Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast featuring the old Seusser, the
Speaker 1: new Old Blue Eyes, Talk Vote, and Daddy Ridge. That's
Speaker 1: about right from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's Draft week. Everybody, Dan hanss and all
Speaker 1: those other names here along with Greg Rosenthal and Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler And here we go. Mark you ready for this?
Speaker 1: Maybe one general manager? This via Albert Breer. This just
Speaker 1: to get you pumped up. Okay, because we're days away
Speaker 1: now from the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. If you
Speaker 1: have fifteen first round grades, then the class sucks, said
Speaker 1: the GM. And I got less than fifteen this year.
Speaker 1: What do we even why do we even watch it?
Speaker 1: Then this GM is spoken.
Speaker 2: I mean the counter would be that in years past,
Speaker 2: first round grades have been put on a slew of
Speaker 2: underperforming bus Yeah, maybe you've just devalued certain diamonds in
Speaker 2: the rough that will be fulfilling what we hope.
Speaker 1: I doubt that.
Speaker 3: I don't get that. First of all, there's like four
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are intriguing, like top ten picks.
Speaker 1: This is Ran Karthon, by the way, And then it's
Speaker 1: not I have no idea who said it.
Speaker 3: I see this a lot though, that every year around
Speaker 3: this time they're like, well, we only have about fifteen
Speaker 3: to eighteen first round grades that we usually have about eighteen.
Speaker 3: I feel like, then you're doing it wrong. There has
Speaker 3: to by definition, you should be averaging thirty two each year.
Speaker 1: But there's gotta be you know what I mean. Though
Speaker 1: you're saying sure worthy, but there there's a bar internally
Speaker 1: of what in their mind makes up a talent that
Speaker 1: is a first round Are.
Speaker 2: You comparing them to the body of draftable players over
Speaker 2: the last fifteen, twenty years and they're saying that they're
Speaker 2: not adding up and that's pretty like unanimous across the board.
Speaker 3: I guess I just think that's a silly way to
Speaker 3: put it, because the first round, by definition, would be
Speaker 3: your top thirty players, thirty two players on app Like,
Speaker 3: if that's how they're doing, if you're doing it every year,
Speaker 3: that you would have thirty two of those guys on average.
Speaker 3: If you went over like a ten year period, you
Speaker 3: would your average would be around thirty two. And they're saying,
Speaker 3: we usually have about seventeen. Well, then what's going on.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're if you're trying to pump
Speaker 2: up the draft, but I would say in general, like
Speaker 2: across the board, this is fewed as one of the
Speaker 2: weaker draft class that we've ever seen since we've been here.
Speaker 1: Finally, I will say this, at least it is a
Speaker 1: quarterback draft, which makes it a more interesting and alluring
Speaker 1: not Era Fisher scenario come Thursday night. So we don't know,
Speaker 1: and that's I guess that is like kind of your
Speaker 1: point too. It's like the idea that anyone actually knows,
Speaker 1: like who is what right now?
Speaker 3: It's well, we also heard like the greatest quarterback class
Speaker 3: of the since Marino included Zach Wilson and Trey Lance
Speaker 3: going two three, So it's like, I don't shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My thing is like if there's only fifteen or twenty
Speaker 4: and whatever first rounders, it makes the back after the
Speaker 4: first round that much more interesting because it's so unpredictable
Speaker 4: because some teams will have these guys. Some teams will
Speaker 4: have those guys, Like, we have no idea how this draft.
Speaker 1: That's how you pitch it.
Speaker 3: It does have a lot of like intriguing second and
Speaker 3: third round receivers and running backs, which is where we
Speaker 3: were at least like the May attention.
Speaker 1: A tall man in a suit just came into the
Speaker 1: studio behind the glass and patted Justin on the head
Speaker 1: and that stuck a twenty in his front pocket, and
Speaker 1: left without saying a word. Who was it? We don't
Speaker 1: know speaking of Justin.
Speaker 2: Thank you, I'm a company person.
Speaker 1: I walked into the studio to see the two mock
Speaker 1: draftsmen chopping it up, Sessler and Graver, Graver speaking in
Speaker 1: almost a little bit of a worried tone about how
Speaker 1: to handle the big mock draft off on Wednesday ahead
Speaker 1: of the real draft. Do you like that, Mark, seeing
Speaker 1: Justin seeming to be in his head a little bit
Speaker 1: this close to the mock draft.
Speaker 2: Well, I love the passions. Let's start right there with
Speaker 2: the positives. Whenever you talk about the positive traits, he's
Speaker 2: plugged in. He's already worked on his quite a bit
Speaker 2: of I got a text on the weekend about it
Speaker 2: from him, which I knew. I knew that he was
Speaker 2: toiling away. I have yet to beget my foul with Mark. Well,
Speaker 2: I think I just don't want to lose the conceit
Speaker 2: of the exercise. It's not that you sit. If you
Speaker 2: go spend four thousand hours doing your mock draft. Then
Speaker 2: it's like, the point is you're just like everyone else
Speaker 2: if you come up with it in about thirty five minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is what I typically do when I'm throwing a
Speaker 2: lot of spicy trades and stuff. That's what the point
Speaker 2: of the exercise is, is, like I, it's if you
Speaker 2: are if you If we're going draft Guru a road,
Speaker 2: that's cool, but then it's me versus another draft gurrule.
Speaker 1: I'm already dealing with thirty two.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, what if I told you the amount
Speaker 3: of hours that Justin puts into this has absolutely no
Speaker 3: impact on how accurate he is.
Speaker 2: That's exactly But that's exactly what the exercise is here
Speaker 2: to tell.
Speaker 1: Us, right right, It's an A B test.
Speaker 3: If you will now he could offer good analysis on
Speaker 3: the show, he'll feel better and more excited about the
Speaker 3: two thousand twenty three.
Speaker 1: Season, no doubt about.
Speaker 3: He'll know a lot, But I don't think he'll Let's
Speaker 3: do any better.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it real here. I think Justin, who's a
Speaker 1: young man who's striving for career gains, sees this as
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Well, he crosing stuff.
Speaker 2: He also crushed me last year so I think he's
Speaker 2: like you can start to see like that. We get
Speaker 2: the a version of Justin, which is a he's a
Speaker 2: very wonderful person. There's an element of compliance in his role,
Speaker 2: sure and cooperation. But then you see this other side
Speaker 2: of Justin. He's like, I will destroy Cessler two times
Speaker 2: sco but I'm not trying to. Where I'm coming from
Speaker 2: is like I'm trying to throw some chaos into the
Speaker 2: industry that if you spend thirty five minutes you probably
Speaker 2: come as close as ninety five percent of the people
Speaker 2: that spend six months on it.
Speaker 3: It's weird because Yessica when we were in London used
Speaker 3: the same words to describe Justin. There's an element of
Speaker 3: compliance to well, that's why resistance are so sorry. We
Speaker 3: keep talking about Justin. He's just sitting and right there
Speaker 3: you can you can jump in and one second, one.
Speaker 1: More thing about you. Yeah, And how he does in
Speaker 1: this mock draft. If he does go back to back, yeah, champion,
Speaker 1: if you will, it will accelerate his path to the
Speaker 1: next step. We usually have a producer about about two
Speaker 1: to three years before they just say I'm doing my
Speaker 1: own thing. If he nails this, I think he's gone
Speaker 1: in six months. I think that's what we're looking at
Speaker 1: the writings on the wall. Yeah, so part of me
Speaker 1: is hoping you failed, justin because I enjoy having you
Speaker 1: as our producer. But I also understand if you hit
Speaker 1: twenty out of thirty.
Speaker 3: Two thirty one, that's.
Speaker 2: Impossible, inevitable fireball, that's all the building.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping to get ten like that. Ten will be
Speaker 4: a huge win for He really cares, so.
Speaker 2: I do like that because there was a sort of
Speaker 2: a tension in his way when we were discussing this.
Speaker 1: Andy for for all the you know, the surface of
Speaker 1: it all, Mark's a competitive guy. I think Mark is
Speaker 1: wants to win too. I want to lose.
Speaker 2: But what I want to prove again is that I
Speaker 2: can do it in about twenty seven to thirty minutes
Speaker 2: tops and match the results of people working on it
Speaker 2: for seven or eight months. In general, in humanity, that's
Speaker 2: great for industry if you can find a way to
Speaker 2: get something done right.
Speaker 1: That speaks to like the three day work week, or
Speaker 1: that's all I'm trying to get to. All Right, we're
Speaker 1: trying to get to this show, So let's get into
Speaker 1: it now. Today is Monday, we have a lot of
Speaker 1: news to get through and some rumors as well, because
Speaker 1: things obviously are heating up. And then also we love it.
Speaker 1: It's a tradition around here, Sangwage props where we make
Speaker 1: our predictions for the draft and try to get people
Speaker 1: to go against us on said predictions, and then someone
Speaker 1: comes out looking great on draft nights. Sometimes sometimes it's
Speaker 1: a total bust. We all get everything wrong. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a little it's got some mock draftiness to it
Speaker 1: as well, so Sandwich props, Greggie I'm up later.
Speaker 3: It's a tried and true tradition. Our records in that
Speaker 3: are outrageous. If you go to go get my Lunch
Speaker 3: dot org.
Speaker 1: It's outrageous. Ryan Ryan Frontier? Is it Ryan?
Speaker 3: So far away from it?
Speaker 1: What is it? I don't know what I mean, You're
Speaker 1: so far away from it.
Speaker 3: You don't know. I don't think either. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's Ryan or Frontier that much. I know Chad Fourtiertier.
Speaker 1: I believe it was a Ryan Fourtier.
Speaker 2: I'm focused on the last name, which I believe was Fortier.
Speaker 1: This is when the producer would be helpful to jump
Speaker 1: in and save us or me.
Speaker 3: When I say outrageous though, I just mean the total amount.
Speaker 3: And if you just go back in there and you
Speaker 3: can find some gems like I saw Dan at one
Speaker 3: point we all were guessing where Kirk Cousins would go
Speaker 3: when he was leaving Washington. You had the jets that
Speaker 3: you're and there's the records. I mean, Mark, for instance,
Speaker 3: is one eighty and two hundred and five. And that's
Speaker 3: the problem with mark situation in this U you need
Speaker 3: to go undefeated for like three for like a year
Speaker 3: straight to get back to five hundred.
Speaker 1: I see think I.
Speaker 2: Come of the contest a little bit differently though.
Speaker 1: I think there's a through line here with your drafting.
Speaker 1: You're not looking for big time win loss victories. You
Speaker 1: just want to hit that big win.
Speaker 2: I'm not like a singles doubles hitter. I just look
Speaker 2: at once in a while crack a home running with
Speaker 2: a lot of striker.
Speaker 1: You're more like a Steve Balboni type, one.
Speaker 2: Of my least favorite athlete names of all time. So
Speaker 2: thank you, all Right, let's get to the news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think money is nice, championships are better. Hey,
Speaker 1: oh and that was that was Jalen Hurts and his
Speaker 1: press conference with the Eagles after signing that massive extension,
Speaker 1: and obviously Greg shot across the bow of the entire
Speaker 1: loam Armie there.
Speaker 3: I don't view it that way, but I like that
Speaker 3: he's he's using some of that money on on the hair,
Speaker 3: because you could tell he knew it was contract press
Speaker 3: conference not well. I thought it was a joke that
Speaker 3: I wasn't supposed to take serious.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm deadly serious he's saying, and in the regards
Speaker 1: to hey, you didn't end up getting the most guaranteed
Speaker 1: money ever. It's a nice contract, but you know, and
Speaker 1: he was clearly stating, Hey, I think.
Speaker 3: I think he's seen about his truth, which is that
Speaker 3: money's nice championship, but some things he can't buy, you.
Speaker 2: Know, when he h he got when the contract over
Speaker 2: to the Lamar.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there was any merit to what
Speaker 3: you say. I don't think it had anything to do
Speaker 3: with Lamar that I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Think, Okay, I wasn't the only one who thought that,
Speaker 1: But okay, I don't think he's taken a shot at Lamar.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I think I think that's preposterous.
Speaker 1: Of course it is.
Speaker 2: Of course they called him he was just lifting weights.
Speaker 2: It just said, you know the contracts come through, you're
Speaker 2: extremely rich. And he said great and just went back
Speaker 2: to lift more.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what you want from your franchise quarterback. Good
Speaker 1: for him, not good for several members and now former
Speaker 1: members of the Detroit Lions. This came through late last
Speaker 1: week the NFL suspended five players, including four Lions, for
Speaker 1: violating gambling gambling policy rap report Ian Rapport had reported. Initially,
Speaker 1: the league suspended number first round pick last year, Jamison
Speaker 1: Williams for six games. Quintin Quintez Cephas, Stanley Berryhill in
Speaker 1: safety CJ. Moore, as well as Commander's defensive end Shaka
Speaker 1: Tony Williams and berry Hill got six games. Cephas, More
Speaker 1: and Tony all got suspended indefinitely and can apply for
Speaker 1: reinstatement after the twenty twenty three seasons. This then led
Speaker 1: to the release of Cephis and more from the lines
Speaker 1: or other Detroit officials connected to this. And this is
Speaker 1: just about greg Ee, the stupidest thing I've heard in
Speaker 1: a long time in the league. When you read about
Speaker 1: the details of this story, knowing full well what happened
Speaker 1: with Calvin Ridley, knowing that the NFL now that we're
Speaker 1: in bed as a league with gambling are on the
Speaker 1: patrol in a very profound way to be this reckless.
