WEBVTT - 07/07/21 DPS Hour 3 Frank Isola

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>into the Rachel Nichols Maria Taylor thing. It will ask

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<v Speaker 1>Frank is Sola you know Rachel for years as well? Yikes? Yikes?

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<v Speaker 1>Is right? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, how do you how

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<v Speaker 1>does that? What is? Yeah? How does that get? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you can't you fix that? Yeah? It's it's curious. Dog,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I don't know how you just said

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<v Speaker 1>it earlier? How do you put the genie back in

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<v Speaker 1>the bottle? I don't know. I mean, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you could say a lot of things and people might

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<v Speaker 1>not be happy with it. If he if she went

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<v Speaker 1>on a rant and said that Maria Taylor wasn't better

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<v Speaker 1>than her and all that. I think people could could

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that, you know what I mean, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel you could deal with that, But once the

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<v Speaker 1>race part is in, it's just hard for people to

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<v Speaker 1>overlook that. And I'm talking about okay, so help me

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<v Speaker 1>out here. Obviously, there's not a not a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>white NBA players. Okay, Uh, but is there is there

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion to be had about what Jalen said and

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't back down from in regards to Kevin Love,

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<v Speaker 1>where he said that Kevin Love is only on the

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<v Speaker 1>team because they didn't want to set an all black team. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Love only got the job because he's a white gay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's there's two sides of this, and one

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<v Speaker 1>is uh misinformed, right because they had already been four

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<v Speaker 1>black teams. You know, so I think uh, in that

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<v Speaker 1>stance with Jalen, but to and I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it like like like it's race is involved. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying. Um, but I think in

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<v Speaker 1>this case one is uninformed or misinformed. Uh. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he wasn't. I don't think Jalen was informed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he called anybody. I think that's just one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that. And yes, right, what I'll doing the research,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're gonna make that claim, all you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do is all you gotta do is call the

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<v Speaker 1>USA basketball guys to be like, look, man, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these guys didn't want to go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these guys are in contract years. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to possibly get hurt. They don't want to go go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bubble. He played for us before. Plus we

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<v Speaker 1>need a shooting big we can bang. We can play

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<v Speaker 1>him at the five, at the four. If he doesn't play,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no big deal. He doesn't care. He just wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of a winner, like all these

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<v Speaker 1>things would like really for real, that's now he could

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<v Speaker 1>still think it. But yes, he did not do the

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<v Speaker 1>due diligence. But but he's still he didn't fact say it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said it live on air, right, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just it's and now he said on a radio show whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't say it on TV. But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't the idea that that that the

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel it was it shouldn't have been recorded, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't doesn't excuse what she said right right right, And

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<v Speaker 1>everybody says that, oh, well, well, well who was he?

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<v Speaker 1>I just forgot his name? The owner of the clippers,

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<v Speaker 1>like like, uh, the Donald Sterling right, like right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a private conversation. But he said it right and

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<v Speaker 1>once it once it came out the bottle, what happened

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<v Speaker 1>Doug that the franchise that he had owned for forever

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. He was forced out right because even if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a private conversation, people heard it and it

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<v Speaker 1>made you look at him at a different way. So

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll look at it in that in that standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>you if people if if Maria Taylor leaked it, if

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<v Speaker 1>let's say her people leaked it, because the tape was

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<v Speaker 1>out there, apparently there was an edited tape that other

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<v Speaker 1>people that that had been out there before this one

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<v Speaker 1>had cut out some of these parts to it. If

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<v Speaker 1>if it, if it was found out that Maria Taylor's

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<v Speaker 1>people leaked it, what would your opinion of Herbie, It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter to me who lead. It's a real tape.

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<v Speaker 1>If you told me that they spliced together to have

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<v Speaker 1>or say something that's not your no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that. I'm saying it's really I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying there's anything. No one has denied the validity of

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<v Speaker 1>the tape or what's on it. I'm saying, if you

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<v Speaker 1>drop this too, if you drop it to the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times the weekend before the biggest the biggest stage

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<v Speaker 1>that the league has, that you the company you work for,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're in a contract negotiation with, Like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with you on that one. Again, it doesn't it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't in any way vindicate Rachel Nichols. Okay, But whoever, whoever,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever dropped it, Like, like, the timing of it is

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<v Speaker 1>more than curious, and I don't think there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>another way to do it. There's there's other ways to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and this was not the time or the place,

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<v Speaker 1>and because because I mean, like look at the very

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<v Speaker 1>employee was fired I mean, or who was I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who was disciplined for for the tape. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed somebody who you know, rated public maybe who

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<v Speaker 1>has maybe off the ESPNY, but maybe she's But why

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<v Speaker 1>why wasn't it already previously out? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>dropped in the fourth of July, and it was an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute absolutely there's no doubt. It took away in many

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<v Speaker 1>ways from I mean, I guess you it was why

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<v Speaker 1>you watched. I mean, look, Millik Andrews, she's awesome, So

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like where's Rachel you're watching? You know, she's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think there was much change in anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Of what I was watching last night. We did. There

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<v Speaker 1>was the surprise, wasn't the sideline reporter for it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was that Jannis played and looked healthy like he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He had that incredible chase down block. Um, what was

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion of the series before last night's game when

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<v Speaker 1>So what was your opinion of the series before the

