1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast featuring the old Seusser, the 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: new Old Blue Eyes, Talk Vote, and Daddy Ridge. That's 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: about right from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's Draft week. Everybody, Dan hanss and all 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: those other names here along with Greg Rosenthal and Mark 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Sessler And here we go. Mark you ready for this? 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Maybe one general manager? This via Albert Breer. This just 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: to get you pumped up. Okay, because we're days away 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: now from the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. If you 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: have fifteen first round grades, then the class sucks, said 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: the GM. And I got less than fifteen this year. 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: What do we even why do we even watch it? 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Then this GM is spoken. 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: I mean the counter would be that in years past, 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: first round grades have been put on a slew of 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: underperforming bus Yeah, maybe you've just devalued certain diamonds in 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: the rough that will be fulfilling what we hope. 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I doubt that. 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: I don't get that. First of all, there's like four 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are intriguing, like top ten picks. 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: This is Ran Karthon, by the way, And then it's 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: not I have no idea who said it. 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: I see this a lot though, that every year around 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: this time they're like, well, we only have about fifteen 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: to eighteen first round grades that we usually have about eighteen. 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: I feel like, then you're doing it wrong. There has 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: to by definition, you should be averaging thirty two each year. 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: But there's gotta be you know what I mean. Though 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: you're saying sure worthy, but there there's a bar internally 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: of what in their mind makes up a talent that 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: is a first round Are. 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: You comparing them to the body of draftable players over 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: the last fifteen, twenty years and they're saying that they're 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: not adding up and that's pretty like unanimous across the board. 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: I guess I just think that's a silly way to 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: put it, because the first round, by definition, would be 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: your top thirty players, thirty two players on app Like, 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: if that's how they're doing, if you're doing it every year, 39 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: that you would have thirty two of those guys on average. 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: If you went over like a ten year period, you 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: would your average would be around thirty two. And they're saying, 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: we usually have about seventeen. Well, then what's going on. 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're if you're trying to pump 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: up the draft, but I would say in general, like 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: across the board, this is fewed as one of the 46 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: weaker draft class that we've ever seen since we've been here. 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Finally, I will say this, at least it is a 48 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: quarterback draft, which makes it a more interesting and alluring 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: not Era Fisher scenario come Thursday night. So we don't know, 50 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: and that's I guess that is like kind of your 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: point too. It's like the idea that anyone actually knows, 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: like who is what right now? 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: It's well, we also heard like the greatest quarterback class 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: of the since Marino included Zach Wilson and Trey Lance 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: going two three, So it's like, I don't shut up. 56 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 57 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: My thing is like if there's only fifteen or twenty 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: and whatever first rounders, it makes the back after the 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 4: first round that much more interesting because it's so unpredictable 60 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 4: because some teams will have these guys. Some teams will 61 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: have those guys, Like, we have no idea how this draft. 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: That's how you pitch it. 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: It does have a lot of like intriguing second and 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: third round receivers and running backs, which is where we 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: were at least like the May attention. 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: A tall man in a suit just came into the 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: studio behind the glass and patted Justin on the head 68 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: and that stuck a twenty in his front pocket, and 69 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: left without saying a word. Who was it? We don't 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: know speaking of Justin. 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: Thank you, I'm a company person. 72 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: I walked into the studio to see the two mock 73 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: draftsmen chopping it up, Sessler and Graver, Graver speaking in 74 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: almost a little bit of a worried tone about how 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: to handle the big mock draft off on Wednesday ahead 76 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: of the real draft. Do you like that, Mark, seeing 77 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: Justin seeming to be in his head a little bit 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: this close to the mock draft. 79 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: Well, I love the passions. Let's start right there with 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: the positives. Whenever you talk about the positive traits, he's 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: plugged in. He's already worked on his quite a bit 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: of I got a text on the weekend about it 83 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: from him, which I knew. I knew that he was 84 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: toiling away. I have yet to beget my foul with Mark. Well, 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: I think I just don't want to lose the conceit 86 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: of the exercise. It's not that you sit. If you 87 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: go spend four thousand hours doing your mock draft. Then 88 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: it's like, the point is you're just like everyone else 89 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: if you come up with it in about thirty five minutes. Yeah, 90 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: which is what I typically do when I'm throwing a 91 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: lot of spicy trades and stuff. That's what the point 92 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: of the exercise is, is, like I, it's if you 93 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: are if you If we're going draft Guru a road, 94 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: that's cool, but then it's me versus another draft gurrule. 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm already dealing with thirty two. 96 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: Here's the thing, what if I told you the amount 97 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: of hours that Justin puts into this has absolutely no 98 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: impact on how accurate he is. 99 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: That's exactly But that's exactly what the exercise is here 100 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: to tell. 101 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Us, right right, It's an A B test. 102 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: If you will now he could offer good analysis on 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: the show, he'll feel better and more excited about the 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 3: two thousand twenty three. 105 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Season, no doubt about. 106 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: He'll know a lot, But I don't think he'll Let's 107 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: do any better. 108 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: Let's keep it real here. I think Justin, who's a 109 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: young man who's striving for career gains, sees this as 110 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: an opportunity. Well, he crosing stuff. 111 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: He also crushed me last year so I think he's 112 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: like you can start to see like that. We get 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: the a version of Justin, which is a he's a 114 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: very wonderful person. There's an element of compliance in his role, 115 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: sure and cooperation. But then you see this other side 116 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: of Justin. He's like, I will destroy Cessler two times 117 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: sco but I'm not trying to. Where I'm coming from 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: is like I'm trying to throw some chaos into the 119 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: industry that if you spend thirty five minutes you probably 120 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: come as close as ninety five percent of the people 121 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: that spend six months on it. 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: It's weird because Yessica when we were in London used 123 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: the same words to describe Justin. There's an element of 124 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: compliance to well, that's why resistance are so sorry. We 125 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: keep talking about Justin. He's just sitting and right there 126 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: you can you can jump in and one second, one. 127 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: More thing about you. Yeah, And how he does in 128 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: this mock draft. If he does go back to back, yeah, champion, 129 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: if you will, it will accelerate his path to the 130 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: next step. We usually have a producer about about two 131 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: to three years before they just say I'm doing my 132 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: own thing. If he nails this, I think he's gone 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: in six months. I think that's what we're looking at 134 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: the writings on the wall. Yeah, so part of me 135 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: is hoping you failed, justin because I enjoy having you 136 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: as our producer. But I also understand if you hit 137 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: twenty out of thirty. 138 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: Two thirty one, that's. 139 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: Impossible, inevitable fireball, that's all the building. 140 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: I'm hoping to get ten like that. Ten will be 141 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: a huge win for He really cares, so. 142 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: I do like that because there was a sort of 143 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: a tension in his way when we were discussing this. 144 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Andy for for all the you know, the surface of 145 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: it all, Mark's a competitive guy. I think Mark is 146 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: wants to win too. I want to lose. 147 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: But what I want to prove again is that I 148 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: can do it in about twenty seven to thirty minutes 149 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: tops and match the results of people working on it 150 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: for seven or eight months. In general, in humanity, that's 151 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: great for industry if you can find a way to 152 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: get something done right. 153 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: That speaks to like the three day work week, or 154 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: that's all I'm trying to get to. All Right, we're 155 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: trying to get to this show, So let's get into 156 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: it now. Today is Monday, we have a lot of 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: news to get through and some rumors as well, because 158 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: things obviously are heating up. And then also we love it. 159 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: It's a tradition around here, Sangwage props where we make 160 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: our predictions for the draft and try to get people 161 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: to go against us on said predictions, and then someone 162 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: comes out looking great on draft nights. Sometimes sometimes it's 163 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: a total bust. We all get everything wrong. It's kind 164 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: of a little it's got some mock draftiness to it 165 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: as well, so Sandwich props, Greggie I'm up later. 166 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: It's a tried and true tradition. Our records in that 167 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: are outrageous. If you go to go get my Lunch 168 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: dot org. 169 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: It's outrageous. Ryan Ryan Frontier? Is it Ryan? 170 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: So far away from it? 171 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: What is it? I don't know what I mean, You're 172 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: so far away from it. 173 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: You don't know. I don't think either. I don't think 174 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: it's Ryan or Frontier that much. I know Chad Fourtiertier. 175 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: I believe it was a Ryan Fourtier. 176 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm focused on the last name, which I believe was Fortier. 177 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: This is when the producer would be helpful to jump 178 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: in and save us or me. 179 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: When I say outrageous though, I just mean the total amount. 180 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: And if you just go back in there and you 181 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 3: can find some gems like I saw Dan at one 182 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: point we all were guessing where Kirk Cousins would go 183 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: when he was leaving Washington. You had the jets that 184 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: you're and there's the records. I mean, Mark, for instance, 185 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: is one eighty and two hundred and five. And that's 186 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: the problem with mark situation in this U you need 187 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: to go undefeated for like three for like a year 188 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: straight to get back to five hundred. 189 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: I see think I. 190 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: Come of the contest a little bit differently though. 191 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: I think there's a through line here with your drafting. 192 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: You're not looking for big time win loss victories. You 193 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: just want to hit that big win. 194 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: I'm not like a singles doubles hitter. I just look 195 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: at once in a while crack a home running with 196 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: a lot of striker. 197 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: You're more like a Steve Balboni type, one. 198 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: Of my least favorite athlete names of all time. So 199 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: thank you, all Right, let's get to the news. 200 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think money is nice, championships are better. Hey, 201 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: oh and that was that was Jalen Hurts and his 202 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: press conference with the Eagles after signing that massive extension, 203 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: and obviously Greg shot across the bow of the entire 204 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: loam Armie there. 205 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: I don't view it that way, but I like that 206 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: he's he's using some of that money on on the hair, 207 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: because you could tell he knew it was contract press 208 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: conference not well. I thought it was a joke that 209 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: I wasn't supposed to take serious. 210 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Oh I'm deadly serious he's saying, and in the regards 211 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: to hey, you didn't end up getting the most guaranteed 212 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: money ever. It's a nice contract, but you know, and 213 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: he was clearly stating, Hey, I think. 214 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: I think he's seen about his truth, which is that 215 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: money's nice championship, but some things he can't buy, you. 216 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Know, when he h he got when the contract over 217 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: to the Lamar. 218 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there was any merit to what 219 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: you say. I don't think it had anything to do 220 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: with Lamar that I mean, I. 221 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: Think, Okay, I wasn't the only one who thought that, 222 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: But okay, I don't think he's taken a shot at Lamar. 223 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 2: No. 224 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: I think I think that's preposterous. 225 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: Of course it is. 226 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: Of course they called him he was just lifting weights. 227 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: It just said, you know the contracts come through, you're 228 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: extremely rich. And he said great and just went back 229 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: to lift more. 230 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Well, that's what you want from your franchise quarterback. Good 231 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: for him, not good for several members and now former 232 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: members of the Detroit Lions. This came through late last 233 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: week the NFL suspended five players, including four Lions, for 234 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: violating gambling gambling policy rap report Ian Rapport had reported. Initially, 235 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: the league suspended number first round pick last year, Jamison 236 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: Williams for six games. Quintin Quintez Cephas, Stanley Berryhill in 237 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: safety CJ. Moore, as well as Commander's defensive end Shaka 238 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: Tony Williams and berry Hill got six games. Cephas, More 239 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: and Tony all got suspended indefinitely and can apply for 240 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: reinstatement after the twenty twenty three seasons. This then led 241 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: to the release of Cephis and more from the lines 242 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: or other Detroit officials connected to this. And this is 243 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: just about greg Ee, the stupidest thing I've heard in 244 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: a long time in the league. When you read about 245 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: the details of this story, knowing full well what happened 246 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: with Calvin Ridley, knowing that the NFL now that we're 247 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: in bed as a league with gambling are on the 248 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: patrol in a very profound way to be this reckless. 