Speaker 1: I feel for the guys because it costs them they're
Speaker 1: living in some cases, but it's hard to wrap your
Speaker 1: head around it.
Speaker 3: I think this was bound to happen, and maybe it
Speaker 3: will happen again a handful of times, right as this
Speaker 3: gambling policy in this new world we're living in happen
Speaker 3: until enough players sort of realize that it's just you're
Speaker 3: gonna get suspended. And some of the details that Jamison Williams,
Speaker 3: for instance, who has suspended six games for betting on
Speaker 3: college football, but he did it at the team facility
Speaker 3: instead of at home where it would have been fine,
Speaker 3: is very likely something not every NFL player is aware of,
Speaker 3: or even most NFL players are aware of, And you
Speaker 3: would hope after this they will be more aware of
Speaker 3: that and we can keep great players on the field, because, yeah,
Speaker 3: for a guy like CJ. Moore, for instance, who's like
Speaker 3: a core special teamer and his whole life was leading
Speaker 3: to this contract he just got, which was two years,
Speaker 3: four and a half million dollars with a year of
Speaker 3: one point four million dollars signing bonus because the Patriots
Speaker 3: were interested in He's like a you know, a twenty
Speaker 3: seven year old special teamer guy, like it just crushed
Speaker 3: his career. I'm sure he'll get a job in a year,
Speaker 3: but he is losing an incredible amount of money.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean crushed his career because of a decision
Speaker 2: he made.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing we where we are, you know,
Speaker 2: linked with the players is that in the offseason every
Speaker 2: year you go through a pretty in depth, hammer dropping
Speaker 2: course about what you can and cannot do when it
Speaker 2: comes to this, and I do I understand that if
Speaker 2: you're a player, you're new to the NFL, some of
Speaker 2: this stuff will go in one ear and out the other.
Speaker 2: I think the other problem is that we I mean,
Speaker 2: there are eighteen, nineteen, seventeen, ten year old people out
Speaker 2: there just gambling on their phones, and it's like it's
Speaker 2: part of maybe what you do. And then you come
Speaker 2: into the NFL and if you're thinking I can gamble
Speaker 2: on college football, maybe the breakdown of it happening at
Speaker 2: the facility is lost on you. I could see that.
Speaker 2: I think the idea that anyone was gambling on NFL games,
Speaker 2: So it's like the real example. I think it's not
Speaker 2: going to be the courses. It's like Calvin Ridley lost
Speaker 2: a year of his career and wound up on a
Speaker 2: whole different team because of this. If that doesn't sink in,
Speaker 2: it's like what will sink in until like five or
Speaker 2: six more of these guys.
Speaker 3: I think a handful of it. I saw a lot
Speaker 3: of people saying that, like, how could this happen when
Speaker 3: it happened to Calvin? Really, I was like, you think
Speaker 3: everyone in the NFL is like super aware of what happened.
Speaker 3: I know it's gonna happen a handful of times. And
Speaker 3: multiple Lion staffers were fired, uh for this in a
Speaker 3: month previous. So who knows exactly what was.
Speaker 1: Going on here?
Speaker 3: Was it like somehow altogether like a pool or whatever
Speaker 3: for the guys who got fired or lost the year?
Speaker 3: We don't know those details.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then James and Williams say I saw some
Speaker 1: takes out there like the NFL needs to, you know,
Speaker 1: clean it up, and jameson Williams getting caught up in
Speaker 1: this gambling on non NFL doing it from the facility.
Speaker 1: Of course, the league is not gonna want that. They
Speaker 1: don't want guys in the locker room talking about where
Speaker 1: they're laying the wagers down. It doesn't matter if it's
Speaker 1: NFL or not. And there's just got to be some
Speaker 1: common sense if you're gonna do that, know the rules,
Speaker 1: or this happens. Right.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of and I understand Dan, the
Speaker 3: hypocrisy on the NFL's level of like, oh, look like
Speaker 3: all these shows are presented by FanDuel and DraftKings and
Speaker 3: they're out here doing this, Like, okay, what is your
Speaker 3: other option here? You allow players to gamble on football? Like, right,
Speaker 3: you're just making an argument because literally no one thinks
Speaker 3: that that is a good idea. The whole team facility,
Speaker 3: college football thing. I get that that seems a little
Speaker 3: a little too particular, but it is what it is,
Speaker 3: and the whole like no one is arguing that they
Speaker 3: should be allowed to bet on the NFL would be insane.
Speaker 1: And not for nothing. Jameson Williams is a high level
Speaker 1: prospect first round pick. Missed a good chunk of last
Speaker 1: year with the knee injury that he suffered in college.
Speaker 1: Had one catch last year, a long touchdown. A lot
Speaker 1: of excitement about him entering this year healthy and ready
Speaker 1: to roll. And this is just a huge deflating aspect of.
Speaker 2: The star top five breakout player if you were, if
Speaker 2: you were a vaig to one, He's missed, you know,
Speaker 2: so much of his career already. This is how I
Speaker 2: first round picked two years in starts and not looks
Speaker 2: so good. But that said, I always feel like these suspensions,
Speaker 2: like from week seven on is an eternity. These seasons
Speaker 2: are so long that it's like they can get through.
Speaker 3: This, right Marvin Jones they signed recently, Maybe they knew
Speaker 3: this was coming as a third receiver Josh Reynold, demon
Speaker 3: Ra Saint Brown. But I do think they'll draft a
Speaker 3: receiver and or a tight end. They could use one.
Speaker 1: Here's a neat little segue. Kentucky quarterback Will Levis is
Speaker 1: now the favorite to be the number two overall pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. Multiple sports books
Speaker 1: now have Levis as that favorite to be selected after
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, who's widely expected obviously to go to the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Greg Mark. This comes, you know, amid continued speculation that CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 1: once upon a time believed to be either number one
Speaker 1: or number two, is not as well loved on draft
Speaker 1: boards for teams, opening the door for some zaniness and Levis,
Speaker 1: who's been profiled as a big, strong, high upside, but
Speaker 1: coming off a not so sterling final year of college
Speaker 1: and injury issues, him slotting at number two that would
Speaker 1: be seems like a gamble. But also maybe somebody's in
Speaker 1: love with him.
Speaker 2: And I think some teams view him as a safer
Speaker 2: pick than Anthony Richardson, who maybe has a freakier upside.
Speaker 2: If you can, if he becomes what you think, I
Speaker 2: mean to me, Will Levis had a great twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: and I think went with a lot of expectations last
Speaker 2: season and went it went down a little bit, and
Speaker 2: I think that it affected who will Will Levis, how
Speaker 2: he was seen by others. I mean to go number two, though.
Speaker 2: All we're hearing is that the Texans are this team
Speaker 2: sitting out there with a tangible disinterested picking picking a
Speaker 2: quarterback potentially at number two.
Speaker 3: Right, he's the favorite by a decent amount. He's like
Speaker 3: negative one fifty, So basically he's the favorite by a
Speaker 3: decent amount over the entire field combined, which is shocking.
Speaker 3: And I do put these odds as more newsworthy than
Speaker 3: basically any other odds that happen over the course of
Speaker 3: the season, because very often these odds are an indicator
Speaker 3: of what's gonna happen, and and like they change a lot.
Speaker 3: We saw that last year with the draft. The odds
Speaker 3: flipped and it was they were pretty accurate right before
Speaker 3: the draft. Doesn't mean this is gonna happen. I don't
Speaker 3: think Vegas knows anything more than for instance, the three
Speaker 3: of US know. But I think they're basing it on
Speaker 3: all the report reporting that's out there, more than the
Speaker 3: three of US. I just mean, like people have this
Speaker 3: idea that they have these inside uh tells, like that
Speaker 3: they have inside information. I don't buy that it's basically
Speaker 3: based on public reporting, but I think that the public
Speaker 3: reporting is pointing this way. And I don't think it's
Speaker 3: necessarily the Texans, wh would take them at too. I
Speaker 3: think it could be a team like the Patriots could be.
Speaker 3: It could be a lot of teams, could be the Titans.
Speaker 1: Who knows its got the Patriots in there.
Speaker 3: I don't like it, but that's you know, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of Levis Patriots talk. Mark has a Patriots a
Speaker 3: dark horse to trade up as a high just highlighted.
Speaker 1: You know, whenever you can get Greg and I in
Speaker 1: the same it's a good thing. It is. It gives
Speaker 1: me goosebumps. I have to say. Jeremy Fowler of ESPN,
Speaker 1: he is out there reporting that the Tennessee Titans and
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill could be parting ways. Despite reports going in
Speaker 1: both directions throughout the off seasons, teams, according to Fowler,
Speaker 1: believe that Tannehill is available via trade.
Speaker 3: Not a surprising I think It's been the case the
Speaker 3: whole offseason that I've sort of assumed Derrick Henry and
Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill are available in a trade if the right
Speaker 3: price came, and there's been no indications that anyone's shown
Speaker 3: much interest. So teams believe he's available. Whether that means
Speaker 3: the team goes big on Tannel, I don't know, but
Speaker 3: I think he could be available, especially if they get
Speaker 3: a quarterback in the first round.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of those scenarios where like,
Speaker 2: let's see what happens in the drafts, and if a
Speaker 2: team gets left out in the cold, Ryan Tannehill suddenly
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense for someone. It doesn't surprise
Speaker 2: me at all because you're also hearing the Tennessee is
Speaker 2: one of these clubs that is like looking at maybe
Speaker 2: jumping way up in the draft to get quarterback of tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So that would make Tannehill available.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Graver, Because it's funny when the
Speaker 3: more I watched Levis and I tried to like like
Speaker 3: him more and more I watched, and I think he's
Speaker 3: a good prospect. He makes sense as like a first
Speaker 3: round pick. He reminded me of Ryan Tannehill, kind of
Speaker 3: like a twenty twenty three version where he's definitely more athletic.
Speaker 3: He weirdly hasn't talked about enough as like he could
Speaker 3: be your wildcat quarterback. I mean that's literally what he
Speaker 3: was in college at first. So he's incredibly athletic, and
Speaker 3: he kind of reminds me of Tannehill as a player.
Speaker 4: I agree with that, And I tweeted out last week
Speaker 4: or maybe a couple of weeks ago that, like my
Speaker 4: most controversial draft take was I would be okay if
Speaker 4: the Titans took Will Levis sure, And I definitely think
Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill is like on the trade block if the
Speaker 4: right team came calling. They never did anything to restructure
Speaker 4: his salary this year. Nothing to like tack on extra
Speaker 4: years or a justice cap hit in any kind of
Speaker 4: lower way that might make it harder to trade him,
Speaker 4: but more manageable for this year. So I think him Henry,
Speaker 4: like Kevin Byard, all these guys are up for grabs
Speaker 4: if the right team.
Speaker 3: I just don't know where that team is.
Speaker 2: I think I just feel like the Atlanta Falcons makes sense.
Speaker 4: Hey, I have a something something cooking for a Wednesday
Speaker 4: with that mark, So okay, keep that on your keep
Speaker 4: that in mind.
Speaker 1: In other news. I will.
Speaker 2: We've been we've been talking Townehill to the Falcons for
Speaker 2: three months.
Speaker 3: How many versions of your mock draft have you gone
Speaker 3: through so far?
Speaker 1: Six? Wow?
Speaker 2: This is an absurd exercise because it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: he's in it to win it.
Speaker 1: He's in it to win it. What is Tom Brady
Speaker 1: up to these days? He's doing things like speaking at
Speaker 1: the Emerge America's at the Miami Beach Convention Center, whatever
Speaker 1: the hell that is.
Speaker 3: I want to know how much he was paid for
Speaker 3: that forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Well, he lives I think he lives in Florida, right, Well, sure,
Speaker 1: so it's a it's an easy trip. I think You're
Speaker 1: probably not getting Brady for less than half a mill.
Speaker 3: Right, that's a lot of money for an hour. I
Speaker 3: don't know how would.
Speaker 1: You get the glad handing the photo ops two and
Speaker 1: seventy grand between two seventy and five. I have no
Speaker 1: fail I feel like I think it's like ten g's
Speaker 1: or something like.
