WEBVTT - From the Vault: The Sargasso Sea

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, and today we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you a vault episode to help get us through

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<v Speaker 1>some some people being out of office here and there

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<v Speaker 1>over the next couple of weeks. So today's episode originally

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<v Speaker 1>published April nine, and it was on the Sargassum Seaweed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. This is the fun episode, full of fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>creatures in a wonderful environment and also a few allusions

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<v Speaker 1>to a movie we discussed on Weird How Cinema Z

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<v Speaker 1>also known as the Blood Waters of Dr Z. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're interested in that Weird How Cinema episode, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find that in the back catalog. Now, to lay things

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<v Speaker 1>out for you, I think we do have a fresh

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<v Speaker 1>original episode coming up for you on Thursday of this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll have a few more vaults for you the

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<v Speaker 1>week after that, But then we should be back with

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<v Speaker 1>all new things once again. Right, Welcome to Stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>Blow Your Mind, production of My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff to Blow your Mind. My name is Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, and today we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the wettest of the woods, the saltiest of

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<v Speaker 1>the woods. Today the woods are salty, dark and deep.

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<v Speaker 1>And and we have promises to keep and miles to

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<v Speaker 1>float before we sleep, because we're going to be looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a sort of jungle in the ocean. That's right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The ocean. Uh, it knows quite a mix of environments,

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<v Speaker 1>from rich coral reefs to desolate deep sea waste, from

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<v Speaker 1>sunlit shallows to hydrothermal vent heated depths. Marine organisms, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>face numerous challenges, but the most basic demands boiled down to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how not to end, how not to die,

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<v Speaker 1>how to prolong? It's era to quote waiting for the barbarians.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is especially of your small or your young organism.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna need food, and you're gonna need shelter. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's always going to be something trying to eat you.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a number of organisms, this is provided by Sargassum,

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<v Speaker 1>a genus of brown seaweed of sometimes brown, sometimes described

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<v Speaker 1>as brown and orange um as well. Discuss there a

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<v Speaker 1>number of different species here, but uh. Sargassum thrives abundantly

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<v Speaker 1>in the ocean. It floats free of the ocean floor

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<v Speaker 1>It provides a buoyant, free floating environment that travels on

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<v Speaker 1>the tides and offers food, refuge, breeding grounds, nurseries, hunting grounds,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera for a wide variety of organisms. So in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, we're going to discuss the sargassum organisms themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>the environment that they offer, some of its benefactors, and

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<v Speaker 1>also the problems posed by the so called Great Atlantic

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<v Speaker 1>sargassum Belt. Yeah, and that last point is interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, when you think of sea, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think of the macroalgy world, you don't usually think of

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<v Speaker 1>it as something that is particularly economically devastating or or

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<v Speaker 1>or even economically all that significant. But but that that

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<v Speaker 1>is not the case for sargassum. Yeah, as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's an interesting topic to explore because in its

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<v Speaker 1>present form, it kind of cuts both ways. It's both

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<v Speaker 1>vitally important to uh to so many organisms and a

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<v Speaker 1>number of organisms that are then important to us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>various um uh you know marine species that we depend on,

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<v Speaker 1>various fish and so forth. But then on the other hand, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in an environment that is increasingly out of balance, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it also poses a threat and it can pose quite

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<v Speaker 1>a nuisance, So we'll get into all that. So what

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<v Speaker 1>got you thinking about sargassum for today, Rob, Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because tomorrow's episode of Weird House Cinema will entail sargassum

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<v Speaker 1>and casual mention of a few of the creatures, one

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<v Speaker 1>creature in particular that calls it home. Um. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to save all of that for tomorrow's episode. But

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that was probably the first place I heard

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<v Speaker 1>of sargassum, the Weed of deceit. I was wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>we should announce the movie, but maybe we should just

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<v Speaker 1>make everyone wait to find out if they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be wondering, Wait, is it a Jaws clone where it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big raft of seaweed instead of a shark. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it like the Blair Witch Project, but instead of getting

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the woods of Virginia or wherever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you get lost in the woods of the ocean of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sargasso Sea. Well that the truth will just suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>strike out at them and there'll be nothing they can

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<v Speaker 1>do about it. Uh So, So tune in tomorrow if

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<v Speaker 1>you wish for that. But but for this episode, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to focus on first on on Sargassum. The the organism,

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<v Speaker 1>so sargassum glimpsed in the ocean or on the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>it might just look like a big heap of brown mess.

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<v Speaker 1>But about closer look you'll notice that it's composed of branches,

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<v Speaker 1>leafy bits, and what looked like plump berries. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>not berries, So don't don't pick them. Uh, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could pick them, But what they are

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<v Speaker 1>actually are newmaticists. These are air bubbles, um. Uh. They

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<v Speaker 1>are part of the organism held that you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>in these little cysts that help it excel at floating

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<v Speaker 1>around right. Because of course, there are different types of seaweed,

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<v Speaker 1>and some types of seaweed spend their life, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>submerged in the water, and they might be say, anchored

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<v Speaker 1>down by a type of organ known as a hold fast.

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<v Speaker 1>That is somewhat analogous to like the root ball of

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<v Speaker 1>a tree that holds it, except in the case of seaweed,

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<v Speaker 1>it would hold clumps of seaweed to the ocean floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Not entirely analogous, I mean, for many reasons, one of

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<v Speaker 1>which is that, uh, is that the seaweed that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today is technically not even a plant. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a type of macroalgae, which will explain more about.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the case of sargassum, Uh, there are types

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<v Speaker 1>of sargassum that are free floating organisms that spend much

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<v Speaker 1>or all of their lives just floating on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the water to have good access to sunlight, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>which they need in order to make their food to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've got to just sit there and float on

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<v Speaker 1>the top. And they're actually not even anchored to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom at all. They just float out in the open ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do just want to stress again that the

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<v Speaker 1>genus is Sargassum, and there I believe about a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty species um all sargassum. Uh. The hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty number, I got that from the Ocean Foundation, though

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<v Speaker 1>curiously I saw some higher numbers out there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if those were accurate. I'm sticking with

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<v Speaker 1>the one, right. So, there are different kinds that you'll find,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in different parts of the oceans around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>right Uh. And we'll be talking about some key ones though,

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<v Speaker 1>that are the most abundant, or at least in the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the part of the world that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be discussing here. So, as I mentioned, sargassum is a

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<v Speaker 1>brown macroalgay, so it is different than plants. And how

