, Luke, It's still in play, right, you know, 513 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: because it happen. 514 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that sit down Dana 515 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: Whitehead with Aaron Bronstetter where they did the betting game, 516 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: and Dana was very candid and sort of his his 517 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: predictions for this year of what would happen. He's still 518 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: on board, saying, yeah, Brock's gonna come probably come back. 519 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 520 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: I mean you could see them cashing it on that. 521 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: Would you have any interest? I know Brock is so 522 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: there's so much they had. 523 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, if they had picked up, if 524 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: Brock had stuck around because he didn't have issues after 525 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: UFC two hundred, I really, to honest to god, would 526 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: uh And even around two fourteen when John beat him 527 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: and then folks forget this, John beat Cormier and this 528 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: is before he popped and everything. Then went on Good 529 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: Morning America with Michael Strahand Do you remember that and 530 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: called out Brock Lesner again called them in the cage 531 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: after the wind he did, and then the pub was 532 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: there at the Post five presser like I remember all 533 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: of it, and then he went on Good Morning America. 534 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, okay, but dude, we're 535 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: now at two forty seven, I mean forty seven pay 536 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: per views. Later they would catch that though, oh they 537 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: would do. I mean, you kid, there's a bear shit 538 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: in the woods, of course, But all right, last thing, 539 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: what story lamp pay attenched to you? Yeah? I get 540 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: with the one Adams one for me. So let's go 541 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: to our next topic. So super Bowl week, meaning everyone 542 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: who as anyone was down there acting a fool. Dana 543 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: White forgot. I think it was on Jim Rome Show, 544 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: if memory serves, saying you know what we saw that 545 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Kamara Ousman, the UFC Walterway champ and then the BMF champ. 546 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: Jorge had some words on radio row wasn't stage, was 547 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: it not? I don't really care either way. But it's 548 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: not going to be Connor versus Joorge. It's not going 549 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: to be Connor versus Cold, but it's not going to 550 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: be Connor versus Kamaru. It's going to be Connor in 551 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: all likelihood fighting the winner of habib Toni, and for 552 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: International Fight Week it's going to be Camaru versus Jorge. 553 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: I have been over this a million times. I don't 554 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: know who else Kamorrow is supposed to fight, given who 555 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: else he has beaten in that top five and anchoring 556 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: International Fight Week. I love it. I have no problems, 557 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you I'm doubling down. Brian Campbell, 558 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: you can go first. I'm doubling down. The fight to 559 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: make is Connor versus Jorge. The fight to make is 560 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: right now. Tell me why? Tell me how you feel 561 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: about the fight now that's not not been announced but 562 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: essentially almost announced and anchoring international fight with. 563 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: Look, I get the rightful love and lust to see 564 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: Connor Jorge right now. But if you have seen, you're 565 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: sitting in that war room with the chalkboards and all 566 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: that next to Dana's office, you know, the office with 567 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: the machine gun, with the weird cocaine and all that stuff, 568 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: and you're looking at what brand means more to us? 569 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: What brand do we not want to gamble on? And 570 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: you're essentially putting Connor up here and Korge up here. Well, 571 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: it's going to go like this. So what that means 572 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: is you're more willing to gamble right now when Jorge 573 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: Mozreel's brand is at an all time level that he 574 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: could potentially go into the Zuzman fight Luke and be 575 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: one and done at the very highest level of the sport. Right, 576 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: Let's say he lost it badly He's not going away. 577 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: His brand isn't going away. But you know what I'm saying, 578 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: he has a chance if he wins the title there 579 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: to be golden. 580 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: He is a breakthrough superstar. 581 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: The reason why you put Connor and on the other 582 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: side and wait for the winner for of how Bib 583 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: and Tony is because you've got a chance for him 584 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: to not just sell big pay per views by coming back, 585 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: but if he can win back the title and stay 586 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: in line as a legitimate top fighter, you're gonna take 587 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: that chance. And putting him against Jorge, even with the 588 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: potential for two million pay per view bys, even with 589 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: the BMF title at stake, I think you're risking too 590 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: much there for Connor's brand to take a knockout loss, 591 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: to take something that just looks and feels bad when 592 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: you have in your hands this hot commodity, that forty 593 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: second knockout of Cowboy. Whatever we thought we learned from 594 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: it or not, Stephen A. Smith, Joe Rogan shouting you out, 595 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: on and on and on, it still was the greatest 596 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: infomercial ever for how hot Connor McGregor is. Again, you 597 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: put him in there against Jorge, you can damage it. 598 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: You have to have him go up against Habib, fresh 599 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: and hot. If Abie beats Tony and that rematch would 600 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: be your biggest fight. 601 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: Ever, how do you and I'm being I'm asking in 602 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: good faith, how do you not damage it? If you 603 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: wait for the Habib Tony winner all the way, assuming 604 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: Tony doesn't win, which you know, Tony's the only guy 605 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: that can. Basically, that's a very difficult fight for Habib. 606 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: And then Habib goes in there and smokes him again. 607 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Now where is he? 608 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: The reason why that works is because you still get 609 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: away with Well, Habib's the worst match up possible for Connor. 610 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 2: And now that Connor has beat now that Habib has 611 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: beat Connor, Tony and Connor in succession, oh crap, this 612 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: guy might actually be one of the greatest of all 613 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: time on top of that, and so you would close 614 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: the door on the idea of Connor McGregor being a 615 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: one to fifty five title contender being legitimate. But you 616 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: would then open the door to I'll move to one 617 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 2: seventy and move to these BMF castion opportunities that would 618 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: be closed. I believe if he goes out there against 619 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: Horey Maslong, it's stopped. The worst thing that can happen 620 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: to comrag gregor marketing wise is to get stopped Luke 621 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: to get knocked out. 622 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: He got stopped against Habib getting submitted. 623 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: It looks bad. It's different though, it's sort of like, oh, 624 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: that's a horrible style match of for him. He guessed, 625 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: I know you can do all the memes and all that. 626 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: This guy quits whenever it gets hard. But there's a 627 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: difference optically with getting going toe to toe in your 628 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: discipline and getting knocked the hell out, which is a 629 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: possibility against Jorje Masvidal. When you're talking about brands at 630 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: this highest level, when you're talking about the potential to 631 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: make fights like Connor Habib tow that could move four 632 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: million pay per view buys as Dana White is thrown 633 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: out there or three or whatever, that are just astronomically 634 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: next level. That are cultural moments that people. 635 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: It's Connor versus Masvidol, it's. 636 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: Connor versus Habib. And if you go down that route 637 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: first Luke and he loses, like I said, Habib's royalty. 638 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: Connor gets refreshed at one seventy. But if he goes 639 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: now and fights Jorge for what pay per view buys 640 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: in't a fake title. It's not the same thing. 641 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: Well, if you fight Kabeb and you lose, it's not. 642 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If the idea is that Kamaru 643 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: can only fight Jorge because there's just nobody else for him, 644 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: I actually understand that argument and I agree with it. 645 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: The math is unambiguous there when you just look at 646 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: who nobody else, it's just nobody else. So if that's 647 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: the reason you want to make it, I understand it, 648 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: and I also do think and I take it very 649 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: seriously that jorgem Maso all had a bit of a 650 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: personal rebirth through that solitude that he went through. I 651 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: take that very very seriously. Some people have dismissed it. 652 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: I do not. I think it's real and I think 653 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: it changed his mindset. On the other hand, he is 654 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: still a imperfect fighter, because every fighter is an imperfect fighter. 655 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: Kamara Usman is a bad matchup for him. That's not 656 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: to say that Jorge can't win. It's not to say 657 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: that Jorge won't win. It is to say he is 658 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: up against it. Fight metric data is clear, and your 659 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: eyes are very clear too. People who can spam him 660 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: with take down attempts without gassing. They are just bad 661 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: matchups for him. That is exactly what Kamara Usman. 662 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: Is an awful matchup for Connor. And that's the whole point. 663 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 2: You sit down, don't you say which brand means more 664 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: to you? Which brand? 665 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: I understand? And Connor's the biggest brand in the sport. 666 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: And we all talked about the big bump. We didn't 667 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: get to feel it because he had the one fight 668 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: against a BIB and then he was gone again. Now 669 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: that he's back, you begin to see that, Wow, he 670 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: really is the biggest star in combat sports. Fair enough. 671 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm not arguing otherwise. I just mean to tell you, Yeah, 672 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: if you want to cash in on which one can 673 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: we afford to lose more of Connor versus anybody else? 674 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: The answer is anybody else. I'm just saying, I don't 675 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: think it's as detrimental to Connor to be up at 676 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: one seventy and fighting Jorge when he's the hottest where 677 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: by the way, that's still a reasonably competitive fight, Whereas 678 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Kamaru versus jogees not only a fight that Kamaru is 679 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: probably likely to win, but not win in a way 680 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: that gets anyone to really be on his side, he 681 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: might get some benefit from beating it in terms of like, well, 682 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: I beat this guy. I just mean to say, you're 683 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: just cashing in Jorgey, because that's what you should do, 684 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: because he's a top contender. Okay, fine, just don't tell 685 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: me on how great that is with the division. Don't 686 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: sell me on how great it is with potential matchups afterwards, 687 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: Just say we got to burn this because there's nobody else. Well, 688 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: not because it's the best promotional matchmaking choice. So also 689 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: the gamble that if he wins, then everyone wins, there's 690 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: that as well. Again, he can win that fight. I mean, 691 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: he could land a punch when Kamara is not looking, 692 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: and the whole game is different. Let me ask you 693 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: this though quickly, because Jay is in my ear being 694 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: don I'm not intimidated by that guy. 695 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: I don't care if he did a circle back kick 696 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: and knocked down your ryah hole once while they were sparring. Okay, 697 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: and he doesn't want that story to go public, but 698 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm here for that. He claims that Kamarrow versus Colby 699 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: we all thought had the potential to be a very 700 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: big fight. In Headline two forty five Triple header, you 701 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: know December big card. Colby didn't play the part of Colby. 702 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: The fight wasn't a dud as a build, but it 703 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: didn't have that juice. We all said, the greatest gift 704 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: for Kamaru may have been Colby, in the same sense 705 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: that Chill Sonon was the greatest gift for Anderson Silva, 706 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: who can't really talk to sort of have that foil. 707 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: Can Jorge make Camaru marketable and make this international fight 708 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: wee card which I'm sure they're going to load up 709 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: the you know, a full main card like we're used 710 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: to on these supercards. 