249 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I feel for the guys because it costs them they're 250 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: living in some cases, but it's hard to wrap your 251 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: head around it. 252 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 3: I think this was bound to happen, and maybe it 253 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: will happen again a handful of times, right as this 254 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: gambling policy in this new world we're living in happen 255 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: until enough players sort of realize that it's just you're 256 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: gonna get suspended. And some of the details that Jamison Williams, 257 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: for instance, who has suspended six games for betting on 258 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 3: college football, but he did it at the team facility 259 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: instead of at home where it would have been fine, 260 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: is very likely something not every NFL player is aware of, 261 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: or even most NFL players are aware of, And you 262 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: would hope after this they will be more aware of 263 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: that and we can keep great players on the field, because, yeah, 264 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 3: for a guy like CJ. Moore, for instance, who's like 265 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: a core special teamer and his whole life was leading 266 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: to this contract he just got, which was two years, 267 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: four and a half million dollars with a year of 268 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: one point four million dollars signing bonus because the Patriots 269 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: were interested in He's like a you know, a twenty 270 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 3: seven year old special teamer guy, like it just crushed 271 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: his career. I'm sure he'll get a job in a year, 272 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 3: but he is losing an incredible amount of money. 273 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Well, I mean crushed his career because of a decision 274 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: he made. 275 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: Though. 276 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing we where we are, you know, 277 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: linked with the players is that in the offseason every 278 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: year you go through a pretty in depth, hammer dropping 279 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: course about what you can and cannot do when it 280 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: comes to this, and I do I understand that if 281 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: you're a player, you're new to the NFL, some of 282 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: this stuff will go in one ear and out the other. 283 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: I think the other problem is that we I mean, 284 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: there are eighteen, nineteen, seventeen, ten year old people out 285 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: there just gambling on their phones, and it's like it's 286 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: part of maybe what you do. And then you come 287 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: into the NFL and if you're thinking I can gamble 288 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: on college football, maybe the breakdown of it happening at 289 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: the facility is lost on you. I could see that. 290 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: I think the idea that anyone was gambling on NFL games, 291 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: So it's like the real example. I think it's not 292 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: going to be the courses. It's like Calvin Ridley lost 293 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 2: a year of his career and wound up on a 294 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: whole different team because of this. If that doesn't sink in, 295 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 2: it's like what will sink in until like five or 296 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: six more of these guys. 297 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: I think a handful of it. I saw a lot 298 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: of people saying that, like, how could this happen when 299 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 3: it happened to Calvin? Really, I was like, you think 300 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: everyone in the NFL is like super aware of what happened. 301 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: I know it's gonna happen a handful of times. And 302 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: multiple Lion staffers were fired, uh for this in a 303 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: month previous. So who knows exactly what was. 304 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Going on here? 305 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: Was it like somehow altogether like a pool or whatever 306 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: for the guys who got fired or lost the year? 307 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: We don't know those details. 308 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then James and Williams say I saw some 309 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: takes out there like the NFL needs to, you know, 310 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: clean it up, and jameson Williams getting caught up in 311 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,239 Speaker 1: this gambling on non NFL doing it from the facility. 312 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: Of course, the league is not gonna want that. They 313 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: don't want guys in the locker room talking about where 314 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: they're laying the wagers down. It doesn't matter if it's 315 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: NFL or not. And there's just got to be some 316 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: common sense if you're gonna do that, know the rules, 317 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: or this happens. Right. 318 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: There was a lot of and I understand Dan, the 319 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: hypocrisy on the NFL's level of like, oh, look like 320 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: all these shows are presented by FanDuel and DraftKings and 321 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: they're out here doing this, Like, okay, what is your 322 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: other option here? You allow players to gamble on football? Like, right, 323 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: you're just making an argument because literally no one thinks 324 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: that that is a good idea. The whole team facility, 325 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: college football thing. I get that that seems a little 326 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: a little too particular, but it is what it is, 327 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: and the whole like no one is arguing that they 328 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,359 Speaker 3: should be allowed to bet on the NFL would be insane. 329 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: And not for nothing. Jameson Williams is a high level 330 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: prospect first round pick. Missed a good chunk of last 331 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: year with the knee injury that he suffered in college. 332 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Had one catch last year, a long touchdown. A lot 333 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: of excitement about him entering this year healthy and ready 334 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: to roll. And this is just a huge deflating aspect of. 335 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: The star top five breakout player if you were, if 336 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: you were a vaig to one, He's missed, you know, 337 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: so much of his career already. This is how I 338 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: first round picked two years in starts and not looks 339 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: so good. But that said, I always feel like these suspensions, 340 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: like from week seven on is an eternity. These seasons 341 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: are so long that it's like they can get through. 342 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: This, right Marvin Jones they signed recently, Maybe they knew 343 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: this was coming as a third receiver Josh Reynold, demon 344 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: Ra Saint Brown. But I do think they'll draft a 345 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: receiver and or a tight end. They could use one. 346 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: Here's a neat little segue. Kentucky quarterback Will Levis is 347 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: now the favorite to be the number two overall pick 348 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. Multiple sports books 349 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: now have Levis as that favorite to be selected after 350 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, who's widely expected obviously to go to the Panthers. 351 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Greg Mark. This comes, you know, amid continued speculation that CJ. Stroud, 352 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: once upon a time believed to be either number one 353 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: or number two, is not as well loved on draft 354 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: boards for teams, opening the door for some zaniness and Levis, 355 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: who's been profiled as a big, strong, high upside, but 356 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: coming off a not so sterling final year of college 357 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: and injury issues, him slotting at number two that would 358 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: be seems like a gamble. But also maybe somebody's in 359 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: love with him. 360 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: And I think some teams view him as a safer 361 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: pick than Anthony Richardson, who maybe has a freakier upside. 362 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: If you can, if he becomes what you think, I 363 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: mean to me, Will Levis had a great twenty twenty one, 364 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: and I think went with a lot of expectations last 365 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: season and went it went down a little bit, and 366 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: I think that it affected who will Will Levis, how 367 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: he was seen by others. I mean to go number two, though. 368 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: All we're hearing is that the Texans are this team 369 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: sitting out there with a tangible disinterested picking picking a 370 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: quarterback potentially at number two. 371 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: Right, he's the favorite by a decent amount. He's like 372 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: negative one fifty, So basically he's the favorite by a 373 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: decent amount over the entire field combined, which is shocking. 374 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: And I do put these odds as more newsworthy than 375 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: basically any other odds that happen over the course of 376 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: the season, because very often these odds are an indicator 377 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: of what's gonna happen, and and like they change a lot. 378 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: We saw that last year with the draft. The odds 379 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: flipped and it was they were pretty accurate right before 380 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: the draft. Doesn't mean this is gonna happen. I don't 381 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: think Vegas knows anything more than for instance, the three 382 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 3: of US know. But I think they're basing it on 383 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: all the report reporting that's out there, more than the 384 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: three of US. I just mean, like people have this 385 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 3: idea that they have these inside uh tells, like that 386 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: they have inside information. I don't buy that it's basically 387 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: based on public reporting, but I think that the public 388 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: reporting is pointing this way. And I don't think it's 389 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: necessarily the Texans, wh would take them at too. I 390 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: think it could be a team like the Patriots could be. 391 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: It could be a lot of teams, could be the Titans. 392 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: Who knows its got the Patriots in there. 393 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: I don't like it, but that's you know, there's a 394 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: lot of Levis Patriots talk. Mark has a Patriots a 395 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: dark horse to trade up as a high just highlighted. 396 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, whenever you can get Greg and I in 397 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: the same it's a good thing. It is. It gives 398 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: me goosebumps. I have to say. Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, 399 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: he is out there reporting that the Tennessee Titans and 400 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill could be parting ways. Despite reports going in 401 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: both directions throughout the off seasons, teams, according to Fowler, 402 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: believe that Tannehill is available via trade. 403 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: Not a surprising I think It's been the case the 404 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: whole offseason that I've sort of assumed Derrick Henry and 405 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill are available in a trade if the right 406 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: price came, and there's been no indications that anyone's shown 407 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: much interest. So teams believe he's available. Whether that means 408 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: the team goes big on Tannel, I don't know, but 409 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: I think he could be available, especially if they get 410 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 3: a quarterback in the first round. 411 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of those scenarios where like, 412 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: let's see what happens in the drafts, and if a 413 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: team gets left out in the cold, Ryan Tannehill suddenly 414 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense for someone. It doesn't surprise 415 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: me at all because you're also hearing the Tennessee is 416 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: one of these clubs that is like looking at maybe 417 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: jumping way up in the draft to get quarterback of tomorrow. 418 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: So that would make Tannehill available. 419 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: What do you think, Graver, Because it's funny when the 420 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: more I watched Levis and I tried to like like 421 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: him more and more I watched, and I think he's 422 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: a good prospect. He makes sense as like a first 423 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: round pick. He reminded me of Ryan Tannehill, kind of 424 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: like a twenty twenty three version where he's definitely more athletic. 425 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: He weirdly hasn't talked about enough as like he could 426 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 3: be your wildcat quarterback. I mean that's literally what he 427 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 3: was in college at first. So he's incredibly athletic, and 428 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: he kind of reminds me of Tannehill as a player. 429 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 4: I agree with that, And I tweeted out last week 430 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: or maybe a couple of weeks ago that, like my 431 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: most controversial draft take was I would be okay if 432 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 4: the Titans took Will Levis sure, And I definitely think 433 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill is like on the trade block if the 434 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: right team came calling. They never did anything to restructure 435 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: his salary this year. Nothing to like tack on extra 436 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 4: years or a justice cap hit in any kind of 437 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 4: lower way that might make it harder to trade him, 438 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: but more manageable for this year. So I think him Henry, 439 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: like Kevin Byard, all these guys are up for grabs 440 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 4: if the right team. 441 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: I just don't know where that team is. 442 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: I think I just feel like the Atlanta Falcons makes sense. 443 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: Hey, I have a something something cooking for a Wednesday 444 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: with that mark, So okay, keep that on your keep 445 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: that in mind. 446 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: In other news. I will. 447 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: We've been we've been talking Townehill to the Falcons for 448 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: three months. 449 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: How many versions of your mock draft have you gone 450 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: through so far? 451 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Six? Wow? 452 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: This is an absurd exercise because it's like, all right, 453 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: he's in it to win it. 454 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: He's in it to win it. What is Tom Brady 455 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: up to these days? He's doing things like speaking at 456 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: the Emerge America's at the Miami Beach Convention Center, whatever 457 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: the hell that is. 458 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: I want to know how much he was paid for 459 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: that forty five minutes. 460 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Well, he lives I think he lives in Florida, right, Well, sure, 461 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: so it's a it's an easy trip. I think You're 462 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: probably not getting Brady for less than half a mill. 463 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: Right, that's a lot of money for an hour. I 464 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: don't know how would. 465 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: You get the glad handing the photo ops two and 466 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: seventy grand between two seventy and five. I have no 467 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: fail I feel like I think it's like ten g's 468 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: or something like. 469 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: A hundred felt like a lot for an hour. But 470 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: you might be right, You might be right. 471 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Anyway, So he was there and uh, 472 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: someone asked him, I don't know if there's a reporter 473 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: that I don't know what's going out at Emerge America's. 474 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know what emerged. 475 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: It was a Q and A scenario. 476 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 3: It was like him and a host talking about who 477 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: knows what? And he the host asked him. 478 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: As for what else is going on? You're right, justin 479 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: please look up what Emerge America's is. Anyway, here's the question, 480 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: is there any chance you're coming out of retirement and 481 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: playing for the Finns? 482 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: All right? 483 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: Here's the response from Tom Brady via b Kaminsky on Twitter. 484 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 3: Now that I'm not affiliated with any team anymore, and 485 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: you and I have strong ties. 486 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: With a couple of teams. 