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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's DJ Envy Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: He got some special guests in the building. We got

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Speaker 1: Currency and Jermaine dupre Jay. What up? What's going on? Fellas?

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying this making moves what look like hob

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Speaker 1: roll out? I just collaborator came about? Uh man, I

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Speaker 1: did a record on this Harrod fraud album I did.

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Speaker 1: Then I named the record Jamaine dupre because it reminded

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Speaker 1: me of when I've seen Bro on MTV uh cribs,

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Speaker 1: So it made me speak on it name the record

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Speaker 1: after him. And then he heard it and he hit me.

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Speaker 1: I was like, just come to the studio, like you

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Speaker 1: should come through, like let's do a record. Well, what

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Speaker 1: I thought was just come to do a record. But

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Speaker 1: then we jammed up, like it fell right and we

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Speaker 1: never stopped working. Did y'all always cool with each other?

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Speaker 1: Did y'all know each other? Were just not not at all? No,

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Speaker 1: as soon as we jammed them, it was like a

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Speaker 1: step brothers. It was like yo, like you for real?

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Speaker 1: Like did we just become like best friends? Doll? Like

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Speaker 1: we just jammed up, just now we got so many records. Man,

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to that MTV cribs thing, right because

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Speaker 1: you know nowadays and you see rappers doing that should

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Speaker 1: looked like this everybody flossing. But back then it really

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Speaker 1: used to inspire people. So I was talking about that, yes,

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Speaker 1: like dude had the icebergs. I don't just all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that was out of my reach that time, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And like they always see it

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Speaker 1: like hot kids like saw a Black Panthers, like yo,

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Speaker 1: you look like us, Like I'm like, no, this nigga

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Speaker 1: look like us, Like this this hit right here. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So you could do it because

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Speaker 1: the only people I've ever seen on that was like

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Speaker 1: I keep telling them how colden House and shit like that,

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Speaker 1: and then bam he coming like yeah, this hard. But

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that. What do you think the difference

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Speaker 1: is back then? Because I remember seeing JD Like the

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Speaker 1: first time I even I seen an exotic sports called

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Speaker 1: with JAD had to lamboat with the invented doors with

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Speaker 1: the doors up and he put the kids on it.

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Speaker 1: So for me, it wasn't like flaws and it was inspiring.

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Speaker 1: Right when I used to see squiz or or hole.

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Speaker 1: It was bust up, it was inspiring. Why do you

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Speaker 1: think people don't look at it now? Is inspiring? Now?

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Speaker 1: They look at it like, oh, he's floors and why

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Speaker 1: why do you think it's the difference they are that's

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Speaker 1: what they're doing it. I mean, you know, it got

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Speaker 1: to a point where like people, you know, there was

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Speaker 1: a TV show and they was trying to make a show,

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Speaker 1: um and they started actually renting houses for people that

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Speaker 1: didn't have houses. They started renting cars for people who

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Speaker 1: so that that so that the situation would look the

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Speaker 1: same as whoever they had on the show. I think

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Speaker 1: that's where they messed up, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's where they took that part of what you're talking

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Speaker 1: about out, because I mean the last one I remember

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Speaker 1: was when like they tried to do that with Red

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Speaker 1: Man and Red Man was like, nah, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: you out of my house in Jersey and it was

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Speaker 1: like a you know what I mean, he stayed in

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Speaker 1: like a townhouse flownhouse, right, and they was trying to

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Speaker 1: give him a house and call and hen and he

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Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. So I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much what happened. It is like people just

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Speaker 1: was like, nah, let's let's fake it and make it

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Speaker 1: look like this is my house and these are my cars.

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Speaker 1: Man episode was as impactful a stack of video games,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, well I could. I could also

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Speaker 1: this is me too. I could also do this too

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Speaker 1: if I got And also, I think because you knew

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Speaker 1: that whoever was on cribs back then actually worked for that,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Nowadays it's just like you

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Speaker 1: can stand in front of somebody mansion and stand in

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Speaker 1: front of somebody family like what we're asking what do

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Speaker 1: these people do? That's true. We didn't have what JD

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Speaker 1: did back then. Yeah, we knew what he did, so

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Speaker 1: how was it working with j D? It was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, honestly, it was like a dream, bro, because

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Speaker 1: I've been in the game for a long time and

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Speaker 1: just on the outside look. And then that's one of

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Speaker 1: the people that I figured. You know, that was like

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Speaker 1: somewhere else that's out of space. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: So you speak on it. You know. If I named

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Speaker 1: the record Jermaine Dupre, I never thought I was gonna

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Speaker 1: meet Jermaine Dupre or anything. That's why I like y'all

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Speaker 1: never met. That's you know what I'm saying, Like y'all

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Speaker 1: both be outside, like yeah, but especially like y'all be outside. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's different. It's two different worlds, realms, you know,

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Speaker 1: like worlds completely like in his group of people in

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Speaker 1: the section may include like who you want just throw

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Speaker 1: names around, all right, and it's me and the homies.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna it's not gonna happen, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's just great that it did. And

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Speaker 1: it's like when I when I thought I was gonna

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Speaker 1: go to the NFL the NBA, I used to look

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Speaker 1: birthday and see who would be in the league when

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Speaker 1: I got there, you know what I'm saying, And like this,

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Speaker 1: this is like that shit just exactly like that I

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Speaker 1: was working with currency. It's dope, but you know what

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Speaker 1: it was, because um, it's it's it's it's interesting because

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Speaker 1: I don't we never talked about songs like usually I

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Speaker 1: talk about what we're gonna do prior to even making

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Speaker 1: a beat. Um, he rolling up, I'm making a beat.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if he knows what's happening, but um, it just happened.