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<v Speaker 1>series started? I picked the Sons because I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like the run of luck that they've had

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<v Speaker 1>with stars being injured. I didn't know Jannis was gonna play,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, Doug, I thought he wasn't gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>and was surprised that he was playing. He played, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he didn't have a huge impact on the

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<v Speaker 1>game either way. So I said the Sons in five

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<v Speaker 1>or six games, I'm sticking with that. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Sons are gonna win the championship. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that confidence in Milwaukee. I know they got through Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>but Trey Young was hurt right and didn't play. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know they got through Brooklyn, but you know Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>was hurt and James Harden was hobbled, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? And if Kevin Duran boy side size fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>instead of a seventeen, then the Nets would be in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Finals. I mean, yeah, I mean, like I

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, I don't. I don't think. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need to get into the whole discussion about how they

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<v Speaker 1>get got here and should they be here or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in terms of this series, I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a very good series. Um. I think Jannis being healthier,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still going to be a hard matchup. The big

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<v Speaker 1>thing is going to be how and do the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>adjust right, because that's really the that's the criticism Mike Boudenholzer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that he's not a good coach. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>like the ability to do what what Tylu did consistency consistently,

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<v Speaker 1>which is adjust. I mean Monty Williams when he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have Chris Paul and they go two and oh in

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<v Speaker 1>the Western Conference finals, it's a just adjust your lineups,

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<v Speaker 1>adjust your coverages, and look, I don't think it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to go into a game going, you know, let's make

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul beat us. Like the best thing Chris Paul

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<v Speaker 1>does is makes everybody else better, makes everybody else go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make Chris Paul beat and you know what, one

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<v Speaker 1>game in he beats you. You know he had thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two on nineteen shots. He beats you. He's sliced you,

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<v Speaker 1>he diced you. You put a big on him. He

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<v Speaker 1>was too quick. You forced him to go right. He

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<v Speaker 1>found a way to go left, even if he got

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<v Speaker 1>back to his right hand, like Chris, Chris Paul, he

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<v Speaker 1>beat you. Now you're now. The question is, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Botnozer, are you gonna go with the numbers and say,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't think he can beat us four times?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are you gonna change how you guard him and

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<v Speaker 1>change your lineups? And that's the big challenge because he

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<v Speaker 1>is not a guy who is. He doesn't. The crazy

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<v Speaker 1>thing is there's not a lot of in game changes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then even between games, the changes are usually subtle.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't pull the drastic whereas a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>other guys go with the drastic changes. Yeah, I get that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just w when when you say you think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good series. Yes, that's with or without Yannis?

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<v Speaker 1>You really no, no, no, no, no no, now with Yannis? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so before this, before you knew he was playing, what

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<v Speaker 1>what what did you think of this series? I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was playing anyway? Oh okay, so I'm the one

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<v Speaker 1>who was in the dark. No I didn't. I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I had a little bit of help, but

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<v Speaker 1>not a ton of help. It was it was just

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<v Speaker 1>more like when they say hyper extended knee, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't do it on the video, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw right, um, but some kids, but it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like it buckled. It just yeah, it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>it bent a little bit the wrong way, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look like absolutely positively that's a torn acl or

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<v Speaker 1>meniscus or whatever. And and I couldn't tell when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear no structural damage, they're telling you it's just given

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<v Speaker 1>to be about, you know, swelling and when does he feel? Right? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I I So that's that's what I thought it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a good series. I picked the Bucks only in that

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<v Speaker 1>the reason the Lakers felt like they could they would

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<v Speaker 1>they were a good matchup against the Suns was the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun's frontline, you know, you got Aton who is more

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<v Speaker 1>of a traditional center of all, he's shown he can

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<v Speaker 1>he can guard some out on the floor. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know who's the other big You know, is it

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Crowder? Right? So how do you match up when

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<v Speaker 1>you have when you're two best players or you're two

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<v Speaker 1>big players, which is what the Lakers had he had

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<v Speaker 1>yet Anthony Davis. They like that matchup, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that on some level, some level, that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks like about it. The problem is, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Drew Holiday played great. Um. The problem was better

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<v Speaker 1>they and Jannis could couldn't play better, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play that starting lineup together a bunch and then they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they need to look at playing small more often,

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<v Speaker 1>and that comes down to Ken. They hired Bryan Forbes

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<v Speaker 1>on defense because he gives them something on offense that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else gives them, which is outright deep deep shooting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'd be surprised if the Bucks win this.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, but then again, uh, you know, I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>where they are. But but things have worked out for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to, like you said, We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into figuring out and booten Hawser, booten

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<v Speaker 1>Holzer as the coach. Where are you on him? You

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<v Speaker 1>know about coaching, you coach some teams. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a lot of criticism. I remember it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>he was a goner after they lost by what forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine or thirty nine to the nets? You remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think apart is he a good coach?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a good I it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like like baseball. Okay, here's the baseball analogy.

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<v Speaker 1>There are guys are there are guys that are great

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<v Speaker 1>regular season managers, but in the playoffs he's like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs are completely different challenge. Right, it's about matchups,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about what the computer says. But it's also about feel,

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<v Speaker 1>and some guys have it and some guys don't. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they go they keep going out there and like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? You know? They some guys have feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>some guys don't. I think for for bud It, the

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<v Speaker 1>criticism of him is that while he's really consistent and

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<v Speaker 1>that works in the regular season, in the postseason it

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<v Speaker 1>is about adjustments, and his adjustments are subtle at best.

