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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to another episode of the Action

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Speaker 1: Network NFL podcast. I am Matthew Friedman, the editor in

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Speaker 1: chief of Fantasy Labs. In with me to break down

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen fantasy football rankings that we just released

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Speaker 1: this week on the Action Network are Sean Corner and

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Speaker 1: Chris Raybond. Sewn is the Action Network Director of Predictive

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Speaker 1: Analytics and one of the top end seas and Fantasy

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Speaker 1: pros rankers for the past half decade. Chris is a

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Speaker 1: the Underscore. Odds Maker and Chris Raybond used the app

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Speaker 1: to get real time odds and track your bets. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: it's been a few weeks since we last talked. We've

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Speaker 1: The MLB regular season is really starting to dig in

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Speaker 1: at the Action Network. We've just signed a content deal

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Speaker 1: with NASCAR. We have the PGA Championship coming up this week, sorry,

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Speaker 1: pick up a little bit. Sean, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Raybond, what have you been up to besides creating

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, guys, everyone out there, draft Kyler Murray no

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Speaker 5: matter what you gonna say it, Okay, like you got

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm weighing you guys down.

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Speaker 1: But you both here, you come in with your pessimism.

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Speaker 4: But you guys both have him ranked third, and I

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Speaker 3: Because I think you could wait maybe twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about some of the players we might

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Speaker 1: look to fade Sean. Who do you have here?

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Speaker 3: So I'm going with Cam Newton.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's too many mobile quarterbacks now, so you know,

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Speaker 4: So I just don't think it's worth spending the draft

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Speaker 4: there's just too many options now that he kind of

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's fair. Although there is like

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah that you know that that was different

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Speaker 3: Now throwing a Nerf ball around a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I was just saying, until he throws

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Speaker 1: Around, Yeah, Raymond, who are you looking to fade here?

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically everyone before Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 5: that's not insignificant at all. Like that's that's really that's

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Speaker 5: you know, if you want, if you guys want to

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Speaker 5: But I think in general, you know, there's just no

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Speaker 2: He's going number twenty two.

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Speaker 5: So you always have these fullback options if you really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Raybond, It's interesting. I mean, Josh Allen I think

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Speaker 1: Uh, the disrespect. I believe I just heard you say

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you guys are talking about a bunch

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Speaker 4: So I love getting Josh Allen later. You know, he

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Speaker 2: But this is a guy who you know, now that

436
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Speaker 2: he has.

437
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Speaker 5: A Marii Cooper, he kind of has a wide receiver,

438
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Speaker 5: a number one wide receiver that he can go to again,

439
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Speaker 5: kind of like he had with des Bryant.

440
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Speaker 2: His first year.

441
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Speaker 5: You know, they they kind of short up, so the

442
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Speaker 5: receiver spots should be better too. With Gallup entering his

443
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Speaker 5: second year, I'm looking for him to take a jump.

444
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Speaker 5: You know, I think Random Cobb is at least as

445
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Speaker 5: good as Cole Beasley, if not slightly better. You're still

446
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Speaker 5: throwing to Ezekiel Elliott probably eighteen nineteen percent of the time.

447
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Speaker 5: Jason Whitten a solid pass catcher. I know he took

448
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Speaker 5: a year off, but I don't I mean, Jason Witten

449
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Speaker 5: is going to be Jason Witten. I don't think there's

450
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Speaker 5: really any difference, you know, between him how old he gets.

451
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Speaker 2: He just is what he is.

452
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Speaker 5: So I think there's a chance that Dak Prescott could

453
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Speaker 5: really have sot you know, four or five solid options

454
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Speaker 5: to throw to. And he's already we've already seen him

455
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Speaker 5: do it with less so and he can run, and

456
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Speaker 5: he especially when near the goal line, he will run too.

457
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Speaker 5: You know, It's not just it's even though Zeke gets

458
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Speaker 5: a ton of touchdowns. You know, Dak has six six

459
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Speaker 5: and six touchdowns rushing in each of his three years

460
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Speaker 5: in the week, so I really like Dak and I

461
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Speaker 5: think true Bisky's another one He's a guy who can

462
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Speaker 5: put up some big rushing stats as well, and he

463
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Speaker 5: has a pretty solid group of five guys that are

464
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Speaker 5: starting receivers, skill position player excuse me to throw to

465
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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 1: The guy I'm looking at is Lamar Jackson and Sean.

467
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Speaker 1: You mentioned him earlier, so not really much that needs

468
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Speaker 1: to be said about him, don't really need to talk

469
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Speaker 1: about it. One thing I do need to talk about, however,

470
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Speaker 1: is Airbnb experiences. I mentioned them last week on the show,

471
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Speaker 1: mentioned that I had scheduled an experience, and I'll talk

472
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Speaker 1: about that later in the show. That's what we call

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Speaker 1: a tease, But right now, I just want to remind

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Speaker 1: you about how awesome Airbnb experiences are. You know about Airbnb.

475
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Speaker 1: It's your go to site if you're looking for a

476
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Speaker 1: place to stay, but you should also check out the

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Speaker 1: site for Airbnb experiences, which provide access to activities that

478
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Speaker 1: can't easily be found elsewhere. Airbnb experiences are designed for

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Speaker 1: active participations so you can do something new. They are

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Speaker 1: curated for quality, embedded for safety. These aren't your typical

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Speaker 1: tours and activities. Airbnb experiences are hosted by locals who

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Speaker 1: have deep expertise in their field, and I really want

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Speaker 1: to emphasize that real experts with long time, hands on

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Speaker 1: experience who are guiding you through your own experience. With

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Speaker 1: these experiences, you learn things that you can't find online

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Speaker 1: or in a textbook, and most importantly, you have fun.

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Speaker 1: These are Airbnb experiences that you can find it over

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Speaker 1: a thousand cities around the world, so there are lots

489
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Speaker 1: of options for you to choose from. You don't need

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Speaker 1: to be traveling to try Airbnb experiences. You can do

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Speaker 1: them right in your hometown. That's what I did this

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Speaker 1: past weekend, and I have a last for your own adventures.

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Speaker 1: Check out airbnb dot com slash experiences to explore one

494
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Speaker 1: of the kind activities created for the curious bros. Let's

495
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Speaker 1: talk about running backs. Sean, who are you targeting at

496
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Speaker 1: his adp Okay?

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Speaker 4: So DeVante Freeman and he is definitely part of the

498
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Speaker 4: frozen pond, So you know, I hate going there just

499
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Speaker 4: to recap last year, I mean the running Back twos.

500
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Speaker 4: I tend to shy away from just looking at last year.

501
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Speaker 4: Some of the guys in the RB two ranges Jordan Howard, Lashaw, McCoy,

502
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Speaker 4: Kenyon Drake, Derrick, Henry who you know did good in

503
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: the Fans playoffs, but if you had him, he probably

504
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: didn't help you to get there. Lamar Miller, Royce Freeman,

505
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Speaker 4: Jamal Williams, Dean Lewis, Tevin Coleman. I mean, it's just

506
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Speaker 4: a range that I typically don't target, but this year,

507
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Speaker 4: with my my strategy of you know, getting receivers or

508
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Speaker 4: maybe a top three tight end earlier, you.

509
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Speaker 3: Know, I'm kind of forced in this range.

510
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Speaker 4: And I think Devonte Freeman gives you that higher floor

511
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Speaker 4: than most of these guys because I think the problem

512
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Speaker 4: with RB two is, you know, the floor is a

513
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Speaker 4: lot lower than people think. And I think, you know,

514
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Speaker 4: Freeman's stock fell for good reasons. You know, he missed

515
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Speaker 4: most of the last year with his growing injury, so

516
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Speaker 4: he took a hit there. But you know he should

517
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Speaker 4: fulfill the role that he had before. With Tevin Coleman.

518
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Speaker 4: Edo Smith will be the new Tevin Coleman is sort

519
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Speaker 4: of the the second.

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Speaker 3: Running back of the RBBC.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm expecting Freeman and to probably go

522
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Speaker 4: closer to his twenty seventeen numbers. So I have him

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Speaker 4: around eight hundred rushing yards, seven rushing touchdowns, three hundred

524
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Speaker 4: receiving yards and two receiving touchdowns. Nothing sexy, but just

525
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Speaker 4: just a high floor player in this range. And then

526
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Speaker 4: I'm going to take more gambles later on the draft.

527
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Speaker 4: So I think just he gives you a lot of

528
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Speaker 4: different options depending on your draft position or what you

529
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Speaker 4: do in the first few rounds that I think he's

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Speaker 4: a good stable pick to take usually in the late

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Speaker 4: third or early fourth round, just based on the few

532
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Speaker 4: drafts I've had. He's kind of a guy who've been

533
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Speaker 4: targeting in there, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Rabon, what about you?

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Speaker 2: The one I'll talk about here is Lamar Miller.

