1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone, 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. The 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: holidays are upon us. It's very easy sometimes I know 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: I've fallen victim to this, to get caught up in 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: the gifts and the parties and the food, but sometimes 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: losing sight of what's really important. My guest today is 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: the CEO of an organization that's near and dear to 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: my heart and is helping so many people all year long. 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: Please welcome Claire Babineau Fontaneau, the CEO of Feeding America, 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: to the podcast. 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: Hi. 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: How are you. 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm excellent. I'm really excited about this opportunity. 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so happy that you're here today. I have 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: been a part of Feeding America, working with Feeding America 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: for a long long time now. I did a PSA 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: for them many moons ago that is still running. I 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: still catch it here and there, which I am so 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: proud of. And yeah, I've done a lot of like 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, going to feed the homeless at the food 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: banks and passing out oranges and fruits and just really 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: enjoy working with you all. 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 3: Well, if you ever hear me interviewed and I say 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: thank you to the Freedom American Network, then no, I'm 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: talking about you too. 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: Then a perfect. 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: It includes all the volunteers, it includes every minute, So 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: thank you for. 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: That so many people. Before we dive in to the 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: amazing work you're doing, I want to just kind of 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: start at the beginning because your life is so fascinating. 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: It's almost like giving back and helping others was your destiny. 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Your parents cared for am I right on this one 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: hundred and eight children? 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: You are correct? 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: Good one hundred and eight And if my mother were 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: doing this interview, she would tell you. My mom had 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: one hundred and eight children. She was mother to all 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: of us, in each of us in extraordinary ways. Her 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: beginnings were so humble, but what she understood was how 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 3: powerful one person can be as a force for good 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: in the world. She provided a remarkable example for all 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: of us. And I'd like to think that I'm finally 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: in a role where I get to live into the 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: example that she provided. 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: Oh that must feel so good. It does. I know 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: it's a combination, so everybody's clear. It was a combination 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: of birth, adoption, and fostering. She was a mother to 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: one hundred and eight, but you know, yes, exactly, exactly 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: even think that's possible. 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: She did not give birth to one hundred night, thank God. 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Tell me what it was like growing up in a 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: house with so many, so many people. 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: It's all I ever have known, by the way, so 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: I don't have anything to contrast it with. 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: But it was. It was crazy, It was. 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Loud, It was at moments so unified and beautiful. One 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: of the special talents that my mother in particular had 62 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: in my father had as well, was a way to 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 3: resonate with each of us in our in our uniqueness. Right, 64 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: So I didn't ever feel like I was part of 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: anything that was homogeneous, but I don't think that any 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: of us did. The standards that were set for us 67 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: were unique to our talents and our capabilities. We were all, 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: every single one of us expected to find ways to 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: deploy those talents and to give back to the world. 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: It was. It was fascinating. 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: So I have friends who are only children who'd come 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: to visit me just for the spectacle of it. I 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: think in most cases they felt better about their home 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: lives when they left because of the chaos that was 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: our household. So imagine there were usually about sixteen of 76 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: us at home at a time. Imagine if we ever 77 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: tried to sit at one table, it would be like 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: that Walton table, you know, the long, long table with 79 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: benches on the sides, if we were ever going to 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 3: all get around a table, and lots of laughter, lots 81 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: of dancing, lots of singing, though most of us sang badly, 82 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: and I still sing badly, but it was a joyful, 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: chaotic home. 84 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, growing up in a large family like that. 85 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: It's clear to see that your mom had such a 86 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: beautiful impact on you. But what kind of lessons do 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: you think you learned subconsciously? 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: Mmm? You know, that's an interesting one. I hope that 89 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 3: this doesn't. 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: Bring the mood down. 91 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: But it was rad or common for me to go 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: to school with a certain number siblings and to come 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: home and to have a new person join our family. 