1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: Take your time, no rush, We're here till okay. Um. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence was probably the soul of the defense. Um, 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: he was the most Um. I think the most talented 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: guy gets to run and path Um. So him not 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: being there um just made a beef of the line 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: that wasn't very good even worse. Um. And you know 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: there's there's no upside um this this defense. The coordinator going, hey, 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for him, But so what you're saying 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: that even even with the young guys we have, which 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: they are not experienced that you know, the partions of 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: the world the Bohanna's the defense Laman, is this some growth? 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: Fir shot me? You got to give these young guys 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: a chance. Uh. Hey, this is the way they do now, Huh. 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: It's just like college. They bring you in, throw you 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: out there. They don't teach them nothing. They don't have 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: time to. They don't have time to where they out 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: that hour and a half two hours, they don't have 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: time to all. They go out there, hit a couple 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: of drill, get hand placement. They don't teach any technique. 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: So how's that guy gonna get better? Okay, Well, walk 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: us through that. Charles and We know it's a driven generation. 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: We know it's but when you went to the forty 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: nine ers, man, when they brought you in, they had 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: a plan for you. Man, Man, how did that plan go? 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: Because you played as a young player. I played because 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm a dog. You know. Hey, I went out there 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: and I kicked everybody ass that was in front of me, 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: and I took my job. Okay, okay. You know what 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: I learned was take it if you want to take it. 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: That's what I learned. And I learned that at a 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: young age when my dad had told me, boy, if 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: you want to go, take it, and and they you 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: you kind of in the same boat. You had to 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: you had to take it too, right, Yeah, free agent. 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: But I was fortunate enough to have this type of 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: guy around me. I don't care what nobody say. Yeah, 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: you got to have a stern head coach. You gotta 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: have a discipline head coach. But your players, you know, 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: And I don't want to get into the glory days 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. That's long gone. But when you when 41 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: you have Charles Haley, Tony Tolber, you have Mike Irvy, 42 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: you have Troygnant. Guys like that, they set the culture 43 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: for us, whinning was the only thing that matter when 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: he believe it or not. A lot of people where 45 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: they got rid of them from San Francisco. Well, Coach Johnson, 46 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: I got cut. Yeah, whatever it was. Coach Johnson called 47 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: some of his his guys saying, what do you think 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: about Charles Haley? Do he care about winning? And they said, 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: that's the only thing he cares about. You even have 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: preached to me how you aren't running a lot and 51 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: like how to hurt you with running a lot? Left 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: the team because all you cared about was winning. Players 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: set culture, players show you what to do with our gey. Example, 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: when y'alls first came to the Dallars Cowboys, how he 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: finished cussing all of us out, scouting each one of 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: us and telling us our weaknesses and how good how 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: bad we were. Then he got down to brass Saxon. 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: He pulled me to the side. He said, Nate, you're 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: not the same guy in the second half of the 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: season that we see in the first half of the season. 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: He said, you need a condition more. You need to 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: continue your condition. Remember for a whole year, how we 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: worked out after practice. He would let he would allow 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: me to go home for like an hour and a half. 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: I had to come back and get on the Stepmaster. 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: The steps Stepper had to do different things with him 67 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: and Tony Tober. And that's when I mean my first 68 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and I went like four straight, five straight, 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, to the Pro Bowl because this guy would 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: not this guy would not let let us lose. What 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: do you mean, hang on? He would allow you to go? Yeah, 72 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: what what do you mean? He would allow you to 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: go because if once you were grown man, it didn't 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: work back then. Like that's what I try to tell people. 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: It's a different see. See a lot of people say dogs, 76 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: he's a dog, Okay, really can this dog lead a pack? 77 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Can this dog be a wolf? He was a wolf. 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: My girl was a wolf. And he led a pack. 79 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: And when he said let's go over here and eat 80 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: over here, let's hunt over there, you did it. Because 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: these dudes were going to the Pro Bowl. They're going 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: to All Pro This dude was Super Bowl Winner. So 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: who I'm gonna listen to. I'm gonna go hold to 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: my wife and said, baby, I'm cut because I didn't 85 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: listen to Charles. I'm gonna go home and take a 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: nice call, say that I listen to. You know what 87 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's how it was. We need to 88 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: um um winning. It's about loving guys learning to play together. Yes, 89 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: um if Nate said, somebody has to set a standard, 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: and then somebody got to hold people accountable. Now, like 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: I said, I played her, I played the injury. I 92 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: told them I'm the alpha dog. I would leave no 93 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: matter what. And so my words mean something. So um, 94 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: I choose my words wisely. And as Nate said, Hey, 95 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Nate helped set a standard because after practice I would 96 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: work out than me and Nate a run. It was 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: more of a bonding me. Hey, me and Nate. We 98 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: went at it in the locker room twenty four seven. 