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Speaker 1: All right, it is a Friday. Let's wrap up the

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Speaker 1: week with a strong one. The Blazing Five off another

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Speaker 1: winning week in one hour from now. Like the numbers,

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Speaker 1: Jmack likes the Dogs this week, I'm going with some

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Speaker 1: flavor favorites. Great to be here, so, I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Falcons not that fascinating. But there's

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Speaker 1: a bigger picture here that I'm watching all over. I

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Speaker 1: sought at Michigan and I'm seeing it all over for

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So I love the fact, first of all,

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Speaker 1: that Todd Bowles ripped the players after the game. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's the player's fault. You can't lose a game when

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Speaker 1: the other team has nineteen penalties like Atlanta did and.

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Speaker 3: You lost brutal.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm not sure Todd Bowles is a great head coach.

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Speaker 1: He's a great defensive coordinator, so got fired with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: They've lost five to six, third straight season in Tampa

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Speaker 1: where they start strong and they fade fast. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's a great coach. But the Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield component here is interesting. So Baker lost two great

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators last couple of years, Liam Cohen. He's in

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Speaker 1: first place with the Jags, and Dave Canalis first place

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Speaker 1: with the Panthers. So Baker's always been a great comeback story.

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Speaker 1: But Baker Mayfield is one in nine in primetime games.

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Speaker 1: He's not mahomes Allen, He's not Stafford, He's not that

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Speaker 1: kind of talent. He's very dependent on his coordinator. And

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Speaker 1: what did Tampa do when they lost Liam Cohen? You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't like they hired a guy who was in house.

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Speaker 1: Now the offense stinks. Baker didn't get worse. They added

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Speaker 1: in Muka, the receiver from why Ohio State. They should

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Speaker 1: be a better offense, Muka, they should be a better offense.

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Speaker 1: They're worse, far worse. What did the Eagles do when

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Speaker 1: they lost Kellen Moore? They hired in house. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: offense broken. What did the Lions do when Ben Johnson left, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's just hire the guy down the Hall. Lions offense

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Speaker 1: is not the same Tampa Bay did it, Michigan football.

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Speaker 1: Let's replace hardball with a guy down two doors down

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Speaker 1: in the facility stop. The NFL is too big of

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Speaker 1: a business to hire proximity. Sometimes it works, But if

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Speaker 1: you lose Ben Johnson, if you're losing Liam Cohen and

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Speaker 1: Dave Canal's who are head coaches? Is the guy you

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Speaker 1: give the job to, the in house guy? Is he

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Speaker 1: going to be an NFL head coach someday? So Baker,

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Speaker 1: last year top five red zone offense in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Now they're twenty second. How they added a great wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Last year, they were first in the league on third downs,

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Speaker 1: Now they're eighteenth. Everything has dropped off a mat. They

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Speaker 1: star receiver out of Ohio State, and now they're a

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Speaker 1: bottom feeder. So I know everybody thinks I'm crazy on

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Speaker 1: this offensive defensive coach. I think you should hire offensive coaches.

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Speaker 1: I think there are exceptions, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is a great coach. The problem being if

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Speaker 1: you hire an offensive coach and he does nail it

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Speaker 1: with the OC. The OC within the year two leaves,

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Speaker 1: then you've got to nail it again. And Todd Bowles went, oh,

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Speaker 1: he nailed it again. And then that guy leads who's

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Speaker 1: going to go three for three on hiring brilliant offensive coordinators?

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Speaker 1: So that's the danger and a defensive head coach. I

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Speaker 1: like Baker, but Baker's not a great quarterback. He gets hot,

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Speaker 1: he's a streaky quarterback, but he is very reliant on

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Speaker 1: a sharp young coordinator. The Eagles did it, The Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: a whole different issues there, but Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Football did it.

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Speaker 1: The greater the candidate who leaves, the greater the candidate

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Speaker 1: The NFL is a massive business. The guy down the

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Speaker 1: hallway is not the best candidate. Ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 4: It's an excuse the book you don't make excuses. You

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Speaker 4: to care enough where it hurts. It got to mean

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Speaker 4: something to you. It's more than a her livelihood. How

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Speaker 4: well do you know your job? How well can you

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Speaker 4: You can't sugarcoat that. It was inexcusable and he has

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Speaker 4: no answer for it. That's for no excuse for it.