711 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: Can that be a giant pay per view? Yeah? It can? 712 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean what you mean one million sales, million and 713 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: a half. No, I don't think it can be that. 714 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: But can it do really, really, really really well? Yes, 715 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: I think it could. 716 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: And Leon Edwards says that that little scuffle they had 717 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: Super Bowl uh stage stage. If it is, that's brilliant staging, 718 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: by the way, But I don't think it is. 719 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: Though. Well here's the thing. It's like, are they both 720 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: dudes that would do that kind of thing at Radio Row? Yes? 721 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: Would it also be above UFC to like hey guys, no, 722 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: so like either explanation is actually quite We'll say this. 723 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: Both of those guys during Connor Cowboy Week had had 724 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: media scrumps in between the you know, during that long 725 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: media day, and they were UFC security made sure they 726 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: didn't have any chance of crossing paths like they made 727 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 2: triple double shirt. They were like, I don't care if 728 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: you've got an interview with Orgate, it's got to be 729 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: off site, get him off the premises. 730 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: So the NFL doesn't realize quite what they're up against 731 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: with those two. We move on now to the next fight, 732 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: so to speak. It's coming up on Showtime this weekend. 733 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: Gary Russell, Junior, Washington d c's for one of Washington 734 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: DC's finds. I suppose defending his Featherway title. I believe 735 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: he's defending one another one' up for grabs, the IBFIBO, 736 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: one of the two is up for grabs against. 737 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: Ibo is not a recognized title. Okay, this is his 738 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: WBC on the line. 739 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Technically, there's another belt that you could win against. 740 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: This guy's name I cannot pronounce King Tug as he's 741 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: known Olympic silver medalist. This will be on Saturday and 742 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: Showtime live from Pennsylvania nine pm and the E six 743 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: pm in the West. I gotta tell you, Brian, I 744 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: actually love this fight. It's a good fight because the 745 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: criticism of Gary Russell Junior is not that he's not 746 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: talented or even a bit of a showman coming out 747 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: with the caveman bit that he's been doing the whole 748 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: crudes thing. He's actually quite talented. He is, I think, 749 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: somebody that people really want to invest in. And the 750 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: Jojo Diaz fight in twenty eighteen I think was surprisingly competitive, 751 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way, right, But in general there's 752 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: a criticism of his featherweight rain. This is the mandatory defense. 753 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: The criticism has been my man's doing just enough to 754 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: do just enough. 755 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: Oh, he's appearing once a year for that mandatory. 756 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: And he's not taking on guys that people really want 757 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: to see him in there and challenging himself and getting 758 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: after that. Now. I don't know if King Tug from 759 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: Mongolia is that guy we're gonna end up seeing, but 760 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: all indications are that he could be. This guy blew 761 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: through the ranks to get to this spot much easier 762 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: than folks had anticipated. As I mentioned, he's got the 763 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: amateur pedigree, and he is in all action, all business, 764 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: heavy handed kind of fighter who's not just a puncher. 765 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: He can box as well. Now I'm not saying he's 766 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: the boxer that Gary Russell Junior is, but I got 767 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: to tell you, this is the first time in a 768 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: while that I've looked at one of Gary Russell Junior's 769 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: fights on paper and I'm been like, well, okay, it's 770 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: the mandatory and in that sense, you know, he's sort 771 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: of sleepwalking through it. On the other hand, this is 772 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: just the kind of mandatory for me to go, all right, 773 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: Gary Russell, you got your hands full. 774 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: This has that potential to be one of those great 775 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: sneaky trap fights. And if there's any sort of defensive 776 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: Gary Russell, he's always had hand problems, so the time 777 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: off only fighting once a year has fully allowed him 778 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: to rest and be up to his best. It's not acceptable, though, 779 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty for a guy of that talent level 780 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: to only fight once a year. Him getting a fight 781 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: this early in the calendar year Luke seems to be 782 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: a smart move if he wants to fight two in 783 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: three times in a crowded division and really have the 784 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: potential to stand out at being the best. But why 785 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: you have to love this matchup. Yes, Gary Russell is 786 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: gonna have the insane speed advantage. His hand speed is 787 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: off the charts. He puts it on you punches and bunches, 788 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: but king tug tug shot neambr if I'm pronouncing that correctly. Yes, 789 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: While he is your standard aggressive, horror heavy handed brawler 790 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: coming at you, the fact that he has that amateur 791 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: pedigree in that background, being a Mongolian silver medalist at 792 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: the twenty twelve Games shows that he can do it smartly. 793 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: He can do it in a way that can cut 794 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: off the ring and set up. And if he can 795 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: get Gary Russell Junior into a brawl, then you want 796 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: to go back and rewatch the tape of that Jojo 797 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: Diaz fight where Russell dominated early but then tried a 798 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: bit too hard to get Diaz out of there, and 799 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 2: suddenly that became a real fight for a few rounds. 800 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 2: This is a very interesting spot because if Gary Russell 801 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: Junior can dominate and really set the pace in the 802 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: tone and control the control the terms of the fight, 803 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 2: this could be a spectacular win that would lift him 804 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: to fighting two or three times this year, and he 805 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: can hear him in the past year. Finally call out 806 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: the big name. Say I want Leo, I want Jervonte, 807 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: I want anybody around my weight class. I'll go up 808 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: to thirty five if I have to. Those are the 809 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: words you want to hear from a guy this talented, 810 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: but you got to get through this test first. And 811 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 2: King tug I know that may have been your nickname 812 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: in high school some lonely nights lay in the bathroom, 813 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: King Tuggy, this is just his tenth pro fight. This 814 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: is one of those guys who is daring to be 815 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: great right now, is not going to be afraid, is 816 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: going to empty that tank. We could see some interesting 817 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: theater when we know what could be at stake in 818 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: the future. Jojo Diaz, the f four mentioned guy this 819 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: past Saturday, I'm sorry this past Thursday on his own 820 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 2: in Miami one a time from Tevin Farmer survived a 821 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: really vicious cut. 822 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: Albeit somewhat controversially. 823 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: There's business to be made in and around twenty six. 824 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: There's a lot of fun fighters. A lot of them 825 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: have moved up to one thirty right around there. You 826 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: want to see a lot of big names get together. 827 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: Gary Russell needs to be in that conversation. We need 828 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: to find out how great it could be. Luke just 829 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: that one loss to Vassili Lomachenko. 830 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: He showed incredible hard what a majority decision, and he. 831 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: Hung in there and really took some heavy shots and 832 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: kept coming. 833 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: But the problem is since then he just has not 834 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: put his foot on the gas. Two more notes about 835 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: that event. By the way, Germal Riggindeau was back against 836 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: Lemorreal Solis. Oh yeah, so apparently Riggandell wants to like 837 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: change the way another guy who lost the Limachenko and 838 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: then everyone was kind of like fuck this guy because 839 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: he kind of kind of quit I think again. People 840 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: got the whole stephen A Joe Rogan thing one being like, 841 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: oh you can't say a fight or quit, Well you 842 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: can when they there's good evidence that they did. 843 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 2: And he moved up two way classes for that one. 844 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: He realized he's older, he's like thirty seven, thirty nine. 845 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: He gave a note, he gave a fu to the media. 846 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: He was just basically like, you want to say all 847 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 2: these bad things about me, here you go. 848 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: I'm walking away, So like you can say it when 849 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: there's enough evidence to conclude that it's just Steven is 850 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: totally out of his depth. The point being on this 851 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: one is that's another element to this card. Secondly, I 852 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: would say I always love these time off fighters because 853 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: you're always like, ooh, Floyd took a lot of time off, man, 854 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: he might be rustling, and then he comes back and 855 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: just schools these fools right. On the other hand, there 856 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: are other fighters who take time off and they don't 857 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: have their time and they don't have their rhythm. And 858 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: also I also get the sense with Gary Russell Junr 859 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: a little bit maybe he is taking time off for 860 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: the hands and for other issues. He's a little bit complacent. 861 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: He's a little bit like, I'm just better than these guys. 862 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not training hard. That's not what 863 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think is a serious professional. On the 864 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: other hand, mentally, if you just know that all you 865 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: have to fight is the mandatory, guys, are you really 866 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: geared up to the right frame of mind if you're active? 867 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: I suppose it doesn't really matter too much if you're 868 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: inactive and you have to come back just with a 869 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: mandatory against a guy whose nickname is King Tug for 870 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: crying out life just the masturbader in chief. What are 871 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: you really going to do? So to me, it's gonna 872 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: be very interesting to see how he manages that time 873 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: off against the challenger who has all the hunger. 874 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: And shout out to old Reriggandow because's where we're at 875 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: right now. He's got a title fight against Liborrio, so 876 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: least in that comin event, Old Riggandhal at what thirty 877 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: eight thirty nine, he's lost just enough of a step 878 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: where he's got to stand in that pocket and brawl. 879 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 2: Did you see that fight with Julio? Say how that 880 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 2: was all action all the time. We've always said what 881 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: would happen when Rego finally slowed down and had to 882 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: be in there? Because he hits hard and he's you know, 883 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: he's got a flashchin. You can knock him down, but 884 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: he digs in and fights. Remember that fight he had 885 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: on New Year's Even Japan a couple of years ago 886 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: against that real tall dude. He got dropped twice, he 887 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 2: got back up and finished him. Broke the guy's face. Yes, this, 888 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: this guy's this he can he can let it. 889 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: Go with Yeah. Yeah, he's a tough bastard. So it 890 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: brings us to our last topic here. Super Bowl, as 891 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: I mentioned, brings out the controversies, brings out the fun, 892 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: brings out the personalities. According to his own it also 893 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: brings out the world tour of sadness. You've had Jake 894 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: Paul winning on Thursday against a pre diabetic gas station attendant, 895 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: and then on I don't know if it was Friday 896 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: or Saturday, but you had Antonio Brown, who is obviously 897 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: having his own issues and a number of different comp 898 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: His life is just going down the toilet rapidly, punctuated 899 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: by the fact that he had a face off with 900 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: Logan Paul. Now, I love Scott Coker. I truly believe 901 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest promoters of our generation. But 902 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: he was out there tweeting them and taking pictures with him. Now, 903 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: Coker is always smart enough. 904 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 2: Better headshot of Coker than this, Yeah, what the fuck 905 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: picture is there? 