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: He was a joy, I mean man, absolutely joy to 100 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: be around. And you know what, Nate was never afraid. 101 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: He's a chal Um, this guy's doing us. Could you 102 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: could you demonstrate right? I don't get there and do 103 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: it over and over for him? You know? So he 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: could set out, Hey, I couldn't do it. I wanted it. 105 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: I wanted a cup of time. Let him do it. 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: But then I said, if I let him do it 107 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: one time, he gonna think he could do it every time. 108 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: You know the thing, the thing, Jenny, where are you at? 109 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 1: When I first got to the Cowboys. When I first 110 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: got to the Cowboys, we were on a down slide 111 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: and in a terrible way. Then Coach Johnson came in. 112 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: He kind of leveled it out. Our offense was coming 113 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: together and we had young defensive players like now. But 114 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: they I'm telling you two people came to me and 115 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: he asked me about the tall dude Sean and Houston. 116 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: You remember that big tall he's up. I think it's 117 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: an African brother native of Africa. And uh. He asked me, 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: Coach Johnson and mister Jones, say, what do you think 119 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: about Charles Hayley or what do you think about this 120 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: dude Sean that played for Houston Defenson man, I said, 121 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: hands down, I said, I don't fish Sean. I beat 122 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: him up. But Charles, Charles not only I mean I've 123 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: seen Charles do a t end when the income first 124 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: and the guard and the tackle. I saw him do 125 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: that for one of his teammates on me. You know, 126 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: I was handling that big dude for the forty nine, 127 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: but Charles hit me rather out in the blindside. This 128 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: dude come around and got a second. I couldn't the 129 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: rest of the game, y'all talking all but that's sacrifice, 130 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: that's sacrifice. And what I'm saying is he was not 131 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: only a great Hall of Famer, but he sacrificed for 132 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: his teammates. And and and I don't want to say that. 133 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: These guys don't know that, but you know they're not 134 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: sacrificing enough, you know, for their teams. Well, Um, the 135 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: problem with these guys are, you know, practice start at twelve, 136 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: They out there at eleven, They get there at eleven 137 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: fifty five? How do you work on your skill set? 138 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: How do you how do you do anything? I don't understand. 139 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand the group of athletes. Um, they don't. 140 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: You know, they don't even talk to each other. It's 141 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: about me, when it's gonna be about when it's gonna 142 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: be about us. You know, the fans, you know, Um, 143 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: so I owed the fans from my job. Those guys 144 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: came to every game, no matter whre way or here, 145 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: and we had home field advantage. Hey, and I appreciated that, 146 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: you know at the forty nine is you know, um, 147 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: it's just like a job. You don't they don't, they 148 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: don't fire you, you fire yourself. So I fired myself 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: from the forty nine ers. Um and that made me mad. 150 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: So um um. So I came here and um, you know, um, 151 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Jerry told me he had my back. So he gave 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: me the confidence that I could come out and beat me. 153 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: And I think without that, I don't know if I 154 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: would have um in time, I probably would have turned 155 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: into me. I think I probably been me regardless of it. 156 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: I think so too. I think so. I think so too. Uh, 157 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: tell you what, let's take our first break when we 158 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: come back. One thing that Nate. When Nate talks about you, 159 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: there's a few things he says. A couple of them 160 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: I can't say on the air. A couple of them 161 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: I can. One is you're a leader. You're you're one 162 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: of the smartest football minds he's ever met. I want 163 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: to talk about leadership. Where did you learn leadership from? 164 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: Is it something you developed into Because we talk about 165 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: leadership a lot about this team and who are your 166 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: leaders and how did they get there and and changing 167 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: the culture and all that. I want to know, how 168 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: did you learn to be a leader? Did you just 169 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: morph into that? We'll talk about that. We'll talk about 170 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: dak his performance and I will you guys are pretty 171 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: familiar with the with the fellow named Jimmy Johnson. I 172 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: want to get into uh, he's going into the Hall 173 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: of Fame this year. I want to win will be 174 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: he'll be getting his ring. We just found out and 175 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: gets in the Philadelphia game. So I want to hear 176 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: some some Jimmy Johnson stories and what it was like 177 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: I got to play for Jimmy. Let's do that when 178 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: we come back. You're listening to cross talking with Dallas 179 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys Radio Network. Will be right back. I love you, guys. 180 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: I've been picking on you since the day I came. 181 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: You have barefoot walking through the building back when I 182 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: worked in the merchandise to park in your socks. Yep, 183 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: you got shoes on the night. N The woman that 184 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: runs this place told me I got to push shoes. 