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<v Speaker 1>If if or does he he's kind of that old

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<v Speaker 1>school we do what we do, and if we do

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<v Speaker 1>what we do well, like last night, he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul is a good player, so that's why they lost,

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<v Speaker 1>Like no, or you kind of helped him out with

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<v Speaker 1>you with your coverage. So what do I think? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that last night played right into that narrative

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<v Speaker 1>of Bud's not great at adjusting two different personnel. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes him a long time. Do so, look the game

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<v Speaker 1>where Jannis got hurt. Remember the game where Yannis got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt against Atlanto's at game four. Okay, he tweaks his knee.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like he tores acl right, that's what everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>holding their breath. Reggie Miller's going like, well, if he

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<v Speaker 1>can walk on it, maybe that Like, no, Reggie, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not how we judge anyway, Like we're all holding our breath.

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<v Speaker 1>So they get back to playing, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta hits the three and they got great energy, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they hit another and then you know, Milwaukee misses

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<v Speaker 1>a bunny. They come down and they hit another three,

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<v Speaker 1>like right then and there you called time out. All right, hey, fellows,

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<v Speaker 1>let's catch our breath. He waited till like a ten

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<v Speaker 1>o run and then he finally calls time out. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just think he's a little slow to react and

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<v Speaker 1>to fix things. Instead he falls back on the hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if we do we do well, then it does nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else gonna matter. And we saw on the other flip

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<v Speaker 1>side of a guy who some people didn't think was

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<v Speaker 1>a good coach, who made a lot of adjustments in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. Who's that ty Lou? I thought ty Lou did.

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<v Speaker 1>A group didn't think he was a good coach. So

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<v Speaker 1>some people like because he had Lebron and he won

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<v Speaker 1>the championship. Some mean just like the casual people just think, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had Lebron James I could win a championship too.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he did a great job with the He

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<v Speaker 1>he was fantastic with the Clippers, and Monnie Williams has

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<v Speaker 1>been fantastic, fantastic with the Suns. Like there's been some

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<v Speaker 1>really I feel like I do feel like in the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA coaching does get because it is a lot like baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>where in the regular season you're managing minutes and managing

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<v Speaker 1>personalities and trying to get consistency and trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>everything to work together. In the playoffs, it's about how

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<v Speaker 1>do we how do we match up? How do we

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to win this game? And then how

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<v Speaker 1>do we win the next game? Then how do we

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<v Speaker 1>win the next game? Nothing else matters, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>not There are guys that can do the matchup thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can't get to the postseason to do it

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<v Speaker 1>or put themselves in position. There are guys that can

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<v Speaker 1>do the managing of egos and personalities, but then they

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<v Speaker 1>can't do the in game stuff. I think Monty can

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<v Speaker 1>do it both. I think Tylu can do it both.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a pretty sound argument. I think

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<v Speaker 1>budd has shown the ability in the regular season in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta in Milwaukee to do an excellent job, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty consistent. But the slowness of adjustments is or lack thereof,

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<v Speaker 1>can be a little can be a little alarming. All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Could these finals bring disaster ratings to the NBA? And

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, doesn't matter, we'll discuss. Frank gi Should is

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<v Speaker 1>going to join us around the corner. Be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays

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<v Speaker 1>at nine am Eastern six am Pacific Sports Radio in

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<v Speaker 1>the iHeart Radio WAP Good morning you, Dan Patrick, show

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<v Speaker 1>Rose on Rob Parker, Doug Gottlieban for Dan and the

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Nettes. Frank Gisla has worked in the newspaper business

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<v Speaker 1>so long that even he he remembers Rob Parker back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day they were they were stripes, back when

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<v Speaker 1>they actually wrote things by hand. And did you do that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you always do the recorder thing or did you

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<v Speaker 1>do the like the shorthand notes set started out with

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<v Speaker 1>just the pad and then added the recorder. I've been,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the business for thirty five years, so

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<v Speaker 1>when I first started out, Doug, excuse me, even like

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<v Speaker 1>sending in your story was difficult. We were We wrote

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<v Speaker 1>on these tandy laptops where you could only see about

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<v Speaker 1>six or eight lines of your story. It was, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you would have to plug into a phone line.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've sent stories from McDonald's from the air poured

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<v Speaker 1>service desk, from pulling over to a gas station and

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<v Speaker 1>begging the store owner to let me use his phone line.

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<v Speaker 1>It was incredible, like where I filed stories from. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now now it's you can record a podcast from

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<v Speaker 1>any right on his zoom. You can literally be face

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<v Speaker 1>to face with anybody anywhere in the world. It's it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've known Frank forever obviously, we worked in New

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<v Speaker 1>York together, and he's a fantastic NBA reporter. I absolutely agree. Agree.

