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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Waken. Jake, myself, Jake Story, Ellie BBD.

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Speaker 1: As we talk about, oh boy, the all disappointing team

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Speaker 1: tough title, scared to put it on a graphic. Don't

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna if I'm being honest, because we're too

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Speaker 1: friendly with a lot of players and teams at this point.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think for the social graphic, I think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see the eight Weeks to Turn it Around team.

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Speaker 1: The YouTube's real, and these guys have had disappointing seasons

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Speaker 1: and I think they would tell you that. I think

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Speaker 1: what sparked this thought, well, hey, pretty normal thought. B

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Speaker 1: I think the Pete Alonso conversation kind of set me

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Speaker 1: down this direction. I know Rosie and Plofy talked about it.

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Speaker 1: For me, Pete, I thought Pete did everything perfectly, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: some people did get mad about the math there, but

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Speaker 1: Pete did say close to forty homers, so like he

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Speaker 1: did everything perfect. And I it was funny that this

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Speaker 1: happened because on mon I think before this quote, there's

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Speaker 1: a conversation in our in our lunch room, I was

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Speaker 1: talking with Jolly and he was he was talking about

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Speaker 1: how Alonso season was a little bit down. Uh that

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Speaker 1: he was kind of like, Hey, if we had if

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Speaker 1: we had Pete Alonzo's best right now, we may have

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Speaker 1: passed the braves. And I think that's an interesting argument,

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Speaker 1: and that's the feeling a few Mets fans are having.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Alonso on the other side, on Pete's defense,

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Speaker 1: if he does have even if he has one good

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Speaker 1: month at this point, like what's a good month for

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Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo, Like he could sneak up on ten homers

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Speaker 1: pretty easy, that his end of year numbers are gonna

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Speaker 1: look good, but he's got to finish strong. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be an interesting one. If he finishes strong, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be talking about a big boy Pete Alonso contract. Some

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Speaker 1: gm uh is gonna be able to pencil in thirty

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Speaker 1: five forty homers a year on their white board in

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Speaker 1: their office. You can't find those guys easily. If Pete

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Speaker 1: does limp down the stretch, it's gonna be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see what the final numbers look like and what he

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Speaker 1: feels like. So that led me into the thought exercise

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Speaker 1: of the all disappointing team Bump Bump Bomb. I mean,

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Speaker 1: part of me hates it, but part of me wants

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. With everything we did before the

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Speaker 1: season with tier lists, which we had, a couple old

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Speaker 1: wounds opened up looking at some of these players, some

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Speaker 1: bad wounds for us myself and Jolly, some bad wounds

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Speaker 1: for the fans that were critical on some of the

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Speaker 1: commentare and man, I guess I'll tee it up before

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Speaker 1: we do this one. A lot of Texas Rangers were

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Speaker 1: eligible tough seeing that huh yeah, after the year they

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Speaker 1: had they won the World Series World Series hangover.

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Speaker 2: I might be like.

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Speaker 1: I was on the bus for that, but I might

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Speaker 1: be like chips on the table.

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Speaker 2: Part of what we like loved about the twenty two

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Speaker 2: Braves is that like they had enough parts in right

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Speaker 2: from their championship and Ronnie like missed that run?

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Speaker 1: Ronnie? Did they bring in who else? Was that old?

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Speaker 2: I think that's first year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I think I'm all in until a

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Speaker 1: team bucks the trend The New York Yankees. Why is

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Speaker 1: he always bringing up the Yankees? Saw that in the

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Speaker 1: comments and the guy was actually should get partial credit.

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Speaker 1: I talked more about the Yankees in the open last

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Speaker 1: last episode than I wanted to. Let's get into the

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Speaker 1: beef of it start working in that phrase. Uh, let's

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Speaker 1: go around the horn. I feel like, wasn't there another

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Speaker 1: team that It just felt like they had way too

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Speaker 1: many candidates. Oh, there was a few Cardinals candidates.

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Speaker 1: Brewer that I for sure remember. Yeah, let's uh, let's

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Speaker 1: dive in and we start out behind the dish. That's

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Speaker 1: where I always start out when I'm doing my baseball list.