185 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: Stacy Bowers, by the way, it takes great care of 186 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: us every every Yeah, she told me I had to 187 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: put shoes on. She told me I couldn't wear shorts. Hey. 188 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: She liked to tell people at least you, at least 189 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: you got one of them, right, you got shoes on? Yeah? 190 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: But j Jerry Jared told me that I could wear 191 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: what I want. Okay, Well and he said that, Jared, No, 192 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: he didn't. We can tell about the shirt. I'm gonna 193 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: just tell you Jerry shouldn't have said it. I heard 194 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: it through the easier and I'm gonna do what I 195 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: want to do now. So it's out of your hands. 196 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: The baby, I'm sorry. Jerry owns this show. Yeah, you 197 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: run it, but Jerry owned it. He told me I 198 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: can be the boss. Yeah. Speaking of being a boss, charge, 199 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: one thing that is always said about you is how 200 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: great of a leader you were. And a lot of 201 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: people on that those super Bowl teams credit you with 202 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: turning this team around and credit you with helping them 203 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: win those Super Bowls. Leader, that's what you hear synonymous 204 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: with your name. Where did you learn to be a leader? 205 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: Was it something you just kind of was natural to you? 206 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: Did you look? Did you learn that from somebody else? 207 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: How did how did you become such a leader on 208 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: the team? Um? I you know, growing up, I was 209 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: always um, belittle, I was always um. I never measured up. 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: And you know, one day I asked God to give 211 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: me something to be good at and he gave me 212 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: six inches. So so after that point, you know what 213 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Hey, And you know in that vision he said, hey, 214 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: stand so And from that's that point on, I stood, 215 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: and I bought these things. Up. From that point on, 216 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: I was my own man. And and I just think 217 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: that leadership is involved form and trust, and as I said, 218 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: you have to be a man of your word. If 219 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: you say you're gonna do something, you have to do it. 220 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: That's what I believe. The other thing about leadership is 221 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: is details. You know, I get down to the smaller details. 222 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: I studied the film. I teach him how to set 223 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: it the film, and then I'll take guys. I teach 224 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: him everything I know because I'm not afraid of my 225 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: skill set. I teach him everything I know because within 226 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: doing that, it makes smeeth better. So those are the 227 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: sacrifices you make. And you know, um, like Leon, when 228 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: I got here with David said Leon couldn't play or whatever. 229 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: We worked a few times. Man, Hey, if he didn't 230 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: have an issue, he'd be in the Hall of Fame 231 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: with me. Hey, that's the type of player he was. 232 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's like I say, um um, 233 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: I was. I was in control. So when I say 234 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: he do. And when I say he did, you know 235 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: and uh so and and that's the way it has 236 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: to be. If somebody got it, it can It can't 237 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: be five alpha dogs. It has to be one alpha 238 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: dog leading the pack, and then everybody else got to 239 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: fall in line. What made you nate? What made what 240 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: made Charles a leader to you? What made you want 241 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: to follow him? What made you want to work out 242 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: with him and do the extra work? Just the things 243 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: that he had accomplished? Uh uh? Then he was just 244 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: he was. It was real. You know, he didn't come 245 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: into our locker room. You know a lot. When you 246 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: signed with the Cowboys, that's already a brand, that's already 247 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: something established. But Charles back then, no brand, some more 248 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: money than you can count on. Let me, let me finish. 249 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: He was about ready to go broke, let me finish. 250 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: Well at that time, we wasn't that brand, We wasn't 251 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: that powerhouse. But Charles was Charles coming from the forty 252 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: nine is that won a super Bowl? That did what 253 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: he did, that played and let me see your super 254 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Bowl ring? How the hell let's win one? You know? 255 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying those are the things like when 256 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: you're asking that that's he said that twenty five thirty 257 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: years ago. He's saying it down today. Why would you 258 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: want to look at my super Bowl and we can 259 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: go win one and so? And then I think I 260 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: made Troy man because I told Troy he won't know 261 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Joe Montana went back and you know that little three 262 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: ball thing, he went back and he threw it hit 263 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: the middle one. I can't hell anybody hit um. I 264 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: think anybody getting lightning. Once he goes back again, throwing 265 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: down the shut up, I'm gonna tell you something. But 266 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: he told Troy that that was a nice day. That 267 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: was silence. That was silence, you know. But the thing 268 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: about it is he had a way of saying it. 269 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: And it may sound ugly, but if you're looking at him, 270 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: he challenging you. He want to see who you are. 271 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: And if you curl up on him, he ain't got 272 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: nothing else for you. But if you stand tall and 273 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: even you just don't even know what you're mumbling, and 274 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: try to say something, he's gonna back up just a 275 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: little bit. So but what what always feeds me? And 276 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: like I said, when he first got here, we didn't 277 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: have that brand that coachm Andrew and text Tram and 278 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: all of them belt they was trying to rebuild it, 279 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: and he helped rebuild that. Man, what you go ahead? 