906 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: We go? Coker is smart enough to know. Like, the 907 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: truth about freak show fights, which everyone seems to get wrong, 908 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: is it's not that you can't do them. Every good 909 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: promoter does them. They just do them very sparingly. It's 910 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: a one off here, it's a one off here. Let 911 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: a few months or years go by and maybe we'll 912 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: revisit it again, usually under very different terms. They just 913 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: they flirt with it and then they kind of go 914 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: the other direction. Coker's done that, Dana White's done that. 915 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: All the big promoters in them and may have done that. 916 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: What the problem is, and this is so hilarious because 917 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: I love people explaining YouTube to me. They have seven subscribers. 918 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm not Jake Paul, but I've got one hundred and 919 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: twenty thousand that I've done by accident. I've I got 920 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of an understand of how YouTube works. 921 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: But the point being is this. They always say this 922 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: is a smart play by his own well sort of 923 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: not really. Two problems with this, By the way, the 924 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: question is how do you feel about it? Since I 925 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: didn't get to that when I started grand standing right away, 926 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: feel dirty? Keep going, Yeah, here's the problem with it. 927 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: It's not as you couldn't do the the logan Paul 928 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: versus KSI fight. You could. It's not you couldn't even 929 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: do one more. That's okay too. It's two basic problems. 930 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: One is the justifications for it are complete bullshit. Right, 931 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: This is really good for boxing. It brings new fans. No, 932 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't, and no one is talking about Demetrius Andre who. 933 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: Was who was a knockout in the main event. 934 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: With a knockout win in the main event. 935 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 2: No one is talking discussion and is not and is not. 936 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: And even though he fought in the same card as 937 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: Jake Paul, the idea that there is this halo effect 938 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. By the way, pop quiz very quickly, Brian 939 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: camp the Heimi Mungia Spike O'Sullivan fight happened after the 940 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: Jake the Logan Paul fight against Ksi? Did they sell 941 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: out there before? 942 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: No, it happened after no Logan Paul Ksi headline that 943 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 2: card the. 944 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: Logan pol headline. Do Mungia and O'Sullivan were afterwards? His move? 945 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: I think that was the same card. This is what 946 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying to you. This is what I'm saying to you, 947 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: Logan Paul Ksi happened. Then a little bit time transpired, okay, 948 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: and then the Haimi Mungia fight when he moves up 949 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: to one sixty fives, did they sell out the arena 950 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: for Mungia versus A Sullivan? Because I saw a fuck 951 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: ton of empty seats with that Golden Boy promotion. Oh 952 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: so wait, second, you mean to tell me that there's 953 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: actually either when they're on the card with them or 954 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: not on the card with them, There actually really is 955 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: no halo effect. There actually is no transference. It's a 956 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: nonsense argument that hucksters sell gullible people because they're gullible. 957 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: That's the first part about it. The second part is 958 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: there is a place for freak shows. There's a tried 959 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: and true method. But here's the problem with it. Good 960 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: promoters use them and then move away. Use them and 961 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: then move away. Bad promoters lean into them because what 962 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: ends up happening is over time that becomes associated with 963 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: your product. But if the Japanese market tells us anything, yes, 964 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: the yakuza influence obviously was dramatically bad for them, But 965 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: what we saw there was when you lean into freak 966 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: shows and that becomes the predominant interest of your product, 967 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: freak show interest doesn't last. Like, what's the long term 968 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: play for the Paul Brothers. There is none. They can't 969 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: fight for shit. Eventually, take videos at the end of 970 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: the show. That's right. Eventually that's going to end, and 971 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: when it ends, it's going to end quickly. Now, what 972 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: do you have. The whole reason Brian Campbell, and I'll 973 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: end on this one. Why they're doing it is because 974 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: they paid a ton of money to get Canelo versus 975 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: Triple G three and they can't. They paid a ton 976 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: of money to get other boxers to do things they 977 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: want to and other promoters are not working with them 978 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: and even spending money to undercut them. Now, I'm not 979 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: saying that's fair, but that's the reality. This is the 980 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: stop gap because John Skipper, who used to run ESPN 981 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 1: when you work there, has said unequivocally dezone no matter 982 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: what market it is, Germany, United States, Canada, whatever, it 983 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: can't win unless it gets the in this market, NFL, NBA, MLB. 984 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: Yes, So this is a holdover of the gateway drug 985 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: to get in there to this. 986 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: This is a holdover until then. If you think this 987 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: is a long term play, I don't know what to 988 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: tell you other than you are profoundly confused about why 989 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: they're doing this. 990 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 2: I'm just I've said it before, I'll say it again. 991 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't like mixing it together with real fight. Do 992 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 2: you want to have this be a spinoff thing that 993 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 2: Dez owned and Eddie Hern does that's fine. You know what, 994 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 2: the best thing that actually happened in this Jake Paul fight. 995 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 2: He finished that dude early. You had KSI in the ring. 996 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 2: Now they're going head to head. Now you get the 997 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 2: brother redemption angle. If you care about that, that's fine. 998 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: That may even sell out an arena, that may even 999 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 2: drive subscriptions. I just think you need to do that 1000 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 2: as its own thing, Luke, and I think you need 1001 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 2: to not be throwing these Annison Gibbs in our face. Okay, 1002 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 2: we know who the Paul brothers are. Now I get 1003 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: how many million instant you know, YouTube subscribers they have. 1004 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: Can't be wrong, But I don't want to see them 1005 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 2: keep going down the road of fighting other YouTubers I 1006 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: don't care about. You want to go to the root 1007 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: of Antonio Brown, you want to do an MMA fight, 1008 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: you want to get you know, Logan Palmer, then that's 1009 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 2: something a little bit new. Bellows Tour has been able 1010 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: to be a house of some of those horrors and 1011 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: get my interest right Force too. Dot A five thousand 1012 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: had that heart attack match. First guy's hard to stop. 1013 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: Even in a more noble way. You had herschel Walker, 1014 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: herschel Walker fighting Greg Nudge. It was a freak show 1015 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 2: most life versus Ken Shamrock was actually matchmaking in terms. 1016 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: Of that doesn't you can go the freak show route 1017 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: if you do it smartly. There's absolutely a market. 1018 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: For how gross do they want to go? Is this 1019 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 2: gonna end with Jake Paul versus Logan Pole? I feel 1020 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: like we're gonna end there. 1021 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: Just say what it is. They're going that route because 1022 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: the entire business plan that they had for boxing it's 1023 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: not going the way it's supposed to, and this is 1024 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: their quick fix it which will not last. Can you 1025 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: imagine people watching five fucking years of Jake and Logan 1026 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: Paul fighting? No, of course you can't, all right, which 1027 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: you can watch ten years of John Jones, you can 1028 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: watch twenty years of Floyd Mayweather because there's actual substance there. 1029 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: Would you care one time about a Paul Brother MMA debut? 1030 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: You care one time? 1031 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: Right? 1032 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably one time? Again? There is a market for it. 1033 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: But this idea that like wow, like the zones really 1034 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: smartly outthinking the rest of the public. Okay, Boomer, you 1035 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: just don't understand, dude. This is a carnal that promoters 1036 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 1: have been doing since the nineteenth century. What on earth 1037 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: are you talking about? Just because it's new to you 1038 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's new to us. Just want to point 1039 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: that out. Okay, good first round finish for Jake Baul. Yeah. 1040 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when you're out there fighting your neighbor, 1041 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: you know who's exercise consists of weeding his garden once 1042 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: a month, you know you should win. I suspect. I 1043 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: mean it looked like he was training hard. I'm sure 1044 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: he's trying. But dude, if you start boxing in your 1045 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: teens and twenties, unless you're a heavyweight fighter, you will 1046 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: not have a career. You will get fucked up real 1047 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: quick against a real fighter, and it will happen sooner 1048 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: or later if they keep trying their hand unless they 1049 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: fight MKBHD or they fight you know one of the ault, 1050 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: right donks who's out there just making videos or whatever. 1051 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm just pointing it out, this idea like they're like 1052 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: reinventing the wheel, Like, oh, this is so amazing. Okay, Rubes, 1053 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: All right, Well that in mind, let's go now to 1054 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: where you ask us questions. It's time now for dms 1055 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: with donks. Yeah, m's from dogs. I haven't been here 1056 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, eat shit, Jake, all right 1057 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: from dong because if you ask me, let's go to 1058 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: our next question or first question here. I got it 1059 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: up here, you pop the control. They gave me a 1060 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 1: weird order here, so I want to make sure it matches. 1061 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 1: Yes it does, okay, Brian Brian, Brian Campbell, Brian Ortega 1062 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: and Pons and Nibbio Santiago Pons Nibbio. What the f 1063 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: man are those two are ever going to get back 1064 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: in the octagon? What do you think? I hope, so 1065 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: I hope put out a statement this week saying I 1066 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: think he has like a hand injury. 1067 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 2: I saw him limping HFC cards ago in Vegas. He 1068 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 2: really had some commentary and I saw him limping pretty bad. 1069 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 2: There's a guy I wanted to try to find it quick. 1070 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: I can't get there quick enough. Who is all over 1071 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 2: my ig d ms every single minute? Bro Okay, it's 1072 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: at Jay Winchell. One, Jay Winchell, get out of my dms. 1073 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: But you're not wrong. No one's talking about Ponz Andnibio. 1074 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 2: The reason is because he's hurt. Yes, we want to 1075 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 2: see him back. We want to see if he's a 1076 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 2: potential sleeper at Walter Waite if he could be this uh, 1077 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: this slice into this division of all these wrestlers, I 1078 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 2: don't know. The bigger story here on the comeback is 1079 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 2: our Tega. We want to see him get back in there. 1080 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: Max hollow I know, I mean he may he may 1081 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 2: have produced a tap against Holly Berry. I hope he did, 1082 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 2: but training for that movie that they were working on. 1083 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 2: But outside of that, we haven't seen him since he 1084 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: was willing to walk through hell against uh Max Holloway 1085 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: in this division has just been flipped upside down and 1086 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 2: reloaded here now with lolkanovskan top, so many great matchups. 1087 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 2: I just want to see this guy. Bet we don't 1088 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 2: really talk about it. I'm not convinced he's not going 1089 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 2: to be wearing the belt in a year. 1090 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't talked about it. And obviously he didn't 1091 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: get he didn't have a yusata issue. He had a 1092 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, he lost that fight, was looking for the 1093 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 1: right one. Then he was supposed to come back against 1094 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: Gcreen Zombie and the Tori's acl to a degree, right, 1095 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: So it's not a yusata issue. But I'm saying, like, 1096 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, these guys who get the two year USADA 1097 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: punishments and then are gone for two years. It feels 1098 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, it feels like he's just missed a 1099 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: chunk of his early part of early to mid part 1100 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: of his prime, and it's just terribly unfortunate. And obviously 1101 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: I hope he can get back together because he's a 1102 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 1: phenomenal and amazing talent, part of that whole growth of 1103 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: the young part of the featherweight division. 