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Speaker 4: And that's what you're telling him a lot mirror.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine an NBA coach doing that?

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Speaker 1: So, sometimes it is on the players. So now I

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Speaker 1: Can I offer another GM and a coach who could be?

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Speaker 1: It's up in Buffalo. Buffalo's playing the Patriots this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Let's say the Patriots beat the Bills again this season

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Speaker 1: and at the very brisk business by the way, heard Harold,

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Speaker 1: the headline is Patriots clinch Division in Vrabel's first year,

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Speaker 1: MVP Allen falls short again. How's that gonna play in Buffalo?

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Speaker 1: How's that gonna play? Worst receiving room in the league

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Speaker 1: for a star quarterback? Matt Stafford has Sean McVay has

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Speaker 1: an array of weapons, Devontae Adams and Pooka. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you could have traded for Devonte Adams he was on

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Speaker 1: the market. Greg cosel Truthbaum yesterday on our show about

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Speaker 6: It'd be hard pressed to name an impact player that

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Speaker 6: certainly don't have a receiving corps. If we look at

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Speaker 6: you Kir and say he's their best receiver, he's clearly

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Speaker 6: a number three type. He's very good at that, but

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Speaker 6: he's a number three type. So they're really not that

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Speaker 6: good a football team. And I know that there's been

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Speaker 6: a lot to talk about, well, this is Josh Allen

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Speaker 6: is so silly. They're just not that good overall from

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Speaker 1: Lat week, Josh Allen completed twenty two passes. Fifteen were

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Speaker 1: to tight ends and running backs. It's the weakest wide

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Speaker 1: Bean when he was called out by local media instead

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Speaker 1: of owning it because this is an awful receiving room.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a number one or a number two

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean went after the local Buffalo radio hosts.

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Speaker 5: You guys were bitching in twenty eighteen about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: You guys wanted Josh Rosen, and now you guys are

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Speaker 3: I don't get it.

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Speaker 6: You got to have a show and you got to

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Speaker 6: have something to bitch about. But bitching about wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Really, worst receiving room in the league.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's the quarterback, best deep ball thrower in the league.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Brandon Bean brought back twenty of twenty

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Speaker 3: He thinks this group's good. They're not.

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Speaker 1: They've got a handful of really good players at the

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Speaker 1: te deadline. By the way, Jacoby Myers was available, they

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Speaker 1: talked to him, didn't land him. You know where he

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Speaker 1: went Jacksonville three straight games with a touchdown. Jacoby Myers,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean both they need to win

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Speaker 1: and they are favored, and they may match up very

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Speaker 1: well with the Patriots, but they have the world's best

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Speaker 1: football player at the most important position. I had Mark

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Speaker 1: Schlareth on this week and I asked Mark, I said,

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Speaker 1: you know you've been around the Bills, and his quote was,

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Speaker 1: I was thoroughly unimpressed with Buffalo as a football team,

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Speaker 1: blown away by their quarterback, unimpressed with everything else. Greg

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Speaker 1: Cosel watches the film, you watch the games. I do too,

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Speaker 1: So Todd Bowles may not be a head coach, and

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Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott is more than capable. And Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean has hit on some really good players. But when

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Speaker 1: he's barking at local radio hosts, my take his last

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Speaker 1: week is a prime example of why this team feels

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Speaker 1: out of the Super Bowl bubble. Twenty two completions fifteen

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Speaker 1: probably right. Jacoby Myers on the market, Davonte Adams again,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the Rams go out Land Nate Landman, Davonte Adams,

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Forbes and nail every draft pick defensively for three years.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think Buffalo's that good. And what if

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Speaker 1: New England in Mike Vrabel's first year and the kid

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Speaker 1: that's not You're not going to pull the trigger like

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Speaker 1: Todd bole's getting fired after the season. I think this

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Speaker 1: game is huge for the GM and the head coach

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Speaker 1: because Buffalo's got the owner. He's a good owner, new stadium,

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Speaker 1: star quarterback, everything else to me on the table, everything

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Speaker 1: Mac blazing five in one hour. A lot of interesting

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just looking at this Bill's Patriots game. Interesting

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Speaker 7: sounds like you like the Patriots too, Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I think a rested team at home that does pretty

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Speaker 1: much everything well against a Buffalo team with a superstar

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Speaker 1: quarterback who's now turning the ball over, has no deep threat.