280 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Well you know um that I forgot what I was 281 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: kind to say. All right, I'll help y'all start a 282 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: new topic talking about leadership. You've been around this team, Yeah, 283 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: you work with these guys, you've been out there. You 284 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: you hear that about Dak. You hear that he's a leader. 285 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: What have you seen in Dak in practice, behind the 286 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: scenes that that. Do you think he's a leader? Do 287 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: you think he's the leader of this team? Is he 288 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: what they need? Hey, Troy Hagen wont no leader? When 289 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: the Troy getting people's faith. Troy did his job and 290 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: make God um do that job by just right. And 291 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: and um, if you think, um Dak can go out 292 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: there and save all these guys, he can't. You know. 293 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's a different game today, they're not. 294 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: We were out there for three hours and then Jimmy 295 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: get pissed and started all over again. We off there 296 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: six now, you know, and you remember that Nate, Wow, 297 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: I think yeah, I pulled a hamstring. Yeah, think about it? 298 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Is ah, you know, and like I said, you know, 299 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: shouting a lot. We do shows together and I and 300 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: I try out to be critical. That is not my thing. 301 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: I try to always spend a positive light. We're part 302 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: of this big organization. But the bottom line is this 303 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: right here. You have to have it right if you 304 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: have to have it right in practice. And you heard 305 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: me say the day I say, the Rams do the 306 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: same thing that Cowboys do. They don't play players in preseason, 307 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: but in training camp they have to practice. They coach 308 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: require we got the practice and we got to have 309 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: a temple. Well that is what we're missing. We give 310 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: guys days all from practice. Don't do that. You have 311 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: to practice. If you're not gonna play in the preseason game, 312 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: you got to have a high tempo. And it started 313 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: out that way. Then when Dak's shoulder, then the next guy, 314 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: then the next guy. You can't have that. That's UM. 315 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: When I was put the forty nine, we never put 316 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: paths on, so people said, that's excuse you know that. Um. 317 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, if you want a team to be smarter, 318 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: I would not challenge guys to be tougher. I would 319 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: challenge guys to be smarter. If you want these young 320 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: guys to produce, teach them in the classroom, let them 321 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: see what their opponent's gonna do to them, and so 322 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: they could see what not to let them do and 323 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: how to attack their weaknesses instead of running down their strengths. 324 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: So that's one of the biggest things that um that 325 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: I like doing was I take it as a chess match. 326 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: And the other thing that m kind of made me 327 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: mad about what y'all talking about. Um, I guess y'all 328 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: say dfer the line I played offense because I was 329 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: always attacking. Hey, standing steel was not an option. I 330 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: was always attacking. Standing steel is not a option, and 331 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: standing still on this show is not an option either, 332 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: because we have to take another break. But when we 333 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: come back, Oh, we're my check, we'll get there. You 334 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: gotta finish the show, because I tell you, if we 335 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: if we give you the check in the middle of 336 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: the show, you're gone. I were here, bro, I thought that. 337 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: So we're gonna take another break when we come back. 338 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: Let's get into a little Jimmy Johnson told yeahs going 339 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. Let's let's talk a little 340 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson. Oh, how I used to mess up his hair? 341 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Definitely I told him at the Hall of Fame he 342 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: don't talk about mouths called mess his hair up? Did 343 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: you mess his hair up? Now? All right? Coming up 344 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: next from Cowboys Club, Jimmy Johnson Talk. When we come back. 345 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cowboys Cross Talk on the Dallas Cowboys 346 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Radio Network. Boys Cross Talk Check broadcasting live from the 347 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Welcome back to 348 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys Cross Talk. Shannon Gross, Nate Newton, and our guest 349 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: of honor charl Haley on the show. Charles. That's WBC 350 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: Mortgage joined the more than one hundred and twenty thousand 351 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: customers that we've helped to find their happier way home 352 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: as it s WBC mortgage dot Com. To find a 353 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: pro shit, I might have to call him about refinancing. Yeah, 354 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, brother, gotta find some money. I'm aware, do it? 355 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: Do it all right? Jimmy Johnson talk. Oh Jimmie, where 356 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: do you want to start? I mean there's so many places. 357 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: How about the six cans of hairsprayed that he had 358 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: in that coaches locker room. He would go out there 359 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: for warm up and see if it blew a little bit, 360 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: and then come against bright moth and then he had 361 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: to jail too. I don't know what. I don't know 362 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: what was going on all right, now he doesn't do it, 363 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He got no his hair. He got people 364 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: to do it for him. Now he's on, he's on, 365 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: he's on TV. Man, Man, don't hate. I'm not hating. 