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Speaker 3: So I believe we do, but I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Congressman ship Roy, I know you've got a busy schedule.

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Speaker 1: You're on the road in Texas. I appreciate you making

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Speaker 2: God Bleslie say you take care.

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Speaker 1: That was Congressman Chip Roy of Texas. I appreciate him

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