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Speaker 1: We never made one record where we talked about what

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Speaker 1: we were gonna do. It's just organically happened. So I

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Speaker 1: felt like, you know, the first five records that I

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Speaker 1: something that's this is what organic I guess feels like,

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Speaker 1: it's a process of like we're gonna make a song

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Speaker 1: we got to that process at the end of the songs.

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Speaker 1: You know, as as the legend you are j D.

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Speaker 1: When you saw him name the song after you, how

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Speaker 1: did that make you feel? Because let's be real, people

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Speaker 1: don't give you the credit the credits you deserve, man,

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Speaker 1: not at all. That's that's that was crazy, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I feel like that was like, um, um,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing I said. The least I could do

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Speaker 1: done that. That's that's taking acknowledging me to a whole

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Speaker 1: nother level, right, And it's other people that don't even

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Speaker 1: I never thought that and I never saw that in

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Speaker 1: don't even think like that. So it was, it was.

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Speaker 1: It definitely took me back, like damn okay, and you

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Speaker 1: know it also it also was refreshing and a reset

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Speaker 1: because what he did was he made me um um

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Speaker 1: love and and and and and all the things that

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Speaker 1: makes you appreciate. He makes you appreciate stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: like the call on the desk right there, like you know,

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Speaker 1: I collect toys, you know, this is so so the

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Speaker 1: things that I do. Sometimes people come out studio, they're like,

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Speaker 1: why you got all these toys in there? But he

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Speaker 1: son will go crazy over this, and he just started

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Speaker 1: makes you appreciate the stuff that you actually already do.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna ask you know, both

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Speaker 1: of you guys are all are very underrated in your

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Speaker 1: both crafts, right, so you know, currency you've been out

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Speaker 1: I feel like the world is doesn't necessarily give you

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Speaker 1: the credit you deserve. And the same thing with yourself, JD.

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Speaker 1: Do I have that those kind understand Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 1: have the conversation like but but we just it's an understanding,

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Speaker 1: like you know that that's why we do what we do.

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Speaker 1: But we also know, like the ceiling that that that's

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Speaker 1: almost over you by not being an asshole and waving

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Speaker 1: your own banner and demanding that people give you accolades

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Speaker 1: and notice what you did, we just keep putting, you know,

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Speaker 1: putting the numbers up the ship work. I feel like

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Speaker 1: you have to do that when you're from the South though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if people want if you want people to if

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you just want to

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Speaker 1: do it because like I always say, like I still

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Speaker 1: want to go to Walmut and look for high wheels

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Speaker 1: a ferrari or something. So I work hard enough to

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Speaker 1: do that, you know what I'm saying. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: worrying about the other ship that comes with it, like

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Speaker 1: those being in those circles and done all that shit

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Speaker 1: that that don't because all the guys of noble always

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Speaker 1: Wayne didn't get into conversation, so he said he the

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Speaker 1: he said he the king of the South. I feel

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Speaker 1: like when you're from the South, you have to say it.

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Speaker 1: You have to, you have to, you know, But all

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Speaker 1: you could just stack your paper up. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: really what matters. That's that's really what matter. Jad You

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Speaker 1: feel like you started popping your shit a little too late, Nah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to even say that because that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm on cribs. I'm popping shit, I guess, right,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think people start paying attention too late,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: popping shit at nineteen. I don't think people start paying

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Speaker 1: attention to Jermaney free to like I was twenty five,

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Speaker 1: twenty six years old. Because even now when people start

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Speaker 1: speaking of like the records I did, they leave criss

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Speaker 1: Cross completely off that whole list, right, So half of

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Speaker 1: my existence in the popping shit era, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: people didn't, you know, and they weren't no breakfast club

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Speaker 1: when I did money anything. And just imagine if it was,

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Speaker 1: I would have stacks in here, would have been it was.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't no breakfast club when we was doing that, right,

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Speaker 1: and then people weren't even throwing money we did. We

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Speaker 1: the first first guys on TV throwing money in a video, right.

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Speaker 1: So um, I just think people just they don't, they don't,

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Speaker 1: they weren't in that era of when this happened. And

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Speaker 1: then they start hearing that they should compare me to somebody, right,

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Speaker 1: and then that's where the that's where the lack of

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Speaker 1: it happening happened came from. And then I'm from the South.

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Speaker 1: I represent Atlanta right to the fullest. So therefore the

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Speaker 1: South always gets slighted. It just just what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's not a it's not an old no we don't.

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Speaker 1: It's a true fact as we get slighted, not as

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Speaker 1: and we're sending bigger enough boxes of close to everybody.

424
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 1: What made you create that? Because it does so well well.

425
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 1: I always was into like fashion. I always wanted to

426
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 1: like put stuff on and some shit was not out

427
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: some ideas that then ship that I missed a lot

428
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: of clothing line stopped doing stuff that I liked, and

429
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: I was al, I know what to do with Just

430
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 1: do our own ship and keep it in that vein

431
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: of the stuff I missed, and that's what works out

432
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 1: for you. Have a surprised with the amount of support

433
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 1: you get from the club A long Yeah, I see

434
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: it everywhere Like I am a model, So I am

435
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 1: a model, sir, I am. I am no bro, you

436
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 1: are a great spokeshed person for the brand though I

437
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: am a bottle bottle, So look, man, I am surprised

438
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: on places where I don't expect to see it. And

439
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: motherfucker's having on this and you could tell like that

440
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 1: didn't know that they're having on it. It's not like

441
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: some kid gave it to his mom and she's at

442
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: the grocery store. I'm talking about people but into the note,

443
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: such as yourself, who have it on, like like Nas

444
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: after he wins the Gramm, he's got the Jet Life

445
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 1: jacket on and like a lot of it, had a

446
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: freestyle that went everywhere, and she had the Jet Life

447
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: letting them in jacket on and shit. So it's like,

448
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: even though I'm not in those rooms, I'm still in

449
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: those rooms and shit. So it's tight because they know

450
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, you know, so they bring it everywhere

451
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: whether they feel like I should be at anyway, So

452
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: it's tight. I bet you used to get high and

453
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: walk around furniture stores. What nah? You know? I used

454
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: to get it roasted and go to the aquarium okay

455
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah, but not not furniture. So

456
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: how did you get a love for furniture? I like

457
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: the chill and it's all about finding like comfortable chilling stuff.