366 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: I'm more hating Nate. Tell me what was Charles's relationship 367 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: like with with Jimmy love hate man. I mean one 368 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: minute they speaking woman into the U and then the 369 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: next minute they both want them looked stared at each other. 370 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: I mean it used to be ugly. We didn't know 371 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: how to but them two came into the room together. 372 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: We had to always wait, okay, let's see how these 373 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: two gonna act to day before we started doing we 374 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: gotta do two alpha dogs. And yeah, man, it was 375 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: you know what, it was funny man that um um, 376 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: you know the coaches instead of telling me stuff, they 377 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: would go tell Jimmy and then Jimmy gotta come tell 378 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: me what they say. And then Jimmy walked up to 379 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: me and go like chall, you know, I didn't heard 380 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: the probably did hear him though, but I didn't act 381 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: like I heard. And so I kept walking and he 382 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: goes chall So then out of respect, I turn and 383 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: look and he goes Charles. The coaches say, you don't 384 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: run the defense um the right way, but you make plays. 385 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: I ain't that what the hell you brought me here for? 386 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: And I lost the port Dog. I want what's that part? 387 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: To get to the part? I didn't understand the conversation, 388 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: So you know, I got I got pissed because I 389 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: didn't understand the conversation. So you know, so then that 390 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: kind of see, the coaches messed up our relationship because 391 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: they were cowards. They were cowards to come to me 392 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: and tell me what they had. I would walk up 393 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: to them and tell them they're idiots. Why didn't they 394 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: just say, Charles, you know what, I'm not an idiot. 395 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: Iy Okay, I'm gonna tell you the biggest one. We 396 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: I think we won a game in Minnesota, the old Field, 397 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: the Metro Dog, and and uh it was we beat 398 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: them and over time on overs over time when we 399 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: beat them, right, and so we out up talking to 400 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: all the guys, John rounding all these guys and Coleman 401 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: and all, and all of a sudden, I'm hanging with 402 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: Charles I'm like, man, we're taking our time, but I'm 403 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: seeing all the coaches like, come on in and look them, Arry, 404 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: hurry up. But I'm rolling with y'all. I'm meeting everybody. 405 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: We walked in that locker room and Jimmy said something 406 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: looked at Yaws in the wrong way, and Charles came 407 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: a glue. The next thing I know, it goes back 408 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: into this little this little room, and all years I 409 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: locked that dope, baby, I locked that damn dope. And 410 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: you know what happened. He turned around and saw me, 411 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: he said. Alba said, I couldn't understand talk about Eagles? 412 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: What what did it mean? Did you guys? When coach 413 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Johnson finally got into the Hall of Fame? Play was great? Yeah, 414 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: it was. He deserved it. Um. You know, um he's 415 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: done it all national championships and um um and in 416 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: college and then um, you know, taking the team to 417 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: two super Bowls and you know, you never know. Feter 418 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: him and Jimmy didn't have um Jerry had that fact, 419 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: what what would have happened? I know I wouldn't have 420 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: been here. Yeah, I don't think he would have. Um, 421 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: I think he would have. I think he would have 422 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: had enough of Charles Haley. So UM, but I'm I'm. 423 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: All I can say is that I'm happy I got 424 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: a chance to, um come talk to him. Um. UM 425 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: a few years back, I apologize to him for my 426 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: actions because, UM, I realized we had the same goal. 427 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, it was just um two alpha dogs trying 428 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: to you know, fight over one bone. And he had 429 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: his way as a head coach. I had my way 430 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: as a as a as a defensive, as a player. 431 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: But you know, my theory always been arn shopping iron 432 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: because all to do is coaches call a play, we 433 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: gotta make it work. So I didn't. I didn't value 434 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: that part of the deal. So UM that was my fault. 435 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: And UM. And so I got a chance to apologize 436 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: to him for my verbage. UM and and how I 437 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: didn't respect him at times and UM because I am really, 438 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: um really UM saddened that I couldn't see that. Um. 439 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: You know when I was playing on a good note. Um, 440 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about it now. This is a good note. UM. 441 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: My foundation. We're doing a um we're doing a dinner 442 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: party here at the Star, um across the street, and 443 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: um it's and a lot of Hall of Famers coming 444 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: in towns and UM, we still have a couple of 445 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: tables and you can go to tackle themar dot com 446 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: to UM, but it's on a Monday. Monday is in 447 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: showtime on Monday. Then we got a golf tournament the 448 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: day after on the twenty on the twenty first. So UM. 449 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: One of the big things here is we have auction 450 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: online and we got UM helmets signed by all the 451 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers UM this year and the years from 452 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: I got UM a lot of my personal stuff up 453 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: for the auction to raise money because it's hard to 454 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: raise money for black and brown kids. You know what 455 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's