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Speaker 3: A lot A lot is up?

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Speaker 4: Tie.

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Speaker 3: I'm not particularly awake, but I'm also not particularly tired.

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Speaker 3: I'm in a weird zone right now because we have

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Speaker 3: a lot to unpack. Yes, we have a top four.

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Speaker 3: We waited to record obviously. Usually we record if we're

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Speaker 3: Bimbam would say, we record generally around eleven am. Yep,

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Speaker 3: we decided to wait today, So apologies if this is

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Speaker 3: up later than usual. We do things for you. We

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Speaker 3: have a top four. We have a top I don't

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Speaker 3: I actually don't know have the full rankings in front

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Speaker 1: But we have a top four. We have a top four.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump right in. We do have breaking new.

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Speaker 3: Boo boo, Yeah, we do have a top four.

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Speaker 1: The playoff rankings are out. They came out at twelve

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Speaker 1: thirty after a nice little thirty minute preamble from the

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Speaker 1: fine folks at ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Better than the college basketball crew.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Number one Alabama, number two, Clemson, number three,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State and your number four, drum roll please, the

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Speaker 1: Washington Huskies. Dan. Yes, that means Penn State is five,

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Speaker 1: Michigan is six. Oklahoma. I didn't see this. I left

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Speaker 1: is now seventh. What is your quick read on this?

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Speaker 1: What's your takeaway?

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Speaker 3: My takeaway is Penn State fans are going to be upset,

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Speaker 3: and I understand why they're upset. I can't fully empathize

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Speaker 3: Big Ten schedule and in their non conference schedule. But

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Speaker 3: my feeling is at this point I would have okay

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Speaker 3: okay with Ohio State getting in despite not winning the conference.

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Speaker 3: And I have made peace with the fact. And this

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Speaker 3: is the important thing, and I've said this online and

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Speaker 3: now on Wake Up College Football, that we just did

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Speaker 3: the fact that the College Football Playoff is a separate

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Speaker 3: important to remember that nobody on the College Football Playoff

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Speaker 3: Committee designed the Big Ten divisions, or design the Pac

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Speaker 1: So let me first start by telling you how I

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Speaker 1: But I did graduate from Penn State. I came home

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Speaker 1: My takeaway is this, this would have been a great

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Speaker 1: would have been so perfect. You can make a great

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Speaker 1: As you know, and as said countless times here, beauty

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Speaker 1: So I don't have a problem with the committee taking

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Speaker 1: the conference championship argument. While you won your championship, therefore

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Speaker 1: you should be you should be in the playoff. You're right,

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Speaker 1: there are two mutually exclusive systems. This system was purposely

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Speaker 1: it was Dan Wetzill we tweeted this out last night.

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Speaker 1: What are conferences at this point really their TV networks,

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Speaker 1: That argument does not fit into this one. It doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I also don't think strength the schedule should apply.

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Speaker 1: My points this, and we talked about this a couple

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, you're right, and the fact that Washington creamed

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Speaker 3: they did and they took care of business, and teams

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Speaker 3: you never know for sure. No, if you have a point.

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Speaker 1: And if you're scheduling Portland State, that's a little different.

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Speaker 1: what matters, though, I think is how we apply this.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's always been a data point. It's a

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Speaker 1: But to me, it has never indicated the actual strength

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Speaker 3: They're all ingredients in a recipe.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, so with all that being said, and I say

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Speaker 1: this is a proud Penn State alum, Dan, I think

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Speaker 1: Washington's got better balance. I think they're the better team.

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Speaker 1: The only place where I think I disagree with you,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I misread the tweet.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Last night you offered some commentary that you thought Washington

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is accurate. And the reason it is to

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Speaker 3: big strength of schedule thing. The PAC twelve requires more

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Speaker 3: And that's my opinion, and that is somebody who's watched

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Speaker 1: I would agree with those metrics. Yeah, I think you

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Speaker 1: Bar none, Penn State would have been more interesting because

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Speaker 1: they would have come in viewed as an extreme underdog,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: They would kind of have this feel of a basketball

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Speaker 1: that story has I think a lot more pop in

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Speaker 1: And because this is a historic blue blood program with

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Speaker 1: a lot more interesting, especially here maybe a little East

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Speaker 1: Coast bias creeping in Penn State is a talking point.

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Speaker 1: Would have had a lot more gravity than Washington versus Alabama.

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Speaker 3: You're not wrong, And it's difficult to drum up attention

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Speaker 3: fault of Washington's, that's just the context, and you had

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Speaker 3: college football, right, I don't think we.

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Speaker 1: Have well, just look at us. So yeah, just.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think people are dorks like us. I think

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Speaker 3: there is a recognition among the dorkier sect of college

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Speaker 3: the College Well Playoff, But the more diehards, I think

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Speaker 3: CE Washington is having a better chance to make four

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Speaker 3: quarter noise against any of these teams wherever they ended up,

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Speaker 1: Top ten offense, top ten defense, I'm with you. I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with this pick. Would have been very curious to

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Speaker 1: I think they got the right four teams. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: It's not going to do well. It's about that, you

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, one final point here before we get

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Speaker 3: that's my brand. Win your games when you don't lose

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you are still respecting as a team,

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Speaker 3: But you can't lose by thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's that's the sticker man right there.