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<v Speaker 1>exactly is it different than plants? Yeah? I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is also important to stress because if you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>much about seaweed, you might just you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might just as soon we all right, it's some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of plant that grows in the water. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you might be reasonable to make that

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<v Speaker 1>assumption just based on its physical appearance, and certainly the

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<v Speaker 1>word seaweed um. Weeds are plants, yeah, yeah, And and

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<v Speaker 1>seaweed is also used informally a lot of times to

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<v Speaker 1>describe both the algae and some plant organisms. But the

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<v Speaker 1>algae are protests, meaning they are uh eukaryotic organisms, which

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<v Speaker 1>are not animals plants or fun gi um so land

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<v Speaker 1>plants for their part, they likely derived from fresh water

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<v Speaker 1>algae about five hundred million years ago. An algae is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, when we look at the just the root

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<v Speaker 1>of the word um, they're synonymous with seaweed, as alga

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<v Speaker 1>is the Latin for seaweed. Okay, so if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you just think about algae like the most I would

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<v Speaker 1>say if I was to go on my own personal

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<v Speaker 1>life experience. When I hear the word algae by itself,

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<v Speaker 1>what I tend to think of is kind of green

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<v Speaker 1>pond scum, you know, kind of very like something floating

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<v Speaker 1>on top of a stagnant freshwater body like a pond

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<v Speaker 1>or a lake, that is made of tiny little fibers

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of clumped together. Doesn't have any recognizable

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<v Speaker 1>macro structures the way larger plants like like flowers or

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<v Speaker 1>trees would. But that is not true of all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of algae. These macro algaes that we see in these

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<v Speaker 1>types of seaweed, they have more complex structures that are

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<v Speaker 1>more like the structures of land plants. So they might

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<v Speaker 1>have something that is akin to the stalk of a

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<v Speaker 1>land plant and something that is akin to the leaves.

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<v Speaker 1>In these cases, they would be algal fronds. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah again they look very plant like. You can

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<v Speaker 1>easily look at them and say, oh, they're will leave,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the berries. But uh, at any rate, again, a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty different species of sargassum uh, though we're

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<v Speaker 1>generally going to be talking about specific dominant species within

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<v Speaker 1>given regions. For instance, the two varieties found most often

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<v Speaker 1>in the Caribbean are Sargassum natan's and Sargassum fluitans um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it would be necessary to remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>but just know that again, we're gonna we're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>refer to sargassum a lot, just generally, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately be dealing with specific species that are dominant within

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<v Speaker 1>a given a region. So sargassum reproduces a sexually through fragmentation,

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<v Speaker 1>a form of a sexual reproduction in which parents split

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<v Speaker 1>into fragments and those fragments then become adults. And furthermore,

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<v Speaker 1>the Caribbean sargasm species in particular, and some of these

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<v Speaker 1>other varieties that are important are hollow pelagic. That means

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<v Speaker 1>that they not only float freely on the ocean, but

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<v Speaker 1>they also reproduce vegetatively on the high seas. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're completely in international waters, you know, they're they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're a monkey knife fight that the land has no

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<v Speaker 1>control over. So yeah, but that would mean that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't they can do their whole life cycle without like

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<v Speaker 1>anchoring to the bottom at any point or returning to

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<v Speaker 1>shore or anything like that. Right, And that's gonna that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna becoming important later on. It get it really gets

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<v Speaker 1>in ultimately the idea of sargassum being the wheat of

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<v Speaker 1>the seed, so it grows abundantly in the ocean, where

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<v Speaker 1>it forms vast floating rafts, as it's sometimes called. Though um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think these are rafts in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>you could, you know, be a shipwrecked sailor at sea

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<v Speaker 1>and climb on top of it or hoist a sail

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<v Speaker 1>on it. But essentially just big rafts, big floating chunks

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<v Speaker 1>of of the sargassum, all tingled together, stretching in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases for miles, and these form in areas of converging

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<v Speaker 1>surface currents u and in doing so they create a

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<v Speaker 1>vital environment, like we alluded to earlier. But on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the environment, the organism itself provides food. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the Ocean Foundation, sargassum contributes and estimated six of the

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<v Speaker 1>total primary production in the upper one meter of the

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<v Speaker 1>water column. Okay, so that would refer to like different

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<v Speaker 1>different stages of the food chain. So you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>primary producers that are familiar to us. These are generally

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<v Speaker 1>photosynthesizing organisms, like like plants on land, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>absorbs sunlight to power the chemical reactions that make their bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the secondary uh, characters on the

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<v Speaker 1>food chain that eat the primary producers. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>that eat plants to survive, the same thing is true

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<v Speaker 1>in the ocean. So you've got these primary producers that

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<v Speaker 1>are at least near the top of the water column

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be basing their their energy cycle on

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<v Speaker 1>sunlight to to produce these molecules that make up their

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<v Speaker 1>body that that in turn are eaten by other organisms

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<v Speaker 1>that are the sort of the secondary organisms in that

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<v Speaker 1>food chain. Yeah, it's it's like you said at the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning, this is the forest that we're discussing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, don't think of the ocean itself as

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<v Speaker 1>the forest. Think of the think of the sargassum. These

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<v Speaker 1>going to these rafts of sargassum as the forest. Because

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, as we've discussed in the show before, the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean can be a wasteland. The ocean can be a

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<v Speaker 1>desert and um and in desert, the sargassum can be

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<v Speaker 1>the oasis um. It serves as a place of refuge

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<v Speaker 1>for various creatures as well as again breeding grounds nurseries.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's the primary nursery for a number of

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<v Speaker 1>important to human to humans, especially fish species like the

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<v Speaker 1>Ma ma. And given all of this activity that's going

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<v Speaker 1>on at the various creatures that call it home, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>exclusively uh, their home, it's also prime stalking zone for

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<v Speaker 1>many marine predators, So both sargasm predators who live there

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<v Speaker 1>and have evolved a thrive in its environment, but also

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<v Speaker 1>general marine apex predators that are drawn in by the by,

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<v Speaker 1>by the riches there by the biodiversity. Uh, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>if a few other just sort of general um facts

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<v Speaker 1>about sargassum. It can survive wide temperature and salinity variances,

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<v Speaker 1>and after about a year, those new maticists that help

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<v Speaker 1>it to remain buoyant, uh, they lose their buoyancy and

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<v Speaker 1>bits of sargassum will then sink to the sea floor,

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<v Speaker 1>where it will actually been up providing carbon for various

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<v Speaker 1>deep sea creatures. So it's not only an important energy

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<v Speaker 1>source for the sunlit shallow regions of the sea, but

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<v Speaker 1>for the dark depths as well. I guess, serving as

