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Speaker 5: There you go, all right on today's show. Here we're

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Speaker 5: gonna preview Game two of the NBA Finals, which of

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Speaker 7: Well, I would have been really shocked if people liked something.

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Speaker 6: people will just hate anything. There's nothing wrong with this. Yes,

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Speaker 5: Will not be seeing Yao Ming on this list.

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Speaker 6: You managed, you know, you know, guys like that, like

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Speaker 6: rodmank Wow, whoat Dennis Rodman's automatic? For me, no question

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Speaker 6: Your own, I'm doing it again, mah. Okay. The twelve

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I gotta say Dennis Rodman is the big

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Speaker 6: This is for position number thirteen, okay, and I'll present

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Speaker 6: if you who you're thinking of in your mind. Okay,

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Speaker 1: That's him.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, he is going up against a guy who

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Speaker 5: Pick the crowd? You can only pick one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Wow, that's tough. You didn't have re Allen in

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Speaker 6: he scored more points. So you know, the more individual

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Speaker 7: But an interesting one when you look at a top

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Speaker 7: It's not like who are you taking on your team,

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Speaker 2: Okay, who has more first team appearances on the All

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Speaker 2: Not to mention Reggie would have been eligible for a

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Speaker 5: Between the Lee. I have some questions that I don't

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Speaker 6: You know, I believe he did.

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Speaker 5: Mellow is sort of along those lines, just an unbelievable score,

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Speaker 5: then is Dominique Wilkins on the fifty greatest players list?

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Speaker 5: Mellow if I had to pick between the two, but

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I just I just sort of think those

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Speaker 2: Dominique, Actually, I was gonna say, I don't think he's there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I didn't think so. Crazy, Okay, crazy, all right, all right?

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Speaker 6: Number two match up number two, match up number two here. Okay,

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Speaker 6: Surprisingly only finished with fourteen thousand points and seven thousand rebounds.

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Speaker 6: But I think he gets in and he guesses.

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Speaker 7: Well, sorry I was. I wasn't paying attention because I

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Speaker 7: want to clarify. No Alex English, no Dominique Wilkins in

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Speaker 6: Did look at I did? I did, for I thought

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Speaker 6: Nick was already in. I thought Nick was already in. Actually,

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Speaker 6: but anyway, he's not yet anyway, Alonzo Morning, Alonzo Mourning. Yes,

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Speaker 6: Alonso Morning is in there. Now he goes up against

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Speaker 5: Steve Nash or Alonzo Morning, Yeah, against each other.

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Speaker 6: people feel perhaps a little bit lucky to win both

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Speaker 6: But see that's why I said it's this is not

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Speaker 6: think people forget those. The first ten years for his career,

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean he's going to be on

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Speaker 5: you should be on this list.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean I left Yana Souf. I thought

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Speaker 5: how is he not on it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You know that because I don't. I don't know. There

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Speaker 2: I don't think Alonzo Morning is going to really be

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Speaker 6: He had like a good four or five years there where.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's like if.

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Speaker 7: like you love Grant, you love the ones and working

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Speaker 7: for a lot of people, Nash's there's no way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, as you said, seventeen thousand points, you'd think, you know,

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Speaker 7: It's just this idea you put in your head. Of

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Speaker 2: actually think Giannis will be a top seventy five guy.

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Speaker 2: I think it's not dissimilar to Shaq back in ninety seven.

434
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 2: He only played a couple of seasons, but the guy's

435
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 2: got two MVPs already. I mean, that's going to easily

436
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 2: get you into this list.

437
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, one hundred percent agree with that. A

438
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 5: good debat if you had to pick between one or

439
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 5: the other, Grant Hill's career or Vince Carter's career.

440
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 6: Well, Vin Vince was one I was I was going

441
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 6: back and forth on because again just the longevity of

442
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 6: his career. But I'm like, it's interesting with Vince because

443
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 6: he played forever. I scored a ton of points, but

444
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 6: obviously the playoff success really wasn't there for him either,

445
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 6: you know, And and how much longer did he just

446
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 6: sort of drag his career out for But I think

447
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 6: he gets in any way, just because it's like you

448
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 6: played forever, man, You're in.

449
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 5: You know, Vince went from I don't know, you see

450
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 5: Treve Rolins on this list.

451
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Speaker 6: But that's what I mean. I don't know what the

452
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 6: criteria is, and I'm not sure how they debate them

453
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 6: and how they're going to pick these out. Anyway, that's great.

454
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Speaker 6: So we've got Steve Nash in a blowout and and

455
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 6: Carmello in a blowout as well. Okay, number three, Hall

456
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 6: of Famer, nine time All NBA, nine time All Star,

457
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 6: Defensive Player of the Year winner and a rare non

458
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 6: big to win this award. Yeah, twenty one thousand points,

459
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 6: nine thousand assists, fourth all time in steals, a good

460
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 6: playoff performer, and did win a championship with Zoe actually,

461
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 6: but at their tail end of his career, going up

462
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 6: against also a Hall of famer, seven time All NBA,

463
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 6: seven time All Star, really dominant eighteen eight year stretch

464
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 6: from two thousand to two thousand and eight, that's where

465
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 6: he did most of his work, but only finished with

466
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 6: eighteen thousand points and famously never really never went beyond

467
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 6: the first round of the playoffs.

468
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 5: Him a greedy Yeah, so GP versus Trasey mcgreedy, Yeah,

469
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 5: here we go. That's a hell of that's nice. That's

470
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 5: a fun debat right there, if you could only have one.

