1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: This is Latino USA, the radio journal of News and 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Kurture Latino USC Latin Latino USA. I'm Mariainojosa. We bring 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: you stories that are underreported but that mattered to you, 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: overlooked by the rest of the media, and while the 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: country is struggling to deal with these, we listen to 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: the stories of black and Latino studients United Latino Front, 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: a cultural renaissance organizing at the forefront of the movement. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm Maria Inojosa, no bayan. For many women in the 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: United States, the fall of Roe v. Wade has been 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: going back to the time when abortion was not legal 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: in this country. Only now things have definitely changed. Almost 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: two years after the Dobbs decision, there's an increasing of 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: policing of women and of pregnancies in general, and Brittany 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Watts knows what that's like in the flesh. 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Just makes me angry that somebody would make me seem 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: so callous and so so hateful. 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Britney Wants is a thirty four year old black woman 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: living in Ohio. This January, a grand jury in Ohio 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: declined to indict her after she was arrested and charged 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: with the quote unquote abuse of a corpse after she 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: suffered a miscarriage. This is Brittany speaking about the moment 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,639 Speaker 1: when she went to seek care right after she lost 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: the pregnancy. 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: The nurse comes in and she's rubbing my back and 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: talking to me and saying everything's going to be okay. 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: Little do I know the nurse that was comforting me 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: and saying that everything was going to be okay was 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: the one who called the police. 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: I had a mother who had a delivery at home 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: and came in without the baby, and I need to 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: have someone go find the baby or directly what I 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: need to do with the lib or not. She says 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: she didn't want to look. She didn't want the baby, 34 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: and she didn't look. 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: The Warren City Police proceeded to then go to Brittany 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: Watt's home. They took her toilet apart, they retrieved the 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: fetus and used it for forensic evidence. This story is 38 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: escalo friante. It's bone chilling, but perhaps it's not that surprising. 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: Pregnancy criminalization has been accelerating, and we released a report 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 4: last September that shows that pregnancy criminalization is happening in 41 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: most states to various degrees. 42 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: This is Lurdis Rivera. She is president of Pregnancy Justice, 43 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: a national organization dedicated to defending the rights of people 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: who are pregnant. 45 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: Between two thousand and six and the Dobbs decision in 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, we found close to fourteen hundred cases 47 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 4: of pregnancy criminalism, and we know this is an undercap 48 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 4: The majority of the cases in our data are related 49 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 4: to people who are accused of using drugs during pregnancy, 50 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 4: which using drugs in and of itself is not a crime, 51 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: its possession is the crime right. But because the person 52 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: is pregnant, prosecutors have been very creative and interpreting laws 53 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: to apply to people who are pregnant. But we're seeing 54 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: all kinds of fact patterns, including falling down the stairs, 55 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: taking a prescribed medication from your doctor, getting into a 56 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: car accident while not wearing a seat belt, and then 57 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: of course having a miscarriage or still birth, and being 58 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: accused of causing this outcome. Well, we know there are 59 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: many biological and health reasons that cause this outcome, but 60 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: if we can't guarantee a perfect pregnancy, we are at 61 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: risk of being surveiled and reported to law enforcement. 62 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Food media, and PRX. It's Latino Usa. I'm Marienno Posa. 63 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: Today we continue our special election coverage for twenty twenty four, 64 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: the Latino Factor, how we vote. We're going to be 65 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: talking about one of the top mobilizing issues for Latino 66 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: and Latina voters, abortion and reproductive rights. Since the Supreme 67 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Court eliminated the constitutional right to an abortion, voters across 68 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: the country have overwhelmingly shown up in support of abortion rights. 69 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: Michigan is now the first state in the nation to 70 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: guarantee the right to an abortion. 71 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 5: The abortion access is the law of the land. 72 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 6: In Ohio. 73 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 7: The right to an abortion is now officially part of 74 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 7: California's state constitution. 