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<v Speaker 1>We just we disagree in the shakery Richardson that she

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't run, right, We we both. I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>there aren't any major points of disagreement today. Well I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Um today, I'm you're with Oltani. You would pick Oltani

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<v Speaker 1>to start your team, and I would take Tattoos Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>So that yeah, but that's not That's not what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>willing to go to the mattresses for. Like, I know, emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's splitting there two great players splitting hairs. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you ask my opinion on Mike budenholz Er, what's yours? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just I asked George. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's that great. But I'm not a coach. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I think your opinion is even better because you've

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<v Speaker 1>done it and you've coached kids, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a team or whatever. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>always interested as a guy who's covered the nbas's nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven. I think he's just okay. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a terrible coach, but there's times I think what

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<v Speaker 1>is he doing? Frank is Soola joins a serious XM

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<v Speaker 1>NBA radio. You can also see him around the horn

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<v Speaker 1>at the Frank Isola Frank I said that Budd. The

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<v Speaker 1>criticism of Bud, which is fair, is that he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of that a little bit of that old school We

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<v Speaker 1>do what we do, we do it well, and they

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<v Speaker 1>adjust to us. He just not quick to adjust in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of lineups at times and in terms of coverages.

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<v Speaker 1>They will make some subtle adjustments, but not He won't

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<v Speaker 1>just change things the way that a Tyler would just

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<v Speaker 1>change things. Now it's worked to a certain level, but

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't worked in the playoffs. Is that a fair Is

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<v Speaker 1>that a fair way of describing what people in the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA say about Mike Budenholzer. I think it's fair. And

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<v Speaker 1>Doug and Rob, how you guys doing. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the NET series, it didn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>should ever be out there. If you go to back

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<v Speaker 1>to game five when they just kept running that high

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<v Speaker 1>screen and roll with you know, Duranpez he started taking

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<v Speaker 1>the ball up and then it was he was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times isolated on brook Lopez and Lopez just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't keep up yet. In Game seven, Lopez did have

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<v Speaker 1>the block shot on Kevin Durant with the game tide

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<v Speaker 1>at one eleven, and that's when Joe Harris said missed

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<v Speaker 1>the three. Chris Middleton came down hit the basket, which

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being the one that won the series to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then brook Lopez had some good moments. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to people that have worked with Mike Budenholzer,

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<v Speaker 1>they say that he does make a lot of in

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<v Speaker 1>game adjustments, maybe not dramatic things where he's changing the

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<v Speaker 1>starting lineup and things like that, but he does make adjustments.

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<v Speaker 1>But last night and even the guys on the telecast,

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying, you know, at some point you got to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. It's just not working to keep getting you know,

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<v Speaker 1>brook Lopez caught an isolation and they were completely exploiting

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<v Speaker 1>him on the pick and roll. But if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Milwaukee Bucks their history, and it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>good one, but I think it's five of the last

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<v Speaker 1>six playoffs series they've been in they have lost Game

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<v Speaker 1>one and the one that they won against Miami, which

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<v Speaker 1>was about a month ago, six weeks ago. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really play that well even in that game, so they've

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<v Speaker 1>been slow starters, so maybe it kind of takes him

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<v Speaker 1>a game or two. They're really getting adjusted. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think of how Nis looks. I thought he looked

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<v Speaker 1>really well. You know, I thought they did a good

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<v Speaker 1>job last night on the pregame. I guess Steven Any

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<v Speaker 1>and Michael Wilbama are probably on, and they were showing

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<v Speaker 1>him warming up. And you know, we've all been to

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<v Speaker 1>NBA games. We've seen guys work out. He looked like

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<v Speaker 1>he was going through, you know, the typical workout before

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna play. And I know they kept it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of close to the best before the games. But we

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<v Speaker 1>also know the way Yannis says, you know you're at

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Finals. I don't think he would go out

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<v Speaker 1>there if he felt he was gonna hurt the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was pretty aggressive early. I was cringing

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<v Speaker 1>every time he jumped because you're you're worried about him.

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<v Speaker 1>But think about where we are. You know, two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when the final started, the big thing was will Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant come back from injury and play. Well he did that,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, this finals begins with everyone wondering whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not you honest, he's gonna play, what games will

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<v Speaker 1>come back? And I thought, you know, all things considered,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was pretty good. He saw it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he set seventeen rebounds and he was seven for twelve

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<v Speaker 1>in the pree thro line, which I gotta be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might take the rest of the series.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, miss only five out of twelve. How about

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<v Speaker 1>the Sons, Frank I said that their championship run is

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<v Speaker 1>for gays, he only because of and I know they

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<v Speaker 1>were the second team, best team in the West record wise,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've had an unbelievable amount of breaks and and

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<v Speaker 1>not had to face some of the best players, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll win a championship. I think they'll win, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll count. And I'm not an asterisk guy, But

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think of just about the path that

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<v Speaker 1>the Sons have taken. Yeah, I think luck facts is

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<v Speaker 1>into everything. And I make the Milwaukee Bucks cut huge

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<v Speaker 1>breaks because James Harden got hurt fully three seconds into

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<v Speaker 1>Game one and then Kyrie everyone down in Game three.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think if everybody had been healthy across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard. I think the Nets were the

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<v Speaker 1>best team, but it doesn't always work out like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why when you have the chances, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take them. And I felt a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago Milwaukee had a great chance, you know, when they

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<v Speaker 1>were up to oh On Toronto and they probably weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to play with the Warriors with Kevin Durant, and

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<v Speaker 1>they blew it. Just like two years ago, Damian Lillard

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<v Speaker 1>and Portland got to play in the Western Conference finals

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<v Speaker 1>where they didn't have to play Kevin Durant. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of it. I you know Money Williams. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to cover him when he first came to New York.