1104 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 2: And seriously, not you know, I know that he's got 1105 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: the Modell sponsorship, but he a future star in the making, 1106 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: a guy who we thought was one dimensional as a 1107 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 2: submission expert and yet has really added a great striking game, 1108 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: has a tremendous gin, has a great backstory overcoming so much, 1109 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 2: you know, a bad upcreaming, bad upbringing in Los Angeles, 1110 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 2: having seen so much crap. 1111 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: But great guy too, And it's and it stands to 1112 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: reason that, like, if you're a Chase Hooper who's twenty 1113 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 1: and I think we're taking as like what twenty five, 1114 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: twenty six something like that, you're going to attract a 1115 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: younger audience. MMA always needs its younger fighters to bring 1116 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: in their generation their peers, so to speak. So it's 1117 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 1: just a loss all the way around. A full hair too. 1118 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 2: Have you ever let it go? Have you ever gone 1119 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: for it? 1120 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: No? My hair sticks out like my hair grows this 1121 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: way right, my hair doesn't grow down. 1122 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 2: Being a big death metal head, I would have thought 1123 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 2: at some point you just gave up. 1124 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: And I'm more like phil Anselmo. Did you ever own 1125 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: a trench coat? In the military, they make you wear one. Oh, okay, 1126 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: but outside of that, no, we think I'm in the 1127 00:47:59,440 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: trench coat. 1128 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: Mop Well, the music you listen to is sort of 1129 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 2: an afrodisiac for mass shootings? 1130 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: Is it? I want to go on a mass shooting 1131 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: on this fucking stage? Guy over here? This guy not 1132 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: death metal, but okay, let's go on. This is from 1133 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: uh Well, if you pronounced the X like a z 1134 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: ZoZ are one thousand. I have a question. Do you 1135 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: think there are any current beltoor fighters who are good 1136 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: enough to become champions in the UFC? If so, which ones? Well? 1137 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: First of all, patrisa pitbull might be, you know, easily 1138 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: capable of winning the UFC featherweight title. He is just 1139 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 1: a ridiculous and I I was late to that party. 1140 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: I kind of thought, well, you know, because I saw 1141 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 1: Joe Warren beat him. Did you watch Super Bowl last night? Yeah? 1142 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: Did you see all the crowd shots of the Kansas 1143 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: City fans in that the downtown area of Kansas City. Yes, 1144 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: that was where the Beltore held an event down there, 1145 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: and that was where Joe Warren wrestled pit Bull many 1146 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: many moons ago. Uh, and that's where let's see who 1147 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: is the Native American guy who Ben Askron fucked up? 1148 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: Forget his name, but it all happened down there in 1149 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: any event, So for me, producer Pipple's the obvious and 1150 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: easy answer anybody, I will. 1151 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 2: Believe that Ryan Bader has evolved to the point that 1152 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: he could be a legitimate title contender at two five 1153 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: or heavy with the UFC. 1154 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: No, No, but I do think he's better than the 1155 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: guy who fought John Jones the first time. 1156 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 2: Douglas Limo would be an answer that I would is 1157 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 2: a great one, I vp I'm very shaky on No, 1158 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 2: he would not. 1159 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: Who who's he gonna beat? That's really got over there? 1160 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 2: No, I mean, Pico's got a long way to go, 1161 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: a very long way to go. 1162 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: A j McKee seems interesting. He's still prospect you know, 1163 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: but you put him up there. Any of the women Cyborn, I. 1164 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: Was gonna say Laborg certainly, what about a Lima Le 1165 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 2: Do you think she's. 1166 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: I do think so, but I think she's still like, 1167 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: here's the thing, she became champion really early in her career, Like, 1168 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: if you talk to her, she's almost like, do I 1169 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 1: even deserve to be here? She's got a bit of 1170 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: that imposter syndrome. So I think she actually really talented. 1171 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: But I also think it's good that she's in Deltore 1172 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: because she's getting that seasoning. So give her her a 1173 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: year or two and I think she'd be very competitive. 1174 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm a little bit less convinced about that, 1175 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: so that's not no for me. 1176 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 2: Is what about in this very entertaining featherweight Grand Prix? 1177 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 2: Obviously you mentioned Pipple, anyone else? I mean, Durian Caldwell 1178 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 2: has really start. 1179 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: Caldwell when he When Caldwell is at his best, he's 1180 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: a tough out man. He's a really tough out but 1181 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 1: the problem is he's kind of flaky in that regard. Yeah, 1182 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Adam Borich just showed something that was the thing. 1183 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 1: Adam Borich is really good dude and cal Caldwell. 1184 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 2: I mean you need those losses, though, you need those losses. 1185 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah again, Patrisio Pipple is the I was the big 1186 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: one there wanat Treletta I thought pretty good about but 1187 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: he's obviously had run to a little bit of difficulty. 1188 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: Who we sleeping on anyone of that heavyweight's over there? No? 1189 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: Because they kick each other in the stick a lot. Yeah, yeah, 1190 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 1: a lot of ball, Yeah kicking. Yeah. Is ball kicking 1191 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: legal in beltiware? If not, it should be, it should be, 1192 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: it should be. Yeah. Okay, So the next one, what 1193 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: is the largest animal that France is in Ghanu? Could ko? 1194 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: It's from Riggins thirty two. That's a great question. Yeah, 1195 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: there we go. 1196 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 2: Rigg is thirty two a regular right Texas forever. 1197 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: This guy's all over our show. Yeah, what's the largest animal? 1198 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: And gun it? Could ko? Do you want to see 1199 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: something crazy? Go ahead and pick your answer. If someone 1200 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: sent this to me and I almost like ship my pants. 1201 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 2: Well spoiler alert, Luke, we're going to see based on 1202 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 2: your love for it, We're gonna see some animal and 1203 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 2: human violence and some have you seen this ship? 1204 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: All that? All that I care about it? But could 1205 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: I ghanu knock out a right. Look at the size 1206 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: of these grizzly bear paws? Yaikes? Is that not as 1207 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 1: you see it? Look at that ship? Is that not crazy? So? 1208 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he can beat a grizzly bear. 1209 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 2: I don't think he can beat a rhino or a No, 1210 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 2: I think I could it just short of a bear. 1211 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: Worry, hold on, he could beat a dog, right, Oh, yeah, 1212 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: he could beat the fuck out of a dog. 1213 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 2: What about a large catapuma attacked him? 1214 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,919 Speaker 1: Could he not get cold? I think he could see 1215 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 1: everyone else. All I remember that guy who was like, oh, 1216 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: this hiker fought back against this mountain lion and killed it. 1217 00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: And then you look at the mountain lion. It was 1218 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: like thirty two pounds. So do my daughter is twenty 1219 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:07,479 Speaker 1: five pounds? Like, you know, I don't find that impressive. Okay, 1220 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: what about the let let's let's shake things up a 1221 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: little bit. What about Francis versus a dolphin. What if 1222 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: Francis just jumped into taking the water, just jumped in 1223 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 1: to take a SeaWorld and just started laying the hammers down? 1224 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: All right? 1225 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 2: What about Francis against both Paul brothers at the same time. 1226 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: Oh, dude, I wouldn't be able to watch that fight 1227 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: with my pants on. I'd be so excited about Francis. 1228 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: I'd be king tug for that fight. Watching Francis decapitate 1229 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: those two zero's, Oh my god, that'd be the happiest 1230 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: day of my life. So that's good. And those are 1231 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: also low level primates, so you could count that they'd 1232 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: be in the primate house, those two idiots. 1233 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: The problem is if he doesn't ko these animals, he's 1234 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 2: he's getting mauled because I. 1235 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: Mean, they've all got teeth. With my dog and that 1236 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: jaws just yeah, if you could beat up, could he 1237 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: beat up? Like remember Van Dam in the one of 1238 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: those movies like took the Snake and then he was 1239 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 1: like popping it with the other hand. Was it fuck 1240 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 1: you know, hard to fuck or whatever the movie. 1241 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 2: I don't put Van Dam in that elusive group with 1242 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: the Schwarzenegger stallone segal. I think he's a step down, 1243 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 2: although I do respect that. 1244 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: Sorry we just touched. Does that mean that was almost 1245 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: tip on? That was our first but it was more 1246 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: like the Sistine Chapel where God was touching Yeah. 1247 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 2: Wow, I would say though that that sudden death you 1248 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,479 Speaker 2: know the hockey movie, although that's very I mean. 1249 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, the Kumaite one blood Sport, that's the killer. 1250 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: Well that's that's that's Hall of Fame material. But uh, 1251 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: that hockey movie I thought revived his career. But it's 1252 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: not believable though, that some martial arts master can just 1253 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 1: walk in on the Stanley Cup Finals, put on the 1254 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: goalie gear and then shut down the other team and 1255 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: win the game. That's true, that's true. That's actually been 1256 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: disproven by a five thirty eight. I'll go pick pick 1257 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:53,919 Speaker 1: an animal. I'll go the highest he could beat. I'll 1258 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: say I'll say a a A runt of the letter 1259 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: black bear. Those are the smallest bears and the bear family. 1260 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 2: You take out any skinny bodied want a deer, a 1261 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 2: kangaroo deer? 1262 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: He has a good one. You ever see that dude, 1263 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 1: that that redneck fight that deer. Once he sprayed himself 1264 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: with like the the attraction spray when the deer's were 1265 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: in heat. Hold that thoat, hold that thought. Oh yes, yes, yes, 1266 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 1: Watching rednecks get beat up by animals is my favorite 1267 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: thing in the world. All right, Next, what do you 1268 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: guys think about that barbaric foot stomp rule. I think 1269 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: it's dirty, and a lot of them fighters barely use it. 1270 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: Imagine John Jones, who's never lost a fight, gets terribly 1271 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: foot stomped on his bad toe to the point he's 1272 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 1: compromised and possibly loses. Brian Campbell, I like it. 1273 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,280 Speaker 2: I like that there's still barbaric elements in this game 1274 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 2: where uh, you know, sidekick to the knee. 1275 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: People think that's dirty. 1276 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 2: It's part of the game, you know, block it, get 1277 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 2: out of the way of it. 1278 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: It's it's I don't know, it's only dirty when John 1279 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: Jones does every other fighter does it. No one says anything. 1280 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 2: You know, you're Professor Salt and Pepper. A little spoiler 1281 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 2: alert on your dissected This week there's the cheese grater 1282 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 2: against the I love things like that where you can 1283 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 2: use elements of the fight game that brings me back 1284 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 2: to the early UFC fields. Luke like we just bleed. 1285 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 2: It's still real with me, dammit. I still have that 1286 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 2: hook back to the early days where I know it 1287 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 2: needed to be sanitized and cleaned up. In the game 1288 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,919 Speaker 2: is real martial arts and it's real fighting, and there's 1289 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 2: commissions and all that. But I still love that outlaw 1290 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 2: feel and having these rules in there. I don't need 1291 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 2: soccer kicks, you know what I'm saying. I don't necessarily 1292 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 2: need twelve to six elbows, although it's a little ridiculous 1293 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 2: to ban that when you can do so much other stuff. 