75 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: And Latina and Latino latinx Latine voters are no exception. Currently, 76 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: Latinas represent the largest group of women of color impacted 77 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: by state abortion bands, and the community is sensitive to 78 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: the issue. When researchers ask Latinos and latin that's why 79 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: abortion policy was important to them, they responded that banning 80 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: abortions puts women's lives at risk. This election, over thirty 81 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: six million people in the Latino community are eligible to vote. 82 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: That makes Latinos the second largest voting cohort, which accounts 83 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: for almost fifteen percent of all voters, which means they 84 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: cannot be ignored. As President Biden has admitted. 85 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 8: We cannot do well in America if the Latino community 86 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 8: doesn't do well. 87 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Historically, the Democratic Party has had an advantage with Latino voters. 88 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what they're out? 89 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 6: Gore? 90 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Center Obama. 91 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: Do you believe Latino voters will not vote for a 92 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: black candidate? 93 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: Not I Illinois, they all voted for me. Still, Former 94 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: President Trump has his own edge among Latino voters, specifically men. 95 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: So this election, the stakes are high on so many 96 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: intersecting fronts because study after study shows that when abortion 97 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: access is taken away from people, it's women of color 98 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: who suffer the most, and all over the country, from 99 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: Colorado to Florida, Latinas are coming up with forms of 100 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: resistance and are fighting back. So in this episode, we're 101 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: going to talk with Lurs Ribera, who you heard at 102 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: the top of the show, and with two other Latinas 103 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: who are working on the ground, and we're going to 104 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: talk about the state of reproductive rights post Row, then 105 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: how those consequences are impacting how we vote. So Lure 106 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: this welcome Buena Satades, and welcome Yemenida. Stephanie Lorraine Pignero, 107 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: executive director of the Florida Access Network. It's the only 108 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: queer and bipod led statewide abortion funding organization in the 109 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: state of Florida. Stephanie, Hi, hello. And finally we're joined 110 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: by America Amirez. She's program manager at COLOR which stands 111 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: for Colorado Organization for Latina Opportunity and Reproductive Rights. It's 112 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: a community rooted organization that makes sure that Latinos and 113 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: Latinas can lead safe, healthy and self determined lives. When 114 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: US America. 115 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 9: Whens dast this depending on where we're at. 116 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: So welcome all of you to Latino USA. But before 117 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: we jump into the conversation, I just want to go 118 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: around the room, as it were, to get us temperature 119 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: check on all of you, because the three of you 120 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: are literally on the front lines of the issue of 121 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: reproductive justice. So just quickly, what's your temperature check? Like, 122 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: how are you feeling? And we're going to start with 123 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: you America. Ah, that's a tough question. 124 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 7: I think. 125 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of repro workers, we're just the. 126 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 9: Right like we're still trucking along but Valle la Pena, 127 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 9: so we're still doing the best that we can. Even 128 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 9: in the spaces like Colorado where we know that there's 129 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 9: at least some sort of protections, we still have a 130 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 9: ways to go. 131 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Ludez, what's your temperature check? 132 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: You know, this is a really tough time in our movement, 133 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: But I have to say that when I'm feeling discouraged, 134 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: I channel Ma Abuela Carmin. Her family worked on a 135 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: sugar plantation in Puerto Rico. She had fourteen pregnancies, She 136 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 4: gave birth to ten children, and nine of whom grew 137 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 4: up into adulthood. So I do this work in her name. 138 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: I do this work in the name of the Puerto 139 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 4: Rican women of my mother's generation and so many others 140 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: who were sterilized without informed consent, and who were robbed 141 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: of their bodily autonomy and agency. And I do this 142 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 4: work for the communities like Befer Stubs in Brooklyn where 143 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 4: I grew up, where in the name of war drugs, 144 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: they were cruelly impacted by policies that prioritize criminalization over 145 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 4: policies that meant to address discrimination. And so I can't 146 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: afford to be discouraged. And I feel inspiration by my 147 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: ancestors and my community. 148 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Stephanie, what's your temperature check? 149 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: We're feeling focused and hopeful about what our future looks 150 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 5: like because we firmly believe that our future is in 151 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: our hands and not in the hands of the state 152 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 5: or politicians who are more interested in using abortion as 153 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: an issue of political fodder than protecting the rights for 154 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: us to live a future with bodily autonomy. 