487 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: I do have some friends on the Dolphins that I 488 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: really liked, so I wouldn't say this. 489 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 5: They root for them all the time, but I root 490 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 5: for my friends to do well, and several of them 491 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 5: played for my. 492 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that? That was a bizarre answer. 493 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: It was a very direct question too. He was like, 494 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: would you come out of retirement to play for the Dolphins? 495 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: And his response was I have friends on the Dolphins. 496 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: Well, one of the friends he doesn't have is the 497 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: first rounder they would have picked if they weren't doctor 498 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: first rounder. For talking with Tom Brady, you know who 499 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: else isn't a friend? Probably Tua, who's like, bro, shut up. 500 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: Do you think I'm trying? I have enough on my plate. 501 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm Tua. 502 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what I'm dealing with. I'm Tua, 503 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: and I know about the yacht trip and the doctor 504 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: draft picks and and my injury issues. And now you're 505 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: gonna come out and basically leave the door open. I'm 506 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: not putting too much into it, but it is interesting. 507 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: He didn't say, no, I'm done, I'm retired. 508 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: I'm pretty ruining for the Dolphins. I'm putting a little 509 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: into it because the question was as simple as could be. 510 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 3: Is there any chance you're coming out of retirement to 511 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: play for the Fins? And you couldn't answer that even 512 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: in the least. I also want to know who are 513 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: his friends? Who are his friends on the team. Is 514 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: he friends with Austin Jackson, the right tackle coming off 515 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: of an injury? How about cater Cahou like the the 516 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: slot cornerback. I am looking up and down this friend 517 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: Jerome Baker. 518 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: The Braxton Barrios back in their days of doing and 519 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: you could see them hanging out. 520 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: Okay, you got ross. That's good. I forgot. I forgot 521 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: friends with the owner of the team. Forgot Braxton Barrios 522 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: was on the team. 523 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: But he said multiple friends, so we're gonna get Yeah. 524 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: I don't really see. It's not like an older roster 525 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. 526 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: You know, they've shared a lot of big stages together. 527 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl. 528 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: You know. Maybe I don't know. I don't know. 529 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: It's weird, yes, justin Emerge America's is the premier technology 530 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: conference transforming Miami into a global tech hub. And if 531 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: you go to their website, there are two big buttons 532 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: on the main page. One of them is register and 533 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 4: the other one is meet tom Brady. 534 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, so I think he got paid very tech 535 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: hub four hundred. I'm gonna say, I don't think you're wrong. 536 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: I might improvise my two seveny in his back pocket. 537 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, some of it, we will. It's not on the 538 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: books all right in other news. So I guess keep 539 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: a eye on the Tom Brady situation. I choose not to, 540 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: but I understand why we must. 541 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: Well, if something happened to Tua, I now feel like 542 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: I don't that at least in Tom Brady's mind. It's 543 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 3: it's an open question. 544 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we're a week out from Tua acknowledging that 545 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: he put deep contemplation into retiring. Sure, I think that 546 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: helps to it when Tua goes and says that he's 547 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: not helping his own case. 548 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: But it does continue to build. It does the non 549 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: answer does continue to build this idea that Brady is 550 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: obviously keeping his options open this year, and because I 551 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: think I floated the Raiders last year, is like he's 552 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: their backup quarterback right now. Yeah when Jimmy g if 553 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: he gets hurt and they don't draft QB. Like, I 554 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: think he's very open and maybe he's playing it smart, 555 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: like I don't know how I'm gonna feel in October 556 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: like I might be dying. And then and then somebody, 557 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: I know that's a quote unquote friend calls me up. 558 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: So he doesn't want to give that answer one way 559 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: or because if he says yes, I'm open to it, 560 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: it's a circus. If he says no, he's gonna feel 561 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: like he's going back on his word or make it 562 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: seem like he's waffling. So he's trying to like cut 563 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: it down the middle. It's you know, there's no way 564 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: it's done with Tom Brady. No, it's in me. 565 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: I think Also when your golf rival Aaron Rodgers is 566 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: able to take his situation and elongate to do what 567 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: he's done with it, to turn into a like months 568 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: long drama for the third year in a row, it's 569 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: like Brady's like, I can do that to you. 570 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: Where he's out on the golf course, it's like, oh, 571 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: who's this. Oh yeah, it's it's Braxton and Andrew Van Ginkel, 572 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: your best bros. You want to come in. 573 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's pause the news right here, get a 574 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: break and come right back. Al Right, we're back. The 575 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: new coach of the Cardinals is our friend and rising 576 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: ATM star Jonathan Gannon. There was a question an answer 577 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: session connected with the uniform reveal of the Cardinals. Is 578 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: that correct? 579 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: Yes, they put out new uniforms last week. 580 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: Great perfect timing, and he discussed at times a difficult 581 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: last season in Philly, despite the fact that the Eagles 582 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: had this big year on both sides of the ball 583 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: and nearly won the Super Bowl A. Gannon was criticized 584 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: the time for the Eagles and the scheme, and he 585 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: had this to say when discussing some of the issues 586 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: he had, including not talking to the media immediately after 587 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: their defense collapsed in Super Bowl fifty seven. 588 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 5: I'm very comfortable talking to media. Philly is a very 589 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 5: hard media market. We were nine to zero and I 590 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 5: did my presser and they say, coach, we want you fired. 591 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 5: And I said, I said, we're the number one defense 592 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 5: in the NFL right now in every statistical category. Why 593 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: do you want me fire? You don't blitz enough. I said, well, 594 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 5: we leave the league in sacks by thirty plus sacks. 595 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 5: So if you want to come call the defense and 596 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 5: you can have at it. But uh no, it's uh 597 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 5: it's it's it's cool. 598 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: He went on too, and like like why he said, like, 599 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 3: why do you want me fired? You don't blitze. I mean, 600 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: this never happened. No one ever called for him to 601 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: be fired. Certainly, no one ever did at all. 602 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: People called. People checked that. First of all, they weren't 603 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: nine to zero at any point. People checked like the 604 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: transcripts in that time and didn't find any type of 605 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: back and forth with Gannon in the media about this. Obviously, 606 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: he's a little in his feelings about some criticism he's getting. 607 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the year before though, the players were very 608 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: critical of the defense, right, I mean, there were there 609 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: was criticism around him, but that interaction, like it was 610 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: interesting to see, like Philly beat writers come out of 611 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: the woodwork as they should and say this did not occur, 612 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: I mean to the way he described. 613 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: Well, I just think it's a major red flag of 614 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: how he's going to handle this next year because in 615 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 3: his head, this is what happened a year ago, and 616 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: it never it never happened. Plus, if you're that like 617 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: loose with how you're presenting things to the media, you're 618 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna get You're gott and I get in trouble 619 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: like that. He continued, like it went on a little 620 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: bit like why do you want me fired? And they 621 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: said you don't blitz enough, and he's just like, yeah, 622 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: I admit that it was probably all in his head 623 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: of how that all happened. But he also famously did not, 624 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: as he said, answer any questions after the super Bowl. 625 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: It's like, not a great sign either. 626 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: I think I think you were just what you said 627 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: is very right in that, especially at this high profile 628 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: level job, he's gonna learn quickly he can't shoot from 629 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: the lip without everything coming out of his mouth being 630 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: something that is actually true, because people will look it 631 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: up and you'll kind of look it makes him look 632 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: a little weak and like he's it looks defensive defensive, 633 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: you know. 634 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, I cannot think I cannot point to 635 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: a team right now that needs an offseason with maybe 636 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: some tempered lower non trauma. You don't need this coach 637 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: creating a hot soup every week with with problems. 638 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: I want to make to the Cardinals, we're gonna fight, 639 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: We're gonna say something positive for their fans on Draft night. 640 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: I always I'm gonna try. It's been tough. 641 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Would have they like missed their pick or something. This 642 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: is the twenty year anniversary. By the way of the 643 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: Vikings falling, Actually two spots in the draft shout out 644 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: to the team's right behind them. It was the Ravens, 645 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: and I believe maybe the Chiefs who turned in their 646 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: cards sensing drama and miscalculation on the Minnesota side of things, 647 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: so they dropped from seven to nine and still got 648 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: a great player, it should be stated, the guy they 649 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: wanted all. 650 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: Along, Kevin William William in their Ring of Honor. 651 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: In their Ring of Honor, And there's a really good 652 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: piece on ESPN they dropped this morning, breaking down all 653 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: the drama behind that, and a lot of it went 654 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: back to an owner who was losing money with the 655 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: Metrodome and wanted them to trade back even if it 656 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: was a bad value, so they would pay their first 657 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: round pick less money and have less of in the 658 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: old rookie pay scale, which was massive. Red mccar pretty 659 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: dark stuff. Red McCombs who sold the team shortly there. 660 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: That was so long ago. Hook em horns? What are 661 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: you hooking horns over there? 662 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 4: That's the name of our business school, the Red McComb 663 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 4: School of Business. 664 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: Absurd. It was so long ago. 665 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: I was watching that in a like, not on television, 666 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: but for some reason in like a college library. I 667 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: wasn't in college, but they showed the picks, you know, 668 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: they'd come up on computer without sound, one by one, 669 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: and then suddenly the vikings vanish off the screen. I 670 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: was like, what on earth occurred here? 671 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: Shout out from the Kicker Club to Tyler Bass, who's 672 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: got bottle service. He got a four year extension from 673 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: the Bills. He's one of the steadiest guys in the league. 674 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: And finally, before we get to some rumors, this is 675 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: news Matt Patricia. He's now joining the Eagles defensive coaching staff, 676 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: which makes sense a b I didn't realize. I guess 677 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: I kind of knew, but obviously didn't work out with 678 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: him being a major figure in New England's offense to 679 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: say the least. But I was surprised that they just 680 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of kicked him to the herber. Did he leave 681 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: by his own choice or how did the Belichick conversation 682 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: go with Patricia after that year in which Patricia got 683 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: put in a bad spot? Did he get the choice 684 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 1: to stay or was Bill like, hey, you weren't good 685 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: at this. 686 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: You got to seem like a good time for a breakup. 687 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we've spent a lot of time as humans 688 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: finding out what Matt Patricia can't do, so I hope 689 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: he can do this. 690 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: Man Belichick wouldn't answer the Patricia questions my feel of it, 691 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: and I think those two are very close, because he 692 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: did confirm Joe Judge was going to be back, but 693 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: wouldn't say about Patria. My feel of it was like 694 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick was working as hard as possible to get 695 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: Matt Patricia a job elsewhere, but he was not coming 696 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: back to the Patriots, And if I really had to guess, 697 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: like that might not have been Bill Belichick's decision either. 698 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: It's a lot of Robert Kraft. 699 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know, Craft is a guy he knows when 700 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: he says things. It's not always direct. He's a successful businessman. 701 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: He might have other thoughts, but he went out of 702 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: his way to absolve Matt Patricia in those comments and 703 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: went after Belichick directly about that. But anyway, it's good 704 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: for Patricia, who obviously didn't do well as a head 705 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: coach in Detroit and it was a disaster in New England, 706 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: but he's done things in his career. Belichick, who we 707 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: respect more than anyone thinks very highly of him, so well, 708 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: maybe he's up on the accelerator. 709 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: On Patricia, you're right, I will amend what I said, 710 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: the tone with what I which I came in on 711 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: that we. 712 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Saw you put him ten feet underground. 713 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: We saw and Patricia at the owners meeting hanging out 714 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: for hours together with their wives. I guess if Belichick 715 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: is Linda Holiday wife. I believe she's still a girlfriend. 716 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, longtime GF. 717 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, at this time, it's got to be common law. 718 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is in Massachusetts. 719 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's entering that we look at it. Please 720 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: craver that Goldie Hawn Kurt Russell territory where it's like, hey, 721 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: don't need it, don't. 722 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: Need go down that road if you don't three times 723 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion Matt Patricia put on. 724 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's share some rumors that we've seen out there. Okay, 725 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: I will throw this one out there via Peter King 726 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: via Bleacher Report on C. J. Stroud, it's no Locky 727 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: go in the top seven of the twenty twenty three 728 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: NFL Draft Top seven. 