Speaker 3: A hundred felt like a lot for an hour. But
Speaker 3: you might be right, You might be right.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Anyway, So he was there and uh,
Speaker 1: someone asked him, I don't know if there's a reporter
Speaker 1: that I don't know what's going out at Emerge America's.
Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know what emerged.
Speaker 1: It was a Q and A scenario.
Speaker 3: It was like him and a host talking about who
Speaker 3: knows what? And he the host asked him.
Speaker 1: As for what else is going on? You're right, justin
Speaker 1: please look up what Emerge America's is. Anyway, here's the question,
Speaker 1: is there any chance you're coming out of retirement and
Speaker 1: playing for the Finns?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Here's the response from Tom Brady via b Kaminsky on Twitter.
Speaker 3: Now that I'm not affiliated with any team anymore, and
Speaker 3: you and I have strong ties.
Speaker 1: With a couple of teams.
Speaker 3: I do have some friends on the Dolphins that I
Speaker 3: really liked, so I wouldn't say this.
Speaker 5: They root for them all the time, but I root
Speaker 5: for my friends to do well, and several of them
Speaker 5: played for my.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that? That was a bizarre answer.
Speaker 3: It was a very direct question too. He was like,
Speaker 3: would you come out of retirement to play for the Dolphins?
Speaker 1: And his response was I have friends on the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the friends he doesn't have is the
Speaker 2: first rounder they would have picked if they weren't doctor
Speaker 2: first rounder. For talking with Tom Brady, you know who
Speaker 2: else isn't a friend? Probably Tua, who's like, bro, shut up.
Speaker 2: Do you think I'm trying? I have enough on my plate.
Speaker 2: I'm Tua.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what I'm dealing with. I'm Tua,
Speaker 1: and I know about the yacht trip and the doctor
Speaker 1: draft picks and and my injury issues. And now you're
Speaker 1: gonna come out and basically leave the door open. I'm
Speaker 1: not putting too much into it, but it is interesting.
Speaker 1: He didn't say, no, I'm done, I'm retired.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty ruining for the Dolphins. I'm putting a little
Speaker 3: into it because the question was as simple as could be.
Speaker 3: Is there any chance you're coming out of retirement to
Speaker 3: play for the Fins? And you couldn't answer that even
Speaker 3: in the least. I also want to know who are
Speaker 3: his friends? Who are his friends on the team. Is
Speaker 3: he friends with Austin Jackson, the right tackle coming off
Speaker 3: of an injury? How about cater Cahou like the the
Speaker 3: slot cornerback. I am looking up and down this friend
Speaker 3: Jerome Baker.
Speaker 1: The Braxton Barrios back in their days of doing and
Speaker 1: you could see them hanging out.
Speaker 3: Okay, you got ross. That's good. I forgot. I forgot
Speaker 3: friends with the owner of the team. Forgot Braxton Barrios
Speaker 3: was on the team.
Speaker 1: But he said multiple friends, so we're gonna get Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't really see. It's not like an older roster
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: You know, they've shared a lot of big stages together.
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: You know. Maybe I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's weird, yes, justin Emerge America's is the premier technology
Speaker 4: conference transforming Miami into a global tech hub. And if
Speaker 4: you go to their website, there are two big buttons
Speaker 4: on the main page. One of them is register and
Speaker 4: the other one is meet tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, so I think he got paid very tech
Speaker 2: hub four hundred. I'm gonna say, I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 2: I might improvise my two seveny in his back pocket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of it, we will. It's not on the
Speaker 1: books all right in other news. So I guess keep
Speaker 1: a eye on the Tom Brady situation. I choose not to,
Speaker 1: but I understand why we must.
Speaker 3: Well, if something happened to Tua, I now feel like
Speaker 3: I don't that at least in Tom Brady's mind. It's
Speaker 3: it's an open question.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're a week out from Tua acknowledging that
Speaker 2: he put deep contemplation into retiring. Sure, I think that
Speaker 2: helps to it when Tua goes and says that he's
Speaker 2: not helping his own case.
Speaker 1: But it does continue to build. It does the non
Speaker 1: answer does continue to build this idea that Brady is
Speaker 1: obviously keeping his options open this year, and because I
Speaker 1: think I floated the Raiders last year, is like he's
Speaker 1: their backup quarterback right now. Yeah when Jimmy g if
Speaker 1: he gets hurt and they don't draft QB. Like, I
Speaker 1: think he's very open and maybe he's playing it smart,
Speaker 1: like I don't know how I'm gonna feel in October
Speaker 1: like I might be dying. And then and then somebody,
Speaker 1: I know that's a quote unquote friend calls me up.
Speaker 1: So he doesn't want to give that answer one way
Speaker 1: or because if he says yes, I'm open to it,
Speaker 1: it's a circus. If he says no, he's gonna feel
Speaker 1: like he's going back on his word or make it
Speaker 1: seem like he's waffling. So he's trying to like cut
Speaker 1: it down the middle. It's you know, there's no way
Speaker 1: it's done with Tom Brady. No, it's in me.
Speaker 2: I think Also when your golf rival Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 2: able to take his situation and elongate to do what
Speaker 2: he's done with it, to turn into a like months
Speaker 2: long drama for the third year in a row, it's
Speaker 2: like Brady's like, I can do that to you.
Speaker 3: Where he's out on the golf course, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: who's this. Oh yeah, it's it's Braxton and Andrew Van Ginkel,
Speaker 3: your best bros. You want to come in.
Speaker 1: All right, let's pause the news right here, get a
Speaker 1: break and come right back. Al Right, we're back. The
Speaker 1: new coach of the Cardinals is our friend and rising
Speaker 1: ATM star Jonathan Gannon. There was a question an answer
Speaker 1: session connected with the uniform reveal of the Cardinals. Is
Speaker 1: that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes, they put out new uniforms last week.
Speaker 1: Great perfect timing, and he discussed at times a difficult
Speaker 1: last season in Philly, despite the fact that the Eagles
Speaker 1: had this big year on both sides of the ball
Speaker 1: and nearly won the Super Bowl A. Gannon was criticized
Speaker 1: the time for the Eagles and the scheme, and he
Speaker 1: had this to say when discussing some of the issues
Speaker 1: he had, including not talking to the media immediately after
Speaker 1: their defense collapsed in Super Bowl fifty seven.
Speaker 5: I'm very comfortable talking to media. Philly is a very
Speaker 5: hard media market. We were nine to zero and I
Speaker 5: did my presser and they say, coach, we want you fired.
Speaker 5: And I said, I said, we're the number one defense
Speaker 5: in the NFL right now in every statistical category. Why
Speaker 5: do you want me fire? You don't blitz enough. I said, well,
Speaker 5: we leave the league in sacks by thirty plus sacks.
Speaker 5: So if you want to come call the defense and
Speaker 5: you can have at it. But uh no, it's uh
Speaker 5: it's it's it's cool.
Speaker 3: He went on too, and like like why he said, like,
Speaker 3: why do you want me fired? You don't blitze. I mean,
Speaker 3: this never happened. No one ever called for him to
Speaker 3: be fired. Certainly, no one ever did at all.
Speaker 1: People called. People checked that. First of all, they weren't
Speaker 1: nine to zero at any point. People checked like the
Speaker 1: transcripts in that time and didn't find any type of
Speaker 1: back and forth with Gannon in the media about this. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he's a little in his feelings about some criticism he's getting.
Speaker 2: I mean, the year before though, the players were very
Speaker 2: critical of the defense, right, I mean, there were there
Speaker 2: was criticism around him, but that interaction, like it was
Speaker 2: interesting to see, like Philly beat writers come out of
Speaker 2: the woodwork as they should and say this did not occur,
Speaker 2: I mean to the way he described.
Speaker 3: Well, I just think it's a major red flag of
Speaker 3: how he's going to handle this next year because in
Speaker 3: his head, this is what happened a year ago, and
Speaker 3: it never it never happened. Plus, if you're that like
Speaker 3: loose with how you're presenting things to the media, you're
Speaker 3: you're gonna get You're gott and I get in trouble
Speaker 3: like that. He continued, like it went on a little
Speaker 3: bit like why do you want me fired? And they
Speaker 3: said you don't blitz enough, and he's just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I admit that it was probably all in his head
Speaker 3: of how that all happened. But he also famously did not,
Speaker 3: as he said, answer any questions after the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: It's like, not a great sign either.
Speaker 1: I think I think you were just what you said
Speaker 1: is very right in that, especially at this high profile
Speaker 1: level job, he's gonna learn quickly he can't shoot from
Speaker 1: the lip without everything coming out of his mouth being
Speaker 1: something that is actually true, because people will look it
Speaker 1: up and you'll kind of look it makes him look
Speaker 1: a little weak and like he's it looks defensive defensive,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I cannot think I cannot point to
Speaker 2: a team right now that needs an offseason with maybe
Speaker 2: some tempered lower non trauma. You don't need this coach
Speaker 2: creating a hot soup every week with with problems.
Speaker 3: I want to make to the Cardinals, we're gonna fight,
Speaker 3: We're gonna say something positive for their fans on Draft night.
Speaker 3: I always I'm gonna try. It's been tough.
Speaker 1: Would have they like missed their pick or something. This
Speaker 1: is the twenty year anniversary. By the way of the
Speaker 1: Vikings falling, Actually two spots in the draft shout out
Speaker 1: to the team's right behind them. It was the Ravens,
Speaker 1: and I believe maybe the Chiefs who turned in their
Speaker 1: cards sensing drama and miscalculation on the Minnesota side of things,
Speaker 1: so they dropped from seven to nine and still got
Speaker 1: a great player, it should be stated, the guy they
Speaker 1: wanted all.
Speaker 3: Along, Kevin William William in their Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1: In their Ring of Honor, And there's a really good
Speaker 1: piece on ESPN they dropped this morning, breaking down all
Speaker 1: the drama behind that, and a lot of it went
Speaker 1: back to an owner who was losing money with the
Speaker 1: Metrodome and wanted them to trade back even if it
Speaker 1: was a bad value, so they would pay their first
Speaker 1: round pick less money and have less of in the
Speaker 1: old rookie pay scale, which was massive. Red mccar pretty
Speaker 1: dark stuff. Red McCombs who sold the team shortly there.
Speaker 1: That was so long ago. Hook em horns? What are
Speaker 1: you hooking horns over there?
Speaker 4: That's the name of our business school, the Red McComb
Speaker 4: School of Business.
Speaker 1: Absurd. It was so long ago.
Speaker 2: I was watching that in a like, not on television,
Speaker 2: but for some reason in like a college library. I
Speaker 2: wasn't in college, but they showed the picks, you know,
Speaker 2: they'd come up on computer without sound, one by one,
Speaker 2: and then suddenly the vikings vanish off the screen. I
Speaker 2: was like, what on earth occurred here?
Speaker 1: Shout out from the Kicker Club to Tyler Bass, who's
Speaker 1: got bottle service. He got a four year extension from
Speaker 1: the Bills. He's one of the steadiest guys in the league.
Speaker 1: And finally, before we get to some rumors, this is
Speaker 1: news Matt Patricia. He's now joining the Eagles defensive coaching staff,
Speaker 1: which makes sense a b I didn't realize. I guess
Speaker 1: I kind of knew, but obviously didn't work out with
Speaker 1: him being a major figure in New England's offense to
Speaker 1: say the least. But I was surprised that they just
Speaker 1: kind of kicked him to the herber. Did he leave
Speaker 1: by his own choice or how did the Belichick conversation
Speaker 1: go with Patricia after that year in which Patricia got
Speaker 1: put in a bad spot? Did he get the choice
Speaker 1: to stay or was Bill like, hey, you weren't good
Speaker 1: at this.
Speaker 2: You got to seem like a good time for a breakup.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've spent a lot of time as humans
Speaker 2: finding out what Matt Patricia can't do, so I hope
Speaker 2: he can do this.
Speaker 3: Man Belichick wouldn't answer the Patricia questions my feel of it,
Speaker 3: and I think those two are very close, because he
Speaker 3: did confirm Joe Judge was going to be back, but
Speaker 3: wouldn't say about Patria. My feel of it was like
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick was working as hard as possible to get
Speaker 3: Matt Patricia a job elsewhere, but he was not coming
Speaker 3: back to the Patriots, And if I really had to guess,
Speaker 3: like that might not have been Bill Belichick's decision either.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of Robert Kraft.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Craft is a guy he knows when
Speaker 1: he says things. It's not always direct. He's a successful businessman.
Speaker 1: He might have other thoughts, but he went out of
Speaker 1: his way to absolve Matt Patricia in those comments and
Speaker 1: went after Belichick directly about that. But anyway, it's good
Speaker 1: for Patricia, who obviously didn't do well as a head
Speaker 1: coach in Detroit and it was a disaster in New England,
Speaker 1: but he's done things in his career. Belichick, who we
Speaker 1: respect more than anyone thinks very highly of him, so well,
Speaker 1: maybe he's up on the accelerator.
