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Speaker 1: to the show. You're listening to Happy Hour on the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. I am Shannon Gross. I am

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Speaker 1: joined in studio by my Office Made or former office made,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully one day again future office made. Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 1: How you doing Nick? What's up man? I'm doing great. Two.

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Speaker 1: We're joined by one oh five three the fans, Jeffrey Cavanaugh.

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Speaker 1: Are you there, Jeffrey, I am here, gentlemen. I love

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Speaker 1: a good Happy Hour. Yes sir, yes, sir. We'll uh.

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Speaker 1: Have you been in any Twitter wars lately? Today? Not

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Speaker 1: today today, I've just kind of been taking victory laps. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, baby, we'll get into that later on in

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Speaker 1: the show. Victory I love it, And then also joined

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Speaker 1: by former Cowboy Number thirty one Slash thirty eight. Not

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Speaker 1: eleven Roy Williams. Roy, are you with us? Yes? I am, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am awesome. Man. Hold on, I have to ask Roy,

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Speaker 1: you have a cigar with you at all? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Are you holding one? You got a camera on? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: yes I do. I do have a cigar let up,

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Speaker 1: And I guess that's probably, you know, unfair, because I

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Speaker 1: you know you you like to have cigars every now

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Speaker 1: and again, but you just had that You just got

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Speaker 1: that sound about you where you just kind of relax

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Speaker 1: and chilling, you know, you know, I am I'm actually um.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was gonna be like a video zoom

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Speaker 1: type thing. So yeah, um, I haven't set up in

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Speaker 1: my car because my daughter has a double header and softball,

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Speaker 1: so I'm out after softball fields talking. It smell from

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Speaker 1: a cigar, so it works. It's good to go. Well,

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Speaker 1: you Nick, you and Roy have a You guys go

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Speaker 1: way back. Obviously you covered the team when Roy was here,

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Speaker 1: and then you guys did a documentary on Roy called

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Speaker 1: The Late Hit in the off season that aired, a

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Speaker 1: Deep Blue documentary that aired on all the Dallas Cowboy

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Speaker 1: digital and social media. So you guys, you've got some

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Speaker 1: stories that will get into a little bit later about Roy.

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Speaker 1: So maybe you and Jeff can can compare notes on

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Speaker 1: having you know, players confront you at some point during

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Speaker 1: this show. Yeah, you know, I think it's it's and

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Speaker 1: Jeff this maybe Yeah, you and Everson will have a great,

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Speaker 1: you know relationship and do some work down the road

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Speaker 1: because Roy, I mean, Roy'll be the first to tell you.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was a little rocky with me. So

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Speaker 1: I think we're good now, I think, but I think

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Speaker 1: we're good, but you know what, and I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to expand on it, but my thought process on

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Speaker 1: it was both young, um and kind of immature, But

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Speaker 1: at the same time I felt a certain way because

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Speaker 1: I felt that you guys worked, we are employed by

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Speaker 1: the same people, and you are dogging me. I thought

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Speaker 1: we were apposed being the same team, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, so exactly, I know exactly what you mean,

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Speaker 1: and that's something we have to balance every single day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like even even now, like, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's hard for people to understand what we do, and

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Speaker 1: we're still trying to to tow that line because if

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Speaker 1: you don't, the fans will see right through it. So

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Speaker 1: you have to kind of figure out a good way.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time you're sharing you know, planes, buses,

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Speaker 1: you know, or whatever, like you gotta these are like

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Speaker 1: I guess we. I mean, I'll just set it up

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Speaker 1: How did that happen yesterday? Jeff? So after every Cowboy

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Speaker 1: game when it whenever the NFL puts up their game

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Speaker 1: tape where they have the coaches tape now where if

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Speaker 1: you pay money there's NFL game passed and you can

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Speaker 1: get the coaches tape. You can watch games from the

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Speaker 1: angles that the teams are going to study the tape from.

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Speaker 1: So I've done that for both games, and I'll be honest.

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Speaker 1: The tweet that set off the firestorm was really kind

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's not the same guy that

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Speaker 1: I watched when I studied him in Minnesota. When they

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Speaker 1: So I tweeted something like, Everson Griffin hasn't helped the

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Speaker 1: not surprising, I guess that he didn't like that, But

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Speaker 1: you know it is there is a line somewhere where,

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Speaker 1: like my rule is where our radio station is the

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Speaker 1: home of the Cowboys. So we're partners. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, I will never personally attack anybody. But I

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Speaker 1: also won't fib when I'm studying how guys are playing.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how I think guys are playing.