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that that nutrient rainfall that we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about before that rains upon the deep and indeed when

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<v Speaker 1>it washes up on the shore. Uh. I guess for

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part we're talking about it. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>washing up in manageable quantities, um, it can actually nourish beaches,

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<v Speaker 1>It can prevent sand from blowing away. Uh. And when

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<v Speaker 1>it washes up, it also serves as a food source

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<v Speaker 1>for various coastal species. Um. And not only is it

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<v Speaker 1>generally not harmful to humans, it's actually edible. More than that,

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<v Speaker 1>in a bit, uh, there are also possible biofuel and

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<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical possibilities for sargassum um. We'll get into some of

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<v Speaker 1>the drawbacks later on, but but one of the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things here is that like the idea of just sargassum

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<v Speaker 1>piling up on the beach again in manageable quality quant quantities,

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<v Speaker 1>it does bring to mind that sort of contest, that

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<v Speaker 1>disagreement at times over what constitutes the beach or what

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<v Speaker 1>the beach should look like. You know, should there be

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<v Speaker 1>anything on the beach other than um human strolling and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying their vacation. You know, uh, you know some of

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<v Speaker 1>the some of the really beautiful beaches out there, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times they are manicured, you know, things like

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<v Speaker 1>seaweed are collected regularly in order to have that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of Hollywood beach presented. Uh. And in many cases there's

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<v Speaker 1>an argument to me, may then no debris would be

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<v Speaker 1>on the beach naturally, and it in the right quantities,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be important to keeping the sand from washing away,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping the beach from eroding, etcetera. I can see the

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<v Speaker 1>point of view that would say I'm okay with the

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<v Speaker 1>beach that has natural debris, but not unmanageable amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>natural debris or artificial debris. I mean you certainly you

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<v Speaker 1>know you don't want too many beer cans. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of ruin your beach experience. Yeah, nobody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to step on a beer can on the beach, but likewise,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody really wants to have to walk over a tin

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<v Speaker 1>foot high a mound of urgassum like dead, rotting seaweed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right now, Um, we're gonna be getting into the

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<v Speaker 1>history of humanities awareness and understanding of sargassum uh here.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first bit I want to share is that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, certainly early sailors described sargassum mats, and one

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<v Speaker 1>individual in particular, Christopher Columbus UH This was in when

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<v Speaker 1>abundance sargassum fooled Columbus into thinking he was approaching land.

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<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't find anything that really defined this for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you did, Joe, but I assume

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<v Speaker 1>this is what the term the weed of Deceit refers

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<v Speaker 1>to the idea that you might encounter sargassum mats out

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<v Speaker 1>at sea and you could make the same air that

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus made and think, oh, look at all the seaweed. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's it's thick. It's everywhere. We must be really close

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<v Speaker 1>to land at this point. Sure. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the name comes from, but that makes sense. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So on September six, ain't Columbus road, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>of course translated quote. We have begun to see large

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<v Speaker 1>patches of yellowish green weed, which seems to have been

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<v Speaker 1>torn away from some island or reef. I know better

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<v Speaker 1>because I make the mainland to be farther on. And

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<v Speaker 1>then on September sevent I saw a great deal of

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<v Speaker 1>weed today from rocks that lie to the west. I

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<v Speaker 1>take this to mean we are near land. The weed

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<v Speaker 1>resembles a grass, except that it has long stalks and

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<v Speaker 1>shoots and is loaded with fruit like the like the

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<v Speaker 1>Mastic tree. Um. So, uh, you know, I guess on

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<v Speaker 1>the on September six, it sounds like he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't fool me. We're not that close to land.

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<v Speaker 1>But on September seventeen, he said, nope, we are close

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<v Speaker 1>to land. Look at all this seaweed. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>look up what the mastic tree is because I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the but it's known as Pistachia lentiscus. Ah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up a picture of it as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do see some some prominent little round fruits that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the little berries that I assume that's that's what he

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<v Speaker 1>was comparing to the what what are actually new maticists? Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>As we mentioned earlier, the neumatis are these little tiny

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<v Speaker 1>berry shaped gas bladders that helped the the seaweed float.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this case, yeah, it looks kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>these berries in a tree that would have been familiar

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<v Speaker 1>to Columbus. I think the looking at the Mastic tree

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<v Speaker 1>apparently is useful for its resin thank so. A special

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<v Speaker 1>note is the Sargasso Sea. This is a truly vast

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<v Speaker 1>patch of sargassum. According to the Ocean Foundation, the Sargasso

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<v Speaker 1>Sea is sometimes referred to as the Atlantic Golden Rainforest

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<v Speaker 1>UH and the islands quote unquote uh in the Sargasso

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<v Speaker 1>Sea can be acres across, while the regions they occupy

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<v Speaker 1>can stretch for miles. Right now, the Sargasso Sea is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because it is the only real sea in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that doesn't have any land boundaries. The Sargasso Sea

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<v Speaker 1>is a sea within an ocean. It's uh, this patch

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<v Speaker 1>in the mid all of the Northern Atlantic. Basically, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a large patch if you were to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the eastern coast of the United States, uh and you

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<v Speaker 1>know in the Caribbean maybe with the bottom edge down

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<v Speaker 1>around like Cuba and uh in Puerto Rico, and then

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<v Speaker 1>going up along the the coast of North America up

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<v Speaker 1>towards Newfoundland, and then you just extend out east from there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this big patch in the middle of the Atlantic

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<v Speaker 1>Ocean which is known as the Sargasso Sea. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>should be clear that it is not like blanket covered

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<v Speaker 1>in sargassum seaweed, but there are It is known for

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<v Speaker 1>having large rafts of sargassum seaweed within it, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Sargasso Sea is interesting in a number of ways. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing about it is it's known for having UH, for

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<v Speaker 1>being a place where ships can easily become be calmed,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a a risk that people who are

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<v Speaker 1>not very familiar with sea voyages might not think about

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<v Speaker 1>very often. But back in the days of sailing, one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that was really danger riss is if the winds

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<v Speaker 1>die down and you can't say, you know, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to propel your ship in the direction where it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to go. All throughout the the Atlantic around the Sargasso Sea,

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<v Speaker 1>there tend to be these wind currents. You know they're

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<v Speaker 1>there are winds that will blow you UH, that will

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<v Speaker 1>blow you east to west, down from the from the

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<v Speaker 1>coast of Africa, down towards UH, towards the Caribbean, and

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<v Speaker 1>towards the northern coast of South America. And then there

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<v Speaker 1>are winds and currents in the ocean that lead up