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Speaker 1: Don't lose more than once if you're gonna make sure

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Speaker 1: And you're right, it's a different Penn State team. They

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Speaker 3: They and it wasn't three years ago, it was not

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well, they've got eighteen starters coming back next year.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Aaron in Brooklyn, and this is Aaron

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Speaker 1: We're watching the SEC title game and we just got

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Speaker 4: Already.

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Speaker 5: J Hey, this is CSU Optimist checking in from Northtown, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: This is Roddy from Georgia.

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Speaker 6: Missus Knight calling from the Oakland International Airport.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Dan and Ty, It's Robert calling from Marita.

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Speaker 7: You gotta love Championship Saturday because we show players just

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Speaker 5: Penn State is you're Big ten two thy sixteenth conference champion.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 5: All those people on game day saying with Tompanillen, no no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty drunk, but I'm pretty sure I just watched

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Speaker 2: Penn State.

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Speaker 6: Win the Big Ten Championship.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations to James Franklin for becoming the first ever glasses

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Speaker 5: a question for Dan, are you who, quote unquote we

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Speaker 6: I like how we all just glaze over the fact

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Speaker 7: I like how Fox has Matt Lioner and Brady Quinn

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Speaker 2: And I just want to get hit a shout out

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Speaker 5: Now, usually Alabama cross posts spondents, but due to the

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Speaker 1: Involved, I think we can call this a gator putting

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Speaker 2: And realizing very quickly tonight after watching the something that

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Florida just climb Mount Everest.

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Speaker 2: I mean they Coorida touchdown on Alabama. What was your

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Speaker 7: I'm concerned that Nick Saban has discovered a Lazarus pit

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Speaker 6: Washington's back and we want Bama, Colorado Washington. Last night

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Speaker 4: Go dog.

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Speaker 7: I can't wait for the college football Playoff just changes,

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Speaker 2: Oh, guys, come on, we just got this last year,

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Speaker 1: Baylor's not doing half bad in this game. If they

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Speaker 5: And I was wondering if anybody actually realized that TCU

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Speaker 4: At the end of the college football season. Basically, the

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Speaker 1: That's it. No other news. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: Hot content tie.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We did get one other phone call which

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Speaker 6: So how about twenty sixteen as the year of the

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Speaker 6: Y'all are wizards. We just need to figure out which

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Speaker 3: Big ten. That was me popping my water bottle closed.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Penn State Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Penn State, Wisconsin. Your final score thirty eight to thirty one.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't see it, it was a classic Gus Johnson game.

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Speaker 1: total control, like up until I want to say, five

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Speaker 1: minutes or so. In the first half they were up

440
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Speaker 1: twenty eight to seven. The missing link for them was

441
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Speaker 1: always offense, right, and in this game they were dominant.

442
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Speaker 1: We saw Bart Houston play the entire game at quarterback.

443
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Speaker 1: I thought he looked pretty good, made some good throws.

444
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Speaker 1: Corey Clement also played an outstanding game. You know he's

445
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Speaker 1: a downhill runner. I felt like we saw some moves

446
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Speaker 1: from him in this game that we don't normally see.

447
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 1: He really seemed to be performing at a high level. Also,

448
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Speaker 1: in addition to what they did on offense, Wisconsin almost

449
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: completely negated Penn State's rushing attack and they couldn't use

450
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: trace Mcsorlei on the ground as longest run all game

451
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Speaker 1: really was like three yards. Saquon had a good game,

452
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Speaker 1: but in a vacuum, not the kind of game that

453
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Speaker 1: single handedly gonna beat you things. To that point, Dan

454
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: looked like they were going very strongly in the direction

455
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Speaker 1: of a dominant win for Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Right and what did we say? I mean, we are

457
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Speaker 3: mostly always wrong, But what did we say was going

458
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: to be the key type of play that would decide

459
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Speaker 3: this game?

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Speaker 1: The deep ball?

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Speaker 3: I believe it would just be, yeah, explosive plays in

462
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Speaker 3: general with two good defenses that turn other teams over

463
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Speaker 3: if you look at the pure raw numbers, especially in

464
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Speaker 3: the first half. But overall, Wisconsin didn't turn the ball over,

465
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Speaker 3: They weren't overly penalized, They were able to completely shut

466
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Speaker 3: down Penn State and a very talented Saquon Barkley, albeit

467
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Speaker 3: wounded Saquon Barkley, bart Houston was efficient, didn't turn the

468
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Speaker 3: ball over, They put up a number of yards. They

469
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Speaker 3: were better on third down than Penn State. But Penn

470
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Speaker 3: State's ability to generate plays downfield and just take the

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Speaker 3: wind out of Wisconsin's sales. I think it was their

472
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Speaker 3: first three drives in the second half were touchdowns, like

473
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Speaker 3: just to one after the other that wore down Penn

474
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Speaker 3: State's defense, excuse me, and Wisconsin's defense and demoralized them.

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Speaker 1: That was the difference since Penn State's renaissance after that

476
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Speaker 1: Michigan loss. They really truly have fashioned themselves a second

477
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Speaker 1: half kind of team. And I joked about it on Twitter,

478
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Speaker 1: but we saw it happen again in this one. Their

479
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: run started a little bit before half, but basically in

480
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: the final thirty two minutes of the football game, they

481
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: outscored wisconstant thirty one to three. And the story was

482
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Speaker 1: the play calling, less about the run, more about the

483
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Speaker 1: pass in particular, less about those ten yard hooks and

484
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: square outs that they were running in the first half,

485
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Speaker 1: and more about the bomb lulling them to sleep if

486
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: it were going deep baby trace mcs sorely. So, what

487
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Speaker 1: do you have three hundred and eighty four yards four touchdowns.