1294 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, the question is self contradicting. I think it's 1295 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: dirty and a lot of EMMY fighters barely use it. Well, 1296 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: if the fighters barely use it, what does that tell 1297 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: you it's not especially effective. Yes, you've never seen a 1298 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: high level fighter lose a fight or even really be 1299 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: affected by it, because it's a waste of time. Yeah. 1300 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: People are always like, welly don't they just titty twist 1301 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: each other? Yeah, it's not you know, why don't you 1302 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: just tickle someone in jiu jitsu? Because it doesn't work? Yeah, 1303 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: why don't you just check their oil? Actually, I think 1304 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: there's rules against that. That. Well, that's when you start 1305 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: to get weird. Yeah, of course, of course you the 1306 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: you know you would you would go that direction. So yeah, 1307 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: the answer is leave it. And also, here's the thing. 1308 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: I like certain techniques that are just mean. I like 1309 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: the ones that are just a little bit mean. It's mean, 1310 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: but covering their their but it doesn't work very well, 1311 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: so who cares? All right? Last one? Uh, this is 1312 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: from Tylareans. If you both happened I'm gonna read it 1313 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: as they wrote it. If you both happened to be 1314 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 1: professional fighters and had the opportunity to give each other nicknames. 1315 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Lord, oh God, I know what you're gonna 1316 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: call me? What would they be? And why? I'll let 1317 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: you go first, Brian. 1318 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 2: So many directions I can go here, Luke, I wish 1319 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 2: I was prepped on this. 1320 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: You know, you have a choice here. You have a 1321 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 1: choice to say something nice and cool, or you have 1322 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: a choice to be a little So which choice are 1323 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 1: you going to take? Here? 1324 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 2: What do you want me to call you? The the 1325 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 2: stupe Professor, Luke Thomas? 1326 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, something you could call me like 1327 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 1: the DC Strangler or something. I don't know. That's kind 1328 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: of man, I can get behind that, right yeah, I 1329 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,959 Speaker 1: mean it doesn't make any sense, but we're just giving 1330 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: you the nicknames. Why not? All right? I like the 1331 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 1: Dutch Oven, Luke Thomas. That's kind of. 1332 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 2: Because I always imagine every time I walk on a plane, 1333 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 2: triggering my way, I just imagine you crop dusting the 1334 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 2: whole first class section. 1335 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: So the whole first class buddy, I'm landing planes because 1336 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: of coronavirus. Right, what would we call you like Brian 1337 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: the bus stop masturbator Campbell? Oh that's not fair? 1338 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 4: Is that the direction we go? That's not nice or fair? 1339 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,959 Speaker 4: You know, Prince Tug? I mean where we going, Prince Tug. 1340 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 4: That's a great one. I don't know have you ever 1341 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 4: thought about, like, what does your friends call you? 1342 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: In high school? Everybody in my size loser and face. 1343 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: Everybody in my. 1344 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: Hometown of Noggs, Connecticut, from third grade through age twenty 1345 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 2: eight when I moved out. 1346 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: Called me soup. 1347 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 2: Jesus, that's a sad nick to the level that there 1348 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 2: are generations of people who didn't know I had a first. 1349 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: So why did they call you soup? Because you sat 1350 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: alone eat soup all the time? Probably because my life 1351 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about me being the trench cope Maffia. 1352 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 2: Probably because my last name is Campbell. I don't know 1353 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: if you could get that connection any. 1354 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: Well, you grew up with some zero's. 1355 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up in a factory town, Luke, 1356 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 2: and I'm damn. 1357 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: Yah, it's showing. It's showing all right, let's give a 1358 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: nickname to you, Brian Campbell. Yeah, but see, you don't 1359 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: want to do the thing where it's like, you know, 1360 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: Curtis Razor Blades or you know what I mean, the 1361 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: thundering turd. That's a decent one. Okay, it's a decent one. Yeah, 1362 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: you know what. I like that. It's a little bit. 1363 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: But you give the Brazilian way. You gotta Why don't 1364 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: we know, no, why don't we just call you fat 1365 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: Lance bass. 1366 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 2: Those Yeah, yeah, that is that is uh my Wade. 1367 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: Nick names work is someone's got to give it to you. 1368 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: You know that happens in jail too, Yes it does, 1369 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: but they're very different nicknames are With that in mind, 1370 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: speaking of jail and weird jokes, it is your turn. 1371 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 2: Hey, it's time for us to span the globe for 1372 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the ugly and combat sports. 1373 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,439 Speaker 1: It's time, Luke for have you seen this shit? Luke? 1374 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: I know it's always dick jokes and people getting knocked 1375 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 2: the fl How about some good news for once to 1376 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 2: start the show. Do you remember paralyzed X heavyweight boxer 1377 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 2: Maguma Abdu Salamos, who's the guy in New York, New York. 1378 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 2: He lost that fight to Mike Presdent twenty thirteen, was paralyzed. 1379 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: He has made a miraculous comeback to the point that 1380 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 2: he can communicate with his family. And this is him 1381 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 2: in the gym, actually working out and hitting the pads. 1382 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: If you're not touched by this, having known even a 1383 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 2: you know, a smidgen of his story, this is amazing. 1384 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: He's a you know, good for him, a dad, a husband, 1385 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 2: and I love to see this. 1386 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: Luke. Well he wasn't. I mean, I don't know if 1387 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: he was expected to survive. No, he was not, much 1388 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: less him getting into some degree of mobility. 1389 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 2: Yes, him getting to this level where he can actually 1390 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 2: talk and communicate is a massive miracle. So when I 1391 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: saw this, I was good for him, very moved by that. 1392 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 2: All right, now to the fun ish Are you ready here, Luke, 1393 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 2: You're a big star. 1394 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is gonna be a morbid 1395 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: turn if you're making you're a big star. 1396 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 2: Wars guy watched Floyd Mayweather, five time champion used the 1397 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,919 Speaker 2: Force to close that door. 1398 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: You like that? I like that more than the Force 1399 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Away or the Return of the Rise of Skywalker. 1400 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 2: Look at Floyd, he just just has to just has 1401 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 2: to wiggle the fingers there and people in. 1402 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's he doing with the left hand. 1403 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 2: It's like you in college. You'd wiggle the fingers and 1404 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 2: all the doors would close for potential hook cups. 1405 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Right, it's terrible thing. 1406 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 2: Not terrible, right, all right, that's not actually the best 1407 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 2: use of the force in public. Have you ever heard 1408 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson? Watch him use the 1409 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 2: force on this camera? 1410 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, former mayor of London. 1411 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, check that out again. Look you just leave 1412 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 2: the Yeah, yeah, let's get the hell out of here. Yeah, nice, 1413 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 2: done right there, All right, let's see some violence here. 1414 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 2: I like slam Ko's you. 1415 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Know, don't let the boys be boys, right, yes, slam. 1416 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 2: This is from Cage Steele in England. Oh my god. 1417 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Wow, he's doing the whole bit like he's reaching out 1418 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 1: there for someone's you flip them off afterwards. 1419 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's never gonna see again. 1420 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: How do you come back from that? Watch his knee 1421 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: touch his nose, his nose. Watched himself watch the knee touch. 1422 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 2: The Oh my god, that is. 1423 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: That's actually how you passed the guard. Henzl Gracie always 1424 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 1: talks about it. 1425 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 2: That is violent. 1426 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: As he always says, if you're gonna pass with the 1427 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 1: pressure pass, the rule of thumb is make him smell 1428 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 1: their own knee. 1429 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 2: It start wow. It started making me, uh, you want 1430 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 2: to smell my finger? They started making me up. 1431 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: You can't. I can't bring up any any like sense 1432 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: like hearing or sight or smell without you sexualizing in 1433 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: the most word weird way. You have therapy session. Did 1434 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: you have conversations with your kids like this? You just 1435 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: take it out on me. 1436 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 2: Look, this is how you seen this shit. It's wild. 1437 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Anything can happen. 1438 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 2: I started wondering if that's the nastiest k I've ever seen? 1439 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 2: Shot out rampage a couple of times. Look at this 1440 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 2: throw back to twenty sixteen. Do you remember this from 1441 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 2: legacy Gerald Harrison, This man to Hell looke, that's still violent. 1442 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 2: That still gets me. 1443 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: It's only cad. 1444 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 2: In fact, the man who sent this in at Skeleton 1445 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Mitch on Instagram, he said this is a five star 1446 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 2: hotel with complimentary breakfast in Hell courtesy of Gerald Harris. 1447 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 2: Look at that. 1448 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, when they're looking off into the sunset, that's when 1449 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: you know that it went badly in their brain. Man, 1450 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: that's a pro wrestling move. That's a finish right there. 1451 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: It's just so weird that you can't punch to the 1452 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 1: back of the head but you can slam them to 1453 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: the back. 1454 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 2: Of the Yeah, they call that a sitout power bomb 1455 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 2: and pro wrestling. Oh and look at he gave him 1456 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 2: like the you know, peace out right, He gave him 1457 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 2: the the deuces. 1458 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: He chucked the deuce. Wow, I can't say I'm forty 1459 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: all right, Hey, Luke, you ever heard of UFC veteran 1460 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Clay Collared. 1461 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Yes, lost boxing once, lost to Max Halloween in twenty fourteen, 1462 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 2: big upset of unbeating prospect Raymond Guihardo. This past weekend. 1463 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: He actually looked pretty good too PBC. 1464 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 2: On Fox in Beau Ravage in Biloxi. Our friend Ray 1465 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 2: Flores on the call. So in round one it was 1466 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 2: while both guys hit the canvaas. But Collard comes back 1467 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 2: in round two and just gives it to this guy 1468 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 2: Guhardo and stops him in a massive Collared years ago, 1469 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 2: I think he had like a one to four record 1470 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 2: in the UFBC. He did poorly, but Loudabella tweeted at 1471 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 2: him and was like, hey, call me. I want you know, 1472 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 2: I'll put you on one of my cars. By the way, 1473 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 2: did you see the post fight in ring interview? No, 1474 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,919 Speaker 2: Guhardo did the old Macy Barber bit where like they're 1475 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 2: interviewing the Winter and he just comes over and he's like, 1476 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody forst Griffin Steele moment. 1477 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not great, Bob, not nice upset right there? 1478 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 2: All right here, I was in Disney World over the weekend, 1479 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 2: but this actually took place on the Vegas Strip. You 1480 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,439 Speaker 2: see this brawl. Look at Minie Mouse. 1481 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: Look at that right hand right there, bron Mouse went 1482 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: to work on this. 1483 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Look even Nicky got hit. 1484 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Did you see that doesn't stop moving? See the big 1485 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: big red there from uh she she stopped then. 1486 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 2: To get full mount? I mean, will you let Mini 1487 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 2: Mouse give you full mount? 1488 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: Right? That is just wow? 1489 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 2: Kind of looked like their their their honeymoon. Right? 1490 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: That was? What was that Disney movie is called like 1491 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the Wild where the girl has red hair? Is that 1492 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: what it's called the cartoon? I don't I don't know. 1493 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: I don't have Disney Plus yet. All right, but do 1494 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: you saw Mandalorian? Yeah? What's it called Illegally? But brave, brave. 1495 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: It's like it's like the overweight brave version. 1496 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 2: Let it go, right, can't hold me back anymore? 1497 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: But did you understand if you have this job, you've 1498 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: seen these dogs in. 1499 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 2: Times squad and gross. 