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Speaker 1: And then today Everson told the media that he's going

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Speaker 1: back to a three point stance to try to get

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Speaker 1: I was just like, well, does that sound like somebody

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Speaker 1: because that's not the way I want to do radio.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have confrontations with players. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to fight with people. I want to talk about sports.

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Speaker 1: I want to have fun. But sometimes I guess that's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen because it's part of the job. But you

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Speaker 1: don't think you're changing your technique back if you thought

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Speaker 1: a victory lap today. Roy. Did you get a chance

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Speaker 1: to see the game this past weekend. Yeah, I watched it.

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Speaker 1: things just go the right way, obviously, Julio Jones dropped

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Speaker 1: Is it? Do you still does the victory kind of

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Speaker 1: Well they're not going too thank god. Um, but you

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Speaker 1: know they Yes, it could have easily went the other

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Speaker 1: but I feel that you can't overlook the simple mistakes

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Speaker 1: it's twenty four, no, no, no, they're not gonna win.

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Speaker 1: So that was my cutoff line. Why did you feel that?

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Speaker 1: But what did you see? Just what Roy just said?

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Speaker 1: They they weren't The Cowboys defense was making just enough stops.

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Speaker 1: I mean they they dodge a bullet. They truly did.

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Speaker 1: And honestly them that onside kick, I mean, honestly still

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Speaker 1: might not even play the next game if you do that.

426
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember the play, but

427
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: it was just a touchdown over the middle kind of

428
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: game in the side of a shoulder. Yeah, it's just

429
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: letting it real. It's like he yeah, you already know,

430
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: and so you know. I hate it when safeties get

431
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: criticized now for how they play and it's like they

432
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: want to be on the field. They don't actually want

433
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: to give money to charity here every single game. It's

434
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: sad that you have to think like that in the

435
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: middle of the game. I don't do it. You're saying

436
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do that, you wouldn't sacrifice. I mean that

437
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: if I was playing in today's game, yes, I would

438
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: try to do everything and mind willpower not to try

439
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: to take somebody's head, like, but it's so tough. It

440
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: really is very tough. When you're putting those positions. You

441
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: got a receiver catching the ball and he's falling down

442
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: and you're going over there to tackle him. You know,

443
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: if his head comes down to hit yours, you get

444
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: fine for it. And that's not that's re pick you this.

445
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: And then you got guys that make a good pop

446
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: and what the first thing they do, you guys, watch

447
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: The first thing they do is they look around and

448
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: see if they got a flag that is not football

449
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: that freaking sucts. Would you would you if you could pick?

450
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: Would you have gone back twenty years to win? I

451
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: mean I remember every year at the end of the

452
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: season you could buy literally a VHS of the guys

453
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: just getting destroyed over and over again. Are you happy

454
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: with the era you were in or do you wish

455
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: you could even go backwards? I wish I go back

456
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: probably um five more years, at least five years. So

457
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: I came out in two thousand and two. If I

458
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: can go back, uh say, uh, probably ninety six, I

459
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: would love it. I would love it because I would

460
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: have been able to have you know, a good, a good, solid,

461
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: ten solid years not having to worry about them doing

462
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: the horse collar. And the only reason why the horse

463
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: collar even became the horse collar was because I did

464
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: it to Turell Owens and Andy Reid Um pleaded and

465
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 1: cried whatever he did to the commissioner and got it

466
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: put in as a rule. That's man, that's the only

467
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: reason the horse collar is even a thing. You're gonna

468
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: go back. Let's go to ninety five and just try

469
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl since but you know, you

470
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: know it's been a while, Jeff, that's a great question.

471
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you asked that about the errors because

472
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: the documentary that we did, and I love the fact,

473
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, Roy was like the whole way was just

474
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: like so accommodating, the most accommodating player we've ever ever had,

475
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, to help us with that, and he was

476
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, you guys, do it the way

477
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: you want to do it, which I which we really

478
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: appreciate it. But the title of it is the late Hit,

479
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: and it's not because he's running over hitting someone after

480
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: the whistle. It was exactly what you just said, Jeff.

