1 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: All right, what my linking is live. 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, June twenty fourth, the or World 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: War twenty twenty one will be watching the live stream. 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: I know it seems kind of walky, but for those 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: of you watching the replay, it's all going to make sense. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: And the end jam packed show tonight. Summer has officially started. 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: By the time we get out of summer, we will 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: be three weeks into the college football season. So just 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: to give you a little idea of context and where 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: we are and grand scheme of things time time. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: My favorite hooting the Bluefish song. 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: By the way, we got a jam packed show tonight. 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: The Arizona State dossier, which you heard me talk about 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: last week, and a lot of you gave me feedback 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: on last week. I have a little different angle to 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: take on tonight. We got to go a little bit 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 2: further in depth on that because I think maybe what 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: I said last week was misconstrued into thinking that I 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: was somehow endorsing every step that the NCAA has taken 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: and implementing rules on this. 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: It's not like that at all, But yet rules are rules. 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: So we're gonna dive a little bit further because that 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: dossier and parts of it have started to lead. 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: How about twenty twenty one with Dan Mullin. 25 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: I think this is probably it's not his make or 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: break season or anything like that, but I think it's 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: a defining year for Dan Mullin. I'm gonna give you 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: several reasons. I was talking to someone about this earlier 29 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: today and I just decided, hey, let's make it a 30 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: topic on the show. Also talking earlier today on Twitter 31 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: about Georgia and Texas A and M, and I said, hey, 32 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: if someone were to come from the future, they told 33 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: you I just came back from twenty twenty five and 34 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: one of those two has won a national title? 35 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: By them? Do you want to guess which one it is? 36 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Where would you go? 37 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Clause voting was very close, could be headed for a runoff, 38 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, voting very close on that. 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: All that plus big twelve swing games, and we got 40 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: some more too. 41 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: So make sure you're following the social channels at Late Kick, Josh, Instagram, 42 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: and Twitter. And I appreciate you guys so much getting 43 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: us over fifteen hundred five star reviews on the Late 44 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: Kick podcast. I mean, we're approaching sixteen hundred now. But man, 45 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: I was scrolling through some of those five star reviews today, 46 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: and you can leave a written review while you do that, 47 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: and we had one from a guy named Tim, and man, 48 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: I got to read you guys this because this was 49 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: how I started my day. 50 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: We get a lot. 51 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: You'd be surprised at how many emails I get that 52 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: are like this, But this one was public, and so 53 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: because it was public, I figured I could share it 54 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 2: with you guys. Tim puts in his podcast review, I'm 55 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: at home recovering from a severe cancer related surgery and recovery. 56 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: Without ever smoking or chewing or drinking in my life, 57 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: I've developed aggressive tongue cancer. It's been difficult, two major 58 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: surgery so far, nine months in. I picked up on 59 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: this show one afternoon while browsing YouTube, and I was hooked. 60 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: It was the best, most consistently high quality, frequently posted 61 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: show on college football available. Not only that, it's helped 62 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: keep my mind occupy with something other than the tough 63 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: road ahead and the pain I'm facing. Thanks to Josh 64 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: and Crue for helping keep it positive. I want to 65 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: tell you, Tim, i've never met you before. That meant 66 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: the world to all of us. I mean it meant 67 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: the world to us more than you can know. And 68 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: I know a lot of times we joke around on 69 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: the show about how we don't have an off season. 70 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: We don't acknowledge the off season. But there's a lot 71 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: of seriousness to it too, because once upon a time, 72 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: I was telling Colin before we started the show tonight, 73 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: this pales in comparison to going through something like cancer. 74 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: But once upon a time, I was working a job, 75 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: just a normal job I didn't like, and I remember 76 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: that what got me through the day was listening to 77 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: shows that I like. And so to think that we're 78 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: in a position now where whether you're a truck driver, 79 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: whether you're in a hospital, whether you're in a bad 80 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: family situation, or whatever, the fact that we could be 81 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: in a position to put out a product that's scaled 82 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: enough at this point and has spread enough to where 83 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: we can actually impact just a little bit, just microscopic 84 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: change and positivity in people's lives. It makes us take 85 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: what we do very very seriously. So I want to appreciate. 86 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: I want to thank you, Tim, We all appreciate it, 87 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: and prayers to you. Brother, keep us updated whatever come. 88 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you can email me if you don't want 89 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: to put it out there publicly, Josh paid seven zero 90 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: six at gmail dot com. 91 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: A lot of you do that. 92 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: This is not the first email or feedback we've ever 93 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: gotten like that, by any stretch. But yeah, always love 94 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: even if it's tough for you guys to submit things 95 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: like that, because it makes the show more than just 96 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: to show it kind of makes it community. All right, 97 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: let's shift gives here. Let's dive into the show tonight. 