488
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Speaker 1: At one point in the game, he was nine for

489
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Speaker 1: nine with two hundred and forty one yards and four touchdowns.

490
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Speaker 1: HM he averaged about seventeen and a half per completion.

491
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Speaker 1: This is a really good game for him, a big

492
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Speaker 1: time national coming out party in a way that I

493
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Speaker 1: think defined him as one of the better quarterbacks in

494
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten and certainly a contributor as we move

495
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Speaker 1: forward now into twenty seventeen with Penn State, people are

496
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Speaker 1: excited about trace mcsorly.

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Speaker 3: You don't even need to do yards per completion. He

498
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: had twelve yards per attempt, and accuracy had been an

499
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Speaker 3: issue for him, but it was not against Wiscon. And

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Speaker 3: I do take on Bridge with one thing. You said,

501
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Speaker 3: one of the better quarterbacks in the Big Ten does

502
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Speaker 3: not given enough credit. He is the best thrower in

503
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Speaker 3: the Big Ten. Period. Yeah, anyway, that's my Opinionah.

504
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Speaker 1: So this was an impressive win for Penn State and

505
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Speaker 1: impressive come from behind win. I thought Wisconsin looked pretty

506
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Speaker 1: good for the most part. They obviously gave up a

507
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Speaker 1: lot of big passing plays, which was uncharacteristic for them.

508
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: Wisconsin's defense had not seen a quarterback and a second

509
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Speaker 3: half offense at least like Penn States. And I cannot

510
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: be stressed enough a great, great story.

511
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the number one team in the country.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Yes, the USC Trojans.

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Speaker 1: That's funny. In the preview, we kicked around the possibility

514
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Speaker 1: that Alabama might not try their hardest against Florida. They

515
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Speaker 1: were basically a shoe win for the playoffs.

516
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Speaker 3: Right, and who even knew if they did? Knows if

517
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Speaker 3: they did.

518
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Speaker 1: Can we be sure that they tried their hardest in

519
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: this game, Dan, Absolutely not. You can make a case

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Speaker 1: that they weren't trying and still won by thirty eight

521
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Speaker 1: over Florida.

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Speaker 3: They tried, They tried very hard. But it is we

523
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Speaker 3: have not yet seen Alabama in the back half of

524
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Speaker 3: the season against a good quarterback, and we did not

525
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: see it against Florida. And the cornerbacks had a field day.

526
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Speaker 3: The Alabama corners with Austin Appleby, and what he was

527
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: not able to do after the initial couple drives Alabama

528
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Speaker 3: is just you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

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Speaker 3: And that's what they did in every single phase. Eventually

530
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Speaker 3: on the ground they started stomping on them. I know

531
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Speaker 3: they they were pretty slow to begin with running the ball,

532
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: but the defense generated so much for the Tide, and

533
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Speaker 3: that just it makes it impossible as an opposing team

534
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Speaker 3: to generate any sort of momentum or get into any

535
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Speaker 3: sort of rhythm when you're throwing into not just teeth.

536
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Speaker 3: Is it sharks that have rows of teeth?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think that's the difference. And it's it's not that

539
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: their starters are so much better than every team starters.

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Speaker 3: It's that their third string is so much better than

541
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Speaker 3: your starters too. And what are you supposed to do?

542
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Speaker 3: You're not going to do it with Austin Appleby.

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Speaker 1: Can we focus on at least the first quarter.

544
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Speaker 3: Because that was fun?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Florida actually struck first. Indeed they struck first.

547
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Speaker 1: Gone are the halcyon days of no touchdown November for Alabama?

548
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: No no no five yard touchdown, Antonio Callaway. People are

549
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: tweeting us, I thought you said they weren't on the score.

550
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: We didn't think they would. We didn't think they would,

551
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: so like that, talk about a shot heard round the world.

552
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: Florida scoring on Bama. This is a big deal. First

553
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: quarter I thought was actually pretty fun Florida score is

554
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Speaker 1: the first touchdown on the past to Callaway. He then

555
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: threw another one about five minutes later, but only to

556
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Speaker 1: Mika Fitzpatrick from Alabama, a forty four yard a real

557
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: nice run by Mika Fitzpatrick. Bama then blocks a punt

558
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: runs that for a touchdown. The ensuing extra point was

559
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Speaker 1: blocked and returned for two points by Florida to finish

560
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Speaker 1: up the first quarter at sixteen to nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: After that, Dan, I haven't played this damn boat racing

563
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: sound all year, and I figure what better time to

564
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: play it than one final crock potting, one final act

565
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: of destruction for vern one twist in his final SEC

566
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: football game yesterday. Bama from that point forward goes on

567
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: a thirty eight to seven run. They hold Jordan Scarlett

568
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: to seventeen yards on eleven attempts as a team. If

569
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Speaker 1: you looked at the box score, Florida finished with exactly

570
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Speaker 1: zero rushing yards on thirty attempts.

571
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Speaker 3: And Alabama moves into the playoff as the prohibited favorite

572
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: to go home with more hardware.

573
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Speaker 1: Have we seen how big a favorite they are yet?

574
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Speaker 1: Over Washington?

575
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Speaker 3: What would your guests be? My guess would be to

576
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: be double digits, right, My.

577
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Speaker 1: Guess would be about somewhere in the seven to ten range.