94 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: And growing up in that household taught me things about 95 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: how different people need different things emotionally, so that for 96 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: some of my new little brothers or sisters, or sometimes 97 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 3: my siblings came and triplicate and even among three who 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: had biological connections a hug might help or a hug 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: might hurt. So we learned as a collective family sensitivity 100 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: around things like that. Another really powerful thing that we 101 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: learned was how beautiful diversity can be, how it can 102 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: in fact be a superpower. Is something I try to 103 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: bring to everything that I do. Is that that realization 104 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: I've I've leveraged those learnings in the for profit world 105 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: when I was executive vice president and of finance and 106 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: treasurer at Walmart. As a lawyer, I leveraged it, and 107 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: I certainly leveraged it today at Feeding America. Diverse teams 108 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: win more, no matter how you define winning, Diverse teams 109 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: win more. And we as a family were a diverse team. 110 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: So nobody could beat us at some of the backyard 111 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: basketball games or softball games or yeah, we we were 112 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: a force. We were of course those babinots. 113 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh it's so good though. So you sort 114 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: of I'm wondering, you know, you went into law school 115 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: I did. Was that you sort of trying to figure 116 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: out what it is that was your unique talent to 117 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: give to the world. 118 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: Oh? 119 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now, our grandparents on both sides were sharecroppers and 120 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: didn't have any formal education, and English was not a 121 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: first language for any of them. Folk that French patois creole. 122 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Okay. 123 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: Neither of my parents graduated high school, and the collective 124 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: of all six of those people were absolutely brilliant, and 125 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: it was so obvious. But I got the chance to 126 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: graduate high school and then to go to college. But 127 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: when I was a little girl, I remember so vividly 128 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: talking to my father and telling him in a defiant tone, 129 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: as if I expected him to challenge it, that when 130 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: I grew up, I was going to be a lawyer. 131 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: And I recall that he said, with no hesitation, of 132 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: course you will. Now he did follow it up with 133 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: you argue all the time. At least that way somebody 134 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: will pay you to do it, which I also did 135 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: not forget. But I felt destined to advocate on behalf 136 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: of other people, to use my loud mouth, my big mouth, 137 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: in service of others. I thought I was going to 138 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: be a children's rights advocate, because so many of us 139 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: the normal path to joining our family was because something 140 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: was desperately broken and the one you were born to 141 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: so visible. And I wanted to be a force for 142 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: good for children like us, like my siblings, and me. 143 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: So that's the kind of lawyer I was planning to be. 144 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: That's not exactly the kind of lawyer I became. 145 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: What happened It was the plan. 146 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: I don't even you know, I've been trying to figure 147 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: out what happened. But I always had a head for math, 148 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: and i'd like to believe a heart for people. So 149 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: I went on to law school. And then I was 150 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: sitting in the lobby of my law school, Southern University 151 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: Law Center. 152 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: Go jags out and sitting with. 153 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: My my study partners, and I looked around and you know, 154 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: anybody who's graduated from from Southern who's a tax lawyer? 155 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Because I kind of liked that area, and nobody could 156 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: think of anybody says, Oh, I think that's what I'll do. 157 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: It was the most random thing, and I'm not right, 158 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: I am not random. 159 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 160 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, taxes is not something people are like volunteering to 161 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: exact will. 162 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: So I went to I worked, I graduated law school. 163 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: I hadn't taken any tax classes. By the way, this 164 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: is at the end of law school that I'm thinking 165 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: about this, and I have this epiphany. So I worked 166 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: for Revenue for about nine months and it solidified in 167 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: my mind that it was something that I really enjoyed. 168 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: So then I went back and got another ludgery from 169 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: Southern Methodist University. Southern has to be in every name 170 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: of every school I go to, apparently over in Dallas, 171 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: and I have an lemit taxation. 172 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: And then I. 173 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: Got all of these chances to do all kinds of 174 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: wonderful things. And I knew no one in my family, 175 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: no one that I grew up with, who had the 176 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: kinds of chances that I had, and I kept saying yes. 177 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: To all of them. So I became a tax lawyer. 178 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 3: I worked in government, I worked in Big four accounting, 179 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: I worked in a major law firm. Walmart was my client. 