98 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: This whole Arizona State dossier thing. You know, we found 99 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: a perfectly good reason to use the word dossier in 100 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: college football. A lot of you watched the show last week, 101 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: and if you didn't, maybe you saw the Arizona State 102 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: individual video and you remember when this story was breaking 103 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: last week. If you don't remember, the very very quick 104 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: ten second summary is we had a dead period for 105 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: fifteen months in college football because of COVID. You weren't 106 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: allowed to take visits anywhere, you weren't allowed to have 107 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: kids on campus, and Arizona State apparently violated that. 108 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: Now, again, the. 109 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: Evidence has not put it has not been input in 110 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: front of us individually. But Pete Famili, yeahoo's doing a 111 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: pretty darn good job of coming as close to it 112 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: as possible. But I talked about that last week and 113 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: I told you it's a big deal. I told you 114 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: I thought people were going to lose their jobs because 115 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: of it. And sometimes you, guys, surprised me. Not often, 116 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: but sometimes you do. And you surprised me last week 117 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: because when we did that segment, you came back and said, 118 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: this is not a big deal. A lot of you did, 119 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: hundreds of you in the comment said this is not 120 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: a big deal. Yawn collectively, and why are you over 121 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: dramatizing this. 122 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: You're misleading. Even your video. 123 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: Title, which I think said Arizona State may be done, Guys, 124 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: it is big. 125 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm not misleading you at all. 126 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: I think where the disconnect is here is a lot 127 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: of you are looking at what Arizona State is in 128 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: hot water for, and you don't like what the letter 129 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: of the law was. You think that the way the 130 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: NCAA implemented the dead period and the length of which 131 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: they implemented that dead period was stupid. And you had 132 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: a problem when I even suggested that someone's going to 133 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: be punished for not adhering to that. If you haven't 134 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: watched this show very often, let the familiar viewers fill 135 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: you in on the fact that there was no one 136 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: who railed against the complete and utter stupidity of the 137 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: way the NCUBA handled this, especially towards the end of it. 138 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: Then yours Truly, I didn't agree with it any more 139 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: than a lot of you. Just like when I drive 140 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: through downtown Atlanta, I don't agree with the fact that 141 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: it's only fifty five on an eight lane portion of 142 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: seventy five eighty five north and south. But it is 143 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: fifty five, and so if I go through it, they're 144 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: at eighty and I get popped. They got every right 145 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: to write me a ticket because I violated a law. 146 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: And so right now, here's the situation behind the scenes. 147 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: A lot of coaching staffs didn't like this. A lot 148 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: of coaching staffs looked at the way the NCAA dead 149 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: period was dragging on and on and on. 150 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: And they said, this is stupid. 151 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: We could find ways to responsibly host recruits in their families, 152 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: but yet they were told no, And so they begrudgingly 153 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: adhered to the standing law of the LAMB, and one program, 154 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: at least one program apparently didn't. So yes, it's a 155 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: very big deal, and it's a big deal, because it 156 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: doesn't sound like there's going to be a whole lot 157 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: of investigatory work has to be done on the NCAA's 158 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: part here. So what's new, Because I'm not just here 159 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: to summarize what we talked about last week, what's new? Well, 160 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: what's new is, as of this morning, Pete famil Over 161 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: at Yahoo Sports released another in now several versions of 162 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: this story where he apparently got his hands on that dossier. 163 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: And you're looking on the screen right now if you're 164 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: watching on YouTube about some of the notable takeaways from 165 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: what the family's story contained. Among the submissions inside this dossier. 166 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: I'm using the dossier word as much as possible. It 167 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: listed ten staffers and thirteen prospects that the person who 168 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: submitted this thing said you need to investigate. They send 169 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: it to Arizona State, and they sent it to the 170 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: nc DOUBLEA and apparently Yahoo Sports also we had specific 171 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: allegations with receipts and screenshots showing payment for illegal visits. 172 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: You're privy to this sort of thing if you're a 173 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: former Arizona State staffer, and we had allegedly security camera 174 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: footage of herm Edwards with a prospect. 175 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: Now here's where it really got juicy. So you'll go 176 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: later on in that piece. 177 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to break it down for you, but 178 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: you go later on in the Pete Famil story, and 179 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: it said we could not at Yahoo Sports independently verify 180 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: that it was HERM Edwards. However, the person in question 181 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: was wearing a hat very similar to the one that 182 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: HERM Edwards normally wears. That is quintessential NCUBA investigation stuff 183 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: right there. This is not exactly the FBI were talking about. Look, 184 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: here's the takeaway again. Let me restate very clearly for 185 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: the folks in the back, it doesn't matter what you 186 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: and I thought about whether this should have been a 187 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: rule or how long it should be implemented. 188 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: It was. And so now I want to remind you 189 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: what we said last week. This serious. I think a 190 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: lot of people. 191 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: Are going to lose their jobs because this is not 192 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: going to be a normal NCUBA investigation. For many reasons, 193 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: this is not going to be a normal nc DOUBLEA investigation. 