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Speaker 3: It has opened at fourteen and has already gone up

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Speaker 3: to one one line fifteen on another fourteen and a half.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, wow, Okay.

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Speaker 3: A couple of touchdowns and Ohio State Clemson. Do you

582
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Speaker 3: have a guess?

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Speaker 1: I saw that Clemson is a three point dog? Actually correct, yep,

584
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Speaker 1: which is a little strange. Okay, So Alabama wins, they

585
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Speaker 1: are in. They are number one. The number two team

586
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Speaker 1: in your college football playoff is the Clemson Tigers. They

587
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Speaker 1: win forty two to thirty five. Did I call it

588
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Speaker 1: or did I not? That we would see a lot

589
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Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson on the ground in this game.

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Speaker 3: Well, you've also watched Clemson play football in big games.

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Speaker 1: I what credit?

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Speaker 3: You have? All the credit? Obviously Clemson's coaching staff was

593
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Speaker 3: listening to the show and said, huh, what time was on.

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Speaker 1: Of something I can send you? I can send you

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Speaker 1: an MP three whatever format you require.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, this is true.

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Speaker 1: This all's a shootout. A lot of points in this game.

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Speaker 1: Quietly a very fun game to watch that might have

599
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: been a bit overshadowed by the other one. But a

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Speaker 1: good game. Tech very easily could have mailed it in

601
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Speaker 1: after going down twenty one with four it's left in

602
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Speaker 1: the third quarter, but they didn't. They actually had a

603
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Speaker 1: chance to pull even in the final minutes. Stand My

604
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Speaker 1: initial thought while watching this game was that Clemson had

605
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Speaker 1: this one pretty well under wraps, like they were in

606
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Speaker 1: control for most of this football game right, like they

607
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: were in any real danger of losing. But then I

608
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: saw a play on like second and twenty with four

609
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Speaker 1: minutes left, where Clemson was deep in their own territory

610
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Speaker 1: and it seemed like they needed to make a play

611
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Speaker 1: to try and extend their drive, and they ran a

612
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Speaker 1: super conservative quarterback draw, And at that point I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, yeah, what are we looking at here? All

614
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they need to punt. It's a high punt,

615
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really go anywhere. Virginia Tech gets the ball at

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Speaker 1: the forty one yard line.

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Speaker 3: Which is something going conservative at that moment. That's something

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Speaker 3: we've seen from Dabo and Clems.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, so okay. Now, all of a sudden, Tech's

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Speaker 1: got the ball around four minutes left, They've got one

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Speaker 1: final drive. I have to get it done. They move

622
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Speaker 1: the chains a little bit here and there. Suddenly now

623
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling all right, this could kind of be a

624
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Speaker 1: real thing. Clemson stops them, they preserve the w but

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00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: definitely a hard fought victory for them, and I thought

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Speaker 1: a good showing for Virginia Tech, to say the least.

627
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very good showing for Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: And I think the big takeaway from this game, well,

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Speaker 3: there's a few of them, but one Virginia Tech's I

630
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: had a schedule.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that big time.

632
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Speaker 3: They already look like a top twelve to fifteen team.

633
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what they finished it in the rankings,

634
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: but they are they look to be. And I know

635
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: jordd Evans is a JC transfer, so I believe he'll

636
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: be back. But they look like they will give teams

637
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: in the ACC and beyond a lot of trouble and

638
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: you know, should threaten double digit wins consistently if they

639
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: play like this throughout the tenure of Justin Ooh. And

640
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: the other thing is when Wayne Golman cannot get going,

641
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: it is very difficult for Clemson to get comfortable consistently

642
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: away from decent teams like Virginia Tech. Very much is

643
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: and more Deshaun Watson was fairly clean, did not succeed

644
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: a ton down field, and that's the credit of Virginia

645
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: Tech's very good defense and bust. But what is it,

646
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: Bud Foster's blue color lunch pale defense. You got to

647
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: get lunch pale in there. Yeah, gotta get lunch pale

648
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: in there. But just an impressive performance from Clemson. They

649
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: made plays when it counted. They had the interception to

650
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: seal the game, and stopping this Clemson receiving corps is

651
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: not an easy task. It just between Mike Williams, Deon Kane,

652
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: Jordan Leggett, whoever. It takes a very good defense. And

653
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: I still feel really good about Clemson moving forward into

654
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: the playoff, that they are probably the team that we

655
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: could give Alabama the biggest game. But really really impressive

656
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Speaker 3: to close the season out like this after starting out

657
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Speaker 3: so sloppily.

658
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Speaker 1: I'd also add that Clemson's defensive line was just overpowering. Yeah,

659
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Speaker 1: I thought totally outclassed Virginia Tech's offensive line. It wasn't

660
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: all about sacks. It was about changing plays, about generating pressure,

661
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: fitting Evans for so the game that matters, and it

662
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: mattered last play of the game as it did the

663
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Speaker 1: first play of the game. Clemson was able to consistently

664
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Speaker 1: get some pressure, so they win, hard fought win, I

665
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: think a little closer than you might have thought if

666
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: you watched the early part of this game, but a

667
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: nice win for Clemson. They bubble up to number two

668
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: now and they will square off against Ohio.

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Speaker 3: State, who surely played somebody this weekend. Nope, okay, good.

670
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Speaker 1: Let's go back in time. Okay, doo bat Washington forty one,

671
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: Colorado ten dan.

672
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Speaker 3: Whoa, this might be the boat racing time we play again?