481
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: It was the fact that he was in the wrong era.

482
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: He was the next Ronney Lott, but they didn't want

483
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Ronney Lott anymore. That's that's the bad part. He is

484
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: a and Darren Woodson said he would have been a

485
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player. The best safety ever play if

486
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: he's in this eighties, nineties, maybe even two thousand, I mean,

487
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: or eighties and nineties. Let's talk about that when we

488
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: come back. Let's talk about the documentary. Nick, you were

489
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: super involved in that. You went up and talked to Roy,

490
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: interviewed him. Let's talk about that whole process. We'll get

491
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: into a little Cowboys Seahawks when we come back, and

492
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: a lot more when we come back. On the Happy Hour.

493
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Happy Hour on the Dallas Cowboys

494
00:30:00,080 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Radio Network. Back back to the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys

495
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Happy Broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

496
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Welcome back. We're here with special guest

497
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: Roy Williams, also joined by Nick eat Men, Jeff Kavanaugh,

498
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: and I am Shannon Gross. Nick and I are live

499
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: here at the Star. Everyone else is remote. So yeah,

500
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: softball game going on. What's going on to score? I

501
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: don't know. They don't really keep score. Um they're still

502
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: still young, but UM, my daughter's team is not doing

503
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: so hot there. It's frustrate. It's tough being an athlete.

504
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: That's tough to watch and it's tough to keep him

505
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: off shut because at my daughter's age, what is she

506
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: seven right now, she's really not really interested. But we

507
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: have to get her involved and get her into sports

508
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: and get her to do something besides looking out the

509
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: tablet watching TV. So I mean, I'm happy that she's

510
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: out here. Um, she's given a better effort now after

511
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: her mom and I had to, you know, do some

512
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: extra work with her. Um, but I like her effort now,

513
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She's given. She's she's hustling

514
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: now and she's making contact with the ball because it's

515
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: a coach pitch. So at first she was just swinging

516
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: just to be swinging, and now she's really trying to

517
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: focus and concentrate, which I'm as long as you give

518
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: me effort, I'm good. But if you don't give me effort,

519
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: I would go on the field and thank you off,

520
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So she's it's it's all

521
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: good right now. I don't care. I mean, what how

522
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: whatever I can do to put my hand if it

523
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: has to be a horse collar, it's a horse collar,

524
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: but I will she knows that will anchor to because

525
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't play that. Jeff Nick got to ask Roy

526
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: a lot of questions when he went up for this documentary. So,

527
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: before we get too far into this documentary, what question

528
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: or questions would you like to ask Roy uh Boomer?

529
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: So I'm good, Well, Nick, you got to go up

530
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: and and and you guys did this documentary. What was

531
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: the premise of the documentary? And then what was you know,

532
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: what was that experience? Well, honestly, I just I felt

533
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: like that you know, when people talk about Roy, they

534
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: think about the big hits or the horse callers or whatever,

535
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: and that the sad part of it was is just

536
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: how I don't know if they remember just the dynamic,

537
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: catalytic player that he was. That's exactly the player that

538
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: they needed him to be, and they just didn't have

539
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: enough guys around him. But I mean, and then then

540
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: they changed the rules around him. But like the calling

541
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: it the late hit, like I said before, it just

542
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: shows that like this is this was the player that

543
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: they wanted, This was the player that they needed. It's

544
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: just the NFL changed around him, and they needed a

545
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: game changing player and he was. It just happened to

546
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: be the game changed in different ways than you know,

547
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: we all expected. But I had a blast doing it

548
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: because Roy, I'll tell you you you were the most

549
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: accommodating player. And I'll give you a one quick story.

550
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: He drove up to meet us. We met us right

551
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: by Bob Bob Stoops's house if you want to call

552
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: it a house. It's kind of a castle. But I

553
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: mean it was unreal. And he met us over there

554
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: and to give us a box of stuff, just all

555
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: kinds of memorabilia probably had what one or two temperature there.

556
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you were you were not you were not

557
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: in good shape there and and you know, but it

558
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: gets out of his house, goes and does that. I mean,

559
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 1: that was just one of many things like that. Drove

560
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: up to Norman, which is forty five minutes from his house,

561
00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: maybe thirty minutes out sorry hour and two hours. Yeah,

562
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: well from from edmund Um, which, by the way, I'm

563
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna go up to edmund I'm gonna be up there

564
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: again some day because my buddy's the ad at the

565
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: UCO now. But anyways, he like he goes up there,

566
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: I mean like she shows us around, shows us all

567
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: the cool stuff at Oklahoma, shows us the weight room

568
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: that he actually gave money and donated. I mean, it

569
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: was just really awesome to kind of see that side.