Speaker 2: On Patricia, you're right, I will amend what I said,
Speaker 2: the tone with what I which I came in on
Speaker 2: that we.
Speaker 1: Saw you put him ten feet underground.
Speaker 2: We saw and Patricia at the owners meeting hanging out
Speaker 2: for hours together with their wives. I guess if Belichick
Speaker 2: is Linda Holiday wife. I believe she's still a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I don't know, longtime GF.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at this time, it's got to be common law.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's entering that we look at it. Please
Speaker 1: craver that Goldie Hawn Kurt Russell territory where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: don't need it, don't.
Speaker 3: Need go down that road if you don't three times
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion Matt Patricia put on.
Speaker 1: All right, let's share some rumors that we've seen out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: I will throw this one out there via Peter King
Speaker 1: via Bleacher Report on C. J. Stroud, it's no Locky
Speaker 1: go in the top seven of the twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: NFL Draft Top seven.
Speaker 2: That s two score that has gone out about him,
Speaker 2: you know, and we we'd heard about that a little
Speaker 2: bit before it became news. Seems to have impacted his
Speaker 2: draft stock. To some agree because on tape watching him throw,
Speaker 2: I think he is like the most natural thrower and
Speaker 2: it's like intoxicating to watch him. But there's something going
Speaker 2: on with him and not being a fit for you know,
Speaker 2: not number one, not number two necessarily, and like if
Speaker 2: the Raiders don't take him at seven where they're sitting,
Speaker 2: that would be remarkable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I am not totally shocked that a lot
Speaker 3: of teams have the quarterbacks in different orders. I think
Speaker 3: there's some teams that certainly some media folks and I
Speaker 3: can see why I have richardson one or two. There's
Speaker 3: there's certainly a lot of teams by the reporting out
Speaker 3: there that has levis two, and then by you know,
Speaker 3: process of elimination, that means on some boards at least
Speaker 3: Stroud is four. So he's probably anywhere from one to four.
Speaker 3: But I don't buy it because I think the Colts
Speaker 3: at four would make a lot of sense. And then
Speaker 3: every you know, Seahawks, Lions, Raiders to me are all
Speaker 3: potential quarterback spots.
Speaker 2: I mean, or someone trades up. I mean, I just
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'd be surprised.
Speaker 1: To me.
Speaker 3: He seems like the guy that the Colts end up
Speaker 3: building around, especially if Levis goes before him, that'd be
Speaker 3: crazy too.
Speaker 1: I'll throw another thing out Peter Schrager. Of course, NFL
Speaker 1: Network Zone from Good Morning Football had to Here's what
Speaker 1: I heard breakdown on the program this morning. He heard
Speaker 1: Jon Robinson and Jamiir Gibbs will go in the first round.
Speaker 1: So two running backs in the first round. Jalen Carter
Speaker 1: won't fall out of the top six. Sam Laporta could
Speaker 1: go before Darnell Washington. Arizona is quote open for business
Speaker 1: at picked three, and he said Houston is not scared
Speaker 1: to pass on a QB. Some of this stuff maybe
Speaker 1: we're gonna get on get into in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But just throwing that out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, Carter could be if the off field stuff
Speaker 2: you if that were not in existence. Cential top number
Speaker 2: one pick and you're talking about Seattle at five and
Speaker 2: Detroit at six. I know, Seattle number one is like
Speaker 2: an absolute home run target for jailing Carter.
Speaker 3: Right him and Richards, they're that pick is maybe the
Speaker 3: most fascinating in the draft. You mentioned Jamir Gibbs who
Speaker 3: we haven't really touched on too much, but you know,
Speaker 3: really dynamic pass catching.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Running back almost seems like a maybe a more dynamic,
Speaker 3: bigger version of Travis Etn who did go in the
Speaker 3: first round. And I think one of the reasons why
Speaker 3: this draft isn't getting a lot of love is because
Speaker 3: maybe the best position, and certainly close to the top,
Speaker 3: is running back. There's like seven or eight running backs
Speaker 3: that I think, depending on what you want, whether it's
Speaker 3: Zach Sharboney or Taji Spears, Kenny Mack, like Devin Achin,
Speaker 3: like those are round two three guys, but like a
Speaker 3: lot of dynamic running backs, I mean kind of need it.
Speaker 3: If you look over the last few years, there haven't
Speaker 3: been a lot of good running backs entering in the league.
Speaker 3: And even at the top. Jamir Gibbs, I think people
Speaker 3: just love his skill set that he could get.
Speaker 2: But that nugget should be that Jamiir Gibbs might go
Speaker 2: in the first round. Not right, but it would be
Speaker 2: literally stunning to the mind if Bejon Robinson.
Speaker 1: The question with Bejeon Robinson is I think how high
Speaker 1: does he go in the first run. I think in
Speaker 1: the front half or the back half, front. Do you
Speaker 1: have a prop on that?
Speaker 2: I mean, somebody, some of this stuff absolutely cuts into that.
Speaker 1: Because I was going to ask the fob up question.
Speaker 1: But let's stick a pin in it. Anybody else have
Speaker 1: a rumor to share before we move on?
Speaker 3: Justin you had a lot of rumors out there. Any
Speaker 3: of your favorites you want to throw out?
Speaker 4: Sure, yes, there is a bunch I think Raiders like
Speaker 4: in addition to this is like adding onto the stroud
Speaker 4: falling out of the top seven was that the Raiders
Speaker 4: are quote unquote out on quarterbacks after they failed to
Speaker 4: acquire the number one pick, and they're now targeting a
Speaker 4: corner at seven.
Speaker 3: That was from Todd.
Speaker 1: McShay that into Tom Brady is their backup plan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And and like McDaniels had a lot
Speaker 4: of interesting comments at the owner's meetings about like how
Speaker 4: he really like thought that it was important to go
Speaker 4: get quarterback and they're like looking forward to drafting a
Speaker 4: quarterback and like weird hints like that. But now it
Speaker 4: feels like maybe they will either wait till Day two
Speaker 4: or not draft one at all.
Speaker 3: They they are in the perfect spot to take the
Speaker 3: top cornerback on the board. Whoever they believe that to be,
Speaker 3: whether it be Whetherspoon or Gonzal.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine Tom Brady and Jimmy g back in
Speaker 2: a quarterback room together. The one thing I thought with
Speaker 2: the Raiders, the more you learn about the quarterbacks, is
Speaker 2: that Bryce Young nailed that S two test, and they've
Speaker 2: talked about him. He was excellent with Bill O'Brien at Alabama.
Speaker 2: You talk about him as like a tom Brady level processor,
Speaker 2: and that feels like something that Josh McDaniels doesn't want
Speaker 2: to settle on with a player that's not offering the
Speaker 2: same thing. It's like he seems reluctant to go get
Speaker 2: the guy that he can truly groom as his rookie.
Speaker 1: Court and maybe it would take some of the edge
Speaker 1: off it in this in this alternate reality, I think
Speaker 1: tom Brady's only there if, like Jimmy g is in
Speaker 1: a lower leg cast again, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of those situations where it's not.
Speaker 2: He's a great situation for Tom Brady in terms of
Speaker 2: that roster. It's like you want, I mean, if I'm
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, I want to go somewhere like the Dolphins
Speaker 2: where it's like you're a playoff ross from day one.
Speaker 3: Thinking about that the Raiders were trying to get up
Speaker 3: to one. It just points out how off like the
Speaker 3: reporting and Vegas, for instance, can be, because at one
Speaker 3: point Bryce Young was a significant underdog and c. J.
Speaker 3: Stroud was a heavy, heavy favorite for like a week
Speaker 3: or two in Vegas to be number one overall. Since
Speaker 3: then we found out, Okay, the Panthers are taken Young.
Speaker 3: The Raiders tried to trade up to one, and Adam
Speaker 3: Schefter reported on Monday, I thought this was really interesting
Speaker 3: that the Texans were very aggressive trying to get up
Speaker 3: to one from two, and presumably they were gonna take
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, and that's why they're not in love with
Speaker 3: taking a quarterback now at two. And the difference was
Speaker 3: the picks were similar, but the Bears threw in DJ
Speaker 3: Moore and DJ Moore ended the converse.
Speaker 2: The difference also was the result of one of your
Speaker 2: favorite regular season games of the year, Greg, where the
Speaker 2: Texans like haphazardly won their season finale with a coach
Speaker 2: who was Ken days later and a quarterback who's now
Speaker 2: in the rear view mirror.
Speaker 3: Don't do that. I gotta go get your quarterback and
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of stupid. Look, hey, Davis Mills helped
Speaker 3: himself out there. He made two or three plays in
Speaker 3: that game that.
Speaker 1: Davis Mills help himself. It's like you set your employer
Speaker 1: on his fire. He also the ball that essentially won
Speaker 1: the game went right through the You got.
Speaker 3: To say that, But there was a couple of playoffs
Speaker 3: come down. There was there was one play before that
Speaker 3: where he was sprinting right and threw on the run
Speaker 3: to save the game.
Speaker 1: And what a special time. It was credible for anything else,
Speaker 1: justin real quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last one this from Mike Florio greg PFT. The
Speaker 4: Seahawks may be targeting Anthony Richardson at pick number five,
Speaker 4: which would like almost everyone is putting Jalen Carter into
Speaker 4: the Seahawks at five, or Tyree Wilson or whatever best
Speaker 4: ed rusher happens to make it to number five. If
Speaker 4: they took Anthony Richardson, I think that would throw a
Speaker 4: lot of mock drafts out of whack. And so I'm
Speaker 4: I'm leaning into this rumor.
Speaker 2: Torn up, torn up by the thought of richards and
Speaker 2: going to yell and ruining.
Speaker 4: I also would love the Titans to draft Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 4: So that would.
Speaker 3: Be I love g know, and yet I think they
Speaker 3: should take Richardson at five and that like it just
Speaker 3: seems like you're not going to have a chance for
Speaker 3: a guy that they potentially special. I don't think that
Speaker 3: would happen, but I think it makes some sense because
Speaker 3: just because I think he is uniquely that worth.
Speaker 2: Isn't it perfect though, because Seattle, you know, by their
Speaker 2: own design, did a great job of getting into this
Speaker 2: position by a believing in Gino making it work. And
Speaker 2: now you could say Anthony Richardson maybe the guy that
Speaker 2: could use half a season or a season behind Geno.
Speaker 2: But I think you'll find out who Gino is if
Speaker 2: he suddenly is his error parent is a drafted he'll.
Speaker 3: Have like get over on. He'll have to have a
Speaker 3: winning record after seven weeks or else he gets some heat.
Speaker 1: So that is that before too, that he was in
Speaker 1: New York when Donald was drafted, and he handled himself
Speaker 1: well before the I mean yeah, but he wasn't.
Speaker 2: He wasn't like Gino Smith when Donald was drafted was
Speaker 2: persona on Grada and.
Speaker 3: There he was not nearly as good as quarterback obviously too,
Speaker 3: and our beer had one report about who the chief
Speaker 3: Chiefs have been calling about moving up and these are
Speaker 3: usually right. These are the types of pre draft reports
Speaker 3: that I'd like to hear a guy like Breer on
Speaker 3: who the Chiefs are calling because other teams are telling
Speaker 3: them this Zay Flowers or Jamiir Gibbs. So they're kind
Speaker 3: of like looking at some offensive weapons to add and.
Speaker 2: They the Chiefs went out of their way to have
Speaker 2: Zay Flowers spend a day working out with Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: last Wednesday, and there's a lot of smoke there and
Speaker 2: that would be a very intriguing match to me.
Speaker 3: He's a better version of Kadarius Tony or a different
Speaker 3: but more complete version.
Speaker 1: And the yeah, the Jalen Carter Seattle stuff is you know,
Speaker 1: I sometimes it's like, especially when you get to this process,
Speaker 1: when you're this close to the draft, it becomes like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's who they're gonna take. And there's logic to it
Speaker 1: because this is exactly the type of prospect that Seattle
Speaker 1: in the past. Oh, there's some character issues, Uh, we
Speaker 1: believe the person, there's more to the person than that.
Speaker 1: We know how to handle those situations. We want this
Speaker 1: high level talent that we think we can help become
Speaker 1: a pro. That's Jalen Carter in a nutshell, that's what
Speaker 1: teams are hoping will happen, and Seattle just happens to
Speaker 1: be in the spot of the draft where he would
Speaker 1: come off the ball. And yet it's like sometimes it's
Speaker 1: like it's so logical that people just kind of like
Speaker 1: bank it and move on with their draft, and it's like,
Speaker 1: we don't know what they actually think or what they
Speaker 1: especially at quarterback, what they think about the future of
Speaker 1: that position. They have the fifth pick, this is a
Speaker 1: huge opportunity for that organization coming off a playoff season
Speaker 1: to take a lottery QB. It's gonna be tough to
Speaker 1: pass on that.