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Speaker 5: I think that you know, he's going around pick seventy

537
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Speaker 5: right now, and he's around RB thirty, and he's a

538
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Speaker 5: guy I guess he's never sexy. But at the end

539
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Speaker 5: of the day, if you.

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Speaker 2: Look at Bill O'Brien and what he's done.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of stuck with Lamar Miller and wrote it

542
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Speaker 5: out and he's never really kind of gone away from

543
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Speaker 5: him too much. He had Foreman kind of you know,

544
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Speaker 5: splitting work, kind of like Alfred Blue a little bit

545
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Speaker 5: last year. But Miller, excuse me, to still getting about

546
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Speaker 5: two thirds of the carries and I think that'll continue,

547
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Speaker 5: and at that workload, you know, even though he's not

548
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Speaker 5: a big receiving back, he will usually get seven eight

549
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Speaker 5: percent of the team's targets. I mean in this kind

550
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Speaker 5: of offense, the pretty explosive offense if everyone's healthy. I

551
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Speaker 5: think the offensive line got better, and we saw Miller

552
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Speaker 5: with some jews slash. It's not like he's completely dead

553
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Speaker 5: in the water. I think he popped off a ninety

554
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Speaker 5: ninety something yard run or something like that. So he's

555
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Speaker 5: kind of the last running back that I think you

556
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Speaker 5: have a legitimate chance, at least right now of feeling

557
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Speaker 5: pretty good about the workload before you probably want to

558
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Speaker 5: wait a little bit and then just take take some

559
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Speaker 5: more high upside guys that their workload isn't as as guaranteed.

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Speaker 5: So I love Miller and I also love early in

561
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Speaker 5: the draft. I love David Johnson. I think David Johnson

562
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Speaker 5: has a chance to be the RB one if everything

563
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Speaker 5: goes right with Kayler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting takes there. Lamar Miller definitely see value in

565
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Speaker 1: him and David Johnson. I think it will be a

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Speaker 1: bounce back here for him, even though he really wasn't

567
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Speaker 1: even all that bad last year. The guy I'm looking at, Sean,

568
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Speaker 1: You're probably gonna think I'm wrong. Sorry, but you'll correct me.

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. I think this guy is going to not

570
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Speaker 1: tear it up because he's so good, But I think

571
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Speaker 1: he's going to be fed the ball at such a

572
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Speaker 1: high volume that he can't help but get like twelve

573
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Speaker 1: hundred scrimmage yards. And I don't think the Raiders are

574
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Speaker 1: going to be scoring a lot of touchdowns, but I

575
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Speaker 1: think they're still going to be incentivized to let him

576
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Speaker 1: run the ball into the end zone as opposed to

577
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Speaker 1: letting Derek Carr attempt to throw it in. And Jacobs

578
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Speaker 1: is a pretty good pass catcher on his own. So

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Speaker 1: there's a guy, you know, drafted in the first round

580
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Speaker 1: twenty one years old. Those guys tend to have success

581
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Speaker 1: pretty quickly too. And he's a three down back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be used a lot. He's

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Speaker 1: going right now around like running back sixteen in rounds

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Speaker 1: kind of like three or four. I think he could

585
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Speaker 1: provide value, you like a guy drafted in round two,

586
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Speaker 1: maybe even the end of round one. So and I

587
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Speaker 1: think his ADP will start to move up in that direction.

588
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Speaker 1: The closer we get towards the season, so I would

589
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Speaker 1: be looking to draft him now. But what what do

590
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Speaker 1: you guys think about Josh Jacobs Because I think he's

591
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Speaker 1: going to be like one of the question marks of

592
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Speaker 1: the off season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, I agree with that, and

594
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Speaker 4: he's definitely a higher floor guy than we realize, especially

595
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Speaker 4: with Crowell put on IR. I think he's a safe

596
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Speaker 4: bet for two hundred and fifty or more touches. He

597
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Speaker 4: kind of reminds me of like Royce Roomin from last year,

598
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Speaker 4: where I thought he had the job to himself. So

599
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Speaker 4: unless you think Doug Martin's going to turn into Philip

600
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Speaker 4: Lindsay of last year, I just think Josh Jacobs is

601
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Speaker 4: a great pick.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I can get behind that.

603
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Speaker 4: You know, his if his ADP starts to hit into

604
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Speaker 4: the top fifteen though, I'll probably pass because there is

605
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: some question marks there. But as of right now, I

606
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Speaker 4: think you'd still get value in him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think if you look at what the Raiders

608
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Speaker 5: are doing, it seems like they just signed Croell to

609
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Speaker 5: be in the Doug Martin row, and then when Crowell

610
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Speaker 5: got hurt, they brought back Doug Martin. So if you

611
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Speaker 5: look at while Marshawn Lynch was healthy, who I think

612
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Speaker 5: Jacobs is going to be the one for one replacement

613
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Speaker 5: for Marshawn Lynch had eighty eight carries in those six

614
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Speaker 5: weeks he was healthy, and Doug Martin had twenty six.

615
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Speaker 5: And not only that, but Marshall Lynch also had twenty

616
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Speaker 5: targets in those six games. And that's over that's over

617
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Speaker 5: three targets a game. And Marshall Lynch is not even

618
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Speaker 5: really a big pass catching back. So I think it's

619
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Speaker 5: pretty clear what Gruden has in mind, especially since they

620
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Speaker 5: you know, they got it, they went and got.

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Speaker 2: Him in the first round.

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Speaker 5: I think it's pretty clear that they want him to

623
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Speaker 5: be at that one for one replacement for Lynch. And

624
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Speaker 5: I think the Raiders offense actually could be you know,

625
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Speaker 5: I'm not a big there at carfin at all, but

626
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Speaker 5: I think the Raiders offense could be at least solid,

627
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Speaker 5: you know, in a way that you know, supports fantasy production,

628
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Speaker 5: kind of like the Giants with Eli last year, where

629
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Speaker 5: it was like, oh my god, he's just throwing all

630
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Speaker 5: these checkdowns, but at the end of the day, you know,

631
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Speaker 5: you have Beckham and you had Bark, we had all

632
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Speaker 5: these guys, and you know, the still players were fine.

633
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Speaker 1: All right, let's look at some players we might be

634
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Speaker 1: looking to fade, Sean, do you have here?

635
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Speaker 4: Well, I think the obvious one right now would be

636
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Speaker 4: Todd Gurley. You know, after the Rams decided to keep

637
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Speaker 4: Malcolm Brown and they drafted Daryl Henderson the third round,

638
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Speaker 4: I think it's clear that they you know, they're not

639
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: expecting to be one hundred percent going in next year,

640
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Speaker 4: and you know, his ADP is still sixth overall, I believe, So,

641
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Speaker 4: I mean I can only see.

642
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Speaker 3: That going down now.

643
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Speaker 4: You know, over the summer, he might fall till like

644
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Speaker 4: later in the second round and I'll probably you know,

645
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Speaker 4: consider scooping him up then. But just as of right now,

646
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Speaker 4: I'm completely staying away because there's there's absolutly no reason

647
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Speaker 4: to take him. I'd rather just start taking you know,

648
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Speaker 4: the top elite wide receivers as opposed to Yeah, I

649
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Speaker 4: don't like gambling on a first round pick. So basically

650
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying there's there's no reason to gamble on

651
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Speaker 4: Todd Gurley this early.

652
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Speaker 3: In the draft season.

653
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Speaker 1: All right, Raybon, what about you?

654
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: So for me and I just want to that's a

655
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: really good one on Gurley.

656
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 5: I just want to point out that Darryl Henderson, they

657
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: took him minute their over the last five years, backs

658
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: picked in around three average one hundred and thirty seven touches,

659
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 5: So that just kind of shows you how Gurly's workload

660
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: could be cut into.

661
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: But for me, it's Darius Geiss.

662
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 5: You know, maybe this will change if we get some

663
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 5: better news, but right now he's going as the RB

664
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Speaker 5: twenty five, and to me, that's just making way too

665
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: many assumptions. You know, that's assuming that he's one hundred

666
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 5: percent healthy and over his his ACL injury, which you know,

667
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 5: Adam Schefter reported in late April that Geist is actually

668
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: not fully healthy and that he is.

669
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: Somewhat behind schedule.

670
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Speaker 5: Then you have to kind of assume that the coaching

671
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 5: staff is going to feel good about his health, that

672
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: even though he was kind of, you know, not quite

673
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 5: on schedule, that by the time the season rolls around,

674
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Speaker 5: that they feel good enough to give him a sizable workload.

675
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: And then you have to and you also have to

676
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Speaker 5: assume that within all that he plays well enough to

677
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: kind of completely knock Adrian Peterson out of the of

678
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 5: the rotation. Because he's still going to have Chris Thompson

679
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 5: there until he gets hurt at least, so you know,

680
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: Adrian Peterson and.

681
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: Might not just go away, and it might end up

682
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: being kind of one of.