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Speaker 1: And man, this one was a tough one for me

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Speaker 1: because there was a clear winner, and it's why I

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Speaker 1: teed it up for the Texas Rangers. It's jonah Heim.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we got really excited for this guy. He was

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Speaker 1: massive switch hitting catcher. Seemed like a big part of

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Speaker 1: trade with Dane Acker and Chris Davis for Elvis Andrews

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Speaker 1: and Ugly February of twenty one trade. He was two

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Speaker 1: trades before that too, was traded for traded a lot

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Speaker 2: Believe Jolly did a short on that a year ago

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Speaker 1: The moving parts of baseball. Jonaheim last year, I just

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Speaker 1: left because this popped up. But he he was an

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Speaker 1: All Star last year. He was on the All MLB

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Speaker 1: you know, we do all JM which is dropping today

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Speaker 2: To this this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: So think about that and whether you agree with it

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Speaker 1: while being a switch hitting catcher. Eighteen homers, ninety five RBI.

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Speaker 1: You guys know, I'm still a little bit on the

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Speaker 1: RBI bus. You need opportunities, but you need to drive

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Speaker 1: them runs in and Jonaheim looked like he was a

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Speaker 1: blossoming twenty eight year old all star one oh six

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Speaker 1: ops plus part of this vaunted Texas Rangers lineup that

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Speaker 1: seemed like they were gonna click year in year out.

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Speaker 1: Jonah hein two thirty two, a two seventy seven on

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Speaker 1: I guess this is where I'll do our normal talking

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Speaker 1: baseball line. Uh, you guys know your team better than us,

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Speaker 1: is it? Something you're seeing Rangers fans. Is there something

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Speaker 1: tough sport. Because this happens to guys. Uh. And again

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Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys, hopefully it's one year.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys have track records, and maybe that's

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Speaker 1: the other thing I'll put out there right now. I

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Speaker 1: we heard from an exec Lorenzo Caine had one year,

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Speaker 1: uh during his good baseball playing seasons that his numbers

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Speaker 1: tried to play through it. That happens with guys. And

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Jonaheim shoulder surgery. You're like, well, should

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Speaker 2: You've been bothering him since spring.

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Speaker 1: Anyways? Uh So, Jonaheim, sorry my guy, Uh, but you

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Speaker 1: I think Bibbes you threw out a oh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Usually the catch or position you can if you're playing defense,

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Speaker 2: you'll you'll at least get enough war to not scream

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Speaker 1: And I guess that's the other thing that I should

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Speaker 1: decisions weren't necessarily like worst player, negative war. Like Gavin

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Speaker 1: Sheets has some tough numbers. There's it's why it's the

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Speaker 1: underperforming team. It's your expectations. I'm a big expectation guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't don't know what I expected from Gavin Sheets

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Speaker 1: this year. Kindly, I know what I expected from Jonah

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Speaker 1: him and it was more than that. Kirky's numbers tough

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Speaker 1: spot Kurky, but he's framing those low pitches. He's about

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Speaker 1: I started to wander into this thought process, I saw

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Speaker 1: the Pete Alonzo interview. I looked at some of the

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Speaker 1: check ins on that to give you guys updates, Like

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, if you're if you're looking at your team,

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Speaker 1: some of you guys half your teams, you're starting to

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Speaker 1: look at next year, you might be looking at a

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Speaker 1: free agent or what do we need at this position? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Luckily for him, he's gonna land on the honorable mention

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Speaker 1: list and not the winner. Uh my guy, Reese Hoskins,

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Speaker 1: the numbers are in just a funky spot. He's very

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Speaker 1: much in the territory. If this was a true eight

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Speaker 1: Jonah him, I don't think he can like save his

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's again, like all these guys are enough

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Speaker 2: time to make it better, Like Reese can still.

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Speaker 1: Research numbers can still he's got a positive op plus.

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Speaker 1: He gets hurt by the defense. He's never rated out

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Speaker 1: super well defensively, but he's got nineteen homers. Like, you know, Reese,

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Speaker 1: I said about if he finishes strong, if rees finishes

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Speaker 1: And it's just tough because he's such clockwork that I

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Speaker 1: we haven't talked about Reese in a while, and he's like.

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Speaker 2: A nice start to the year and we hadn't really

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Speaker 1: So he's a talking baseball favorite that I was like, uh, oh,

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Speaker 1: he is not the winner. It is another NL Central

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Speaker 1: first basement, it's Paul goldschmid Man. They slid him down

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Speaker 1: Every time there's a moment, it's like, wait, is poly coming.

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Speaker 1: He had three hits in a homer against the Cubs.