194 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: First of which you have former staffers totally willing, ready 195 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: and able to go on the record. Pete Fammil admitted 196 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: it and reported as much in a Yahoo Sports story Secondly, 197 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: you've got documentation, you've got screenshots, you've got group text, 198 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: you've got receipts, you've got all sorts of. 199 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Proof of travel being paid for. 200 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: Again, according to this story, you have the ability to 201 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: leverage a prospect's future eligibility against them if they won't 202 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: cooperate with the investigation. And then you also have the 203 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: added ability and in all likelihood they will exercise this 204 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: to offer immunity if you're the NC DOUBLEA, to offer 205 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: immunity to prospects in exchange for that testimony. 206 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: So for all of those reasons, I think this is 207 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: going to go. 208 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: Way quicker lightning speed in relation to the snail's pace 209 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: that this stuff normally goes at. And number two, yes, 210 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: I think it's a very big deal. It's just that 211 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: our opinion on whether it should or shouldn't have been 212 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: a rule doesn't really factor in here. It was, it 213 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: was violated egregiously. It looks like and there's going to 214 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 2: be you know what to pay for it from Arizona 215 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: State's point of view. So that's all I'm saying about that. Yes, 216 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. Let's move on, all right. So last year, 217 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: Florida had a very unique season last year. I think 218 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: we all remember that. And so I arrived. I was 219 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: driving back home last night from Columbus. I was driving 220 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: up to Nashville, and I was thinking about different coaches 221 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: and what the perception is versus what the reality is 222 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: out there. 223 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: And so let's talk about Dan Mullen here. 224 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: I think twenty twenty one is going to be the 225 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: defining season for Dan Mullen, even though he's been at 226 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: Florida several years now. Context is so important in life, 227 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: and context is important in college football. 228 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Think about winning the lottery. 229 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: Not all lottery winners are equal. Some live happily ever 230 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: after some have their lives just implode in on themselves 231 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: like a dying star. And similarly, if we were to 232 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: go to this point last year, number one, it would 233 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 2: be great. If I told you, hey, you're going to 234 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: have a football season, everyone rejoice. But then number two, 235 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: if I were to tell you, Florida fans, you're gonna 236 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: beat Georgia, you're gonna win the East, you're gonna have 237 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: a Heisman Trophy finalist, you would just assume we're about 238 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: to hit our big lottery. 239 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: But then I say, hold on, I got. 240 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: The sh of your mouth and I tell you, but 241 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: you're not gonna get it done against Texas A and M. 242 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: But you're going to implode spectacularly against LSU. You're going 243 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: to then lose to Alabama. No shame in that, But 244 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: then you're gonna totally no show a Bowl gaming gets 245 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: splattered against Oklahoma. That is the downside of the lottery winner. 246 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: That's your cousin stabbing you in the back. That's your 247 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: wife leaving you once she takes half, and that's your 248 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: family all turning on you and your kids hating you. 249 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: That's that kind of lottery winner. That's how the season 250 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: ended for Florida. And so now we arrive at twenty 251 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: twenty one. And I said this today and I'll reiterate 252 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: it now. It's very strange to be four years in 253 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: Dan Mullen's entering is four season now at Florida. It's 254 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: really weird to be four years in at a very 255 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: high profile program and to have a lot of people 256 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: still kind of on the fence as to you know 257 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: who you are, are, Like, what is Florida football under 258 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: Dan Mullen. Well, the answer to that being unclear still 259 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: is why I think twenty twenty one in many ways, 260 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: is a defining year. 261 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: Why is it a defining year? 262 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's simple because Dan Mullen hasn't defined himself fully. 263 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: I don't think he's defined what Florida Gator football is 264 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: fully under his tenure. Twenty twenty was not a coronation, 265 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: as it turned out. Again, if I were to have 266 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: told you in the preseason, gonna win East, gonna beat Georgia, 267 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: gonna have a Heisman Trophy finalist, you would have thought, okay, well, certainly, 268 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: even if we don't win the SEC or we win 269 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: a national title, they will be saying about us at 270 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: the end of the year we have arrived. They weren't 271 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: saying that. You guys in Gainesville weren't even saying that. 272 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: But it did serve as a reset button because even 273 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: though things were disastrous towards the end, there was a 274 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: certain element of kind of a reset button hit because 275 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people going into last year found it 276 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: very popular and very in vogue to say things like, well, 277 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: Dan Mullen can't beat Kirby, Well, you can't say that 278 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: once he beats him. Well he can't win the East, 279 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: Well you can't say that once he wins the East. 280 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: So reset button. 281 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: Reset button also got that very very popular talking point 282 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: at this point with Florida and Dan Mullen, which is, well, 283 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: he can't recruit now, he can't recruit a number one class. 