471
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, it's to me, this is a little like

472
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 7: Nash versus Morning, because Gary Peaton is a little bit

473
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 7: more embedded in the history books of the NBA, in

474
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Speaker 7: the story of the NBA, like like Nash is to me,

475
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 7: like he just he was he was the nineties. He

476
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 7: you know, he was a bit of a foil to MJ.

477
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 7: He's got an incredible nickname. He you know, he was,

478
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 7: he was a mouthpiece. I can't I can't take t

479
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 7: Maac against Gary Payton.

480
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: I just it's just.

481
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 7: I get when you go play versus player, But for me,

482
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 7: some of some of the hiss, the stories about them,

483
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Speaker 7: the lore kind of plays into my pick. So I

484
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Speaker 7: got GP.

485
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Speaker 5: Try.

486
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Speaker 2: I think I'm Gary Payton here as well. He's got

487
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Speaker 2: some major NBA accomplishments. He went to the finals as

488
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Speaker 2: a star, he won a championship as a role player.

489
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Speaker 2: Tracy McGrady, I mean, he's the top seventy five players

490
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Speaker 2: of the past twenty five years. I would agree with that,

491
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Speaker 2: but I don't think he's uh. I don't think I'm

492
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Speaker 2: taking him over Gary Payton unless you're talking pants widest

493
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: pants Tracy McGrady. But Gary Payton I'm taking.

494
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Speaker 1: For a player.

495
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's tough, like because of our

496
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 5: age to like, you know, just learning that Dominique Wilkins

497
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 5: isn't even in there is like what the hell? Well,

498
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 5: you got to correct that. He's got to be in

499
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 5: and then you know, I know GP at the time

500
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 5: they made the fifty greatest players in the history. He

501
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 5: probably wasn't there yet though he had had a lot

502
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 5: of his accolades and was a great, great player, you know,

503
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 5: going to the finals around that time. Yeah, that's why

504
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 5: I lean towards him. If I have to pick between

505
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 5: the two, I think, Wow, will Tracy be in there?

506
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: Is?

507
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Speaker 6: I think, yeah, I mean Tracy Tracy as a scorer,

508
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 6: you know, for a couple of years there was like

509
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 6: I think he led the league scoring twice. You know,

510
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 6: he was so so impressive like that. But he also

511
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 6: like his career sort of tailed off a lot. His

512
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 6: career ended a lot earlier his prime anyway than then

513
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 6: New sort of remember, I think he was only thirty

514
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 6: one when it basically had his last really good season.

515
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 6: But for a couple of years there, I thought he

516
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 6: was just incredible for you know, four or five years.

517
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 6: But then Gary Payton, a double end player, you know,

518
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 6: played both ends of the floor. Really one of the

519
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 6: most established sort of two way defensive point guards the league.

520
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 6: You know, to win that award the Defensive Player of

521
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 6: the Year from his position, you know, is extremely rare. So,

522
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 6: you know, but McGrady was a better scorer. I think

523
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 6: than Gary Payton, you know, so.

524
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's oh man, this is like like, is Mitch

525
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 5: Richmond going to be on this list?

526
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 6: He's in the whole thing? Yeah, no, he went.

527
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 5: I know, I don't think so either, but you do

528
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 5: wonder like my tumble.

529
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 6: Exactly how Tumbo. You know it's gonna be a little

530
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 6: it's gonna like, does Yao ming get this sort of

531
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 6: like you know, popular sort of vote. I don't think

532
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 6: so not, but you know, yeah, so anyway, I say

533
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 6: we've got Peyton Carmello, Anthony and Steve Nash.

534
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, it all makes sense. It all makes sense.

535
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 5: I think it will ultimately be included. What about Okay,

536
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 5: like we said, Yannis, I'm with your Trey. I think

537
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 5: he does get picked to this is Kui Leonard given

538
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 5: me be on this?

539
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was quick. Yeah, I mean he's a multiple

540
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 2: time MVP, he's a Defensive Player of the Year, Our

541
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: Finals MVP. He's a multiple time All Star, multiple time

542
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: All NBAU. He took down Lebron in his prime. Like

543
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: that's super impressive. I think Kawhi is an easy ad here.

544
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 5: Dwight Howard, no one, Wow, really you don't think so?

545
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: I don't now that I think about it, probably is

546
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: probably top twenty five of the past twenty five years.

547
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: I would have him there over a Lonza morning.

548
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just trying to think of names we have said, Like,

549
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Harden and Westbrook are going to be hard.

550
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 6: James Harden, James Harden's in. I don't think, we don't think.

551
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 5: I mean, we keep saying guys are in.

552
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: I don't know what.

553
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 5: Remember, we're at this point, we're damn close to twenty five.

554
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 5: But the number of names we said, so people are

555
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 5: not going to be making it well.

556
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 6: Another good debate is Paul Pierce. I mean, I don't

557
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 6: like Paul Pierce at all, but you can hard to

558
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 6: sort of knock, you know, his achievements. He won the championship,

559
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 6: he won the finals, MVP. I think he's the Celtics

560
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 6: all time leading scorer. That's going to carry some weight

561
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 6: for him, you know. And he had some big playoff

562
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 6: moments as well, so he's going to be hard to

563
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 6: keep out.

564
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, lining them up if they court, they line him

565
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 7: up at mid court. If Paul Pierce came out in

566
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 7: a wheelchair while everybody was standing, he would win the day.

567
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 5: He would win the day be very funny. Uh this

568
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 5: it's like this is the ultimate version of Hey, what

569
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 5: about the.

570
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: Years of guys?