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Speaker 1: I think he's currently on an OH for quick math

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Speaker 1: at least an OH for fourteen. And this is on

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Speaker 1: top of a season that I don't know. We're two

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Speaker 1: years removed from him winning twenty twenty two. He won

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Speaker 1: the MVP last year. He took I mean steps back,

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Speaker 1: Uh eighty eight ops plus this year on everything is

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Speaker 1: down obvious, that's how you get to those numbers. Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: little bit. Luckily, I know the second base position pretty

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Speaker 1: well because this is where I think myself and Jolly

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Speaker 2: But like one seventy seven that might have.

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00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: Been might have got it. I mean Dan's we got

432
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: paid paid.

433
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

434
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: And those offensive numbers you just can't have.

435
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: That got it Google, You gotta know, I don't mean

436
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: his Dodgers contract for nine.

437
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: No, that's tough. Oh, Jason Hayward athletic, so he beat it, Okay,

438
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: aav It's dancey For the expectation for Danzy Swanson, those

439
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: those numbers are not acceptable. Uh. The other option was

440
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: kind of our sea Bebes threw that one out there. Again.

441
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit less expectation from Arcia,

442
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: But he went nuts last year, and actually I take

443
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: it back a little bit. He was nuts through the

444
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: All Star break and then he came back down to earth.

445
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: He actually had an ops plus that fell under one

446
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: hundred last year, huh, which is crazy to think about

447
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: in that Braves lineup. But you know it's still for

448
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: a short stop. Seven forty one ops. He was seven

449
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: thirty three the year before in limited action he was

450
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: an All Star. That is what it is. And I

451
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: mean for half a season he bawled out, which you

452
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: take that? This year Arcia, seventy seven ops plus. Remember

453
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: the whole conversation him von Grisham. Arcia took over. The

454
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: job was gangbusters. This year he's just been back two

455
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: twenty six, two seventy one, six thirty eight. But like

456
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: I said, with the expectations of it, you expect Dansby

457
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: to be providing on the offensive end Arcia. Like if

458
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: you had to pick a shortstop that the rug might

459
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: be pulled out from under this year probably be Arcia.

460
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: That's tough. Huh. That's that's a little too. I'm on that.

461
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I wonder where he was in our

462
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: tier list. Might need you to research that beeps. Can

463
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: do ready for some egg on my face? There, Dan Sby,

464
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: let's go. Maybe Mallory gets the gold. Vibes are high.

465
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: The Cubs surge from nowhere, not buying it. Haven't bought

466
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: in on the Cubs except I did pick their over

467
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: on the over under because I thought they would buy

468
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: it the deadline. They weren't good enough.

469
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: He landed in our third tier from the bottom. Okay,

470
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: in a tier that we called don't look at this

471
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: line please?

472
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Is that only him?

473
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: Well him, it's Trevor's story and it's Tim Anderson. Wow.

474
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: I think that I think the row. I think that

475
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: row was about, like, we're respecting your resumes right now.

476
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: This is where you're at unknown rookies and the Kenny

477
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 2: Pickett tier, which was which was your hobby bias your

478
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: nick Ahmed? Yeah, I think it's called the young they're

479
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: out there just for their fielding rookies Rokio Uh. I'm

480
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: looking at in Oakland A and Mason Win and Nick Allen.

481
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: They're below the Hope tier of Abrams, Vultpy, Tovar, Caballero, yeah,

482
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: Pinion Netto and per Domo.

483
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: Wow. A clear line in the tiers there and that's

484
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: your kids love them lists. Okay, spend more time on

485
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: that than I thought. Uh, let's go to the out

486
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: because man, there is another one that like had to

487
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: be on the list, and I do think I'm gonna

488
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: do it. As we do on All JM. You need

489
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 1: a center fielder for the all disappointing team, and then

490
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: you need two corner outfielders. The two corner outfielders that

491
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: jumped out the most of me are right fielders. But

492
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: I do have the honorable mentions with them. So I'll

493
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: start in center. And this one might sting or might

494
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: not because it became a topic previously. I'm going with Julio.

495
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: You know, some of Julio's numbers are okay, a lot

496
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: of them are not. And this was the guy that

497
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: there was MVP buzz coming into the season. It was like, hey,

498
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: as long as as long as he doesn't get off

499
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: to that frigid start, Julio should be fine. He got

500
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: off to the frigid start, he did the thing like

501
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Leo on the couch meme, and then he had a

502
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: worse June than the than the first two months. Right

503
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, oh, he's coming out of it. He's

504
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: coming up his Nune's coming at his worst June one

505
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: hundred games in eleven homers, eighteen stolen bases, a three

506
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: seventy two slug for an eighty six eighty seven ops

507
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: plus or excuse me, ops ops plus. He's currently landing

508
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: at one oh one, which again just proves that Seattle,

509
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: what are we.