729 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: That s two score that has gone out about him, 730 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 2: you know, and we we'd heard about that a little 731 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: bit before it became news. Seems to have impacted his 732 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: draft stock. To some agree because on tape watching him throw, 733 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: I think he is like the most natural thrower and 734 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: it's like intoxicating to watch him. But there's something going 735 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: on with him and not being a fit for you know, 736 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: not number one, not number two necessarily, and like if 737 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: the Raiders don't take him at seven where they're sitting, 738 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: that would be remarkable. 739 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I am not totally shocked that a lot 740 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: of teams have the quarterbacks in different orders. I think 741 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: there's some teams that certainly some media folks and I 742 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: can see why I have richardson one or two. There's 743 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: there's certainly a lot of teams by the reporting out 744 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: there that has levis two, and then by you know, 745 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: process of elimination, that means on some boards at least 746 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: Stroud is four. So he's probably anywhere from one to four. 747 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 3: But I don't buy it because I think the Colts 748 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 3: at four would make a lot of sense. And then 749 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: every you know, Seahawks, Lions, Raiders to me are all 750 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: potential quarterback spots. 751 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: I mean, or someone trades up. I mean, I just 752 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'd be surprised. 753 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: To me. 754 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: He seems like the guy that the Colts end up 755 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: building around, especially if Levis goes before him, that'd be 756 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: crazy too. 757 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: I'll throw another thing out Peter Schrager. Of course, NFL 758 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: Network Zone from Good Morning Football had to Here's what 759 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: I heard breakdown on the program this morning. He heard 760 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: Jon Robinson and Jamiir Gibbs will go in the first round. 761 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: So two running backs in the first round. Jalen Carter 762 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: won't fall out of the top six. Sam Laporta could 763 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: go before Darnell Washington. Arizona is quote open for business 764 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: at picked three, and he said Houston is not scared 765 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: to pass on a QB. Some of this stuff maybe 766 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna get on get into in a little bit. 767 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: But just throwing that out there. 768 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Carter could be if the off field stuff 769 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 2: you if that were not in existence. Cential top number 770 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: one pick and you're talking about Seattle at five and 771 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: Detroit at six. I know, Seattle number one is like 772 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: an absolute home run target for jailing Carter. 773 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: Right him and Richards, they're that pick is maybe the 774 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: most fascinating in the draft. You mentioned Jamir Gibbs who 775 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 3: we haven't really touched on too much, but you know, 776 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: really dynamic pass catching. 777 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 778 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: Running back almost seems like a maybe a more dynamic, 779 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 3: bigger version of Travis Etn who did go in the 780 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: first round. And I think one of the reasons why 781 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 3: this draft isn't getting a lot of love is because 782 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: maybe the best position, and certainly close to the top, 783 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: is running back. There's like seven or eight running backs 784 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: that I think, depending on what you want, whether it's 785 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 3: Zach Sharboney or Taji Spears, Kenny Mack, like Devin Achin, 786 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: like those are round two three guys, but like a 787 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 3: lot of dynamic running backs, I mean kind of need it. 788 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 3: If you look over the last few years, there haven't 789 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 3: been a lot of good running backs entering in the league. 790 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: And even at the top. Jamir Gibbs, I think people 791 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 3: just love his skill set that he could get. 792 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: But that nugget should be that Jamiir Gibbs might go 793 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: in the first round. Not right, but it would be 794 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: literally stunning to the mind if Bejon Robinson. 795 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: The question with Bejeon Robinson is I think how high 796 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: does he go in the first run. I think in 797 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: the front half or the back half, front. Do you 798 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: have a prop on that? 799 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: I mean, somebody, some of this stuff absolutely cuts into that. 800 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: Because I was going to ask the fob up question. 801 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: But let's stick a pin in it. Anybody else have 802 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: a rumor to share before we move on? 803 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: Justin you had a lot of rumors out there. Any 804 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: of your favorites you want to throw out? 805 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 4: Sure, yes, there is a bunch I think Raiders like 806 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 4: in addition to this is like adding onto the stroud 807 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 4: falling out of the top seven was that the Raiders 808 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 4: are quote unquote out on quarterbacks after they failed to 809 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 4: acquire the number one pick, and they're now targeting a 810 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 4: corner at seven. 811 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: That was from Todd. 812 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: McShay that into Tom Brady is their backup plan. 813 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And and like McDaniels had a lot 814 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 4: of interesting comments at the owner's meetings about like how 815 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 4: he really like thought that it was important to go 816 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 4: get quarterback and they're like looking forward to drafting a 817 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 4: quarterback and like weird hints like that. But now it 818 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 4: feels like maybe they will either wait till Day two 819 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 4: or not draft one at all. 820 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 3: They they are in the perfect spot to take the 821 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: top cornerback on the board. Whoever they believe that to be, 822 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 3: whether it be Whetherspoon or Gonzal. 823 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: Can you imagine Tom Brady and Jimmy g back in 824 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: a quarterback room together. The one thing I thought with 825 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 2: the Raiders, the more you learn about the quarterbacks, is 826 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 2: that Bryce Young nailed that S two test, and they've 827 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 2: talked about him. He was excellent with Bill O'Brien at Alabama. 828 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 2: You talk about him as like a tom Brady level processor, 829 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: and that feels like something that Josh McDaniels doesn't want 830 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: to settle on with a player that's not offering the 831 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: same thing. It's like he seems reluctant to go get 832 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: the guy that he can truly groom as his rookie. 833 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: Court and maybe it would take some of the edge 834 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: off it in this in this alternate reality, I think 835 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: tom Brady's only there if, like Jimmy g is in 836 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: a lower leg cast again, you know what I mean. Yeah, 837 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: one of those situations where it's not. 838 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: He's a great situation for Tom Brady in terms of 839 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 2: that roster. It's like you want, I mean, if I'm 840 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: Tom Brady, I want to go somewhere like the Dolphins 841 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: where it's like you're a playoff ross from day one. 842 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 3: Thinking about that the Raiders were trying to get up 843 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: to one. It just points out how off like the 844 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 3: reporting and Vegas, for instance, can be, because at one 845 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: point Bryce Young was a significant underdog and c. J. 846 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 3: Stroud was a heavy, heavy favorite for like a week 847 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 3: or two in Vegas to be number one overall. Since 848 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 3: then we found out, Okay, the Panthers are taken Young. 849 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 3: The Raiders tried to trade up to one, and Adam 850 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 3: Schefter reported on Monday, I thought this was really interesting 851 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: that the Texans were very aggressive trying to get up 852 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: to one from two, and presumably they were gonna take 853 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 3: Bryce Young, and that's why they're not in love with 854 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 3: taking a quarterback now at two. And the difference was 855 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: the picks were similar, but the Bears threw in DJ 856 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 3: Moore and DJ Moore ended the converse. 857 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 2: The difference also was the result of one of your 858 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: favorite regular season games of the year, Greg, where the 859 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: Texans like haphazardly won their season finale with a coach 860 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: who was Ken days later and a quarterback who's now 861 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: in the rear view mirror. 862 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 3: Don't do that. I gotta go get your quarterback and 863 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm just kind of stupid. Look, hey, Davis Mills helped 864 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: himself out there. He made two or three plays in 865 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 3: that game that. 866 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: Davis Mills help himself. It's like you set your employer 867 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: on his fire. He also the ball that essentially won 868 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: the game went right through the You got. 869 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 3: To say that, But there was a couple of playoffs 870 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: come down. There was there was one play before that 871 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 3: where he was sprinting right and threw on the run 872 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 3: to save the game. 873 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: And what a special time. It was credible for anything else, 874 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: justin real quick. 875 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, last one this from Mike Florio greg PFT. The 876 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 4: Seahawks may be targeting Anthony Richardson at pick number five, 877 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 4: which would like almost everyone is putting Jalen Carter into 878 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 4: the Seahawks at five, or Tyree Wilson or whatever best 879 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 4: ed rusher happens to make it to number five. If 880 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 4: they took Anthony Richardson, I think that would throw a 881 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 4: lot of mock drafts out of whack. And so I'm 882 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 4: I'm leaning into this rumor. 883 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: Torn up, torn up by the thought of richards and 884 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: going to yell and ruining. 885 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 4: I also would love the Titans to draft Anthony Richardson, 886 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: So that would. 887 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: Be I love g know, and yet I think they 888 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 3: should take Richardson at five and that like it just 889 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: seems like you're not going to have a chance for 890 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: a guy that they potentially special. I don't think that 891 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 3: would happen, but I think it makes some sense because 892 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 3: just because I think he is uniquely that worth. 893 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: Isn't it perfect though, because Seattle, you know, by their 894 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: own design, did a great job of getting into this 895 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: position by a believing in Gino making it work. And 896 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 2: now you could say Anthony Richardson maybe the guy that 897 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: could use half a season or a season behind Geno. 898 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: But I think you'll find out who Gino is if 899 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 2: he suddenly is his error parent is a drafted he'll. 900 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 3: Have like get over on. He'll have to have a 901 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 3: winning record after seven weeks or else he gets some heat. 902 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: So that is that before too, that he was in 903 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: New York when Donald was drafted, and he handled himself 904 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: well before the I mean yeah, but he wasn't. 905 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: He wasn't like Gino Smith when Donald was drafted was 906 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 2: persona on Grada and. 907 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 3: There he was not nearly as good as quarterback obviously too, 908 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 3: and our beer had one report about who the chief 909 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: Chiefs have been calling about moving up and these are 910 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 3: usually right. These are the types of pre draft reports 911 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 3: that I'd like to hear a guy like Breer on 912 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 3: who the Chiefs are calling because other teams are telling 913 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 3: them this Zay Flowers or Jamiir Gibbs. So they're kind 914 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: of like looking at some offensive weapons to add and. 915 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: They the Chiefs went out of their way to have 916 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 2: Zay Flowers spend a day working out with Patrick Mahomes 917 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: last Wednesday, and there's a lot of smoke there and 918 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: that would be a very intriguing match to me. 919 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: He's a better version of Kadarius Tony or a different 920 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: but more complete version. 921 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: And the yeah, the Jalen Carter Seattle stuff is you know, 922 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 1: I sometimes it's like, especially when you get to this process, 923 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: when you're this close to the draft, it becomes like, Yeah, 924 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: that's who they're gonna take. And there's logic to it 925 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: because this is exactly the type of prospect that Seattle 926 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: in the past. Oh, there's some character issues, Uh, we 927 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: believe the person, there's more to the person than that. 928 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: We know how to handle those situations. We want this 929 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: high level talent that we think we can help become 930 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: a pro. That's Jalen Carter in a nutshell, that's what 931 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: teams are hoping will happen, and Seattle just happens to 932 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: be in the spot of the draft where he would 933 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: come off the ball. And yet it's like sometimes it's 934 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: like it's so logical that people just kind of like 935 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: bank it and move on with their draft, and it's like, 936 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: we don't know what they actually think or what they 937 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: especially at quarterback, what they think about the future of 938 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: that position. They have the fifth pick, this is a 939 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: huge opportunity for that organization coming off a playoff season 940 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: to take a lottery QB. It's gonna be tough to 941 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: pass on that. 942 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 3: I am now crossing out one of my go get 943 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 3: my lunches. I have options, but it just seems too 944 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 3: vanilla that I had either the Seahawks, the Seahawks taking 945 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 3: Richardson or Carter at five, that it would definitely be 946 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 3: one of those two, and that team one seems too 947 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 3: milk toast. Now I'm just throwing the whole okay, because 948 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 3: those because I even with you, I think Seahawks like big, 949 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 3: physical freaks who task well, and to me, Richardson and 950 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: Carter are that and and they've been productive. 951 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a break and do some Sangwich props. Alright, 952 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: we're back. Uh, let's see here. Oh, it's a tradition 953 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: that goes back literally a decade. Go get my Sangwige 954 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: ass bag. This is when we challenge each other with 955 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: predictions toward whether it's some Super Bowl or free agency 956 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: or obviously the draft. Here, we're gonna get get it 957 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: one right and get other people to disagree with you, 958 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: because it makes it that much better if you can 959 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: hit a prediction. That's the gold standard here. When you 960 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: hit a prediction and then everyone else says, no, you're wrong, 961 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: it's a double w Yeah, I think. 962 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 2: You've failed when you offer something that everyone's like, yeah, 963 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 2: we all think that's gonna happen too, and no one 964 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: takes you up. You kind of failed in this exercise. 965 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: And Greg, you and I have a real back and 966 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: forth in the standings as a look, I've recently overtaken you, 967 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: but it's very close. So I'm two seventeen and one 968 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: ninety one all time stupid. 