1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh let's do Hi Am 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. 3 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all on Podcast one 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: Love Productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast. Welcome to a recap 5 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: of season three, episode twelve, lorele I Out of Water. 6 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 2: Special guest is Smith Show. She's an actress who appeared 7 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: in Entouragi Are, the reboot of night Rider, Jane by Design, 8 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 2: and one episode of Gilmore Girls Season four, episode three, 9 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: The Hobbit, the Sofa, the Digger Styles and It's not 10 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: a real estate agent and a wine shop owner. Welcome 11 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Smith to the show. 12 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: How you doing? 13 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: Hi am good? How are you good? 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: God? 15 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: So we're going to get into this now. Lorlei goes 16 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: on her date with Alex but agrees to go fishing. 17 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: So Luke steps into Helper and Luke meets a beautiful lawyer, 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: and Lane and Dave's relationship is moving forward until missus 19 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: Kim steps in. There's Your Synopsis directed by Jamie Babbitt, 20 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: written by Janet lay He. So Luke is annoyed at 21 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: Taylor for all the construction going on next door at 22 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: the soda shop. There's all kinds of talk of permits 23 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: and when they'll be delivered, and then this lawyer named 24 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: Nicole walks in, Luke signs the least. They kind of 25 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: hit it off. Jess notices teases him and did Luke 26 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: only ask and I'll ask you this smith. Did Luke 27 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: only ask Nicole out because he knew Laura I was 28 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: dating someone else? 29 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: What do you think possibly? Yeah, yeah, I think there was. 30 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: I think it was definitely a factor in terms of. 31 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: Maybe if you were on the fence, it was definitely 32 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: a pushed. 33 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: And overall this episode, what'd you think of it? In general? 34 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: It had very cute moments. 35 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: It was there was some confusion between the Nicole's name, 36 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: but yeah, otherwise it was it was cute. 37 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: Have you watched the series before or were you a 38 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: casual watch or never seen it? 39 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: What? I actually never ever thought it? 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: Really Yeah, but I'm not a TV watcher, right, So 41 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: actually I get it though. 42 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: Now it's really cute. 43 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: So this is the first episode you've actually seen? 44 00:02:59,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 45 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that's the premise of my entire podcast. I'd 46 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: never seen it either. I never watched it. I saw 47 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: maybe I saw the pilot, you know, when it came 48 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: out but I never watched an episode until twenty sixteen 49 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: when we did the big premiere in Westwood for the 50 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: Netflix episodes, and we had to sit. 51 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: Through Winter and thought it was pretty good. 52 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: But I hadn't seen any episodes other than that, so 53 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: I had no idea what I was involved with. Of course, 54 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: for you know, until twenty till twenty twenty one when 55 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: I started that, I had no idea, all right. So 56 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: we begin with Lorelei cleans out our garage for it 57 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: to become a practice space for Lane in her band 58 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: h and the band is over to prep the space, 59 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: and Dave tells Lane to play like a guy. He's 60 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: being very condescending. He's being very sexist towards her, but 61 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 2: it's all just a device so that the other band 62 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 2: members don't catch on that they. 63 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: Are in love. 64 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: And then Lane tells Rory she got a maybe for 65 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: missus Kim to go to the prom, so she devised 66 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: a plan for her to say yes to Dave blah 67 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: uh and Lane and Dave Florida, laie. We're getting a 68 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: little ahead of ourselves, all right, So this episode is 69 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: giving us a lot of Lane and Rory's friendship. Did 70 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: you ever have a friendship like this growing up. 71 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: I did it. It was in high school and I 72 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: had a. 73 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 5: Really, really, really good friend. 74 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 4: Her name was Susan, and we were very tight and 75 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: we covered for each other and we were we were. 76 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: Pretty much inseparable. 77 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: That's nice. 78 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: We got into the thick of things, we were, We 79 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 4: got into trouble sometimes. 80 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Did you grow up in southern California? 81 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: I grew up in Silicon Valley. 82 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay, so. 83 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: Kind of the Bay Area, but not really the Bay Area. 84 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 4: It'd be more south, safer up north, right, And there 85 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: wasn't much to do at that time, and so yeah, 86 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: you had to make your fun and it was. 87 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: That was when the mall was exciting. 88 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: You just go and hang out at the mall. 89 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: Right. Yeah. 90 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: And we even got in trouble by the cops one time, 91 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: right in front of our house. So yeah, we we 92 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: had good friendship. 93 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: I remember those did mal Day's cops, the whole thing. 94 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: The suburbs used to be a lot of fun. 95 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: Yes, they they absolutely were. I don't know if they're there, Yeah, 96 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: they really were. 97 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: No, right, they're not so funny. 