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<v Speaker 1>north along the east coast of North America. And then

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<v Speaker 1>if you go up north from there, there are winds

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<v Speaker 1>and currents that will lead you back towards the east

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<v Speaker 1>from the west. So essentially you create this box in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the North Atlantic that is surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>currents that go in a circle around it, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is often known as the North Atlantic Gyre. Now, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's ever watched, you know, any number of sailing movies

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<v Speaker 1>or TV shows, or any TV show that includes like

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<v Speaker 1>a a voyage by sale across the ocean, This is

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<v Speaker 1>a This is almost a standard bottle episode right here,

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<v Speaker 1>where where suddenly the ship uh is in a is

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<v Speaker 1>in a region where there's just no no wind at all,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing could propel them, and everybody just sets around and

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<v Speaker 1>gets like superstitious and uh a little bit crazy until

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<v Speaker 1>the wind picks back up and saves everybody right. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine like if you actually were traveling across

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic and you didn't know what you were what

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to see, or what was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be out there. Maybe you'd heard some tales of sea monsters.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. You get into an area where there is

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<v Speaker 1>less wind than you're used to than when you traveled

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<v Speaker 1>into the area, you are suddenly be calmed. It becomes

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<v Speaker 1>hard to travel and you're just kind of stuck there

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<v Speaker 1>in the water. And then you start seeing these weird

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<v Speaker 1>rafts floating around in the middle of the ocean. Towards you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine that's pretty odd, YEA. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we maybe don't have to imagine, because there are some

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<v Speaker 1>historical sources that that may well be referring to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's debatable whether they're referring to this or

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<v Speaker 1>something else. But uh, I wanted to look at the

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<v Speaker 1>question how long has the Sargasso Sea been written about? Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets its current name from Portuguese sailors. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>of like you know, the the early modern period, or

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<v Speaker 1>actually I think before that, from like the fifteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I was looking around to see how far

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<v Speaker 1>back written accounts of the Sargasso c go. And I

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<v Speaker 1>found an interesting, possibly applicable bit of history in a

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<v Speaker 1>book by the British archaeologist and Oxford professor Sir Barry Cunliffe. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the book is called on the Ocean, the Mediterranean

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<v Speaker 1>and Atlantic from Prehistory to a d fIF hundred from

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<v Speaker 1>Oxford University Press in And this is in a chapter

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<v Speaker 1>where Cunliffe is writing about records of exploration west of

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<v Speaker 1>the Pillars of Heracles. So the Pillars of Heracles today

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<v Speaker 1>are understood to refer to the Strait of Gibraltar, that

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<v Speaker 1>gap between between Morocco and the Iberian Peninsula, where you

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<v Speaker 1>can just go through this narrow passage to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mediterranean Sea and into the broad Atlantic Ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he's writing about the exploration beyond this point

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<v Speaker 1>out to the west by the ancient cultures of North Africa, Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>and Central Asia. And for for most of these cultures,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mediterranean Sea was of course their bread and butter.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the sea, even the Mediterranean Sea has has

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of dangers and mysteries to it. But sea voyages

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<v Speaker 1>within this region where you know, we're well understood for

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<v Speaker 1>for trade and and exploration and warfare and fishing and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. But sea voyages west into the Atlantic Ocean

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<v Speaker 1>or another story. And so you get plenty of tales

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<v Speaker 1>and say Greek thought and Greek mythology about islands that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe lay out to the west of the Pillars of Hercules,

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<v Speaker 1>way out there in the ocean that that is mostly

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<v Speaker 1>unexplored by your people. Most of the early explorers who

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<v Speaker 1>passed west of Gibraltar did so in order to travel

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<v Speaker 1>along the coast to the north or south. So this

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<v Speaker 1>would be traveling up along the coast of the Iberian

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<v Speaker 1>Peninsula to form these ports, along places like Cadiz that

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<v Speaker 1>became a Phoenician port, or south along the coast of Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>The Phoenicians and the Greeks did this to various extents,

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<v Speaker 1>but the vast and presumably mostly empty Atlantic Ocean was

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<v Speaker 1>not not among everybody, but widely assumed in ancient times

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<v Speaker 1>to be a place of mystery and danger, especially by

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<v Speaker 1>Greek authors. And Kunlife gives the example of the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Greek poet Pindar, who was writing in the early fifth

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<v Speaker 1>century b c. E uh and so to quote from

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<v Speaker 1>Kunliffe here describing the pillars of Heracles, situated at the

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<v Speaker 1>western extremity of the known world, far from home, he advises, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>what lies beyond cannot be trodden by the wise or

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<v Speaker 1>the unwise. One cannot cross from Ghadeer towards the dark west.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn again the sails towards the dry land of Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>The dark west. Yeah, I mean this vast, stormy ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>You you don't know, if you know you travel out

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<v Speaker 1>on it, Like would would you even reach land if

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<v Speaker 1>you kept sailing? I mean it was not known. However,

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<v Speaker 1>kun Of writes that Phoenician sailors were more adventurous in

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<v Speaker 1>general in pushing westward uh And about around the year

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred b C. A Phoenician expedition sponsored by the

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<v Speaker 1>pharaoh Necho the second had been reported to have circumnavigated Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>And though we don't have the original sources for the

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<v Speaker 1>account that I'm about to describe, there are later Roman

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<v Speaker 1>quotations of the accounts of Phoenician sailors possibly pushing further

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<v Speaker 1>west into the Atlantic in exploration. And one of these

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<v Speaker 1>notable sailors was a Carthaginian navigator named him Ilco. That's

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<v Speaker 1>h I m I l c O, who lived probably

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<v Speaker 1>sometime in the fifth century b c. E. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>Carthaginians were an ancient civilization that was based along the

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<v Speaker 1>coast of North Africa. I think their their capital was

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<v Speaker 1>in modern day Tunisia. But who expanded too much of

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the ancient Mediterranean. And then here I'm going to read

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>from Cunliffe as he introduces and quotes another ancient source

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>for for knowledge about Himilco. So Himilco quote, whose report

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 1>published long ago in the secret Annals of the Carthaginians,

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is selectively quoted in a grossly pretentious poem compiled by

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>our Roman administrator Rufus Festus Aviennas in the fourth century

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a d. A few lines of his Aura maritima will

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>suffice to give the flavor. And then this quotes lines

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>three seventy four. To the west of these pillars, Himilco

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>reports that the swell is boundless, the sea extends widely

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the salt water streaks. Fourth, no one has approached these waters.