284 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: He hadn't recruited a top five class they've recruited. Well, 285 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: it's just all about context. Okay, what do you think 286 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: Florida recruiting should be. My personal opinion is, yeah, I 287 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: think they should be better than they are. But guys, 288 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: they're averaging a top ten finish over the last few 289 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: years under Dan Mullen. It's not like they've been hanging 290 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: out in the mid twenties and the low thirties like 291 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: they've done good. 292 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: It's just that's it. They've done good, or maybe even 293 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: really good. 294 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: They haven't been elite, they haven't been great, and it's 295 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: all within the context of who you have to face. 296 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: You're looking at their schedule right now if you're watching 297 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: on YouTube. They got Bama in Week three, severe underdog 298 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: even at home against Alabama because they don't recruit on 299 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: par with Alabama. They go to LSU, there'll be a 300 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: big underdog. They don't recruit on par with LSU. You 301 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: got Georgia the next week. They do not recruit on 302 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: par with Georgia, and so any given year you're talking 303 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: about a quarter to a third of your schedule given 304 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: the pace they're currently recruiting at. Being against teams that 305 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: are going to feature better roster than you, that doesn't 306 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: mean you can't beat them. They handled Georgia last year. 307 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: It just means everything has to come together every time. 308 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: Because you see the way I look at the twenty 309 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: twenty Florida team, it's a very mixed result. 310 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: There are a lot of good takeaways. 311 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: It's great that you beat Georgia, that's one of if 312 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: it's great that you won the East. It's phenomenal that 313 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: Dan Mullen took a quarterback he didn't even intend to 314 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: start initially and ended up sending him to New York City. 315 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: That says a lot about the capability of your program. 316 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: But then I also look, on the other hand, about 317 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: the inability to have a team ready to play LSU, 318 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: the inability to have quality depth to where you can 319 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: afford to lose a starter here and there and still 320 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: maintain the same cruising altitude and the same speed. Florida 321 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: can't do that with their current talent. 322 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Roster. 323 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: Now you start adding layers of depth and you can't 324 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: afford to do that. But look, it doesn't really matter 325 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: whether you're pro Dan Mullen or anti Dan Mullen, whether 326 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: you're sold on him Gator fan or not, whether you're 327 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: sold on him as the guy who can take you 328 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: to the mountaintop or not, because all that's just talk. 329 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: Eventually the season gets here. This one, I think is 330 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: very significant. Within this context, is hard to me to 331 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: handicap the future of Florida under Dan Mullen. And when 332 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: I say future, let me be clear, I mean within 333 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: the context of can they win an SEC championship? Can 334 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: they win a national championship? Should always be the goal 335 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: at Florida. You should be recruiting at an elite level. 336 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: You should be contending for national championships every year. I 337 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: think the NFL noise after last year meant something. It 338 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: certainly didn't mean nothing. You could have arguments about whether 339 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: it was ever serious. I think it was serious on 340 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: Dan Mullen's part. I think there was a lot. 341 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: Of interest there. 342 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Now some guys can turn that switch on and off. 343 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: Some guys can look elsewhere and then when they look 344 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: back over here, they can be totally razor sharp, focused 345 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: and zoned in and it doesn't affect them. I'm in 346 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: the remains to be seen camp on that, but we'll 347 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: know very early. So that's again one of the many 348 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: reasons why I look at twenty twenty one as a 349 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: defining year, because if that little theory is right, if 350 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: there were serious overtures made, or if there was a 351 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: lot emotionally from Dan Mullen's point of view, invested in 352 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: maybe trying out the NFL waters, a normal person could 353 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: run the risk of checking out mentally on his current job. 354 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: Now, Dan Mullen's not a normal person. 355 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: You don't rise to the level he's at in the 356 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: industry being a normal person. However, it's just something to 357 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: keep an eye on, okay, because if you see them 358 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: operating at a high level early in the year, forget 359 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: about all that that's meaningless. The second thing that you 360 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: then focus on is Emory Jones. Emory Jones holds a 361 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: lot of the cards here because Emory Jones, obviously, for 362 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: those unfamiliar quarterback it's going to start for Florida this year. 363 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: He's not a true freshman. That's a guy who's been 364 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: on campus several years now. So whatever Dan Mullin's going 365 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: to do with him from a developmental standpoint, it should 366 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: be done by this point. And so you're going to 367 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: see it now. There is no substitute for in game reps. 368 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: But short of just being able to start an entire season, 369 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: Dan Mullins got what he's got in Emory Jones. I'll 370 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: tell you what could go a long way and changing 371 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: the narrative here. That's just flat out Emory Jones being 372 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: a lot better than. 373 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: You think he's going to be. 374 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: Because I can tell you what the popular sentiment's going 375 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: to be for Florida going into this season outside of Gainesville. 376 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: People are going to think they're going to take a 377 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: step back. For production wise, they're going to take a 378 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: step back. Emory Jones is not going to be as 379 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: good as Kyle Trask. Let's see all the preview magazines 380 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: tell me they've got only what five or six returning 381 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: starters on offense, and so the perception is going to 382 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: be they're going to be down. That's not a bad thing. 