180 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: They kind of like the way I handled things. They 181 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: asked me to come in house. I said yes to 182 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: that too, So I wound up having this career in law, 183 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: but in commercial litigation, but mostly mostly in tax. And 184 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: then went into Walmart, where I did tax, but I 185 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: did finance, and then became the treasurer there. So none 186 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: of that was part of the grand plan. And I 187 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: was quite the planner. 188 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: As a kid. 189 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: I had a whole plan for what I was going 190 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: to do, and I did not do those things, but 191 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: what I did get to do was was pretty extraordinary. 192 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: And what I get to do now, oh my goodness. 193 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: It actually makes me want to cry every time I 194 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: think about the privilege that it is to get to 195 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: do what I do today. 196 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that in a second. But 197 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: first of all, you said you have a head for 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: math and a heart for people. I love that so much. 199 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: Those are words that I would never say, at least 200 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: the head for math part, but definitely, yes, I'm gonna 201 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: have to come up with something for my head. But 202 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: you said you were working at Walmart. You were there 203 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: for a while, like over ten. 204 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: Years, right, that's right, closer to thirteen. 205 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And then again, life took a turn that 206 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: you were into expecting. You were diagnosed with cancer in 207 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and your life changed as it does. Yes, 208 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: can you kind of walk us through what? How do 209 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,359 Speaker 1: you get through? What do you do in those moments? 210 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: Wow? Well, first off, what a beautifully aptly titled podcast 211 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: you have here, Because I definitely chose me. I had 212 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: up until the moment of being diagnosed with cancer, I 213 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: was doing things mostly because I thought, well, I can't 214 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: miss this chance. It was less about I want this chance, 215 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: but more about, well, I can't let this chance go. 216 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to have to say yes to that. Wow, 217 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: are they asking me to do that? Oh, I'm going 218 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 3: to have to say yes to that. The first time 219 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: as an actual professional that I set with my thoughts 220 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: and my heart and said, but what do you want 221 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: to do? Not just what's available to you, but what 222 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: do you want to do? And oh, by the way, 223 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: you don't get always to answer this question. One of 224 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: the greatest gifts in the ugliest package of my whole 225 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: life was that cancer, because it was the thing that 226 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: woke me up to the fact that I needed to 227 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: make a me choice there. And the choice I made 228 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: was to leave a very comfortable situation that I had 229 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: in a company that had shown me a lot of grace. 230 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: I'd gotten so many opportunities to grow while I was there. 231 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: I'd been able to achieve financial heightst I never even 232 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: imagined for myself, although I was a big dreamer. It 233 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: provided security not only for myself but also for other 234 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: family members that I was able to lift up and 235 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 3: send to school and all those things. And that cancer 236 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 3: said it's time for you. 237 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: To go and I'm like, where am I going? I 238 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: don't even know where I'm going. 239 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: I had been gainfully employed every day of my life 240 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: from my first job I worked. I was gainfully employed 241 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: throughout college, throughout law school, throughout law school. Again, I 242 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: had never had any window of time from the time 243 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: I got my first job that I was not gainful employed. 244 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: And I'm saying, I'm about to take a leap, and 245 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: I don't even know where I'm going. But if I 246 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: stayed at Walmart, if I waited until the right opportunity came, 247 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: I was not going to leave. And I knew that 248 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: I needed to leave. 249 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: So I leaped. 250 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: And I feel so privileged that I could make such 251 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: a choice. Most people don't get to make choices like 252 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: that without concern over whether or not their children are 253 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: going to be able to go to school, or what 254 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: kind of lives they're going to have. I knew that 255 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: I had the security where I could do that and 256 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: jump into the insecurity of what the future was going 257 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: to hold. 258 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: So I did. So I leaked, And. 259 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: You left just for the sole purpose of leaping. 260 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: I left because I knew in my bones that I 261 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: had the ability to be of greater service I'd asked 262 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: myself in the doctor's office when the doctor when the 263 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: pathology report came in, I remember, I'll never forget, of course, 264 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: when the doctor actually used those words and told me 265 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: that I had cancer, I remember that. In a split second, 266 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: I asked myself, what if the best thing I might 267 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: possibly do professionally were the best thing I could possibly 268 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: do at Walmart? Would that be okay? And my answer 269 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: was no? And that's why I leaked. Is I leapt 270 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: towards something in the nonprofit space. I didn't know where 271 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: I was going, but I knew it would be nonprofit. 