683
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 5: These like three way splits with uh, you know, Alfred

684
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 5: Morris and Matt Jones and Chris Thompson that year instead

685
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: of you know, just the workhorse Alfred Morris role that

686
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 5: that we were used to from those other years. So

687
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: I just think there's way too many kind of assumptions

688
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 5: being made here with guys to take them as if

689
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: he's just going to be this lead back. And he

690
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: also probably won't catch him out of passages just because

691
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 5: you still do have Chris Thompson there.

692
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: So and then all and also you have.

693
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 5: To assume that you know, has there wasn't anything to

694
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: Haskins falling in the draft. You know, well, everyone's you know,

695
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: making fun of the Giants and rightfully so you know,

696
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 5: it's kind of got under talked about a little. How

697
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 5: you know, the Broncos didn't want Haskins either, the Giants

698
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 5: passed on him, and you know it kind of fell

699
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 5: into the Redskins last. But who knows how far he

700
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 5: would have fallen if the if the Redskins didn't take them.

701
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: So you have to kind of hope that he's going

702
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 5: to be you know, good for that offense and make

703
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: people around him better, because if not, you're just left

704
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 5: with a really fragile, shaky offense where Geist would have

705
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 5: to create you know whatever touchdown and opportunities.

706
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: He was getting kind of himself.

707
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 5: With long runs, which you know he could do, but

708
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: there's just too many things working against him for me

709
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: to take him as a you know, a top twenty

710
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 5: five back right now.

711
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: So I'll just say I know I need to move

712
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: guys down in my rankings, that that will be coming

713
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: at some point. I'm way too optimistic on him, but

714
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: that's it's probably the Dynasty perspective that's kind of seeping

715
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: in and biasing me, because I still think long term

716
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: he has a lot of potential there the guy I'm

717
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: looking to fade and it's kind of for somewhat similar reasons.

718
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: But Chris Carson, just like Guys, is going to face

719
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of competition from Adrian Peterson. Carson

720
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: I think will definitely face competition from Rashad Penny, who

721
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: is you know, just last year drafted with a first

722
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: round pick. I think he's still going to get his opportunities.

723
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's for sure that we're

724
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: going to see the Seahawks be as run heavy this

725
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: upcoming year as they were last year. You know, it's

726
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: it's probable they will still run the ball quite a bit.

727
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: But even if they just reduced slightly the extent to

728
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: which they rely on the run, I think that will

729
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: hurt Chris Carson. So I am looking to fade him.

730
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the deeper sleepers we might

731
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: be focusing on. Sean. Who do you have here?

732
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: So mine's just kind of fits in with my overall

733
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 4: strategy at running back. My guy is Elijah McGuire, and

734
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: I know he's completely irrelevant as long as Le'Veon Bell

735
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: is healthy. But you know, towards the end of the

736
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: draft you can get him close to the last round.

737
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: You just need to worry about the guy that drafts

738
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: Le'Veon Bell might handcuff him. But you know, I don't

739
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: draft the kicker. I don't draft the defense. I don't

740
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: draft the backup tight end. I don't take that many

741
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: backup wide receivers. So I just like to load up

742
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: on these backups that I think if the starting running

743
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: back were to miss any time, they will be, you know,

744
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: the three down back. And he proved that last year.

745
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 4: It was weeks fourteen through seventeen last year where he

746
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: took over his lead back to the Jets and he

747
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: was RB thirteen in PPR. So he's proven that he

748
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: can handle a work a heavy workload. So I think

749
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: he's just one of the many guys I'm gonna be

750
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: loading up at the end of the draft just to

751
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: you know, kind of potentially have you know, a waiver

752
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: wire winner. So he's the guy that I'm targeting this

753
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: early in the season, but I'm gonna have many more

754
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 4: like it, and I'm perfectly aware that he needs LiveOn

755
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: Bell to miss time for now for any value.

756
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as you mentioned, the one thing that

757
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: is good about him we saw last year and glimpses

758
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: and sought in college, he does have a three down

759
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: skill set. So definitely that makes him much much more

760
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: worthy to be a late round pick than someone who

761
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: just is a you know, wanted to down grinder or

762
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: just a pass catching back Raybond, who are you looking

763
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: at later in drafts?

764
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so for for kind of similar reasons.

765
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 5: I think, you know, Chase Edmonds, the back of running

766
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 5: back in Arizona, has a lot of value and he's

767
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: going at running back eighty two right now. I mean,

768
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: you know, David Johnson, as much as I like him

769
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: and I think he can be the number one overall

770
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 5: player in Fantasy this year, the bottom line is he

771
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 5: is also an injury risk.

772
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a.

773
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: Guy that is going to be getting a lot of touches.

774
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: And you know, if you look at you know, the

775
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 5: models of a sports injury predictor, did they actually have

776
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: him as one of the highest risk players for injury

777
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 5: and they haven't projected to miss about I think five

778
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: games or so, No, three three point seven to five games.

779
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 5: So you know, that's that's kind of a red flag.

780
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 5: And I think that Edmonds would be the guy to

781
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: step in in that case. And again in this offense,

782
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 5: which I think is going to to have a lot

783
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 5: of success with with Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury. I

784
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 5: think if if Johnson goes down and you have another

785
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 5: running back in there and you can get him that cheap,

786
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 5: I think you want to jump on it.

787
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: And I think He's a.

788
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 5: Valuable handcuff either way, because he's one of those guys

789
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 5: where you don't really see another guy on the roster

790
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 5: kind of overtaking him.

791
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: So that's the main guy I'm looking at.

792
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 5: But I also want to point out another player who

793
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: I think is kind of going under talked about, uh,

794
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 5: and that's Darwin Thompson.

795
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 2: Of the Chiefs, rookie out of Utah State, six round pick.

796
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: Really fast guy.

797
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: Now, if Tyreek Hill was out, I think that, you know,

798
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 5: Thompson could kind of be used as a one of

799
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 5: those kind of Tarik Cohen Cohen like players. It's kind

800
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 5: of a weapon all over the field, and it's not

801
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 5: might not necessarily just be you know, Mkole Hartman is

802
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 5: a one for one replacement, they might have to do

803
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 5: a lot of different things to kind of replicate that production.

804
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 5: So he's a player I would at least keep an

805
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,479
Speaker 5: eye on as as the season progresses, because he's gonna

806
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: be free. Oh. I don't think his ADP is gonna climb,

807
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 5: but I would just minitor him as the as the

808
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 5: off season progresses.

809
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: All Right, one guy I'm keeping an eye on is

810
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, and I almost kind of hate to say

811
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: it just because he was such a non entity last

812
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: year really even barely got the opportunity to touch the ball,

813
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: and then when he did touch the ball, he was

814
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: incredibly not productive. But it's a new offensive system. There.

815
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: One thing that is really in his favors that the

816
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: Buccaneers didn't draft another running back. And I thought it

817
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: was probable that they actually would draft someone, you know,

818
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: at least in rounds three or four, But it looks

819
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: like it's just going to be Jones and Peyton Barber.

820
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Speaker 1: And you know, Peyton Barber as I don't know, as

821
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: workman like as he was last year. I think he

822
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,640
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823
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,200
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824
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Speaker 1: talk about some wide receivers. Sean, who are you looking at?

851
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: At his ADP.

852
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 4: So right now, looking at Sammy Watkins, who's at wide

853
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: receiver twenty four right now, I think if and when

854
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill it's official that he won't be playing in

855
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, which remains to be seen, I think is

856
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: Watkins ADP that is will go up a little bit

857
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 4: as he will be the unquestioned number one wide receiver

858
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: in this offense. You know, after Travis Kelcey. In some

859
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: of the pass catching backs like Damian Williams, they don't

860
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: really have much. You know, Mikole Hartman could end up

861
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 4: being you know, a poor man's tyre kill.

862
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: But I think that Sammy Watkins is gonna.

863
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Speaker 4: You know, he could be, you know, have wide receiver

864
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: one potential with Patrick Mahomes as his quarterback. So you know,

865
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Speaker 4: when it comes to last year, he had his season

866
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 4: derailed with his foot injury, but you know, weeks one

867
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Speaker 4: through nine he was wide receiver twenty four and that

868
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 4: was with everybody healthy.

869
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: So I think has a ton of potential. Still.

870
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: He's entering his prime at twenty six, so I think

871
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 4: his last few years of injury history and struggles, I

872
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: think that's what's kind of lowering his ADP right now.

873
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: But I have no reason to think that, you know,

874
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 4: his his talent can't rise right here and you know,

875
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 4: be the focal point of this offense. So I'm willing

876
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: to take a chance on this this early and think

877
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: he could climb into the top twenty when all of

878
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: a sudden done, especially after Hill becomes official.

879
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I know there's a case to

880
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: be made for why Seemy Watkins wouldn't have much more

881
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: success even if he becomes the number one, But I

882
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: still think he could have some success even if he's

883
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: not seeing the same targets that used to go to

884
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill, like the same types of targets. He would

885
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: still I presume, seeing increased target share, which would you know,

886
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: obviously result in more production. Raybond, who do you have here?