673
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Speaker 1: Played again?

674
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Speaker 3: Washington plays on a lake tye.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So look, first things first, this game set the

676
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: forward pass back about what fifty one hundred years? How

677
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: many years did it set it back?

678
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: It's a it's a different era now. Tie.

679
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Jake Browning's first five passes were so comically bad. Yeah,

680
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't know if it was like

681
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: a case of the yips, what what? He couldn't even

682
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: throw a spiral. They were like end over end.

683
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is This is one of the

684
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: difficulties in trying to fully understand what Washington is and

685
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: is not, because how many really good defenses did They

686
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: play two one and a half over the course of

687
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: the season. So it's very difficult to see what Jake

688
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: Browning can and can't do in those types of situations.

689
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: And Colorado with an excellent pass defense. You know, say

690
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: what you will about Colorado's offensive struggles and their inability

691
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: to stop the run at points in this game, but

692
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: they lock people down and Jake Browning struggled with that.

693
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: That aside, this was a dominant defensive effort by by

694
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: the Huskies. They held Colorado, oh yeah, to one hundred

695
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: and sixty three total yards. They picked off three passes

696
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: ugly passes.

697
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: Tie. It was ugly yeah.

698
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: Seyf Alufou got hurt pretty early in this one. He

699
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: rolled the same ankle that knocked him out of that

700
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: Michigan game. He did come back and play, but couldn't

701
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: use his legs as much as he has in recent weeks.

702
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: He wasn't nearly as effective. We both mentioned it in

703
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: the previews show. The difference in this game was the

704
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: running game. Eighty two total rushing yards for Colorado, two

705
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: sixty five for Washington. Miles Gaskin got most of the work,

706
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: but I was also really impressed by Levon Coleman. He

707
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: ran angry in this game.

708
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, there's a pretty significant argument that Levon

709
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: Coleman is the best running back on that roster, which

710
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: is also to say they have the best one to

711
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: two of running backs in the Pack twelve.

712
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: Colorado finishes the year ten and three Mike McIntyre, hell

713
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: of a job. Washington meanwhile, twelve to one, Pack twelve

714
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: champ just year three. Now under Chris Peterson, they are

715
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: through to the college football playoffs and a pretty hefty

716
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: dog against the Alabama Crimson Tide.

717
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, even if they get killed, I think you and

718
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: I are on sort of the same page. It's better

719
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: to be in the playoff and get killed, oh totally,

720
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: to play a winnable game in in a lesser bowl.

721
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: When you go to the playoff, it is a statement

722
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: both to the conference, to recruits and everything that you

723
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 3: are the alpha dog of your region. And no pun

724
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: intended for Washington. An unbelievable season for the Huskies, for

725
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: Jake Browning, Chris Peterson, for that defense, even without a

726
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: couple of big cogs in Joe Mathis and as the victor,

727
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: just a tremendous season and story. And unfortunately for Washington.

728
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 3: It was in a downpack twelve and not enough people

729
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: got to see Washington outside of that USC game.

730
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: Then the de facto Big twelve championship game, This one

731
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: was yesterday. Earlier in the day in Norman thirty eight

732
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: to twenty. The Sooners went out over the Cowboys. Oklahoma

733
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: State didn't put up much in the way of resistance,

734
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: at least the terms defense. Six point twenty nine in

735
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: total yardage allowed a really impressive effort I thought for

736
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: Oklahoma back and forth early was tied seventeen seventeen at half.

737
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State did muster up a rushing attack, like we

738
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: mentioned on Wednesday, with both Justice Hill and Chris Carson.

739
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: What they didn't do, though, Dan, was anything through the air.

740
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the struggle.

741
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph their best player, just eleven for twenty five.

742
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: They never got junk Yard Gym or Jalen McCleskey going.

743
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: They only had four combined catches for sixty six yards,

744
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: and most of that came on a forty four yarder.

745
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: Oklahoma really just bating the hatches in terms of pass defense,

746
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: and I thought that was ultimately what brought Oklahoma stay

747
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: down here.

748
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Back and forth, but not tremendously exciting first half.

749
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: Ten punts between the two teams in the first half.

750
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: Oklahoma really not able to get much going through the

751
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: air in the first half. Of that is in large

752
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: part to having what could be the best receiver in

753
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: the country and Dede Westbrook leave the game and not

754
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: come back with concussion like symptoms. I believe that's what

755
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 3: it was. And then shift to the second half and say, oh,

756
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: we have Joe Mixon and samaj p Ryan and let's

757
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: just see if they can get to the edge. No

758
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: they can't. Okay, let's see if they can this time. No,

759
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: they still can't. And then you just xerox that over

760
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: and over and over again. So they come out, it's

761
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: the final drive in the second half, they score on

762
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: the longer play, and then they open up the second

763
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: half with a couple of touchdowns, And that was sort

764
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: of that. If Oklahoma State was not able to adjust,

765
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: they did a good job against the running the first half,

766
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: But if the Pokes were not able to adjust in

767
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: the second half, Oklahoma should be and was all too

768
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: happy to just keep running it directly by them again.

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Speaker 1: Your final thirty eight to twenty. Oklahoma's defense stepped up,

770
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: and so did Baker Mayfield when he had to thirteen

771
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: of nineteen two eighty eight three touchdowns. He did announce

772
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: that he's returning for his final season next year. Yeah.