272 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: That part I knew. 273 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: I knew that I was going to dedicate the rest 274 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: of me to service. I knew that it was going 275 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: to be somewhere in the nonprofit space. I knew that 276 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: I had certain passions, but I didn't know exactly where 277 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: it was going to go. I didn't have a job 278 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: offer or even job prospects. But I also, as I said, 279 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: I knew that if I didn't if I didn't leave, 280 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't leave. I find a way to justify staying. 281 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: So I needed to just go ahead and go, and 282 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: I did. 283 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: It's fascinating that you say that cancer was the best 284 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: gift you ever received in the ugliest package, but it 285 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: seemed to catapult you into this next incredible phase of 286 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: your life. Yes, and what a reward. Ultimately, absolutely, it 287 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: was kind of inevitable when you go through something like that, 288 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: it has such a massive impact on your life. It 289 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: changes how you approach life from that point on. I 290 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: mean today, what choices do you make to stay grounded 291 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: or present in your current life and not just to go, go, 292 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: go and do do do all the time? 293 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: Well, I go go, go a lot, and I do 294 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: do do a lot. 295 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: So I don't know if I'm actually the best person 296 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: to answer that question. 297 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: But what kind of self care do you do? 298 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: Well, what I can tell you I'll talk about self 299 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: care and then I'll tell you about the stuff that 300 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: energizes me. Right, But in terms of self care, there 301 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: been a number of moments when I have felt that 302 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: I needed to keep moving and my body has told me, no, 303 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: you don't, It's time to pause, and to know my 304 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: body well enough to know when it is time. And 305 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: the risk of disappointing people experiencing hunger, the risk of 306 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: not showing up for a partner who's out there on 307 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: the front lines trying to help. That's a hard thing 308 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: for me to say no too. But throughout the pandemic especially, 309 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: there were multiple moments when I had to say yes 310 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: to me, and in order to say yes to me 311 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 3: so that I could actually sleep that night rather than 312 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: get on another plane, I had to say not yet 313 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 3: to somebody else. So I love to read, I love 314 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: to walk, I love to dance. I love to sing. 315 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: I mentioned before, I'm not a great singer, but that 316 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: doesn't mean I don't try to sing. 317 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: That's so great. I love it that you don't think 318 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: you're very good, but you still love it. 319 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I love it absolutely. The people around me don't 320 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: love it. 321 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: But I, on the other hand, I absolutely love it. 322 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: I love life. I love new people, new things. I 323 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: love to travel. So there's so many outlets that I 324 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: have that are restorative for me. And sometimes the only 325 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: one that I really need is a bath. Sometimes I 326 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 3: just need to stop, grab a candle mm hmm, and 327 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: go take a bath. Oh hot bath, bubbles. 328 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: Good and salts, salts and bubbles. 329 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: If I feel I've really earned it, these are the things. 330 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: These are the things. 331 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: Oh, I love all those ideas for people tell me, 332 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: how did you come to working with Feeding America. 333 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: Wow, So I'm going to go back to Walmart for 334 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: just a flash, right, So, and well, I'll go back 335 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: one step farther than that. I've always known about Feeding 336 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: America since it started. My parents, as you might imagine, 337 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: were community leaders. As a consequence, Feeding America works inside 338 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: of local communities all across the country. My parents knew 339 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: where the needs were in the little hometown of mine 340 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: of Aplusis, Louisiana, and Feeding America, the Feeding America food 341 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: bank that serves a Kadiana, which is where Appolusis is, 342 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: would actually partner with my parents to do distributions from 343 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: our house. 344 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I never imagined that. Fast forward. 