1500 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also like, dude, that's like that's a job 1501 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: that will I mean, you know, if that's not rock bottom, 1502 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty close. 1503 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 2: Look at Mickey get that hook. 1504 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Wow. Well, here's the thing. These are not people to 1505 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: play with. She fight a security guard? So what actually? 1506 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 2: Ye do this? 1507 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: What started this? Who knows? But the point being is due. 1508 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: These are people down on their luck who have tough jobs. 1509 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Don't mess with them. Yeah, don't mess with them. 1510 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 2: Speaking of that, random street fights, people are bringing MMA 1511 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 2: moves now into street fights. You want to check out 1512 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 2: this one. Watch this spinny shit all that's a trained 1513 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 2: person and then watch what happens next. That's what's your 1514 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 2: favorite superheroes. That's a trained person. That is a I'm 1515 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 2: not saying an expert, but these are relatives here. 1516 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: What's going on here? Are you being racist again? 1517 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 2: People have different cultures, can fight outside, Yeah. 1518 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: They're sure list fighting in a brickyard. You didn't pick 1519 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: it because you thought it was a regal environed. 1520 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 2: I didn't even mention coffee or cocaine. 1521 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, God, you're so racist. First 1522 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 1: of all, watch watch when he does a spinning back kick, 1523 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: he looks around. Look so how he looks first. Yes, 1524 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 1: that's a trained person. Everyone who's never been trained, they 1525 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: just throw their body around. But you have to look. 1526 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: You have to see what you're throwing at. If you don't, so, yeah, dude, 1527 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: this is basically some old man. You know, I've noticed 1528 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: I like it when animals beat up humans. You like 1529 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 1: watching young people beat the elderly. That is your favorite thing. 1530 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 1: This is like the fourth Week where you're like, yo, 1531 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,919 Speaker 1: watch this old guy get hit by al All right, hey, 1532 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: this is Luke's favorite time. 1533 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 2: Now it's man against beasts. Do we start out here? 1534 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 2: Redneck versus a deer? Is this one you were talking about? 1535 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 1: See? This is animal abuse. But if the dude gets 1536 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 1: sucked up about. 1537 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 2: It, God, look at that rights and left. This guy's 1538 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 2: getting off. 1539 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 1: Yes, this loser out of there. 1540 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 2: You're saying he sprayed the the. 1541 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Uh this is not the one. So the one I 1542 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 1: saw was actually in the field. This is like his 1543 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 1: friends clowning him. 1544 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 2: Oh, and you've seen this one making the rounds. Look 1545 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 2: at this. 1546 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: No, I'm not do house cats. 1547 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 2: Lilia this. This cat's got gotten m in my background. 1548 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 2: Look you you messed with. 1549 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 1: The cat is clearly annoyed. 1550 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 2: Oh what's this? Hammer fist? Hammer fists trying to is 1551 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 2: that Holly Holm? 1552 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 1: What is going on? Mittens? Look at mittens. Welcome Mitten's patient, 1553 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: patient patient. 1554 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 2: What that cat does does not fight like a pussy. 1555 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yep, and I said stay off me 1556 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: and clean. 1557 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 2: My litter box already. I love that ship all right. Hey, 1558 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 2: speaking of animal and human violence, you want to see 1559 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 2: this one of this guy against a cow. Watch this. Oh, 1560 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 2: this is utterly ridiculous. Look you're seeing this. 1561 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, milk was a bad choice. 1562 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 2: Luke, what is going on right now? Can I get 1563 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 2: any comments out of you? 1564 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Luke? The exit is that way? Oh? 1565 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 2: Keep it going, Jay, keep it going. It gets better. 1566 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Look at this tombstone. It's not over yet though. This 1567 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 2: guy's still Oh wow, laugh it up. 1568 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: Cow. You are in desperate need of You are in 1569 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: desperate need of psychological intervention. 1570 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 2: He did, he did, speaking of he did break out 1571 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 2: the titty twister in there? Do you see that the nipplenook? 1572 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: How did you find this? 1573 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 2: It found me, Luke? If it obviously found me? Look 1574 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 2: at this matrix style? 1575 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Right, so this must have been made relatively recently. 1576 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Is that milk that that's getting shot? 1577 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 1: Which secretion? Is that? Luke? All right, we can get 1578 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 1: off that. 1579 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,640 Speaker 2: We do have one more potential human uh, presidential candidate 1580 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 2: Mike Bloomberg shaking hands in Okay? 1581 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:43,439 Speaker 1: Why was this so caught? 1582 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 2: Moles? What is going on? What is it with presidential 1583 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 2: candidates putting their hands where they shouldn't you give? Just 1584 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 2: grab her by the biscuits? I have a dog. I 1585 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't greet the dog by putting my hand in the 1586 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 2: in the. 1587 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Watch the dog's mannerisms. The tail never stops and he 1588 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: just yawns and he's cool. 1589 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 2: Who shakes a dog by the grizzle hair? 1590 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean this year? Here's my point, nobody, but here's 1591 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 1: the thing. And Bloomberg sucks. But here's the thing. What 1592 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: is the whole point of having a dog if you 1593 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 1: can't greet it like a Monty python sketch? Isn't the 1594 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,959 Speaker 1: whole point that you can rough it up and play 1595 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 1: with its ears and shake its snout and make a 1596 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 1: dance with you. That's the whole point of having because 1597 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,600 Speaker 1: you can't do that with the cat. We saw what 1598 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 1: happens with the cat. Cat says I, having none of that. 1599 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: The whole point about getting a dog is a dude, 1600 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 1: a dog is basically a loyal, stupid friend. Why not 1601 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: get Why not? 1602 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 2: Are you defending Bloomberg here? 1603 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Yes, you're this is not a big deal. Have I 1604 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 1: ever done that? I've never done that. 1605 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 2: But what is your hand in a dog's mouth that 1606 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 2: you've never met? 1607 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 1: Like? Oh, blow it up, Jay, one more time? Blow 1608 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 1: it up Jay. He doesn't put his hand in the mouth. 1609 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: He grabs his skin along. 1610 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 2: Met my wife, honey, bend over like, I mean, like, 1611 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 2: where are we going with this? 1612 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: He didn't put it in any other orifice other than 1613 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: the mouth. Don't be weird. Don't be weird. I know 1614 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: you're weird. Don't be weird. Resist the urge. 1615 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,760 Speaker 2: Oh, this is air defense from you. 1616 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 1: It's not, dude, This is a This is a bunch 1617 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 1: of people claiming to like, not like a thing. That's 1618 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,679 Speaker 1: not a thing. People all the time like I'm scared 1619 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 1: of clowns. No, you're not all your friends in school 1620 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 1: said that you just continue it because you don't want 1621 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 1: to be different. I'll be different. There's nothing wrong with this. 1622 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 1: Having a dog is all about being able to rough house. 1623 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 2: I've see I've been bitten by many a dog. I 1624 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 2: would never, for an opening move go in there. 1625 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's like, well, some of us have better 1626 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: relationships with dogs. 1627 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 2: Everyone crocodile dal Dundee wanted to find out who he 1628 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 2: was talking to, and he just went right underneath and grab. 1629 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: You can't do that. Yes, that was transphobia of the 1630 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. You can't just put your hand in 1631 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 1: a dog's mouth. Yes you can, Yes you can if 1632 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 1: a dog is mild mannered. And you're like me, I'm 1633 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 1: like Caesar Milan. You know. I go in there and 1634 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: I just dominate the space. I can do whatever I want. 1635 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 2: I can't wait for your your parenting years to evolve. 1636 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: I've got two dogs, bro, You at like I've never 1637 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: done this before. 1638 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 2: It's going to be a great case there, bro. 1639 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 1: I go in there with my dogs and I let 1640 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's one alpha in the pack. 1641 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 2: So you can put your hands anywhere, is what you're saying. 1642 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't molest my dogs. I'm simply saying. 1643 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 2: That this is the opening green. 1644 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 1: The only thing wrong with this greeting is that it's 1645 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: unusual and goofy. Other than that, there's no problem. And 1646 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: the whole point about having a dog is that you 1647 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,800 Speaker 1: can be goofy with it. 1648 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 2: Hey, you want to do some head kicks from hell? Yes, 1649 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 2: here's volume one. Check out this capaera kick from Ali 1650 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 2: Flint at shock in aw uk shout out you at 1651 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 2: Simon Gallagher thirteen for some is that kick? 1652 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it be jump man eight eight eight seven 1653 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 1: seven seven five five. 1654 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 2: I mean that's perfection, Luke. 1655 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, when they bounce off the canvas like that, that's 1656 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 1: pretty great. 1657 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 2: Oh yes, all right, I got another one here. It's 1658 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 2: an insane Falloway kick. 1659 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Luke. 1660 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,519 Speaker 2: Watched the guy in the Red Schwartz. He's tweaking on 1661 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 2: a whole new level gfunk step to this. 1662 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 1: I dare you? Wow? Oh? Is he going to testify 1663 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: in church? Let's see? Does he testify? No? 1664 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:49,599 Speaker 2: Here? 1665 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Hold this? Do you know testifying in church? Yes? I do, 1666 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 1: I do. We've been through this on when the head 1667 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: flops back and in the hands we got but. 1668 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 2: Have you seen this before they catch the kick and 1669 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 2: they basically just turn it into like a switch kicks 1670 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 2: and any pettis. I mean, that's that's fantastic. 1671 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Oh, you know it's kind of similar. Do you remember 1672 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 1: who is andre Berto's brother, Edson Berto? Yes? Remember Edsen 1673 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 1: Berto got hit with that knee from Eves Edwards. So 1674 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: Eves kicks Edsen Berto. Edson catches it and they're kind 1675 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 1: of holding the leg, and out of nowhere, Eves just 1676 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 1: jumps in while the leg is caught and knees ets 1677 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 1: it in the face. It's kind of similar to that. 1678 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,599 Speaker 2: Know. Andre Berto's late father was an alternate at UFC 1679 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 2: ten in the tournament. 1680 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 1: I did know that. 1681 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 2: I thought, uh, in the and then off TV bout and. 1682 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 1: Then those Berto is a tough bastard. Yeah, but if 1683 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna show great head kicks. 1684 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 2: Jay had to add this in due to his history 1685 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 2: sparring with Uriah Hall. You remember this from twenty thirteen. Good, 1686 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 2: this is this guy's name, Adam Sella more like Adam Hella. 1687 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 2: You've been sent directly. Wow, it's I mean, it's look, 1688 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 2: what is that some street fighter stuff going on? 1689 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 1: Oh? No, that was a nice ko though. 1690 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, thank you j for the hot duken. 1691 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,760 Speaker 2: This was probably the scariest thing I've ever seen. 1692 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I've seen scarier KOs than that. You ever seen 1693 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,680 Speaker 1: felony fights? No, I don't. I don't dip that far 1694 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:02,120 Speaker 1: down the field Reddit, I regret it. So I've seen 1695 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 1: some pretty nice. 1696 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 2: Hey, you know what has given us a lot of 1697 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 2: fun on this show? And have you seen this ship 1698 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 2: through the years? Punch machines, you know those things. 1699 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 1: At the ark. 1700 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Let's go to some Europeans here. Well, this guy's not European, 1701 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 2: but I don't know if he'd be ping for look 1702 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 2: at he very could be. 1703 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Let's not turn the show into Honord guy is Europeans. 