383 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Perception doesn't matter. They don't give you wins and losses 384 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: for perception. If anything, I think it's a good thing 385 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: because it doesn't mean that you've got a white hot 386 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: spotlight on you coming into twenty twenty one. But here's 387 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: the thing about lukewarm expectation. 388 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: You better not fall short of the lukewarm expectation. You 389 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: fall short. 390 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: Of the insane like high end expectation, like Kirby does 391 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: sometimes with Georgia. That's one thing, because you can go 392 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: ten and two and still fall short. But if they're 393 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: expecting eight wins from you and you go seven and five, 394 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: or if they're expecting nine from you go eight and 395 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: four to seven and. 396 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: Five, that's a little bit different deal. 397 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: I think twenty twenty one is such a huge year 398 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: because this is not a roster void of championship caliber talent. 399 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: They don't have it in as plentiful as supply as 400 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: the other big boys. But make no mistake about it, 401 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: if things click starting at the quarterback position, if things 402 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: really click for Florida, you know, if Dan Mullen is 403 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: who I and many people think he is as a 404 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: developer at that position, you saw what happened last year 405 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: when quarterbacks figured out. You saw what can happen in 406 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: a lot of other positions. You get that synergy. It 407 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: felt really good at times last year for Florida and 408 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: then kind of got a race down the stretch. So 409 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: let's have a lot more front end than back end 410 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty as it relates to twenty twenty one. 411 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Let's continue. 412 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not done talking about the SEC, but 413 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we can't make it an SEC show, So 414 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wrap the show in a few minutes with 415 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: this whole Jimbo Kirby, Smart Texas A and M Georgia 416 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: really interesting, really unexpectedly heated debate right. 417 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Now going on. 418 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 2: In fact, I'll pull my account up and let you 419 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: know I don't need to do this for like ten minutes, 420 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: but let you know where these numbers are because I 421 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: didn't expect it to be that close. 422 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: Anyway. 423 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that in like five minutes. 424 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: In the meantime, we roll on with our big swing 425 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: games for each conference. Tonight, we're doing the Big twelve, 426 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: and I did something that we haven't done so far. 427 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna do two games for one team. 428 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: So let's roll into this. The swing game is not 429 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: your biggest game necessarily. The swing game is the one 430 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: that when we look back at the end of the season, 431 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: we circle and say that's really what led to this result. 432 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: That was the impetus for how the rest of the 433 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: season ended up unfolding. Let's start with Oklahoma, the overwhelming 434 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: favorite to win the Big Twelve. I think oklahoma swing 435 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: game is when TCU comes into Norman week seven. This 436 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: is very important from a scheduling dynamic standpoint to understand 437 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: that it falls right after a stretch that sees Oklahoma 438 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: go to Kansas State and you may not really think 439 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 2: much of that, but they do it Oklahoma because they 440 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: lost to Kansas State last year. 441 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: So you got the revenge spot on the road. 442 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: Then you've got the game against Texas, and what comes 443 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: after that two game stretch, you've got TCU. So if 444 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: you're watching on YouTube, you see Oklahoma's entire schedule here. 445 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: I know you see Iowa State down there at the bottom, 446 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: and everyone's got high expectation for Texas at the quarterback 447 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: position with sark Intown. But could you find me for 448 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: certain on this schedule you're looking at a quarterback that's 449 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 2: going to be beigger better than Max Duggan. I said, 450 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: for sure, you could throw half a dozen of them 451 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: at me. You think, maybe what if Max Duggan is 452 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: the best quarterback that Oklahoma faces regular season this year. 453 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Could be he could be. 454 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: That's not to take anything away from my guy brock 455 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: perty up at Iowa State. But I'm just saying, with 456 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: an offensive line, we have no clue what Max Dougan 457 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: is gonna look like because he didn't have one last year. 458 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: So this could be a sneaky game here. 459 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: I am really I'm high on Oklahoma as a legitimate 460 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: championship contender. Okay, so when I look at this TCU game, 461 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: I think to myself, a fringe playoff team could stumble here, 462 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: but a legitimate championship contending team they take. 463 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: Care of business here. They pull away. 464 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: It's thirty seven to seventeen late in the fourth quarter. 465 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: That's the kind of dominant performance you would expect even 466 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: coming off the Texas game. So remains to be seen there. 467 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: How about Texas. I got two games for Texas. I 468 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: could not narrow it down to one, and to be honest, 469 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: I didn't tell No with this, but I gave serious 470 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: consideration to sending three Texas games. The first one is 471 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State at Texas. 472 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: This is in Week seven. No, we got the Sooner 473 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: game highlighted there. 474 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: But it's Oklahoma State at Texas in week seven, and 475 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: I want you to think about this. Okay, this is 476 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: a very I think it's probably the tough scheduling dynamic 477 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: spot in the Big twelve. You've got a stretch where 478 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: Texas goes at TCU, versus Oklahoma, and then against Oklahoma State. 