345 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: They were called America's Second Harvest at the time, I 346 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: never imagined that I'd be doing this. So I always 347 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: knew about Being America. When I was at Walmart, I 348 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: was on the foundation board. While on the Foundation Board, 349 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: I got to know Feeding America more intimately because we 350 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: were a major investor in Feeding America's work. We provided 351 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: a lot of food and as well as funds. So 352 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: I got to know it that way there and I 353 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: had a conversation with a lady by the name of 354 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: Kathleen McLaughlin, and she had just joined Walmart. And I 355 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: had a practice whenever a new member of the team 356 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: when women joined the officer group at Feeding America, I 357 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: always reached out and took them out to breakfast or 358 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: to lunch or something. So here we are having lunch 359 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: and she's brand new, and she said she talked about 360 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: what she's doing. By now, I do not have any 361 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: idea that I'm going to have cancer, but I'm having 362 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: this conversation with her, and she's talking about what she 363 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: was going to do. And I said, you know, the 364 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: fascinating thing is if I had to guess what I 365 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: would do with my career, it would be more like 366 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: what you're doing than what I'm doing. And she said, really, 367 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 3: told about my family history, told about what I thought 368 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: I was going to do with my life, etc. 369 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 2: Etc. 370 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: I thought that conversation was in the past. That's whyried 371 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: I leave Walmart. Years later and I got a phone 372 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: call from a recruiter and the recruiter said, we are 373 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: hiring for the CEO of Feeding America. And there's a 374 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: lady from Walmart. Her name is Kathleen McLoughlin and she 375 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: told us that we should really find you and talk 376 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: to you about this opportunity. 377 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Wow, like what look at your breakfast? Your outreach to 378 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: the new employee paid off. 379 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: We paid off. 380 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, did to pay off. And I consistently 381 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 3: tell her anytime something powerful and wonderful happens with Feeding America, 382 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 3: I consistently say a little prayer for Kathleen, and I 383 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: send her a text messages saying, I'm really feeling grateful 384 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 3: to you today. I'm really feeling grateful because she just 385 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: she remembered what I said and she felt it, and 386 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: then she was in a room that I was not in, 387 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 3: and she lent her credibility to me in that moment, 388 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: and the rest is kind of history. 389 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: Now here I am. 390 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 3: I've been here for over six years, and what started 391 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: with that casual breaking of bread with a new person 392 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: has translated into the greatest opportunity for service I've ever 393 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: had in my life. 394 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: That is incredible. How many people in the US are 395 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: suffering from food insecurity. 396 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: At close to fifty million people. 397 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: That's hard to even wrap your mind around. 398 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: Nearly fourteen million children. 399 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's one in five children. 400 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 3: Yes, it's that I mean and both The most tragic 401 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: part about it, the thing that breaks my heart about 402 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: it and that also gives me hopes, gives me hope, 403 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: is the same thing, which is we could solve it. 404 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: It's actually not one of those things that you'll never 405 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: be able to wrap your arms or you'll never be 406 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: able to solve. No, no, no, no, we can solve this. 407 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: This country has more than enough food to feed every 408 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: single person. We waste so much food, We throw away 409 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: so much food. Being America is actually the largest food 410 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: waste recovery organization in the whole United States of America, 411 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: and we're only recovering about a little over four billion pounds. 412 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: Now that's a lot of food, right it is. Where 413 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: do you recover it from? Oh, we recover it from 414 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: the relationships that we have with all kinds of great organizations. 415 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 3: So every major retailer in the United States has a 416 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: relationship with Feeding America, through which rather than throw away 417 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: perfectly edible food, they donate that food to us. Every 418 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: major food manufacturer in the United States has a relationship 419 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: with Feeding America. So if you can imagine, let's say 420 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: you're General Mills, who happens to be one of a 421 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: great supporter of ours in many ways. Let's say your 422 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: General Mills and you go to a town and the 423 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 3: cheerio boxes are bent right perfectly at able ceios. We 424 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: actually have an app that the driver of that that 425 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: of that truck can use to say, to find a 426 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: food bank that's close to them that they can deliver 427 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: that food too rather than get going to waste. So 428 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: that's the way that we do. We have these beautiful 429 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: relationships all across the country with partners who are also 430 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: committed both to resolving issues around waste and making certain 431 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 3: people in communities get access to food. So that's one 432 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: of the ways that we that we engage with people. 