Speaker 3: I am now crossing out one of my go get
Speaker 3: my lunches. I have options, but it just seems too
Speaker 3: vanilla that I had either the Seahawks, the Seahawks taking
Speaker 3: Richardson or Carter at five, that it would definitely be
Speaker 3: one of those two, and that team one seems too
Speaker 3: milk toast. Now I'm just throwing the whole okay, because
Speaker 3: those because I even with you, I think Seahawks like big,
Speaker 3: physical freaks who task well, and to me, Richardson and
Speaker 3: Carter are that and and they've been productive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a break and do some Sangwich props. Alright,
Speaker 1: we're back. Uh, let's see here. Oh, it's a tradition
Speaker 1: that goes back literally a decade. Go get my Sangwige
Speaker 1: ass bag. This is when we challenge each other with
Speaker 1: predictions toward whether it's some Super Bowl or free agency
Speaker 1: or obviously the draft. Here, we're gonna get get it
Speaker 1: one right and get other people to disagree with you,
Speaker 1: because it makes it that much better if you can
Speaker 1: hit a prediction. That's the gold standard here. When you
Speaker 1: hit a prediction and then everyone else says, no, you're wrong,
Speaker 1: it's a double w Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: You've failed when you offer something that everyone's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we all think that's gonna happen too, and no one
Speaker 2: takes you up. You kind of failed in this exercise.
Speaker 1: And Greg, you and I have a real back and
Speaker 1: forth in the standings as a look, I've recently overtaken you,
Speaker 1: but it's very close. So I'm two seventeen and one
Speaker 1: ninety one all time stupid.
Speaker 3: We should really we should reset in the interest of
Speaker 3: Mark at some point, we should just like start.
Speaker 1: Over but he's not going to change his way of
Speaker 1: doing it. Nobody could start over the intest nothing. I'm
Speaker 1: not in first place.
Speaker 3: I'll give you you in the first ten years, and
Speaker 3: now we start the next ten years. Competition by the way,
Speaker 3: taking myself a grave for there it is, who was
Speaker 3: your first incredible who was your first guy like Ryan.
Speaker 1: Ryan Nick Fortier, who's been an incredible asset to us
Speaker 1: through the years. Go get my Lunch dot Org.
Speaker 3: Kind of got buried in a big spot in this episode.
Speaker 2: Sorry, was getting mentioned six or seven times.
Speaker 1: The we We always make sure to bring it up
Speaker 1: because he's been running that site for so long. It's
Speaker 1: also soundboard over there and all sorts of fun ATM history.
Speaker 1: And yes, Greg, I don't believe that we should reset
Speaker 1: the standings for whatever reason you were saying, because that
Speaker 1: the history is rich. As Colleen Wolfan's.
Speaker 3: Right, we wouldn't delete the website. I feel like Mark
Speaker 3: quietly bombed out. It wasn't quiet the first two years
Speaker 3: we did it, and ever since then, he's actually been
Speaker 3: the same. He's been about the same as all of us.
Speaker 2: So early on, I used to not take you guys
Speaker 2: up on stuff a lot, and so I because we're
Speaker 2: all so relatively terrible at it, h that you just
Speaker 2: take everything. But I'll throw some rockets into the distance.
Speaker 1: So do it anyway, even though you interrupted me Greg
Speaker 1: to ask for the reset. Here are the standings. I'm
Speaker 1: at fifty three point one percent, you're fifty two point
Speaker 1: seven at two thirteen and one ninety one. And Mark,
Speaker 1: I think you, like, if you could ever get back
Speaker 1: to five hundred twelve point six percent, I'm saying you're
Speaker 1: forty six point seven, one eight and two oh five.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, to Greg's points, get to five hundred.
Speaker 2: At this point, I probably got to nail about seventy
Speaker 2: two in a row, never happening you would have.
Speaker 1: I think you twenty five in a row. But that's
Speaker 1: not the way to look at it. You gotta start,
Speaker 1: You gotta kind of chip away at this and by
Speaker 1: about twenty forty eight or so, yeah, you might be
Speaker 1: knocking on the door.
Speaker 3: I mean, how ridiculous is it, though, that we've been
Speaker 3: doing this for over ten years. We have the exact
Speaker 3: number of losses the same Dan one ninety one, you
Speaker 3: have four more, and so this is like a race
Speaker 3: that is the equivalent of four like three baseball seasons,
Speaker 3: and we're still only two games apart.
Speaker 1: Like it's a week to chase for the agent.
Speaker 3: So we can sweep and I'm back in first.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what's coming up. You got a big weekend
Speaker 1: coming up here, so let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Say three is very rich here, let's definitely pitch things.
Speaker 2: Is three times a baseball season, three times its normal length.
Speaker 1: All right, nailed it. Let's see, all right, who wants
Speaker 1: to start? Somebody else? Start?
Speaker 3: I'll throw out one. How about let's go. Tyree Wilson
Speaker 3: is the first defensive player taken in the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three draft, just like the start with like a.
Speaker 1: A palate cleanser or a table cetter.
Speaker 3: Just like something with Tyre Wilson is a name with
Speaker 3: I don't think it's come up much, just tech edge
Speaker 3: in our programming. Not as productive over the course of
Speaker 3: his career, but just feels like the type of big
Speaker 3: swing that NFL teams like to make over a guy
Speaker 3: like Williamson who's maybe not quite the ceiling but has
Speaker 3: been very productive.
Speaker 2: I will take you. But I think that there's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a fly in the ointment. I've hearing
Speaker 2: a lot of reporting around this as well, just rumors,
Speaker 2: but Will Anderson is from Alabama. Demiko Ryans is from Alabama.
Speaker 2: They have talked about Will Anderson is not only like
Speaker 2: a once in a generation player, but a person and
Speaker 2: the kind of person that you build a new defense around.
Speaker 2: So I guess it would just be a little bit
Speaker 2: upstream for Dimigo Ryans to shun the Crimson Tide with
Speaker 2: an elite looking player for the other guy.
Speaker 1: But you never know.
Speaker 3: Same front office took a Derek Stingley over Sas Gardner.
Speaker 3: Least you're not saying like you got to write the
Speaker 3: book on Stingley, that's unfair to him. But well, I
Speaker 3: think if you're doing the redraft, Sace Gardner should be
Speaker 3: number one to the Jaguards right now.
Speaker 2: Let's see this front office. If it's Nick Cassario's even
Speaker 2: here two weeks from.
Speaker 1: Non uh yeah, if Trayvon Walker doesn't have a big
Speaker 1: year too, that's gonna be one of the to me anyway,
Speaker 1: in the years we've been doing this weird first overall picks. Ever,
Speaker 1: so I didn't feel like anybody was ever like over
Speaker 1: the moon about him through it the whole process, just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a lot upside, a lot of toolsy. He
Speaker 1: could be a big time player. And then you had
Speaker 1: these other guys that were very clearly ready to roll,
Speaker 1: and Detroit and the Jets, and I guess Stingley, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see about him.
Speaker 3: But well, as Daniel Jeremiah's explained it, he says he
Speaker 3: doesn't think any other team like twenty team the top
Speaker 3: twenty would have taken Walker first. That it was just
Speaker 3: the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: So weird. Yes, what is that? Yeah? Very strange, very strange.
Speaker 1: All right, anyway, let's go I will go with all right,
Speaker 1: so I don't think, well, let me start with something
Speaker 1: that's I don't know who was responsible.
Speaker 3: For these things, but wit, did you take me up
Speaker 3: on that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh sorry, yes I do. Okay, that's important for
Speaker 1: Nick forty eight to know. It's essential Nick. I don't
Speaker 1: know who how it works, although I'd love to know
Speaker 1: the mechanics behind it all. I'm guessing some type of
Speaker 1: front office figure sends an email to the social media
Speaker 1: department and instructs them to send out a tweet. With
Speaker 1: this message, you can get some inspirational, powerful backing music here.
Speaker 1: This from the Houston Texans sent at exactly six am today,
Speaker 1: so time stamped four for the start of draft week.
Speaker 1: Failure is not an option, It's a necessity.
Speaker 2: Every misstep imagine that was it, great failures of necessity?
Speaker 6: Yes, okay, every misstep is a lesson learned, every setback
Speaker 6: a chance to grow stronger, embrace the struggle, and become unstumbable.
Speaker 1: Well, they sent it out. Who was behind this, Casaria?
Speaker 2: I thought they got rid of the guy that would
Speaker 2: have sent something like that out. That's filled hilt very
Speaker 2: Jack Eastern, Yeah.
Speaker 1: With with just the word forward period anyway, So.
Speaker 3: I mean the font too, is very cam Newton.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: I do not think Nick Cassario is asking for this, No,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I the font was like ripped from like Taylor Swift's
Speaker 1: like reputation era. I'm not sure what's going on here,
Speaker 1: but anyway, I'm gonna try to piece it together. Okay. Hm.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a team that's looking to make a
Speaker 1: big statement this week, and I obviously they are. Everybody's
Speaker 1: not going to make a big stakement, but the Texans especially,
Speaker 1: It's the last two years have been lost years for
Speaker 1: the organization, dating back from really the day that Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson said, I'm I want out, and then everything that
Speaker 1: followed and two head coaches won and done, and just
Speaker 1: no sense that the organization's making any forward progress. This
Speaker 1: is the year where it's supposed to start over in
Speaker 1: a real tangible way. And that's why I don't think
Speaker 1: that the Texans have the guts to pass on a
Speaker 1: QBA too. And there's so much smoke now saying they're
Speaker 1: looking to get out of the pick or they're not
Speaker 1: a big fan of CJ. Stroud. So I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that they're gonna take CJ. Stroud because I do put
Speaker 1: some something more into this fact that maybe he's a
Speaker 1: round one dropper and we'll see if that works out
Speaker 1: or works against teams that pass on CJ. Strod. But
Speaker 1: I think they stay it too, and I think they
Speaker 1: take a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Okay, so both of those things have to happen. They
Speaker 3: can't trade back up to three and take a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to to muck it up.
Speaker 1: That would be that would suck if if they trade
Speaker 1: back one spot and take a QB but stay it
Speaker 1: to and go to quarter pay it to nice and simple.
Speaker 1: I could put in a bunch of caveats there compendiums
Speaker 1: if you will justin, but I will not. I'll just
Speaker 1: say they stay home and take the QB and they
Speaker 1: start over.
Speaker 2: I'll take you on it. A paiswell with Greg's. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like if they really wanted to make a
Speaker 2: big move and trade out of that place, then you
Speaker 2: just you completely deny and and don't allow anything to
Speaker 2: get out there that suggests you might go other than
Speaker 2: quarterback and have a quarterback bump down the board.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't kind of love what's coming out of Texas
Speaker 2: if that's what's happening with the Texans.
Speaker 1: But I with you.
Speaker 2: I do feel that the Demiko Ryans is a big
Speaker 2: part of this. I think Nicosio who opened his press
Speaker 2: conference last week weirdly saying like I'm not leaving after
Speaker 2: this draft, which was no one asked the question. It
Speaker 2: was just sort of said, point blank, okay. It's like
Speaker 2: there's clearly something going on here where I think Dimigo
Speaker 2: Ryans is running the show and I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: want to guy pick the guy that start to start
Speaker 2: his defense with.
Speaker 1: But I'll still take you. Do you think Demiko that
Speaker 1: linebacker blood? Do you think maybe Demiko is responsible for
Speaker 1: that quote.
Speaker 2: Well, it feels it feels very coach speak, doesn't it,
Speaker 2: or athlete coach speak.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a social employee who's like.
Speaker 2: Social media guy just went went nuts with that on
Speaker 2: their own and sent it out.
Speaker 1: Wild.
Speaker 3: I mean, if failure is in this, I mean the
Speaker 3: texted you've covered like you did it, you did it
Speaker 3: a few years ago. Home we do it that first verse, right,
Speaker 3: that was fine if you if every misstep there's a
Speaker 3: lesson learned, like you have learned the most amount of lessons.
Speaker 3: Let's let's win a ball game. That's a good one
Speaker 3: because I I kind of agree with you, and yet
Speaker 3: I just feel like I can't not take it out
Speaker 3: of principle, So I'm just gonna take it really solid.
Speaker 1: Stanza overall, I thought you got me. It's a good one,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, all right, pick us.
Speaker 2: This may be why I don't farewell in this contest.
Speaker 2: But this is something that I believe very strongly will
Speaker 2: happen by the start of the season. But I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna say it happens during the draft that by the
Speaker 2: time we get to the end of the draft. Mac
Speaker 2: Jones is no longer a New England Patriot, and I
Speaker 2: think that all along this could be a world where
Speaker 2: we keep trying to stick Tom Brady with the Raiders
Speaker 2: that I think that if you are Josh McDaniels and
Speaker 2: you worked really well with Mac Jones and you see
Speaker 2: real potential there that a Mac Jones Jimmy g scenario
Speaker 2: might work. All I'm saying, though, that's a potential landing
Speaker 2: spot is that Mac Jones will not be a Patriot
Speaker 2: by the final pick of the draft.