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Speaker 1: I think I get the better coach in New England.

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Speaker 1: I like home, better coach, well rested, healthier, and oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, doesn't really have a bad unit.

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Speaker 8: That's fair. I'm looking at the last meeting.

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Speaker 7: So Buffalo fumbled inside their own twenty handing the Patriots point.

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Speaker 3: Well, they did that last week too, Josh.

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Speaker 7: Allen interception in the red zone of Josh Allen fumble

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Speaker 7: near midfield. Like they made a lot of mistakes, eleven penalties,

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Speaker 7: weren't really buttoned up early in the season.

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Speaker 8: I think we get a max effort from the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Oh I do too.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying if they lose, that is a bad

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Speaker 1: Monday in Buffalo.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I think you're spot on McDermott. They want

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Speaker 7: to find a real estate.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing against the general manager, but it's like,

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Speaker 1: you can't have the best quarterback in the league and

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Speaker 1: be awful at receiver.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know Baltimore is dealing with that too, right

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Speaker 7: They Flowers is better better than anything anything Buffalo hapen.

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Speaker 7: But you know, kin Kate is good, Knocks is good.

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Speaker 8: I like them both.

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Speaker 1: But Dalton kidd game got hurt earlier this year, and

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Speaker 1: the offense is like, really, it's like you can't reel

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Speaker 1: because a tight end. By the way, the Rams have

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Speaker 1: four tight ends. They can all play.

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Speaker 8: Yeah four.

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Speaker 7: When do we have a reckoning with quarterback salaries because

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Speaker 7: Josh Allen salary is it's onerous, Like, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: don't know how you build a team.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's I'm not saying it's not harder,

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Speaker 1: but it seems to me the Rams hit on all

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Speaker 1: their draft picks. Therefore they can go get Devonte Adams

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Speaker 1: and steal Nate Landman. I mean, Howie Roseman stole the

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Speaker 1: linebacker last year, became a Pro Bowler you gotta find

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Speaker 1: some value you on the market. I keep saying this.

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Speaker 1: I never understood whether the Patriots like go with Jacoby Myers.

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Speaker 1: I don't get what the Raiders did. He goes to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: He's a touchdown machine.

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Speaker 8: They think he's a problem in the locker room.

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Speaker 7: I don't know think that's the case. Trevor Lawrence loves him.

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Speaker 3: So I got into this discussion last night.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about Sdor Sanders and he's a fan

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Speaker 1: But it's really interesting that I think the NFL wanted

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Speaker 3: They did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should have drafted him because we need one

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Speaker 3: J Mack with the News.

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Speaker 2: No, no, this is the herd line news.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's go to that Cowboys vikings game Colin,

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Speaker 8: very good match away.

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Speaker 3: I missed my blazing part.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Dallas obviously needs it badly. At six six and one,

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Speaker 7: they are unlikely to make the playoffs, just an eleven

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Speaker 7: uh here's Dak Prescott talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Just gotta go win every game. I mean that's all

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Speaker 3: I can control. No root against them regardless.

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Speaker 7: So so whether we are in this position or not,

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Speaker 7: I got to control what I can control and go

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is last week. You did this too. You

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Speaker 7: Well, if them being the Eagles obviously in the division,

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Speaker 7: they want to catch them, I'm sorry for talking to

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Speaker 7: you out of games.

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Speaker 8: I'll just say this. I think Dak became a father.

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Speaker 8: Is that this year? You know he had the brown.

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Speaker 7: He seems so with it at the podium, every time

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Speaker 3: He just he just really very relaxed.

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Speaker 8: I like him, man, I like this.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a hard guy not to let the problem.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: The tough part is is the contract they gave him.

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Speaker 7: You know, the richest contract in the league.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the for the record, this is Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: So it's I'm not saying it makes it easier, but

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Speaker 1: Dallas is making all sorts of deals.

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Speaker 7: Well they're trying, Yeah, they are they shuffling the deck

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Speaker 7: chairs on the Titanic?

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Speaker 8: Well were they making deals to get into the way?

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Speaker 1: Bought back twenty to twenty two players, So they're like,

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Speaker 1: we're satisfied. Jerry's like, We're not so. And I also

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Speaker 1: think you got to give Dak credit. It's a noisy operation.