571
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, twenty five we're going back further. Man,

572
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 7: we're talking about Dominique's got to be it what the other.

573
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 6: Thing is as well? Will the NBA like to just

574
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 6: add some international players just to sort of show a

575
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 6: bit of variety that like a power gasol. You know,

576
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 6: you got Dirk and already, you know, does Paracasol get

577
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 6: in there? You know, I don't. I think I don't.

578
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

579
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 5: But I we're naming, I can't have them.

580
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 7: If guys are if guys have similar careers, an international

581
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 7: guy gets the nod just because he's international, Yeah, I

582
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 7: think so, Like if they have the exact same careers,

583
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 7: I think like he gets a little little tiny bump

584
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 7: just because he's non American, showing the globalization of the game.

585
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 5: Okay, who will be? So is it gonna be who's

586
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 5: gonna be the shack of this list?

587
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 8: Like?

588
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 5: Will they go? There's no way they go?

589
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 6: Luca No, I mean, I mean Giannis is is almost

590
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 6: that yes, I mean he's.

591
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: Not MVPs already though. It is the big difference.

592
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, love it. Okay, Zion, I gotta

593
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: say your list the crazy ones are Grant Hill just because.

594
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 6: Obviously, look now I probably have a box.

595
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 5: The Rudman in your in your like your top ten,

596
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 5: like a lock lock. We're looking for locks here. I

597
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 5: don't think I agree with that. I think he's more

598
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 5: of a borderline actual twenty you know, the new twenty

599
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 5: five guys, that's what.

600
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, but see Rudman again. He has the playoff and

601
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 6: he has the individual sort of achievement, now not the

602
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 6: all style in the old NBA, but the defensive player

603
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 6: of the year and just the rebounding, you know, the

604
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 6: freakish rebounding that he did. So I think he gets in.

605
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 6: I think though. Five championships, two with Pistons, three with

606
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 6: the Bulls.

607
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 5: I see the stream team saying, could it be possible

608
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: this version of Shack for this new list, Could it

609
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 5: be Jokic? Yeah, which is probably more comparable, like a

610
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 5: borderline guy, and like you're taking a not a borderline guy.

611
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 5: You're like taking a chance or you're hoping fingers crossed

612
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 5: that if we name this guy, he goes on to

613
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 5: win another MVP or whatever, have incredible numbers for another

614
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: five to ten years, maybe win a title or two.

615
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 5: Like that's what you're That's what they were banking on

616
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 5: with Shack. He was just so damn dominant. They felt

617
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: pretty comfortable doing it, and again they nailed it. They

618
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 5: got that one. Oh yeah, Okay, Well.

619
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 7: I could be swayed on Pow. I don't have the

620
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 7: list of twenty five guys in front of me of

621
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 7: who I would take, but Powell, he's right there.

622
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 6: Well here's a good one power versus Chris Webber. Who

623
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 6: would you take out of that?

624
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: Right?

625
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, I mean we get Yeah, you get into

626
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 5: the Palagasol, the Weber, the Chris Bosh like that sort

627
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: of you know level I guess to call it. Of guys,

628
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: it's going to be fascinating. Who will be the most controversial?

629
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 5: I mean Westbrook.

630
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: Westbrook a big Yeah. Westbrook will be a big one.

631
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, either whether or not because he makes it, he

632
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 5: will be pissed or if he doesn't make it, people

633
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 5: will be pissed. Yeah, I'll be fine. Okay, Well, we

634
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 5: definitely got to turn this into a summer podcast where

635
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 5: we hit you with the actual twenty five guys that

636
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: we think should be added, Yeah, we'll do that. That

637
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 5: was funny, good stuff.

638
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Penny hurried away for your thoughts.

639
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 6: Lee Penny. I couldn't believe how few points and things

640
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 6: that he scored. Like it felt to me that Penny

641
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 6: for five or six years was like, you know, one

642
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 6: of he was one of the best players, but he

643
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 6: really that was his peak. That was all he really did.

644
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 6: And he went from being like I think, oh, you

645
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 6: think Penny gets in, and I was like, he's got

646
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 6: no chance, no chance, no, So but I think, and

647
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 6: again I remember him, and probably a little bit the

648
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Speaker 6: same with grand Hill. I remember like for those years like,

649
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 6: oh my god, these guys are so so good, and

650
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 6: I think grand Hill, I think grand Hill gets in.

651
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 6: I think he did enough in his dominant years to

652
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 6: get in. And you know, because he was he changed

653
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 6: the position a little bit. He was kind of that

654
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 6: point forwarde so athletic. He could score, he could rebound,

655
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 6: you could pass the ball, he did it all.

656
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the.

657
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Speaker 5: Thing he doesn't. He doesn't even have like college Walton has,

658
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 5: like in the NBA, like his the high super highs

659
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 5: of championships and stuff like that, and then a career

660
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: sort of derailed like he doesn't. Hill doesn't even have

661
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: that unfortunately.

662
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think if he ever, it's it's you

663
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 7: just you were just loving basketball.

664
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Speaker 1: Then it's like your peak, your peak love of music.

665
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: Then you know that's when you were swayed.

666
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 5: You know.

667
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 7: Like, if it's a neutral observer now, as good as

668
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 7: Grant could have been, I don't see.

669
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 6: I just wonder if the voters are like, yeah, Grant,

670
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 6: we we're going to give you a past because of

671
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 6: the injuries that you stuff it because a lot of

672
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 6: the voters I think of players who are already in there.

673
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 5: That's true, their media and their players and their former

674
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: and current GMS, or at least they were in maybe

675
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 5: six ninety seven when they did this.