479 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: If you're watching on YouTube, you can read that if 480 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: you're listening to the podcast, kind of trying to lay 481 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: out for you how that schedule plays out. Oklahoma State 482 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: the third in a stretch of three very tough games there. 483 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: Coming off the Oklahoma game, the Cowboys are off a bye. 484 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: So here's how Texas opens the season. They have seven 485 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: games before Texas has a buye and this is going 486 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 2: to be the fifth time in those first seven games 487 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: where the Horns will be a seven point favorite or less. 488 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: In some cases they'll be an outright underdog. But what 489 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm telling you is there are a whole lot of 490 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: losable games here. They could be undefeated, things could go 491 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: off the rails a lot of variants, and this is 492 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: going to be probably one of the big contributing factors 493 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: to that. And the other Texas game I picked was 494 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 2: week two, and then we're kind of going in reverse order. 495 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: But the second swing game for Texas is at Arkansas 496 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: in week two. How does any Texas fan look at 497 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: this game and feel confident you're taking it? Feels like 498 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: half your roster is going to be made up of 499 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: freshman or sophomores who have never played in a pack stadium, 500 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: and you're gonna go into Reynolds Razorbacks Stadium, and man, 501 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a super Bowl atmosphere for them up 502 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 2: in Favele, make no mistake about that. And you've also 503 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: got to ask yourself, even though this is only week two, 504 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: what has happened to Texas the week before? At this 505 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: point they opened with Louisiana, which, obviously, if you understand 506 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: college football, is not your guard variety G five FCS 507 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 2: cream puff opener. And after this game, so those opening 508 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: two games are tough for Texas. After that, they still 509 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: have at TCU, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma at Baylor, at Iowa 510 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: State at West Virginia. 511 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's still a long way to go. 512 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: You come out of this one in one or zero 513 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: to two, it's gonna be a tough year. You come 514 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: out of at two and Oh, it could still be 515 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: a tough year, but man, it's important. It is vitally 516 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: important for Texas to start early. Also, remember you got 517 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: a lot of big time recruits out there at twenty 518 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty twenty three and beyond that are 519 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: wanting to see some kind of offensive validation to what 520 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: they're being sold right now, fast start very important for Texas. 521 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: How about Iowa State. 522 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: Obviously all the national attention for Iowa State is going 523 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: to be focused. 524 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of late in the year. 525 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: So Iowa State plays Oklahoma, what is it like Week 526 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: twelve or Week thirteen, second to last week of the year, 527 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: and that's where all the national attention is going to 528 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: be because the perception is there's only one. 529 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: Place that Iowa State can go from here. 530 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: They got to beat Oklahoma, win the Big Twelve, make 531 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: the playoff. Otherwise, you know, they already made the Fiesta 532 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: Bowl last year, like they already finished second, they already 533 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: finished runner up, and they won the Fiesta Bowl. 534 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: And so that's where the focus is going to be. 535 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: But their final seven games are tough, and I circled 536 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: their trip to West Virginia in Week nine as their 537 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: big swing game. West Virginia is on the road. It's 538 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: kind of a tough one because I don't think people remember, 539 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: they don't process West Virginia when they think Big twelve. 540 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: You just think all these teams in Texas and up 541 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: through the Great Planes, and then you got West Virginia 542 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: one thousand miles away from the closest team, and so 543 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: it's tough for these teams. A lot of times when 544 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: they have to fly east, it's not easy on them. 545 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: And it's normally an early kickoff, so that's always there too. 546 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: It's a big revenge spot. West Virginia's coaching staff will 547 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: tell you this is the only game they really feel 548 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: like they just totally no showed. Last year they got blanked, 549 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: they got it run up on them in Ames, Iowa. 550 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: So this is a return trip here. They're at West Virginia. 551 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 2: Are the Iowa State Cyclones the week before they played Texas. 552 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: Big swing spot there. And lastly, how about Oklahoma State. 553 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring Iowa State in here again. Oklahoma State 554 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: at Iowa State in Week eight, that's the big swing 555 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: game to me for the Cowboys. This has been a 556 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: one possession game six straight years now, which I didn't 557 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: know until about forty five minutes ago. It's gonna be 558 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: one of those classic perception versus reality games. Your perception 559 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: is gonna tell you Iowa State's a or preseason not 560 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: perennial preseason top ten team. 561 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State is not that. 562 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: But yet you look at how close these games are 563 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: every year, and you look at how even though Iowa 564 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: State is operating at maximum efficiency right now, it's not 565 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: a team loaded with the kind of athletes Ohio State 566 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: has or Alabama has, meaning they can't show up, put 567 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: their B minus effort on the field and just count 568 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: on winning these kinds of games. And so it's one 569 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: to watch their second straight road game for Oklahoma State. 570 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: So they're in time. Hire season could be made in 571 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: this stretch. They go to Texas and they go to 572 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: Iowa State. How about those two back to back. I 573 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: think their season will be defined there now that I 574 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: look at their schedule more so, those are our big 575 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: twelve swing games. Do we venture to the West Coast? 