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>No one has brought his keel into that sea, because

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>there are no propelling breezes at sea, and no breath

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of Heaven's air aids the ship. Hence, because the mist

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>cloaks the air with a kind of garment, a cloud

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.880
<v Speaker 1>always holds the swell and persists throughout the humid day.

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>And so that's describing possibly some of the becalmed area

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>of the North Atlantic, with like within the Gyre region

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about before, you know, surrounded by the currents,

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>but is very often very still in that middle area

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>that overlaps with the Sargasso Sea. But then Cunliff goes

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>on to describe further how Aviennas quotes from him Ilko

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to describe his voyage. Uh Cunlift writes Elsewhere he talks

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>of monsters of the deep and beasts who swim amid

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 1>the slow and sluggish crawling ships, and again great fear

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>of monsters stalks the deep. When the wind falls, the

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>sluggish liquid of the lazy sea is at a stand still,

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 1>while thick seaweed often tops the sea, and the tide

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>is hindered by the marshy rack. The marshy rack. Oh

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>yeah um and Kunlaf also says Himilko was evidently not

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>enamored of his encounter with the ocean. Perhaps perhaps his

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>vessel was drawn south into the dull drums and reach

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the Sargasso Sea, as some commentators have suggested, or perhaps

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>he reported in this dispiriting way simply to aggrandize his

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 1>own achievement and to deter others. Another possibility is that

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>his original report was embroidered by Aviennus Uh. So we

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what he's describing here and if what

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>he's describing is real, especially since we're only getting it

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>quoted by a secondary source and we don't have the

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>original source. But of course it is true. There's the

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>danger of the dull drums, the calm part of the

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic where you won't have winds to propel your your sales. Uh,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>so you can very well get trapped there. That could

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>well overlap with large stretches of seaweed, the sargassum seaweed

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that you would find in the Sargasso Sea. So one

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>possible interpretation of what we're getting here is that this

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>ancient Carthaginian sailor him Ilco actually sailed to the Sargasso Sea, survived,

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>returned to Carthage eventually, and you know, lived to tell

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the tale. But again it's worth stressing that modern some

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>modern scholars are are doubtful. It's hard to know for sure,

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>but some details line up if they're accurate. You've got

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 1>these reports about the marshy rack of seaweed coinciding with

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the Doldrums. It it lines up in a kind of

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>interesting way. And then finally, of course, the mention of

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>sea monsters right the I wonder if it's possible to

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>mistake the shadow of a huge floating raft of sargassum

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>for a sea monster stalking the deep. Again, I don't know,

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but it strikes me as possible. Yeah. Yeah, And well,

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.239
<v Speaker 1>once you get into discussing sea monsters, of course, as

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>we've we've explored in the show before, especially looking at

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the work of the check ven Douser. Yeah, right on

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>sea monsters. I believe he pointed out in his book

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that you know, at times sea monsters are a manifestation

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>of uh certainly of of second and third hand accounts

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of of actual organisms. Other times their products of the mind,

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>sometimes their products of of economic or political forces. So

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>they're the whole host of reasons uh to to speak

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the word of the name of the sea monster. But

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that's certainly the yeah, the doldrums that seemed to be

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>described here, and then the uh, the the rack, the muck,

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the seaweed here this does sound a lot like the

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>descriptions modern descriptions of the sargassoc. Oh. And sorry, there's

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>one thing I didn't clarify, but just to avoid confusion,

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>because it's not a common word, I had to look

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>this up. Rack here in this quotation is spelled with

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the W W R A C K, And I was like,

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>what is that referring to? Is that like referring to

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>like a like a shipwreck, because rack sometimes is an

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>alternate spelling of rack or wreckage. But also I looked

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it up and apparently. It is also just a word

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes used to refer to a massive seaweed like green vegetation.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Could be oh, there is a rack with the W. Yeah, okay,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>well sometimes it U. I wasn't familiar with the precise definition,

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>but I totally understood it in the context of the sentence.

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like, look at this rack, there's no getting through it.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>So so certainly you can imagine that the rack would

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>not be a great place to find yourself as a

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>human sailor, certainly in in ancient times. But of course

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the Iraq is home to a great many organisms, as

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>we've already alluded to here. So uh for one thing,

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you have you have various um micro and macro um epiphytes.

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>These are organisms that grow on the surface of a

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>plant and derived derives its moisture and nutrients from the air, rain,

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and water. Uh. So you have that's those sorts of

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>organisms growing there. You have fung gi. You have more

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>than a hundred species of invertebrates that are known to

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>uh to to live within the sargassum, over a hundred

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>species of fish, four species of turtle. Again, and it

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of spirals out because once you have a certain

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>amount of of life, uh, fostered within the sargassum, it's

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>going to attract other things as well, so you'll see

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>things like sharks showing up, etcetera. So we are not

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>going to attempt to cover everything that lives in the sargassum,

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>but we are going to talk about some of the standouts,

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>because there are some really fun, really interesting, really weird

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>organisms that call the rack home in the first of

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>which I want to talk about is the sargassum fish,

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>also known as the sargassum frog fish. Now, is this

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the one that you lured me into this episode with?

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Because the first thing that I became aware of when

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you were getting interested in sargassum was was that you

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>came to me and you said, Joe, there is a

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>fish with hands. Yes, yes, this would be uh, this

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>would be the sargassum frog fish. Um and uh and

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'll and I'll explain what I mean by by hands.

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>And they're not quite hands, but they are enough like

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>hands that you're committed to get excited um and uh

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's probably the most famous sargas some denizen.

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>It's the species history of history o frog fish of

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the family Uh. At Tinninara day and it's the only

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>species of its genus. So, uh, we'll describe them here,

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>but also feel free to look up images or video.

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's nothing quite like seeing video of these uh,

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>these creatures. I think there's some wonderful national geographic footage.

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>But also the Weird House Cinema selection for tomorrow also

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>will feature some actual footage of this creature right at

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the top. Um So, the uh, the sargassum fish grows

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>to around twenty centimeters in lengths, so about seven point

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>eight inches. And I should I guess I should say,

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>first of all, they generally have this appearance that you'll

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>find with other frog fish um and uh and and

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they're related to uh to the angler fish of the deep. Uh.

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So they have these upturned mouths, which kind of give

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>them kind of this uh, the frowny face, look, this

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of froggy appearance and uh and and so that

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing to drive home about them. So

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>they have that that kind of body that I think

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.959
<v Speaker 1>at number of you can can imagine, but they sometimes

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of think of it as the drawbridge jaw. Yes, yes,

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that's a good way of describing a drawbridge jaw, and

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of course, like like pretty much all fish, you know,

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>they're they're going to consume by by lunging and inhaling,

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, pulling their their prey rapidly into their mouth.