98 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure some places are, but I think 99 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: most of the suburbs I've been in lately or kind 100 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: of you know, they're throwing off city vibes. 101 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: They are. 102 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: I mean, I remember packing all of us packing into 103 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: a car, sitting on each other to get your house 104 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: party right exactly. 105 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just yeah, it must have changed a great deal. 106 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: They really have. 107 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 2: Anyway, so you can relate to this episode obviously, this 108 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: this this relationship from these two. We're big fans of 109 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: the day of Vergalski Lane relationship because it's just so 110 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: damn clever. Yeah, and he's you know, he's very sweetly 111 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: going through a lot of hoops to date Lane. And 112 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: if he'd have stayed on the show, Smith, do you 113 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: do you think he would have. 114 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Been endgame for Lane or is it too hard to 115 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: tell just from watching one episode. 116 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: It's too hard to tell for me from watching one episode. 117 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, it really is a very impressive. 118 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: His This relationship between Dave and Kim is just so 119 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: cleverly written. Yeah, all the all the all the inventions 120 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: and all the hoops and all the deceptions that they 121 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: go through to be together. 122 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: It's just really cute. 123 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun to watch, it. 124 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: Is it really is. 125 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: I don't know I I would I would like to 126 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: think that they would. 127 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: Have right in the endgame, because that's that's a fun relationship. 128 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: Yes, it is fraught with complexity. Imagine Dave navigating that 129 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: through a marriage through children. I think missus Kim would 130 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: have eventually, you know, accepted it and been actually quite pleasant. Yeah, 131 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: well maybe that's the next iteration. 132 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. 133 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: Larele Alex Luke dynamic Billy Burke guest stars as Alex, 134 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: big fan of Billy Burke, and you know they're hitting 135 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: it off. Lareleon and Alex are hitting it off. 136 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: He's a coffee guy, he's got some kids, he's a 137 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: great dad. 138 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: He asked her to go fishing. What you think of 139 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: all this? Were you aware of the Luke and Lorelai 140 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: back and forth, the dynamic between these two, the tension 141 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: between these two, Well. 142 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: It's immediately obvious when you watch it. It's there, which 143 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: is great, and it's really cute. The fishing in the 144 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: kiddie pool. 145 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: It's uh again, Lauren is showing her comedy chops. 146 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, prepping and learning how to fish, and. 147 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: You know, it's it seems to be that it's a 148 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: similar scenario over and over again with these two where 149 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: Luke is helping her on a date or helping or 150 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: being a good guy and you know, being the supportive friend. 151 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: He kind of. 152 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't display jealousy really in front of her. 153 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: He doesn't get you know, he doesn't he doesn't get challenged. 154 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: He just sort of says, well, you know, I'll just 155 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: help you out as much as I can. It's really 156 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: the only thing he can do, and it's really the 157 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: best thing to do. 158 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, he uh. 159 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: God, after so much of it, you get to maybe 160 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: thinking he enjoys it. What's wrong He's a masochist or 161 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: something that I'll stick with her because I know I'm 162 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: going to be in constant pain. Pain interesting, you know. 163 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: So, so Luke comes over and Loralize dress ready to 164 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: go fishing to a lake, but Luke has only let 165 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: her her practice in the kiddie pool, and then he 166 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: starts his probing inquiry into specifics and who and why 167 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: and what number, date all that stuff. So he gathers 168 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: the information without letting on that he's I mean, to me, 169 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: that's an obvious sign. 170 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: That he's a little wound up about it. 171 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 2: But he doesn't really show it too much to her, 172 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: and uh, and we never see we don't see the 173 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: fishing date. 174 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Why don't we see the fishing date? 175 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: All that build up, She's ready to rock, and then 176 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: we don't see a fishing date. We just see a 177 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: trout in the bathtub, which is. 178 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: Because I don't think it was about them per se 179 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: going on that what it was about. 180 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: The date, but it was the lead up to the date. 181 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: It was everything about the date, not the date. 182 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: So we know that that Alex is not going to 183 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: be a contender. 184 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 185 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: There asking me here what I remember about filming it? 186 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: And I don't remember it. I don't remember anything about 187 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: filming the show. 188 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: Really, with the filming in general, I don't remember much. 189 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: I don't really want to remember it. It's like, okay, 190 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: I've I've occupied my brain with this for hours. Now, 191 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: you know it takes hours to shoot a scene. That's enough, 192 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: flush it. Let's get I don't want to you know, yep, 193 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: I have no It's it's amazing going through this. 194 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: I have very little memory of any of it. 195 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: I totally understand. 