570
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: And and you know, I'm telling you, I my only

571
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: regret is that we didn't we didn't win an Emmy

572
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: for it, because it was it was more you know,

573
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: satisfying thing that I've done, uh, you know, especially with

574
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: doing these documentaries. It was awesome. So if I haven't

575
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: thanked you enough, I'll thank you again for it. No,

576
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: I thank you for even uh having me involved in

577
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: the project. Honestly, it was it was awesome. And I mean,

578
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna stop being me. I've always been

579
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: a person with a big card that always does probably

580
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: more than he shouts for others. But I'm not going

581
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: to ever change because that's who I am. So I mean,

582
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: that's just all the things that you're saying. It's like,

583
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, that's just what I do. You know

584
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. If if you need me to do something,

585
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. That's just me. And even to

586
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: this day, I mean, everyone remembers the Santana Moss Game

587
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: and the two thousand and five and all that, and

588
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't really Roy, it was the corner. But Roy

589
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: to this day still didn't call out the corner and

590
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: still didn't call it. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not

591
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: gonna that's not that's not me. And until you're to

592
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: to to act on to what you said, like what

593
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: people remember me for. People remember me for saying that

594
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: I got burnt on plays, and and it's it's not

595
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I did. I gave up some touchdownds to a few

596
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: tight ends and probably actually Terrell Owens when he was

597
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: with Philadelphia, like two thousand and four or five, whatever

598
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: that was about. But I did. I did give up.

599
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: I did give up. I did give up some some

600
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: touchdown plays. But the one that they hold on to

601
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: is the Washington one. They say, oh, you got beat whatever.

602
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: That wasn't even my responsibility. But I'm not the guy

603
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: to throw somebody up, throwing one of my teammates under

604
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: the bus, like I will never I will never do that.

605
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't raised that way, you know what I mean,

606
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: I'll take it. It would have been nice if the

607
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: coaching staff would have stepped up and said something, but

608
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: they didn't. They let the narrative ride and go spread

609
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: like wi fire, like Roy Williams was the one that

610
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: gave up first plays and that's not even true. But

611
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: and then that's that's the thing that holds over my

612
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: head and over two people, over my head and my

613
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: career that I gave up and lost that game for

614
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: our team, which that's the furthest thing from the truth.

615
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: But I'm the one that has to bear all that burden,

616
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: and I have no coaches to come to my defense.

617
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: You know, I have some teammates, but you know what

618
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the coaches that that should have said something,

619
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: but they didn't mean It's fine. Speaking of coverage, before

620
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: we get Roy's take on this Cowboys secondary, Kevinall, what

621
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: are you seeing on film? Are you encouraged by the secondary?

622
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: They've got a couple injuries that popped up this week

623
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: on the injury report, Diggs came out with a shoulder

624
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: injury on today's did not participate Cheetos is it a hamstring?

625
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: They're not getting a lot of pressure up front, But

626
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: what do you Are you encouraged by the play of

627
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: the secondary so far? Kavanaugh? Are you concerned? I actually

628
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: think Cheeto is off to a pretty nice start to

629
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: the year, and now, of course sounds like he's gonna

630
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: miss a couple of games at least, But I thought

631
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: he was off to a pretty nice start. Trayvon Dis

632
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: I think is off to a promising start. I'm not

633
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: going to pretend that he's a star player right now,

634
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: but he shows you a lot of things that you

635
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: really like in terms of the aggressiveness, the willingness to

636
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: be physical, he wants to be involved in the run game.