676
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm putting Brandon Royan there.

677
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 5: Screw it. Oh, now getting crazy? Now we are getting crazy. Okay,

678
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: let's take a break and then we'll start previewing Game

679
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 5: two of the NBA Finals. Back with no dunks. Let's

680
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: get into Game two of the NBA Finals tonight, Suns

681
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 5: with the one oh series lead. Of course, biggest question

682
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 5: tasks heading into this game? What is it to you?

683
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: Well, right off the top, the things I'm going to

684
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: be watching.

685
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 7: Are is PJ. Tucker on Chris Paul again? Is that possible?

686
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 7: The matchups are going to be juicy from the get go.

687
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 7: Mike Budholzer got a little cute from the get go.

688
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 7: Kudos to him. Everybody gets on the Bucks coach for

689
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 7: not adapting. Well, he adapted right away. But PJ Tucker

690
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 7: on Chris Paul thinking the switch would work with him

691
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 7: going to DeAndre eight and when Ate and came and

692
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 7: set that pick, well, that's not going to happen.

693
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I think Drew Holiday will be on Chris Paul.

694
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 7: So that matchup is going to be what I'm watching

695
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 7: right from the get go. Because maybe that took Drew

696
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 7: Holliday out of the game a little bit being off

697
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 7: the ball. I don't know that's an excuse for him.

698
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 7: But I think the Bucks just getting back to their

699
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 7: defensive core, their values, and that's you know, get Drew

700
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 7: on the point guard. And I think they should try

701
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 7: and confuse Chris Paul as much as possible, as much

702
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 7: as possible because it's not really possible to confuse Chris Paul,

703
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 7: but you know, to throw the different coverages at him,

704
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 7: you know, one after the other, your drop, your switch,

705
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 7: and then going small with Yanni stent to goopa. All

706
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 7: those they got to be ready for that. Speaking of

707
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 7: Yanni set to coop o, you got to unleash the freak.

708
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 7: You need more Greek freak.

709
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: I think they're being a little bit cautious with him in.

710
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 7: His first game back now but said no, we're just playing,

711
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 7: and that's what happened. But Yanni's can't just take eleven shots.

712
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 7: He's got to be more involved. They had only two

713
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 7: times did they run that pick and roll where he's

714
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 7: setting the screen and then it's you know, red Rover,

715
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 7: red Rover, Here comes Chris Middleton and Yanny's just flying

716
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 7: to the hoop together. How do you stop that? So

717
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 7: I think you need more of that. Yanni's look good

718
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 7: in game one. He should get better as the series

719
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 7: goes on. He's just got to be more. And then

720
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 7: I'm going to watch the free throw discrepancy because it

721
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 7: went towards the Suns in game one. I don't think

722
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 7: all the calls were great, but they were the ones

723
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 7: forcing imposing their will on the Bucks, so they should

724
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 7: get more calls. But I assume that that's not going

725
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 7: to happen in game two. I assume the Bucks will

726
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 7: come back with a little bit more defensive effort, just

727
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 7: like they sort of did from game to one Game

728
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 7: two in the Eastern Conference Finals. Tree goes for forty

729
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 7: eight in Game one, while they come back and figure

730
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 7: their way out in game two a little bit. Just

731
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 7: get back to defensive principles, Brook in his position more so,

732
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 7: figure that out. And then of course I'm going to

733
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 7: be watching Devin Booker on the bench. We saw him

734
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 7: with the label on his water bottle, the old bubble letters,

735
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 7: huge bubble letters that screamed book. Tons of memes coming

736
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 7: out of that, including the Hooters logo in the book.

737
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 7: I sent that to our friend Cam Stewart on Twitter.

738
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 7: I would expect a great reaction from Cam, who likes

739
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 7: who and loves wings, but I don't think he really

740
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 7: knows how to work Twitter that well, so that's probably

741
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 7: what happened with our man Camp Stewart. Either way, the

742
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 7: memes were great. Eight AND's got a similar one just

743
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 7: as Ayton on his. But I just love bubble letters.

744
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 7: It's nice to see those back.

745
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: I used to I used to like write or draw

746
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call so many bubble letters when

747
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 5: I was a kid and three D letters too, had

748
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: a big phase doing that for a while. I never

749
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: know that now now you're just telling your computer, But

750
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: that was the thing. A little dudling was happening when

751
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 5: you were in school.

752
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: Had to make your own fonts.

753
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. Okay, So you're watching a lot

754
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 5: of things there. Yeah, is Drew Holiday on Chris Paul,

755
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 5: which we expect he should be at least a lot more.

756
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 5: And how they play the pick and roll coverage, that's

757
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: that's a huge part. You want your honest involved a

758
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 5: hell of a lot more. Hopefully that's okay with the

759
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 5: knee and all that. And then yeah, that free throw discrepancy,

760
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 5: does it even out a little bit more? And just

761
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 5: because the Bucks play with a little more aggressiveness, good

762
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 5: stuff there. Would you have anything to add tk A

763
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 5: big questions heading into game too.

764
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: I want to see who Brook Lopez is guarding, because

765
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: personally I think he should be on Jay Crowder from

766
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: the start here, and I think Yanna should be the

767
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: guy taking eighton, like Tasa say. And the Bucks are

768
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: gonna need to switch up their coverages, which they did

769
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: in game one. It was just kind of like a

770
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: half to half thing. It almost has to be a

771
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: possession to possession thing to at least make the Sun's

772
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: back court Chris Paul and Devin Booker think about it

773
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: for a second, you know, rather than just be like,

774
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: here's what we're seeing every single time down, here's what

775
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: we're seeing every single time down, I think basically the

776
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Bucks need to take away at least one of the

777
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: big three from the Suns, whether it be Booker, Chris

778
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: Paul or Aighton. In Game one, they didn't do either

779
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: of it. We were talking about they could have a

780
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: three way finals MVP, And to me, if you have

781
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Jannis guarding Aighton there as the role man, you're kind

782
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: of daring the Suns to beat you. With Jay Crowder.