969 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 3: We should really we should reset in the interest of 970 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 3: Mark at some point, we should just like start. 971 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: Over but he's not going to change his way of 972 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: doing it. Nobody could start over the intest nothing. I'm 973 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 1: not in first place. 974 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 3: I'll give you you in the first ten years, and 975 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 3: now we start the next ten years. Competition by the way, 976 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 3: taking myself a grave for there it is, who was 977 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 3: your first incredible who was your first guy like Ryan. 978 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Nick Fortier, who's been an incredible asset to us 979 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: through the years. Go get my Lunch dot Org. 980 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 3: Kind of got buried in a big spot in this episode. 981 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 2: Sorry, was getting mentioned six or seven times. 982 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: The we We always make sure to bring it up 983 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: because he's been running that site for so long. It's 984 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: also soundboard over there and all sorts of fun ATM history. 985 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: And yes, Greg, I don't believe that we should reset 986 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: the standings for whatever reason you were saying, because that 987 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: the history is rich. As Colleen Wolfan's. 988 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 3: Right, we wouldn't delete the website. I feel like Mark 989 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: quietly bombed out. It wasn't quiet the first two years 990 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 3: we did it, and ever since then, he's actually been 991 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 3: the same. He's been about the same as all of us. 992 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 2: So early on, I used to not take you guys 993 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 2: up on stuff a lot, and so I because we're 994 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: all so relatively terrible at it, h that you just 995 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: take everything. But I'll throw some rockets into the distance. 996 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: So do it anyway, even though you interrupted me Greg 997 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: to ask for the reset. Here are the standings. I'm 998 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: at fifty three point one percent, you're fifty two point 999 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: seven at two thirteen and one ninety one. And Mark, 1000 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: I think you, like, if you could ever get back 1001 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 1: to five hundred twelve point six percent, I'm saying you're 1002 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: forty six point seven, one eight and two oh five. 1003 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think, to Greg's points, get to five hundred. 1004 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 2: At this point, I probably got to nail about seventy 1005 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 2: two in a row, never happening you would have. 1006 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: I think you twenty five in a row. But that's 1007 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 1: not the way to look at it. You gotta start, 1008 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: You gotta kind of chip away at this and by 1009 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: about twenty forty eight or so, yeah, you might be 1010 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: knocking on the door. 1011 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 3: I mean, how ridiculous is it, though, that we've been 1012 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 3: doing this for over ten years. We have the exact 1013 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 3: number of losses the same Dan one ninety one, you 1014 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 3: have four more, and so this is like a race 1015 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 3: that is the equivalent of four like three baseball seasons, 1016 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 3: and we're still only two games apart. 1017 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: Like it's a week to chase for the agent. 1018 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 3: So we can sweep and I'm back in first. 1019 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: Well, that's what's coming up. You got a big weekend 1020 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: coming up here, so let's get into it. 1021 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: Say three is very rich here, let's definitely pitch things. 1022 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: Is three times a baseball season, three times its normal length. 1023 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: All right, nailed it. Let's see, all right, who wants 1024 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 1: to start? Somebody else? Start? 1025 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 3: I'll throw out one. How about let's go. Tyree Wilson 1026 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,959 Speaker 3: is the first defensive player taken in the twenty twenty 1027 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: three draft, just like the start with like a. 1028 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: A palate cleanser or a table cetter. 1029 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 3: Just like something with Tyre Wilson is a name with 1030 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 3: I don't think it's come up much, just tech edge 1031 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 3: in our programming. Not as productive over the course of 1032 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 3: his career, but just feels like the type of big 1033 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 3: swing that NFL teams like to make over a guy 1034 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 3: like Williamson who's maybe not quite the ceiling but has 1035 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 3: been very productive. 1036 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 2: I will take you. But I think that there's a 1037 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: little bit of a fly in the ointment. I've hearing 1038 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 2: a lot of reporting around this as well, just rumors, 1039 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 2: but Will Anderson is from Alabama. Demiko Ryans is from Alabama. 1040 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 2: They have talked about Will Anderson is not only like 1041 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 2: a once in a generation player, but a person and 1042 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 2: the kind of person that you build a new defense around. 1043 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 2: So I guess it would just be a little bit 1044 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 2: upstream for Dimigo Ryans to shun the Crimson Tide with 1045 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 2: an elite looking player for the other guy. 1046 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: But you never know. 1047 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 3: Same front office took a Derek Stingley over Sas Gardner. 1048 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 3: Least you're not saying like you got to write the 1049 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 3: book on Stingley, that's unfair to him. But well, I 1050 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 3: think if you're doing the redraft, Sace Gardner should be 1051 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 3: number one to the Jaguards right now. 1052 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 2: Let's see this front office. If it's Nick Cassario's even 1053 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 2: here two weeks from. 1054 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: Non uh yeah, if Trayvon Walker doesn't have a big 1055 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: year too, that's gonna be one of the to me anyway, 1056 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: in the years we've been doing this weird first overall picks. Ever, 1057 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: so I didn't feel like anybody was ever like over 1058 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: the moon about him through it the whole process, just like, yeah, 1059 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: he's got a lot upside, a lot of toolsy. He 1060 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: could be a big time player. And then you had 1061 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 1: these other guys that were very clearly ready to roll, 1062 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: and Detroit and the Jets, and I guess Stingley, you know, 1063 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: we'll see about him. 1064 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 3: But well, as Daniel Jeremiah's explained it, he says he 1065 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 3: doesn't think any other team like twenty team the top 1066 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 3: twenty would have taken Walker first. That it was just 1067 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 3: the Jaguars. 1068 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: So weird. Yes, what is that? Yeah? Very strange, very strange. 1069 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: All right, anyway, let's go I will go with all right, 1070 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: so I don't think, well, let me start with something 1071 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: that's I don't know who was responsible. 1072 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 3: For these things, but wit, did you take me up 1073 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 3: on that? 1074 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh sorry, yes I do. Okay, that's important for 1075 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: Nick forty eight to know. It's essential Nick. I don't 1076 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: know who how it works, although I'd love to know 1077 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: the mechanics behind it all. I'm guessing some type of 1078 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: front office figure sends an email to the social media 1079 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: department and instructs them to send out a tweet. With 1080 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: this message, you can get some inspirational, powerful backing music here. 1081 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 1: This from the Houston Texans sent at exactly six am today, 1082 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: so time stamped four for the start of draft week. 1083 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: Failure is not an option, It's a necessity. 1084 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 2: Every misstep imagine that was it, great failures of necessity? 1085 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 6: Yes, okay, every misstep is a lesson learned, every setback 1086 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 6: a chance to grow stronger, embrace the struggle, and become unstumbable. 1087 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 1: Well, they sent it out. Who was behind this, Casaria? 1088 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,919 Speaker 2: I thought they got rid of the guy that would 1089 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 2: have sent something like that out. That's filled hilt very 1090 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: Jack Eastern, Yeah. 1091 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: With with just the word forward period anyway, So. 1092 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 3: I mean the font too, is very cam Newton. 1093 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: Like. 1094 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 3: I do not think Nick Cassario is asking for this, No, 1095 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 3: I don't. 1096 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: I the font was like ripped from like Taylor Swift's 1097 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: like reputation era. I'm not sure what's going on here, 1098 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: but anyway, I'm gonna try to piece it together. Okay. Hm. 1099 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: That sounds like a team that's looking to make a 1100 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: big statement this week, and I obviously they are. Everybody's 1101 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: not going to make a big stakement, but the Texans especially, 1102 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: It's the last two years have been lost years for 1103 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: the organization, dating back from really the day that Deshaun 1104 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: Watson said, I'm I want out, and then everything that 1105 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: followed and two head coaches won and done, and just 1106 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: no sense that the organization's making any forward progress. This 1107 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: is the year where it's supposed to start over in 1108 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: a real tangible way. And that's why I don't think 1109 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: that the Texans have the guts to pass on a 1110 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: QBA too. And there's so much smoke now saying they're 1111 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: looking to get out of the pick or they're not 1112 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,959 Speaker 1: a big fan of CJ. Stroud. So I'm not saying 1113 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: that they're gonna take CJ. Stroud because I do put 1114 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: some something more into this fact that maybe he's a 1115 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: round one dropper and we'll see if that works out 1116 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: or works against teams that pass on CJ. Strod. But 1117 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: I think they stay it too, and I think they 1118 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: take a quarterback. 1119 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 3: Okay, so both of those things have to happen. They 1120 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 3: can't trade back up to three and take a quarterback. 1121 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to to muck it up. 1122 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: That would be that would suck if if they trade 1123 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: back one spot and take a QB but stay it 1124 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 1: to and go to quarter pay it to nice and simple. 1125 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: I could put in a bunch of caveats there compendiums 1126 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: if you will justin, but I will not. I'll just 1127 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: say they stay home and take the QB and they 1128 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: start over. 1129 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: I'll take you on it. A paiswell with Greg's. I mean, 1130 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: I feel like if they really wanted to make a 1131 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 2: big move and trade out of that place, then you 1132 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: just you completely deny and and don't allow anything to 1133 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 2: get out there that suggests you might go other than 1134 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 2: quarterback and have a quarterback bump down the board. 1135 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't. 1136 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't kind of love what's coming out of Texas 1137 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 2: if that's what's happening with the Texans. 1138 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: But I with you. 1139 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 2: I do feel that the Demiko Ryans is a big 1140 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 2: part of this. I think Nicosio who opened his press 1141 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: conference last week weirdly saying like I'm not leaving after 1142 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 2: this draft, which was no one asked the question. It 1143 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 2: was just sort of said, point blank, okay. It's like 1144 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 2: there's clearly something going on here where I think Dimigo 1145 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 2: Ryans is running the show and I think he's gonna 1146 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,439 Speaker 2: want to guy pick the guy that start to start 1147 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 2: his defense with. 1148 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: But I'll still take you. Do you think Demiko that 1149 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: linebacker blood? Do you think maybe Demiko is responsible for 1150 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: that quote. 1151 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 2: Well, it feels it feels very coach speak, doesn't it, 1152 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 2: or athlete coach speak. 1153 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 3: I feel like that's a social employee who's like. 1154 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 2: Social media guy just went went nuts with that on 1155 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 2: their own and sent it out. 1156 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: Wild. 1157 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 3: I mean, if failure is in this, I mean the 1158 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 3: texted you've covered like you did it, you did it 1159 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 3: a few years ago. Home we do it that first verse, right, 1160 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: that was fine if you if every misstep there's a 1161 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 3: lesson learned, like you have learned the most amount of lessons. 1162 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 3: Let's let's win a ball game. That's a good one 1163 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 3: because I I kind of agree with you, and yet 1164 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 3: I just feel like I can't not take it out 1165 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 3: of principle, So I'm just gonna take it really solid. 1166 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: Stanza overall, I thought you got me. It's a good one, 1167 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 1: all right? 1168 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 6: Uh? 1169 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, all right, pick us. 1170 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 2: This may be why I don't farewell in this contest. 1171 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 2: But this is something that I believe very strongly will 1172 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 2: happen by the start of the season. But I'm just 1173 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 2: gonna say it happens during the draft that by the 1174 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 2: time we get to the end of the draft. Mac 1175 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 2: Jones is no longer a New England Patriot, and I 1176 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 2: think that all along this could be a world where 1177 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 2: we keep trying to stick Tom Brady with the Raiders 1178 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 2: that I think that if you are Josh McDaniels and 1179 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 2: you worked really well with Mac Jones and you see 1180 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 2: real potential there that a Mac Jones Jimmy g scenario 1181 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 2: might work. All I'm saying, though, that's a potential landing 1182 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: spot is that Mac Jones will not be a Patriot 1183 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 2: by the final pick of the draft. 1184 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 1: Right into the final pick of the draft. 1185 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,320 Speaker 3: You know, me and Mark are just Sharon, uh yeah, Sharon. 1186 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 2: Well the things the ability I love this down during 1187 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 2: the season we laughed it off, is like all this 1188 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 2: stuff that's happening is not enough to get rid of him. 1189 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 2: I think that what we've heard since the end of 1190 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 2: the regular season with New England and how that went, 1191 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 2: and you hear Robert Craft's words and what Mac Jones 1192 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 2: has had to say, and Bill Belichick really coolly on 1193 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 2: Mac Jones from where he was an off season ago. 1194 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: We talked about how much he grew and this little. 1195 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: Bailey zappy thing mixed in with the fact that I 1196 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 2: think they want to draft someone else and start over 1197 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 2: and give Bell Belichick another chance to get young at 1198 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,879 Speaker 2: quarterback in one last yeah effort here. I think Mac 1199 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 2: Jones it just something doesn't seem right. 1200 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: He'll take you on it. I think, Uh, I don't 1201 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: like that Bailly z Appy. He keeps coming up in 1202 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: this as if he's a major factor in this. I don't. 1203 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: I think it's see enough of him to think that 1204 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: that he's a starter. 