hard. Hey, I'm out that beet Neighbory 456 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Tree and I still can't give him the shape. Let 457 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: me tell you something, man, and then think about it. 458 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: You know I'll be there, man. It's just if you 459 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: all can go out on his on his line on 460 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: his dot com. What is it, brother, tackle tomorrow dot com, 461 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: Tackle tomorrow dot com. Please go out there because he 462 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: invited me. And I'll be like, the only reason I'm 463 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: going out because him, Because all the Hall of Famer's 464 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: gonna be there, and so is. These guys be feeling 465 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: good and you making get a little something. So think 466 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: about it. When you speaking of Hall of Fame, Charles, 467 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: was it important for you to go into the Hall 468 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: of Fame? Um? What that means to you? I? You 469 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: know what. It pissed me off because um, nobody's did 470 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: what I've done. But yet um the media because I 471 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: was um um um anti media or sometime hostile, so 472 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: they want to hold that as sense to me. But 473 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: they didn't look at my body of work. You know. Um, 474 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: I watched film and um they doubled trip of team 475 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: me and and UM, a lot of these great players 476 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: that go on the Hall of Fame, they single block them. 477 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: So UM, you know, they knew I could take over 478 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: the game. But yet UM, I didn't get my respect. 479 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: But when they gave me that gold jacket, I said, damn, 480 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: I said, you can't take it back now. And every 481 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: time I go there and I let them know, I 482 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: walk up there with short song hey, with no shirt, 483 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: with that gold jacket on, and I tell them, I said, 484 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: if you don't like what I'm doing, I said, hey me, 485 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: pay me. I put a shirt on. What Nate you 486 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: always talk about, you know, you talked about on our 487 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: show numerous times and with me and you just talking personally. 488 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: What made Charles such a smart football player? I don't know, 489 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: because I went to a white school, y'all. Stop See 490 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: Nate didn't go down the white school, so he don't know. 491 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: Stop stop look at Charles. What says he's smart? Hey, 492 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: my head is chaking like a bullet because I'm a 493 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: big shot baggy. Come on there, come on, work nothing 494 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: about this body even when he was look at that 495 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: bar when sid him you know what, you know we 496 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: played when we played let me tell you something. So 497 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: Nate was a big ass vending machine. So you walk by, 498 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: you kick him in the ass, pop corner, drop by 499 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: fried chicken, fried chicken, Coca cola. I read all I 500 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: with that pop out. But now he's that he that 501 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: visor machine. O. Hey, but if I'm not new sexy fat, yeah, yeah, 502 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: because you know what, I got a lot to the 503 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: whole long too. Baby, don't hate me, but hey, check 504 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: out all these guys who want to work all they 505 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: all skinny and stuff dolphin, they're going like they see 506 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: it all. Damn. Mean that's a mystery. Hey, No, what 507 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: you know that that intelligence thing? You you don't know 508 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: who has it and who who. But when you when 509 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: you look at Charles and they you know, I'm like, Charles, okay. 510 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes Charles would rush and he would not come off 511 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: the ball fast. He would just come off and he'll 512 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: be just bobbing. I'm like, what are you looking at 513 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: your feet? He's I'm waiting for you to make a 514 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: mistake with your feet, and once you make that mistake, 515 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm taking advantage of. And I'm like, oh no, no, 516 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to pass blocking and he does the 517 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: same thing but faster, and I made the wrong move. 518 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: He was gone. And he did this for every guy. 519 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: He knew every guy. And when he looking at film, 520 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: he's looking at certain pass rush situations down the distance. 521 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: What this guy like? What you? And I don't know 522 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: who helped him in that, but he had it all man. 523 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: That The thing is, everybody got tendencies, right, So um 524 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, that first ten plays, they probably do something different. 525 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: But the moment, the moment of Dallas Cowboys score, they 526 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna put fifty on them, they go back to 527 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: their regular tendencies, right, So then you already got it down. 528 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: And then the offensive linement. I didn't practice much because 529 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, I was hurt and um, but I had 530 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: a skill set, so all I had to weigh this. 531 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: When I chum off the line, where's where is it 532 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: shoulder here or his foot or does his foot turn? 533 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: So I didn't know just by that position of his 534 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: body where they're attack him. So um, that was the 535 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: key for me. The problem was to start to being 536 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: that back, that back. But the thing was when the 537 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: back hurt punched me. I always called a me call, 538 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: where I go down to hit that guard. I put 539 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: him right there they I make him go. Yeah. Yeah, 540 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: that's what happened to me when he got to do 541 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: the sack for the forty nine ers. Can't you think 542 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: of the big guy an hour handling this big dudey 543 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: chaw coming. I like the ear hole. Hey, I don't 544 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: want to sack. I could just walk up get a sack, 545 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: but I want to punish him. Well, let's take our 546 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: last break, your last break. It's our last break, and 547 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: then you get your check. Man. You can eat man. 548 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: When you're gonna take that mask off, it ain't Halloween. 