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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in is dj n V Charlamagne the Guy. We

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Speaker 2: all the Breakfast Club and we got some special guests.

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Speaker 3: In the belloty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed we have Angela Rye all right to a cross,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Gillen, Welcome, what's up everybody?

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year? How you feeling the Internet caused him?

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Speaker 3: Destiny fulfilled? Now we're death Throat.

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Speaker 4: Did you hear that it's giving death Throat?

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Speaker 1: I was like, I appreciate that because of their plumbing pictures.

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Speaker 3: For what they're here to talk about their new podcast,

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Speaker 3: native Land Native Land Podcast?

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Speaker 2: Well, how did you three get together? They decide to

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Speaker 2: do this podcast.

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Speaker 5: Long before the podcast. Actually, we've all known each other.

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Speaker 5: Angela and I've known Angela almost my whole adult life.

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Speaker 5: I think we met when I was like twenty three,

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Speaker 5: twenty four, right when we both moved to DC. Angela

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Speaker 5: and Andrew already knew each other. And Andrew and I met.

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Speaker 6: Through the years CBC mostly yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: But you're also like in DC a lot doing things,

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Speaker 5: and so it was really organic the way our friendship

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Speaker 5: came together. And Angela had this vision of doing the

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Speaker 5: podcast and reached out to both of us. And when

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Speaker 5: Angela calls, my sister calls always say yes.

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Speaker 6: So what was your vision?

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Speaker 1: He said?

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Speaker 3: Everybody has a different perspective of how they met. How

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Speaker 3: do y'all meet Angela? And yeah, I'm saying Angela's story

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Speaker 3: probably different.

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Speaker 1: We don't remember.

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Speaker 6: I don't remember.

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Speaker 7: I don't remember how I met.

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Speaker 4: If I can say that there are the two of

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Speaker 4: my oldest and longest friends in d C.

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Speaker 7: When I moved to d C.

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Speaker 4: The two people that I associate with d C have

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Speaker 4: Ohio connections, and that's Tiffany Crossing, Stephanie Brown James.

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Speaker 7: So I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: With Andrew, I think the funny story is his best

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Speaker 4: friend is my ex boyfriend.

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Speaker 7: So but somehow, but.

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Speaker 4: But somehow, but somehow I kept him and let the

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Speaker 4: other would go. Everybody comfortable family him and him and

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Speaker 4: r J his lovely bride and his kids now are

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Speaker 4: like my niece, my niece and nephews.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, what about you.

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Speaker 1: Ag I met?

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Speaker 8: Well, of course I heard about Angela through my best friend.

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Speaker 8: Shout out to Chris uh Daddy rest in peace. And

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Speaker 8: Angela was the person I mean, honestly, if I if

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Speaker 8: you asked me, then if we would ever be working together,

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Speaker 8: it would have been like a hard stop no because

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Speaker 8: both a type. She really didn't ask what you wanted.

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Speaker 8: You should have directed everything to tell you Chris needed

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Speaker 8: to be directed. But so that worked for them, But

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Speaker 8: I didn't feel like but we we had an instant

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter.

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Speaker 8: And to see Angela change the culture for young professionals

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Speaker 8: on with other young Dane has live, but they lives

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Speaker 8: on through those who will continue her work and to

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Speaker 8: come to this podcast. I think what is particularly special

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Speaker 1: With each other.

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Speaker 8: It is that very few people want to enter your

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Speaker 8: atmosphere when they think you are radioactive. Maybe you're radioactive cooling,

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Speaker 1: Very hard to find the first.

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Speaker 8: Person, the first entity, the first whatever to enter that phray.

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Speaker 8: And what makes Angela's invitation I think to me and

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Speaker 8: I imagine if you may feel in some ways the same,

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Speaker 8: is that all the hardships had somehow reached alchemy that

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Speaker 8: horrific that you're still mourning and grieving and triggered by

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Speaker 8: you have to be thankful for it all. It got

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Speaker 8: us to this point where I think we can affect

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Speaker 8: lives by helping to change and expand pupiple's perspective about

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Speaker 8: the power they have, how they use it to achieve

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Speaker 8: a meaningful political and which for me ultimately is our liberation,

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Speaker 8: our true freedom, where we get to move how we

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Speaker 3: With that said, who determines if you're radioactive? Though? Because

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of times we might care more

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Speaker 6: It might just be you know, society at large. I

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Speaker 6: think social media can be harsh them.

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Speaker 1: I agree this morning.

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Speaker 2: But she's right because the social media creates the noise y.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes it can penetrate lazy journalism and drive how

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Speaker 5: newsrooms treat you and how they speak.

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Speaker 6: So and sometimes it like they say, be your own people.

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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes people who you.

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Speaker 5: Thought were your friend were not at that time. And

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Speaker 5: in the time of fire, I would say, when my

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Speaker 2: Instead of chelamone much.

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Speaker 5: It was not Charlemagne's fault at all, for the record,

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Speaker 5: but you could not reach me, like you literally had

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Speaker 5: to go through Angela to get to me. Like Angela,

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Speaker 5: get on a plane, come to Atlanta, and we were

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Speaker 5: like together non stop. And you know, you notice who's

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Speaker 5: slow to return your phone calls because they're playing the

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Speaker 5: feckless leaders who uphold white supremacy instead of people who

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Speaker 6: But we're always with you in sisterhood.