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Speaker 1: He just he's going NonStop. So I think the early

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Speaker 1: returns on him are promising overall. I think the secondary

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Speaker 1: has struggled a little bit. Xavier Woods has played well,

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Speaker 1: but you're talking about being banged up. You lost Byron

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Speaker 1: Jones in the offseason, and now you're going against a

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Speaker 1: quarterback whose coaching staff is finally letting him cook, Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: They're a throw first offense now, and you got to

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Speaker 1: deal with Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf and that is

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Speaker 1: a handful. So, you know, relative to expectations, I think

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Speaker 1: the secondary has been fine because you just you don't

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Speaker 1: have a ton invested there. But I think that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna need some help from that front four. That front

649
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: four is gonna have to wake up and get some

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Speaker 1: pressure if you want to not have Russell Wilson hang

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Speaker 1: thirty on you. Roy what's your perception of the secondary

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00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: this season? Um Um, I agree that they do have

653
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Speaker 1: a lot of promise. UM. I felt encouraged that they

654
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Speaker 1: are competing. You know, they're just not letting people catch

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00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: the ball on them. Um. I really feel that they

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Speaker 1: have their handsful this this coming weekend. Um, it's gonna

657
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Speaker 1: be a tall task. I mean, j Dj Metcalf is

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Speaker 1: not He's not um one to take take lightly. UM.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've seen his warm up catching those one

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Speaker 1: hand and catches, and I mean his vertical is ridiculous. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I'm I think they have am I look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing how they respond to this this task learning

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Speaker 1: against Seahawks. Nick, what do you think about secondary? I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I agree with both of them. I definitely

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Speaker 1: agree with the last thing that Jeff said though about

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Speaker 1: the the the past for rush. I mean, this this

667
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Speaker 1: team was built. You know, they let they let go

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Speaker 1: of of Byron Jones, and then you know, they added

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Speaker 1: Alden Smith, added Everson Griffin, they added Jerald McCoy. Of

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Speaker 1: course that didn't work out, but they were adding a

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Speaker 1: lot of beef up front to try to really get

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Speaker 1: a pass rush that we haven't seen just yet. So

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Speaker 1: you know, that was supposed to kind of offset some

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Speaker 1: of the the you know, inexperience in the secondary, and

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Speaker 1: so we haven't seen that. But yeah, I thought, I

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Speaker 1: think the corners are battling, they're doing the you know,

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00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: they're doing the best they can. I mean they did

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Speaker 1: and let Julio Jones beat them. I mean they didn't.

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00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: The other guys tried and got really close. But I

680
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: mean they have faced two quarterbacks now that have been

681
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl in the last four years, and

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00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: they're about to face another one here, I guess and

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. So I mean they're facing some offenses that

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Speaker 1: are that are experienced and pretty good. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: who they're facing in Russell Wilson. Let's talk about the

686
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Speaker 1: similarities between Russell and Dak and some other things pertaining

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Speaker 1: to the game. When we come back, we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: our final break. You're listening to the Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: a little game one day up in Seattle. Dak Prescott

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00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys travel up to visit Russell Wilson

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00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: and the Seattle Seahawks. And when you look on paper,

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00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson through this point in Dak's

699
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: career or almost their status are almost identical. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Russell Dak. You have people that are big fans of Dak.

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Speaker 1: You have people that are, you know, not big fans

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Speaker 1: of Dak. What do you guys, what are y'all's opinions

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00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: of Dak so far? He put the team on his

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Speaker 1: back this past this past weekend and carried him to

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Speaker 1: a victory. What are your opinions on Dak this far

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Speaker 1: in his career? Is he is he approaching elite status?

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Speaker 1: Is he just an okay quarterback? Kevinall? What is your

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Speaker 1: evaluation of Dak to this point? I think that almost

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Speaker 1: everybody's opinion of Dak is unreasonable because I think we've

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Speaker 1: gotten to the point where everybody you had to just

711
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Speaker 1: dig in on a side and then fight it out.

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Speaker 1: So he's either awful or he's the best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the league, and I think that he's had. Look, he's

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback of his draft class to this point

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Speaker 1: in their careers, and he's a guy that, no doubt

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Speaker 1: is if you're very Dak negative, he's still a top

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Speaker 1: twelve quarterback in the league, probably top eight or nine.

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Speaker 1: So to me, he's a guy that the intangibles were

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Speaker 1: never in question. I think the difference between like him

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Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson came into the league with

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Speaker 1: probably better arm talent, and he's a more athletic guy,

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Speaker 1: but Dak came in as a much more polished leader.