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Um their masters. These particular fish, though, uh, the sargassom

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>fish are masters of camouflage, at least within the sargassum environment,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>because they've adapted to physically look like the sargassum, complete

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>with fleshy appendages that look like weed. I've seen some

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>of the some of the appendages have even been compared

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to organisms that live within the weed um. So they

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>just they just they look like they're just a part

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of the environment. You'll see images or even footage sometimes

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of the sargassum fish hiding in the seaweed and you

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>really cannot pick them out with a human eye. I

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>think at some point I watched a documentary or part

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>of a documentary that had some of these in it,

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was one of those like you know, trick

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>shots where they show you the shot and then it's

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>like there are three sargassum fish in the shot, you

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>can't see them at all, and then has to like

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>circle them or zoom in on them or something. I

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>think I've seen the same one. Yeah. Um. But of

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>course it's not just their physical structure and initial coloration.

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 1>The other cool thing about them is they can further

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>adjust their coloration from dark browns and greens to light

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 1>browns and greens to complete the illusion, to to fine

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>tune it so that they blend in you know, seemingly completely. Um.

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>And they can do this quite rapidly as well. This

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>is important for the sargassum fish because again it is

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a voracious hunter, but also it's the jungle baby, so

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>you know they're they're also they also have to be

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>on guard against other predators, so it also helps protect them.

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Now they let's get to the hands, so if you will,

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>uh so their pants, their pelvic fins uh, you know

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the fins up front. They have nine to eleven rays

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 1>uh in them and they're stalked, essentially forming what act

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>like clause. Basically, they can use these things again they

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>look like clause, they look like fish clause, and they

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>can use these to grip objects, and they use these

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to clamber over and through the seaweed. Okay, so they

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>can use them to grip objects, not in the sense

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of like like our fingers where you would manipulate objects freely.

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 1>But they can grip things in the sense of like

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of pushing against surfaces. Right. Yeah, they're not gonna

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>be able to use an iPhone, they can't play the

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>piano worth of dying, but but they can use these appendages.

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.280
<v Speaker 1>You have to sort of grip and push through things,

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>which is gonna be vitally important when you're hanging out

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>in the sargassum like little gravoid spines. Yeah, so they're

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 1>really cool. Definitely look up. I mean they're beyond cool.

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>They're a little creepy looking. I highly recommended checking them out. Um. So, so,

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously the adults live in the mats and their eggs

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>are placed there as well, but the larvae develop in

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the water columns between fifty and six deep um. And

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you might think, well that, I guess the sargassum environment

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.879
<v Speaker 1>then is just no place for for kids, right um.

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>And this is certainly the case, especially since the sargassum

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>fish is more than happy to eat them as well.

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>So they're in They're not only incredibly voracious, but their

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>notorious cannibals. I was reading about some of the studies

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:37.919
<v Speaker 1>where they've they've caught sargassum fish and they've they've looked

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.959
<v Speaker 1>inside at their bellies and they'll find like multiple juveniles.

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, they'll find some juveniles and they just they'll

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>just just gobble them up delicious. Yeah. So again, just

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a fabulous fish. Just it's everything about it is uh

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>is both beautiful and frightening, uh in just the right proportions. Now,

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not the only creature that that that lives are again,

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and they're not the only creature that that takes a

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>sargassum as part of its uh you know, official or

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>unofficial name. For instance, there's the sargassum pipe fish. This

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>is a species of pipe fish that makes its home

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>in the sargassum mats uh. And like all pipe fish

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and seahorses, the male carries the egg. Um. They're just

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>into these elongated um, you know, beautiful fish with that

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of signature, uh seahorsey head now. Um. Just briefly

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other organisms. Well, first, in general should

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>say that that the Sargasso Sea in particular is a

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>spawning site for various eels, uh, including threatened and endangered eels.

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>But speaking of decapods, there is also worth our consideration.

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>The sargassum swimming crab or U Portunists say, I, uh,

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 1>this is uh just one variety of crab you'll find

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in sargassum mats, but it's an impressive one and a

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>species adapted to blend into the environment. They have an

0:37:55.800 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>orange brown colorization that apparently matches up with the sargassum

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty well. And as the name implies, they're more adapted

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>for swimming than walking. U. The fourth pair of legs

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>are modified into paddle like structures. Now, crabs, of of course,

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>are noted for walking sideways, so you might wonder how

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 1>does it swim. Well, they tend to swim sideways as well. Uh,

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>and apparently they're quite fast. They depend on a mix

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>of active and passive hunting, so they'll they'll actively chase

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>after something again sideways uh to catch it, but they'll

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>also fall back on that that sort of ambush hunting

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>within the jungle of the sargassum. Yeah. Now, in addition

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>to these organisms that spend all or most of their

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>lives in the sargassum, there are also organisms that use

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>sargassum as a sort of like a stepping stone during

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>their migration patterns. One example that's often referenced would be

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>young sea turtles. Yeah, and I've also heard that it's

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>important to even like migratory birds for species. Again, it's

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's an oasis in the wastes, an oasis in

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the desert of the sea. Thank thank so. Now, earlier

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>we we alluded to the sargassum being not not only

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>this this bountiful environment, but also potentially a problem, a

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>problem for humans and the sort of human likes and

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>dislikes concerning beaches, but also just for the environment as

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a whole. As the Ocean Foundation points out, it's ecologically

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>important the sargassum, but it doesn't mean it doesn't have

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>some downsides, especially when you're dealing with large volumes. Right,

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>And this is something that's become especially a problem within

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>just the last decade or so. Actually, it can really

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>be dated to a year in particular from what from

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 1>everything we've been reading for the year two thousand eleven.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Starting around two thousand eleven, something started happening with sargass

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>them in the Atlantic Ocean where there was a sudden

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>increase that has gone on in many years since then,

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of of sargassum inundations where beaches and shore lines along

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>areas in the Caribbean, along the coast of Florida, along

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.879
<v Speaker 1>places in the coast of the northern coast of South

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>America would just be caked with sargassum, like they're just

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>mounds and mounds of seaweed piling up to the point

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that it in some cases would make these shores unusable

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>for what humans have been using them for, usually in

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in the years beforehand. Yeah, if if any of you

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>out there are are snorkelers, or are you know, related

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to our friends with snorkeling enthusiasts, then you've you've probably

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 1>heard about the blight of sargassum, about the disappointment of off, say,

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, reaching a popular snorkeling area and finding that

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>there's just sargassum everywhere, um, you know. So it's in

0:40:57.600 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>particular one of the things that the Ocean Foundation points out,

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>huge rafts of it can actually smother other sea grasses

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and even coral reefs. Um. You know. Granted, coral reefs

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>are facing uh a number of problems, um, you know,

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and are and uh and we've gone into that in

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>past episodes. But but certainly this could disrupt your ability

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to even properly view them as a as a tourist

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>in the ocean, as a as a snorkeler, um, you know,

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>out there trying to to observe this natural habitat. Uh

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it can also this is interesting this this has brought

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 1>up as well. Apparently sargassum can serve as a means

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of transport for invasive species. Though UM, I honestly wonder

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>if this at all compares to human enabled invasive species transport.