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Speaker 1: It's a family business. This is not the easiest place

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Speaker 7: Am Cowboys five and a half. So even if they win,

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Speaker 7: we know the Eagles are not losing to the Raiders, right,

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Speaker 7: that's not happening, right, So I just don't see where

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Speaker 3: I agree, it just feels.

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Speaker 8: And then you go to the offseason.

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Speaker 7: We got the picking stuff, and then we're paying them

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Speaker 7: three defensive tackles a ton.

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Speaker 1: Of money, but two first round picks, which you can

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Speaker 1: getting a pass rush without Micah, you don't have to

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Speaker 3: I would get a right tackle.

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Speaker 1: My guess is Dallas goes right tackle offensive tackle in

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Speaker 3: I'll argue this all day.

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Speaker 1: I like Dallas's future if they move those picks, because

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Speaker 8: I just you'd like to talk about roster strength.

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Speaker 7: There's at least seven teams with better rosters in the

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Speaker 8: It's not even close. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to see town sound too down on Dallas,

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Speaker 7: butlet's get positive. Let's talk Lions Rams. Huge matchup on

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable accuracy and anticipation. Jared's played really great, you know,

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Speaker 3: A great job of being able to build.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've been very open and very clear about

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: Back when that thing went down, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: It's the It's the best trade for both teams in

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Speaker 1: you can go to any sport. Everybody won with that deal.

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Speaker 1: The Lions needed a little younger quarterback and lots to

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Speaker 3: Both hit it out of the park.

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Speaker 7: Where are you on this game because six is a

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Speaker 7: backdoor easily.

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Speaker 1: Lions defense is struggling, but more problematic, their offense is

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Speaker 1: not good on third or fourth down. And if you

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Speaker 1: go on the road against the high powered offense, you

440
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Speaker 1: got to pick up first downs, okay, and they're Detroit

441
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Speaker 1: is punting more and not moving the change. The problem

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Speaker 1: with Detroit is are they gonna get the Rams? Are

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Speaker 1: gonna get thirteen fourteen possessions because they they're struggling to

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Speaker 1: extend drives. It's not a lack of talent, it's a

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Speaker 1: lack of third down conversion.

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Speaker 8: It's almost like you're looking at my scream.

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Speaker 7: So remember Dan Campbell couldn't get a fourth down to

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Speaker 7: save his life.

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Speaker 8: Back to back weeks.

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Speaker 7: He didn't go for fourth down once against Dallas. Is

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Speaker 7: he in his own head? I don't know, because, like

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Speaker 7: you said, extending drives are gonna be huge, Colin, And

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Speaker 7: I'll just add this fifty four percent chance for the

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Speaker 7: Lions to make the playoffs. Gambler, Dan Campbell, He's gonna

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Speaker 7: probably go for a few fourth downs here, right. This

456
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Speaker 7: is gonna be one of these games where it's like,

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Speaker 7: oh my gosh, we need we got.

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Speaker 3: To have it.

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Speaker 1: This has been the year in the NFL, the year

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Speaker 1: of coordinator value, Eagles, Lions, Bucks, all these high powered offense,

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Speaker 1: all these just juggernauts. Go look at Tampa's numbers last

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Speaker 1: year in Detroit's and they didn't go big, broad wide

463
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Speaker 1: search on replacing excellent coordinators who became excellent head coaches.

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Speaker 1: That is not a knock on the guys who got

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Speaker 1: the jobs when you lose. Ben Johnson and Liam Cohen

466
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Speaker 1: are those guys are great, great offensive guys. So I

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Speaker 1: mean to me, I start looking around this league, we

468
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Speaker 1: always think, oh, it's it's just quarterback with Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: didn't get worse. They can't pick up first downs on

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Speaker 1: third or four. That's not a Jared Goff issue.

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Speaker 7: And Ben Johnson currently in the playoff, Liam Cohen currently

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs, DA Dave can Alice in the mix.

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Speaker 7: Kellen Moore, Well, the Saints aren't good, but they've been

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Speaker 7: plucky for the last one.

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Speaker 8: That's a that's an interesting theory. All right, final story call,

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Speaker 8: let's go to Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, the inflammatory comments in Cincinnati this week. Okay, that's

478
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Speaker 7: that's a bit of a shocker. They are facing the Ravens.