1205 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 2: I think it's used more like when he talks about 1206 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 2: when he's talking about Billy Zappi even during the season, 1207 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 2: was like he does everything he's asked. It's like it 1208 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 2: sounded like a Bill Belichick type of guy almost in 1209 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 2: a way to say like, Matt Jones isn't giving me 1210 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 2: this experience. 1211 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 1: Oh it was Tom Kern, who we trust with Patriots stuff, 1212 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: who did verify or second that report that Belichick was 1213 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: pissed that mac Jones went outside the organization during the 1214 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: season to try to get tips how to fix the 1215 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: the offense that Matt Patricia was in part running. I 1216 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: believe that I believe that Belichick was angry that he 1217 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: would do that, and that I think Belichick it's not 1218 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: Belichick's style for his quarterback to be and I think 1219 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: this is part of who mac Jones' personality wise, to 1220 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: be very adamant and vocal in showing that he was 1221 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: unhappy during games last season. I think that's a bad 1222 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: look for a player when you're in Belichick's building. That said, 1223 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: the owner is continuously speaking positively of mac Jones still, 1224 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 1: and I think right now where the team sits, it's 1225 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 1: the owner who has the upper hand. The owner always 1226 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: has the upper hand, let's face it, but especially now, 1227 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: I think there's a little of a power struggle there. 1228 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: And I think mac Jones getting moved is a Bill 1229 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: Belichick win if this would happen, And I don't think 1230 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's is winning anything internally. This offen. I'll take 1231 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: you on it, all right. 1232 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 2: But what if Casario, who knows Belichick so well, Like, 1233 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 2: what if there's a world where the this is a 1234 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 2: typical draft stuff for New England, but they're just going 1235 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 2: for it. They're gonna get up into that top three 1236 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 2: or four and get a different quarterback, then Mac Jones 1237 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 2: is old news in New England and you move them 1238 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: for whatever you can get. 1239 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 3: Well, Houston would be as likely a place to put 1240 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 3: him as any I can't find the team that's gonna 1241 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 3: go for him though, and that that would be a 1242 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: tough sell I think for the Texans and their fans 1243 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 3: that like, no way it came up. 1244 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: With this as your own. 1245 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 2: We didn't draft two, Yeah, so someone you must have 1246 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 2: someone in mind that they would. 1247 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 3: I don't know who I'm I think it's like less 1248 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 3: than fifty to fifty. So I'll take you up on it, 1249 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 3: but I was just gonna throw it out because it's 1250 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 3: a it's a fun one. I don't I just don't 1251 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 3: know who that team is. Maybe it's the Ravens, like 1252 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 3: that doesn't really make sense to me. I think they're 1253 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 3: pretty in on this is one more year with with 1254 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. So you just kind of go through the 1255 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 3: list and you don't see like a logical landing spot 1256 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 3: for mac Jones. 1257 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: Uh. But I'll mark Allons takes on a little water though. 1258 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 2: You going, but he literally came I had it with 1259 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: what was gonna be one of my maybe I had 1260 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: I had some options. 1261 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 3: I've just got to take you up on it because 1262 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 3: it just seems like that's. 1263 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: Sort of like a tepid high five though. That's like that. 1264 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 3: Which is weird in itself, is kind of clammy, Like 1265 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 3: I like that. 1266 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: That's that's not what I wanted to hear. All right, 1267 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: you got another one. 1268 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go say all four of the 1269 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 3: top quarterbacks I'm not including Hendon Hooker here, just just 1270 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,439 Speaker 3: to be as clear as possible, go in the top ten. 1271 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 3: So after all this talk, someone's gonna fallow blah blah blah. 1272 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 3: But now none of it happens. This is very rare 1273 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 3: that four quarterbacks go that high. In general, we think 1274 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are gonna go like a little higher than they 1275 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 3: end up doing. Hence, like mac Jones slipped to fifteen, 1276 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 3: a lot of times that third or fourth guy falls 1277 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 3: a little further than you expect. It happened to justin 1278 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 3: fields too. But I say it doesn't happen this time. 1279 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 3: There's too many options in the top ten or I 1280 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 3: think you could even trade to about ten. And so 1281 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 3: I say all four quarterbacks go in the top ten. 1282 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 3: It'll be decided nice and early on our live stream 1283 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 3: that everyone needs to watch on you. 1284 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: Maybe we can get a former NFL quarterback in our 1285 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 1: We're going to be not in this room, but in 1286 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: a different area of NFL Media for our live stream. 1287 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: Our Round one live stream a pm Eastern five pm Pacific, 1288 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: all thirty one picks of the first round. We will 1289 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: be just hanging around chopping it up, dudes, being bros, 1290 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: with some special surprises along the way. 1291 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 2: But you're seting, you're suggesting maybe we would snag an 1292 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 2: ex NFL quarterback to come. 1293 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Talk with us, especially if four qbs enter our league 1294 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: and ten picks to start things off, Like, how could 1295 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: you say it's a boring draft if that's happening, I mean, 1296 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, anyway, So you're saying young obviously, Stroud, Richardson and. 1297 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 3: In the top ten, top ten, I'll take you. 1298 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 2: I think it's very possible though, because I think Tennessee 1299 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 2: would be a real candidate to move up. 1300 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, i'll take you. 1301 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 3: Let's do some breaking news. This is not your average 1302 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 3: everyday breaking news. Let's hear it. 1303 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Justin Gray, thank you on that Nick fourt here. 1304 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 3: Ian Rappaport says, it's happened. It's over. Aaron Rodgers is 1305 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 3: going to the New York Jets. What the Jets? 1306 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: What? 1307 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Rogers pick number fifteen and a fifth round pick, so 1308 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 3: they're only moving down two in the first round, the 1309 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 3: Packers get number thirteen. They move up two picks. They 1310 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 3: get a twenty twenty three this year second round pick, 1311 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 3: that's number forty two, a sixth round pick, and a 1312 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 3: conditional second next year that becomes a first if Rogers 1313 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 3: plays sixty five percent of the plays, which is pretty 1314 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 3: darn likely to happen. So the Packers get their to firsts. 1315 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 3: For Aaron Rodgers, it's. 1316 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Happened, Dan, Thank god, I could, I mean, thank god? 1317 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,959 Speaker 2: This is that, this happened. This is your birthday present. 1318 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 2: It was your birthday, ye it was. It was my 1319 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 2: birthday yesterday. 1320 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 1: And this was something that has been dragging out for 1321 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: god well over a month at this point, ever since 1322 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the Pat mcavie episode. Let's just go through this again. 1323 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: So it's the deal includes a second rounder this year, 1324 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: So the Jets had back to back second round picks. 1325 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I believe it's forty one and forty two. 1326 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 3: Packers get the second one, and I. 1327 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Think Packers are picking forty five also, So now the 1328 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 1: Packers pick forty two and forty five the Jets. So 1329 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 1: the Jets keep their first round pick, but they swap it. Yeah, 1330 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: they've swapped it. 1331 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 3: So they're going to move back two spots, which is 1332 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 3: something no one really brought up. Now it seems obvious 1333 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 3: that that's like one little extra thing the Packers got it. 1334 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 2: It's a bit of an upset that they can get 1335 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 2: another first next year based off it seemed like this 1336 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 2: was heading towards like who would ever give the Packers 1337 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 2: that at this point for Aaron Rodgers. 1338 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Well they still so they still have their first round 1339 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: pick this year. They just moved back two spots, right, yes, 1340 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: and they can get the first rounder if Rogers hits 1341 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 1: that playing time bump in twenty four, which doesn't, that's 1342 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: a disaster. It well, it depends on what happens this 1343 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: year obviously. I mean it's everything is kind of built 1344 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: to me up to this being now a team that 1345 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: can make a run with Rogers a QB, which is 1346 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm on record obviously, so you have to get hurt. 1347 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 3: It's it's the sixty five percent of plaze this season, 1348 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 3: so this year as long as he's disaster if he doesn't. 1349 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: And I guess okay, yes, okay, I thought it was 1350 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: next year. Okay, now it makes sense. 1351 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 2: Okay, but when you say that, like the idea that 1352 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 2: could trigger a first next year from the Jets is 1353 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 2: more than what people had been verbalizing in recent weeks, 1354 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 2: because it sounded like Joe Douglas is not gonna that's 1355 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 2: what they were budging on. 1356 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: They're not going to give that up. 1357 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 3: It's a little more than I expected the Jets to 1358 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 3: have to give up. I just thought the conditions would 1359 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 3: have been less likely. I thought it was gonna be like, 1360 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 3: if he retires, you don't get the first. If he's 1361 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 3: on the team into twenty twenty four, then then it's 1362 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 3: a first. But that's it sort of splitting hairs. I 1363 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 3: think it's a great deal for Green Bay ultimately, that 1364 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 3: you get a second and a first, you get the 1365 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 3: two spots is nice. I think that's really good because 1366 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 3: because for them, I just feel like it really was time. 1367 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 3: I know it's a downgrade to go from Rogers to 1368 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, but I think all things considered, they have 1369 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 3: to be happy with how they're kind of extricating themselves 1370 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 3: from this. It really wasn't that mess, and they get 1371 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 3: a very fair return for him. 1372 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if I had my choice in this, I 1373 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,439 Speaker 1: would want that to be a higher bar to clear 1374 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: than sixty five percent of the snaps. But at the 1375 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 1: same time, he's a Jet, and now they go into 1376 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 1: this season, one of the more important seasons in the 1377 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: history of the organization, and they're going to have Rogers, 1378 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: who I think based on his track record, the fact 1379 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 1: that yes he's entering his age thirty nine season, but 1380 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 1: for all the things I've talked about before, I think 1381 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: he's going to be very good this year. I think 1382 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 1: this team is obviously going to be vastly improved if 1383 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: he stays healthy on offense, and then I trust solid 1384 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: the defense if they're not even if they're not as 1385 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 1: good as last year, to be a strong defense, and 1386 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: you put it all together, and I think they are 1387 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: now firmly in the mix now in the AOC, and 1388 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm just so I'm so excited that the worst case scenario, 1389 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: which was this dragging through the summer, this becoming a 1390 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 1: situation where maybe another team does sneak into the negotiations 1391 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the Jets are running out 1392 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson in training camp. All that stuff is out 1393 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 1: the window now and you just can you can look 1394 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 1: forward at a bright horizon in terms of hope in 1395 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: the Metal Lands. I'm really excited about this. 1396 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 2: I almost hope that they are giving up a first 1397 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 2: next year because it tells you things went right and 1398 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 2: there is a variance here, because you what version of 1399 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers do you get? 1400 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: I trust that you're going to get a good one. 1401 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 2: And their offense is pretty much set to go, and 1402 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 2: there were these other worlds, parallel universes where New York 1403 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 2: failed to get Rogers and you are stuck with one 1404 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 2: of the worst chapters in Jets history. 1405 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: They didn't have a backup play, right, they would all 1406 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: over their face. 1407 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 2: That's kind of what I love about Joe Douglas though, 1408 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 2: because he has to be a huge reason why this happened, 1409 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 2: because when you want to do something in life, you 1410 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 2: cut all their options out, you just go for it. 1411 01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: And they made it happen. 1412 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 2: And the Jets, like the Jets fan base, has never 1413 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 2: been in this situation if you are a certain age, 1414 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 2: if you're your age. 1415 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 3: The photoshops of Rogers in a Jets uniform, it just 1416 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 3: looks wild to me. 1417 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen so many now over the 1418 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 1: last six weeks, and I'm I'm already used to it. 1419 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 1: As weird as that as that seems the next question, 1420 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know, does he does Jo Namath give 1421 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: up his number twelve? These are all fun kind of 1422 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: team things, and I will not I have to say it. 1423 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're gonna now say it's sixty five 1424 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: percent of snaps. Okay, So what's that like? If he 1425 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 1: stays healthy and he. 1426 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 3: Basically if he plays twelve or thirteen, if. 1427 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: It's if it's week twelve and they're a huge bust 1428 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: and it's a terrible season, would I put it past 1429 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: the organization to put him on the bench. Yeah, check 1430 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 1: you later. I mean if he doesn't play well. 1431 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but in that scenario, everyone's fired. 1432 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying if they I'm just saying what 1433 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: people making the decisions. 1434 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 3: I like, only Woody Dotson could make that decision, and 1435 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,080 Speaker 3: it would have to because it went so spectacular, right. 1436 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm not saying this on behalf of 1437 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: anyone else in the building, as like a Jet fan 1438 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 1: like saying like how does this? What are the different 1439 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: outcomes of this? Would they potentially, if things really were 1440 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: off the rails, go down that way to save the 1441 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: first round pick. 1442 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 3: Now, they'd have to be three and seven. That's just 1443 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 3: the fatalist. 