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<v Speaker 1>And Money's a very serious, like no nonsense guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>we all know what Chris Paul is all about. He's

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<v Speaker 1>no nonsense, very serious, he's nasty and a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to work the refts. He knows how to

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<v Speaker 1>push his teammates. So to me, that franchise went from

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<v Speaker 1>being kind of a country club to like this stable,

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<v Speaker 1>like legitimate franchise. And I think the head coach and

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<v Speaker 1>the point guard have a lot to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And think about those young players, man, they got all

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they got two of them in the same draft,

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<v Speaker 1>Aiden and mcale Bridges and Devin Booker was a backup

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<v Speaker 1>on Kentucky. So if everyone wants to kill somebody, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's call up our buddy, John Calipari's because why he

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<v Speaker 1>was bringing off the bench. They've done a great job

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<v Speaker 1>kind of building the team. It's gonna be a legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>championship because they did go through Lebron and they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>a terrific team in Milwaukee. And you know what, ten

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years from now, it's just like Kim Duncan's first

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<v Speaker 1>title with fifty game season, nobody really makes that big

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<v Speaker 1>a deal of it anymore. Now, nobody remembers and like

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<v Speaker 1>Toronto's Toronto is probably the ultimate one, right where basically

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else, everybody outside of staff got hurt and it

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<v Speaker 1>still took him six games to vanquish the Warriors, but nobody,

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>nobody really cares. Well, stuff missed that shot that could

0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>have forced the game seven if you remember at the

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.200
<v Speaker 1>end of the game, But that's another story, right, But again,

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.960
<v Speaker 1>just all anybody remembers the Toronto won the championship that year,

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 1>right kawhig Toronto won one the championship. I can, Frank,

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I do have another question from does Janis win no

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.119
<v Speaker 1>matter what, whether they win the championship or not. And

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.200
<v Speaker 1>what I mean by that is he decided to stay

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the small market, not force his way out of Milwaukee,

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>not go join some super team or whatever. And he's

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA finals. People, I remember when he signed,

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>all what a mistake, He'll never win a title. It

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>was dumb. Why would you stay in Milwaukee? You know

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 1>all the young NBA heads who just want guys to

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 1>go team up with each other and that's it. Does

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Does he proved you can get to the championship without

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a super team or without being in a big market. No,

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of truth to that. And

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I also thought they cut some bracelet did a great

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>job with Chris Middleton, a former second round pick. And

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously they made the big, bold move to go out

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and get through Holliday, and they gave up a lot

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>to get him. But Jannis, you know, it's hard not

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to like him. I've gotten to know him really well

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 1>since he came into the league as a rookie, it's

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's come from nothing. He's a self made player.

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.120
<v Speaker 1>He still has a long way to go. If you could,

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you could make the case. Obviously, Layton games

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>are better up with the ball in Chris Middleton's tans. Yet,

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.399
<v Speaker 1>probably the biggest basket of Yannis's career was when he

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 1>backed down Kevin rant in the final minute of game

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 1>seven and overtime, and you know they were down too,

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and he was in a position where he can get fouled.

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And if he gets fouled, he's got to go to

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the free throw line. So while Ben Simmons doesn't want

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.199
<v Speaker 1>the ball late in the games, doesn't want to go

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.679
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near the paint because he might get fouled, Yannis

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.959
<v Speaker 1>isn't worried about that. And what you love about Yannis is,

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, last night, you know the fans are counting

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>while he's at the free throw line. He gets asked

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>about it after the game, He answers a question. He

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't cite mental health, He doesn't cite you know, the

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 1>fans are out of control. He just like takes it

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>like to me like he's a legitimate tough guy. Maybe

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>he's not throwing punches on the court. But I think

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>he's just a mentally tough player. It's so easy to

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>like him, and that's why, you know, I hope it

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>works out from either way. You know, Chris Paul's gonna

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>get his title or Yannis is gonna get it. So

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 1>either way, it's going to be a pretty good steward.

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm happy for him because he got his money.

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>He likes it. In Milwaukee, they cut some breaks. I

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 1>think the next series they caught a break, and here

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>they are four wins from a title. Frank, I'm I'm

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.719
<v Speaker 1>interested in the rest of the league. Okay, so the

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Portland Hire it didn't go over great use of the

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>press conference and the other stuff about Chauncey that I

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 1>hadn't even known her. But but but I you know

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>what I have an issue in and I just look

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 1>at it this way. If he's good enough, or he

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>was cleared to be an assistant coach in the NBA

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and and be up for the Cleveland Cavalier's GM job

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and all that, then then you can't, like now all

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden say he shouldn't be get that job.

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>But Rob, Rob, he plays for like seven teams, and

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that was okay, right, he almost got to run the

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>entire department of the Cleveland Cavalier. He's been an assistant coach,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>he worked at ESPN. But this is the one job

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>where we're going to draw the line. They can't get it.

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And and Doug right, they didn't win the press conference.

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>But guess what. The Yankees didn't win the press conference

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>when they hired to a Tory. And I think a

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of times organizations get into trouble where they want

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to make, you know, the big splash he hired. It's

0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>a big name. It's not about that. It's where the

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the guy can do the job. And I think people

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>who know Chaluncey Billips know that he's a very smart guy.