783
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: And like Jay Crowder is the fifth option and the

784
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: Sun's starting lineup, I would rather him take shots than

785
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: basically anybody else if it's going to be an eight

786
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: and dunk, no thank you. Michael Bridges is a better

787
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: outside shooter than Jay Crowder, and Chris Paul and Devin

788
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: Booker obviously lights out anytime they're in the flow. So

789
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: I would like to see the Bucks switch up the

790
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: matchups a little bit here because they got to get

791
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more from brook Lopez. He's one of

792
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 2: the best players on the Bucks. You got to play

793
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: your best players a lot. He can't just go for

794
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes lee anything.

795
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 6: That just just going back to the free throws there,

796
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 6: because Mike Budenholzer was asked about it and he was

797
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 6: cautious in sort of calling out the disparity there. I

798
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 6: don't think he's been fine. I haven't seen anything. I

799
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 6: don't think they're going to find him either, but it

800
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 6: is a big It was a big factor in game one.

801
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 6: The Son's got the line a lot and the Bucks didn't,

802
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 6: and Chris Middleton got zero free throws, and I think

803
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 6: that is something that you know, the squeaky wheel gets

804
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 6: the grease. So I wonder if that is something that

805
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 6: does change here in game two, that the rest give

806
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 6: maybe a few more calls there to Milton because I

807
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 6: thought he was unlucky a few times. And it can

808
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 6: be one of those swinging factors in the game. And

809
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 6: you know, the Sun's outplayed the Bucks in game one,

810
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 6: but certainly there was a big discrepancy there. So we'll

811
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 6: see how the whistle goes in game two.

812
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of unlucky Sons forward Dario Sarich suffered a

813
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: torn e cl in his rate ning in Game one

814
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 5: of the Finals. He's outen definitely five year vet. He

815
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 5: came into the Finals averaging about five points in eleven

816
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 5: minutes per game, so obviously not filling up the box score,

817
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 5: but that's a good ten or eleven you were getting

818
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 5: from him. He was their backup center there behind Eton.

819
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 5: So it'll maybe this sounds like a silly question because

820
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 5: some people are like, what Dario sory tr are you

821
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 5: kidding me? But how do the Sons adjust lee to

822
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 5: the loss of him to your backup center going down?

823
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 5: What will Monty Williams and the Sun's coaching staff do

824
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 5: you think?

825
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Frank Kaminski didn't have a good run in

826
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 6: game one and he is their next sort of automatic big,

827
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 6: but I'll be surprised if we do see him here

828
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 6: in game two. I think instead Monty Williams will pretty

829
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 6: much just go small in the minutes that Aighton is out. Now,

830
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 6: if Ayton is not in foul trouble, that won't be

831
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 6: a huge problem here for Phoenix, But if he was

832
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 6: to get in foul trouble, they had to play extended

833
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 6: minutes with small ball, that could potentially give the Bucks

834
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 6: a chance inside. But when you look at some of

835
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: the players who will probably play as they're five in

836
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 6: that in those minutes, Tory Craig, he's six foot seven.

837
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 6: You know, Cam Johnson six foot eight as well, So

838
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 6: those are the sort of guys I think are going

839
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 6: to fill in more so than Frank the tank. Frank

840
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 6: might get a handful of mens maybe if Monty's feeling

841
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 6: generous and says, let's see if he can be better

842
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 6: than you were in Game one, But I think ultimately

843
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 6: the Suns will just instead try to go fairly small

844
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 6: ball for that period and uh and and sort of

845
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 6: almost dare the Bucks to beat them inside because if

846
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 6: brook Lopes is out there and he and there's no

847
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 6: one who can stop him, I think the Bucks have

848
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 6: to attack the paint. But we didn't see a lot

849
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 6: of that in game one, so I don't think it's

850
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 6: a huge concern here for Phoenix. I think they feel

851
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 6: that they can, you know, play okay with those minutes

852
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 6: where Ayton is on the bench.

853
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: Tass, is this a concern at all for the Phoenix Suns?

854
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: Sorrge going down for the rest of the series.

855
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 7: I think Dariosarx plays bigger than his size when he

856
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 7: gets in there, he's he's a tough dude, so you

857
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 7: don't lose a lot when he's on the floor. Covince

858
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 7: he doesn't really play that same way. So yeah, it

859
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 7: would concern me. But I think Aton's minutes just go up.

860
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 7: He just has to play more, So it's not it's

861
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 7: not a huge concern. But I think if you triangle

862
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 7: some I think you could get hurt on the glass.

863
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 7: Like brook Lopez did have five offensive rebounds in Game one,

864
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 7: that number could go up even higher. So Ayton, you know,

865
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 7: he plays around the forty minute mark every single game

866
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 7: throughout the postseason. Anyways, if he has to go to

867
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 7: forty three, forty four, so be it. I mean he's

868
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 7: played as much as forty two this postseason, so yeah,

869
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 7: I think he just you just see more, Ayton, because yeah,

870
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 7: the alternative is is a little scary. Even if it's

871
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 7: not brook Lopez, it is a Yuan Stet Koombo.