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>It seems like, um it almost wouldn't matter compared to

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>what humans can and have done. Uh you know, importing

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>species like the lion fish into regions that um, that

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that are not balanced enough to to contain them. Well, yes,

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but I would also say that there I think there

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>is at least a strong likelihood that human behavior is

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a major contributor to these these new build ups of

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>sargassum in the last Yeah, and we'll and we'll get

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.240
<v Speaker 1>into into more of that in just a second. Um,

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>just a few more points here that the Ocean Foundation

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>made Uh. Sargassum of course can prevent boats and fishermen

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.919
<v Speaker 1>from setting out to sea. It can also prevent sea

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>turtles from making it to nest in these cases as well.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>So you know, again you have it massing up on

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the beach. In particular, if it's um, you know, a

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of that is arguably good for the beach,

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>but if you have too much of it, yeah, it's

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna actually interfere potentially in a sea turtle's ability to

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>come on shore lady eggs and then have the hatchlings

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 1>be able to properly get back out to sea again

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 1>in in an appropriate amount of time. And if it

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>masses on the beach, the sargassum it, if it's not

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>removed in time, it can produce hydrogen sulfide, which can

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>have a made your can have major detrimental effects on

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>coastal ecosystems. Yeah, I mean, it can have all kinds

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of negative effects on the wildlife itself. I mean, one

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>would be like if it doesn't reach the beach, if

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you're just talking about it still being in the water.

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Big blooms of algal organisms in the water can have

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>downstream effects when the blooms eventually die and then there's

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>all of this dead, decomposing material in the water, and

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>then the decomposition of that material ends up robbing the

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>water of dissolved oxygen, which in turn leads to these

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>big fish die offs and die offs of other organisms

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>because there's not enough oxygen in the water for them

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to breathe. Yeah, and also all that decomposition in the

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>water can promote harmful blooms of bacteria and other microbes.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess the way to to to think of it

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>is it's basically like spiraling imbalance in the ecosystem. And

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>uh and and uh it's it's place in this. This

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>this the cascade of imbalance. Now to get kind of

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>a I guess sort of a bird's eye or I

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>guess satellite view of things. Um. I found this pretty helpful.

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at a July twenty nineteen article from

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>NASA Goddard. They utilize the satellite images to observe the

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Great Atlantic Sargassum belt. Uh so at this point, based

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>on simulations, they confirmed that its shape was due to

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 1>ocean currents and that it can grow large enough so

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.919
<v Speaker 1>as to blanket the surface of the Tropical Atlantic from

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the west coast of Africa to the Gulf of Mexico.

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Major blooms have occurred in every year between twenty eleven

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 1>and again this was a July articles, so that's as

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>far up as it went at the time. UH, with

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the exception of which this was apparently UH this year

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>was impacted by unusually low seed populations during the winter,

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>but otherwise eleven onward, it's been sargassum season. Prior to

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>most of the free floating sargassum in the ocean was

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 1>primarily found in patches around the Gulf of Mexico and

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the Sargasso Sea. But then something changed, something seemingly in

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the biochemistry the ocean. Obviously, you know, people were asking

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions about climate change UH and and

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>ultimately I guess the reality is is complicated, but basically yes,

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>it's pointed out by a doctor Paula Bontempi of NASA's

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Ocean Biology and Biogeochemistry Program, the ocean's biochemistry is changing

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 1>due to a mix of natural and human forces, and

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it seems to be leading to an ecosystem shift with

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 1>important implications for marine life and human life. Since we

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 1>depend on many of the species in question and live

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:50.359
<v Speaker 1>in in in many of the environments that are impacted. UH.

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Climate change is certainly a key aspect of this as

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it impacts precipitation and ocean circulation, but increased water temperatures

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>typically don't seem to be the cause. It's these other causes.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>But again, uh, climate change is very much part of

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the issue. I don't want to make it sound like

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not. Yeah, if you were. If you want to

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>read more in depth about this research, there's a really

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>good article in The Atlantic by Ed Young from July

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen called hy waves of seaweed have been smothering Caribbean beaches. Again,

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>this from July nineteen by Ed Young. Uh, that's worth

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:27.320
<v Speaker 1>looking up, and it gets into a lot of the

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>difficulty and uncertainty in trying to figure out exactly what

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:33.959
<v Speaker 1>the underlying factors leading to this change that we first

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>saw in the year two thousand eleven was establishing this

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 1>this huge belt of sargassum that was not there previously.

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And what we want to be very clear, this Atlantic

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>sargassum belt is different from the sargassum in the Sargasso Sea.

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>The Sargasso Sea is further north in the North Atlantic

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>off the east coast of of like the United States,

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>whereas this would be something that stretches more between Brazil

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and Africa. In fact, one of the things that Ed

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Young writes about in this article was the very idea

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of the satellite photos that you were talking about that

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>one of the fortunate things for studying sargassum blooms on

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:15.879
<v Speaker 1>the large scale is that sargassum reflects more infrared light

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>than the seawater around it, So when you look down

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 1>with satellites, sargassum patches can appear as hot spots in

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the ocean that can be seen from space. Young sites, Uh,

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the researcher named Jim Gower of the Fisheries and Oceans

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Canada for for doing this satellite research. But yeah, the

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the satellite photos found that the bloom really began in

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>April of two thousand eleven, which correlates with you know

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 1>these times when these pile ups on the beaches, the

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:49.720
<v Speaker 1>sargassum inundations really started becoming a problem that people noticed.