549 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah goodness. You know what. When we come back, we 550 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: gotta talk a little bit about there's a game Sunday 551 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: A little bit about Cowboys Chargers in LA. They're going 552 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: to LA on Saturday and they're playing on Sunday, so 553 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about that one. You're listening 554 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys Crawl Talk on the Dallas Cowboys Baby 555 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk broadcasting live from the 556 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Welcome back to 557 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: the show, Shannon Gross, Nate Newton, our guest of honor 558 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Charles Haley. Heading into our last segment of the show. Hey, 559 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: I like to put you world can we dog? I 560 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: love it? The sure Yeah, somebody picked that off for you. 561 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: You can do the granimals grannimals? Remember those where did 562 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: that where you know you match the animals? Yeah, you 563 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: matched all the animals like win and all of that. 564 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: You have one of the set with it with signs 565 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: on it. Oh, I'm confusing. Okay, we'll talk after the show. Okay, 566 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: all right, last segment. We can't do a show without 567 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: talking a little bit about the current Dallas Cowboys heading 568 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: into LA to play the Chargers. They looked pretty good 569 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: last week. Even through that, they looked pretty good. The 570 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys looked pretty good, but they lost as Charles pointed 571 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: out the beginning of the show, So we're not gonna 572 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: get intomorrow victories and all that, because I know how 573 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: much you love those, Nate. But hey, did we have 574 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: corners corner cornerbacks? Yeah? Did we have those? We did 575 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: on the field, we had those, Yes, we did. Yeah. Yeah, 576 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: Dicks played good against Evans. Brown kind of struggled to 577 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: live against Antonio Brown. He so, why did Otonio Brown 578 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: catch all those balls? Who was that on? That was 579 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: on Anthony Brown? Oh? Okay, yeah that was last week, Charles. 580 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about and Tom Brady couldn't run, could he? 581 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: What's Tom Braden on? Mobile? Quarterback? Yeah, that's what the 582 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: young guys. Mobile? Was he mobile? This quarterback? This week? Mobile? Yeah, 583 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: he's a living mobile. Yeah, a little bit more mobile. Yeah. Yeah. 584 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: Hyper got an arm too, man, he got some touch. 585 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: He's nice. Josh Hyper is nice. That's what I'm thinking. 586 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: And um, what not Josh Hyper? What is I don't know? 587 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: You don't even know you're a quarterback man? Yeah? What's 588 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: his name? Justin Herbert? Justin Herbert? Okay, thank you. I 589 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: don't know why I went to Josh. You got that's 590 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: why you're the smart guy. Man. Yeah, I know that's 591 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: why you're the smart guy. How important is it to 592 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: get Zeke involved this week? Um? If they're gonna have 593 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: been a chance to win it, that got control the clock. Um. 594 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: The best offense is the best hey, the best offense 595 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: is the best defense. Because you are you're on the field, 596 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: you keep your defense off, you keep him um um 597 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: you know rested. But if it if it's like a 598 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: scoring frenzy, because our defense is not deep at all. 599 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: They ain't deep when they got the first team out there, 600 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: so you know what happens when now where they got 601 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: to go to the second team, I'll be um, I'll 602 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: be amazed and um um at least week got um 603 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: um one good linebacker um out there playing huh Parsons. Yeah, 604 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: what did you see how the Parsons this last game? 605 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: I saw it all. He can do it all. Man, Hey, 606 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: the real dam he got a little little dog to him. 607 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: He's a real deal thing. Yeah I think so. But 608 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: you know what, that's one game. You know, I think 609 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: you gotta put a um, put a string of game 610 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: together and have some seasons together in order for you 611 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: get a um a good look at um his skill 612 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: set because we don't have a bunch of one hit 613 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: wonders we have with Nate. What are your keys to 614 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: this game? Offensive side? Just to learn it isn't justin 615 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: Herbert and not Josh. I don't even know where that 616 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: came from from. No, normally want to talk black school. 617 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: I knew normally you just you just butcher the names. 618 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: This is when you just talk about the rod. Yeah, yeah, 619 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: you butcher you butcher names. Yeah badly. Yeah, I just 620 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: say I don't know it. Yeah see you know, yeah, 621 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: because he got over bit. But anyway, what comeback? Don't 622 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: call him the comeback? Been here for you? What do 623 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: you think, Charles? What does these cowboys have to do 624 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: to be into this game? Man? Besides control the clock? Um, 625 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna be it. Um. I think that quarterback is 626 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: really good. He's mobile. Um, they're not supplanted. Um, Randy 627 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: Gregor jump inside in a minute. Hey, and he gets 628 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: to the ass. You know, Hey, that's that's what destroys 629 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: the team. When the quarterback gets I'll run the edge 630 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: and deepath the line. He got a chase behind him. 631 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: Your legs gone. So um. I think that beefa the 632 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: line does not um um San Diegos defa the line. 633 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: It doesn't scare me. I think they should be able 634 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: to run the ball. Um. You know the thing that 635 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: pissed me off is um is launcel Um ladell Um 636 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: get suspended. We finally get him back on the field, 637 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: and now he's suspended. You know, it's just like the cow. 638 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: It's just bad to bad. You know, it's always going 639 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: worse and worse. It's never getting better and better and better. 