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Speaker 1: sounds like they thought it was amusing Tanya the mother.

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Speaker 1: she was charged with fleeing to Mexico with her son.

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Speaker 1: They withdrew thirty thousand dollars from a bank. He dodged

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Speaker 1: us out of there. Forget about triple a um Nancy

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Speaker 1: while he's out on probation, I mean straight probation for this.

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Speaker 1: The PR goes berserk and mommy dyes his hair and

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Speaker 1: in Mexico till the faithful Domino's order. Now, mommy who

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Speaker 1: and possession of alcohol. There you have it. This is

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Speaker 1: what I know about affluence, E Tene and his mom

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Speaker 1: at this hour. Nancy Grace Crime Stories. Thank you, ladies. Duke,

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Speaker 1: I'll deal with you later. Goodbye, friend. H