Speaker 1: Right into the final pick of the draft.
Speaker 3: You know, me and Mark are just Sharon, uh yeah, Sharon.
Speaker 2: Well the things the ability I love this down during
Speaker 2: the season we laughed it off, is like all this
Speaker 2: stuff that's happening is not enough to get rid of him.
Speaker 2: I think that what we've heard since the end of
Speaker 2: the regular season with New England and how that went,
Speaker 2: and you hear Robert Craft's words and what Mac Jones
Speaker 2: has had to say, and Bill Belichick really coolly on
Speaker 2: Mac Jones from where he was an off season ago.
Speaker 1: We talked about how much he grew and this little.
Speaker 2: Bailey zappy thing mixed in with the fact that I
Speaker 2: think they want to draft someone else and start over
Speaker 2: and give Bell Belichick another chance to get young at
Speaker 2: quarterback in one last yeah effort here. I think Mac
Speaker 2: Jones it just something doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1: He'll take you on it. I think, Uh, I don't
Speaker 1: like that Bailly z Appy. He keeps coming up in
Speaker 1: this as if he's a major factor in this. I don't.
Speaker 1: I think it's see enough of him to think that
Speaker 1: that he's a starter.
Speaker 2: I think it's used more like when he talks about
Speaker 2: when he's talking about Billy Zappi even during the season,
Speaker 2: was like he does everything he's asked. It's like it
Speaker 2: sounded like a Bill Belichick type of guy almost in
Speaker 2: a way to say like, Matt Jones isn't giving me
Speaker 2: this experience.
Speaker 1: Oh it was Tom Kern, who we trust with Patriots stuff,
Speaker 1: who did verify or second that report that Belichick was
Speaker 1: pissed that mac Jones went outside the organization during the
Speaker 1: season to try to get tips how to fix the
Speaker 1: the offense that Matt Patricia was in part running. I
Speaker 1: believe that I believe that Belichick was angry that he
Speaker 1: would do that, and that I think Belichick it's not
Speaker 1: Belichick's style for his quarterback to be and I think
Speaker 1: this is part of who mac Jones' personality wise, to
Speaker 1: be very adamant and vocal in showing that he was
Speaker 1: unhappy during games last season. I think that's a bad
Speaker 1: look for a player when you're in Belichick's building. That said,
Speaker 1: the owner is continuously speaking positively of mac Jones still,
Speaker 1: and I think right now where the team sits, it's
Speaker 1: the owner who has the upper hand. The owner always
Speaker 1: has the upper hand, let's face it, but especially now,
Speaker 1: I think there's a little of a power struggle there.
Speaker 1: And I think mac Jones getting moved is a Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick win if this would happen, And I don't think
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's is winning anything internally. This offen. I'll take
Speaker 1: you on it, all right.
Speaker 2: But what if Casario, who knows Belichick so well, Like,
Speaker 2: what if there's a world where the this is a
Speaker 2: typical draft stuff for New England, but they're just going
Speaker 2: for it. They're gonna get up into that top three
Speaker 2: or four and get a different quarterback, then Mac Jones
Speaker 2: is old news in New England and you move them
Speaker 2: for whatever you can get.
Speaker 3: Well, Houston would be as likely a place to put
Speaker 3: him as any I can't find the team that's gonna
Speaker 3: go for him though, and that that would be a
Speaker 3: tough sell I think for the Texans and their fans
Speaker 3: that like, no way it came up.
Speaker 1: With this as your own.
Speaker 2: We didn't draft two, Yeah, so someone you must have
Speaker 2: someone in mind that they would.
Speaker 3: I don't know who I'm I think it's like less
Speaker 3: than fifty to fifty. So I'll take you up on it,
Speaker 3: but I was just gonna throw it out because it's
Speaker 3: a it's a fun one. I don't I just don't
Speaker 3: know who that team is. Maybe it's the Ravens, like
Speaker 3: that doesn't really make sense to me. I think they're
Speaker 3: pretty in on this is one more year with with
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. So you just kind of go through the
Speaker 3: list and you don't see like a logical landing spot
Speaker 3: for mac Jones.
Speaker 1: Uh. But I'll mark Allons takes on a little water though.
Speaker 2: You going, but he literally came I had it with
Speaker 2: what was gonna be one of my maybe I had
Speaker 2: I had some options.
Speaker 3: I've just got to take you up on it because
Speaker 3: it just seems like that's.
Speaker 1: Sort of like a tepid high five though. That's like that.
Speaker 3: Which is weird in itself, is kind of clammy, Like
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: That's that's not what I wanted to hear. All right,
Speaker 1: you got another one.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go say all four of the
Speaker 3: top quarterbacks I'm not including Hendon Hooker here, just just
Speaker 3: to be as clear as possible, go in the top ten.
Speaker 3: So after all this talk, someone's gonna fallow blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But now none of it happens. This is very rare
Speaker 3: that four quarterbacks go that high. In general, we think
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are gonna go like a little higher than they
Speaker 3: end up doing. Hence, like mac Jones slipped to fifteen,
Speaker 3: a lot of times that third or fourth guy falls
Speaker 3: a little further than you expect. It happened to justin
Speaker 3: fields too. But I say it doesn't happen this time.
Speaker 3: There's too many options in the top ten or I
Speaker 3: think you could even trade to about ten. And so
Speaker 3: I say all four quarterbacks go in the top ten.
Speaker 3: It'll be decided nice and early on our live stream
Speaker 3: that everyone needs to watch on you.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can get a former NFL quarterback in our
Speaker 1: We're going to be not in this room, but in
Speaker 1: a different area of NFL Media for our live stream.
Speaker 1: Our Round one live stream a pm Eastern five pm Pacific,
Speaker 1: all thirty one picks of the first round. We will
Speaker 1: be just hanging around chopping it up, dudes, being bros,
Speaker 1: with some special surprises along the way.
Speaker 2: But you're seting, you're suggesting maybe we would snag an
Speaker 2: ex NFL quarterback to come.
Speaker 1: Talk with us, especially if four qbs enter our league
Speaker 1: and ten picks to start things off, Like, how could
Speaker 1: you say it's a boring draft if that's happening, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, anyway, So you're saying young obviously, Stroud, Richardson and.
Speaker 3: In the top ten, top ten, I'll take you.
Speaker 2: I think it's very possible though, because I think Tennessee
Speaker 2: would be a real candidate to move up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, i'll take you.
Speaker 3: Let's do some breaking news. This is not your average
Speaker 3: everyday breaking news. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1: Justin Gray, thank you on that Nick fourt here.
Speaker 3: Ian Rappaport says, it's happened. It's over. Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 3: going to the New York Jets. What the Jets?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Rogers pick number fifteen and a fifth round pick, so
Speaker 3: they're only moving down two in the first round, the
Speaker 3: Packers get number thirteen. They move up two picks. They
Speaker 3: get a twenty twenty three this year second round pick,
Speaker 3: that's number forty two, a sixth round pick, and a
Speaker 3: conditional second next year that becomes a first if Rogers
Speaker 3: plays sixty five percent of the plays, which is pretty
Speaker 3: darn likely to happen. So the Packers get their to firsts.
Speaker 3: For Aaron Rodgers, it's.
Speaker 1: Happened, Dan, Thank god, I could, I mean, thank god?
Speaker 2: This is that, this happened. This is your birthday present.
Speaker 2: It was your birthday, ye it was. It was my
Speaker 2: birthday yesterday.
Speaker 1: And this was something that has been dragging out for
Speaker 1: god well over a month at this point, ever since
Speaker 1: the Pat mcavie episode. Let's just go through this again.
Speaker 1: So it's the deal includes a second rounder this year,
Speaker 1: So the Jets had back to back second round picks.
Speaker 1: I believe it's forty one and forty two.
Speaker 3: Packers get the second one, and I.
Speaker 1: Think Packers are picking forty five also, So now the
Speaker 1: Packers pick forty two and forty five the Jets. So
Speaker 1: the Jets keep their first round pick, but they swap it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've swapped it.
Speaker 3: So they're going to move back two spots, which is
Speaker 3: something no one really brought up. Now it seems obvious
Speaker 3: that that's like one little extra thing the Packers got it.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of an upset that they can get
Speaker 2: another first next year based off it seemed like this
Speaker 2: was heading towards like who would ever give the Packers
Speaker 2: that at this point for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Well they still so they still have their first round
Speaker 1: pick this year. They just moved back two spots, right, yes,
Speaker 1: and they can get the first rounder if Rogers hits
Speaker 1: that playing time bump in twenty four, which doesn't, that's
Speaker 1: a disaster. It well, it depends on what happens this
Speaker 1: year obviously. I mean it's everything is kind of built
Speaker 1: to me up to this being now a team that
Speaker 1: can make a run with Rogers a QB, which is
Speaker 1: I'm on record obviously, so you have to get hurt.
Speaker 3: It's it's the sixty five percent of plaze this season,
Speaker 3: so this year as long as he's disaster if he doesn't.
Speaker 1: And I guess okay, yes, okay, I thought it was
Speaker 1: next year. Okay, now it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Okay, but when you say that, like the idea that
Speaker 2: could trigger a first next year from the Jets is
Speaker 2: more than what people had been verbalizing in recent weeks,
Speaker 2: because it sounded like Joe Douglas is not gonna that's
Speaker 2: what they were budging on.
Speaker 1: They're not going to give that up.
Speaker 3: It's a little more than I expected the Jets to
Speaker 3: have to give up. I just thought the conditions would
Speaker 3: have been less likely. I thought it was gonna be like,
Speaker 3: if he retires, you don't get the first. If he's
Speaker 3: on the team into twenty twenty four, then then it's
Speaker 3: a first. But that's it sort of splitting hairs. I
Speaker 3: think it's a great deal for Green Bay ultimately, that
Speaker 3: you get a second and a first, you get the
Speaker 3: two spots is nice. I think that's really good because
Speaker 3: because for them, I just feel like it really was time.
Speaker 3: I know it's a downgrade to go from Rogers to
Speaker 3: Jordan Love, but I think all things considered, they have
Speaker 3: to be happy with how they're kind of extricating themselves
Speaker 3: from this. It really wasn't that mess, and they get
Speaker 3: a very fair return for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if I had my choice in this, I
Speaker 1: would want that to be a higher bar to clear
Speaker 1: than sixty five percent of the snaps. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, he's a Jet, and now they go into
Speaker 1: this season, one of the more important seasons in the
Speaker 1: history of the organization, and they're going to have Rogers,
Speaker 1: who I think based on his track record, the fact
Speaker 1: that yes he's entering his age thirty nine season, but
Speaker 1: for all the things I've talked about before, I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be very good this year. I think
Speaker 1: this team is obviously going to be vastly improved if
Speaker 1: he stays healthy on offense, and then I trust solid
Speaker 1: the defense if they're not even if they're not as
Speaker 1: good as last year, to be a strong defense, and
Speaker 1: you put it all together, and I think they are
Speaker 1: now firmly in the mix now in the AOC, and
Speaker 1: I'm just so I'm so excited that the worst case scenario,
Speaker 1: which was this dragging through the summer, this becoming a
Speaker 1: situation where maybe another team does sneak into the negotiations
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the Jets are running out
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson in training camp. All that stuff is out
Speaker 1: the window now and you just can you can look
Speaker 1: forward at a bright horizon in terms of hope in
Speaker 1: the Metal Lands. I'm really excited about this.
Speaker 2: I almost hope that they are giving up a first
Speaker 2: next year because it tells you things went right and
Speaker 2: there is a variance here, because you what version of
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers do you get?
Speaker 1: I trust that you're going to get a good one.
Speaker 2: And their offense is pretty much set to go, and
Speaker 2: there were these other worlds, parallel universes where New York
Speaker 2: failed to get Rogers and you are stuck with one
Speaker 2: of the worst chapters in Jets history.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a backup play, right, they would all
Speaker 1: over their face.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what I love about Joe Douglas though,
Speaker 2: because he has to be a huge reason why this happened,
Speaker 2: because when you want to do something in life, you
Speaker 2: cut all their options out, you just go for it.
Speaker 1: And they made it happen.
Speaker 2: And the Jets, like the Jets fan base, has never
Speaker 2: been in this situation if you are a certain age,
Speaker 2: if you're your age.
Speaker 3: The photoshops of Rogers in a Jets uniform, it just
Speaker 3: looks wild to me.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen so many now over the
Speaker 1: last six weeks, and I'm I'm already used to it.
Speaker 1: As weird as that as that seems the next question,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, does he does Jo Namath give
Speaker 1: up his number twelve? These are all fun kind of
Speaker 1: team things, and I will not I have to say it.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're gonna now say it's sixty five
Speaker 1: percent of snaps. Okay, So what's that like? If he
Speaker 1: stays healthy and he.