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He's obviously a great leader. What that leads to we

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know. But that's why I can't like if you're Portland,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think on a national scale, I don't think

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.919
<v Speaker 1>that the story had a lot of tracks and I

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>think locally in Portland, Oh yeah, well, you also have

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to you have to take it, You have to take

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in a context all the other factors. Right, it's Portland,

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>which is right, And you know, over the last year

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>has been a city where has been as as like

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>left leaning, as as as you you possibly see. That's

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>part of it. Part of it is there's there's an

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>owner or an acting owner who she apparently was in

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 1>love with the idea of having um Becky Hammond as

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>as her coach. And I think I think that's really

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>what this is about, is about how can you give

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy to this guy a job to this guy considering,

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, what he was accused of over twenty years ago,

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>when there's a perfectly viable candidate who is on an

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>NBA bench and she interviewed and people liked her, and

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>there's there's just a lot more to it. Okay, So

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the reason he got the job is one everybody thinks

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Johnson's a bright guy. He kind of similarly serious, focused

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>culture guy. Totally get it. But also it's can he

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>can he keep Damian Lillard on board? Right? Like that's

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that's really it. I mean, I saw David Fizdale's now

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>on the front of the bench with the Lakers. Why

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>do you think that's going to happen? Well, because he's

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>got a great relationship with Lebron James. Like that is first,

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you've got to keep the most important people in your

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>on your team happy. But what else can they do

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>in Portland to keep Damian Lillard happy. Yeah, they're gonna

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>have to make you know, obviously some moves and I

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, you guys saw that cryptic tweet. I guess

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>it was an Instagram post from Damian Lillid the other

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>day and in the background I think it was a

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>WNBA game, but it was clearly purple and gold behind him.

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I like Damian lill I would take him

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>on my team in a second. I don't really like

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the way that he's a'mo this whole thing. I think

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>he's facing a lot of heap from the fans because

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 1>he endorsed first Jason Kidd and the Chauncey Billups or

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>some fans gave him criticism. He's open out of shape

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>about this. But here's my thing about Damian Lillard. You know,

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Damian Lillard again played for Portland, got swept by the Warriors,

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>his hometown team, Steph Curry, no Kevin Durant, and like,

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>nobody really brings that up. You think about other stars

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>in the league when they lose, they hear about it NonStop.

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>So in a lot of ways, Damian Lillard should be

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>happy that people always regard him as a great player.

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>He's a rapper. He's there. Oh, poor Damian Lillard. Yet

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>in the moment, and again, I'll take him on my

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>team tomorrow if I could. The biggest series of his life,

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.479
<v Speaker 1>he could not take a game off of the Warriors

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>without Kevin Durant. No, it's it's fair, it's it's the

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's actually the benefit of when you play in

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>a smaller market, right where you know, if things go bad,

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it's never your fault. And if you don't have anybody

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>if things go good, can you believe? Can you believe

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.239
<v Speaker 1>what you've been able to do? And you know, then

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>if you go to one of those kind of sort

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of super teams, I guess here's my question, Guys, if

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you're one of these older players, does the Chris Paul

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>going to a young team energize you to do that?

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Because traditionally what happens is these guys they don't get

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>together until they're thirty years old, right, And as we

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>saw with the Nets, you get to that age in

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>pieces breakdown and then the rest of the team is

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>all made up of older veteran guys who may or

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>may not have it like a Marcus all right. I

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>mean he just had nothing left in the tank, and

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you're you're kind of scrounging the bottom of the barrel.

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Or are you better off instead of doing that, joining

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>one of these young teams that have depth and talent.

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>They just don't have any experience in doing it, and

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you can be the alpha and the leader kind of

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the I think that's what Jimmy Butler did in Miami.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>It didn't work when he tried to do it in Philadelphia.

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>And think about it if Chris Paul had gone to

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the Utah Jazz, think about how that could have changed them.

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, last year I had heard, you know, some

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>scubble but Leon Rose obviously representing Chris Paul for a

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>long time. The Knicks tried to get him ten years ago,

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and I heard the Knicks We're gonna do everything they

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>could to get Chris Paul. I remember tweeting it out

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the Knicks, Oh, why don't we

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>want this old guy for it's the last thing we

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:12.719
<v Speaker 1>need now. I'm not saying the Knicks would have made

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.479
<v Speaker 1>it to the finals, but the Knicks would have been

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot better with Chris Paul. Chris Paul has managed

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to stay relatively healthy and again that leadership that he

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>brings to a young team. But they also have guys

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>that fall in line. You know, Michael Bridges played at Villanova.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>You know he was well coached. He's a terrific role players,

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>just like a lot of the Villanova guys are that

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>entered the NBA DeAndrea and I think it is a

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>lot better than a lot of people thought, maybe because

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the Luca Donchez got off to the great starts, or

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>we would you draft DeAndre in first overall? And Devin Booker,

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>who you know, when he first came into the league,

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like he was more concerned about scoring seventy

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>points in a loss and taking a picture of a

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>piece of paper with order with the number seventy hunt

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it than he was about winning. But that dude's a

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>winning player, man like, he does things to help this

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>team win. He played with that broken nose. So Chris

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Paul worked walked into a terrific situation with solid, you know,

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>young players and including an All Star and Booker and

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and a soon to be All Star in DeAndre eight Um.