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Speaker 1: It factor follow me kind of guy, and as far

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Speaker 1: as stats, he's kind of following the rust trajectory. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's crazy that the Cowboys two years ago

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00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: didn't get a contract done for him, and they better

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Speaker 1: hope that he's merciful when this next offseason gets here,

728
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Speaker 1: because with a franchise tag at thirty seven million, and

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Speaker 1: then if they wanted to try another one it's fifty

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Speaker 1: four million, he's holding some pretty darn good hole cards

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Speaker 1: for a contract negotiation Roy, what do you what do

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00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: you see when you see Dad? Um? I honestly, I

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Speaker 1: honestly see the same situation that when when Romo came in,

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Speaker 1: you know, um, you know he was putting up these

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Speaker 1: stats and everybody was praising a Romo, right, And now

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Speaker 1: that Dak is doing it and Dak is doing it

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Speaker 1: pretty much identical or even better. I think they're identical.

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Speaker 1: And stats in like over four hundred yards and Dak's

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Speaker 1: record compared to Tony's record when thrown over four hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: I think Tony's I won five and Dak is like

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Speaker 1: four and one, you know. And for people to say that,

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Speaker 1: you know that whoever's critical against Dak, I mean, did

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Speaker 1: you have that same energy towards Tony when Tony was

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Speaker 1: putting them through type of stats? You know? So I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think it's really fair that

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Speaker 1: how how do you hold Dak to a higher standard

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00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: thing you did with Tony Romo. So I feel that

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Speaker 1: it's it's un yes that he's getting all this criticism,

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Speaker 1: Um that he's getting, it's it's undeserved. And I mean

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Speaker 1: that is a he's the leader of that team and

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Speaker 1: he's weekend and week out. You know, he's proven he

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Speaker 1: is he is the he's the leader of that team

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Speaker 1: on the offense. So um, I think he's doing a

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Speaker 1: great job. I truly do. Um. Yes, there are times

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Speaker 1: that I scratched my head on some of the decisions

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Speaker 1: that he probably made, but I mean, hey, we did

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Speaker 1: the same thing for the previous quarterback before him, So

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that the comparison to to Tony

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Speaker 1: is a good one. And but I will say this

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Speaker 1: about Romo. I mean the criticism that he that he

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Speaker 1: got is that he couldn't win the big one, and

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Speaker 1: you know, really in the playoffs, he couldn't. He couldn't

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Speaker 1: win those games. And I think with with Dak, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's that's where the criticism is gonna go. Like

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Speaker 1: the honeymoon's over. You're not a fourth round pick anymore.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're you're you're the leader of the you

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00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: know things of the franchise of America's team, and so

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to what they do in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I think he's doing great. But the difference though with Russell, though,

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Speaker 1: when you try to compare him Channon, it's just that

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Speaker 1: Russell was around a team that was ready to win

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Speaker 1: right then. And you know, they won the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: in his second year, and it wasn't for an interception,

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00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: they would have won it in his third year. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just more about clutch moments right now.

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Speaker 1: But there's stats are the same. I just think the

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Speaker 1: only criticism DEC's going to get now is this if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't take them to the next level. Cavanaugh, what

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Speaker 1: do you think is the game plan this weekend versus Seattle?

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Speaker 1: Seattle will give up the big pass on you. What

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Speaker 1: would you go in with the Cowboys game plan? Do

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Speaker 1: you try to run it established and run early or

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Speaker 1: do you just sling it around and air it out.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a tough matchup because both of these

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00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: teams have been pretty susceptible in the secondary to big plays,

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Speaker 1: and the Seahawks have really embraced that our quarterback is

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Speaker 1: awesome and we're gonna let him rip. So I think

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Speaker 1: as the Cowboys, you're a little bit fortunate and that

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna have fans in Seattle, because holy cow,

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00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: that environment is intimidating. But you know, I think you

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Speaker 1: just got to embrace what you are, and I think

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Speaker 1: what The Cowboys are as a team with three awesome

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Speaker 1: wide receivers that if you can get the ball out

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Speaker 1: quick enough, if you can protect your quarterback, you can

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Speaker 1: go possession for possession with anybody your quarterback can play

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Speaker 1: with their quarterback. Your wide receivers are as good or

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Speaker 1: better when you want to go three deep as their's are.