458
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 1: So we're gonna make our own the same reason like

459
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: I didn't necessity, the same reason we did Jet Life clothing.

460
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like we need better stuff

461
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: to chill on. So I'm gonna feel the void. So

462
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: you be sitting in the couch like this. I don't like.

463
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: I don't like this. Mother. Yeah, I'm like, you know

464
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: what this shit is not. It's not different niggas to

465
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: kick it on. So we're working on it. You know

466
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: what made your name the album? I mean the record essence?

467
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: Oh did well? You want to speak to that? Yeah? Um, well,

468
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's a rivalry between the Falcons and the Saints.

469
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: This is a real thing, right, um. And for the

470
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: longest when we first started working, I was like, you know,

471
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do an album. Once we got past

472
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: the first ten songs, I kept thinking in my head,

473
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do an album, we have to make

474
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: something that speaks to that rivalry. Or we can't act

475
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: like because we ain't supposed to be cool when that

476
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: game come on, right, So we can't act like we

477
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: don't know this, Like, this is something that you know.

478
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: If you're from Atlanta, you know that. If you're from

479
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans, you know that, right. So then we both

480
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 1: start trying to find out why it's a rivalry. But

481
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: then it's also a love there. It's a love that

482
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: you know if you're from Atlanta. You talk about going

483
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: to Essence Fest in January, it don't happen to July. Right,

484
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: This is something we prepare for all like the top

485
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: of the year. People like it, you know, they're getting

486
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: their clothes ready in January to go to New Orleans. Um,

487
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: and I feel like, um, it's vice versa. When people

488
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: come to Atlanta for the games from New Orleans. They

489
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: come out there and they have a good time. They

490
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: love the city. So it's a love hate situation, and um,

491
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that brings that love and

492
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: that hate together is the Essence Fest. Right, So it

493
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: was just only right. And then once we got to

494
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: bounce the record, and it was to bounce and the vibe,

495
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: and he had never wrapped over a record like that,

496
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: now that he's a full fledged professional artist, Um, it

497
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: just made sense to like bring all of that in

498
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: and not leave one piece of that out. And I

499
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: think the Essence Fest brings every piece of the fact

500
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: that the first time you heard Get the Game, oh yeah,

501
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: I heard it at a party and that's when first

502
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: heard so you know the way my mind worked, I'm like, Noah,

503
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: that's it. The gavel dropped right, now that's the name.

504
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: That's the name of it. That's a New Orleans classic, right, yeah,

505
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: I told him, like it's in the fiber of all

506
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: the music that ever came out after it from New Orleans.

507
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: Everybody who rapped has rapped over that beat. Like the

508
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: first rap you ever wrote was over that, I promise.

509
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Like in the club you ever been to, you could

510
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: have been eleven years old. They knew you could rap.

511
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: That was the beat they put off you can rap,

512
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: and you had to rap over that ship like straight up,

513
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: so everybody knows it. JD. Did you create one or

514
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: six apart? Yeah, I mean, you know, see the funny

515
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: part about this. The funny part about this is that, um,

516
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't speak about I mean, I'm a CEO, right,

517
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: So this this goes into the world of like what

518
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: were just talking about. If you don't see Jermanity pre working,

519
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: you don't see me doing what we gotta do, then

520
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: you're gonna always you're not gonna believe anything that happens,

521
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: right because I wasn't when Charlemagne just said I wanted

522
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: to reverse this and ask you a question, when you said,

523
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: get the respect that I'm supposed to get How do

524
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: you feel when you see something that you didn't think

525
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: was gonna work? That's mine and it works. How do

526
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I mean, I don't know. It

527
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: shouldn't make you feel anyone. You probably don't care. But

528
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, I never thought about it. But

529
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: if I'm thinking about it, I'm like, well, why would

530
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: anybody doubt somebody who's made several things work? Okay, But

531
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying so when I brought the kids from the

532
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: rap game here, remember this, he was like, I want

533
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: to see no kids? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah out of here. Yeah.

534
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. How does that make you

535
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: feel like? It? Don't make you feel like, oh, I

536
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm saying that's that's what That's what's happened, right.

537
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: So that's the same thing that's happened here, right if

538
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: you what I should say is j D congratulations again. Yeah,

539
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: but nobody says that. Don't want to congratulations. But I'm saying, um,

540
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: I say that to say that if I if I

541
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't have brought them here. Y'all saw the kids. You've

542
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: seen them from scratch before there was ever anybody If

543
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: you didn't see it and nobody else and people have

544
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: forgot about that show at this point. And I said,

545
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: I created a TV show that introduced you to Loto.

546
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: Somebody would challenge that. Somebody would challenge you and say, no,

547
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: you didn't and you know what I mean. Like, so

548
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: it's the same thing when when when I saw MTV

549
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: TRL right, I used to drive down the street because

550
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: we was working. I was working here, I drive that street.