773
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: Was there a whole lot of doubt around that. I

774
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: couldn't really tell you. But he is going to be back,

775
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: which is great because he's a lot of fun to

776
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: watch and cover.

777
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how much more he has left

778
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 3: to prove. He will prob I don't know if he's

779
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: going to be a Heusman finalist by the time we

780
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: released this. We may know, but he was last year.

781
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: He put up video game numbers this year. I'd imagined

782
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: that will continue next year. But hey, let's playing for

783
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: Oklahoma or to fault them.

784
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: All Right, We've got the MAC, the American, the Mountain

785
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786
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787
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Speaker 1: Where should we go next?

821
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Speaker 3: If we want to skip around quickly, we should mention

822
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Speaker 3: that Alabama is not the only undefeated FBS team. Row

823
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Speaker 3: that boat. Western Michigan Friday night wins late against Ohio

824
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: in the championship game and PJ Fleck completes. P J

825
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: Fleck and the Broncos complete an incredibly impressive season, going

826
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Speaker 3: undefeated and find themselves in the Cotton Bowl. And it

827
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: was not dominant, I would say against Ohio, but they

828
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 3: able to force some turnovers. And hey, Western Michigan going

829
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: from whatever it was one in ten, one eleven to

830
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: thirteen to zero. That's not easy, unbelievably.

831
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Speaker 1: Not too shabby. Yeah, they win twenty nine to twenty three.

832
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Speaker 1: Big game, by the way for Corey Davis. This is

833
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: a name that I want everyone to remember when it

834
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: comes time to picking fantasy teams next year. You heard

835
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Speaker 1: it here, eighty fifth. That's right, he's going to be

836
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Speaker 1: a first round pick. Yeah, he's got the size, he's

837
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Speaker 1: got the skills. He's going to be real good at

838
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Speaker 1: the next level. And speaking of next levels, dan is PJ.

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Speaker 1: Fleck in a coach at organ.

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Speaker 3: I from what I've heard, now what i've heard, i'd

841
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: listen by the time this publishers could be incredibly wrong.

842
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 3: It does not sound like he will end up in Eugene.

843
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, I'm confident Oregon will make some sort of

844
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: bad higher. Kansas State ran all the hell, yeah, we

845
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: see you. Not a good day in any phase for TCU,

846
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: particularly not for Foster Sawyer sailor Spy who comes in.

847
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: It was just, you know, it's wizardry from Bill Snyder.

848
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: Eight and four run over TCU. No Power five team

849
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Speaker 3: in the state of Texas finishes with the winning record

850
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: in conference play. So that includes Texas A and M

851
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: going four and four. UTSA and Houston are the lone

852
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: FBS teams to go and win games more so than

853
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: not in the conference play in the Great State of Texas.

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Speaker 1: Before you go on, you know what's unique about Kansas

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Speaker 1: State's eight and four.

856
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: What's that?

857
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: K State won eight games without beating a single team

858
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: that finished with a winning record. I'm telling you, wizard,

859
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: couple teams on there that went six and six.

860
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: If there's a weird way to do something.

861
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Speaker 1: No team with more wins and losses.

862
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Speaker 3: Just an odd year in the mid Southwest whatever I

863
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: mentioned Troy losing to Georgia Southern after a super start.

864
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 3: Troy has a chance at the end, but Georgia Southern

865
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Speaker 3: at five and seven takes the game. We've got a

866
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Speaker 3: huge shootout in Conference USA.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how about this one?

868
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Speaker 3: Western Kentucky WKU Jeff Brown with another ridiculous season. They

869
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Speaker 3: beat l Tech, who's had also a huge year. Skip Holtz,

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Speaker 3: I know you've got close, intimate emotional tize to Skip Holtz.

871
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: Sort of a big yeah, sort of. Here's here's the

872
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: game I want to talk about in terms of conference championship.

873
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: Just very briefly, Navy's quarterback goes down Wilworth Temple and

874
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 3: just the defense stomps all over Navy. A Navy team

875
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: who would come in with incredible momentum Temple ten and

876
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: three Matt rule owl. It's a great year.

877
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: It was a great year. I need to play this sown.

878
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 7: Man.

879
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: What a beat down here. It was over two minutes

880
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: into the second quarter.

881
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: So much for the Navy. Could screw everything up if

882
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: they beat Temple and beat Army.

883
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that went away very quickly.

884
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 3: Anything. I mean, Matt Rule will probably be coaching Temple

885
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: next year.

886
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: I think he's probably coaching Temple next year, and then

887
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: that that's probably it. He's got a PJ flex quality

888
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: to him that I think will be coaching somewhere bigger

889
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: and more in the spotlight at some point within the

890
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: next eighteen months.

891
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: And this is also Temple that's playing better teams than

892
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: they ever played when they were going to and ten

893
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 3: every year to whatever. Totally, So it's under the radar

894
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: because Houston got a lot of the Group of Five

895
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: than Western Michigan. But hell of a year for Temple.

896
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: You know who their first game is against next year?

897
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: Who's that?

898
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: Notre Dame of course throwing?

899
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: Can I can I take the points just like now?

900
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: Well in advance? Can I can I get some money

901
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: on that?

902
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: I get action if he can, let me know, because

903
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm in with you.

904
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: West Virginia super ugly win over Baylor. But that was

905
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: sort of to be expected quarterback play. A phrase we

906
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 3: both like, less than idea, Yeah, less than I deal here.