155 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: So it appears that there has been a major shift 156 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: in Latino Latina public opinion about the issue of abortion. 157 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: As recently as the year twenty twenty, studies showed that 158 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: only five percent of Latino voters said that abortion was 159 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: one of their top issues, but when the fall of 160 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade happened, those numbers significantly changed. Today, abortion 161 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: is one of the top ten concerns for Latino and 162 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: Latina voters. Stephanie, you work in the state of Florida, America. 163 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: You're in Colorado, both of them with a significant Latino population. Stephanie, 164 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: let's start with you in Florida. How have reproductive rights 165 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: and abortion access changed since the fall of Roe v. Wade. 166 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 5: The Florida abortion landscape has changed most drastically and significantly 167 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: than it has in over twenty five years. 168 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: Today of Judge World, women looking to get an abortion 169 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: must pay twenty four hours after an initial doctor's visit 170 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: before getting the procedure. Governor Ron Desantas signing a bill 171 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: and to law Thursday that bans most abortions after fifteen weeks. 172 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 4: Florida lawmakers have given final approval to a six week 173 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: abortion band, paving the way for a tider grip on 174 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: abortion access in the state. 175 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: So wow. Florida was viewed as a quote abortion haven 176 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 5: for many states in the South that had even less access. 177 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 5: Now people are forced to leave the state and we 178 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 5: are now weeding on pins and needles every week to 179 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: hear what the State Supreme Court of Florida has to 180 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 5: say about our right to continue to access abortion care. 181 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: Amiti, guy, you're in Colorado. It was for a long 182 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: time considered to be a swing state, but since two 183 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: thousand and eight it has been pretty much a democratic 184 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: and liberal stronghold. And that coupled with last year's laws 185 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: expanding abortion access in Colorado, abortions appear to be politically 186 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: safe in Colorado. Amedic Gay, you are on the ground, 187 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: so can you just tell us what that looks like 188 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: in your state? Yeah? 189 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 9: So even though there's a lot of talk that Colorado 190 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 9: is very progressive and although we have very few restricts 191 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 9: and abortion, we knew that Roe v. Wade was not 192 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 9: enough for our communities, and when Roe was overturned, we 193 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 9: didn't have a state law that would expressly protect abortion, 194 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 9: and so that was when we signed the Reproductive Health 195 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 9: Equity Act in twenty twenty two, right before the Jobs decision. 196 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 9: And since then, what we've seen is that abortion and 197 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 9: abortion care and healthcare has been a top issue for 198 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 9: our community, and we've seen a huge increase in curiosity 199 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 9: and wanting to learn and engage in reproductive justice. But 200 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 9: also we've seen a lot of influx of patients coming 201 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 9: to Colorado. Although Colora is not a direct service organization, 202 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 9: we work a lot with organizations that have either abortion 203 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 9: funds or clinics or providers, and they talk a lot 204 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 9: about how there's a strain right now on their systems 205 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 9: to be able to provide services not just for Colorado's 206 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 9: but for folks that are traveling to Colorado from other 207 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 9: states to access services. 208 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: So we talked about criminalization at the top of the episode. 209 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: In the case of Brittany Wattson Ohio, and I just 210 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: briefly want to give Amitiica and Stephanie the opportunity to 211 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: jump in here and to give their perspective on this issue. 212 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: So America to. 213 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 9: Go a little bit further about the criminalization, I mean 214 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 9: to also think about folks that are undocumented or young 215 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 9: people who are already in those margins. We get a 216 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 9: lot of concern of even wanting to get routine procedures 217 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 9: done or routine care because of things like being criminalized. 218 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 9: We've talked to young people who are in high school 219 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 9: that don't want to go to states that don't protect 220 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 9: abortion for college because they don't know what will happen 221 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 9: once they're there. And that's not something that I considered 222 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 9: when I was thinking about college. And so it's really 223 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 9: concerning for us to know that there's just so many 224 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 9: other things that people thinking about having to think about 225 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 9: when it comes to this type of criminalization. 226 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: How about you, Stephanie. 