196 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: That's not because it was unpleasant, just the op. 197 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just a time in your life. 198 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: A chunk, right. 199 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: And plus with limited room, you want to make room 200 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: for the. 201 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: New stuff, right. 202 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think Luke regrets offering to teach 203 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: Laurla how to fish. 204 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: No, after he finds out it's for a guy he's dating. 205 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: That's that's silly. 206 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: No. 207 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to something really spicy here. 208 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: Okay, Rory in Paris, I mean, Paris is gone after 209 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: Rory with a vengeance. 210 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:40,479 Speaker 5: Yeah. 211 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: So Francine pulled Rory into the bathroom and she I 212 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: guess she wanted details about who. 213 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: Paris was dating. There was a guy from Princeton. 214 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: I think I could be wrong, but I believe that 215 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: that Rory was blackmailed somehow into divulging certain details about 216 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: Paris's personal life. And this is what Paris is so 217 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: unhinged about, to the point where once she stomps into 218 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: the student council meeting late, she just goes after Rory 219 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: with a vengeance like we've we haven't seen from from 220 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: until from the beginning. I mean, this is the way 221 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: Paris was in the beginning when she was breaking in Rory, 222 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: so to speak, or trying to break her. And then 223 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: Paris and Rory go to see Headmaster Charlton, because they're 224 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: bickering is becoming an issue on campus. This is just 225 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: not how Chiltern students behave. And he gives a very 226 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: fine lecture to them. I was very it was a 227 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: very satisfying. 228 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Lecture that he gave to these two and he threatened 229 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: the you know what out. 230 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: Of them, and it got the attention and they walked 231 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: out and Paris was still. 232 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: Still wanting to fight. She was still chomping. It's the bit. 233 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: Do you think Paris has taking it too far? 234 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 4: I mean, her temperament is a temperament. Yeah, so I 235 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: think that, you know, for her, it probably wasn't for 236 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: some people who watch it, they probably think so. It 237 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 4: just depends on the person. Yeah, have a very diplomatic answer. 238 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Why do you think Rory stoops to her level and 239 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: fights back. 240 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: I don't think she's gonna take it anymore. She was. 241 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: I mean, she was getting essentially blackmailed off the wall. Yeah, 242 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: you're you know, there's some stress. 243 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: I thought she got some good shots in there though. 244 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 245 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he defends herself. 246 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: Well, there's a lack of I think understanding all around 247 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: that may have maybe maybe just over it. 248 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: I think she is I think at certain points during 249 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: their argument, Rory was like, screw it, I'm done with that. 250 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 251 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, after so much, I got to fight back a 252 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: little bit, right, got to a punch too. 253 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it was entertaining. 254 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: And one of the big laughs I got out of 255 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: the episode was and I actually rewound it. If you 256 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: can imagine, post Charleston's speech, Paris muttered to herself, sexist 257 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: white haired man. 258 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: I love that. 259 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 260 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it did seem to me like it was 261 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: an overdub, but it worked anyway. Well, it's nice to 262 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: see the different friendship Rory has and introducing a new 263 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: guy into the mix. 264 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: And and. 265 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: Overall, Okay, now that we've talked about it a little bit, right, m. 266 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: How would you rate this one to ten? This episode? 267 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: And and and I know you haven't seen any other episodes, 268 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: but just in your opinion, in your your experience watching television, 269 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: even though you're not a big television watch you've seen 270 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: some episodes in your life. 271 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: I know you have. 272 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: How would you rate this episode of television? Was it's 273 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: the best television experience of your life? 274 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: Smith? Did it? Did it change your life? Or it didn't? 275 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: It didn't change your life or did you did it? 276 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: That was surprising that I didn't think it would be 277 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: that good. 278 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: It was pretty good, but on a scale of one 279 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: to tenth, I would rate it at. 280 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: Point wow, seven point three. We used to rate these 281 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: episodes the first go around. This is the second go round, 282 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: so we're watching it for the second time, so the 283 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: first go around after every we had a big team 284 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: of people and we used to rate them. So that's 285 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: a nice callback to what we used to do. All right, Ah, 286 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: teven point three. You know what, I think, I'm gonna 287 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: give it about the same, maybe a little higher seven 288 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: eight seven nine card we should, you know, we just 289 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: don't have the budget for that, you know, very Mark, Well, 290 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: you have to get a union person to hold it up, 291 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: and that's a huge expense. It's a huge expense. And 292 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: then if you don't do it right, you get fined. 