1444 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: They're getting fired anyways, so it's that's what I mean. 1445 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 3: What I mean is like Woody Johnson is firing everyone 1446 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 3: and insisting on that, and for them to be that 1447 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 3: bad would be hard to imagine. They have to be 1448 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 3: three and seven. 1449 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: I just have to say it and listen, Gregy, like 1450 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm a fatalist at times as a Jets fan, as 1451 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 1: all Jets fans are, you have to say, Okay, how 1452 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 1: does what's the worst case scenario? Here? There it is, 1453 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 1: and then they would still have some recourse if they 1454 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to give up a first round pick that said, oh, 1455 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 1: by the way, if they were three and seven, that's 1456 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 1: a high first round pick potentially, yeah, going, And then 1457 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, there's all sorts of things. But I'm not 1458 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: even get all that energy. That is just stuff they 1459 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: needed to be brought up for a second. And but 1460 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,479 Speaker 1: I'm very happy. I wish I could talk to my dad. 1461 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: My dad is in Budapest now on a look at him, 1462 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 1: on a trip with deb and my my uncle and 1463 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: my aunt. I don't know when he's going to get 1464 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: this news. It's not like my sixty nine year old 1465 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: father is uh, you know, all over social media. I 1466 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 1: don't know when he'll find out. He might not find 1467 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 1: out for days. Wow, Oh he'll find out. I don't know. 1468 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 2: If you can't text him, it's should I what's app him? 1469 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 4: I have your dad's commenting on it on Aaron Rodgers 1470 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 4: right now if you let's hear it, sure live and exclusive. 1471 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 7: My feeling when Aaron Rodgers is that you know, when 1472 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 7: things are going good, you know he's missed a good guy. Well, 1473 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 7: when things are not going so good, he is certainly 1474 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 7: not the same guy that you see on the sidelines 1475 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 7: that's frowning at people and looking looking the other way, the. 1476 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 1: Old man that lays blame on others, that's right. 1477 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 7: And also the the way he handled the coach last year, uh, 1478 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 7: not listening to the play calls McCarthy and Mike McCarthy 1479 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 7: and treating him terribly shows me that I just don't 1480 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 7: think he's the kind of man that you know that 1481 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 7: everyone talks about. 1482 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 1: Hellos, did you guys have that one in the chamber? 1483 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 3: I randomly was looking for something completely different this morning. 1484 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 3: It was as if it was in the start I 1485 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 3: was looking for him saying that Matt Lafore, Mike Lafloor 1486 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 3: I can't. I mean, I lose the Bearded boy was 1487 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 3: the bearded Little Boys. I went back to that episode 1488 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 3: and listened on the way in and that wasn't in 1489 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 3: the show, but that little clip was, and I said, 1490 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 3: let's clip that for whenever the news. Let's also wish 1491 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 3: Dan a happy birthday. We got this done during the show. 1492 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: This was the. 1493 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 3: President that we got for Dan Hansas that we've been worried. 1494 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 3: This news is all off season and here this is 1495 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 3: very nice. 1496 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, my dad is not of Aaron Rodgers fans, 1497 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: never has, so I am curious what his thoughts are. 1498 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: But you know what, you know what, you know what, 1499 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Keith's not a fan of Zach Wilson like all Jets fans. 1500 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,679 Speaker 2: So I think if you're Keith, are your anyone who 1501 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 2: was a little bit miffed with the Aaron Rodgers experience, 1502 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 2: you gotta just like it's part of part of the weight. 1503 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: That's fine. And happy birthday? 1504 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,679 Speaker 3: Did how was your birthday? You do anything fun? Spend 1505 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 3: it with the fam, send it with them. Everything appeared 1506 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 3: if you didn't spend it watching what yeah. 1507 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, watching sports? You know a baseball practice was in 1508 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 1: the mix? 1509 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 3: Uh, your knicks are giving you a present. 1510 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: The Knicks given me a gift. Do you feel tangibly older? 1511 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: I guess I mean no, I wouldn't say I feel 1512 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: tangibly older right now. In fact, I feel a little 1513 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,680 Speaker 1: younger right now. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback of 1514 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 1: the Jets. That's a big relief. I didn't want to 1515 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: even take this into the draft. 1516 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 3: So that's huge, you know. 1517 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 1: And we'll say if it works out, and I know 1518 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation and all this will blow 1519 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 1: up in their face. I hear it. It's certainly possible, 1520 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: but back off. Let let judge fans enjoy this moment 1521 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: and and hope for the Jets fan base this guy 1522 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 1: can still play the guitar. Sppsif be Ken look out. 1523 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 3: You had to make a move. That was to try 1524 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 3: to take advantage of the roster they have right now, 1525 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,679 Speaker 3: because you don't know how long it's going to stay together. 1526 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 3: And to that point, never didn't trade Corey Davis kind 1527 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,799 Speaker 3: of thought he was going to be in this trade. 1528 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 3: We'll see maybe he's he's not on the roster, but 1529 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,759 Speaker 3: this puts sort of a window on them with Rogers 1530 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 3: of like, I mean, this puts a window with Rogers 1531 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,320 Speaker 3: obviously for the next couple of years. But giving away 1532 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 3: this sort of draft, these sort of draft assets, you know, 1533 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 3: it just makes it more about right now and to 1534 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 3: the to the Packers point, Like Goody's handled this all well, 1535 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,559 Speaker 3: but like now is the hard part. If you want 1536 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 3: to be Ted Thompson, you got to hit these picks. 1537 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 3: They didn't do anything in free agency this year, and 1538 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 3: it puts a lot of pressure that they got to 1539 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,839 Speaker 3: start hitting with these picks. So they have pick thirteen, 1540 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 3: they have an extra second, and they'll have the pick 1541 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 3: next year. But like, he needs to start nailing this 1542 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 3: or else he's gonna be the guy that traded away 1543 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and didn't make it happen. 1544 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 1: I wonder if what the domino effect is in the 1545 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 1: AFC East, as you know, does this cause the Patriots 1546 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 1: to be think to them, although we all kind of 1547 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: expected this to be the outcome and now officially appears 1548 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 1: to be the case, do they feel good about going 1549 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 1: into a season playing in a division that has Aaron 1550 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Josh Allen in it. 1551 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I've just told you they're gonna make a 1552 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 2: massive move at quarterback. I have a Sandwich prompt potentially 1553 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 2: Tom Brady in it that. 1554 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:26,439 Speaker 1: Ties into this. 1555 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 2: You'll always have your chance. I did not know this 1556 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 2: was going to happen, obviously, but I think that the 1557 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 2: Packers will draft a combination of at least after all 1558 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 2: they did to Aaron Rodgers with a draft and no 1559 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 2: freatency of at least four wide receivers and tight ends 1560 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 2: to make Jordan Love to. 1561 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 1: Send them up for success. 1562 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 3: Four. 1563 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 2: I mean, this doesn't happen that often, by the way, 1564 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 2: and they have a couple of wide receivers they like 1565 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 2: that are young, but tight end I could see it, 1566 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 2: and I think you go with a combination of four 1567 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 2: of them so that you can tell everyone we're going 1568 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,599 Speaker 2: to do right by Jordan Love versus leaving them out 1569 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 2: at sea. 1570 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: Four is a lot. You know. 1571 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 3: The Packers used to do that with Ted time, since 1572 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 3: that would be another callback where they would take two 1573 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,160 Speaker 3: or three at the same position, especially receiver, in the 1574 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 3: same draft. Four is a lot. I'll have to uh, 1575 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 3: I'll have to take. 1576 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 1: You on that. Yeah, I'll take you on that. For sure. 1577 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 3: They do have four. 1578 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 1: It seems like a lot. Three I would be on 1579 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: the fence four fields like. 1580 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,600 Speaker 3: They have four to seventh round picks. They have two fifths, 1581 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 3: and so it counts if he's oh. 1582 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 1: How many picks do they have overall? 1583 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:29,719 Speaker 3: Uh, that's interesting, two, three, four or five? Ten? 1584 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: I think so it doesn't matter like where it is 1585 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:32,479 Speaker 1: in the draft. 1586 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,560 Speaker 2: Well take I'll myself out of winning it if I do. No, 1587 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,559 Speaker 2: I'm comfortable staying right there. I think that's like that 1588 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 2: that's a big investment because you already have a couple 1589 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 2: of young leaders. 1590 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Well, they have twelve picks. That's a lot of picks. 1591 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 3: You would think they're going to take some tries at 1592 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,720 Speaker 3: I'm not going to take you. I think the over 1593 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 3: under probably would be about three, so it's a little 1594 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:54,680 Speaker 3: over that, so I'm going to take it. 1595 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 1: I will pass on this one. Actually cool just because 1596 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 1: there's so many picks, like you're gonna get take guys 1597 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: it like late in the draft that are special teams 1598 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,440 Speaker 1: type of guys that are wide. 1599 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 3: Receivers, especially their team where who don't have any wide receivers. 1600 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 3: I think they'll take a tight I would. I would. 1601 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 3: I won't do this because it's too similar, but I 1602 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 3: would put a sandwich on one of their first three picks. 1603 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 3: It's too boring would be a tight end, Like I 1604 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 3: just almost they I just feel like in this. 1605 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 1: That feels like a home run. 1606 01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm a home run. 1607 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm more saying that it's the it's a diametrically opposed 1608 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 2: to what they just did to Aaron Rodgers three years 1609 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 2: in a row. 1610 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 3: But if they if they didn't take one in the 1611 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 3: first round, it would be. 1612 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 1: Say So, what I'm saying is what's tricky about this 1613 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 1: prop I think mark is that it's kind of like, 1614 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 1: what if I make it five? Well, no, I'm saying 1615 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 1: like if if you no, I'm just saying, if you're saying, 1616 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 1: this is going to be kind of a statement draft 1617 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,600 Speaker 1: from them, if it was like they're taking it in 1618 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,120 Speaker 1: the first three rounds two to three players, I just 1619 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 1: feel like, but if you're gonna say five, I'll take you. 1620 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 2: No, I'm not playing this. You're perfectly welcome to not 1621 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 2: take it. 1622 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't care. Okay, yeah you said it, though you 1623 01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 1: said five. 1624 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 2: It's going through a verbal machination with myself, but I 1625 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,560 Speaker 2: know it said you're just sweetening the pocket. 1626 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 3: Said their first pick was the receiver or a tight end, 1627 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,919 Speaker 3: which I actually think it will What about. 1628 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,600 Speaker 2: Two of the first three. I think it will be 1629 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 2: a tight end. I don't think anyone's taking that either 1630 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 2: because two of the first four. 1631 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 1: No, I'm not. 1632 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 2: I'm not revising it. Okay, then I won't take it 1633 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 2: on any level. 1634 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: So because I just the spirit of it is that 1635 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 1: they're going to be aggressive. It is the spirit of draft. Yes, 1636 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,639 Speaker 1: I think that's the spirit of it. But you could 1637 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,679 Speaker 1: lose the wager in the back end of the draft 1638 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 1: when it's not really about building up weapons. You don't care, 1639 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 1: got it? All? Right? Uh? This one real quick? Because 1640 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't care about anything else right now. The Titans 1641 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 1: we mentioned it. I believe between now and in the 1642 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: next fortnight two weeks, Tan Hill and Henry will both 1643 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,479 Speaker 1: be moved in trades. Oh, triggering the full on rebuild. 1644 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 1: That makes too much sense in my mind, and it's 1645 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 1: been speculated on endlessly. I think there's obviously they're holding 1646 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 1: their car the cards close to the vest, but I 1647 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,479 Speaker 1: just think that's you know, teams also or trying to 1648 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: figure out their draft boards. And if say one of 1649 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 1: these teams that really wants a running back, they don't 1650 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,600 Speaker 1: get it, they're gonna call up the Titans back. What 1651 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,639 Speaker 1: can we give you one of these day two picks 1652 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry and then a team that loses out 1653 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 1: on the q qb roulette here. 1654 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,560 Speaker 3: So that's why you're making it two weeks. 1655 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm I'm kind of just becus. I want 1656 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 1: to make sure it's basically capturing the spirit of it, 1657 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,599 Speaker 1: which is teams come out of the draft not maybe 1658 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,760 Speaker 1: getting what they want or they they want to be 1659 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 1: able to have a fuller look at where their roster's at. 1660 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 1: But I think both of them will be gone. I 1661 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:40,120 Speaker 1: think probably by Saturday. It could happen in the prediction, 1662 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 1: but that's I don't want to hold myself to that. 1663 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:42,719 Speaker 1: That's a little tight. 1664 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 3: How about next Tuesday, because aren't we gonna be going 1665 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 3: aren't you gonna be annoyed? We're gonna go over the 1666 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 3: draft props. 1667 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 1: In this, all right? So for that reason, I will 1668 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,720 Speaker 1: modify it. How About one of the two will be 1669 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 1: moved before Saturday night? 1670 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take you on that. 1671 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,920 Speaker 1: I will too. I think they're open to either. 1672 01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 2: There was the false report that Derrick Henry was going 1673 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,960 Speaker 2: into the Eagles that didn't pan out, But I mean 1674 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 2: he just fits as a if you're a super Bowl 1675 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 2: Window team, and I keep thinking of Buffalo. It's like, 1676 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,559 Speaker 2: what is the price that's too high to go get 1677 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 2: Derek Henry. You're not gonna have to give a first 1678 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,600 Speaker 2: why not Adam to your roster? And you like, but 1679 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 2: if you go get a running back in the draft, 1680 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry becomes a starter. 