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Speaker 7: They are home dogs. But interestingly, after Burrow's comments about

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Speaker 7: not having fun, Jamar Chase chimed in and he seems

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Speaker 7: just stunned that these are real comments.

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Speaker 8: How much do you think Joe Burrow loves football?

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Speaker 10: I thought this is an AI. I'm not Does this

484
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Speaker 10: really happen though? They that's real today? Yeah, nothing's wrong

485
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Speaker 10: with a little emotion at the end of the day,

486
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Speaker 10: especially coming back from injury. The man, the man loves

487
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Speaker 10: the game. I think he loves the game from what

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Speaker 10: I what I've.

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Speaker 3: Learned from him.

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Speaker 10: Also at the end of the day, you know what

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Speaker 10: I'm saying. So I can't really say what he feels

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Speaker 10: at the end of the day, but from what I see,

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Speaker 10: he seems the same every day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: This week it had a little Andrew LUCKVI, little Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence vibe. I don't but I'm going to defend Burrow

497
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Speaker 1: because Burrows had to go into rehab multiple times. Rehab

498
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Speaker 1: is really hard for all pro athletes. It's a grind

499
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Speaker 1: and there's no payoff, so rehab is brutal. If you

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Speaker 1: have to do it once in your career. I think

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Speaker 1: Burrough's done it three to four times. Secondly, is the

502
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Speaker 1: organization has failed to protect him. We talk about it

503
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Speaker 1: on this show all the time. The offensive line is

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Speaker 1: the insurance policy. The quarterbacks, the Bentley. You'd never own

505
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Speaker 1: a Bentley without an insurance policy. The Bengals have failed

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Speaker 1: Burrow on the offensive line atrocious six years in a row.

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Speaker 3: So this league is not.

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Speaker 1: That compliment, not that confusing, not that confounding, not that complicated.

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Speaker 1: Get a great quarterback, protect great quarterback, and then draft

510
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Speaker 1: people who get the other team's quarterback. They have failed

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Speaker 1: at number two miserably in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 8: This is crazy.

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Speaker 7: So I'm looking at his career arc. He's played six seasons.

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Speaker 7: Three of them he's played ten or fewer games. Like

515
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Speaker 7: if we would call him Zion Williamson if he had

516
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Speaker 7: not gone to a super Bowl. I mean, Joe Burrow

517
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Speaker 7: went to the super Bowl in year two, then he

518
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Speaker 7: went to the AFC Championship and then nothing.

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Speaker 8: I don't know when he's going to get back to

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Speaker 8: the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Column.

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Speaker 7: Like, I'm not saying it's over for Burrow and Cincinnati,

523
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Speaker 7: but talk about this, what's their path to success? He

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Speaker 7: has won eight of his last nine stars.

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Speaker 1: That's why I love the Bengals this weekend, everybody's staring

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Speaker 1: at the record. He wins every time he starts. He's

527
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Speaker 1: an incredible winning quarterback. Baltimore's offense is completely broken Cincinnati

528
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Speaker 1: last week if not for kind of a fluky pick

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Speaker 1: six that one that was bad at that to a

530
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Speaker 1: flukey play, you maybe have one of those in your career.

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Speaker 1: They beat Buffalo at Buffalo in a snow store.

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Speaker 7: As a different discussion, yeah, I will ask you. Obviously

533
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Speaker 7: the Bengals aren't going to want to entertain a Burrow trade, right,

534
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Speaker 7: but could anybody make it moderately interesting? A sweet and

535
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Speaker 7: a sick pot of picks players and Bengals.

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Speaker 1: He's an Ohio kid. I don't think the Brown family

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Speaker 1: would listen.

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Speaker 8: What if he went to them, because we know he

539
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Speaker 8: went to the team and.

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Speaker 7: Was unhappy last season, Remember meeting with Zach Taylor after

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Speaker 7: the game.

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Speaker 8: He's pissed.

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Speaker 7: What if he does something like that this in the offseason. Guys,

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Speaker 7: this is not working. We're not going anywhere. Yeah, what's

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Speaker 7: your game plan? I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: If you come out of college and let's say you're

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Speaker 1: a very talented attorney. You go to Yale, you go

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Speaker 1: to cal you go to Virginia, great schools, Michigan, and

549
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Speaker 1: you're an attorney. You can pick the city you want

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Speaker 1: to go to in the law firm. The better you

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Speaker 1: are as an athlete in college, generally you'll get picked

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Speaker 1: by the worse organization. Joe Burrow got a Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow got a bad break. Golf got a good one, right,

554
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Speaker 1: not the first year, but Goff got a good woe

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Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher. I mean, you start mahomes owns is unbelievably

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Speaker 1: and by the way, Lamar Jordan Love. Sometimes you get

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Speaker 1: the break.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then other times you're like Lebron Kevin Durant, Joe.