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's a question for both of you, guys. Question,

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>both of you guys, do you think Lebron gets back

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to the championship level? You go first, Rob, No way, No,

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>how how about that. I'm on the I'm on the U.

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna step out there. No, I don't think so.

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they have room to add the

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of player that they need, and I don't think

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that they can always count on Anthony Davis. To me,

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the championship year in the bubble with the four month

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>layoff was the only year he really was able to

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>stay healthy. That was an anomaly. Most of the time,

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>this guy gets hurt. It's just if you look at

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>his career. So I'm saying, no, they don't get back.

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I hate to agree with the guy from Queens, New York,

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>but I think he's right. And you know, I always

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>say whatever, you know, I always say that Anthony Davis

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>average is like three grimaces a game, and you're thinking,

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is it for him. And you

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>just feel that Lebron when he sees Anthony Davis stopped playing,

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it almost as if Lebron is thinking, Dude, I'm the

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>one that should be missing games. I've been playing, I've

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>played a million playoff games, a million minutes. You need

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>to carry the team. Then we'll get to the playoffs

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and then I could do my thing. So I tend

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.479
<v Speaker 1>to agree with Robie. I think the unless they can

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>go out and make some kind of bold move, and

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe they could use Dennis Shrewder, you know, in a

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>sign and trade to get a player. I'm sure they're

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>going to try to go after Damian Lillard, you know,

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>something to to that degree, but they're gonna have to

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>make a big time move to get better. Yeah, I don't.

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>And and and for even Lebron himself, like he's still effective,

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>but his ability to dominate a game physically, it's just

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not there nearly as often as it used

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to be, nor should it be at at at this

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>stage in his in his career. Can squeeze one more

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in Frank, the Knicks have they reached their ceiling? And

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>what is really available to them? I mean there are

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.719
<v Speaker 1>no big time free agents, you know, to sign or anything.

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Where did the Knicks go from here other than home

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>dinner in the show. Yeah, I think Tom Tibott for everything,

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I blew it getting the number four

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>seeds this year because now the expectations they're going to

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>be through the roof. You're you're right, you know, you

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>know how it is in New York. Rob It's always

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be you know, they're always gonna shoot for

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the stars. Lebron James, he's gonna come. It's gonna be

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant, and then two summers ago it was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, of course he's gonna want to come to

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<v Speaker 1>New York where and the story of Queen's is the

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>biggest Greek population in the United States. Yeah, those guys

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>are all signing those contracts. They're gonna have to They're

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to get creative, They're gonna have to make

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a trade. That's one of the reasons why some people

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>in the organization wanted to sign Gordon Hayward because those

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>types of free agents don't become available all the time,

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and when you have a chance to get one, you

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>want to get that player. They didn't really make a

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>legitimate you know, run at him and you look at

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Gallinarready got signed by Atlanta, even Bogdanovitch. Maybe if the

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Knicks had tried to get, you know, one of those

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>guys that would have helped because the're definitely gonna need shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you go back to a couple of years ago,

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, they drafted Kevin Knox right ahead of Michael Bridges.

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that Michael Bridges, you know, is Michael Jordan,

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's a better player. He's a better player than

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Knox. I have to do a little better than

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the draft as well. No, I mean, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think Knox was one of those super young guys a

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>lot like Devin Booker. I think he was the youngest

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>player in the draft that year, and they they you know, um,

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>And I also think that that Michael Bridge is great.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>But he's great because he's being used in the perfect

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>way right Like they're not They're they're not saying, hey, dude,

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>we need to you go get us thirty a night

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 1>like No. No, he's standing over there in the corner,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.479
<v Speaker 1>make shots, slash occasionally, and guard the hell out of people.

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's what he does and so he doesn't. That

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>was his role in college, that's his role here. He's

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>he's tremendous at it. Let me ask you guys this,

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you could draft eight, right, so eight and Trey Young,

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>which way would you go right now, if you're starting

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a team, you're gonna go. You're still gonna go Luca first, right, Yes,

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I think so, I think. I don't think it's close, Yeah,

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>not to don't think it's particularly close the Clippers in

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, But I still would take him. Yeah, how

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that he's accomplished what he's accomplished us

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>for not necessarily a team standpoint, But he's as a player,

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>He's got the skills. He goes in, plays for his

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>national team and they had to qualify the going the Olympics.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Yet Ben Simmons, who could work on his game, decides

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>not to play for his national team against you know,

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>tough competition. Now, granted he was hanging out at Wimbledon

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>with Maya Jama who's got the greatest name of any

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>model in history. But like, what if I tell you,

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like Luca loves to play, and you look at Ben Simmons,

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you want to play in the Olympics. You

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>might play the United States in like the middle ground.

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>That's not a big deal. Correct, he should be playing

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>working on his game, and he's not. But again, like, look,

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you've talked about Anthony Davis and him not keeping his

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.919
<v Speaker 1>body together. Talking about Ben Simmons and not want to play.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>They're both rap bike by Clutch Sports. They just are.

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And like, I get, they've done an amazing job building

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in business. But the way to sustain that business is

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you got to not just be like, if you're gonna

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>be the advocate for the player casually, you gotta be

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:51.919
<v Speaker 1>able to pull that player aside and go like, hey, dude,

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys need to Anthony Davis needs to work on

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>his body. It should not be breaking down like this,

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>and Ben Simmons needs to be playing hoop because that's

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>not was that Lebron says, keeping the main thing, the

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>main thing. And I heard that they are working on

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons, that they really are trying to push him.