872
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean they have.

873
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 7: A lottious guys. Yeah, so they could get hurt more

874
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 7: Aton probably.

875
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, if Kaminsky isn't playing in these backup center minutes, Trey,

876
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 5: it's it's Tory Craig. I doubt we'll see their other

877
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 5: big guy, what at Smith. Yeah, yeah, I don't think

878
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 5: Money would Money Wims would do that. But you know,

879
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: Tory Craig, he was fine in Game one, He's been

880
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 5: fine at other times in this postseason run. I think

881
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 5: they could. I think Money Williams is content with, like

882
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: he can give us ten minutes, you know.

883
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: And I don't think this is a big kick here.

884
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: I think Frank Kaminsky maybe he'll get a little taste

885
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: in the first half. Let it fly, Frank, that's what

886
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: your best at. Shoot a three pointer. If it goes in,

887
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: maybe you get to play one more minute. If not, though,

888
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: that guy's a walking mismatch for the Suns, unfortunately, because

889
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: it's a bucket anytime he's out there. But this is

890
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: not a concern. Play eight and you know, forty plus minutes.

891
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: He got two days off after here. You can run

892
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: Cam Johnson for some more minutes. You can run Tory

893
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: Craig for some more minutes and snagger things with Jay

894
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Crowder Like he can guard a small ball five, he

895
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: can guard Bobby Portis. That's not something that the Suns

896
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: really need to be worried about. And you know there's

897
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: a nice little rest after this, so run eight and

898
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: into the ground. Have him ready for game three as well? Well?

899
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 5: Did you look up the Frank Kaminski player prop bet

900
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 5: for tonight like like a sicko cam stort would with

901
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 5: Tjacker in the first quarter? Because that's my final question here.

902
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: We had a lot of fun doing this for game one.

903
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 5: What's your favorite player prop bet for Game two of

904
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 5: the NBA Finals? Tray? Is there one for to take commission?

905
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 5: Hold on? Hold on one and a half points?

906
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: Over? First, I gotta pull this up. I'm going deep here.

907
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: PJ.

908
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: Tucker's over under his four and a half points, Oh man,

909
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: for the game of the game, for the game, take

910
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 2: the over, Take the over on PJ. Tucker. I didn't

911
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: want to even expect you that. While Frank Kaminski doesn't

912
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: even make the list here, Oh wow, Wow, that's tough.

913
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: That's a tough one for Frank. For me, my prop

914
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: bet that I actually really do like Brook Lopez over

915
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: twelve and a half points. Brook hasn't been excellent in

916
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: game twos, but he's been pretty solid lately. He's got

917
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: thirteen or more points in six of his last ten games,

918
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: fifty percent or better shooting in each of his last

919
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: six games. And to me, when the Bucks decide to

920
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: play to their strengths, that's when Brook Lopez has really

921
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: big games. And I expect to see a little bit

922
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: more of that tonight. He only played twenty two minutes

923
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: in game one, but he still scored seventeen points, hit

924
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: four threes, and I think he needs to play more

925
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: in game two. You know, it always feels like the

926
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: solution for the Bus is go small, go small, go small,

927
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: But that means you're taking one of your best players

928
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: off the court and there's a center out there for

929
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: him to match up against. That's the other thing. It's

930
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: not like the Sons are playing small the entire time.

931
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: They got a big guy and DeAndre and out there.

932
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: I think Lopez can handle closer to thirty minutes and

933
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: I think you'll score to it.

934
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 5: Okay, so twelve and a half points over you're taken

935
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: for Ppez in game two, Lee, what do you got

936
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 5: your eye on tonight?

937
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 6: Yes, Well, for a player prop bet, I am going

938
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 6: to go with the low hanging fruit I think on

939
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 6: this one and just take Chris Paul. He is where

940
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 6: is it here? I've got it here. He is the

941
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 6: first field goal plus four fifty could be.

942
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 5: Eight field yeah, yeah, over hundreds.

943
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 6: I want Chris Paul for that, because again, this is

944
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 6: I think the Suns really just want to, you know,

945
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 6: hammer home the advantage they have here. And Chris Paul,

946
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 6: as we saw in Game one, I don't think he's

947
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 6: going to wait to the third core. He's going to

948
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 6: get this one done early on. So Chris Paul plus

949
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 6: four fifty.

950
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: Lee, I got a clarified here. Do you think it's

951
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: gonna be a two pointer or a three pointer? Because

952
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 2: there is a prop bet for the exact method as well.

953
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, what's the what's the proper I think.

954
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: For a two plus four thousand? For a three Jesus,

955
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: you know what.

956
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 6: Let's let's let's.

957
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: Live a little.

958
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 5: Let's it's gonna be.

959
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 6: It's gonna be. It's gonna be a Chris Paul three

960
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 6: pointer at the end of the shot clock. That's what

961
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 6: it's gonna be. It's gonna be one of those ones

962
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 6: very flings out.

963
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: If there's a shot clock stipulation here as well.

964
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 5: Hold on, this has to be it's the first basket

965
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: of the game, right, it's not just the Suns.

966
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, you're crazy.

967
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 5: Ellis Yeah.

968
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 6: Gambling. Gambling when you've got absolutely nothing, it's taken.

969
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: It's pretty easy.

970
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 6: It's a whole lot of fun too, because it's like,

971
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 6: who cares. PJ. Tucket didn't go the other night. I

972
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 6: didn't lose a thing, but if I had one, people said,

973
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 6: oh my god, that's true.

974
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 5: It's true.