1704 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 2: You see how badly this guy missed this, Luke. Lookay 1705 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 2: watch me, I'm gonna go fisting. Oh man, yikes. 1706 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: Going to go fisting. How did I get suck with 1707 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 1: you again? 1708 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Okay, hey, that's that's uh. Let's move on. 1709 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 1: Let's see more people embarrass themselves. 1710 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,600 Speaker 2: Look at this Father of the Year. He put his 1711 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 2: kid on Queer Street and. 1712 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 1: You didn't even know it through Just wait, wait, wait, 1713 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm not what hits the kid. I'm the following through 1714 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 1: with the right hand. No, the left and left elbow. 1715 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 2: The left elbow is a spinning back elbow. Oh man, 1716 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 2: bro that poor little kid, he's checking his score though. 1717 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: You got to give that dad credit for commitment. We can. 1718 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 2: Let's bring in a European old lady. How do you 1719 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 2: think this is gonna end? 1720 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: Luke badly? 1721 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's check this out. Jay in the back. If 1722 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 2: you got it, Oh wow, you hit it right in 1723 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 2: the tooth, Luke. 1724 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, I thought you know it gonna be honest. 1725 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: I thought when she rolled up on camera, I'm like, 1726 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 1: something is about to pop out. Yeah, and yeah, I 1727 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 1: don't mean her shoulder. It would have hit the ground too. 1728 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 1: This is not And I was glad that that's not 1729 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 1: what happened. 1730 01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we got one more for you. 1731 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: Ah. 1732 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,800 Speaker 2: That's not how you do it. That is not how 1733 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 2: you do it, Luke. Yeah, yeah, that's enjoy that concussion. Wow, 1734 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,680 Speaker 2: all right, maybe he set the record on the machine. Hey, Luke, 1735 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 2: we made it through all the way through. 1736 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,960 Speaker 1: Have you seen the ship? Wow? With no no stick, 1737 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: no dongs. 1738 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 2: We gotta get going. It's to odds and endsta what 1739 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 2: is no? No? 1740 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,719 Speaker 1: What is this? Shotgun? And bang? 1741 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 2: What's up? With that thing. I want to know, how 1742 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 2: does it hang? 1743 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: Luke? I didn't. 1744 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:57,720 Speaker 2: This is no Jay, no, no good ball movement on 1745 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 2: that though. Right, it's like the seventeen New York Knicks. 1746 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 1: Who hurt you? Old Marietta, who hurt you? Yeah? By proxy? Yeah? 1747 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 1: How are you? How are you this old and this 1748 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 1: enamored with Dill doos? Yeah? 1749 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,600 Speaker 2: Well you know, I'm a man of the people. This 1750 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:13,640 Speaker 2: is what the people want, all right. 1751 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't. 1752 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't write this ship, you know. Just all right, 1753 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 2: thank you, those are your viewers. Okay, time for odds 1754 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 2: and ends. I will go first. Super Bowl was yesterday. Yeah, man, 1755 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,759 Speaker 2: I have to tell you you got some hot takes 1756 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 2: for me. 1757 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: No. I thought it was a I have to tell 1758 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 1: you most of the time, the game is not that 1759 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 1: great or it's a bunch of teams I don't give 1760 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 1: a shit about. The commercials are overrated, the halftime act 1761 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,760 Speaker 1: is some lame ass whatever the hell, and it ends, 1762 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, that was another four hours of 1763 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: my life wasted. I thought the game was a little 1764 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 1: bit slow at first, but picked up pretty great. Great game. 1765 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 1: I thought the halftime show was great. The commercial I 1766 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 1: know I just. 1767 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,559 Speaker 2: Know I'm racist somehow because I didn't like the halftime show. 1768 01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:58,719 Speaker 1: I mean, who does it? 1769 01:14:58,840 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 2: Like? 1770 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,839 Speaker 1: How on I married a Latin woman? So like, obviously 1771 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 1: they're my weakness. Okay, guilty is charged? Who how I 1772 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 1: just gay or straight? How could you watch that? If 1773 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,719 Speaker 1: King Tug and I were watching it together? 1774 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 2: But it would have been fantastic there, but you know 1775 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 2: with my wife, my kids just gone down to bed. 1776 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 1: Suddenly there's your kids. If they had watched the whole thing, 1777 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 1: they would have their twelve Yeah, that would have been 1778 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 1: an education, buddy. They're going to start sprouting under arm hair. 1779 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 1: Yeah after that. Yeah, you're welcome, Shakiro. I mean anyway, 1780 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 1: the point being is, I thought the halftime show was great. 1781 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 2: By the way, how many people googled age of both both. 1782 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: Forty three and I think fifty? Wow? Pretty? I mean, dude, 1783 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 1: Shakira has been like shaking her hips since I was 1784 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 1: in college. Bro, Like unbelievable. It's still not lying exactly. 1785 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 1: And then I thought, Shreeper, come out on, hold on. 1786 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,840 Speaker 1: And then I thought the commercials were not bad, the 1787 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,639 Speaker 1: whole Aquaman benching, the bar thing. I was moved by 1788 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 1: the commercials this year I did not like the one 1789 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 1: who's the country western guy who did the dance off 1790 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 1: with Little nas X for the Doritos. 1791 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,759 Speaker 2: Sam who Sam Elliott from Sam. 1792 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Elliott from UH was like, dude, Sam Elliott would not. 1793 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Lose from this swayzy movie, the yeah, what do you 1794 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 2: call it? 1795 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,080 Speaker 1: The Samue would not lose this the bar with the bar, 1796 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 1: the double down, what's it call? 1797 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:09,559 Speaker 2: What's the dame? 1798 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 1: But the hun day who parks itself? And everyone was 1799 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: Captain America and everyone was doing the Boston accent. I thought, 1800 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,680 Speaker 1: you know what, the section turned out to be a 1801 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,600 Speaker 1: pretty enjoyable Super Bowl roadhouse roa roadhouse, Yes, yes, the 1802 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 1: one that Ronda ROSSI was supposed to remake. 1803 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 2: And then well not all yeah, what a I don't 1804 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 2: want to go NFL breakdown on you, but Mahomes three 1805 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 2: years in the. 1806 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 1: League, I'll say this m VP. I'll say this super 1807 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 1: Bowl Champion, and that those two drives, those are like 1808 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 1: career three drives because they came back to twenty to 1809 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 1: ten and put hung twenty one rear making moments. Yeah, 1810 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 1: he was not great up until he needed to be, 1811 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 1: and then he absolutely was and a star was born 1812 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 1: by the way to me, everyone's better at Shanahan about 1813 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 1: some of his play calling. You know, when I picked 1814 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 1: up one, tell me if you agree with this. Uh, yes, 1815 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: the timeout probably could have and should have been taken. 1816 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:54,920 Speaker 1: They didn't want to give the ball back. But the 1817 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: way he talks about it, and you know the lack 1818 01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:58,800 Speaker 1: of throws from Jimmy G. By the way of Jimmy 1819 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,880 Speaker 1: G lands that that last throw was on a third down, 1820 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 1: it's a completely different ball game. I don't think Kyle 1821 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 1: Shanahan trust Jimmy G. I think i'd explained some of 1822 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 1: the play calling. 1823 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 2: They didn't go to Kittle at all, which you think 1824 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 2: he thinks Jimmy G is more of a game manager. 1825 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 1: I think that dilfer. Yes, I think that's exactly what 1826 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,160 Speaker 1: he thinks. Wow. 1827 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,520 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Jimmy G thinks he's Tom Brady. 1828 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,400 Speaker 1: He ain't. He ain't. He's a poor man's he's not even. 1829 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that was like a Kirk Cousin's kind of performance, 1830 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,040 Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you. So it was like 1831 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 1: RG three today, type of no. RG three is barely 1832 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: can barely walk. We're gonna see RG three get beat 1833 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,760 Speaker 1: up by somebody on have you seen this ship? Because 1834 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna be elderly and then some kid is gonna 1835 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: walk there with a hammer and then you know, knock 1836 01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,280 Speaker 1: out his teeth or something, and they're gonna be like, hello, 1837 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:44,759 Speaker 1: well look at the older you get sucked. 1838 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 2: Up odds and ends on. You saw Yoanna Young day 1839 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:48,880 Speaker 2: Check's little joke on? 1840 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so funny. 1841 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't hate this? 1842 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:53,799 Speaker 1: Is it? Is? It? 1843 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 2: Is it bad taste? Yes, it's awful, But luke, do 1844 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,559 Speaker 2: you just tell me if you agree or disagree in 1845 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 2: the fight game there should still be room. 1846 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 1: For don't you dare say racism not racism? No? 1847 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 4: I guess I can't back this up advocates for racism. 1848 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 2: White against Asian superstar. Yeah, okay, I'm take me out 1849 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 2: of that that lane. I'm not in that lane. Okay almost. 1850 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:17,760 Speaker 1: You know how about this? They should be able to 1851 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 1: say mean ship to each Yes, that's my whole point. Okay, 1852 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 1: I agree. 1853 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 2: Was this bad taste? One hundred percent? I wasn't offended 1854 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 2: on the level comparative to Actually. 1855 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 1: I have a I said this in my lat Chat. 1856 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 1: I actually know some I have some Chinese friends out 1857 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 1: in town and their kid at school got bullied because 1858 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 1: kids came up to him because he was Chinese. They 1859 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 1: were like, oh, you must have the coronavirus. I'm not 1860 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 1: saying that's what you want to and j Check was doing, 1861 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: and I agree, people are gonna say mean shit to 1862 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 1: each other in this game. 1863 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 2: I just think, look, whether we're talking about the real 1864 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 2: fight game, we're pro wrestling, all of that is just 1865 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 2: such a carnival of We're watching people, you know, getting 1866 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 2: grudge matches against other and strike each other. 1867 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,000 Speaker 1: You kind of need. Here. Here's my only problem. I 1868 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,560 Speaker 1: don't what she actually said was not I didn't. I 1869 01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,679 Speaker 1: didn't think it was that big a deal. It wasn't great, 1870 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 1: but I'll like, you know whatever, people just say awful things. 1871 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 1: The problem was when she doubled down and then she 1872 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 1: held up the Chinese noodles and then gave herself the slat. 1873 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 1: She goes, oh, I love Chinese people, and then she 1874 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 1: like pulls the was the fake apology that she put 1875 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 1: out there? She did that the Chinese rewind the show 1876 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 1: taken and then uh, you know, she also told Claudia 1877 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 1: Gadilli to go back to the jungle where she belonged. 1878 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,720 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and here's the thing. The problem with 1879 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 1: the fight game is you have to allow for people 1880 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 1: to be mean to each other and to say things 1881 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 1: that bother you. But then you get to situations where 1882 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: like Mike Perry is out there like calling people the word, 1883 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, this is so clearly far past 1884 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 1: the beginning, except and then what the boundary is often 1885 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,320 Speaker 1: gets a little bit difficult to part one is obvious, 1886 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 1: one may not be. So, you know, in the end, 1887 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,680 Speaker 1: I don't think what she said the first thing was 1888 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 1: that big a deal. 1889 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:51,599 Speaker 2: He doubled down that bad. 1890 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,680 Speaker 1: Bad She ended up deleting it later, but yeah, go 1891 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,799 Speaker 1: look that up. I was like, dude, what are you doing? 1892 01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 1: In any event? But you know what, my brother said 1893 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,760 Speaker 1: this to me, and one of his friends did too. 1894 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 1: They're like, do you really expect these people to have 1895 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 1: enlightened worldviews about, you know, anything? And I'm like, well, 1896 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 1: sort of, I guess I do, you know, but maybe 1897 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 1: maybe not. I don't know. I don't know what the 1898 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 1: answer is, but. 1899 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,719 Speaker 2: I guess I just think we shouldn't burn them down 1900 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:18,120 Speaker 2: for it. 1901 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,640 Speaker 1: We should be left it just at that. To me, 1902 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,280 Speaker 1: it's that's that's what I would consider permissible territory, distasteful 1903 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,599 Speaker 1: one hundred percent distasteful is fair game if you ask. 1904 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of distasteful, it's making the rounds. 