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:08.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, I don't know if they're

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>disappointed that he decided not to play the olympiccause I

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 1>think it's a huge mistake. You can't say I want

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>to work on my skill set, well, your skill set

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>would be training with the national team, playing in actual games. Correct, correct,

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 1>completely agree. Frank gys Sola Series x M NBA Radio

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Frank will see but all right, boys, take care, Yeah,

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.440
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0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>What did you What are you proud of? Yeah, Rogers

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and so many. I've been informed that I'm going into

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 1>my high school hall of fame Martin Van Buren High

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>School in Queens Village, New York, And what a proud

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:48.240
<v Speaker 1>moment for me um in high school Martin Van Buren

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>High School, and I'm going in. When I was in

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>high school, I started in all sports newspaper, which was

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>before the National Doug started. Came up with an idea

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>of an all sports newspaper that would come out every

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>month on time. In high school, I actually wrote a

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>letter to all the newspaper publishers in New York asking

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>for money to help start the paper. Because my principal said, hey,

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>we don't have money the kids. Aren't you going to

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>throw it on the ground? He like discouraged me from

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>doing it. And guess who sent me a check to

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>start my all sports newspaper, which was called sports Line

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>back in the day. None other then I addressed a

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>letter to Rupert Murdoch, the publisher of the New York Post,

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.439
<v Speaker 1>and I got a check from the New York Post

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to start my newspaper. How about that? Is that an

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable story? Called sports Line because the high school newspaper

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>was called the B Line because our nicknames were as

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the VB. So when they used to be there used

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to be sports Line USA. Did they give you any royalties?

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, they did not, and then CBS butt it

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>was CBS sports Line did see Yes, pay you any royalties?

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh no we didn't. And then you had a barbershop.

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>We had a barbershop show before Lebron had a barbershop. Yes,

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't pay you any royalties. No he did not,

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>called U Shop Talk. That was on TV and Detroit

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 1>way way way before Lebron show. But it's it doesn't matter.

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>My point is it came out of nowhere. I'm thrilled.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be uh inducted in September. And a couple

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>of names of only twelve people are in the High

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>School Hall of Fame. Donnie Deutsch, who know that name? Right?

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Donnie Deutsch from advertising and he was on the Today's Show.

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He did television. Madeline Cohn, the actress who's in a

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of funny movies, right, just keep keep going Keep

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>And the last one Bowser from Seanna Nah, a fifties

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of group. Uh So those are the three people

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I think of that. There are other people who are

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:00.320
<v Speaker 1>way smarter, who got Nobel Prize winners and stuff like that.

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>But there's a Nobel Prize winner that's that seems like

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.959
<v Speaker 1>that would be the Nobel Prize winner went to Martin

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Van Buren High School. Yes, there's a couple, but I'm

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>just saying, you know what I mean, Like it's hard

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>people don't won't recognize them. Those are the names they

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>would recognize. But I'm thrilled. Okay, real quick, Aaron Rodgers

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>not much to say during the match yesterday. Do you

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>think he's their first day of trading camp. Yes, he

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>will be there. I agree. I thought it was funny

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.800
<v Speaker 1>nikkil Harry wants to be traded for the Patriots. Patriots

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>probably love to trade nikkil Harry. They just trying to

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>get something back in return that I but I agree

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.720
<v Speaker 1>with you. I think it just there. There's an inevitability

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>for Aaron Rodgers ending up with the Green Bay Packers.

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Will they rework a deal, will they find a way

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to reconcile, or will they just play this whole circus

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>again as soon as the season's over. That's the only

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that'll be interesting to find out. Um, Okay, then

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>you have the the NBA. Did what you see last

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>night change in anyway your thoughts of this series. No.

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I picked the Son's Molly. Question is whether or not

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 1>people will embrace this series as it goes on, and

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>what the numbers. Obviously, they won't be as bad as

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>they were a year ago with Lebron and Miami. You know,

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>all the ratings were down down. I think that was

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the least watch NBA Finals ever, if I remember correctly

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>dug a year ago. But I don't know. I mean,

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>people want new teams, they say they do, and they

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be spread around. I'm just not so sure

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>what the numbers will be on this series. I don't

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>think they'll be very good, but I do think they'll

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>be made better if Milwaukee can bounce back and win

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and win Game two, which could well happen. I like,

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Chris Paul's dropping thirty four to night

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>That's not who he is. So we'll see how much

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>they adjust and how much if Chris Paul can do

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that night in and night out. Remember, he has played

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>less competitive basketball than any of these other starters because

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 1>he's had so much time off. The shoulder injury kept

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>him out, and then of course he had he had COVID,

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>so he looked fresh and rested. More so than anybody else.

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Will see what the adjustment is. I don't think it

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>rates well, but doesn't matter to me. It's two teams

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that have survived a crazy season, right, I hear you. Now.

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>All we can do is watch and enjoy at least

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>for the next four or five games, and that's what

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll do. But I'll be at the Baseball All Star

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Game next week, and that's where my focus is on

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball. Sorry, it's okay. Enjoy that island and

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