975
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 7: But here you're going against what you said in game

976
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 7: one that Brook Lopez would win the tip.

977
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: You're thinking it's going to come back.

978
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 6: Not necessarily, Yeah, exactly. I think I think Brooke does

979
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 6: win the tip. Again, I didn't think the bucket school

980
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 6: or I think, yeah, I think they missed. Chris Middleton

981
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 6: misses a mid ranger and then the Sun's come down,

982
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 6: and then he has light in the clock and it

983
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 6: gets a Chris Paul step from the top right hand

984
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 6: corner of the of the three point line.

985
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: I would like every single player player who makes the

986
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: fifteenth field goal for the Sun simulation with.

987
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 7: I know you didn't look this this uply, but Chris

988
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 7: Paul did take the first shot for the Phoenix Suns

989
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 7: last game.

990
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 5: In game one.

991
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah I missed, but that's that's a good side.

992
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 5: Okay, remember Lee SA three on the right wing there

993
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 5: from Chris Paul first escamating Game two the NBA f

994
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 5: welf task. Do you have a player prop bet that's

995
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 5: got your eye? I got some dollars signs lined up.

996
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 7: I'm jumping on that Brook Lopez bandwagon. His rebound total

997
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 7: is five and a half. Gotta go over hit the overka.

998
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 7: He had six in game one and he only played

999
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 7: twenty two minutes. I expect him to play more. I

1000
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 7: expect him to be not switching as much out on

1001
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 7: the perimeter. I think he'll be hanging out in the

1002
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 7: lane a little bit more with DeAndre Ayton, so he

1003
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 7: won't be guarding Chris Paul like they did last game.

1004
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 7: Or they'll be fighting and they switch back. They'll they'll

1005
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 7: definitely get Lopez in the lane more. And yeah, I

1006
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 7: mean if if the Sons do go a little bit small,

1007
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 7: that bodes well for brook Lopez. On the offensive glass,

1008
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 7: he had five offensive rebounds. That's nearly the line right there.

1009
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't have it.

1010
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: We're like at least above half of those on like

1011
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 5: one possession. Like the old classic.

1012
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look again, that's what Ayton did

1013
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 6: to get the beef, and they didn't give it to him.

1014
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 6: He tipped it before Chris Paul got it.

1015
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 5: I mean it's not an I don't know, he did

1016
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 5: not secure. It's a little different, like because that's a

1017
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 5: that's a rebound, like he's almost by the free throw

1018
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 5: line where that thing's bounce into. Well, these ones with Brook,

1019
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: like you see it all the time. It's like, you know,

1020
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 5: the Moses a lot basically just missing a bunch of layups,

1021
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 5: but you're getting a rebound every time because you're picking

1022
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 5: a shot. Okay, so wow, guys putting a lot of

1023
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 5: money on Brook Lopez, the points, the rebounds, I guess

1024
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: the jump ball we're saying again. And then Lee has

1025
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 5: Chris Paul hitting the first shot of the game and

1026
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: it is a three pointer plus four thousand. This guy

1027
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 5: just love like you liking living and dying by the

1028
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 5: first made field goal.

1029
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 6: I don't know A yeah, well, you know when you

1030
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 6: like the Super Bowl, you have all those prop bets

1031
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 6: and the same in Auzi rules when you have the

1032
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 6: Grand Final. Yeah, well I think we've done that. Sketchy

1033
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 6: down at the at the pub there. You know, it's

1034
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 6: like first goalscorer and you know first team. It's always fun.

1035
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 6: Could you like, come on, you're into it from the start.

1036
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 6: And if you mean, then you're set for the life.

1037
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: Just set for late.

1038
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 8: I love it for life. I just made a million

1039
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 8: dollars strictly betting on the Bucks to win the jump

1040
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 8: ball in the NBA Finals.

1041
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 6: You know, this is a This is a This's a

1042
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 6: great video of Cam Stewart out there, basically someone recording

1043
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 6: him throughout the day of the Super Bowl. Starts off oh.

1044
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 8: Man and then the crash store this podcast.

1045
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 5: I don't have this in the show notes, but let's

1046
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 5: get it out there for the record. Do you think

1047
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 5: the Bucks tie this series up tonight? T K or

1048
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 5: is it going back to Milwaukee? Them down to it?

1049
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: I think we get a bounce back game for the Bucks.

1050
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: They look a lot better and we go back to Milwaukee.

1051
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 5: Oh too, Oh okay, okay, Tas What do you think?

1052
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 7: I think we got a bounce back game for the

1053
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 7: Milwaukee Bucks and we go back to Milwaukee one?

1054
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

1055
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 5: This this guy's got bucks and six he needs a

1056
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 5: one one. I would say, uh, I need it man,

1057
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 5: I'm trying.

1058
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get set for life, son.

1059
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 5: Jesus, that's why. That's while you're having to pull the

1060
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: shirts off your bob, this guy's already got a lot

1061
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: of money on the line. Uh, Lee, who do you

1062
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 5: got tonight?

1063
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 6: Let's hope the Bucks win. It would be great for

1064
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 6: the series if Milwaukee does get the split going back there.

1065
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 6: So let's hope. So and yeah, let's go to Let's

1066
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 6: go to Milwaukee one one. Let's have some fun. I

1067
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 6: can't wait for that Game three, first basket. I'm already thinking.

1068
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 5: About going to head to Sunday night. Fascinating. All right,

1069
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 5: let's get to tweeted the night.

1070
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: Tweet over the night? Wow, Twitter, Yeah.

1071
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 5: GK, tweet the night man, what do you got? I

1072
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 5: hope there were some good tweets, like some solid tweets.