227 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 5: I think a way that we're seeing this happen in 228 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 5: Florida is this past year a law was passed that 229 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: requires hospitals ask on their admission forms whether a patient 230 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: is lawfully present in the US. And what we're seeing 231 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: is now people who are immigrants, who may be undocumented, 232 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: are not getting the healthcare that they need. We're seeing 233 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 5: increased police presence in front of abortion clinics, We're seeing 234 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: an increased presence in surveillance, and they are scared. They're 235 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 5: not only scared about what is happening, they're also confused, 236 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 5: and rightfully so, are worried that what they are doing 237 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: is wrong. And we obviously stand on the fact that 238 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: getting an abortion, wanting an abortion, abortion, there is absolutely 239 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 5: no shame and nothing wrong with getting that. However, because 240 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: of the way these laws are being described and how 241 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 5: they are being executed, people are worried that what they're 242 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 5: doing is illegal, that getting an abortion is a crime, 243 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 5: and that is also stoking fear in people, and that's 244 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: by design to discourage people from accessing their bodily autonomy. 245 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: And this is moat of this. If I can just 246 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: add one other point, the overturning of ROW and the 247 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: rolling back of abortion rights. This is part of a 248 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: larger agenda to dismantle the games that have been made 249 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: by the women's rights movement, the civil rights, LGBTQ rights, 250 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: and workers' rights movements. 251 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: This is no simple reform. 252 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: It really is a revolution. 253 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 10: We want to breathe by any means there. 254 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: Well, lesbians and gay men have always been in the 255 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: vanguard of struggles for liberation, and just in this concrete it's. 256 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Not a Democrat or Republican thing. It's a workers thing. 257 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: The people are the ones that make these corporations go. 258 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: It's not the other way around. 259 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: We're demanding that the federal government do something to legalize 260 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 5: abortion now that waiting until November is not enough. 261 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino USA, what abortion allies and advocates 262 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: can learn from the green wave in Latin America and 263 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: will young voters show up to the polls come November 264 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: stay with us, say. 265 00:16:32,720 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 6: Yes, hey, we're back. 266 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Before the break, Nordes Rivera, Stephanie, Lorraine Bigneto, and America 267 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: Amides gave us a snapshot of what the two years 268 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: since the fall of Roe have been like. Now we're 269 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: going to expand on the new possibilities post row when 270 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: we take the shame out of abortion. So let's get 271 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: back to the conversation. Stephanie, you actually call yourself an 272 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: abortion storyteller. I'm sure that some people are saying, wait, what, so, 273 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: what is an abortion storyteller? And why is it important 274 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: in the context of the politics of today. 275 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 5: So an abortion storyteller to me is someone who is 276 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 5: reclaiming the narra about abortion and telling their story on 277 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 5: their own terms. For me, I've had two abortions, one 278 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 5: of them from a sexual assault in another because of 279 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 5: needing it, and both happen as a minor, and both 280 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: even today I would still not be able to access 281 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 5: because in Florida you need parental involvement to access an abortion. 282 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 5: If not, you have to go through a judicial intervention 283 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 5: called a judicial bypass and get permission from a judge. 284 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 5: So for me, it's really important to uplift my abortion 285 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 5: story and uplift the fact that my abortion was my decision. 286 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 5: And these barriers are very real because they are not 287 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 5: just geographic. They're economic, they are religious, they are social. 288 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 5: There are so many different barriers people are needing to 289 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 5: face and accessing an abortion, and it is important that 290 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 5: people hear the complexities of life that for some people, 291 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 5: getting an abortion is as simple as I want an 292 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 5: abortion and I'm going to go get one, And for 293 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 5: other folks they need to attrasad all these barreas to 294 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 5: access their bodily autonomy. And we deserve to hear all 295 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: of those experiences because we are tired of having our 296 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 5: stories and our narratives stolen from us and used to 297 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 5: push political agendas that are unsupportive about abortion care, and 298 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: not just by the opposition, but by our allies too. 299 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: And that's what's most important about abortion storytelling is destigmatizing abortion, 300 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: destigmatizing our narratives, and reclaiming what it means to access 301 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 5: bodily autonomy on our own terms. 