1681 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 3: I don't quite see it. I think Tannehill's a little 1682 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 3: more likely, or is more likely. I think Dalvin Cook 1683 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,559 Speaker 3: is a guy that could get traded. I think the 1684 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,639 Speaker 3: Judy stuff could still happen. Buddha Baker, maybe you mentioned 1685 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 3: mac Jones. Trey Lance seems unlikely. I can't imagine Derrick Henry. 1686 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,040 Speaker 3: But that's me personally. 1687 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 1: Anybody else have one. 1688 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 3: I do have a trade one, and this, I guess 1689 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:44,360 Speaker 3: would be my about just because it's so specific. So 1690 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say the draft ends with DeAndre Hopkins 1691 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,679 Speaker 3: in Buffalo as the next member of the Buffalo Bills. 1692 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 3: Let's just get specific, which is always trouble. 1693 01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 1: I like that. I'm having trouble focusing right now. I'm 1694 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: reading a lot of the I. 1695 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 3: Mean, it is ridiculous. It's one of the biggest trades 1696 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,720 Speaker 3: in the history of the NFL. He's a how many 1697 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 3: times is it one the four times? Whether maybe four times? 1698 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 3: You just get traded to the Jets. 1699 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm struggling right now with this. Boy. 1700 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Boy, that's fine, we could we could just curtail this, 1701 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,760 Speaker 2: but Greg, I, for the sake of the extras, I'll 1702 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:19,080 Speaker 2: take you. 1703 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 1: It does leave. 1704 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 2: Even if you have a post June one designation, the 1705 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:27,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals are stuck with twenty million in dead money per 1706 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 2: over the cap, and if it's pre June one, I 1707 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 2: mean it's thirty one million. So it's not like I 1708 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 2: don't know what the Cardinals get out of this unless 1709 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 2: they love the pick. 1710 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,719 Speaker 3: Maybe they could restructure the contract. 1711 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you'd have to. 1712 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're hitting me with facts and everything. Does this 1713 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,360 Speaker 3: does seem like an anti climax a little bit after 1714 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was just traded. You're right, Dan, I apologize. 1715 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 1: I'm being upfront with you about this. It's okay. 1716 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 3: I think though, I mean, I. 1717 01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: Don't even I've kind of said what I how I 1718 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 1: feel about it that it's like they gave up that 1719 01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,680 Speaker 1: that first round pick. I wish they would have been 1720 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: able to push back a little further on that. But 1721 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 1: I think part of that is like everybody was like 1722 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 1: it was leverage Gate between the Jets and Packers and 1723 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,599 Speaker 1: who had the leverage. I think ultimately the Jets were 1724 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 1: the more they were they were the ones on the 1725 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 1: defense because they didn't have a plan B and I 1726 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: think they they also wanted to have the you know, 1727 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 1: they wanted to have a clean slate. I don't know. 1728 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I would like to see Aaron Rodgers, for instance, at 1729 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 1: voluntary camp, which he hasn't been doing with the Packers 1730 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 1: for years, and I won't hold my breath for the 1731 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,160 Speaker 1: same reasons. My dad's not a huge fan of Aaron Rodgers, 1732 01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,640 Speaker 1: but like I want to see him all in and 1733 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 1: get that vibe. I want him at camp. I want 1734 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,559 Speaker 1: people flying in Malibu to work out with him. I 1735 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 1: want to if I'm a Jet fan now, I want 1736 01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: to see him have that eye of the tiger and 1737 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,720 Speaker 1: show want to stick it to the Packers a little 1738 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,600 Speaker 1: bit and have a big year for a franchise that 1739 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 1: hasn't had a quarterback in far too long. So they're 1740 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,559 Speaker 1: gonna give up that first round pick next year. I 1741 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: can deal with that. Moving back a little bit in 1742 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 1: the first round this year. I think they're still gonna 1743 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 1: get one of those offensive linemen, which is a lock. 1744 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 1: By the way, I'll do a related one. My last 1745 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 1: one is that they will take an offensive lineman. I 1746 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: was thinking that maybe they would go and try to 1747 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 1: trade up and get Scarnsky there hm, but they don't. 1748 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,759 Speaker 1: Now they're dealing with a little bit of a deficit 1749 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 1: with some of the draft capital. So that would be 1750 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 1: my second one that they'll. 1751 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 3: Take in fifteen. I think you can get a good tackle. 1752 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 4: I had them taking Scaronsky at thirteen. Now my mock 1753 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,599 Speaker 4: draft's all screwed up because they're moving to fifteen. They 1754 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:35,800 Speaker 4: got to redo this whole thing. 1755 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 1: It's gonna They're gonna get Broderick Jones out of Georgia. 1756 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 1: Now that's my that's my onion hanger on. 1757 01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 2: You're saying that the second you're going to the exact guy. 1758 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. 1759 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,799 Speaker 2: I'll take exact guy, wouldn't take I think they're definitely 1760 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,040 Speaker 2: going lineman. I will say I totally agree with you 1761 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 2: about the Aaron Rodgers off like the season workout stuff, 1762 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 2: because for some of that preaches self awareness at an 1763 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 2: endless levels and heights. It would be self aware to 1764 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 2: with the New York media, get off on a good foot, 1765 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,200 Speaker 2: and also just with your own teammates, because I think 1766 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:03,559 Speaker 2: that affected the Packers last year. 1767 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 3: How about Aaron Rodgers versus pretty tough Bill's defense. You 1768 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 3: got Bill Belichick, you got a Dolphins defense. It's pretty good. 1769 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 3: Adding Jalen Ramsey. It's it's a challenge that division is 1770 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 3: going to have so many primetime games this year, and 1771 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,000 Speaker 3: the Jets will be in a lot of them. Stop 1772 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 3: delaying the schedule released. We wanted out on the normal weekend. 1773 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 3: We know where Rodgers is. 1774 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 1: Well, weren't they waiting for this? 1775 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 3: Well, I've heard whispers that the. 1776 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 1: League will see putting a little pressure on the dealer. 1777 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 2: I know if you suddenly put Zach, if you do 1778 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,800 Speaker 2: the schedule first, and you know Zach Wilson in five 1779 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 2: primetime games, that's a. 1780 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 3: Probably no whispers on that, But if there was, if 1781 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,360 Speaker 3: Lamari and Aaron Rodgers was still uncertain that they didn't 1782 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 3: really want to start tending that schedule out until they 1783 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,960 Speaker 3: knew we're the best primetime games. But you think you 1784 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 3: got to assume Lamar's in Baltimore at this point. 1785 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,599 Speaker 1: All right, we need one more an onion hanger from 1786 01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. All right, this has happened before. 1787 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm really looking at to two options that I have 1788 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 2: here though. Okay, you know how the we have an 1789 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:11,480 Speaker 2: absolute waterfall of absurdity on day two in the especially 1790 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 2: long Day three where like they had like a zoo 1791 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 2: animal announcing like the cults pick the one time. Yes, 1792 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,599 Speaker 2: this and I have no information on this, but I 1793 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,639 Speaker 2: think because we're at this point in our world where 1794 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 2: a this is tech based, not may be the place 1795 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,720 Speaker 2: where Tom tom Brady spoke, but a non human slash 1796 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 2: non animal will make a Day two or Day three 1797 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 2: pick for one team. 1798 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking like. 1799 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 2: Like a holographic image of like Vince Lombardi does it 1800 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,400 Speaker 2: for the packers or something, but something they've never done before, 1801 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 2: where like a true non sentient being announces the pick, 1802 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 2: maybe even live in Kansas City, if not at some 1803 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 2: sort of other local scenario. 1804 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 3: A non human non animal. So they've already done zoo 1805 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 3: animals thing with the chimp making the pickpened. I can't 1806 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,639 Speaker 3: do that, No, I guess, I guess I gotta take 1807 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 3: you on that. 1808 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,879 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that crazy if you think about it, 1809 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,200 Speaker 1: did you say a non like Simeon is that what 1810 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 1: it was? 1811 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 2: Like a non human has to be any any real 1812 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 2: huge or but I'm thinking like a holographic image of 1813 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,200 Speaker 2: someone out from Davis. Yeah, exactly like Al Davis like 1814 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,320 Speaker 2: rolls up in a holographic controversial deep into like jets. 1815 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,280 Speaker 1: I have a letter right now going on. There's a 1816 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 1: lot of texts I replying to. Yes, I will take 1817 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,640 Speaker 1: you on that, okay, just because I think some there 1818 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 1: would be some pushback about putting a dead man on 1819 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,320 Speaker 1: stage or whatever. It may not be. 1820 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's definitely an NFL figure. It could 1821 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,639 Speaker 2: be some George Washington, if you will. Sure if someone 1822 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 2: went would be an odd road. But like the commanders 1823 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,600 Speaker 2: could do that, I guess, well there's a. 1824 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 1: Lot of commanders. Yeah, in the Pentagon. 1825 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 2: We need to end this. I think we need to 1826 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 2: let dan go be free in society, just like frolic out. 1827 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,640 Speaker 2: Is it going to dance around? So what does the 1828 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 2: next three hours look like for you? What's going to 1829 01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 2: happen to day? 1830 01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 1: You know, I just turned forty three. There are limits 1831 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 1: to this, you know, like when when Brett Favre was 1832 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 1: traded and that would be the obviously the natural connection. 1833 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,160 Speaker 1: Another team that was all in. After that happened, I 1834 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 1: happened to be in a bar in Austin, Texas when 1835 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,040 Speaker 1: the trade went down late at night hookham horns and 1836 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,960 Speaker 1: got hammered and was super excited. Now I have responsibilities. 1837 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 1: I got to pick up the kids from school. Yeah. See, 1838 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,519 Speaker 1: I just imagin he's got stuff to do. 1839 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 3: Tammy Taylor, you know Tammy Taylor in the beginning of 1840 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 3: Friday light like this all through the fields. 1841 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 1: There will be a little bit of that. I think 1842 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a Tito's tonight once the kids. 1843 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,000 Speaker 2: You just get the kids home safe and then you can. 1844 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit it's bittersweet that I won't be 1845 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,679 Speaker 1: able to confer with Keith on this until he returns 1846 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:46,240 Speaker 1: from Budapest and other territories in Europe. 1847 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 3: But he didn't do the thing where you just put 1848 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:53,320 Speaker 3: the cell phone on while you're gone. No, no, okay, no, 1849 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:55,840 Speaker 3: my dad right. 1850 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he keeps it pretty pretty tight ship with the tech. 1851 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's an international sport. I'm going to learn 1852 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:04,720 Speaker 2: about it somewhere. I think he's gonna hear about it, 1853 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,080 Speaker 2: all right, So there you go. Interesting and those are 1854 01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 2: the props, good ones. Check out Nick four Tier at 1855 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,519 Speaker 2: go get my lunch dot Org. Oh wait a second 1856 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,639 Speaker 2: before we say goodbye. It is also a tradition before 1857 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,559 Speaker 2: a producer gets too upset. I'm sorry, just a lot 1858 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:25,680 Speaker 2: of stuff's going on right now. 1859 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, we always have the producer offer up a prop 1860 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 1: of their own before we say goodbye. Justin Graver, Yeah, 1861 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 1: your draft prop. I thought I was off the hook 1862 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 1: there for a sec. But okay, so you don't have 1863 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 1: to do it, but I'll throw one out there. 1864 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Why not? 1865 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,800 Speaker 4: My draft prop is the top seven picks go off 1866 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,960 Speaker 4: in the current order as they stand. No Draft day 1867 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,120 Speaker 4: trades in the top sex. 1868 01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 1: I love it, take you and I love it. I 1869 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 1: think it's a great one. The old Gettleman, Yeah, yeah, 1870 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,719 Speaker 1: I'll take you that usually. Yeah, somebody's gonna make a move. Somebody. 1871 01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,960 Speaker 3: Why is up? The old Gettleman. He didn't like trades. 1872 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 1: Oh, Dave Getman hated trading. Oh that's right, too complex. 1873 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,679 Speaker 3: So he sat there at six and took Daniel Jones 1874 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 3: famously in hindsight, did you got Daniel Jones? 1875 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,840 Speaker 1: His quarterback? And Dexter Lawrence? Reasonable but not a GM app? 1876 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,639 Speaker 1: You never did it once? Like famously he never traded back. 1877 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 3: I guess I'll take you on that. But this is 1878 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,240 Speaker 3: not the onion hanger. It sounds like it is, because 1879 01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 3: I think if you went and looked over the last 1880 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,920 Speaker 3: X amount of years, at least going into draft day, 1881 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 3: because obviously there's already been one Tree draft one, but 1882 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 3: during the draft, I would say as many, if not more, 1883 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 3: drafts don't have a trade that high. 1884 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:44,959 Speaker 4: Right, like reporting about Arizona taking calls. 1885 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 3: Point, wait, if the draft happen, If the trade happens 1886 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 3: between now and Thursday, though, you lose your prop. Right 1887 01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,920 Speaker 3: If the Cardinals traded on Wednesday, you've. 1888 01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:59,799 Speaker 2: Got trade action. It's it stays put as of Thursday 1889 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 2: at five pm, Western. 1890 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:06,080 Speaker 4: Agreed any trade between clun That would be fun to 1891 01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,640 Speaker 4: be the first producer to lose this prop before the 1892 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 4: draft even starts, right. 1893 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 1: The producers are not good at this. So you're trying to, uh, 1894 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, change history if you will, and you have 1895 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,639 Speaker 1: nothing to do with past failures in that chair, right, 1896 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 1: So I think that's the way you're looking at it, right. 1897 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,240 Speaker 4: Well, the way I'm looking at is, as your guys, producer, 1898 01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 4: my job is to make you all look great. So 1899 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 4: if that means getting my draft prop wrong, then I'm 1900 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 4: all for it. 1901 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,680 Speaker 2: Except that's not what you're that's not your attitude, and 1902 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:41,200 Speaker 2: you're trying to kneecap one of Yes our co hosts here. 1903 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 1: On a daily basis. 1904 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,280 Speaker 3: In a big spot. I think we're going to drop 1905 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 3: that one overnight on Wednesday, right, the Big Mock Draft Spectacular. 1906 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Oh what a showdown it is? All right, that's it. Wow, Okay, 1907 01:27:56,120 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: we will be back on yes Wednesday with the Huge 1908 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:06,679 Speaker 1: mock Draft and then Thursday it all begins. My goodness, 1909 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 1: live stream, live stream, post pod, Post Trapp podcast, Leave 1910 01:28:12,160 --> 01:29:07,960 Speaker 1: the Call Days