887
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: So?

888
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 5: I really like Christian Kirk via Arizona Cardinals. He's entering

889
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: a second year, which is always something I look for.

890
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 5: I think a lot of times with these second year receivers.

891
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: You know, used to be back in the day that

892
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 5: receivers broke out in their third year only and that

893
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: was generally the big year. Now I think you have

894
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: to look at the second year a lot more seriously,

895
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 5: that's when you see the biggest jumps in target share

896
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 5: and all that. So Kirk is a guy who if

897
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 5: you look last year, he actually got a nineteen percent

898
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 5: target share he was That's a pretty size of the

899
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 5: target share.

900
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: It's just that he was. You know, the cards were four.

901
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 5: Hundred and ninety five past attempt that was bottom five

902
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 5: in them league. I think they're gonna throw a lot

903
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: more this year. And Kirk is actually the prototypical weapon

904
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: that you would use in the Kingsbury type of offense.

905
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: He's a guy that can catch short passes, He's a

906
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 5: guy that can go over the top and do everything

907
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 5: in between. And he has the athleticism that I think

908
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 5: Barry Fitzgerald is kind of lacking at this point.

909
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: So I think Kirk is actually a good bet.

910
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 5: If David Johnson is in, I think Kirk is actually

911
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 5: a decent bet to lead Arizona and targets this year,

912
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: and Fitzgerald might be second, because I think Kirk is

913
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 5: going to get a ton of easy of easy completions

914
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: in addition to to what else he's doing. Another guy

915
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 5: kind of in a similar vein of that is Curtis

916
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: Samuel of the Carolina Panthers.

917
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a guy if.

918
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: You looked last year, you know, his target share and

919
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 5: once he started becoming a full time player was like

920
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 5: probably a percentage point behind Dj Moore, who I also.

921
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: Like coming into his second year. But I think Samuel's

922
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: got that.

923
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 5: They're going to continue to try to get the ball

924
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 5: to a lot and you know Samuel, they would he

925
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 5: would sometimes get you know, five six targets and one

926
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 5: two rushing attempt and he would only play about twenty

927
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 5: thirty percent of the snap. So that just shows you

928
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: how much they're trying to get him the football. And

929
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 5: I think Greg Olsen's on the downside of his career,

930
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 5: so I think you're gonna have more as the number one,

931
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 5: but you're gonna have Samuel as a guy that's going

932
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 5: to be kind of used in that same way as

933
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 5: an all purpose kind of really poor man's version of

934
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill for that offense. So those are two guys

935
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 5: that I'm looking at that you can still get outside

936
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: of the top thirty six, and I think I would

937
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 5: feel comfortable starting as a wide receiver three at least.

938
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like those. The Christian Kirkwan is interesting in

939
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: that he was productive right away at A and M

940
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: I think he will fit in really well with what

941
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury he wants to do and that he can't

942
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: play inside, but I think he can also play outside

943
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: better than people maybe would have expected when he entered

944
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: the league. So a lot of potential with him. The

945
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: guy I am going with is a MARII Cooper. You

946
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: can get him in rounds two or three right now

947
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: going off the board like around wide receiver twelve, But

948
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: I think he has upside for more. It's incredibly hard

949
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver to be traded in the middle

950
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: of the season and to be we saw how little

951
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: Golden Tape did last year in the middle of the

952
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: season when he was traded to the Eagles, But Amari

953
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Cooper really hit the ground running. And I think with

954
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: a full off season to be able to be incorporated

955
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: into the offense to work on his timing with Dak Prescott,

956
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: there could be a lot of potential there for him.

957
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: And he was, you know, a wide receiver one you

958
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: know from the time he was traded to Dallas, just

959
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: in terms of his overall production and his consistency might

960
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: not be something that you can rely on you know,

961
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: there might be peaks and valleys, but I'm still I'm

962
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: still fine with that. I think that that, especially for

963
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: best ball, is fine. But even for seasonal leagues, you know,

964
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: the peaks and valleys of guys volatility that tends to

965
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: be I think normalized over the like the portfolio of

966
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, like nine to eleven players that you're starting

967
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: on any given week. So I'm really not even all

968
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: that worried about maybe consistency issues with him. So I

969
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: like him a lot. Sean, who do you have as

970
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: someone you might be looking to fade?

971
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: So even though I love this guy's talent, I think

972
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: DJ Moore at wide receiver twenty is just too high

973
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: for him.

974
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: He does, you know.

975
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: I like that he adds some rushing stats, but you know,

976
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: when this Panthers receiver corps is healthy, there's just not

977
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 4: enough passing yards to go around to really make someone

978
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: like DJ Moore consistent. He's gonna have some big weeks,

979
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 4: for sure, but you know, just on a week's week

980
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 4: basis out of my wide receiver too, I'm gonna want

981
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: somebody that I could rely on week two weeks, So,

982
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: you know, if he were to fall towards you know,

983
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: the high twenties or early thirties. I love to get

984
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: him there, but I mean wide receiver twenties is too

985
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: high for me, so I'd rather I guy mentioned earlier.

986
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: I rather have Sammy Watkins than him. So DJ Moore

987
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: is just not gonna be a guy I'm targeting most

988
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 4: of my drafts.

989
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

990
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: I think that's an interesting point because I think what's

991
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 5: going on here is like everyone's kind of realizing the

992
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: second year of breakout for more, and he's like priced

993
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 5: appropaly because I think he has that kind upside. But

994
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: I agree, it's like you're not getting any type of discount,

995
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 5: whereas if you go a little further down the draft,

996
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 5: there are guys who you can get that kind of

997
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 5: second year discount where they're not really projecting that full

998
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: leap yet.

999
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: So I like that exactly.

1000
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. And rayveon to to your point

1001
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: there Curtis Samuel versus DJ Moore. I mean, I know

1002
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: that there's a difference between them, but there's not that

1003
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: much of a difference between them, and you can get

1004
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel much later. Raymond, who are you looking to fade?

1005
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: Who am I going to fade?

1006
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: So there are a couple of guys and a lot

1007
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 5: of it is more this is probably geared toward best ball,

1008
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 5: especially right now. I'll give you a couple of names,

1009
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup just because I think he's another guy who

1010
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: if he's getting taken at the right.

1011
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: Spot, if he's fully healthy, if he's finally back.

1012
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 5: But right now, you don't need to take them at

1013
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: wide receiver, you know, twenty because we don't know if

1014
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 5: he's we don't know if he's going to have a setup.

1015
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: You know, we don't.

1016
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 5: That's not a guarantee, you know, while he was gone,

1017
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 5: you know, I know, you know Jared got struggled without him.

1018
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 5: But you know, you still have Brandon Cooks, that you

1019
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 5: still have Robert Wood, you still have Gurley, and that

1020
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 5: you're probably gonna have some some targets for Henderson.

1021
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: You still have the tight end.

1022
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 5: So if he's not you know, one hundred percent of

1023
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 5: what he was before, there's a chance that, you know,

1024
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 5: we could have a season a little more like maybe

1025
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 5: his rookie year. So until we kind of know for

1026
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 5: a fact that he's good to go, I would just

1027
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 5: hold off on him. But another guy kind of like

1028
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 5: that is is Emmanuel Sanders, who still getting taken in

1029
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: the top one hundred picks and a lot of ADP's

1030
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 5: that I'm seeing, and you know, I just think that's

1031
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 5: a really tough injury, you know, with the with the

1032
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 5: Achilles to come back from, especially at his age, and

1033
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 5: he was already a player that you know, was kind

1034
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 5: of at times getting catching a lot of underneath stuff,

1035
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: and he was playing more on the slot lately. And

1036
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 5: you know, Denver does have three guys you know that

1037
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 5: that played decently well last year in Courtland Sutton, Tim

1038
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 5: Patrick and Deshaun Hamilton. They also just drafted a tight

1039
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: end that can catch the ball and know offan uh

1040
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 5: they have Philip Lindsay. So you know, this is an

1041
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 5: injury that's just really tough for guys to come back

1042
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: from at any agent, especially if you're a receiver over thirty.

1043
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 5: So I think there's a chance that Sanders becomes a

1044
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 5: lot more of a kind of a rotational piece or

1045
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 5: kind of a not a main cog the way he has.

1046
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: Been over these last few years.

1047
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't really touch him anywhere near his ADP

1048
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 5: a really at all until you know, less we kind

1049
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 5: of see him in the preseason and he's one hundred

1050
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 5: percent healthy and he's looking like his old self, and

1051
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 5: he's going to be that number one guy. And then

1052
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: another guy for non injury reasons is Robbie Anderson. He's

1053
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 5: going as a wide receiver thirty one right now in

1054
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 5: the sixth to seventh round.

1055
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: I think that's way too high.