433 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: That's one of the things that we do that I 434 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: find so so powerful is when you're solving for food 435 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: and security, it's an interesting thing in a really powerful 436 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: and beautiful way. There are so many things that you 437 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: solve for when you solve for food and security. Right, 438 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: so you can solve for climate by participating in the 439 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: work that we do, because you can make certain that 440 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: food doesn't go to landfills, but instead the way that 441 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: we're talking about it. We even have a challenge going 442 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 3: on right now, which is the food rescue challenge, and 443 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: the way that we're phrasing it is from access to 444 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: access right and you get to participate in something I 445 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: get to be a part of that that does that. 446 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: But we also get donated foods directly, We buy a 447 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: lot of food. We participate a lot in federal commodities 448 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: programs where farmers, growers, and producers in the United States 449 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 3: make certain that people here get access to the food 450 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: that they need to thrive. So lots of different outlets 451 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: for and outreach. That helps to support the network that 452 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: I'm a part of. 453 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: And we need more. 454 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 3: The lines, unfortunately, have continued to grow. That usually is 455 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: shocking to people. Most people think that the highest rate 456 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: of food and security in this country over the last 457 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: several years would have been during the peak of the pandemic. 458 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: But that's not true. During the pandemic, we as a 459 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: nation had an awareness of food and security because those 460 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: lines were so long on the outsides of buildings. Now 461 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: the lines have gone back to the insides of buildings, 462 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: and people they think they've gone away. The food and 463 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: security rates have gone up because we've actually lowered the 464 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: amount of resources that are available. So it's been it's 465 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: been a real challenge, and yet I see resiliency everywhere 466 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: I go. I see my goodness. I'm so inspired by, 467 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: especially by people experiencing hunger with the heroes that they are. 468 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: The way that these moms making a way out of 469 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: no way, the sacrifices they make, how hard they work 470 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: to make certain that their kids get the things that 471 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: you and I want for ours, It's really inspirational. 472 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, with so many people though 473 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: needing help. I think you talked about does it ever 474 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: become overwhelming for you? Like, do you ever just pan? 475 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: I can say I can't do it all and I 476 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: want to do it all. I mean, I can't imagine 477 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: that that's hard to confront, to deal with. 478 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: Oh, of course there are moments, of course there are. 479 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: I in fact, I remember having the good news is 480 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: nobody is expecting me to do it all except me. 481 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes. 482 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: There's so many people, i'd say hundreds of thousands of 483 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: people across the country who step up to do this 484 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: work as a part of the anti funder community. But 485 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: I do remember my father. My mother died eleven years ago, 486 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: and my father died two years ago in December, and 487 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 3: his last illness was dementia, and I won't forget that. 488 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: This is the guy that I went to defiantly and 489 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 3: told him at twelve, when I don't think a lot 490 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: of people would have bet on my ability to become 491 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: a lawyer. When he, without hesitation, said that he knew 492 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: I would that guy. I returned to him and he 493 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: seemed to be sleeping, and I was really I visited 494 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: him every month during the pandemic. I found a way 495 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 3: to get there to Opelousi's. So I was in his 496 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: room and I thought he was sleeping, and I said, Daddy, 497 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: I just don't know what to do. I mean, this 498 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: is a lot, you know, people are counting on me. 499 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: How how am I going to step up? Am I 500 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: am I able to do this? And I didn't know 501 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: he was awake, and he opened his eyes, and of 502 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: all moments for him to be lucid, it was that moment. 503 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: And he looked over at me, and I was sitting 504 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: next to his bed, and he said, do you do 505 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: you just just be you clar call me Clarice, just 506 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: be so. Yes, those moments come, but after that moment, 507 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: I can hear him say it to me. And remember 508 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: I said, he's one of the smartest people I've ever known. Figure, 509 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: if he thinks I can do it, there must be 510 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: something inside of me that he saw and surely it's 511 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: still there. So I can go do this. 512 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: M believing in yourself. Yeah, it's hard to do sometimes, 513 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: but it's the key. It is how can people get involved? 514 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: So one way is to donate, right they can go 515 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: to Feeding America dot org and there they can find 516 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: ways to donate. They can donate at the national level, 517 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: or they can donate at the local level, or they 518 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: can do both. If they only have room for one, 519 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: I would say, donate it the community that means the 520 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: most to you. On Feeding America dot org there's actually 521 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: a food bank locator and you just punch in the 522 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: zip code of the community that you care the most about, 523 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: and up will pop up a food bank that's serving 524 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: that community. I know that to be true because Feeding 525 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: America this network serves every single county and parish in 526 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: the wholy United States of America and Puerto Rico. So 527 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: we are there in that community that you care about. 