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Speaker 7: You get crap franchises and it stinks because in the

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Speaker 7: NFL you're kind of locked in.

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Speaker 8: They get double franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: Well, even in the NBA. Now, I was talking to

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Speaker 1: Danny Parkins about this. In the NBA, they make it unfair,

564
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Speaker 1: like you have to give up hundreds of millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars if you leave now the team that drafted you. Right,

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Speaker 1: so they think, well, it'll keep players in a local market.

567
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Speaker 1: But what if that local market has allows the owner

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Speaker 1: sagging attendance, a bad coach, and a cheap billionaire owner.

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Speaker 1: So you're trapped. The NBA says, well, if you stay,

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Speaker 1: we'll pay us so much more three hundred million. And

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Speaker 1: that's supposed to be a player's league. Let players go

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Speaker 1: where they want to go. I understand a team drafting them,

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Speaker 1: but you should allow players. Stop worrying about protecting billionaires,

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Speaker 1: protect your talent.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the billionaires have it as socialism.

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Speaker 7: Basically, everybody's going to get their guy, they get to

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Speaker 7: keep them, and you're kind of if you're Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 7: I feel bad.

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Speaker 9: For the guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I think NBA players get hosed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you'd have to give up one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 8: You can kind of make up for that. Another area's marketing,

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Speaker 8: not one hundred million.

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Speaker 3: A lot of guys sell shoes.

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Speaker 7: So you want to win and have fun and enjoy

586
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Speaker 7: your life for one hundred fifty million, or just get

587
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Speaker 7: paid three hundred million.

588
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Speaker 8: To hate life.

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Speaker 1: Again, it's relative to their industry. I nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: hear this, but anyway, Jmack with the.

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Speaker 2: News, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jmck and I have talked about this. When you pay

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Speaker 1: your quarterback what you're paying Josh Allen or you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know that you know the drill mahomes

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. It's harder to construct a roster. It's very

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Speaker 1: hard to draft. You know, all the anonymous trolls on

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Speaker 1: the internet, they're brilliant drafters. I know these guys. It's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to draft. You just don't know, especially

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Speaker 1: positions like wide receiver. There were some ego and a

609
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Speaker 1: big personality at wide receiver, and you know, some guys

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Speaker 1: just it doesn't work. You're asking young people to, you know,

611
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: come into a sport, travel cross country, different told law offense.

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Speaker 3: It's hard.

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Speaker 1: I think it's much harder than drafting in basketball because

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Speaker 1: you can spot basketball talent.

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Speaker 3: I always tell the story.

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Speaker 1: I was in Hartford, Connecticut watching my daughter play in

617
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Speaker 1: a tournament and there was seven eight teams playing at once.

618
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I sit down next to a coach and I said,

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Speaker 1: who's that girl like four courts away, And he goes, oh, yeah,

620
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Speaker 1: she's the best player, like seventh eighth grade girls. He's like,

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Speaker 1: she's already getting a talk from Division one schools. You

622
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Speaker 1: can spot basketball talent in one second. Football it's maturity.

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Speaker 1: It's not the biggest, the strongest. It's heart, it's intangibles.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's hard and I understand that, and

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Speaker 1: Brett Veach is really good with the Chiefs, but Kansas

626
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Speaker 1: City can be officially eliminated this weekend. Should be noted

627
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady went healthy, made the playoffs nineteen straight years.

628
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Speaker 1: Tom took very favorable team deals. So last week was

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Speaker 1: the home game against Texans. It was must win, and

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Speaker 1: they got worked. And I said on the time at

631
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Speaker 1: the time, Houston's got better players. So Kansas City just

632
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Speaker 1: doesn't look the part. And this morning I was saying

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Speaker 1: this to the team. I said, name the top ten

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Speaker 1: Chiefs players not on resume or legacy, guys who are

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Speaker 1: playing at a high level right now. Number one is Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Number two is a center Creed Humphrey, and number three

637
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Speaker 1: is a corner Trent McDuffie. But the time you get

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Speaker 1: to the fourth best player, you're saying, well, I mean

639
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is having a down year, or maybe he's old. Well, ha,

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00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Trey Smith is usually good. He's taken a small step back.