551
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: I see all these kids outside on in Tom Square

552
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, why black kids don't have a

553
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: show like this? Right Meanwhile, I'm making the BAA record

554
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, BT needs to do this now. If

555
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: they had this idea and they mind prior to me

556
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: saying this, then God blessed them. But I'm saying, what

557
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: artists was they gonna launch that show with? Because I

558
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: provided the artists that made that show what that show became. Right.

559
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't no Chris Brown before Bow. It wasn't no

560
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: Little Romeo before Bow. It wasn't no littles. And I

561
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: think somebody got mad at me for saying the little

562
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: because I ki it was a little Kim And I'm

563
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: clearing this up. I meant the littles of his era,

564
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: not the little John's Yes, a little person forever. I'm

565
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: just saying, I'm talking about all of little Romeos Zane,

566
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Like who I mean, I don't know, you know, I

567
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: mean these people that came and that bow wow Lane,

568
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: That's what I meant. But I'm what I'm I'm still saying.

569
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: If people don't realize that, you know, that's why people

570
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: don't even understand that I'm the one who gave Biow

571
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: the name is the one those six and part BT

572
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: didn't give him that name, So why would I name

573
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: him that? You know what I'm saying, Like, why would

574
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: I put that in a verse to say I'm missed

575
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: the one THO six and part So why wouldn't Stephen

576
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: Hill just acknowledge that because he said it wasn't true?

577
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Just didn't create one. Um, I believe that. You know

578
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: I didn't work at B two, right, So if you

579
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: and I have a conversation, you don't come back to

580
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: this office and tell everybody I talked to Jermaine for

581
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: two hours, three hours on the phone. You're just gonna

582
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: come back in here and say, Envy, let's do this.

583
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't do that I'd like to give people their credit. Yeah,

584
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: but I mean it wasn't about me. I didn't. I don't.

585
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: I didn't want the credit for one those six and

586
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: part right, I'm not even saying I'm not speaking on

587
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: it now about me wanting the credit. What I was

588
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: speaking on on that show was the fact that what

589
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: I do for my artist right when when you are

590
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: part of what I'm doing, I'm gonna call envy and

591
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: be like dog they said we couldn't come to the

592
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. What's happening. I'm gonna take that extra mile

593
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: to do what I have to do to make sure

594
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: that my artists get that stretch right. And that's all

595
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: I was saying. I put a call in to Stephen

596
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: Hill and say, Yo, we need to do a show

597
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: that looks like blah blah blah blah blah because I

598
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: have this new artist by the name of bow Wow.

599
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: If that is that me making it, I don't know,

600
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: but I know that that's what happened. So you know

601
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And people can take however they want

602
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: to take it. I don't understand you and bow All

603
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: the relationship. Yeah, why don't you just grabbing put them

604
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: in the headline give him a nugget and then y'all family.

605
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: When he says things like he regrets signing to you,

606
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: it's like, we your JD made you a superstar. It's

607
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: also it's all I think. I think the outside world.

608
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's the same thing I said, you kids

609
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: of today and this generational hip hop, we have a

610
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: lost appreciation for things, right And that's why I said

611
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: about being with currency, it's it's you. Everywhere I go,

612
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm seeing people don't have appreciation for hip hop and

613
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: that has become a thing in hip hop now, to

614
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: not appreciate the things that came and got you to

615
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: this space, right. Um, and he was it was like

616
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: a father figured him. Yeah, but I know he was

617
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: like his sudden I feel like the outside world makes

618
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: you not appreciate that. That's what I'm saying. It's that's

619
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: what it does. It's it's the hip hop word. Are

620
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: we live in right now? Don't appreciate shit, like for real,

621
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: Like when I wore the hot top fade the other

622
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: day in the video, right, it's people on there that's

623
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: so much more concerned with me thinking that I want

624
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: to wear this at at my age and saying I'm

625
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: going to a midlife crisis, as opposed to looking at

626
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: it and saying, damn, that's some shit. That hip hop.

627
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: That's what you would do if you was what hip

628
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: hop did, right. Hip Hop made niggas do any and everything,

629
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: and we never had a problem. We never questioned it.

630
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: It was because it was hip hop. And now if

631
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: you do something that hip hop makes you do, or

632
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: if you even try to this, no appreciation for it.

633
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: And that's that's I think that's where that is. And

634
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: I feel like ba Wow is in that space where

635
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: he has to deal with you guys. He has to

636
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: deal with younger guys. And the media definitely don't appreciate nothing, right.

637
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: They just they don't. They don't. They don't until it's

638
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: until it's over with. But it's just certain people like

639
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna fight with Right, and we can fight

640
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I'm never gonna fight with Clue, Right,

641
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: that's that's my brother. I'm never gonna fight with Fab.

642
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Even you, I'm not gonna fight with you. You know,

643
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: we could get into an argument, but it just seems

644
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: something else was there, which is just hard to understand

645
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: because I mean, I will fight but fighting argue. You

646
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, But yeah, I don't. I mean,

647
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: I only have no reason to argue. I mean, I

648
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: feel like I understand it. I understand don't. Yeah, that's

649
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you but but that's what I'm saying.

650
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't understand it because you haven't had

651
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: to deal with a person that has to go through this.