576 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let the comment sector dictate that for next week. 577 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: I wanted to wrap the show with a very unusual segment. 578 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: I don't do these a whole lot, and I didn't 579 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: know that I was going to do this today, only 580 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: I went on Twitter earlier and I asked a question 581 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: kind of in passing, and you guys made it really close. 582 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: So now I got it pulled up in front of me. 583 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: Here you go, Colum. 584 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: If I were to ask you Georgia or Texas A 585 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: and M, no context, what would you say? 586 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: And then I add context in a little bit later on. 587 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: But if I were just say Georgia, Texas A and 588 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: M and you just make up in your own mind 589 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: what that means, what would you say? I'm going to 590 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: give you the context in the second. I think a 591 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: lot of people when they do the whole comparative cross 592 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: division thing right now in the SEC, it's Georgia and Alabama, 593 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: because you normally, the way your mind's going to work 594 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: is you take the top team from over here, and 595 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: you're perceived. 596 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: Top team from over on this side. 597 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: Even though Florida won the East last year, most people 598 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: still think Georgia is the top program over there. But 599 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: I don't think there is a comparison for Alabama in 600 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: the SEC. What I think is a lot more accurate 601 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: and a lot more competitive comparison. As it turned out 602 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: to be, validated today is Texas A and M and Georgia. 603 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: So now here's the context I put on Twitter earlier today. 604 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: Let's say someone arrives from the future. They've been hanging 605 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: out in twenty twenty five, and they guarantee you one 606 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: of these two has won a national championship by them, 607 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: who would it be? Now, I gotta be honest with you. 608 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: I thought this was going to be seventy thirty Georgia. 609 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 2: As of right now, this has been up ten hours. 610 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: It's sitting at fifty two point six percent Georgia, forty 611 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: seven point four percent Texas A and M. Let's think 612 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: about this. You may be surprised at that too, I am. 613 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: Let's think about this. Both programs obviously led by Nick 614 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: Saban assistance. You got Jimbo out in College Station, you 615 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: got Kirby at Georgia. They're both several years in. So 616 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: neither one of these is a new staff or a 617 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: new coach anymore. Limitless resources in both places, fertile recruiting 618 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: ground in both places, says both fan bases, absolutely starved 619 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: for a title, would crawl over broken glass naked if 620 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: it meant that's what it takes to win a national 621 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: championship right now, and each program for it seems like 622 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: an eternity has felt like they're just a quarterback away. 623 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Now in college football, one year can seem like an eternity. 624 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: I think my answer is Georgia to this. But it's 625 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: not a slam dunk. But I'll tell you why. My 626 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: answer is Georgia. If one of these two is going 627 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 2: to win a title over the next four years, I 628 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: think it'd be Georgia only because it's inevitable when you 629 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: look at who we're talking about here. 630 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go through Alabama. 631 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: And I've seen Georgia go up against Alabama several times now. 632 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: I saw him back to back years twenty seventeen to 633 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen play classic games against Bama where they you 634 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: could make the argument, outplayed them and ended up being 635 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: on the wrong end on the scoreboard at the end. 636 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: But the bottom line is they've traded punches with Alabama. 637 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 2: Texas A and M has yet to trade punches with them. 638 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: Texas A and M has been run on the building 639 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: thus far in Jimbo Fisher's tenure every time they've played Alabama, 640 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: and so if that is the hurdle you've got it clear. 641 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: I've watched Georgia clip it with the bottom of their 642 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: sneaker at Texas A and M. They've got bloody shins, 643 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: i got a busted kneecap. They hadn't come close to 644 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: clearing that Alabama hurdle. And the second thing here is 645 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: I really believe in the subconscious of the college football public. 646 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: I think people hold Georgia to a little bit higher standard. 647 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: You may not admit this, or maybe you do, or 648 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: maybe you don't even realize it, but I think sometimes 649 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: when we start to watch recruiting rankings roll in and 650 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: you see a team like Georgia, you see a coach 651 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: like Kirby smart keep stacking those top three classes and 652 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: number one rated classes on top of each other, your 653 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: expectation level for that program starts to rise, which is fine, 654 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that, but you start to judge 655 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: them and grade them differently. I want you to think 656 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: about last year. Last year, Jimbo Fisher had a quarterback 657 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: that felt like he'd been on campus for a decade 658 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: in Kellen Mont and Kirby trotted out Stetson Bennett, and 659 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: that was a whole fiasco in and of itself quarterback 660 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: position at Georgia, and so it was perceived that Georgia's 661 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: offense was a disaster last year. And then out in collegiation, 662 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: you've got an offensive guy in Jimbo Fisher, and he's 663 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: got a multi year starter at quarterback. They both averaged 664 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: thirty two offensive points per game last year. The offenses 665 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: were like identical, and we perceived Georgia to have been 666 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: a mess last year offensively. I think you're just holding 667 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: them to a little higher standard than Texas A and 668 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: M in your mind. 669 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: I get why you're doing it. 670 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: But when we're comparing apples to apples here, I think 671 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: i'd lean Georgia. 