1905 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,879 Speaker 2: That video it was in Miami at what a celebrity 1906 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 2: basketball game. 1907 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 1: It looked to be on a basketball court of some kind. 1908 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 1: Going by Gionte Davis is what would you say when 1909 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,599 Speaker 1: the rising stars of boxing? It appears that his next fight, 1910 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 1: in all likelihood, after beating Ricardo Nunez and then HARRYS 1911 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 1: Cambo in his last fight in Atlanta, is all set 1912 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 1: for a bit Wellvin Farmer Tevin Farmers out of over running, 1913 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 1: but a big, a big fight on pay per view. 1914 01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 2: That could be a pay per view date with Leo 1915 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 2: Santa Cruz. 1916 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 1: We hear those rumbling. He's also like the next big 1917 01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 1: star I think in the urban community after American communit, 1918 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather has metaphorically and quite literally put his arm 1919 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 1: around him. He's like on the come up in a 1920 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 1: real way. The problem is this video surfaced in the 1921 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 1: stands where he rolls up on I don't know who 1922 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 1: the woman was, and it looked at first like he 1923 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 1: was choking her. I don't think that's what he was 1924 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: doing at all, actually, but nevertheless, he was grabbing the clothes. 1925 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 1: Let's just be honest, like almost like police escorting somebody. 1926 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I think she was the mother of one of his Uh, okay, 1927 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 1: what do you want to say about it? It is 1928 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,559 Speaker 1: an obviously horrible it's. 1929 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,800 Speaker 2: A horrible it's a horrible also, dude, in any era, 1930 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 2: in any year, it's just a horrible. 1931 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,439 Speaker 1: Look. That was brazen. Yeah, to do that in the 1932 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 1: era of social media, and then just in front of everybody. 1933 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:37,800 Speaker 1: It's one thing to be like, well, this is a 1934 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,680 Speaker 1: thing you should condemn, yeah, obviously, and another one it's like, dude, 1935 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you that you think you can just 1936 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 1: a do that to women and be in public like, no, 1937 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 1: no sense. 1938 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 2: It's a potentially awful black eye that I hope he 1939 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,559 Speaker 2: in his camp address. 1940 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah they have, they have to address it. Yeah, they 1941 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,879 Speaker 1: have to. And it's not like you owe me personally 1942 01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 1: an apology, but the world should know that. You realize, dude, 1943 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,320 Speaker 1: you can't under no circumstance could you ever, And. 1944 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 2: You just don't want to say. 1945 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 1: I saw people being like, oh, well, what did she do? Dude? 1946 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Unless she burned his family at the stake, it's irrelevant 1947 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 1: what she did. What do you mean, what does she do. 1948 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: She's a person, she's entitled to her own agency. You 1949 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 1: don't put hands on a woman like that. 1950 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 2: Ever, you hate to see that when somebody has that 1951 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 2: right of a potential, because this is somebody who's been 1952 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,120 Speaker 2: a babyface, a guy who were saying is like the 1953 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 2: Mike Tyson of the small Wave just had a guy 1954 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 2: with a giant marketable future and an ability to make 1955 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 2: such huge fights and become he's ready to make that 1956 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 2: pay per view leap. 1957 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: You want him staying on, going down a much different path. Yeah, dude, 1958 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 1: this is this is I don't think this is going 1959 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,720 Speaker 1: to end his career, and I don't think it's the 1960 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of offense that should end his career. On the 1961 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,519 Speaker 1: other hand, this is not effective behavior. This is not 1962 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:57,560 Speaker 1: effective risk management. This is terrible. And again I'm not 1963 01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 1: here to say, oh, well, you know what, that's it. 1964 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Boxing career is over. On the other hand, holy shit, dude, 1965 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,720 Speaker 1: you what was I don't know what he was thinking. 1966 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen a lot of this behavior in 1967 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 2: combat sports in the NFL. It sucks hopefully that we're 1968 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 2: at a point now where can we just wipe this out? 1969 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 1: And also social media, so I hope to and by 1970 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 1: the way, you know, hope the boxing we're addressing it 1971 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 1: on this show Boxing media should ask him about it, 1972 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,360 Speaker 1: and hopefully he has an effective answer, which is I 1973 01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,720 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking clearly. I'll never do it again, and I 1974 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,560 Speaker 1: apologize to everybody who saw that, and of course to 1975 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,680 Speaker 1: the woman involved as well. And here's the promise and 1976 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,360 Speaker 1: a guarantee it'll never happen again. Okay, all right, that 1977 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 1: would be a good first step, I think, So we'll 1978 01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:38,080 Speaker 1: see how it goes. 1979 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's the show for this week. I was in 1980 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,080 Speaker 2: Disney over the weekend. I don't want to bury that lead. 1981 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 2: My kids turned twelve, A nice little surprise getaway. 1982 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,640 Speaker 1: Have you been in Disney lately at all? Only as 1983 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:46,519 Speaker 1: a kid, not a long time? 1984 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 2: Oh okay, they've really stepped. 1985 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,040 Speaker 1: Up the ride. Did you go to the Star Wars exhibit? 1986 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 1: I did? How was it at the art? 1987 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 2: It's good at Disney's Hollywood studio. So you have to 1988 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,719 Speaker 2: get there. You have to basically wake up at five am, 1989 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,040 Speaker 2: get to the park more than an hour before it opens. 1990 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 2: They let you in the park, but only halfway. And 1991 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 2: then the second the park opens at seven, you get 1992 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 2: on your app and you have to try to get 1993 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,400 Speaker 2: a reservation for this Rise of the Resistance, which is 1994 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 2: like their super ride. They got a couple of New 1995 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,839 Speaker 2: Star Wars rides in a full area, but this one ride. 1996 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 2: If you don't get it, then that five seconds when 1997 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 2: you hit the button, you can't go on it. There's 1998 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 2: no fast pass, there's no lines. You have to make 1999 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,000 Speaker 2: it correct, and we made it. We were in the 2000 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,519 Speaker 2: tenth group, and it is like being in the movie. 2001 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 2: There's different stations, different vehicles you're traveling in, and then 2002 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 2: you're actually in the ride and it is legitimately how 2003 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,840 Speaker 2: the people that work there, they're dressed up as the 2004 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 2: Empire and they're treating you like your rebel star heard 2005 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 2: it is worth. It's worth the whole hoops you have 2006 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,160 Speaker 2: to jump through to get there. 2007 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 1: Did you boys have a good now? You tricked them 2008 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 1: because they didn't know they were going on vacation. Did 2009 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,599 Speaker 1: did Did the trickery work? It worked? It was fantastic. 2010 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 1: The surprise reveal was great. I used to not be 2011 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 1: into the stuff because I was a selfish. I'm still 2012 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of selfish, but like now that having a kid 2013 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 1: investing in their joy and their joy only I don't 2014 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,559 Speaker 1: do it to get joy back, but just watching my 2015 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,720 Speaker 1: daughter get happy with things I do for dude, like 2016 01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 1: it fills off. 2017 01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,679 Speaker 2: Even though they're twelve. So they're able to get into 2018 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,280 Speaker 2: the mode of being in the magic of Disney at 2019 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 2: a level that I never thought was possible at that 2020 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 2: age because I was too what's the word I'm looking 2021 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,679 Speaker 2: for at that age, to expose to too much, to 2022 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,680 Speaker 2: to spoil, to ruined at that point to where it 2023 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 2: even allows me, as a dad in that moment, to 2024 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 2: get into that. And I'll can tell you what Star Wars, 2025 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,680 Speaker 2: what Disney does great. They never They've never been one 2026 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 2: for out of control thrill rides. And now that I'm old, 2027 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 2: now that I'm forty one, I can't go on many 2028 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,680 Speaker 2: rides without getting affed up, like without getting legitimately like 2029 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:28,760 Speaker 2: touch drunk. 2030 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 1: Coming off of there. Do they still have Space Mountain? 2031 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,439 Speaker 2: They do, And that one hurts bad. That's about the 2032 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,599 Speaker 2: limit for me. They are making these new roller coasts. 2033 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 2: They have the Seven Dwarfs Mind Train, which is arguably 2034 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,879 Speaker 2: the best ride in all of Disney. 2035 01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,799 Speaker 1: It's so smooth, it's so perfect. 2036 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,600 Speaker 2: Anybody of any age can feel like they're in a 2037 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,800 Speaker 2: throw ride without actually but Rock and Roller Coaster at 2038 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 2: Disney Hollywood Studios, the Aerosmith Ride. 2039 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,559 Speaker 1: Still, I think the best one is expensive. Still, I've 2040 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 1: heard it thisy it's crazy to be expensive. 2041 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,600 Speaker 2: We bought park Opper tickets and yeah, it's if you 2042 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 2: don't get Amazon Prime to deliver groceries to your hotel room, 2043 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,080 Speaker 2: which we didn't do, you're doing it wrong and you're 2044 01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,120 Speaker 2: basically eating chicken fingers and burgers every single meal and 2045 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 2: then you feel gross and want to stick it, stretch 2046 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,439 Speaker 2: out a hanger and stick it down your throat and 2047 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:04,080 Speaker 2: retrieve all. 2048 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 1: The My daughter's only nine months old, so it hasn't 2049 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:06,800 Speaker 1: been thrust upon me. 2050 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, my kids hanger, so you can presas stretch. 2051 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Out you know what I'm saying? Like I turned how 2052 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: old lasting on this one because we had to move Alonge. 2053 01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 1: How old should a kid be before you take them 2054 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 1: to here's the thing? You took your kids there and 2055 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 1: they don't remember it. 2056 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 2: So until my kids have been there five times in 2057 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 2: ten years and most recently four years ago, they don't even. 2058 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,200 Speaker 1: Remember from four years money bags No, I worked at ESPN. 2059 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,000 Speaker 1: There's bags cam. 2060 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,920 Speaker 2: Look, there's a hook up at ESPN. That that the 2061 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,200 Speaker 2: people that have worked there know about. Okay, you get 2062 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,280 Speaker 2: free admission, half price at the resorts, no, thirty percent 2063 01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:40,599 Speaker 2: off food, twenty five percent off merchandise. Yeah, it's it's uh, 2064 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 2: it's next level ish. My parents live right now there too. 2065 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:44,679 Speaker 2: Didn't have to pay for hotels. 2066 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Then you got to work at ESPN and you got 2067 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,439 Speaker 1: to be a part of the problem. So yeah, there's that. 2068 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, just taking a cheap dig. All right, let's 2069 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 1: do this. Guys and ladies really appreciate you watching. Please 2070 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 1: give the video a thumbs up. They've lost some female 2071 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,720 Speaker 1: viewers along the way. 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Subscribe subscribe Morning 2097 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,839 Speaker 1: Combat with a K on YouTube? 2098 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:11,719 Speaker 2: Will we ever revealed? 2099 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Jay? 2100 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,680 Speaker 2: We ever revealed? I mean, once you open up that 2101 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 2: Pandora there, you know. 2102 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: It's like revealing a skin tag. Do you really need 2103 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,799 Speaker 1: to do that? I could just yeah, it's like revealing dandrus. 2104 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: You don't have to put your head down something by 2105 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:25,240 Speaker 1: not seeing it down. 2106 01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:26,559 Speaker 2: A bull's asked to get a good look at a 2107 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 2: tebow one steak. You know, I could just take the 2108 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 2: Butcher's word for it. You know, it's like, no, you no, 2109 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,360 Speaker 2: it's your bull. Actually I don't know what you're saying, 2110 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna move along. We have to go. I 2111 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,840 Speaker 2: have another job to go to. We appreciate you guys 2112 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 2: tuning in. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Until next 2113 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,800 Speaker 2: time they all of your games. Be loyal, Please don't 2114 01:28:40,840 --> 01:29:40,320 Speaker 2: be weird.