640 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: So how can they put games together when they never 641 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: got that team together? You know? Hey, they said they 642 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: always told me his coach is only as good as 643 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: his players, and that's any coach. Nate, How how concerned 644 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: should fans be about the offensive line? You getting Zach 645 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: Martin back lys outa coach, Filman has done a nice job. 646 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: And in my question here and I know you asked 647 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: me a question, but what do you think about the 648 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: young tern Terren? Still? What is it? Is it hope 649 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: for this young guy that played a fourteen games last 650 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: year of Texas? Yeah, seventies and seventy nine. Terrence can 651 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 1: tell you yeah, man, he garbage. Wow, man, he ain't 652 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: blocked nobody yet and he's been trying for um all 653 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: last year. He ain't blocking them by he he doesn't, 654 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't punch. I don't know what he does. I 655 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: know one thing, black better be looking black like the Lord. 656 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: Lord please, Lord, so so so you Wow. Well, I'm 657 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: gonna tell you the report that we got during training 658 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: campus that he reshaped the body. He wasn't he reshaped 659 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: his body. How do you reshape the body? You know, 660 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: get a little more mask muscle, mask a little You 661 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: don't tell me a guy that's soft he put on 662 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: chess muscle that's gonna make him hard. I'm just I'm 663 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: just saying what they're saying. I'm just saying what they saying. Charles, 664 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm the stressed coaches, the coaching kitten. You took a 665 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: kidden and reshaped the kid and muscle. Now you're telling 666 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: me he's a dog. He's like your dad. You should. 667 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: He's not as sorry as Charles sales people because you 668 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: because I didn't say he was sorry. What did you say? 669 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: I'd just said he can't block nobody because you you 670 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: you weren't real high last year's right, But no, I 671 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: wasn't real high in at the beginning of the year, 672 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't like how the coach. You don't understanding 673 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: is you're moving him from the left side where athletic 674 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: guys are right now, you're moving them to the right 675 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: side where days are bigs, wrong guys. Okay, if he 676 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: couldn't do nothing with those guys over there, what you 677 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: think gonna happen with hey, So you don't they ever 678 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: put that on? They put that hammet right there. You 679 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: don't think of either year would help this kid. You 680 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: don't think what can't change You can't change it, guy man. Okay, 681 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: So if you can't change a guy, what what's your 682 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: game plan? If you've got a kind of tight end, Yeah, 683 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: make that, make that deeper than men, get out wider. 684 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: So you got to give him some help. Yeah, how 685 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: does that? And that help has to come early in 686 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: the game. That help can't come after the guy gets sad. 687 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 1: So if you're if you're helping with the tight end 688 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: and a running back, you're not. You don't have to. 689 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: You know what you wanta understand is you're not helping. 690 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: All you do is you take that tight end and 691 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: flex him out a little bit, so now that end 692 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: won't come up. He can't come up to feel hard 693 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: because he don't know whether he getting cracking down on 694 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: or not. So he gonna stand up and then it's easier. 695 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: So that's all I got place with its body places. Okay, 696 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: don't you don't have to attack it said? Two minutes 697 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: you almost over. Yeah, we got about a minute to half. 698 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: You know, and next time, if you ask me a question, 699 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: I learned next time. Next time, I hope you got 700 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: some listen d because this brown smells. Don't don't deflect 701 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: next time. Don't deflect. You try to come back. That 702 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: one was kind of that was kind of weak. You 703 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: gotta come a little harder next time. So we gotta 704 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: We got about a minute. What is Charles, what is 705 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: your prediction for the game on Sunday? Um, Cowboys win 706 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty one nineteen, gonna be something close twenty 707 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: one nineteen. Is it too early for you to give 708 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: a prediction? Oh? No, Cowboys winning by one point. I 709 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: don't care one pointing. Yeah, one point. What's the key 710 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: to victory? Charles says, control the clock? Uh, make sure 711 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: special teams do not hurt us, like when we get 712 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: in the red zone. You being a kicker, make sure 713 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: he understand what pressure is. Pressure creates a diamond. You 714 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: know it doesn't kill him. Man, Just create a diamond. 715 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: Hain't no diamond. Okay. Red zone that's the key. We 716 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: gotta take advantage of all red zone situation. Red zone 717 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: such nowns and not field goals. Well, fellas, Charles go, 718 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: get your check, get your check. It's a pleasure having 719 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: you on. Thank you, Charles. Your headset's not on. We 720 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: can't hear your Nate. Thanks for being here man. We'll 721 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: see you next week. Thanks Cowboys Club. 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