302 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Even though I haven't Stephanie called myself an abortion storyteller, 303 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: I have talked about the fact that when I was 304 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: in college, I had two abortions, and at this point, 305 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have any shame. I'm thankful that 306 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: I was able to have those abortions. That's why I 307 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: talk publicly about it. But I want to ask you, Stephanie, 308 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: because on the one hand, storytelling is all about making 309 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: this public right, But on the other hand, the central 310 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: issue around Roe v. 311 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 6: Wade. 312 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a legal scholar, but I believe is about 313 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: the right to privacy. And yet in your case, Stephanie, 314 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: you had to go before a judge to get this 315 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: judicial bypass is so public and that was what allowed 316 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: you to actually be able to get access to an abortion. 317 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: So for you, where does privacy enter into the conversation. 318 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 5: I am also not a legal scholar, but that is 319 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: where I feel that our abortion rights and legal scholars 320 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: have more to grow. And absolutely we all deserve our 321 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 5: right to privacy about the decisions that we make around 322 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 5: our healthcare and around our bodies. But we continue to 323 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 5: have these repetitive, circular conversations about privacy and whether who 324 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 5: deserves it and who's more deserving of it. When we 325 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 5: need to reframe abortion and as an issue of human rights, 326 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: abortion as an issue of self determination that we all 327 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: deserve about our future. Because when we normalize abortion, we 328 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 5: are able to have bipartisan conversations. And that is what 329 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: when I talk to Miawilita, to my loved ones who 330 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: may have heard of abortion in the political sense, in 331 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 5: the way that it's been politicized, But when we have 332 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 5: conversations one on one about what would you do? Would 333 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 5: you still support me? And do you still love me? 334 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 5: They still love me. Mayawlia still loves me. The people 335 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 5: who love me and my life still love me, and 336 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: that is what's important to continue to lift up. And 337 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 5: that's why we continue to tell our stories and talk 338 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 5: to each other, because it's not just about telling the public. 339 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: You don't have to tell the public. You don't have 340 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: to come on a podcast. You don't have to do 341 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 5: those things for your story to be valid. Sharing with yourself, 342 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 5: sharing with your God, sharing with the people who you 343 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 5: love to remind them, because everyone loves someone who has 344 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 5: had an abortion, whether we know it or not. 345 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: For me, when I ended up having to tell my 346 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: mom and my dad about the abortions, you know, I 347 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: was so scared and the reaction from my Mexican parents. 348 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: My mom was like, Amihita, I would have wanted to 349 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: be there with you. You should have told me. I 350 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: would have held your hand. 351 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 5: One last thing I just want to add, because you've 352 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 5: brought up your mom and I just think it's so beautiful. 353 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 5: When I needed an abortion when I was sixteen, my 354 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: mom was not supportive and that was unfortunate because my 355 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 5: mom was my biggest ally in so many other ways. 356 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: And now fifteen years later, my mom is one of 357 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 5: our most active volunteers at my abortion Fund WOW, driving 358 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 5: people to and from their appointments and making them feel 359 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 5: affirmed and loved on because a lot of people are 360 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 5: going through their abortion by themselves because of that social stigma. 361 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: And I want to make sure that I say that 362 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 5: because people need to hear that people can be transformed 363 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 5: and love is what transforms us when we tell our 364 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 5: abortion stories. 365 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: So America, about the question of again, things evolving, what 366 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: has changed? I think a lot about terminology. When I 367 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: was growing up, when we got to the term reproductive rights, 368 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: it was a big deal to talk about reproductive rights. 369 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: The term now that you use to describe your work 370 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: is the framework of reproductive justice. So why do you 371 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: think it's essential to understand reproductive justice in the context 372 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: of this particular political moment. 