672 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: But what the public says about. 673 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: Kirby Smart, I think can kind of be said about 674 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher. And I'm a guy who's sky high on 675 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: the future of Texas A and M. This has not 676 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: been hard to see coming. I mean, they've recruited very, 677 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: very well. It's not that they've been deficient from a 678 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: talent roster standpoint. 679 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: When they faced Alabama, I've been at these games. 680 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: I've been at a couple of A and Mbama games 681 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: on the field these past couple of years. Athlete for athlete. 682 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: They match up very favorably. I mean the eyeball test, 683 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: they look like Alabama. I watched them against Clemson a 684 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. They looked more physically impressive to 685 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: me and the Clemson. The difference is Clemson has a 686 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: cat at quarterback any given year that can run up 687 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: and down the field on you, and Texas. 688 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: A and M does not. 689 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: And so what they say about Kirby at Georgia is 690 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: he cannot recruit and develop the quarterback position and he's 691 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: too stubborn to evolve offensively. But here's the little secret 692 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: out in college station. You talk to some aggie fans 693 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: and you get them one on one where they're not 694 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: embarrassed to be talking publicly, and you just ask him, 695 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: you look him in the eye, what do you think 696 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: about your offense? They say some of the same stuff 697 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: about Jimbo Fisher, and I echo that cinement because I 698 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: watched Texas A and M, and from a pure outsider 699 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: fifty thousand foot perspective, it aggravates me sometimes when I 700 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: watched the degree with which I think Jimbo Fisher chokes 701 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: his offense a little bit too much. 702 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is it feels like. 703 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: Every first down that they record, so many things had 704 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: to go right for it, and it feels like you're 705 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: just laboring down the field and it's so hard. It's 706 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: got to be hard for an A and M fan 707 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: when you flip the channel and you turn on Alabama 708 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: and you watch they're just oops, always scoring another touchdown. 709 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: It's almost like Alabama accidentally does it sometimes. And then 710 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: you're watching europe squad and you ask yourself that Sabing guy, 711 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: he's a defensive guy, and our guy, Jimbo Fisher, I mean, 712 00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: he's an offensive specialist. 713 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: He's a quarterback guru, quarterback whisper. 714 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: Well, look, I think Jimbo Fisher philosophically has to understand 715 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: eventually out there. I'm not going to be the one 716 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: to sit here and tell anyone to simplify their offense. 717 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: Far be it for me to do that. What I'm 718 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: saying is they got the athletes to just let them run. 719 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Texas A and M. 720 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: You could make the argument that's one of the best 721 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: running back and wide receiver stables in the conference this year. 722 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: We don't know what they're going to get at quarterback 723 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: from Haines King, but the point is, I love to 724 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: turn on an A and M game every now and 725 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: then and see Jimbo Fisher instead of having that huge, 726 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: like Warren Piece novel of a play sheet in front 727 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: of him, I'd like to see him go Mike Leach 728 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: a little bit more and have that little palm sized 729 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: play sheet in front of him that says, you got 730 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: a bunch of horses, let him run. I'd love to 731 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: see A and M's athletes be put in a lot 732 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: better position consistently to make plays because. 733 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: They got them. 734 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 2: They got him this year to the degree better than 735 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: which they've had them. 736 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: Any given year. 737 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: So if I'm looking out over the expanse of the 738 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: next five years, who knows, maybe Jimbo Fisher does tweak 739 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: some things, or maybe we wake up tomorrow or this 740 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: time a year from now and they've struck gold in 741 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: the transfer portal at the quarterback position, or maybe we're 742 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: watching this year and Haines King is that guy that 743 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: just explodes onto the national scene. My point is that 744 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: could change the answer entirely to this question. That's why 745 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: it's not a slam dunk for me. That is Georgia, 746 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: and apparently it wasn't for you. Guys either, because I 747 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: mean again, we're in borderline runoff territory here. If we 748 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: get a late surge of Texas A and M love, 749 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: we could be in runoff territory. So yeah, I go Georgia. 750 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: But that's again, that's not a slam dunk to me 751 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: by any stretch. Really appreciate you guys watching the show. 752 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: Had some technical trouble early on, but got past that, 753 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: as we tend to do around here, So always a 754 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: big thanks. 755 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: Make sure make. 756 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: Sure and triply make sure that you guys are following 757 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: the Twitter account and the Instagram account at late kick 758 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: Josh and subscribing to this here YouTube channel really helps 759 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: us out. Liking the videos, commenting, but but subscribe to 760 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: that thing. It helps more than you know. And always 761 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: love you guys. If you're talking about us on Twitter, 762 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: if you're talking about us on Instagram, make sure you're 763 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: tagging so I can smoke. 764 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: The love as much as I can. 765 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: For Director Emeritus Colin, for our entire from down here 766 00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: Fort Lauderdale, I'm Josh. 767 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: They have your son's a great start to you. We 768 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: can pick up the song 769 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: Mm hmm.