1056
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 5: I think the last couple of years, the attraction with

1057
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: Robbie Anderson was that the Jets really didn't have much

1058
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: at pass catcher, and so Robbie Anderson was a guy who,

1059
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: you know, he was getting kind of a lot of

1060
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 5: targets by default.

1061
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a good player. I like him as

1062
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: a player.

1063
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: But right now, if you look at the Jets receiving corps,

1064
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 5: you have, well, first of all, you have Le'Veon Bell,

1065
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: who you know is going to get anywhere from probably

1066
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: fifteen to twenty percent of that target share because that's

1067
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 5: one of his specialties. And then you also have Jamison Crowder,

1068
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 5: who they just signed member new regime too with Adam Gase.

1069
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 5: You have Jamison Crowder, you have Quincy and Noon were

1070
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: coming back, and you have Herndon. Chris Herndon entering his

1071
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: second year at tight end. So, Robbie Anderson, he runs

1072
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 5: the lowest percentage routes out of all of these guys,

1073
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: and there's a chance that on any given week or

1074
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 5: even over the full season, he could be the fourth

1075
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 5: or the fifth option in terms of targets. And that's

1076
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: just a lot of volativity that I don't think you

1077
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: need to, even in a best ball where it kind

1078
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 5: of suits him. I just don't think you need to

1079
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 5: take Robbie Anderson that high when you can get players

1080
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 5: of a kind of a similar type much later on.

1081
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think there's much difference between Robbie

1082
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: Anderson and a guy like Kenny Stills or a.

1083
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: Couple other guys that I'll talk about who I like

1084
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: later on.

1085
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 5: So Anderson is a guy for non injury reasons that

1086
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 5: I'd be looking the faith.

1087
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rayvon, to your point about Anderson and Sanders, Anderson,

1088
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: it seems like he's probably going to be playing the

1089
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: Devonte Parker role and that wasn't really all that valuable

1090
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: for Parker down in Miami and Mayneld Sanders, I don't

1091
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: even have him ranked. Might be aggressive, but like, this

1092
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: is a guy who's over thirty, who's coming off one

1093
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: of the worst injuries that a wide receiver can come

1094
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: off of the achilles here. So there's talk that he's

1095
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: going to open the season on the pup. I mean,

1096
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if honestly, I don't know if we

1097
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: even see him play this year. So I just I mean,

1098
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I honestly could And I wasn't like trying to be

1099
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: like hot taky with it. It was just like, I

1100
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: don't I don't know why I would draft this guy

1101
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: when I could draft these like fifty sixty seventy other

1102
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers in front of him.

1103
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 5: It's just so it's hard because you don't really it's

1104
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 5: such a rare injury, and it's such a rare situation,

1105
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 5: and it's hard to really kind of properly adjust for. Okay, well,

1106
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 5: am I gonna you know, am I going to project

1107
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 5: him to play less games?

1108
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: Am I just going to project him for less of

1109
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: a target? Like it's it's not these situations are.

1110
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 5: So uncommon when you get like kind of a number

1111
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 5: one target who now you know, we just don't know,

1112
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 5: we don't know what's gonna happen.

1113
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: So for me, it's it's the literal trifecta in which

1114
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 1: I'm projecting him for fewer games, the lower target share,

1115
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: in which he rains in less yards on each target.

1116
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's just I'm I'm full fading. Uh, Sean,

1117
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna say something.

1118
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I was just there's no reason to take

1119
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Sanders. He's he's at the point where it's going

1120
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: to be sort of you know, your casual fantasy player

1121
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 4: is gonna see Kiki Qt, Nikhil Harry, James Washington, and

1122
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Sanders and go who the hell are those guys

1123
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: and just take the guy they know. So yeah, it's

1124
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 4: just absolutely no reason taking Emanuel Center. He's going way

1125
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 4: too high.

1126
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh my god, if you see Keiki QT and

1127
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 5: you take a manual, please, oh my, he's another sweet

1128
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 5: But I didn't. Yeah, he's the guy who, even with

1129
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 5: Hopkins and Fuller in there were still having a lot

1130
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 5: of high volume games and you still doesn't spread the

1131
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 5: ball around very much. They're very kind of deliberate in

1132
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 5: targeting their best players, and so QT could easily get

1133
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: a twenty percent target year even with Fuller also getting

1134
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 5: you know, nineteen twenty and Hot.

1135
00:50:59,239 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: Is getting thirty.

1136
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, Ket is great because you know when to

1137
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: play him when he's actually playing right.

1138
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, him and Amario Sanis probably have the same games

1139
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 5: play projection, but I think you take.

1140
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: Effected.

1141
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of a guy who's over thirty and used

1142
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: to play for the Steelers, Antonio Brown is a guy

1143
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm obviously looking to fade here. He's going as the

1144
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: wide receiver seven in round two. I think there's an

1145
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: outside chance that he's not even in the top thirty

1146
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: at his position at the end of the season. If

1147
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: things go really sideways for the Raiders. I mean, I

1148
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to even go further down

1149
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: that rabbit hole. I think my disdain for Antonio Brown

1150
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: where he is at this point in his career is

1151
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: pretty well known. But even if he is targeted to

1152
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: the extent that he was last year, and I think

1153
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: that is not a safe assumption, I think he will

1154
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: see a slight dip in targets, even if he is

1155
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: targeted very heavily, I think he will be less efficient

1156
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: in terms of accumulated per target, and then much less

1157
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: efficient in terms of touchdowns accumulated per target. So he's

1158
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: someone I'm really looking to stay away from. Given that

1159
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: he's had the luxury his entire career of playing on

1160
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: a competitive team with a good quarterback. I think now

1161
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: he's going to have a much worse situation on both

1162
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: of those fronts. Let's talk about the guys deep sleeping

1163
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: in the twenty nineteen Fantasy Football rankings, Sean, who do

1164
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: you have at the wide receiver position?

1165
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 4: So I mentioned earlier, but John Brown. I think he's

1166
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 4: a great fit with Josh Allen on the Bills. You

1167
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: know he's going to be his main deep target. And

1168
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 4: you know last year John Brown was doing great with

1169
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. He was wide receiver fifteen in the first

1170
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 4: half of the season, and then he predictabarly fell face

1171
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: to the earth when Lamar Jackson took over. So I'm

1172
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 4: not docking that against Brown anyway. So I think this

1173
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 4: is a great fit for him. You know, traditional season

1174
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 4: long leagues, I probably wouldn't target him, but you know,

1175
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: for a best Ball he's great because you don't have

1176
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: to figure out which weeks he's gonna go off, but

1177
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 4: he's gonna have several weeks.

1178
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: Where you know, catches the DP ball.

1179
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 4: So I love him in best ball And another guy

1180
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 4: is more of a game theory play as Josh Reynolds,

1181
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 4: his ADP is basically free.

1182
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: You can just take him last pick if you want.

1183
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: But you know, he's a.

1184
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 4: Guy where if any of the Rams receivers, whether it's

1185
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup, Robert Woods, or Branon Cooks goes down, he's,

1186
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 4: you know, in the starting lineup, and last year when

1187
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: a Cup went down, he was, you know, a low

1188
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: on wide receiver three. So he kind of has that

1189
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 4: built in upside that I think is worth taking super

1190
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 4: late when you're gonna get a potential starting receiver on

1191
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 4: one of the top pass passing offenses in the league.

1192
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: So I love him as just a game theory flyer

1193
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: late in the draft.

1194
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. Sean, pretty sharp there, Raymond, who

1195
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: do you have?

1196
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 5: It is interesting because I also I'm going a similar

1197
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: direction in terms of looking for Josh Allen pass catchers,

1198
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 5: which actually sounds absurd that Sean and I are just

1199
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: going back to back with one of I mean, at

1200
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 5: least coming into the league was considered one of the

1201
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 5: most inaccurate quarterbacks pretty much of all time. But I

1202
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 5: really think we need to be taking Robert Foster. I

1203
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 5: think that, and I don't disagree with Brown either. I

1204
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 5: think Brown's gonna have a great season. I think there's

1205
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 5: a reason why you're seeing the Bills kind of build

1206
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 5: a receiving quarters way. First of us, I think they

1207
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 5: were a little underwhelmed with with Jay Jones. But I

1208
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 5: mean this guy, Robert Foster, He's a guy who at Alabama,

1209
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 5: I mean, he didn't even touch He caught thirty five

1210
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 5: passes in four years.

1211
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: His senior year he caught He played ten games.

1212
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 5: And caught fourteen balls. He really did absolutely nothing in college.

1213
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 5: I mean, caught a lot of bad breaks and then

1214
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: a lot of good players in front of him. But

1215
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 5: he came out this you know, last year, and he

1216
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 5: had a twenty two point nine per.

1217
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: Yard average depth to target.