907
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: But Justin Crawford continues his just unbelievable few weeks. He

908
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: had the three hundred whatever yards against Oklahoma. He goes

909
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: for over two hundred against a Baylor defense. Arkansas State quietly,

910
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: I know they started to two or owen three or

911
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: something like that, but they finished seven and one in

912
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: the Sun Belt and they finished that out against it.

913
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a bad Texas State team. Did you

914
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 3: watch any of San Diego State Wyoming?

915
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: I saw some of the highlights.

916
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: Did you see the punt? Yeah, seventy five yard punt.

917
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: That was incredible.

918
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to take the highlights where you can

919
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: get them. But a very nice year for San Diego

920
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: State and a couple of weeks ago disappointing loss, but

921
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: they finished with ten games, ten wins, and went out

922
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: in the Mountain West. So just it's quality all around.

923
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: And even though it sort of appears like we're in

924
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: a feudal time with Alabama just mowing everybody down this

925
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: year had secretly and I used that phrase because I'm

926
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: about to talk about the Pitt Panthers, a lot of

927
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: really entertaining games and.

928
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: Stories, big time and big time pitt is.

929
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: This year's Minnesota was two years ago, the team that

930
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 3: was never going to be in the playoff but somehow

931
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: affected things to an extreme degree. Yeah, secretly relevant, pitt.

932
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've changed the course of things here in twenty sixteen, Dan,

933
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: the City East.

934
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: I have two more things. I don't know if you

935
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: wanted to just talk like as friends, but two more

936
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: things related to college football, because I'm always down for

937
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: friend talk. Ty, I'm always down for that, you know.

938
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: That, guy, What do you go? What do you got?

939
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: We got a bunch of ball games, Yes, if that's

940
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: okay with you to talk about.

941
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. People ask, how do you guys

942
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: do with the ballgames? What's the plan here for the

943
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: verbal You guys going to go off the ye, We're

944
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: not going to go off the air. We never go

945
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: off the air. That's part of our problem. But we

946
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: are going to be doing two shows a week all

947
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: throughout December, all throughout really this whole postseason until we

948
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: get to the National Championship game, and then we're going

949
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: to figure it out from there. We'll probably go once

950
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: a week, but in the meantime, we will be previewing

951
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: and talking about all these Bowl games. I don't even

952
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: know how many there are, but we're going to be

953
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: doing it in like waves of eight or nine, and

954
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: we will have a Bowl confidence pool, as we do

955
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: every year. So if you'd like just stay tuned to

956
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: our Facebook page, our Twitter account, pretty much anywhere you

957
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: can find us, we're going to post a link so

958
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: that you can get in on that bullpool and compete

959
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: for fabulous prizes.

960
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: So fabulous.

961
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: With that being said, what kind of matchups are we

962
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 1: looking at? You already mentioned like the New Year six

963
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: what we met.

964
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 3: So we talk about fans of quarterback play and ty

965
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: have I got good news for you? Come on, feel it?

966
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: Feel it? CJ. Bethard, Austin Applebee. No, yeah, that's happening

967
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: in the Outback Bowl Louisville LSU actually is incredible. I'm

968
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: really have that this is happening because these are two

969
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: really good teams. But again, we're talking about a Purdue transfer.

970
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: We've got Georgia Tech Kentucky, which sure, okay great At

971
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: this time, I do not see who Tennessee is going

972
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: to be playing in the music City Bowl, but Tennessee

973
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: is going to be in the Music City Bowl, so

974
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: a disappointment if you're a Tennessee fan. What your impression

975
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: of this team probably was. It looks like North Carolina

976
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 3: is going to be in the Sun Bowl, which generally

977
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: is entertaining unless it isn't. We've had some really unentertaining

978
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: games in alpat say.

979
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: That about the Sun Ball, Dan, I.

980
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: Know, I apologize. I'm looking forward to the Alamo Bowl

981
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: because we have Colorado and Oklahoma State, so that's inside.

982
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: Hopefully we have a healthy, safe Lulufou. Hopefully we have

983
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: Junkyard Jim Washington against a really good pass defense Virginia

984
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: Tech Arkansas. Man, I'm not particularly excited about how good

985
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: the SEC is at their bowl alignments because Okay, USF

986
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: is taking on a team in the SEC and the

987
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: Birmingham Ball. We'll see what happens. We talk about the

988
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: most secretly relevant team Pitt coming to New York. Who

989
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: are they playing Clayton Thorson? Wow in the Northwestern Wildcats? Okay,

990
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: Russell Athletic Bowl. I actually am looking forward to Miami

991
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: West Virginia.

992
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: That should be a pretty good game.

993
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: I think Miami had an underrated season. They had a

994
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: run of particularly poor offensive performances against the better teams

995
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: on their schedule, but all in all encouraging, especially on

996
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: defense in West Virginia certainly puts up a ton of

997
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 3: points in yardage. Baylor, Boise State and the Cactus Bowl.

998
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: That line might be one hundred and I'd still go Boise.

999
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's the right move. Would have

1000
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: liked a better matchup for Temple to see what they

1001
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: could do against a good team. And it's been a

1002
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: good year, but it's still Wake in the Military Bowl,

1003
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 3: Mississippi State and Miami of Ohio, which should be pointed

1004
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: out that is Starkville against Oxford, just Oxford, Ohio. That

1005
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: was Jason Kirk. I saw that there Ohio Troy in

1006
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: the Dollar General Bowl, Louisiana Tech, Navy, Eastern Michigan ODU,

1007
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 3: which is a matchup of really good stories. And they're

1008
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: playing in the Bahamas Bowl, which listen, Ti, we have

1009
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 3: a Bahamas Bowl. Yeah, we have Colorado State, Idaho in

1010
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: the famous Idaho Potato Bowl if it's still called that.