652
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: This a rapper, right, you're a rapper. You say this,

653
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: you're a rapper, and people challenge you. If you write

654
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: your lyrics, people challenge you on this, people challenge you

655
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: on that that that it's hard for a person to

656
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: actually deal with that, um, if you're not prepared for it. Right, me, Like,

657
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck with nobody will say about

658
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: me because I know what I do and I know

659
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm out doing everything the damn and everybody else is doing,

660
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: so I'm not even paying no attention to it. But

661
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: the majority of people, they can't deal with it. That's

662
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: why that's why the instagram is where the instagram is,

663
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: because every time somebody says something, people look right, and

664
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: that's I feel like that's where he is. He gets

665
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: caught up in that and he's got caught up in

666
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: that a lot, Right, without me being around, he got

667
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: caught up in that they's created or what the bow

668
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: I challenge. I wouldn't a part of that, Right, How

669
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: do you deal with that as a person? Right? He

670
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: had to deal with it and you killed him. Right,

671
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: it's just listening to know what I'm saying, you know

672
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's like when a person is

673
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: dealing with that, they become they just get tight and

674
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: they want to you know what i mean. So then

675
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: you want to try to like make it seem like

676
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: you got it all you hand, you got it all

677
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: on you know, it's you got it, it's your it's

678
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: my thing. So it's like, you know, it's just a

679
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: situation where you gotta you gotta know how to deal

680
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: with it. And you don't get coaching by this. I

681
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: didn't coach him that. I didn't teach him how to

682
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: deal with that part of life. But he asked to

683
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: know somebody eventually gonna do that to him too, and

684
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: they do do it like people will take away act

685
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: like wo has just always been on Instagrams like full

686
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: fledged superstar. Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying. It's

687
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: no appreciation for anything in hip hop anymore. Damn you

688
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: feel like we currency too. No, as he's saying it,

689
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm peeping it around like that. That that is insane.

690
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: They just wipe that all out. That's crazy. You feel

691
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: like people don't have appreciation of hip hop. I feel

692
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: like what people don't have an appreciation for hip I

693
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: have appreciation for things? What what brought what brought them

694
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: into it? Like what made you want to do it?

695
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: That's all? You know what I'm saying. It's not it's

696
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: not why why you want to do it? Everybody's doing

697
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: it now like the same reason everybody started selling friendship puppets,

698
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: like they just wanted to get money. It's just a flip,

699
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's not no real love

700
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: in it. Are you selling front of puppies? Yeah? People

701
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: see that. That's the way, Like that's the new dope.

702
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: So they're like, fucking let's just do this right quick.

703
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. J D and Puff

704
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: is supposed to do versus who you got your money?

705
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 1: I'll roll with j D at basically based on all

706
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: of the shit that I'm finding out, like oh you

707
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: did this, you did that, Like yesterday I had like

708
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: a revelation. I'm like, I don't know how this would

709
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: actually look when you're ragining these artists, like people gonna

710
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: be the same way. I was shocked, and I think

711
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm like bun in the game. I know everything. You

712
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But I was like knocked on

713
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: my ass yesterday or some shit. So that's what it's

714
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: gonna be. A whole arena of people like, oh you

715
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: know he did? Oh wait, all right, well yesh shit,

716
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Goddamn you know like that, that's what's

717
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's the way I see it straight up. Like,

718
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how many records puffle

719
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: bring out that I'm going back. I didn't know that

720
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: I think I know? Ever, did I think I know it?

721
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: You know? So how do you feel about it, J

722
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't don't. Yeah, I mean,

723
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: like I said, I I just look at it. I

724
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: actually see it. I see the chart, right, you know

725
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, um, but like you said,

726
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: it's not only the records, it's also what that record

727
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: did for the culture, right, Yeah, you know what I mean.

728
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm it's like I said, I'm not. I'm like I

729
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: said about the Chris Brown thing. I believe that in

730
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: versus world, people won't give it to us because of

731
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: the way the mindset has been, you know, been treated.

732
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: We've done that battle in him with kids, Like with

733
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: kids like that twenty five twenty six Usher catalog still

734
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: rings timeless to them because their parents was listening to us.

735
00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about that. Oh I forgot about it. Yes,

736
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, like I said, I feel

737
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's I mean, I'm the underdog.

738
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm not even tripping on that though I'm the underdog.

739
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: That's not true though, I mean, I'm not and that

740
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: and that thing. It was a Vegas card. I think

741
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: that you know, everybody the favor would be, you know

742
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: that he would be, that he would be the underdog.

743
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking to me that people who haven't paid attention there, No,

744
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: they haven't. But that's what I'm saying. I'm the underdog

745
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: because it's like people who everybody, everybody sits around and

746
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: they say they're the ones who are running this bit.

747
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: They sit around and they say he can't match up,

748
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: and they only talking about big That's it how long

749
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: I've been saying that. That's all he said. You just

750
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: say big, he said rap. That's why I said take

751
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: out It should be an R and B remix versus

752
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: take Out the Road because you can't be big records

753
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: because not only because they're great records of nostalgia, big immortal. Yeah,

754
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's the only reason why people

755
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: say he can't match up because they're talking about big,

756
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: and they're talking about big. You're talking about big, biggest big.

757
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, it's if it was a fight, I

758
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: don't go into the fight thinking I'm not gonna get punched.

759
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just when I throw

760
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: mine and when he throw is That's what it is.

761
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: It ain't about he got punches. I got punches too,

762
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It is what it is. Is

763
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Is its gonna happen for real? Or is it just

764
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: just talk? No, It's gonna happen. It's it's it's it's

765
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: it's bigger than what people think. What we want to

766
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: do is bigger than what what everybody's thinking about, and

767
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that you know it. Come

768
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: across the way it's supposed to come. Acros'll do it.