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Speaker 1: You know, Travis Kelsey's had some drops, but he's been reasonably.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who the fourth best player is. They

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Speaker 1: have an offensive tackle issue. Conversely, let's go to a

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Speaker 1: team that also has an expensive quarterback but a more

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Speaker 1: team friendly deal, Matt Stafford Rams. Let's go to their

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Speaker 1: ten best players, folks. They're all having great years Stafford,

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Speaker 1: Puka Nakua, Jared Vers, Devonte Adams, Kevin Dotson, Steve Avila.

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Speaker 1: The guards are great, Kyron Williams, poonah Ford has been unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: Byron Young, Nate Landman. I didn't mention any of their

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Speaker 1: good tight ends. They've got safeties. I like, I didn't

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Speaker 1: mention any of their safeties. They got two really good safeties.

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Speaker 1: So my point is, trust your eyes. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who the Chief's fourth best player is I think carloftis

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Speaker 1: a little overpaid, big salary cap next year.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'd be comfortable with it.

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Speaker 1: So this is not anti Kansas City. Kareem Hunt isn't

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Speaker 1: either leading rusher. He was with me out of the

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Speaker 1: league a couple of years ago. Like, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think to me, the Rams and the Eagles and the

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Speaker 1: Packers and the Lions, A lot of these teams who

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Speaker 1: are also paying their quarterback Jared Goff and Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. You can get around it, but I just

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Speaker 1: don't like. I trust my eyes. I don't like what

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Speaker 1: I see with Kansas City. So this is an interesting player.

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Speaker 1: So this weekend is a This is one of my

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Speaker 1: blazing five picks. I won't say what side. Denver hosts

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, and Denver's gonna win this division. Kansas City

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Speaker 1: is now third behind Denver and the Chargers. I think

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating with Bo Nicks. So the Broncos quarterback is

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks. He's on a rookie deal. So the Broncos roster,

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Speaker 1: especially defense, it's pretty stacked. But it's interesting about bo Nicks.

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Speaker 1: He is twenty one to nine as a starter. And

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Speaker 1: you could say, well, it's the defense. Well, he's taken

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Speaker 1: the fewest sacks during these last two years. That's a skill.

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Speaker 1: He leads the NFL in game winning drives. Yes, leads

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Speaker 1: the NFL last two seasons. That's a skill. Okay, he

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Speaker 1: has the second most fourth quarter touchdown since he entered

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Speaker 1: the league.

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Speaker 3: That's a skill.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is where I will defend him.

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Speaker 1: Outside of Mahomes, he also has the most pass attempts.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's hard on his quarterbacks. He's incredibly demanding. It's

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Speaker 1: a thick playbook. This is not Big Ben when he

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Speaker 1: came to the NFL out of Miami, Ohio, went to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers and they were babysitting in for two years

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Speaker 1: and letting it dominating defense control the games. You know,

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Speaker 1: Ben would make seventeen eighteen nineteen throws. They were kind

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Speaker 1: of babysitting. Again, that's not what this is. This is

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Speaker 1: here's the playbook, kid, memorize it. We're going to use

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Speaker 1: all of it Sunday. So there's no babysitting with this kid.

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Speaker 1: They're asking him to do more and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: defend those quarterbacks who have to throw it forty five

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Speaker 1: times a game. And I feel like with bow Nicks

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Speaker 1: and people do this. Everybody's made up their mind on

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Speaker 1: bow Nicks because you saw a lot of them at Oregon,

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Speaker 1: and you've seen enough of them here, and nobody wants

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Speaker 1: just to acknowledge he's really good in the fourth He's

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Speaker 1: got all those things I love. He's durable, he's coachable,

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Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's productive in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: He's a winner. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't listen to the noise. You know you're not

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Speaker 1: on social media. He's one hundred percent team guy. But

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Speaker 1: I've said, if you love Caleb Williams and Chick, you

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Speaker 1: gotta like bo Nicks. Both have good rosters, both have

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Speaker 1: excellent O lines, Both have brilliant offensive coaches. Both have

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Speaker 1: nice weapons. I like Denver's receivers. I don't care what

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Speaker 1: anybody says. I love Courtland Sutton. So if you like Caleb,

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Speaker 1: you gotta like bow Knicks. Both are uneven, both are

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Speaker 1: very very good in the fourth quarter. Yeah, I hear that, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Caleb's a superstar Bonnicks I'm out on so far. Great

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Speaker 1: offensive coach, great O line, defenses that take the ball

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Speaker 1: away right one's leading a division. One's battling Green Bay

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Speaker 1: to lead a division. Here's bow Knicks on being underdogs.