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 1>But they started noticing the blooms off the coast of

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Brazil in the satellite images from two thousand eleven. And

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>then Young also points to research by someone named Ming

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Chi Wang from the University of South Florida who, along

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>with her colleagues, they've basically established that, yeah, this bloom

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>is just going to be an ongoing yearly thing now,

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 1>uh that that it's coming and it's probably not going

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to stop. Though. One of the interesting things this article

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>gets into is a delay between the proximate causes that

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>are likely leading to the blooms and then when the

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.959
<v Speaker 1>blooms show up within you know, what we can see

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>with our satellites or what's piling up on our beaches.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Because a couple of the factors that have been identified

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>as likely candidates leading to these blooms. One is um

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>is water being discharged from the Amazon River. You know,

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it's coming out of South America. UM. And this water

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the Amazon River is probably being especially

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 1>saturated with nutrients from agriculture that's happening all along the

0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Amazon basin, and so this is like it's like for

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>fertilizer that is flooding into the ocean, and then of

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 1>course that is feeding blooms of of this macro algae.

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And then there are other factors they get into that

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>are probably contributing, such as like what the different temperatures

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>are this year. It's the same thing you were talking

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>about that um that climate change doesn't seem to be

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the cause of it in the sense of increasing ocean

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:25.439
<v Speaker 1>temperatures lead to uh, lead to macro alogy blooms, because

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't appear to be the case, but downstream other

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 1>effects of climate change are very likely contributing to this.

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just not the temperature of the water itself. Another

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>factor that they're talking about is access to the seed

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>populations of of seaweed. It's like, how many patches of

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>seaweed are there leftover that survived the winter of the

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 1>previous year and can act as a kind of seed

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>for the regrowth of the seaweed every new season. Yeah,

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 1>because I think it kind of brings back that that

0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>point about the neumaticis having a like a year lifespan,

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:02.799
<v Speaker 1>so there's gonna be a certain amount of crossover as

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>well here from one year to the next. Um. I

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>was impressed one of the quotes you pulled from from

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the eight young article just about how many tons of

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>seaweed we're talking about here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, So the estimate,

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I think this would be referring to the year previous

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to when this article was written, So it was published

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen, so I think this would be referring

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to the summer of eighteen during June, when the Sargassin

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Belt was at at its most fruitful, it was estimated

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to contain twenty two million tons of seaweed. And then

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 1>there's even a clarification later in the article that that

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 1>estimate is probably low since the resolution of the satellite

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.800
<v Speaker 1>camera that's taking the infrared imagery to establish that number,

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it has like a minimum sort of pixel distance resolution,

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.719
<v Speaker 1>so it can only see patches that show up at

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a minimum resolution of something like a kilometer. I think

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it was. It could be long about that. Uh, doing

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that just stuff memory, but I think that's what it was.

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>And uh. And so like patches that are smaller than that,

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:06.359
<v Speaker 1>with which there are probably plenty, they're not even really

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 1>showing up on the imaging. So that's a lot of seaweed.

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of seaweed, folks, And there's a lot

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's ending up on a lot of it's ending

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>up on the shores eventually. But one thing that is

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>worth stressing again is that while researchers have probably identified

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 1>some very good candidates for the explanations of of these

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>blooms and inundations of sargassum in the last decade or so.

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>There's still some uncertainty. There's like stuff we don't know

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>about what what could be leading to it and what

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>could be the limiting and contributing factors. Anyway, that the

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>article by ed Young is a really good read. You

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 1>should look it up. Yeah, absolutely, I recommend that one. Now.

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, in the past, I think it's been brought

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 1>up when we're dealing with invasive species or species that

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:54.360
<v Speaker 1>are out of balance, one of the best things that

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you can do is develop an appetite for that species,

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 1>uh in human being. Now, I don't I don't think

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 1>anybody's making an argument that that could um make a

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>difference with the sargassum. But it is again worth noting

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that sargassum is something that humans can eat. Uh. We

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned that already, and I found a wonderful blog

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>titled Eat the Weeds with Green Dean. Um. So his

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>name is Dean, but he's Green Dean. Get it and

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the blogs. The blog is titled Sargassum Sea Vegetable And

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>in this post, Green Dean points to a few different

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 1>culinary traditions that have recipes for sargassum. Uh. Though he

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>points out that given the different species. Basically, it's sargassum

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to quote very in taste and texture, So

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:46.240
<v Speaker 1>there is no one way to cook your local species. Uh.

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 1>He says that some amount of experimentation is going to

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>be required, but basically he goes through different cuisines in

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:56.959
<v Speaker 1>this post, points out that sometimes it's consumed fresh. Other

0:52:57.000 --> 0:53:00.760
<v Speaker 1>times it's cooked, saying coconut milk or vinegar or lemon juice.

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Other Times it's smoke dried, or it's boiled. Sometimes it's

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>even sweetened and put into steam buns. Sometimes it's cooked

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>with fish. Basically, they're just numerous ways to approach it,

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.760
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's worth checking out. The link I recommended

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it said, eat the weeds dot com you'll find a

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 1>post on the sargasm sea vegetable. Um. I'm not sure

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I've ever had sargassum in a dish. Maybe I have

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and I just wasn't alert to it, But now I

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like I really, I really want to have it.

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:31.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I have either. I mean, I've

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:33.839
<v Speaker 1>had a number of seaweed salads, but I don't know

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>what species were in them. Yeah, well, I know some

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>basic things. I mean, I know like combo and combo,

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of course, is a seaweed based food additive that is

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>an amazing source of umami flavor. It's it's it's almost

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>like raw msg. It's that it's good stuff um But

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:52.839
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, other than that, I don't know. I mean,

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I've had I've had like various seaweed salads at Japanese

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>restaurants that have had different types of seaweeds, some that

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 1>looked kind of like orange around, like like some species

0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.359
<v Speaker 1>of sargassum do So maybe I have I don't know. Huh, yeah,

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I've I've only I know of at least

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:10.879
<v Speaker 1>one time, had like a sampler of seaweed salads from

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the Japanese restaurant. But in those cases, I think they

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>were all still rather green. They didn't have um any

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of darker coloration. So I don't know. I'm gonna

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>look for it now now it is on it is

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:25.720
<v Speaker 1>it is something I want to specifically try out, knowing

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>that it is sargassum. I just looked it up to

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>make sure. I I thought that combo was not sargassum,

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and it is not. Comb is a type of kelp. Well, obviously,

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>we'd love to hear from everyone out there about this

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 1>topic in general, but but specifically on this question of

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the cooking and the consumption of sargassum. If you've if

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you you definitely know you've had it, and you've had

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>in a particular way that was yummy or or or

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:52.600
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0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:55.360
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0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>any feedback about about the various organisms we've discussed here

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>surrounding sar assam or uh sargassom, seaweed itself. Perhaps you're

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.160
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0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.920
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