769
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 1: You'a gotta do figure out how to do two, because

770
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: you can't just do one in Atlanta. You gotta do

771
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: one like Atlanta in New York. You gotta got to

772
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: pick a neutral location to be honest or something. You

773
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta do. Atlanta, gotta do Atlanta,

774
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: you got you gotta do New York. Gotta do Apollo,

775
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: and you gotta do R and B in remixes. Do

776
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: R and B in one city, hip hopping another. And

777
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: see the problem with the remixes. I saw somebody saying

778
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: this the other day, Right, half a Bad Boy remixes

779
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: idea right, So the Big Popper remix, I did it right,

780
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: right the Total and Craig I mean total and Keith Furry,

781
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: I did it right total, first first record that ever

782
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: came out, got Brad on it right. It's it's it's

783
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: how do you score that? How do you score that?

784
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: You gotta drop those out. You can't drop them out.

785
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, so you

786
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: do the remake. But I saw somebody saying, but in

787
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: New York, we ain't played at JD remix, and I

788
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, my remix. Yes, we did the

789
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: Biggie the Big Poper remix. I don't I'm just saying

790
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm seeing people say that on Twitter, but I'm just saying.

791
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: It's it's it's either way you do it. You know,

792
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a fight whether we in New

793
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: York or were in the Atlanta. Either way, what came first?

794
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: Was it we invented the remix bad Boy album or

795
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: the definition of a remix Social Death album? Um, I

796
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: think mine was coming first. And I don't know. I

797
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: don't know which one came out, you know, but I

798
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: mean still I don't know. I mean, the remix thing

799
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: has always gonna battle between us. But it's it's interesting,

800
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: like I said, because Puff was using me for remixes.

801
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: It's not like I was a challenge for him. Back then.

802
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: It was like go to j D and get a

803
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: remix for Big Papa, Go to j D and get

804
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: a remix for a total um that. You know. I

805
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: always wondered how much influence did you in Atlanta have

806
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: on Big because you know, we saw you saw y'all

807
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: in big videos, a lot of all Big in y'all videos,

808
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: and I remember hearing somebody said Big, I think it

809
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: was Jays. Somebody said Big was gonna move to Atlanta.

810
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: At one point. We're trying to get everybody by houses

811
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I mean, well, I don't know about that,

812
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: but he and I spoke, Me and him talk all

813
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: the time because we was on tour. It was me,

814
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: Bratt and Craig Mac. We was all on tour UM

815
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: and we was doing like the Chitland Circuit. And in

816
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: that Chitland circuit run, Craig Mac was the hottest, then

817
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: Bratt and then Big, and Big was frustrated with the

818
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: fact that his records aren't as popular as Functified and

819
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: Flavoring at the time. UM. And that's actually how I

820
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: got to do the remix, because Big felt like he

821
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: needed me to get into that space where Bratt was.

822
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: The record was out during that time Juicy Jure in

823
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: New York, the Chitland Circuit, but the Chitland Circuit around

824
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: where we lived in Atlanta, they hadn't they hadn't caught yet. So,

825
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: like I said, the Flavoring your ear didn't Functified and

826
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: then Juicy, I mean people were working with it but

827
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: they weren't. They weren't like Head over Hills, and it

828
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: was driving him crazy. And he talked to me every

829
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: day about doing a remix, and I finally did Big

830
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: popa remix, and then that's when we did the B

831
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: side with him at Bratt. He came to Atlanta. And

832
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: when he came to Atlanta, yeah, he probably you know,

833
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: because I brought him to College Park. He came to

834
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: my hood and did that song, so he probably soaked up.

835
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: I need to move out here. That's basically the same

836
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: thing that happens to everybody when they come out there.

837
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: You see what one last day thing? You see what

838
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: young Jock said about you? And did he said the

839
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: different between you? And did he that? Did he understands

840
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: marketing and that's what he got over well, I think

841
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: he said that. Did he took his artist tree him

842
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: as an artist more serious than me. Um, he's right,

843
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm all about making new artist. I'm

844
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: all about putting Oh, I was all about putting out artists.

845
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: You know, even like this this album, the incurrency got Um,

846
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: I'm rapping on the record, but I'm not rapping all

847
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: over the record because you know, what I mean, that's

848
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: that's who I am. I'm a producer first, and I've

849
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: always been that way, and I think that that's you know,

850
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: that's one thing that he was saying. But even the

851
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: job Jock was signed and Social Death for one day

852
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: before that Bad Boy deal and Block and Block switched

853
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: it and they went to bad Wood. I didn't do

854
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: that that he signed. If he signed, I'm saying he

855
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: was signed because the person who produced the record was

856
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: signed to me as a producer. So Nitya signed the

857
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Social Defensive producer. So I wasn't even thinking about, Like

858
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't even pressing because I'm like, I know this

859
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: is my song, like we were said Virgin at this time,

860
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: Like I know this song is coming over here. It's easy, right,

861
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: And I had already had the franchise where he's having

862
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: all the success. I'm like, it's no way, possibly you

863
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: don't give us this record. If you find the first

864
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: version of it's going down it says Social Deaf at

865
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of the record, right. So I was cool,

866
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: like clearly like, oh we got this. I went to sleep,

867
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: woke up the neck morning. How did that happen? I mean,

868
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: I didn't sign. I didn't actually sign him, right, It's like,

869
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: you signed to me, and I know you're gonna do

870
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: the right thing for song and you already doesn't say

871
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: social deaf at the beginning of the record. So I'm like, oh,

872
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: it's got my tag, it's got a tag on it already,

873
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: were cool. I'm gonna go to sleep, you know what

874
00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean. So yeah, it was that. That was that situation.

875
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: What it's going down? That's puty because I was even

876
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: thinking about that. We're having these conversations about the South

877
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: and how the South don't get respect. Like I saw

878
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: Jock in the interview in the person interview in him

879
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: was like, how does it feel to have a career

880
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: for twenty years with just one hit? And I'm sitting

881
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: there thinking, like Jack got like seven to eight off.