1218
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 5: He caught sixty one percent of his passes twenty two

1219
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 5: point nine twenty two point nine yard average depth and

1220
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 5: caught sixty more percent of his passes. Just a just

1221
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 5: a I think a guy who a lot more talented

1222
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 5: than you know, than his like college pedigree indicates. And

1223
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 5: the Bills kind of realize this, and and that's why

1224
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 5: they kind of kind of featured him near the end

1225
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: of the year. And I think, you know, josh Allen

1226
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 5: him and josh A got a lot of reps last year,

1227
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 5: and I think that that that connection is going to

1228
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 5: kind of carry over into this year. And I think

1229
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 5: he has the potential to be to be a top

1230
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,959
Speaker 5: twenty four guy, you know, for the Bills.

1231
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: And I think he's the.

1232
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 5: Guy that when you're when people are taking like Robbie

1233
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 5: Anderson in you know, in the in the seventies or

1234
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 5: the eighties, I think this is a guy that you

1235
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 5: want to kind of wait, wait to take instead because.

1236
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: He's going to give you a lot of that production.

1237
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 5: Or even a guy like James Washington movie who are

1238
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 5: taken over him in a lot of cases, who I

1239
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 5: don't think is locked into a role. I think Foster

1240
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 5: is going to be a starter on his team. And

1241
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 5: we saw Belichick even try to scheme to take him away,

1242
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 5: which says a lot about about how talented he is.

1243
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 5: So I think he's the guy that I'm really I'm

1244
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 5: really high on him this year.

1245
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, right about your point about Foster, and it's it's

1246
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: always questionable as to how much this stuff matters. But uh,

1247
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a five star recruit to Alabama,

1248
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: played on some kind of weird Alabama teams, right, I don't.

1249
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they had good quarterback situations. And by

1250
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: some scouting services, the number one wide receiver recruit in

1251
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: the country, so you know, kind of from like a

1252
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: long distance Beijingan prior, like, there is some potential there

1253
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: with him, So you know, it wouldn't be surprising if

1254
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: a guy who was awesome entering college ended up having

1255
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: a you know, at least a decently productive season in

1256
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: the NFL. So yeah, he's someone to keep in mind.

1257
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: And I agree. I think Foster and John Brown, both

1258
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: of those guys fit well with Josh Allen's skill set.

1259
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: One of the guys I am really looking to target

1260
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: is Andy Isabella and it's Raymond. It's it's kind of

1261
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: similar to the Christian Kirk thesis that you have, except

1262
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, someone who is just much much cheaper. But

1263
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: I think because they will play a lot of three

1264
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: and four wide receiver sets and Isabella as a second rounder,

1265
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: someone they you know, they actively targeted. I think he's

1266
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: someone who has a lot of potential, you know, just

1267
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: because of the scheme fit. But then on top of that,

1268
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: I think he's Brandon Cooks like in terms of what

1269
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: he can do and the compy I had for him

1270
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: entering the league. You know, obviously wasn't drafted in the

1271
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: first round, but a second round draft grade is still

1272
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: something that's pretty impressive and then incredibly productive throughout his

1273
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: college career, and is versatile. Not only can he catch

1274
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: the ball, but he can return the ball, he can

1275
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: run the ball, he can play inside, he can play outside.

1276
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of potential there with him,

1277
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: and if for some reason something doesn't work out with

1278
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, I think Isabella, I don't want to say

1279
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: it could be like a one from one thing where

1280
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: he just slides into Christian Kirk's role, But I don't know.

1281
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: I think the ball is going to be spread around

1282
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: quite a bit, and I think there will be a

1283
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: lot of targets just in general to go around. So

1284
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: I think Isabella has so much upside going like as

1285
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: the wide receiver seventy five, like going undrafted in a

1286
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: lot of formats. So he's someone I'm definitely looking to target.

1287
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 5: I was gonna say that that was actually a guy

1288
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 5: who I wanted to put for my Madrid already stolen him,

1289
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 5: so I went, I.

1290
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: Let you have that. But I agree, and I don't

1291
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: think it's necessarily about even Kirk.

1292
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 5: I think I think you kind of hit it. I

1293
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 5: think they'renna run a ton of three and four wide sets.

1294
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 5: I think they're not. Even though Ricky Seals Jones went to, uh,

1295
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 5: you know, was coached by Kingsbury at Texas Tech, I

1296
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 5: think that he's not necessarily as high on him or

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00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 5: he's gonna use the tight end position quite as much.

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00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: So I think the guys, the guys that I'm really

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Speaker 2: highing in.

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Speaker 5: That offense are you know, Kirk, dj and Isabella, And

1301
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 5: I think that Larry Fitzgerald could kind of fall down

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 5: to the totem pole a little just because he's not

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00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 5: quite as athletic as what you really would want in

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00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 5: that offense. So there's a chance that you know, you know,

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00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 5: if if Larry Fitzgerald and and Isabella are playing on

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00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 5: the inside, just because Isabella is you know, I think

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 5: can Can can probably get open just as well. It's

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00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 5: not better just because he's so much younger than Larry

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00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 5: at this stage that he could actually be, you know,

1310
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 5: be higher up on the target totem pole than we

1311
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 5: think too.

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Speaker 2: So I actually am on board with that take.

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Speaker 1: I should mention Earlier in the show, I talked about

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Speaker 1: how I for this past weekend had an Airbnb experience,

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Speaker 1: and I want to mention that in more detail because

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Speaker 1: it was so awesome. So my wife and I moved

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Speaker 1: to Cedar Rapids a little under three years ago. We

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Speaker 1: still fight like we're kind of learning the area, like

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Speaker 1: we don't really know where to go if we want

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Speaker 1: to do like outdoorsy type of things. So on Airbnb Experiences,

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Speaker 1: we booked a hiking experience and it was amazing. I

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Speaker 1: might even say life changing, and I'm not really even

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Speaker 1: exaggerating when I say that it was simultaneously tiring and reinvigorating. Afterward,

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Speaker 1: my wife and I said to each other, like, we

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Speaker 1: need to do this again really soon. The experience was

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Speaker 1: She's a professional naturalist with a degree in fish and

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Speaker 1: wildlife biology, and her expertise was immense. She was pointing

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Speaker 1: out all of these birds and bushes and really just everything, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: those are Northern Oriels they just returned this week on

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Speaker 1: their migration route. Oh you see that plant it takes

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Speaker 1: don't sit on it. There's usually a snake underneath it.

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Speaker 1: Oh you see that plant. It's horrible. It's taking over

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Speaker 1: the forest. But it makes great pesto if you get

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Speaker 1: she pulled out the plant out of the ground and

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm taking this home with me. At one

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Speaker 1: point she dug up a wild leak and gave it

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Speaker 1: to us to eat, and it was delicious. For maybe

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Speaker 1: an hour of the hike, we were walking literally through

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Speaker 1: the middle of a creek. I felt like a real

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Speaker 1: rugged wilderness man. And she was pointing out how the

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Speaker 1: landscape has evolved. She was like, you see that big

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Speaker 1: flat rock with the austriations, that's from glaciers thousands of

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Speaker 1: years ago. She talked about the history of the area.

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Speaker 1: at the Iowa River. The only way that moment could

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Speaker 1: have been more Iowa is if I had been eating corn.

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Speaker 1: It was very reasonably priced. Like, looking back, I would

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Speaker 1: have been willing to pay triple the amount for that experience.

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Speaker 1: If the rest of the Airbnb experiences are even a

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Speaker 1: quarter as good as my experience was his past weekend,

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Speaker 1: created for the curious gentlemen. Let's close this out by

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Speaker 1: talking about tight ends players to target at their adp Sean,

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Speaker 1: Who do you have?

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01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: So?

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01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: I love me some Oj Howard, especially since he's sort

1364
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 4: of the end of this middle second tier for tight ends.

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01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: Obviously I mentioned earlier, I'm trying to get one of

1366
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 4: the top three tight ends if I can, but if

1367
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 4: I mess out, I'm trying to get Oj Howard at

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 4: the end of this next tier. You know, last year

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: he was tight end five in the first eleven weeks

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Speaker 4: before he had the miss the rest of the season

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01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: with foot and ankle injuries, and that was, you know, dealing.

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Speaker 3: With two quarterbacks to rotate hand and out. So I

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Speaker 3: love him.

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Speaker 4: This year, he's entering his third season at age twenty five,

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01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,959
Speaker 4: so's you know, we know tight ends they typically take

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 4: a little bit longer to develop, so he should be

1377
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 4: entering his prime this year. They also lost to Shaun

1378
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 4: Jackson Adam Humphries, so there's gonna be some more targets

1379
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 4: coming in, and they you know, they brought in for

1380
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: Shad Perryman to soak up a couple of those targets,

1381
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Speaker 4: So there's gonna be a ton of targets going oj

1382
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 4: Howard's way. So I love him.

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01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 3: I think he's not a huge twenty nineteen.

1384
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 4: I think it makes sense as far as my draft

1385
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 4: strategy to kind of get him, and if I don't

1386
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Speaker 4: get him, I'm probably punting on tight end altogether.

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Speaker 1: All right, Raybon, who do you have here?

