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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting alongside my trusted colleague West Hodkuits.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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Speaker 1: Field and West. It's our final show of the week

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Speaker 1: as we preview Packers Jets Sunday noon Central time kickoff

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Speaker 1: from the Big Tin Can in East Rutherford, New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the week here that means

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Speaker 1: keys to victory. So with the Jets at four and

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Speaker 1: ten the Packers at five, eight and one, where do

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Speaker 1: you want to start with? But make it real easy

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Speaker 1: for you, Michael, Okay, The Green Bay Packers need to

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Speaker 1: stop Sam Donald. They need to pressure Sam Donald. They

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Speaker 1: need to be able to take away the football from

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. The big reason why year one, he's a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. That's what the game's like in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Even these guys that are going to have really bright careers,

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Speaker 1: we know how difficult it is making that jump from

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Speaker 1: the college level to the NFL. Donald's numbers are pretty

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Speaker 1: distinctly different when you look at the games in which

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Speaker 1: they won with him as a starting quarterback. They are

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Speaker 1: three and one right now with him if he's gone

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Speaker 1: over an ad passer rating, they are o N six

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Speaker 1: with him as a starting quarterback when they fall beneath that.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen touchdowns, fifteen interceptions on the season, fifty six point

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Speaker 1: seven accuracy on his passes, so it's been a trying

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Speaker 1: season for him as they try to find themselves offensively.

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Speaker 1: They obviously already lost Isaiah Kwel for the season. He's

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Speaker 1: out um. Offensively, they're trying to find themselves in as

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Speaker 1: an identity. It seems like they're getting back home with

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Speaker 1: Robby Anderson and being able to get him going again.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the numbers are

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Speaker 1: what they are. They don't lie. The Packers need to

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Speaker 1: be able to take away the football from Sam Donald. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Packers have to be careful in

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Speaker 1: the sense of we've been talking all week long about

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Speaker 1: the Packers motivations and wanting to finish strong and guys

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Speaker 1: wanting to be the pros that they are. I think

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Speaker 1: the Packers have to be careful not to us underestimated

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Speaker 1: just how motivated this Jets tea could possibly be. Because

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Speaker 1: when you talk about Sam Donald, this is a rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback who no matter what the Jets record is, he

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Speaker 1: is taking the field every single time to prove I

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Speaker 1: am the future of the franchise. I am the leader

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Speaker 1: of the franchise. I need to live up to what

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Speaker 1: this organization has invested in me with that very very

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Speaker 1: high draft pick from last spring. And we saw last

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Speaker 1: week the Houston Texans fell asleep a little bit. They

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Speaker 1: got they got a sizeable lead, couple score lead, fell

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Speaker 1: off the pace, so to speak. The Jets came all

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Speaker 1: the way back on them and took the lead. Now

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Speaker 1: that that was potentially a loss that would that would

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Speaker 1: damage Houston's you know, playoff seating, playoff picture and everything.

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Speaker 1: They got their act together in time to still and

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Speaker 1: come back and win the game. But these rookie quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and I don't care if you're talking about Josh Rosen

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Speaker 1: and Arizona who the Packers saw a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: or Sam Donald. Here with the Jets, this is going

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Speaker 1: to be a motivated club, even though all the writing

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Speaker 1: out the door. Um the Jets are. The Jets are

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Speaker 1: out to play every week, and they're out to beat

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Speaker 1: you because because they are playing for the future with

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Speaker 1: this quarterback. Well, and this is what I'm most interested

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Speaker 1: to see. What Donald going into this game is a

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Speaker 1: fact that statistically he's coming off a good performance against

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Speaker 1: the Texans thirty eight passing for two fifty three, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: no turnovers in that ball game for him, that's a

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Speaker 1: real solid effort against a playoff team. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: only the third time this year he's not had a

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Speaker 1: turnover in a game, So that that's a great performance. Now,

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Speaker 1: how do you follow that up after you lose that game?

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Speaker 1: Does that further motivate you to be able to come

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Speaker 1: out now you're you know, defend your home turf after

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Speaker 1: So I think that seeing that specific, we can talk

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Speaker 1: But I think this game ultimately will be decided and

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Speaker 1: how Mike Petton making his return to New York, how

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Speaker 1: and when I look at this from a bigger picture perspective,

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Speaker 1: end the season winless on the road, and all of

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Speaker 1: that and what that can mean for the young guys,

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Speaker 1: especially the rookie class. In the locker room, we discussed

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Speaker 1: all of that. You know, really for the Packers, it

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Speaker 1: comes down to avoiding those lulls in the game, those

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Speaker 1: do is look at last week's game against Chicago, late

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Speaker 1: second quarter the scores seven to three. The Packers have

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Speaker 1: From second and three. You have an incomplete pass and

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Speaker 1: at the same time the offense is just let you down.

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Speaker 1: So instead of seven to six, you're down fourteen to

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Speaker 1: three at the half. The same thing happened in the

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Speaker 1: but the offense goes three and out a huge letdown. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's how the Packers always find themselves behind, playing with

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Speaker 1: You've got to find a way to stem the tide

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Speaker 1: in those situations, whether it's converting on that third down

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Speaker 1: these significant dips in play where the momentum just completely

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I really do go back to that

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Speaker 1: It just seems like it seems like the letdowns, the

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Speaker 1: it and uh, and it's really the biggest reason the

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams talked about it after the game too. There's

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Speaker 1: And also the standpoint of it, I'm not taking anything

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Speaker 1: they've outlined it, they've talked about it. They know where

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Speaker 1: They have two more chances to do so at this

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Speaker 1: I can't I can't remember a Packers team I've covered

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Speaker 1: an inexcusable one. But this team has one its share

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Speaker 1: just quickly eyeballing it. It looked like two thousand five

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Speaker 1: to you've got to hurry Darnald you've got to get

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