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Speaker 1: So their challenge is going to be can we cover

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Speaker 1: for a missing right tackle for another week? As Tyrann

800
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Speaker 1: Smith gonna play? But you're gonna have to score points

801
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: because they're going to Roy. How do you do? You

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00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: do you? If you're the Cowboys, do you game plan

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Speaker 1: for a guy like Jamal Adams or do you just

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00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: run your offense and then what happens happens? Um? Of

805
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: course you have to um think about them in your

806
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: game planning. Um, but you you mean how the offense

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Speaker 1: gets going is from you know what I'm saying, the

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Speaker 1: whole the feed me man. You know, Zeke, you gotta

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Speaker 1: you gotta feed them, you know what I mean? And

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Speaker 1: if if you if you established the running game, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I opens up so many more options. So, um, I

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Speaker 1: know you have to game plan for you Adams, but

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Speaker 1: I mean your identity is running that ball and um,

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00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: then open up your playbook from there. So I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't think you get away from that. Nick. Biggest

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Speaker 1: concern for you for the Cowboys heading into this week

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: at Seattle, I think it's it's just, you know, you

818
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: have to kind of play mistake free and last week

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Speaker 1: they didn't do that at all because but but they

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Speaker 1: got lucky that the defense was able to kind of

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Speaker 1: stop the Falcons just enough. But I don't think, as

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Speaker 1: Jeff said, I don't think that the you know, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna stop scoring there Seattle, so you're gonna have to

824
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Speaker 1: really kind of go with them. It's got to be

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Speaker 1: mistake free and you know, not to be funny at

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Speaker 1: all about it, but one of the biggest things you

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Speaker 1: have to do is take the crowd out of the game.

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Speaker 1: So that is a that is a break for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys of not having to deal with that. Uh And

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Speaker 1: and I think that if they could match up well,

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Speaker 1: but they cannot turn the ball over because I don't

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Speaker 1: think Russell you can count that Russell Wilson's is going

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Speaker 1: to be doing that. Well. What was the what was

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Speaker 1: the most hostile environment you played in? What what stadium

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Speaker 1: did you not like to go to the most in

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Speaker 1: your career. Um, I didn't have a stadium that I

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Speaker 1: did not like because honestly, being a kid from the intercity,

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Speaker 1: you always always dreamed about playing in the NFL. So

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Speaker 1: it was a treat to play in other stadiums because

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Speaker 1: I just thought that was amazing. But I would say,

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Speaker 1: Washington are Philly. Um they were rowdy, you know they

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00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: they they most definitely displayed their displeasure for the Cowboys.

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00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: Did you have a favorite stadium or a favorite environment

844
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Speaker 1: to play? Cotton Bowl College for sure. Um, I honestly

845
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Speaker 1: loved playing. I love playing and uh Dallas Stadium, man,

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Speaker 1: I truly did. I loved it because I mean that's

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Speaker 1: what I grew up on watching, you know, watching Tony

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Speaker 1: Door Said and a mad and all those uh Cowboy

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Speaker 1: greats do their thing in that stadium. So every every

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Speaker 1: mean that was like a dream come true. You know,

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Speaker 1: because it's one of the best ones that you said

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Speaker 1: you lived out a dream. He's not just saying that

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Speaker 1: in in what was it year eleventh grade yearbook? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: it said where do you see yourself in five years?

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Speaker 1: He said, playing for the Dallas Cowboys. It's got the

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. I mean, and we're not talking about a

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Speaker 1: kid that's living in Dallas, California. That's that's awesome. You're

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan growing up, Roy, I was my dad's

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Speaker 1: from Irvan. Okay, So I mean I grew up in

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Speaker 1: seen for forty nine ers. It was all Cowboys, all right,

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Speaker 1: real quick, we got about thirty seconds. Cavanaugh. Do the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys win this weekend? Oh man, what a messed up

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Speaker 1: question to ask here? No, Nick, do you think I

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Speaker 1: think they will? I think there's something weird stuff's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win this one. Yeah, Roy, ye

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Speaker 1: have faith in the boys this weekend or I always.

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Speaker 1: I always ride with the Cowboys regardless. I don't even

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Speaker 1: care if they're underdogs. They're they're gonna win. They are.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys are gonna do this to me.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna make the beg on a Wednesday. We could

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Speaker 1: even wait till Friday, could hit it on a Wednesday. Well, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. One who's gonna

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Speaker 1: win one oh five. You're messing him up. We gotta

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Speaker 1: get out of here. Thank you, Roy Hey. This has

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Speaker 1: been the Happy Hour on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network.

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