293 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: The state of California finds you like one hundred thousand dollars. 294 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. 295 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: I wonder to the stale tex on that. 296 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: Fine, there's got to be you know, there is. 297 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: And then they go in and they do a they 298 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: do a five of the overall you know, they do. Yeah, 299 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: so they just nail you. All right. Now we're going 300 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: to talk about you. This is all about you now, 301 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: oh boy. 302 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: And I'm not even gonna ask you the first question 303 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: because you don't remember a thing about it to you? 304 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: Do you remember anything about that day when you when 305 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: you were shooting your episode? 306 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: Well, what did you do? 307 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: I don't remember. I think I stood in the living room. 308 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: Okay, it was it. 309 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: Was one of my very very very first acting on 310 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: TV jobs. 311 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so I. 312 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: Think I said something or two or three. I don't remember. 313 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: Okay, how'd you get into acting? So you're from Silicon Valley. 314 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: Everybody up there has this tech startup. You're the only 315 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: one that doesn't have a tech startup. You get into acting? 316 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: I was the answer. So I had I was doing that. 317 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: I was doing jazz. 318 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 4: I went to Long Beach State for dance because they 319 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 4: have a fantastic dance program. 320 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 3: And then from there I found my way into acting. 321 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 4: Okay, because I always wanted or was very curious about it. 322 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 4: But this is this is you know, this is going 323 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 4: back to the days where we're talking about no internet, 324 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 4: no access, no anything. And I was so sheltered that 325 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: I truly thought you had to be a special specie 326 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 4: of humans. 327 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: To be an actress. 328 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: You do, yes, yes, yes, you do. 329 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: This is true. This is true. I wasn't too far off. 330 00:20:51,720 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: But you know you did, You did r you did 331 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: entourage name a few. 332 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: So what put you off? Were you just this is? 333 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: This is just not for me for some reason. It 334 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: wasn't happening at the rate you thought it would happen. 335 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: It was boring? 336 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 3: What it was boring? 337 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: What? 338 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: Uh? You know? Clearly I was needing to fulfill a 339 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: hole within myself for validation at in some fashion. And then. 340 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: As I was growing up and doing more work and 341 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 4: working more, I probably started to evolve much more where 342 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 4: I would look around and I just would the certain 343 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 4: behaviors that I didn't agree with on set or treatment, 344 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 4: and so it. 345 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: Kind of that was one piece of it. 346 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: Another piece was it also just didn't matter how talented 347 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 4: you were. 348 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: There were so many politics involved, and. 349 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: That was crushing. It didn't matter how right you were 350 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: for a wall. It didn't matter if it was if 351 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 4: everybody under the fund wanted you for the role. 352 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: It didn't even matter if that. 353 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: Director who won the Oscar wanted you. It mattered what 354 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 4: the network wanted. 355 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 7: Right, So after a few of those hits, like I 356 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 7: just I really became disillusioned and I just didn't care anymore. 357 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: So you got close to a couple of pilots or 358 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: a couple of series, these regular roles or film and 359 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: niling the auditions and many being assured and testing all 360 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: the time, just nothing coming through. 361 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's and it's nice, but it's also very 362 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: sad when you get when they seek out your email 363 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: from the casting directors or in the day of a 364 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: letter and they would write to you and say, I'm 365 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: really sorry it didn't work out. 366 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 3: I really really really wanted blah blah blah blah blah 367 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: blah blah. I mean that's pretty great and yet so sad. 368 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 369 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 4: Right, So when that happens more than once, I'm just like, 370 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 4: I can't control this, this is this is not for me. 371 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 3: I hate everyone. Sorry, Am I not supposed to say that? 372 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: No? Yeah, no, it's it's it's very difficult to you know. 373 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: I think it's harder because I went through a similar 374 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: experience in. 375 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: My previous career, and but I you know, I was young, 376 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: I was in my I started at twenty and by 377 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: the time I was twenty six, I was done. 378 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: I was so frustrated and. 379 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: I had gotten so close so often, and had you know, 380 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: the phone call that changed my life, and called the 381 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: parents and called the friends, and then the next day they. 382 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: Changed their mind. 383 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: And it was so I experienced everything, and then I 384 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: went into this business thinking it was going to be 385 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: any different. 