510
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: Doing, like you guys need to do with ballpark credit.

511
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: You guys need to do a Cleveland Guardians and take

512
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: out a couple shelves so the ball goes because I

513
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: think you might break your player spirits. Another number that

514
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: jumps out strikeouts, I don't care about if you're walking, uh, Julio,

515
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve strikeouts to twenty four walks. We

516
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: gotta work on that pop.

517
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: That's just.

518
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: That's a tier below where you need to be. If

519
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: you're the player you're supposed to.

520
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Be twenty seven percent strikeout rate, would love it lower.

521
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: It's not. You know, there's a lot of guys above

522
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: that on the list. The five point eight percent walk

523
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: not nearly enough to with that strikeout number, especially, and.

524
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean this was another controversial tierless guy, right everyone

525
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: who's mad?

526
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: I think Jolly really most controversial on the show.

527
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: I thought to not put him on top, right, Yeah,

528
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: Jolly wanted to as I recall, I need to see

529
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: it man. And I think Seattle fans hit their tipping

530
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: point a little bit this year of like, not only

531
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: are we doing the slow start again, but we're here.

532
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 2: Uh.

533
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: Julio beat out Cedric Mullens for me. Cedric Mullens numbers

534
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: are down this year again, slightly different expectation levels. Julio

535
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: MVP Cedric. You'd hope he'd be like in contention for

536
00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: an All Star or something. He has that little bit

537
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: of wiggle if something clicks. Oh, I just clicked Rance

538
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Mullinick's page instead of Cedric Mullins Rance Mullinix. I think

539
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: I've done that before. I know a guy named Rance.

540
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: How about that said, he can get some of the

541
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: counting stats into an like he's got nineteen swipes this year.

542
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: If he could get the numbers to league average for

543
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: what he provides defensively, there's.

544
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Time to get it to league average rate stats and

545
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: the counting numbers where you'd want him. It can become

546
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: a fine season.

547
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: He was a guy I fought for more because he

548
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: had a clear line in last season that his numbers

549
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: went down after he got hurt, but this year he

550
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: hasn't been it for Baltimore that there was a lot

551
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: of trade rumors for them for their center field position.

552
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: Cedric can get back to okay, but definitely disappointing for

553
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: a guy that you know on the bad Orioles, he

554
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: was the entertainment. Cedric was in the third tier of

555
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: center fielders. He won't be there next year. I doubt.

556
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I doubt Judge and Trout were

557
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: in the happy o'tan he's gone tier. Yeah, sure, are delicious.

558
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: Get out of here. It won't work for the freak

559
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: sneaky dark Knight. Great line in the tier with Mullins who.

560
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: That third tier was likable lefties and it was Bellinger,

561
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: Threedele Mullens and outmen.

562
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: Man Mullens and Outman Down. Fred's been hurt a lot.

563
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Let's see if anything happens. Belly's kind of been Belly.

564
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't I don't hate that spot for where he's been.

565
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: They're above the hundred million dollar mystery box tier of

566
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 2: Jung Hu Lee Byron Buckson and Jackson Churio. Jeez Shesh

567
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: Churio figuring it out at all. Yeah, that's good.

568
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Two wars.

569
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's first lefties. I think he's been really figuring.

570
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Churio's numbers. Yeah, Okay, good for the crew. Uh,

571
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: let's do the two guys in the corners because these

572
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: two are frustrating just because they're such postseason stars. Nikki Castillanos,

573
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: as much as I love anything he does or any

574
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: clip we get out of him, negative war right now,

575
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: two ninety one on base OPS is almost one hundred

576
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: points down from last season, and it's just tough. He's

577
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: got a he's got an every other year thing going

578
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: on right now. Twenty twenty one, All Star, nine to

579
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: thirty nine OPS. First year in Philly, kind of tough,

580
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: kind of sad, six ninety four OPS. Last year, he

581
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: bounces back. He's one of the more consistent consistent Phillies

582
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: seven eighty eight. This year he's back under seven as

583
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: we speak again, because he's played every day. Some of

584
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: the counting stats can find a spot and there has

585
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: been some pop, but just tough, like you're in year out,

586
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: you'd you'd like to think Nikki c would be a

587
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: little more consistent. I wouldn't be shocked if he does

588
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: it in the postseason. Speaking of doing it in the postseason,

589
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: doles Garcia was the guy and it had a massive

590
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: year thirty nine homers last year, got better every year.