528 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: So you can donate, you can advocate, you can use 529 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: your voices to say that this matters, that you care 530 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: about it. You can make certain that policy makers know 531 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: if this is one of the things that you feel 532 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: that we ought to be united on, not divided about. 533 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: And you can volunteer. Oh my goodness, you talked about 534 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: it earlier. But what feels better than to know for 535 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: a fact, especially in moments when so many things feel 536 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: like they're outside of our control, that you can roll 537 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: your sleeves up and you can be helpful, you can 538 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: be of service, right, and you can. And I have 539 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: an expression I use and maybe someone else used it 540 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: before me, but the giver receives, and it's true, the 541 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: giver receives. There's a special way that I feel a 542 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: special unity in community that I feel that I only 543 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: feel when I've got my sleeves rolled up, and I 544 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: only feel when I'm out there volunteering. So you can donate, 545 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: you can advocate, and you can volunteer, and you can 546 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: find ways to do all three by going to Feeding 547 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: America dot orgy dot Orgie. 548 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: That's right. The work you're doing is phenomenal. So grateful 549 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: to know you and be a small tiny part of 550 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: helping the cause. Before I let you go, Claire, I 551 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: would like to know what was your last I choose 552 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: me moment. 553 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: Oh, you know what, it was probably last night, and 554 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 4: maybe this isn't a great one, right, but you know, 555 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 4: I had been traveling. 556 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 3: I just got back from Atlanta, where I had an 557 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: opportunity to go out and thank one of our real 558 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: big donors, investors in our work. And I was tired, 559 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: and I'd already eaten way more than I should. But 560 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: I got home and as I opened the door. I 561 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: live in Chicago, that's where we're based, primarily opened the 562 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: door and this aroma hit me. It was gumbo in Chicago, 563 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: in Chicago, and my husband was in the kitchen cooking it, 564 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, I'm not even hungry. But you know what, 565 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: choosing me was choosing to eat a bowl of that 566 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: gumbo last night. And I did and it was fabulous, 567 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: and I thank my husband, Barry Fontno, for preparing it. 568 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: And every now and then, every now and then, I 569 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: have found choosing me can be something really big, like 570 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: choosing to dedicate my talents to an organization like Feeding America, 571 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: or could be something really small like lighting a candle 572 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: or listening to music or singing, or on a night 573 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: like last night, there was something extra special about choosing 574 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: that bowl. 575 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: Of gumboats the gumbo. 576 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: It was the gumbo. It was the gumbo. 577 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: I really loved our conversation. Thank you. I hope that 578 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: everybody listening I feel the same way as I do. 579 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: I feel hopeful, I feel some sort of piece in 580 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: knowing that you are leading this charge because you are 581 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: truly a gift. 582 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate you and everything 583 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: you do, and thank you to your audience and everything 584 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: they're already doing, solvable challenges that we can do together. 585 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: I'm glad to be a part of it too. 586 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Claire, Thank you. Wow. FACA to Claire is 587 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: so inspiring. I just I love how much passion she 588 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: has for her life and all the wonderful work that 589 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: she's doing with Feeding America, helping so many people. If 590 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: you want to volunteer donate to Feing America, I highly 591 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: suggest it. We'll be sure to leave their info in 592 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: our show notes. As we continue to choose ourselves each week, 593 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: I want to challenge you to making a difference in 594 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: someone else's life this holiday season. There are so many 595 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: incredible organizations out there, and this time of year people 596 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: can really use a helping hand. So whether it's volunteering 597 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: at a food bank, or collecting canned goods, or even 598 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: just cleaning out your closet and donating some of your 599 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: clothes or blankets that you're no longer using. Let's all 600 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: just take some time to think about it this week, 601 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: and let's do something. Let's give back to those around 602 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: us who could use some help, because when we choose 603 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: to give back to others, we're also choosing to acknowledge 604 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: our our own blessings and practice gratitude. Thanks for listening 605 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: to I Choose Me. You can check out all of 606 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: our social links in our show notes. Make sure to 607 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: spread some holiday cheer, and rate us and review us, 608 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: and use the hashtag I Choose Me whenever you feel 609 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: like it. I will be right here next week. I 610 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: hope you'll choose to be here too,