1073
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: I gotta preface this tweet of the night by letting

1074
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: you guys on a little bit of news that I

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Speaker 2: found out. Tampa Bay Lightning won their second straight Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cup last night. Congratulations to Vincent Lecavlier, Martin Saint Louis,

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Speaker 2: and Manon raym Alight.

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Speaker 6: They don't still play with him, do they?

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Speaker 2: They don't know.

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Speaker 5: Those are the only guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: So congrats to them. Back to back jacks for the lightning.

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Speaker 2: They say lightning never strikes twice. Put it on a

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Speaker 2: headline rovella You kidding me? Anyways? Our tweet of the

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Speaker 2: night comes from Drew Ham, Jose Calderon's favorite tweeter who

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Speaker 2: cares about the tweet. Look at this guy's hat. People

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Speaker 2: sell them rating in the streets. Last night, this guy

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Speaker 2: shows up on an NBC news this channel wearing a

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Speaker 2: hat that just simply says, show me that butthole, show

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Speaker 2: me that five is what it should say for a

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Speaker 2: hockey fan out there. I don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what to add, guys. This guy was wearing a pretty

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Speaker 2: fund and I saw it when I was looking through

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Speaker 2: some tweets and it made me laugh. I sent it

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Speaker 2: to JD. He hit me with an lo O L.

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Speaker 2: That's all we needed for a tweet of that night.

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Speaker 2: My second part of the tweet, though, I gotta ask,

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Speaker 2: can you name a single player on the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: one Tampa Bay Lightning.

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Speaker 5: There's a Nikita.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one. Nikita.

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Speaker 5: And I only know that because I think he was

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Speaker 5: talking some ship to the Canadians because they like celebrated

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Speaker 5: their game. What four victory down, three to zero? I think.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if I have that right. I

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Speaker 5: don't even know if it.

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Speaker 2: Was his name. You nail, You nailed his first name immediately.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Oh that's huge to me.

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Speaker 2: That was like a one timer another hockey term for it,

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Speaker 2: right there? Any other's any other names out there? No? No, wait,

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Speaker 2: is he one of their goalies?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no no. The only name I recognized when I

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Speaker 2: was scrolling through on hockey Dash Arearence dot com. Great name,

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Speaker 2: great American player, Pat Maroon. Just a cool name, Pat Maroon.

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Speaker 2: He's on the team, on the team, well he's on

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Speaker 2: the ros.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't actually know if he's on the team. Big

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Speaker 2: Pat Maroon fan. But I'm also a big fan of

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Speaker 2: that guy's hat. Let's see that hat one last time,

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Speaker 2: just real quick. Let's see this guy's hat.

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Speaker 5: Somebody I saw tweet about this hat that this guy

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Speaker 5: is Tampa's number one accountant. Why that made me laugh

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Speaker 5: so hard?

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Speaker 1: How did it go?

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Speaker 5: Celebrity hot shove me? That butthole looks like a Marquis

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Speaker 5: you know, like a movie. Yeah, show me that butthole

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Speaker 5: game show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's gonna be odd. I

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Speaker 5: think you should leave season three. I think congrats to

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Speaker 5: the Tampa Bay Lightning back to back.

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Speaker 2: That's you.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even know that. Didn't know that, so can they?

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Speaker 5: Threepet You think how's is a squad coming back? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was checking out the salaries pages on Hockey hype

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Speaker 2: dot com and I see they They got koocher Off

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Speaker 2: and Maroon are both coming back next season, So lightning

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Speaker 2: might strikes.

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Speaker 5: The rice thrice hold on, I have. Let's call it

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Speaker 5: there and it with some hockey talk. Thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for joining us. Guys, let's hear if you agree

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Speaker 5: or disagree with Leeley's twelve I guess is what we

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Speaker 5: got to there before we started doing the hoodie, I

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Speaker 5: got twelve automatic additions to what we expect to be

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Speaker 5: the seventy five Greatest Players in NBA History list. Hopefully

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Speaker 5: again it comes out in the summer early next season

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Speaker 5: or maybe around the All Star break. We got the

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Speaker 5: seventy fifth anniversary season, so you'd expect we're getting that.

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Speaker 5: But let's hear who you agree or disagree with from

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Speaker 5: his list in the comments below this video. Send in

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Speaker 5: Athletic dot com for our next beach step in podcast.

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Speaker 5: Get your merch your No Dunks merch over at no

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Speaker 5: dunks dot com. And yeah, we'll be back tomorrow to

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Speaker 5: break down Game two of the NBA Finals in detail

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Speaker 5: live here on YouTube at ten am Eastern and then

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Speaker 5: of course a little bit later as soon as JD

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Speaker 5: can turn it around and get it up in your

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Speaker 5: podcast feeds. Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 7: And remember this is the time of year where we

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Speaker 7: start googling hockey players and I think we have to

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Speaker 7: renounce our Canadian citizenship.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Stampcos leading.

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Speaker 7: The Tampa Bay Lightning, we should know that legend Steven

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Speaker 7: Stampcos Is he called.

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Speaker 1: Them Steve.

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Speaker 5: Well? Is he brothers with John.

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Speaker 1: John Cochran? What was this? What was John Stamos's other

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Speaker 1: name in the show? Is Cochrane?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: Jesse cuts Upolis.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Jesse, I think John Cochrane, Johnny and Jesse pass

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Speaker 7: me some Oy Coast.

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Speaker 5: People every day.

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Speaker 3: Happy that You're the fun of play for. It's happened already,

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be good Me,