591
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Was entering like felt like he was about to enter

592
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: in a more elite level even and he has gone

593
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: the opposite direction. After that thirty nine homer one hundred

594
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: and seven RBI season. He's at eighteen and fifty four,

595
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: which those aren't two daunting but a two to zero

596
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: nine batting average, two to seventy three on base a

597
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: slug at three eighty six. It felt like he was

598
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: on the cusp of being kind of a known commodity

599
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: for like regular sports fans, like, oh that guy in Texas,

600
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: he's roped up, he went nuts in the postseason last year.

601
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: He's part of their formula. Unfortunately, he's part of the

602
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: list of Texas Rangers that just ain't been it this year.

603
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: The backups, well, bumps, the mic, the backups for those

604
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: two alexf Reduco has entered the chat again. Expectation was

605
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: to be a round league average hitter, if not a

606
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: little more. Again, maybe that contact life is just tougher

607
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: than all of us think it is. Is there, who's

608
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: the best contact hitter this year? Oh, like a Rise

609
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: is still hitting over three hundred, but the ops is

610
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: very low, Like there's no one slapping it around hitting

611
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: three twenty right now.

612
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm trying to figure out the quickest way

613
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: to find a good sword on this like it used

614
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: to be.

615
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be batting average and if there's

616
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: a guy just without pop that stands out.

617
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at batting average trying to see what

618
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: slugging percentages stick out. Ahmed Rosario is the first one

619
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: that kind of fit. And even that Nope, like he's

620
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: he's slugging a good amount above is on base tough

621
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: to be a contact cat man. Least a Rise fourteenth

622
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: in batting average three seventy nine.

623
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's still doing it what we've now expected

624
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: him to win batting titles for du Goo supposed to

625
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: be one of the better contact bats in the game.

626
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: The hitting just hasn't clicked for him. Defensively, it was fine,

627
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: and he got off to an okay start that I

628
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: think expectations wise, he loses to Castianos and at Alas.

629
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: I also put Liotis Stavares on here, so Rangers fans.

630
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: He's my other honorable mention, just the guy. Last year,

631
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: the Leotis Stavares conversation was always like, and look at

632
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: this guy at the bottom of the Rangers lineup, center

633
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: fielder talented doing is the switch hitting? Are you kidding me?

634
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: Texas is full of riches? Not this year, And that's

635
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: how the cookie crumbles at DH. I'm gonna put Mitch

636
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: Garver there, Sorry Seattle, Sorry al West. I guess man,

637
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: this was one that didn't pass my sniff test in

638
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: the nicest way to Mitch Garver, who has some really

639
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: strong offensive stats from twenty one to twenty twenty three.

640
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: But the other thing that jumped out the games played

641
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: had been limited, whether injuries or catching or whatever. It

642
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: may be for the Mariners to make him their DH

643
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: move thinking that the light bulb had fully gone on

644
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Speaker 1: in his early thirties. That just doesn't happen a lot.

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Speaker 1: That Again, the thing that I pointed to at the time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep pointing to Jock Peterson. Jock Peterson,

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Speaker 1: what was Jock's contract? One for fourteen? I think Mitch

648
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Speaker 1: got two for two for twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I believe there's any asumption stuff. It's worth at least

650
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Speaker 2: twelve point five million.

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Speaker 1: I mean, dude, that's where Garver's at.

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Speaker 2: I think it's baseline is one for nine point five.

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00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: I think that's buyout stuff that like, he's guaranteed LD.

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Speaker 1: Five, but Mitch is getting paid twelve five this year.

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Speaker 1: So that's one for me. That you've seen Jack Peterson

656
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: every year of his career, he's gone out and hit

657
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Speaker 1: right handed pitching some years at different levels, not a lot.

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Speaker 2: Always good.

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00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: That guy was out there, and you decide to go

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00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: with the Mitch Garver. Maybe it's all clicked right now,

661
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: mid thirties, some injuries in there. Uh so tough again.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to rip in a Mitch.

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Speaker 1: But sixty seven batting average one sixty seven batting average,

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Speaker 1: sixty five ops plus on Jock, that's nuts, fan.

