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Speaker 1: a kicker this had an un characteristic season, like Greg,

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Speaker 1: when when you're at this point going into the postseason,

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Speaker 1: is it more just about making sure he's fine mentally

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Speaker 1: I think we're at the point now where there's a

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Speaker 1: few things that he knows how to tighten something up

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Speaker 1: you know, seventeen games in and he missed all that preseason,

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Speaker 1: of course, but I think it is just psychological and

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Speaker 1: there's actually something we're gonna do to help him out

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Speaker 1: a little bit um that we talked about. So but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest part is just having a confidence

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Speaker 1: that this thing is going right down the middle of

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Speaker 1: Every time when a player misses extra points, how different

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Speaker 1: is your coaching perspective on what you're looking at relative

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Speaker 1: to a miss field core? Uh? Not really not much

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Speaker 1: difference except obviously two points difference between the one and

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Speaker 1: the three. But um, yeah, you don't you don't want

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Speaker 1: to see any of them go outside of it. You

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Speaker 1: don't think, Oh so just a pt it's only one point,

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Speaker 1: you know, Okay, in a field goal different I think.

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Speaker 1: I think, look, I look at every kick, a pat

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Speaker 1: used to be. But if still, you know, for Greg

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Speaker 1: got to do it. He knows it, and I have

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Speaker 1: full confidence that he will. You know, there was a

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Speaker 1: season I've been two fifteen where he was you know,

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Speaker 1: been around Greg enough to to see him go through

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Speaker 1: the valley and then rebound, and every time that that's happened,

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Speaker 1: he's he's rebounded. So I see no reason why I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be different this time for kind of the same

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Speaker 1: reason as you kind of get cold. But in terms

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Speaker 1: we're always going to be the same distance first field goals.

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Speaker 1: corrections for a player need to be different in that regard? No,

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Speaker 1: to answer your question in a better way, But I

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Speaker 1: think every kick is the same, whether it's a pat

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Speaker 1: You know, I think great approach. Is it the same

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Speaker 1: regardless of it's a you know, a twenty two yard

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Speaker 1: his mindset is the same on all those kicks. I

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Speaker 1: Just something that you know, I think, um psychologically might

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