373 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 9: If we look at reproductive rights, that's the legal protections 374 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 9: that protect the right to reproductive health care services, which 375 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 9: is usually focused on abortion and contraception. Reproductive justice is 376 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 9: based on a human rights framework, saying that it doesn't 377 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 9: matter where you are, who you are, what you look like, 378 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 9: where you're from, how much you make, you deserve these 379 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 9: rights because you are a person. So the tenets of 380 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 9: reproductive justice, as it was coined in June of nineteen 381 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 9: ninety four, are one to be able to decide when 382 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 9: and if you will have a child, in the conditions 383 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 9: under which you'll define and expand that family that includes 384 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 9: your fertility, adoption, and your breathing options. The second is 385 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 9: to decide to not have children and access to preventing 386 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 9: or ending a pregnancy in a safe and dignified manner. 387 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 9: The third tenant of reproductive justice is a human right 388 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 9: to care for your family in safe environments and healthy 389 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 9: and sustainable communities. And we've also been able to add 390 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 9: an intentional wording around a person having the human right 391 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 9: to be able to express their gender identity, their expression, 392 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 9: and their sexual orientation freely. This is really really important 393 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 9: in that reproductive justice comes as a body of work 394 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 9: from twelve Black women. It is rooted in black liberation 395 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 9: and ensuring that people have the ability and the accessibility 396 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 9: to be able to make the best decisions for themselves. 397 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 4: And what America described is really the true right to life. 398 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 4: And we have to stop giving the abortion opponents a 399 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 4: free past to claim the mental of life when their 400 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: focus on fetal rights is causing harm to the health 401 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 4: and lives of people were pregnant and ripping families apart, 402 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 4: when maternal and infant mortality is on the rise in 403 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 4: this country. It's the highest among all industrialized nations, in 404 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 4: the highest among states with abortion bands. There is an 405 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 4: increasing trend of suicide and overdose among pregnant people, so 406 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: we have to stop giving them a free past. What 407 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: America described as reproductive justice, that is right to life 408 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: and right to health, and that is what we stand for. 409 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: One of the things that has come out of this 410 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: particular moment in the United States is this interesting turn 411 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: towards Latin America. And in Latin America you have this 412 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: movement it's called the feminist Green Wave, and they've had 413 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: major reproductive justice wins in countries like Mexico and Argentina 414 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: by placing continual pressure for decades. Ludas, can you talk 415 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: about what advocates and allies can learn from the Latin 416 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: American Green Wave Lao la verde and how can it 417 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: be applied here in the United States. 418 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: So unlike in the US where we now joined Poland, 419 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: Nicaragua and then Salvadora in going backwards on abortion rights, 420 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 4: countries like Mexico, Colombia, Arendina, Chile have made strides. And 421 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: it's because of a combination of many different strategies, including 422 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: the legal strategy, but also organizing on the street, public health, 423 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: narrative change, all of this coming together to make progress. 424 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 4: And I just want to share the Court's reasoning in 425 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 4: the Mexico Supreme Court decision from September twenty twenty three, 426 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 4: because I think this really captures what the feminists on 427 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: the ground are helping to make the policymakers and the 428 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 4: change makers and the courts understand. So this is the 429 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 4: court's reasoning quote. The criminalization of abortion constitutes an act 430 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 4: of violence and discrimination based on gender, as it perpetuates 431 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: the stereotype that women and pregnant individuals can only exercise 432 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 4: their sexuality for procreation and reinforces the gender role that 433 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 4: imposes motherhood as a compulsory destiny. 434 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 10: Heldado zumpas somas in la lucha historica or dad or 435 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 10: surignia il sicio. 436 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: So the Mexico Supreme Court gets it two bad hours, doesn't. 437 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 9: And I think i'd also like to add that there 438 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 9: is a myth that Latinos who might also identify as 439 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 9: religious Catholics or cultural Catholics. I think that ends up 440 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 9: bleeding into one which is also not true. Latino support abortion. 441 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 9: We've been having abortion since the beginning of time. This 442 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 9: is not something that is only exclusively happening in one area. 443 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 9: Access and care is important to all of us, and 444 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 9: so we are seeing these countries are part of this movement. 445 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 9: It's because Latinos support it, all right, So let's talk politics. 