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Speaker 5: So I actually I think that David Njoku was part

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01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 5: of this that tier as well. I really like him

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01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 5: this year, and it's actually, you know, a lot of

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01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 5: people would think that, you know, with Odell Beckham coming there,

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01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 5: that it would be a reason to like him a

1393
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 5: lot less. But I think that this actually, like having

1394
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: you know, him bumping down another notch on the target ladder,

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01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 5: actually helps him because I still don't think his target

1396
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 5: share will change that much. I think it will still

1397
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 5: be in that kind of fifteen percent range, which isn't

1398
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 5: too much different from.

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Speaker 2: A guy like O. J.

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Speaker 5: High, and I think he can be that same type

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 5: of efficient because if you look at Baker Mayfield and

1402
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 5: what he was doing last year, he was probably the

1403
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 5: most efficient to the non top target some and that's

1404
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Speaker 5: just kind of a thing that you know, quarterbacks like

1405
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 5: Mayfield that have experienced in that era, they know how

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Speaker 5: to spread the ball around.

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Speaker 2: But you know that was because Landry and.

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Speaker 5: Nijoker with the top two focuses of the defense, and

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 5: so you saw Mayfield have a lot of success throwing

1410
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 5: to Rashad Perriman, throwing to Rashard Higgins and those guys

1411
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 5: who were getting more of the single coverage. I think

1412
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Speaker 5: this year, you know, because of Beckham's presence, now you

1413
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 5: know you have to kind of devote a lot less

1414
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 5: resources to Nadjoku. So I think you could kind of

1415
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 5: see that similar type of efficiency that you saw from

1416
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Speaker 5: OJ Howard, who had benefited from the same thing in

1417
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay where they had Mike Evans and they had

1418
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 5: Deshaun Jackson and you just couldn't really devote your defensive

1419
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 5: attention to him. So I think I think this offense

1420
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 5: is going to be monstrous and be in the red

1421
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 5: zone a lot more even than last year.

1422
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Speaker 2: So I like Nijoku is kind.

1423
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 5: Of that last gasp before before you kind of have

1424
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 5: to really just sit back and wait till the end

1425
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Speaker 5: and get somebody cheaper.

1426
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I think if you miss those

1427
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: two guys, the person I'm probably targeting after them is

1428
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: Chris Herndon, who you can get later like in rounds

1429
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: eleven twelve, you know, outside of the top twelve at

1430
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: the position, but I think he has top ten potential

1431
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: entering his second season. He was very productive last year.

1432
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: Now one of the questions is whether so I guess

1433
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: there are a couple of questions with him. One going

1434
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: to a new offense with Adam Gase coming in, is

1435
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: he going to see the type of usage he saw

1436
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: last year? And then also with the addition of Jamison Crowder,

1437
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: is Crowder going to get in the middle of the

1438
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 1: field some of the targets that otherwise would have gone

1439
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: to Herndon. But still, Herndon was so good last year,

1440
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: and I think he showed a real connection with a

1441
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: developer quarterback and Sam Darnold that we could probably see

1442
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: that continue into his second year. So he's someone I'm

1443
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: looking to target and if it doesn't work out, like

1444
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. You got him in rounds eleven,

1445
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: round twelve, Like you just drop him and you add

1446
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: someone else at that point corner, who are you looking

1447
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: to fade?

1448
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: So the guys I'm looking to fade are Eric Brown

1449
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: and Evan Ingram.

1450
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 4: Now, to be fair, I have them ranked in line

1451
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 4: with ADP. I do think they're the number four number

1452
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 4: five tight ends. But like I mentioned earlier, I typically

1453
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: like to wait to take guys at the end of

1454
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 4: a tier, so I'm going to let people sort of

1455
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: trigger this mid tier by selecting them. I think both

1456
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 4: of them are going to regress just a little bit.

1457
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 4: I think they benefit last year from key players being out.

1458
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 4: But it kind of goes back to what I was

1459
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 4: saying earlier that there's such a big gap after the

1460
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 4: top three that you know, I think people sort of

1461
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 4: panic and they feel like they need to grab one

1462
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 4: of these guys. But you know, I have them a

1463
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 4: little bit farther down in my over so I think,

1464
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 4: you know, let your draft kind of dictate when the

1465
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 4: next route the tier goes, and then, like I said,

1466
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 4: I'll try to scoop up oj Howard later on but

1467
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: just to be clear, these guys are good tight ends,

1468
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 4: just with my draft strategy, they don't really fit into

1469
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 4: it quite well.

1470
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Raymond, what about you?

1471
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: So a guy to me is is Austin Hooper. I

1472
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 5: think he's kind of it kind of goes back to

1473
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 5: what Seawn just said. You know, people kind of looking

1474
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 5: on the board and they don't have a tight end

1475
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 5: yet and eight nine, ten and tight ends have come

1476
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 5: off the board and Austin Hooper is going, you know,

1477
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 5: within the top one hundred picks, and I just don't

1478
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 5: think that, you know, he's on that caliber of level

1479
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 5: with with these other guys like like in the joke

1480
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 5: or like a Howard who just athletically are so are

1481
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 5: so much better and you know, just still have kind

1482
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 5: of unrealized upside.

1483
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: I think we kind of see what Hooper and know

1484
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: what Hooper is, and.

1485
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 5: I think as Calvin Ridley kind of develops, I think,

1486
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 5: you know, he could even see lest target share.

1487
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: You know, Devon se Freeman is going to be back.

1488
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: So I think, you know.

1489
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 5: He's just not really a sexy pick or a pick

1490
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 5: that I think you need to make. If I missed

1491
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 5: out on that that that tier with you know, with

1492
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 5: the Howard tier and that kind of second tier, I

1493
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 5: would just wait a lot longer because I mean, there's

1494
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 5: so many other things you can do rather than kind

1495
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 5: of force a pick with with Austin Hooper. You know,

1496
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 5: you could take a chance on a guy that you

1497
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 5: know is getting an injury discount, like we'll see what happens.

1498
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 5: We don't know yet, So I wouldn't touch him yet.

1499
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 5: But you know Delaney Walker or or Greg Olsen or

1500
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 5: somebody like that, who you know, if if they're healthy,

1501
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 5: they're gonna easily probably outproduce Hooper. So I think there's

1502
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 5: a big drop off there, and he's a guy that's

1503
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 5: kind of just kind of slotted in there because of

1504
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 5: you know, you know, people start stop kind of getting

1505
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 5: worried about these tight ends there.

1506
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't. I wouldn't touch him now, how I

1507
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: would just I would just wait.

1508
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: The guy I'm looking to avoid is Eric abron Shan

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned him. I mean, I don't know how much

1510
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: he needs to be said. A lot of touchdown production

1511
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: he had last year, like a very touchdown dependent guy.

1512
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: I think it's very reasonable to expect he scores fewer

1513
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns this year, probably won't leave the league again in

1514
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. And then also just the additions are just say,

1515
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: the return of Jack Doyle creates some serious questions as

1516
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: to how much usage Eric Ybron is going to have,

1517
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: and then the additions of Devin Funchius and Funci just

1518
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,839
Speaker 1: has a skill set that kind of overlaps with Eric Ebron's.

1519
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 1: And then also the addition of Paris Campbell as someone

1520
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: who's a legitimate threat to see some targets. So I

1521
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: think there are lots of questions about Eric Ebron, as

1522
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: Sean said, a really talented guy. I think it's just

1523
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: a question of how much is he going to be

1524
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: used and can you find someone who might have similar

1525
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: usage or more usage later in the draft. Let's talk

1526
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: about some deep sleepers, Sean, who you have?

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01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 4: So I'm going with Jordan Reed, who kind of had

1528
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 4: a bizarre season last year where he stayed relatively healthy

1529
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 4: but wasn't the points per game guy we're used to.

1530
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 4: But I mean, even looking at that, he's managed to

1531
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 4: be the tight end nine when he was healthy weeks

1532
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 4: one through thirteen, so he didn't do as bad as

1533
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 4: people kind of perceive. Right now, you know, the Redskins.

1534
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,440
Speaker 4: They still have just a ton of mediocre wide receivers.

1535
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 4: It's not like could be all on the field at

1536
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 4: the same time, so he's still going to demand a

1537
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 4: pretty high target share. So I just think, you know,

1538
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 4: like I mentioned earlier, I don't take backup tight end.

1539
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 4: So this is purely a best ballplay where you know,

1540
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 4: if you're you're drafting your second or third tight end,

1541
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 4: just take a guy like Jordan Reid, who we know

1542
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 4: has a ceiling, and you know, as long as he's healthy,

1543
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 4: will put up numbers. So you've at tight end twenty.

1544
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 4: I think he's He's a pretty big steal, all right,

1545
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 4: right on what you got?

1546
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 3: I like that.