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Speaker 2: I know they're like the lefties, the platoon's part of it,

666
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Speaker 2: but you're gonna hit like that against the righties.

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Speaker 1: I don't care, don't care. There's a lot of righties.

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Speaker 2: Drop him. Whenever the righty reliever.

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Speaker 1: Comes, go sign Hanser Alberto. He'll hit some lefties for you.

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00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: We can find that guy. They exist dramatic. The other

671
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: I put Josh Bell down. I know, he just got

672
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: traded to the Snakes and he had a two homer day,

673
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: so maybe he has a classic classic Josh Bell traded

674
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: figures it out, but he was disappointing for Miami this year.

675
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: They had a lot of disappointing stuff going on. And

676
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: then yeah, I mentioned uh, Jeff McNeil with the basement

677
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: just because it tied in well, because we're talking labor.

678
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: I had him listed as the util because you know,

679
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: he still moves around a little bit. I who I

680
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: was gonna have is my backup second baseman.

681
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: Man.

682
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: This is a guy whose name got thrown around in

683
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: the offseason a lot. This is a guy Yankee fans

684
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: were interested. And I get these players confused sometimes. Uh.

685
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: Nolan Gorman, Nolan Gorman on the interstate right now, one nine. Uh,

686
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: there's still some pop there. He's got his homers. He's

687
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: gotten nineteen on the season. So it's like, okay, Nolan Gorman,

688
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: you're there. But coming off a year where he hit

689
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: twenty seven homers, hit an eight to five ops, six

690
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: seventy nine, you know he's twenty three last year, Like

691
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: you think this guy was a prospect. You think the

692
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: trajectory's going up. Uh, you know, he went from cornerstone

693
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: piece to now it's like, what are we doing another guy?

694
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Forty one strikeouts, thirty three walks. That's just in the

695
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: words of mister Girardi, it's not what you want. Got

696
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: thirty eight percent strikeout Yeah, I mean he's he's sneaking

697
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: up on He's seven strikeouts away from last year's total

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00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: in one hundred plate appearances off.

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Speaker 2: He's always been, you know, decently above thirty percent strikeout rate.

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00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: But uh, you figure that's the thing that even if

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00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: the results weren't there for a year, you'd think working

702
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: on that, working on that, you like, see that number

703
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: come down. That makes you feel better about the long

704
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 2: term viability. But also, young players, sometimes a year.

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00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Like this happened one year. There's a hole in your swing.

706
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: Maybe he is hurt, maybe it's something else, Maybe baseball

707
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: is really hard. Uh. For whatever reason, pitchers always stink

708
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: to do on any of these lists, the lineup's a

709
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: lot more fun. I'm just gonna list them quickly because

710
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: I also when I sorted these out to search, I

711
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: did them by qualified, which means I'm definitely missing a

712
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: few players. But it's funny, I guess players wise, you

713
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: don't miss out on a ton because it's a lot

714
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: easier to be qualified there if you're playing semi regularly.

715
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: Even the pictures to hit the innings requirement is still

716
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: like a problem.

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00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: That we I think we come out and it's like

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Speaker 2: twenty something pitchers qualified.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a discussion, like more guys we need

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00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: to boss up because pitching has just viewed differently. The

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00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: three that really stood out for me Kevin Gossman with

722
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. I want to know what happened because

723
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: he was like an ace of the game for a

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00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: couple of years there he's been having a bad time.

725
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: Marcus Stroman, who we've gotten to watch up close and

726
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: personal and has falling apart a little bit. Sinker vl

727
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: is down the movements, down, bad combination, and then Miles Michaelis,

728
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: who I don't know. I don't know what Cardinals fans

729
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: expect from him at this point, but his numbers unfortunately

730
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: went toe to toe with the worst pitchers in the league.

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Speaker 1: So uh man, BBD tell our socials team that graphic

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00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: graphic guys on vacation can't say all disappointing team, but

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Speaker 1: we'll say it here because we want to have the

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Speaker 1: conversation with you guys, and hopefully hopefully their conversation ends

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks when we're circling back on

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Speaker 1: guys finishing out their year. So, hey, thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying the Olympics and the baseball football

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Speaker 1: is coming doing my fantasy draft this weekend? Sure, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys, and thanks to Uncle Dan.

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Speaker 2: Waken Jick is a production of Dan Patrick Productions, John

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Speaker 2: Boy Media, and Workhouse Media. Yeah