882
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: That's that's that slight I'm talking about yet slighted. But

883
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: you ever go back and think about the fight that

884
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: you would had to do that, I think a lot

885
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: of people don't know, which opened the doors for a

886
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: lot of those Southern artists. That's That's one of the

887
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: other statements I said in that interview that people was

888
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: like Jermin's it's all cap it's just Cap and I'm like,

889
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: all right, listen. It was a time in New York

890
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: when Southern Rappers was not on the radio at one, two, three,

891
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: four or five o'clock in the afternoon, right, and I

892
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: was frustrated. I'm like, you know what, we gotta figure

893
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: out how to get in. I hired Envy to introduce

894
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: me to the streets in New York and move around

895
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: down so I could be able to be so people

896
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: to see my face and be more out here. Nobody

897
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: from the South beat the streets like me. You noticed

898
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: rights and the way that we beat the streets, and

899
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: we made never Scared permanent state record in New York.

900
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: We put Cameron and Buster runs, and we did everything

901
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: to make sure that that the South was, you know,

902
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: represented well in this town. Um. And then the young

903
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Blood's record, and these two records became so popular in

904
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: New York alone that you heard them like there was Atlanta.

905
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: And to me, that was the beginning of all of

906
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: these other records being heard on the radio the way

907
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: they heard today. And if I'm wrong, then I don't remember,

908
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: but I remember they told JD. Oh, I think they

909
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: liked me. Yeah, they told j D to take the

910
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: franchise boys off, just leave it ja may dupree. And

911
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: that's the only way that they were gonna spin it

912
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: in New York. So there was no mind playing tricks

913
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: on me. Didn't play no no limits, not like this.

914
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: We I'm talking about mid no mix show. All the

915
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: records was mixed show. I'm talking about no mix show.

916
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: Just you turn on the radio and you hit these records.

917
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: You never heard the song outcast, not like this, not

918
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: like wow wow. With everybody selling their catalog, you think,

919
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: y'all two whatever we think about selling, y'all. Uh, I

920
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: understand how why people do it? You know what I'm saying.

921
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know. They called me with four hundred

922
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: million dollars, all right, what's you know? How many generations

923
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: of us are gonna be okay off this four hundred tickets?

924
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll fucking do it. I don't know.

925
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for all my reversions, y'all. Don't hear people

926
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: talk about that much. But I'm waiting on mine because

927
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: everything that came out of ninety two is coming back

928
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: to me one percent. Everything that came back in ninety three,

929
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: ninety four is coming back to me. One hundred percent.

930
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: I wrote one hundred percent of all of Escape Records.

931
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: I wrote one hundred percent of Chris Cross, I wrote

932
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of Usher My Way. When the record

933
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm when they come back, which when they come back,

934
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: because you'll have a deal with with Sony as a

935
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: publishing situation, but the reversions it comes back to me

936
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: and I don't have a deal with them. So when

937
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: when when the reversions come back and somebody walk up

938
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: and you know, and they got that ticket heat talk about,

939
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: and you know it might be it might be a

940
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: conversation explaining that JD. Because you've always been the CEO.

941
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: So I didn't like, even with writers, you have to

942
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: give over some of the you make either make a

943
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: publishing deal when you're younger, right, I made a publishing

944
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: deal when I was like what nineteen, That's when that's

945
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: when I got my money. They gave me. You know,

946
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: you give them a million dollars. That's the first million

947
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: dollars I got from that Sony UM. And it's like

948
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: a joint. It's like a fifty fifty split publishing situation. UM,

949
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: and then you know it. I've been over there since

950
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: I was nineteen, which is a long time. But you know,

951
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: they get all the songs, so all the songs that

952
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: you make, they go into this thing and you and

953
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: you know, I recouped two three times. Right. I could

954
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: have left a bunch of times, but I stayed. And

955
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm just waiting now too, because I never,

956
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: by the way, when I started writing songs to hear

957
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: that in twenty five years you get your reversions or whatever.

958
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: I never even thought I'd make it that long. So

959
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm here, I'm past that point at this

960
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: point now. So now I'm like, shit, come on, so damn.

961
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: At one point, Michael Jackson, don't have your publish Yeah,

962
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: did y'all ever talk about that? Nah, it's it's not

963
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: it's not even thought about from that type of perspective.

964
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: But yet because I mean at the time when no,

965
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: but no, because that was after you, That was after

966
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: because Sony, it was it was m I at first.

967
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: So so Sony bought em I, Michael Jackson bought he

968
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: bought the company that that I was in business with

969
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: at that point, or a TV or whatever it is,

970
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: and that, um, that's when they turned it in't there?

971
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: So at first? Nah, the beginning of my career wasn't

972
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: like that. But later on it yeah, later on. Wow,

973
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: did you see the Janet Jackson documentary? And of course

974
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: you've seen it and people people were trying to get

975
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: you to get back with Janet. Did you see that?

976
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: Like the memes are going on and saying that that

977
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: y'all will be a perfect couple. You ever thought you

978
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: ever thought about rekindling that? Uh? I don't think I

979
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: thought about it started thing I'm sitting around thinking about,

980
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, if it happened, it happened. Even when you're

981
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: smoking with currency that high grade week don't cross your mind.

982
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: I tried. I tried for the two years, and knowing

983
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: them to pass him a joint, you don't get out,

984
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: not even close. He smoked hoopers. You still get high currency.