1547
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 5: I like that Jordan Repick. I think he is getting

1548
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 5: slept on. Although the one thing I actually probably would

1549
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 5: be the opposite I would probably take. I would rather

1550
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,520
Speaker 5: take him as my starting tight end in a traditional redraft,

1551
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 5: so if he gets.

1552
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: Hurt, I can drop him.

1553
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1554
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 5: Well, I'd be a little more cautious because I think,

1555
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 5: like the injury projection for him is probably higher than

1556
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 5: most in the weeks kind of field. But but I

1557
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 5: do I think he's way under that. I think he

1558
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 5: could be going ten picks higher. My guy is this

1559
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 5: is a little bit more of a you know, deep

1560
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 5: out there kind of projecting forward, kind of connecting the dots.

1561
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 5: But Mike Gaseki, you know, he's a second year player.

1562
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 5: You know, we already know that, you know, tit Ands

1563
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 5: really struggled to put it together in the first year.

1564
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: He was not really a great environment. Last year you

1565
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 5: know in Miami still might not be. But you know,

1566
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 5: he's he's got a lot of athleticism. He was taking

1567
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 5: very highly in the draft, had had good college production

1568
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 5: his last year at Penn State.

1569
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: You know guys who you know catch over, you know, fifty.

1570
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 5: Fifty balls as a tight end in their senior year,

1571
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 5: they tend to have a top a top twelve PPR

1572
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 5: season about about fifty percent of the time within their

1573
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 5: first three years in the league.

1574
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 2: So I think the Secy's the guy you got to.

1575
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 5: Look out for, because if you look at the Dolphins

1576
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 5: right now, number one, they'd have a lot of interest

1577
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 5: in develop in kind of seeing what they have in

1578
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 5: him because it's a new coaching staff and there's no

1579
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 5: real receiver that is going to necessarily stand that stands

1580
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 5: out right now as a guy that's going to command

1581
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 5: a high percentage of the target. So I think there's

1582
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 5: like an outside shot if Kasseki actually had you know,

1583
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 5: mixed strides and puts it all together.

1584
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: That he could lead this team in uh in targets.

1585
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 5: Because you have Kenny Stills, who kind of usually gets

1586
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 5: about fourteen fifteen percent of the targets a most. He's

1587
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 5: kind of a deep ball, situational deep deep ball guy.

1588
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 5: At this point, you have Devonte Parker who still hasn't

1589
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 5: put it all together. You know, I think he has

1590
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 5: a decent chance to kind of get a new new

1591
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 5: life with the new regime as well, but you know,

1592
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 5: he hasn't really done anything. You have Albert Wilson and

1593
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 5: Jakin Grant who probably are they would probably be you know,

1594
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 5: a lot higher up on the tonal pole, but they're

1595
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 5: both coming off serious injuries and you know, we don't

1596
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 5: really know exactly where they are in their their timeline

1597
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 5: at this point. And then you have Drake Kenyan Drake

1598
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 5: who you know will catch you out of passes, but

1599
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 5: you know he's gonna we don't know exactly what his

1600
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 5: role is going to be. Orf He's going to be

1601
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 5: used more as a pass catcher. Than he was under

1602
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 5: Adam gase when he used probably more as a receiver

1603
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 5: year than he.

1604
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 2: Was really he as a running back.

1605
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 5: So I think there's a chance that Gasecki kind of

1606
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 5: steps up and and and makes one of those kind

1607
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 5: of second year jumps with it. With the new coach

1608
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 5: and staff, I think it's actually a better fit for

1609
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 5: him now that he nady has a new coach and staff.

1610
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 5: He also put on some weight, so that's going to

1611
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 5: help him with blocking, which is one of his downsides,

1612
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 5: and I think that will allow him to stay on

1613
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 5: the field more, which could also add up to maybe

1614
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 5: an extra Tiger so per game.

1615
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: I like that it's interesting in that people talked about

1616
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: Noah fant as if he was this athletic freak that

1617
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: we had never seen the likes of, and people are

1618
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 1: kind of forgetting like that's what Mike Kiseki was last year,

1619
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: Like they're they're actually like very comparable, and Gyseki is going,

1620
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe thirty picks later, but he has the

1621
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: extra year of experience and potential for more targets on

1622
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: his offense. So I think there's, uh, there's actually a

1623
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: lot to like about him in Miami.

1624
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 5: Then if there's any like I hate to say, like

1625
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 5: the comparisons, but if there's any chance that there's like

1626
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 5: a second year guy who is this quote unquote year's

1627
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 5: George Kittle that comes out of nowhere, he would be

1628
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 5: my pick.

1629
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, and I mean you can see it.

1630
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: He does have that type of athleticism. Mark Andrews is

1631
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: the guy that I'm going with. I think he's kind

1632
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: of been forgotten. He was actually really productive last year,

1633
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: especially for a rookie tight end. And then you look

1634
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: at how they have rehuled the past catching corps for

1635
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens. None of the guys that Lamar Jackson would

1636
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: have had a chance to establish a connection with last

1637
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: year are there this year. And I think Andrews is

1638
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: clearly better than Hayden Hurst, who was the first rounder

1639
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: who was drafted at tight end last year. I think

1640
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: Andrews is going to be the guy who gets most

1641
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: of the snaps. And I mean, and honestly wouldn't be

1642
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: a surprise to me, just kind of based on Lamar

1643
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: Jackson's style of play, Like I don't know if he

1644
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: wants to be throwing it down the field two rookies,

1645
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be surprising if Andrews actually led the team

1646
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: in targets. You know, who knows what he would do

1647
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: with those targets if they're going to be valuable targets.

1648
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: But I think Andrews going and around you know, thirteen

1649
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: or so as the twentieth twenty second tight end off

1650
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: the board. I think there's a lot of potential there

1651
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: for a guy to continue to improve in his second season.

1652
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: Any thoughts from either of you on Mark Andrews.

1653
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: I'd like I like him a lot.

1654
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 5: He's another guy who I think I would kind of

1655
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 5: put in that bucket of Okay, if there's a kind

1656
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 5: of a tight end that could ascend to elite status

1657
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 5: out of seemingly nowhere, I would think it would be Andrews.

1658
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 5: He had just a lot of success with you know,

1659
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 5: some targets, even down the field with Lamar last year.

1660
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 5: And he was another guy who I believe was incredibly

1661
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 5: productive in college if I'm not mistaken, and I think

1662
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 5: that's usually the sixty two catches his senior year, which

1663
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 5: nine hundred. He almost had a thousand yard season, which

1664
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 5: is almost unheard of for a tight end in college.

1665
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 5: So a lot of those things all kind of are

1666
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 5: indicative of professional production and success, and so I think

1667
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 5: the real the only reason I still have him kind

1668
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 5: of ranked in that in those twenty ranges because and

1669
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 5: I might kind of update this as the season progressive,

1670
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 5: I still have Lamar Jackson, you know, projected for you know,

1671
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 5: a very kind of outliningly low number of pass attempts,

1672
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna have to kind of see how I

1673
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 5: want to go about tweaking that at all. But if

1674
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 5: his targets, I actually have him leading the Ravens in

1675
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 5: target share right now. So it's really just a matter

1676
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 5: for me of Lamar Jackson's attempts because I am very

1677
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 5: bullish on Andrews as well, and I could see him

1678
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 5: having a big year.

1679
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: So I like that one.

1680
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, he I think he's a good you know,

1681
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 4: if you're taking three tight ends or even two good

1682
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 4: best ball guy, you don't really know when he's gonna

1683
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 4: have his.

1684
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 3: Eighty yard touchdown.

1685
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 4: Like there are some games where you know, Lamar Jackson

1686
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 4: throw for one hundred and twenty yards and eighty of

1687
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 4: it was one pass and for Andrews. So and I

1688
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 4: do I do like their you know, their depth chart.

1689
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 4: They trim down from ten tight ends to three. That

1690
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 4: narrows down you know, the tight end competition at least.

1691
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like that.

1692
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: Okay, let's close it out. Chris, what are the pieces

1693
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,480
Speaker 1: that you are working on for the coming weeks?

1694
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 5: So I have a piece on guys I'm fading in

1695
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 5: basketball right now that's coming out. I mentioned the piece

1696
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 5: on you know, the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, and I'm

1697
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 5: going to have a piece on David Ghettoman and all

1698
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 5: the just the foolery that's been going on with the

1699
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 5: New York Giants, and also just pieces on players that

1700
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 5: I'm taking above ADP in basketball week.

1701
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 2: So a lot of basketball focused stuffcause I think that's.

1702
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 5: What most most of you guys out there are are

1703
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 5: paying attention to.

1704
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: And Sean, what projects are you working on right now?

1705
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 4: I'm looking through some of the weeks two through seventeen

1706
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 4: lines are posted, So I'm going through all the lines

1707
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 4: to see if there's any potential value there in writing

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 4: that up.

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01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 1: Nice, be sure to send that over to me so

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01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: I can bet those all right, everyone, be sure to

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01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: keep an eye out for all of that until then.

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