446 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: Young voters are making it really clear that they're quite 447 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: dissatisfied with President Joe Biden because of his support of 448 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: Israel's war on Gaza and last month, although Biden did 449 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: win the Michigan primary, there were almost fifty thousand votes 450 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: for the uncommitted option on the Democratic ballot. And in Virginia, 451 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: during a speech on reproductive rights, young protesters came out 452 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: to voice their frustrations. 453 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 6: No, have you killed. 454 00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: Women? Have you killed Pala America? Can you tell us 455 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: what you're hearing on the ground in Colorado? In terms 456 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: of young voters, I think young. 457 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 9: People honestly are looking for representation to align with their 458 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 9: values and that's just difficult to come by either way. 459 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 9: We know that there's a lot of support for abortion 460 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 9: within the state, and we have part of our polling 461 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 9: to be able to support that. It's difficult to say 462 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 9: whether or not they're going to go one way or another. 463 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 9: In terms of the presidential election, but we do know 464 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 9: that it's still important for us to talk to them 465 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 9: about what's at stake. It's important for us to acknowledge 466 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 9: that young people are taking all of this into consideration 467 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 9: when it comes to their voting decisions, and so it's 468 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 9: really important and vital now more than ever for them 469 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 9: to vote along their values. But at the same time, 470 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 9: they're not living these single issue lives, and so it's 471 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 9: just really really complicated. 472 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: And Stephanie, how are you and the Florida Access Network 473 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: engaging specifically with young voters in your state. 474 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 5: You know, we organize in a few different communities around Florida, 475 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 5: and we are involved with Amendment four putting abortion on 476 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 5: the ballot in Florida, and young people are voting with 477 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 5: their values, and right now they don't feel like they 478 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: are being represented, especially not on the executive level. So 479 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 5: the concern is that folks are distracted. They're not interested 480 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 5: in voting down blue no matter what, which is the 481 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 5: typical tactic by the Democratic Party. They want to vote 482 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 5: for folks who share their values, for folks who are 483 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 5: speaking out against the genocide and Palestine, for folks who 484 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 5: are wanting to protect abortion access, and expand abortion access 485 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 5: no matter what, and unfortunately they are not seeing those 486 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 5: values represented. So what we are seeing is people are 487 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 5: voting with their conscience and voting with their values, and 488 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 5: we're curious about what that's going to look like in 489 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 5: Florida in the ballot box, especially with abortion being on 490 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 5: the ballot. 491 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: Stephanie, can you say a little bit more about what's 492 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: happening in Florida right now in terms of abortion being 493 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: on the ballot. 494 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 5: So right now we are in a legal battle trying 495 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 5: to make sure that abortion is able to get on 496 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 5: the ballot. 497 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 8: This court has until April first to make the ruling, 498 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 8: and so if this does make the November ballot, it'll 499 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 8: take sixty percent of voters to pass it and put 500 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 8: it in the Florida Constitution. 501 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 5: With political changes and with changes to the makeup of 502 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 5: the state Supreme Court, the supermajority Republican legislature has been 503 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 5: able to pass anti abortion laws back to back with 504 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 5: the hope of getting a reinterpretation of this state constitutional 505 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 5: protection for abortion rights. So now what the opportunity to 506 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 5: have voters vote directly for putting abortion on the ballot 507 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 5: and the protection of abortion. It is an incredible opportunity 508 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 5: for Floridians to show that they care about abortion rights 509 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 5: and that abortion rights are important to them and in 510 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 5: other states like Ohio. That gives us a lot of 511 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 5: hope that we are on the right side of history. 512 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: And it is not enough, right because what this ballot 513 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 5: initiative actually does is it restores abortion rights in Florida 514 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 5: to pre being overturned. It is twenty four week viability 515 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: ban and still does not undo parental involvement laws like 516 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 5: the one that impacted me. So while we think it 517 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 5: is an important opportunity for Floridians to be able to 518 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: vote for the direct right for abortion in Florida, we 519 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 5: also know that it is not enough that it is 520 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: codifying an abortion ban, and this is why we encourage 521 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 5: states around the country to really consider what does it 522 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 5: mean to dismantle anti abortion laws altogether America. 