Speaker 3: Basically if he plays twelve or thirteen, if.
Speaker 1: It's if it's week twelve and they're a huge bust
Speaker 1: and it's a terrible season, would I put it past
Speaker 1: the organization to put him on the bench. Yeah, check
Speaker 1: you later. I mean if he doesn't play well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but in that scenario, everyone's fired.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying if they I'm just saying what
Speaker 1: people making the decisions.
Speaker 3: I like, only Woody Dotson could make that decision, and
Speaker 3: it would have to because it went so spectacular, right.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm not saying this on behalf of
Speaker 1: anyone else in the building, as like a Jet fan
Speaker 1: like saying like how does this? What are the different
Speaker 1: outcomes of this? Would they potentially, if things really were
Speaker 1: off the rails, go down that way to save the
Speaker 1: first round pick.
Speaker 3: Now, they'd have to be three and seven. That's just
Speaker 3: the fatalist.
Speaker 1: They're getting fired anyways, so it's that's what I mean.
Speaker 3: What I mean is like Woody Johnson is firing everyone
Speaker 3: and insisting on that, and for them to be that
Speaker 3: bad would be hard to imagine. They have to be
Speaker 3: three and seven.
Speaker 1: I just have to say it and listen, Gregy, like
Speaker 1: I'm a fatalist at times as a Jets fan, as
Speaker 1: all Jets fans are, you have to say, Okay, how
Speaker 1: does what's the worst case scenario? Here? There it is,
Speaker 1: and then they would still have some recourse if they
Speaker 1: didn't want to give up a first round pick that said, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, if they were three and seven, that's
Speaker 1: a high first round pick potentially, yeah, going, And then
Speaker 1: you know, there's all sorts of things. But I'm not
Speaker 1: even get all that energy. That is just stuff they
Speaker 1: needed to be brought up for a second. And but
Speaker 1: I'm very happy. I wish I could talk to my dad.
Speaker 1: My dad is in Budapest now on a look at him,
Speaker 1: on a trip with deb and my my uncle and
Speaker 1: my aunt. I don't know when he's going to get
Speaker 1: this news. It's not like my sixty nine year old
Speaker 1: father is uh, you know, all over social media. I
Speaker 1: don't know when he'll find out. He might not find
Speaker 1: out for days. Wow, Oh he'll find out. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you can't text him, it's should I what's app him?
Speaker 4: I have your dad's commenting on it on Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: right now if you let's hear it, sure live and exclusive.
Speaker 7: My feeling when Aaron Rodgers is that you know, when
Speaker 7: things are going good, you know he's missed a good guy. Well,
Speaker 7: when things are not going so good, he is certainly
Speaker 7: not the same guy that you see on the sidelines
Speaker 7: that's frowning at people and looking looking the other way, the.
Speaker 1: Old man that lays blame on others, that's right.
Speaker 7: And also the the way he handled the coach last year, uh,
Speaker 7: not listening to the play calls McCarthy and Mike McCarthy
Speaker 7: and treating him terribly shows me that I just don't
Speaker 7: think he's the kind of man that you know that
Speaker 7: everyone talks about.
Speaker 1: Hellos, did you guys have that one in the chamber?
Speaker 3: I randomly was looking for something completely different this morning.
Speaker 3: It was as if it was in the start I
Speaker 3: was looking for him saying that Matt Lafore, Mike Lafloor
Speaker 3: I can't. I mean, I lose the Bearded boy was
Speaker 3: the bearded Little Boys. I went back to that episode
Speaker 3: and listened on the way in and that wasn't in
Speaker 3: the show, but that little clip was, and I said,
Speaker 3: let's clip that for whenever the news. Let's also wish
Speaker 3: Dan a happy birthday. We got this done during the show.
Speaker 1: This was the.
Speaker 3: President that we got for Dan Hansas that we've been worried.
Speaker 3: This news is all off season and here this is
Speaker 3: very nice.
Speaker 1: And yeah, my dad is not of Aaron Rodgers fans,
Speaker 1: never has, so I am curious what his thoughts are.
Speaker 1: But you know what, you know what, you know what,
Speaker 1: Keith's not a fan of Zach Wilson like all Jets fans.
Speaker 2: So I think if you're Keith, are your anyone who
Speaker 2: was a little bit miffed with the Aaron Rodgers experience,
Speaker 2: you gotta just like it's part of part of the weight.
Speaker 1: That's fine. And happy birthday?
Speaker 3: Did how was your birthday? You do anything fun? Spend
Speaker 3: it with the fam, send it with them. Everything appeared
Speaker 3: if you didn't spend it watching what yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, watching sports? You know a baseball practice was in
Speaker 1: the mix?
Speaker 3: Uh, your knicks are giving you a present.
Speaker 1: The Knicks given me a gift. Do you feel tangibly older?
Speaker 1: I guess I mean no, I wouldn't say I feel
Speaker 1: tangibly older right now. In fact, I feel a little
Speaker 1: younger right now. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback of
Speaker 1: the Jets. That's a big relief. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: even take this into the draft.
Speaker 3: So that's huge, you know.
Speaker 1: And we'll say if it works out, and I know
Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation and all this will blow
Speaker 1: up in their face. I hear it. It's certainly possible,
Speaker 1: but back off. Let let judge fans enjoy this moment
Speaker 1: and and hope for the Jets fan base this guy
Speaker 1: can still play the guitar. Sppsif be Ken look out.
Speaker 3: You had to make a move. That was to try
Speaker 3: to take advantage of the roster they have right now,
Speaker 3: because you don't know how long it's going to stay together.
Speaker 3: And to that point, never didn't trade Corey Davis kind
Speaker 3: of thought he was going to be in this trade.
Speaker 3: We'll see maybe he's he's not on the roster, but
Speaker 3: this puts sort of a window on them with Rogers
Speaker 3: of like, I mean, this puts a window with Rogers
Speaker 3: obviously for the next couple of years. But giving away
Speaker 3: this sort of draft, these sort of draft assets, you know,
Speaker 3: it just makes it more about right now and to
Speaker 3: the to the Packers point, Like Goody's handled this all well,
Speaker 3: but like now is the hard part. If you want
Speaker 3: to be Ted Thompson, you got to hit these picks.
Speaker 3: They didn't do anything in free agency this year, and
Speaker 3: it puts a lot of pressure that they got to
Speaker 3: start hitting with these picks. So they have pick thirteen,
Speaker 3: they have an extra second, and they'll have the pick
Speaker 3: next year. But like, he needs to start nailing this
Speaker 3: or else he's gonna be the guy that traded away
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and didn't make it happen.
Speaker 1: I wonder if what the domino effect is in the
Speaker 1: AFC East, as you know, does this cause the Patriots
Speaker 1: to be think to them, although we all kind of
Speaker 1: expected this to be the outcome and now officially appears
Speaker 1: to be the case, do they feel good about going
Speaker 1: into a season playing in a division that has Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers and Josh Allen in it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've just told you they're gonna make a
Speaker 2: massive move at quarterback. I have a Sandwich prompt potentially
Speaker 2: Tom Brady in it that.
Speaker 1: Ties into this.
Speaker 2: You'll always have your chance. I did not know this
Speaker 2: was going to happen, obviously, but I think that the
Speaker 2: Packers will draft a combination of at least after all
Speaker 2: they did to Aaron Rodgers with a draft and no
Speaker 2: freatency of at least four wide receivers and tight ends
Speaker 2: to make Jordan Love to.
Speaker 1: Send them up for success.
Speaker 3: Four.
Speaker 2: I mean, this doesn't happen that often, by the way,
Speaker 2: and they have a couple of wide receivers they like
Speaker 2: that are young, but tight end I could see it,
Speaker 2: and I think you go with a combination of four
Speaker 2: of them so that you can tell everyone we're going
Speaker 2: to do right by Jordan Love versus leaving them out
Speaker 2: at sea.
Speaker 1: Four is a lot. You know.
Speaker 3: The Packers used to do that with Ted time, since
Speaker 3: that would be another callback where they would take two
Speaker 3: or three at the same position, especially receiver, in the
Speaker 3: same draft. Four is a lot. I'll have to uh,
Speaker 3: I'll have to take.
Speaker 1: You on that. Yeah, I'll take you on that. For sure.
Speaker 3: They do have four.
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot. Three I would be on
Speaker 1: the fence four fields like.
Speaker 3: They have four to seventh round picks. They have two fifths,
Speaker 3: and so it counts if he's oh.
Speaker 1: How many picks do they have overall?
Speaker 3: Uh, that's interesting, two, three, four or five? Ten?
Speaker 1: I think so it doesn't matter like where it is
Speaker 1: in the draft.
Speaker 2: Well take I'll myself out of winning it if I do. No,
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable staying right there. I think that's like that
Speaker 2: that's a big investment because you already have a couple
Speaker 2: of young leaders.
Speaker 3: Well, they have twelve picks. That's a lot of picks.
Speaker 3: You would think they're going to take some tries at
Speaker 3: I'm not going to take you. I think the over
Speaker 3: under probably would be about three, so it's a little
Speaker 3: over that, so I'm going to take it.
Speaker 1: I will pass on this one. Actually cool just because
Speaker 1: there's so many picks, like you're gonna get take guys
Speaker 1: it like late in the draft that are special teams
Speaker 1: type of guys that are wide.
Speaker 3: Receivers, especially their team where who don't have any wide receivers.
Speaker 3: I think they'll take a tight I would. I would.
Speaker 3: I won't do this because it's too similar, but I
Speaker 3: would put a sandwich on one of their first three picks.
Speaker 3: It's too boring would be a tight end, Like I
Speaker 3: just almost they I just feel like in this.
Speaker 1: That feels like a home run.
Speaker 3: I'm a home run.
Speaker 2: I'm more saying that it's the it's a diametrically opposed
Speaker 2: to what they just did to Aaron Rodgers three years
Speaker 2: in a row.
Speaker 3: But if they if they didn't take one in the
Speaker 3: first round, it would be.
Speaker 1: Say So, what I'm saying is what's tricky about this
Speaker 1: prop I think mark is that it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: what if I make it five? Well, no, I'm saying
Speaker 1: like if if you no, I'm just saying, if you're saying,
Speaker 1: this is going to be kind of a statement draft
Speaker 1: from them, if it was like they're taking it in
Speaker 1: the first three rounds two to three players, I just
Speaker 1: feel like, but if you're gonna say five, I'll take you.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not playing this. You're perfectly welcome to not
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Okay, yeah you said it, though you
Speaker 1: said five.
Speaker 2: It's going through a verbal machination with myself, but I
Speaker 2: know it said you're just sweetening the pocket.
Speaker 3: Said their first pick was the receiver or a tight end,
Speaker 3: which I actually think it will What about.
Speaker 2: Two of the first three. I think it will be
Speaker 2: a tight end. I don't think anyone's taking that either
Speaker 2: because two of the first four.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not revising it. Okay, then I won't take it
Speaker 2: on any level.
Speaker 1: So because I just the spirit of it is that
Speaker 1: they're going to be aggressive. It is the spirit of draft. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that's the spirit of it. But you could
Speaker 1: lose the wager in the back end of the draft
Speaker 1: when it's not really about building up weapons. You don't care,
Speaker 1: got it? All? Right? Uh? This one real quick? Because
Speaker 1: I don't care about anything else right now. The Titans
Speaker 1: we mentioned it. I believe between now and in the
Speaker 1: next fortnight two weeks, Tan Hill and Henry will both
Speaker 1: be moved in trades. Oh, triggering the full on rebuild.
Speaker 1: That makes too much sense in my mind, and it's
Speaker 1: been speculated on endlessly. I think there's obviously they're holding
Speaker 1: their car the cards close to the vest, but I
Speaker 1: just think that's you know, teams also or trying to
Speaker 1: figure out their draft boards. And if say one of
Speaker 1: these teams that really wants a running back, they don't
Speaker 1: get it, they're gonna call up the Titans back. What
Speaker 1: can we give you one of these day two picks
Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry and then a team that loses out
Speaker 1: on the q qb roulette here.
Speaker 3: So that's why you're making it two weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm I'm kind of just becus. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure it's basically capturing the spirit of it,
Speaker 1: which is teams come out of the draft not maybe
Speaker 1: getting what they want or they they want to be
Speaker 1: able to have a fuller look at where their roster's at.
Speaker 1: But I think both of them will be gone. I
Speaker 1: think probably by Saturday. It could happen in the prediction,
Speaker 1: but that's I don't want to hold myself to that.
Speaker 1: That's a little tight.
Speaker 3: How about next Tuesday, because aren't we gonna be going
Speaker 3: aren't you gonna be annoyed? We're gonna go over the
Speaker 3: draft props.