1011
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 3: So some blue turf and maybe the last time of

1012
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: blue turf for Idaho. B Yu, Wyoming, I think that

1013
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: would be pretty good. Is it still San Diego Credit

1014
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 3: County Point Sedia Bowl? May? But it is the point

1015
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 3: Setia tell us the Central Michigan should be fun. That's

1016
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: in the Miami Beach Bowl, Houston, San Diego State. I

1017
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 3: love that this is happening. That's going to be in

1018
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 3: the Vegas Bowl? Is that still royal purple? Well? Who knows?

1019
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 3: Toledo app State is actually an excellent app State team

1020
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: against an excellent Solito quarterback. And the Chamellia Bowl that's

1021
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: in Montgomery, Alabama, December seventeenth. They just start earlier every

1022
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: single season UCF Arkansas State, good story in UCF. They

1023
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: go winless in twenty third, twenty excuse me, twenty fifteen

1024
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: in Scott Frost's first year taking on Blake Anderson and

1025
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: good Arkansas State team UTSA a nice enough story against

1026
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: New Mexico and the fighting Bob Davies. Yeah, and finally

1027
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 3: I have la laugh you Louisiana, You Louisiana, Lafayette Southern

1028
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: miss in the New Orleans Ball also December seventeenth, So

1029
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 3: some team's gonna be filling in and should be noted

1030
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: I did not use the word Oregon or the words

1031
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: notre and dame.

1032
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: Surely you must have made a mistake. We'll have to

1033
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: go back over and add that in post. My one

1034
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: other thing to you, tie, Yes, there's more. You have

1035
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: to this point neglected to mention what I would say

1036
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: is inarguably your favorite part of the college football season.

1037
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: And we had some scholarship tosses yesterday.

1038
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: Oh yes, and here is here is my opinion. You

1039
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: play to win the game. You don't get money for

1040
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 3: throwing the ball in a better looking fashion. Chess pass

1041
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: for life or move it back.

1042
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: They need to regulate this need to go overhand?

1043
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 3: What about just above the waist? So it's no underhand.

1044
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: It needs to it needs to be. It can't be underhand,

1045
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: and it can't be chess pass.

1046
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: Why can't it be chess passed?

1047
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: Hi, I don't like a chess pass.

1048
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: You dunk your hot dogs in the water if you

1049
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 3: want to win the hot dog eating contests. This isn't

1050
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 3: a football throwing contest, Hi.

1051
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: It is a football throwing contest.

1052
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: They're throwing footballs, does it? It's not. It's not a

1053
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: football throw contest. It is a it's not a contest.

1054
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Kick What you're saying.

1055
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: That is what I'm saying.

1056
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: What is Doctor Pepper's ad spend on a weekend like this?

1057
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: By the way, because I don't see any other Doctor

1058
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: Pepper ads until conference championship week.

1059
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: Well that's not true. You watched Larry Culpeper and the

1060
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: Stupid I know his name because I've seen so many

1061
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: of their stupid ads.

1062
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: Larry Culpeper true story, walks around in full regalia at

1063
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: the media hotel.

1064
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he'll do interviews.

1065
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: He'll do interviews. You want to do interviews with them.

1066
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: And you remember who the spokesperson for Doctor Pepper in

1067
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 3: college football was before that actor.

1068
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: Was that Pitbull.

1069
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,959
Speaker 3: It was Pitbull, and it was we were all having

1070
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 3: a real good time. Yeah, and they had to go

1071
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: and ruin it. I'm I'm totally okay with how they

1072
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: do it. And this also brings to mind I am

1073
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: considering and I'm going to tell you right now on

1074
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: the show because there's no way. I don't think she

1075
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: can make it happen. I think you might pass out

1076
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: if on your birthday the solid wife Kate led you

1077
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: to whatever backyard area you have and there was a

1078
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: giant inflatable Doctor Pepper throwing I think you would. I

1079
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: think you would hyper ventilate and that would be the

1080
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: greatest gift that you would ever receive.

1081
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put that in my basement.

1082
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: So that's what we have. We had the Doctor Pepper

1083
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 3: throw that was the most accurate throw from the Florida

1084
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 3: side in the SEC championship.

1085
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: Pretty much. Yeah, I love those. Anything else, No, that's it.

1086
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: That's all I got.

1087
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Speaker 3: We got a lot to talk about in the coming

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Speaker 3: few weeks.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: we are going to be going twice. We were going

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Speaker 1: to preview all these bowl games. Maybe not right before

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Speaker 1: they are set to happen, some might be a couple

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Speaker 1: weeks in advance. But we are going to take the

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Speaker 1: time to make sure we talk about each and every

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Speaker 1: one of these football games. And we will be down

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Speaker 1: in Campbell, Florida. Yeah, do keep it here on the

1097
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Speaker 1: solid verbal again, we've got a playoff. Your top four

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Speaker 1: is Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and the Washington Huskies. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: to all those teams and fan bases. Thank you as

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Speaker 1: always for listening to the show. For that guy over there,

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty hilden Brand,

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Speaker 1: Thanks again. We'll catch it in a few days, and

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Speaker 1: by all means stay solid, hey,