523 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: Bring us up to date in terms of what's happening 524 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: in Colorado with the dulying efforts on abortion there. 525 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, so we're currently in the process of collecting petition 526 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 9: signatures for our ballot measure that we are running. So 527 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 9: it's a constitutional amendment. 528 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 7: This pro abortion initiative would take protections here in Colorado 529 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 7: one step further by adding abortion rights to the state's constitution. 530 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 7: But this anti abortion initiative would identify a human being 531 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 7: from the moment of conception, making abortion illegal here in 532 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 7: this state. 533 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 9: So right now we're going through the process of making 534 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 9: sure that it gets on the ballot. But we know 535 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 9: that when abortion is on the ballot, abortion wins. We've 536 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 9: been seeing this since the DABS decision, and so we're 537 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 9: really trying to work towards that same thing. But ensuring 538 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 9: that we're working towards that access, that's what's really important 539 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 9: for us. This isn't the end all be all. This 540 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 9: is just one part of the puzzle in order to 541 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 9: provide some of that access. But that's currently what we're 542 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 9: working towards this year. 543 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: So when you say working, it really is a lot 544 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: of hard work. Frankly, decades upon decades of work by 545 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: women and allies on the issue of reproductive justice, and 546 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: a lot of that time it can be dark sometimes. 547 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: So to end, tell us what gives you hope, what 548 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: brings you joy. We're going to start with you, America. 549 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: What is something that brings you joy or hope? In 550 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 551 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 9: Four, my job is really working within the realm of 552 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 9: youth leadership, and so it brings me a lot of 553 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 9: joy to work with other young Latinas who are passionate 554 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 9: about the issue, equipping them with the same tools, the 555 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 9: same mentorship that I was able to come up with, 556 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 9: and to be able to see really the stars and 557 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 9: their eyes of really the hope that they have to 558 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 9: be a part of that change or part of that impact. 559 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: And so I have a lot of hope. Thank you, Luda. 560 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: This is what brings you some joy or hope these days. 561 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: I'm really taking the long view, and the overturning of 562 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 4: ROBE was devastating in many respects, and I think we're 563 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 4: seeing the consequences of that, and at the same time, 564 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: it is also an opportunity to create a different vision 565 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: for reproductive rights and justice. And what gives me hope 566 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 4: also is that we're able to help people in their 567 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 4: darkest hour and that we're a resource with so many 568 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: that would otherwise face the criminal legal system alone. So 569 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: if folks are facing criminalization because of their pregnancy and 570 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: they need help, I really hope that they would reach 571 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: out to. 572 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: Us, take us out. Stephanie. 573 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 5: What's giving me hope is modeling sustainable leadership for my team, 574 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 5: because if we can't continue to live and thrive, there 575 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 5: is no movement. There is no way we are frontline workers. 576 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 5: And what else brings me joy is enjoying the outdoors 577 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 5: and enjoying Florida before it drowns. There's so much beauty here, 578 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 5: like there's springs, there's beaches, there's just so much the sun. 579 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 5: And trying to nourish myself with the sun and the 580 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 5: water while I'm on this earth and earthly being brings 581 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 5: me a lot of joy and a lot of hope 582 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 5: to be able to continue to live and create a 583 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 5: utopia for me and for my community. 584 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Stephanie America and Luris. Thank you 585 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: for joining us on this roundtable as we delve into 586 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: politics and Latino and Latino voters and the issues that 587 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: matter to us, which has got to say us. Thank 588 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: you for joining me on Leatino USA. Thank you for. 589 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 5: Having us, Thank you, thank you so much for the congo. 590 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Monica Morales Garcia. It was 591 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: edited by Victoria Strada. It was mixed by Stephanie Lebau. 592 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: The Latino USA team includes Renaldo Leanos, Junior Andrello Pez Cruzado, 593 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: Lori mar Marquez, Marta Martinez, Mike Sargent, Nor Saudi and 594 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: Nancy Trujuillo. Benileiramidez is our co executive producer. Our senior 595 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: engineer is Julia Caruso. Our marketing manager is Luis Luna. 596 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: Our theme music was composed by Sege Rubinos. 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