386 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 387 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: And I always say that I hung in long enough, 388 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: and I was old enough when I started, that I 389 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: had a thick skin, and that I said to myself, 390 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to hang in there and till one day 391 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: somebody makes a massive mistake and hires me, because I 392 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 2: know the odds of that happening increase the older I get. 393 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: Somebody's going to make a bad mistake, and it happened. 394 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: Congratulations again, Way to go, you idiots. 395 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: You are. But I know I know exactly how you feel. 396 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: I think it's harder to endure when you're giving your 397 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: twenties and even getting into your thirties and you continue 398 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: to give of that. 399 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: That is difficult to reconcile. That is very difficult. 400 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: It's very difficult. 401 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's much because I couldn't have continued 402 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: my prior profession any longer, it just wasn't possible for me. 403 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: I've enjoyed it for five years. The last two was nightmarish, 404 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm done. 405 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: You know, this doesn't want me. 406 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it's the way it goes, the 407 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: way it goes, you know, So I know exactly how 408 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: you feel good for you. 409 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: And you turn it into something that you enjoy. 410 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully that is that is profitable. 411 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: You know. Everything's a hustle, right, everything is a hustle. 412 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: When I was on the fence, my husband. 413 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 4: Were we married yet, so my son boy friends because 414 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 4: now my husbandriend uh. 415 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: Was He's like, why don't you your real estate? Because 416 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: when I was when I hit my when I had my. 417 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: First farid, it was the most amount of money I'd 418 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: ever made in my life or a scene. 419 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 6: So it's like, oh my god, I don't know what 420 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 6: to do with this. Did you still with it? It's 421 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 6: not just going to go away otherway? So I started 422 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 6: investing in real estate. So it's like, you, you know 423 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 6: real estate from the other side, why don't you do that? 424 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 6: And I'm like, I so don't want to be a 425 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 6: person on the best bench. I'm not doing that, I'm 426 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 6: not doing it, and that's embarrassing, not happening, not doing it. 427 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: And so for. 428 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 4: The first year I was still kind of still acting, 429 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: but I was also being a ghost. And I essentially 430 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 4: grew the deep real estate firm in Austin. And everyone 431 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 4: that I lived in Austin had two bones and it 432 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: was my real estate friend and I developed this firm, 433 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: and essentially because I knew Austin really really well, that 434 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: was actually where I had made one of my real 435 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: estate investments as well. 436 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: And so. 437 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: I did all that, and then when that kind of 438 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: hit its point where they wanted me to move up 439 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 4: in the firm. 440 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 3: I looked at the prices of. 441 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 4: Austin and I was like, even for that money, i'd 442 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 4: have to That's just not my life in LA. It's 443 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: not going to support that. Actually, like I'd have to 444 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: move to Austin for that to make sense. So since 445 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: I'm not moving there anytime soon, I should just do 446 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: it in LA, which is again I had to get 447 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: over the ego part of like, oh now she's a 448 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: real estate agent, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm 449 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: so embarrassed. 450 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: So I had to sit with that for a. 451 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: Minute or two or five, and that's how that happened. 452 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 4: And then from there. 453 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: Always also wanted like a little local shop. 454 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the brentwould find Wrot Wines. You're in Brentwood, you 455 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: have a wine store. 456 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: I do, and it's a little wine bar too. 457 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: That is exciting. 458 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's really cute. 459 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: So you like to go in every day and I. 460 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: Do end up coming in almost every day. 461 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: That's nice, and they do end up. 462 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: Liking it when I am. Sometimes I don't want to 463 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: because I get stuck here for hours. But it's actually 464 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: it's it's lovely, it's really. 465 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: Cute, and it's going well and okay, good, all right Smith, 466 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: it's been a pleasure, continued success. 467 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. 468 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: Stay yes as you the same, all the best and 469 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: go everybody, go to Brentwood Fine Wines. 470 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: And get yourself a fine wine because they have. 471 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: It's a pretty nifty place to be anyway, right if 472 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: you're going to be like, go to Brentwood. 473 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, hey, everybody, and don't 474 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: Forget Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In 475 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.