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Speaker 1: Actually at home to Green Bay.

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Speaker 11: Seems to be a playoff game, so this will be

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Speaker 11: an intense game on the field, it'll be an intense environment.

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Speaker 11: I don't don't really care if my mom thinks will win,

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Speaker 11: so that's all it matters.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, you can tell he his dad was

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Speaker 1: a coach. He doesn't take sacks, totally coachable. And again,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's not easy, Sean. You know it's funny about this,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. That's why I say Caleb and bo Nicks

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Speaker 1: to this point very comparable. Both now were in their

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Speaker 1: second year. Both can struggle early in games, but both

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Speaker 1: usually win and deliver late. Both throw occasional interceptions, but

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Speaker 1: not that many really, But Caleb's got this kind of

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Speaker 1: fandom behind him. I think bo Nix is really good.

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Speaker 1: I think bo Nicks is way more athletic than anybody

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Speaker 1: gives them credit for. And in that draft class, Drake

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Speaker 1: may has been the absolute, inarguable start. Nobody can push

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Speaker 1: back on that. But if you like Caleb, it feels

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Speaker 1: like you gotta like bo Nicks.

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Speaker 3: To me.

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Speaker 1: In fact, bo Nix has actually been more accurate as

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Speaker 1: a thrower Blazing five top of the hour. The NFL

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Speaker 1: schedule for the weekend, it is a very important weekend,

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Speaker 1: even the games that don't have playoff implications. Minnesota Dallas

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Speaker 1: is fascinating because what are we going to see from

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. He just had his best game as a pro.

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Speaker 1: They need to watch him the next four weeks to

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Speaker 1: make a decision. What are they going to do with

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. The Dallas defense doesn't let you run, so

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to throw to beat the Cowboys on

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Speaker 1: the road. So even a game without playoff implications, Dallas

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Speaker 1: hosting Minnesota, to me, is a very interesting game. Atlanta

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Speaker 1: won last night, Bucks are reeling. I think it's not

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Speaker 1: a Blazing five pick. I think Chicago wins this weekend,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's an entertaining game. I want to

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Speaker 1: see chador in Caleb Williams, I really do.

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Speaker 3: J Mack. I ask you every week, where's the upset

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Speaker 3: on the board.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be a couple of them five double

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Speaker 1: digits threads. There's there's gonna be an upset on the board.

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Speaker 3: I mean there was one.

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Speaker 7: Last night Falcons were what five six something like that.

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Speaker 7: I was looking at the Browns, but I don't think

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Speaker 7: I can do it. I mean, a weather's bad, Chadeur's

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Speaker 7: down his start, both tackles right now, and his starting center.

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Speaker 8: I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 7: I guess if you're begging me to take a dog,

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Speaker 7: I would kick the tires.

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Speaker 8: With the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday Night football. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 8: I know you're smiling.

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Speaker 7: You don't like JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: I stop with you. I don't like JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: The current data leads me to believe he's not a

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: We restate that.

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Speaker 7: We can restate that. That being said, they won thirty

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Speaker 7: one nothing. He lit the world on fire. We didn't

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Speaker 7: even mention the guy all week practically like he had.

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Speaker 3: A good game.

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Speaker 7: I know it's washed very busy show. Yeah, there is

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Speaker 7: no time to mention it. I think they'll be frisky.

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Speaker 7: I like the Miami Dolphins on Monday and yeah getting

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Speaker 7: three and a half.

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Speaker 8: I don't love the three.

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Speaker 1: We gotta give Miami credit. We bailed on everything. They

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Speaker 1: have played their butt off the club. DJ Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 1: is last week and in New York cold weather, that

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Speaker 1: game was over an eight minutes. Yeah, lazing five neck