985
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: Does it still impact you in that way? No, it's

986
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: just you know, it just levels everything else. Yeah, you know,

987
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: I think I get high higher the more sober I get, Like,

988
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: the further removed away from weed I am, Like if

989
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the airport or something, I start like

990
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: being hilarious, I'm becoming more sober. Yeah, you still think

991
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: you got a great ear j D. A great era

992
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: the greatest, you know what I mean as far as um.

993
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: But I mean I think I think it's like I

994
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: said once again, I feel like it's unappreciated, um because

995
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: people don't care about that anymore. You know what I mean.

996
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: People don't. They don't care if you find an amazing singer, Um,

997
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: they want to know if that amazing singer. Like it's

998
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: like crazy, Like if a person is actually really really

999
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: talented and they come from church, they probably only got

1000
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: like two followers on Instagram right the business that we end.

1001
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: They could be Aretha Franklin and you could take them

1002
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: to the label right now, and they will be like,

1003
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: do she got one hundred thousand followers? We'll wait till

1004
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: she comes. We'll wait and come back and see when

1005
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: when you got a little bit of followers, what is that? Right?

1006
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: So it's like to question my ear. That's that's my ears.

1007
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: I'll find a Reta Franklin and somebody will be like,

1008
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. About that, Yeah, it's about

1009
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: who she's dating. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. If

1010
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: she got to fight somewhere as their footage of it, now,

1011
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: let's drop this. I think that's how people felt about

1012
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: the Division record though, it was like, this record feels

1013
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: like a gimmick as opposed to a classic R and

1014
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: B record that a j D would be attached to.

1015
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't, well, you know what I think. This is

1016
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: what I think is I think that it's the fifth album. Right. So,

1017
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 1: first of all, the people that think they're saying that

1018
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: they just learned who they were through me, that's true

1019
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: my channels. My channels are very much hey, hey, hey,

1020
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: right if they're on a fifth album, how is it

1021
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: a gimmick. It's like it's a fifth record, right, Um,

1022
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: you just learned about Division. You just found out who

1023
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: they were because they got a Recordd's on a radio, right,

1024
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: and Jamaine Dupre and Brian Cox did the song cool.

1025
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: And it's controversial because it's saying something, but you just,

1026
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, I just think. I think, I I honestly

1027
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: feel like what Chris Rock has been saying, the selective

1028
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: outrage outrage weighs heavy on me. It just does because

1029
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, right now, Division has one of the biggest

1030
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: songs on TikTok with the touch It right, and people

1031
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: keep complaining that I keep overposting it. I'm like, it's

1032
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: my record what I'm supposed to do, right, And it's

1033
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: like when other people do that, don't abo they do it?

1034
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: They do it when I do it? Yeah. See, so

1035
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I just think it's that selective

1036
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: outrage and it's it's you know, you can say that,

1037
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: but you just learned who division was Jda Curcy gotta go.

1038
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: Oh last question escape? Who opens up? Who? We just

1039
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: heard that discussion this week. I went here for both

1040
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: of y'all think about it on the records they got um.

1041
00:51:54,200 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: If I was still if I was still like the

1042
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: Frank running mindset of Escape, I would escape it open wow,

1043
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: because the pain that they're gonna put in before you know,

1044
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: coming coming after Escape is hard. They really sing. It's

1045
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: not like a you know, fuck all the bickering and beef.

1046
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: They really can sing, right. So it's like, and I'm

1047
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: not saying as WV can't but oh yeah, I'm not

1048
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Speaker 1: saying they can't sing. I'm just saying I've always had

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Speaker 1: that mindset. I've all always had that mindset about me

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Speaker 1: as a as a as an entertainer, like let me

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00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: go first, right, because I feel like it's harder for

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Speaker 1: the person to figure out what they gotta do afterwards.

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Speaker 1: I remember saying jay Z saying that he he went

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00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: on after DMX one night and DMX took his shirt

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Speaker 1: off and he started pouring water on him and he

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00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: was backstage like, Man, what the fuck I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: when I come out there? That is the mindset that

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Speaker 1: you had right until you get out. Then the crowd

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Speaker 1: make it different. But put that pressure on the person

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Speaker 1: to make them sit back then and try to figure

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Speaker 1: out what they're gonna do when they come out. That's

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Speaker 1: what I would do. Yeah, I think I think they

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Speaker 1: should do different markets, right as WV New York. Certain

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Speaker 1: areas I think they should close, but Atlanta escape out

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Speaker 1: of closing Atlanta. Yeah, Like I said, I wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: argue about it. I just because I don't I personally

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00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: feel like that that that closing first thing. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's just all it's mental. I remember going to

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Speaker 1: the Triple Threat concert, right, and it was Albi Shure

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Speaker 1: uh BBD and I want to say, Bobby Brown right,

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Speaker 1: and you know I love all of them. BBD was

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Speaker 1: busting Bobby Brown ass. You know, for the time period

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Speaker 1: that they came in, Bobby brought you know, he did

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Speaker 1: he had to do and pulling up the rib. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying them being where they were, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a bad slot. It's not a thing that I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about, like, damn, BBD should have closed. They was

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Speaker 1: killing it. I mean, poison was at the height at

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Speaker 1: poison at the time when I saw this, so it

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Speaker 1: felt like they should have closed. But you know, when

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Speaker 1: when Bobby came on and Tenderni and all these records

1082
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: came on, you realize why he was the closer, right,

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Speaker 1: So I just feel like me personally, I look at

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Speaker 1: that performance slot thing different. All right, Well, ladies and gentlemen, yeah,

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00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: make sure you pick up the album they do precuracy

1086
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: motivational use only. All right, Well, it's the Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: is JD and Curacy, y'all? Yeah, wake that ass up

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Speaker 1: in the morning. Breakfast Club