Speaker 1: In this, all right? So for that reason, I will
Speaker 1: modify it. How About one of the two will be
Speaker 1: moved before Saturday night?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take you on that.
Speaker 1: I will too. I think they're open to either.
Speaker 2: There was the false report that Derrick Henry was going
Speaker 2: into the Eagles that didn't pan out, But I mean
Speaker 2: he just fits as a if you're a super Bowl
Speaker 2: Window team, and I keep thinking of Buffalo. It's like,
Speaker 2: what is the price that's too high to go get
Speaker 2: Derek Henry. You're not gonna have to give a first
Speaker 2: why not Adam to your roster? And you like, but
Speaker 2: if you go get a running back in the draft,
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry becomes a starter.
Speaker 3: I don't quite see it. I think Tannehill's a little
Speaker 3: more likely, or is more likely. I think Dalvin Cook
Speaker 3: is a guy that could get traded. I think the
Speaker 3: Judy stuff could still happen. Buddha Baker, maybe you mentioned
Speaker 3: mac Jones. Trey Lance seems unlikely. I can't imagine Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3: But that's me personally.
Speaker 1: Anybody else have one.
Speaker 3: I do have a trade one, and this, I guess
Speaker 3: would be my about just because it's so specific. So
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say the draft ends with DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 3: in Buffalo as the next member of the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: Let's just get specific, which is always trouble.
Speaker 1: I like that. I'm having trouble focusing right now. I'm
Speaker 1: reading a lot of the I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it is ridiculous. It's one of the biggest trades
Speaker 3: in the history of the NFL. He's a how many
Speaker 3: times is it one the four times? Whether maybe four times?
Speaker 3: You just get traded to the Jets.
Speaker 1: I'm struggling right now with this. Boy.
Speaker 2: Boy, that's fine, we could we could just curtail this,
Speaker 2: but Greg, I, for the sake of the extras, I'll
Speaker 2: take you.
Speaker 1: It does leave.
Speaker 2: Even if you have a post June one designation, the
Speaker 2: Cardinals are stuck with twenty million in dead money per
Speaker 2: over the cap, and if it's pre June one, I
Speaker 2: mean it's thirty one million. So it's not like I
Speaker 2: don't know what the Cardinals get out of this unless
Speaker 2: they love the pick.
Speaker 3: Maybe they could restructure the contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you'd have to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're hitting me with facts and everything. Does this
Speaker 3: does seem like an anti climax a little bit after
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was just traded. You're right, Dan, I apologize.
Speaker 1: I'm being upfront with you about this. It's okay.
Speaker 3: I think though, I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Don't even I've kind of said what I how I
Speaker 1: feel about it that it's like they gave up that
Speaker 1: that first round pick. I wish they would have been
Speaker 1: able to push back a little further on that. But
Speaker 1: I think part of that is like everybody was like
Speaker 1: it was leverage Gate between the Jets and Packers and
Speaker 1: who had the leverage. I think ultimately the Jets were
Speaker 1: the more they were they were the ones on the
Speaker 1: defense because they didn't have a plan B and I
Speaker 1: think they they also wanted to have the you know,
Speaker 1: they wanted to have a clean slate. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would like to see Aaron Rodgers, for instance, at
Speaker 1: voluntary camp, which he hasn't been doing with the Packers
Speaker 1: for years, and I won't hold my breath for the
Speaker 1: same reasons. My dad's not a huge fan of Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: but like I want to see him all in and
Speaker 1: get that vibe. I want him at camp. I want
Speaker 1: people flying in Malibu to work out with him. I
Speaker 1: want to if I'm a Jet fan now, I want
Speaker 1: to see him have that eye of the tiger and
Speaker 1: show want to stick it to the Packers a little
Speaker 1: bit and have a big year for a franchise that
Speaker 1: hasn't had a quarterback in far too long. So they're
Speaker 1: gonna give up that first round pick next year. I
Speaker 1: can deal with that. Moving back a little bit in
Speaker 1: the first round this year. I think they're still gonna
Speaker 1: get one of those offensive linemen, which is a lock.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'll do a related one. My last
Speaker 1: one is that they will take an offensive lineman. I
Speaker 1: was thinking that maybe they would go and try to
Speaker 1: trade up and get Scarnsky there hm, but they don't.
Speaker 1: Now they're dealing with a little bit of a deficit
Speaker 1: with some of the draft capital. So that would be
Speaker 1: my second one that they'll.
Speaker 3: Take in fifteen. I think you can get a good tackle.
Speaker 4: I had them taking Scaronsky at thirteen. Now my mock
Speaker 4: draft's all screwed up because they're moving to fifteen. They
Speaker 4: got to redo this whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's gonna They're gonna get Broderick Jones out of Georgia.
Speaker 1: Now that's my that's my onion hanger on.
Speaker 2: You're saying that the second you're going to the exact guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: I'll take exact guy, wouldn't take I think they're definitely
Speaker 2: going lineman. I will say I totally agree with you
Speaker 2: about the Aaron Rodgers off like the season workout stuff,
Speaker 2: because for some of that preaches self awareness at an
Speaker 2: endless levels and heights. It would be self aware to
Speaker 2: with the New York media, get off on a good foot,
Speaker 2: and also just with your own teammates, because I think
Speaker 2: that affected the Packers last year.
Speaker 3: How about Aaron Rodgers versus pretty tough Bill's defense. You
Speaker 3: got Bill Belichick, you got a Dolphins defense. It's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Adding Jalen Ramsey. It's it's a challenge that division is
Speaker 3: going to have so many primetime games this year, and
Speaker 3: the Jets will be in a lot of them. Stop
Speaker 3: delaying the schedule released. We wanted out on the normal weekend.
Speaker 3: We know where Rodgers is.
Speaker 1: Well, weren't they waiting for this?
Speaker 3: Well, I've heard whispers that the.
Speaker 1: League will see putting a little pressure on the dealer.
Speaker 2: I know if you suddenly put Zach, if you do
Speaker 2: the schedule first, and you know Zach Wilson in five
Speaker 2: primetime games, that's a.
Speaker 3: Probably no whispers on that, But if there was, if
Speaker 3: Lamari and Aaron Rodgers was still uncertain that they didn't
Speaker 3: really want to start tending that schedule out until they
Speaker 3: knew we're the best primetime games. But you think you
Speaker 3: got to assume Lamar's in Baltimore at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, we need one more an onion hanger from
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. All right, this has happened before.
Speaker 2: I'm really looking at to two options that I have
Speaker 2: here though. Okay, you know how the we have an
Speaker 2: absolute waterfall of absurdity on day two in the especially
Speaker 2: long Day three where like they had like a zoo
Speaker 2: animal announcing like the cults pick the one time. Yes,
Speaker 2: this and I have no information on this, but I
Speaker 2: think because we're at this point in our world where
Speaker 2: a this is tech based, not may be the place
Speaker 2: where Tom tom Brady spoke, but a non human slash
Speaker 2: non animal will make a Day two or Day three
Speaker 2: pick for one team.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking like.
Speaker 2: Like a holographic image of like Vince Lombardi does it
Speaker 2: for the packers or something, but something they've never done before,
Speaker 2: where like a true non sentient being announces the pick,
Speaker 2: maybe even live in Kansas City, if not at some
Speaker 2: sort of other local scenario.
Speaker 3: A non human non animal. So they've already done zoo
Speaker 3: animals thing with the chimp making the pickpened. I can't
Speaker 3: do that, No, I guess, I guess I gotta take
Speaker 3: you on that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that crazy if you think about it,
Speaker 1: did you say a non like Simeon is that what
Speaker 1: it was?
Speaker 2: Like a non human has to be any any real
Speaker 2: huge or but I'm thinking like a holographic image of
Speaker 2: someone out from Davis. Yeah, exactly like Al Davis like
Speaker 2: rolls up in a holographic controversial deep into like jets.
Speaker 1: I have a letter right now going on. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of texts I replying to. Yes, I will take
Speaker 1: you on that, okay, just because I think some there
Speaker 1: would be some pushback about putting a dead man on
Speaker 1: stage or whatever. It may not be.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's definitely an NFL figure. It could
Speaker 2: be some George Washington, if you will. Sure if someone
Speaker 2: went would be an odd road. But like the commanders
Speaker 2: could do that, I guess, well there's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of commanders. Yeah, in the Pentagon.
Speaker 2: We need to end this. I think we need to
Speaker 2: let dan go be free in society, just like frolic out.
Speaker 2: Is it going to dance around? So what does the
Speaker 2: next three hours look like for you? What's going to
Speaker 2: happen to day?
Speaker 1: You know, I just turned forty three. There are limits
Speaker 1: to this, you know, like when when Brett Favre was
Speaker 1: traded and that would be the obviously the natural connection.
Speaker 1: Another team that was all in. After that happened, I
Speaker 1: happened to be in a bar in Austin, Texas when
Speaker 1: the trade went down late at night hookham horns and
Speaker 1: got hammered and was super excited. Now I have responsibilities.
Speaker 1: I got to pick up the kids from school. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: I just imagin he's got stuff to do.
Speaker 3: Tammy Taylor, you know Tammy Taylor in the beginning of
Speaker 3: Friday light like this all through the fields.
Speaker 1: There will be a little bit of that. I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a Tito's tonight once the kids.
Speaker 2: You just get the kids home safe and then you can.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit it's bittersweet that I won't be
Speaker 1: able to confer with Keith on this until he returns
Speaker 1: from Budapest and other territories in Europe.
Speaker 3: But he didn't do the thing where you just put
Speaker 3: the cell phone on while you're gone. No, no, okay, no,
Speaker 3: my dad right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he keeps it pretty pretty tight ship with the tech.
Speaker 2: You know, it's an international sport. I'm going to learn
Speaker 2: about it somewhere. I think he's gonna hear about it,
Speaker 2: all right, So there you go. Interesting and those are
Speaker 2: the props, good ones. Check out Nick four Tier at
Speaker 2: go get my lunch dot Org. Oh wait a second
Speaker 2: before we say goodbye. It is also a tradition before
Speaker 2: a producer gets too upset. I'm sorry, just a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff's going on right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we always have the producer offer up a prop
Speaker 1: of their own before we say goodbye. Justin Graver, Yeah,
Speaker 1: your draft prop. I thought I was off the hook
Speaker 1: there for a sec. But okay, so you don't have
Speaker 1: to do it, but I'll throw one out there.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 4: My draft prop is the top seven picks go off
Speaker 4: in the current order as they stand. No Draft day
Speaker 4: trades in the top sex.
Speaker 1: I love it, take you and I love it. I
Speaker 1: think it's a great one. The old Gettleman, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take you that usually. Yeah, somebody's gonna make a move. Somebody.
Speaker 3: Why is up? The old Gettleman. He didn't like trades.
Speaker 1: Oh, Dave Getman hated trading. Oh that's right, too complex.
Speaker 3: So he sat there at six and took Daniel Jones
Speaker 3: famously in hindsight, did you got Daniel Jones?
Speaker 1: His quarterback? And Dexter Lawrence? Reasonable but not a GM app?
Speaker 1: You never did it once? Like famously he never traded back.
Speaker 3: I guess I'll take you on that. But this is
Speaker 3: not the onion hanger. It sounds like it is, because
Speaker 3: I think if you went and looked over the last
Speaker 3: X amount of years, at least going into draft day,
Speaker 3: because obviously there's already been one Tree draft one, but
Speaker 3: during the draft, I would say as many, if not more,
Speaker 3: drafts don't have a trade that high.
Speaker 4: Right, like reporting about Arizona taking calls.
Speaker 3: Point, wait, if the draft happen, If the trade happens
Speaker 3: between now and Thursday, though, you lose your prop. Right
Speaker 3: If the Cardinals traded on Wednesday, you've.
Speaker 2: Got trade action. It's it stays put as of Thursday
Speaker 2: at five pm, Western.
Speaker 4: Agreed any trade between clun That would be fun to
Speaker 4: be the first producer to lose this prop before the
Speaker 4: draft even starts, right.
Speaker 1: The producers are not good at this. So you're trying to, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, change history if you will, and you have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with past failures in that chair, right,
Speaker 1: So I think that's the way you're looking at it, right.
Speaker 4: Well, the way I'm looking at is, as your guys, producer,
Speaker 4: my job is to make you all look great. So
Speaker 4: if that means getting my draft prop wrong, then I'm
Speaker 4: all for it.
Speaker 2: Except that's not what you're that's not your attitude, and
Speaker 2: you're trying to kneecap one of Yes our co hosts here.
Speaker 1: On a daily basis.
Speaker 3: In a big spot. I think we're going to drop
Speaker 3: that one overnight on Wednesday, right, the Big Mock Draft Spectacular.
Speaker 1: Oh what a showdown it is? All right, that's it. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: we will be back on yes Wednesday with the Huge
Speaker 1: mock Draft and then Thursday it all begins. My goodness,
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