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Speaker 5: And so I think you have three people here who

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Speaker 5: the fire. But Andrew, I want Andrew to say the

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Speaker 5: advice he gave because I can be a petty bitch,

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Speaker 5: you know, And it's like I don't stuck with that

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Speaker 5: he makes about expecting, like acceptance and expecting and it's

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Speaker 5: like you are expecting I'm gonna mess it up but

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Speaker 5: you are expecting a hyena to act like a lion

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Speaker 6: So you just setting yourself up for disappointment.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean, I so the point about I think

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Speaker 8: I think to your earlier question of who decides when

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Speaker 8: you're radioactive, you know that phoenix rising is much more

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Speaker 8: emblematic and representative of what the everyday lived experiences are

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Speaker 8: of the people whose voices really do matter. They are

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Speaker 8: the majority, they're silent in so many ways. But this

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Speaker 8: whole flash point, you know, highlight real society we've become

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Speaker 8: and when inappropriately applied, canceling of folks because not of

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Speaker 8: a I mean anything real legitimate is because I disagree

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Speaker 8: who well, the Boston Tea Party, you know, insurrection against

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Speaker 8: So you defended those people, and there's something wrong with

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Speaker 1: Tiffany, I'm so sorry I got off the track.

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Speaker 8: But the point I was trying to make was going

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Speaker 8: through these kinds of things, me the trial, everything that

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Speaker 8: assumed that people who benefited financially personally, who got their

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Speaker 8: doing as you were opened, because you refused to do

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Speaker 8: business with people who did not hire employee, respect the

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Speaker 8: I thought, because of my presence for them, forget what

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Speaker 8: it meant to lead and represent it as a mayor

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Speaker 8: on and so forth. But commission who in a cmuson

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Speaker 3: You couldn't have thought they were your real friend though?

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Speaker 8: No, No, I absolutely thought that these were people who

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Speaker 8: have you if you pull back the layers. I'm not

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Speaker 8: sure how why do you go with all your circle

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Speaker 1: Everybody a friend.

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Speaker 8: But these are people had put on a friend list

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Speaker 8: after scrutiny, and expect that they're going to be there

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Speaker 8: and I'm just finding his heart. No, it's because the

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Speaker 8: and I'm standing with him in the gap until somebody

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Speaker 8: I have grace when none of that shows up. Lonely, angry, mad.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's for the birds. I'm just so thankful

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Speaker 8: God revealed for me people in my life who would

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Speaker 8: I understand how that happens. But their reaction was simply

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Speaker 8: They didn't know that perform differently. They didn't know to

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Speaker 1: What they did was they.

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Speaker 8: Retreated their safety and security because if they can take

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Speaker 5: And as the intention of it, that is the intention

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Speaker 5: like if these negresses get too out of hand. We

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Speaker 5: mass consumers out there, don't do the conservative white man's

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Speaker 5: spreading salacious things on the internet to get likes, stop

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Speaker 5: spreading lots.

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Speaker 6: Like they expect you to do that.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna spong feed this to you because we know

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Speaker 5: that you will be the person to carry this to

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Speaker 5: the community, whether it be right wing talking points or

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Speaker 5: an effort to take out one of your leaders.

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Speaker 2: But what you said earlier is lazy journalism and in

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Speaker 2: the fact that people don't want to actually read, they

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Speaker 2: it bother you that it's a lot of times in

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Speaker 2: both your situations in Angela as well, where it's the

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Speaker 2: people that look like you that's attacking you more.

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Speaker 5: It is a problem. That is a problem. Part of

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Speaker 5: it is I think social media, which just erodes intellect

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Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. Read a paper and stop

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Speaker 5: scrolling through Instagram looking at nonsense. But also even as

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Speaker 5: it impacts lazy journalism, look, the oppressor does not have

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Speaker 5: That is who they are catering to the news centers,

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Speaker 5: is a lie. That is not true, right.

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Speaker 4: It's definitely not true on Native Lampow where there are

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Speaker 4: three black voys who will be talking about our issues

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Speaker 4: every week.

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Speaker 3: I just want to and Lardy gave me to look

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Speaker 3: like motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like we can go in And I think the

447
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Speaker 4: main thing for us to know is this is radio.

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Speaker 4: We want people to tune into the podcast. We want

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Speaker 4: them to do that every week. It's dropping every single Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Native Lamb Pie. Yeah, I'm going to tell you right now,

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Speaker 4: you're going to like I've been talking for fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 7: But no, it was.

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Speaker 4: There's a stanza in James Weldon Johnson's lift every voice

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Speaker 4: and sing true to our God, true to our native land.

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Speaker 4: And I think that the conundrum that many of us

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Speaker 4: find ourselves in is we know that this isn't our

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Speaker 4: original birthplace, This isn't our origin story, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: It is the continent, but a lot of us have

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Speaker 4: never been there. We have been fortunate to go, but

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Speaker 4: a lot of us haven't been there. But this has

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Speaker 4: become our native land. This has because we become our

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Speaker 4: home base, because our folks built this. I say, we

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Speaker 4: built this joint for free, and then moreover because of

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Speaker 4: the lack of safety that Tiff has referenced and that

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Speaker 4: Andrew's reference. We wanted at home base for our folks

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Speaker 4: to come to every single week. And so when we

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Speaker 4: say Native Lampid, we also say welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 2: That was gonna ask with the podcast, are you doing

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Speaker 2: the podcast live every week or is it going to

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Speaker 2: be pre taped so you're going to be talking about

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Speaker 2: what's going on in the world, especially to shit because

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Speaker 2: it's election.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And just really quickly, the other point that Angela

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Speaker 5: referenced when coming up with this name is an homage

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Speaker 5: to the indigenous community. Yes, here we recognize that this

477
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Speaker 5: land was stolen and taking America wasn't found that on

478
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Speaker 5: peace and prosperity, as the fairy tale would have you believe.

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Speaker 5: It was taken with blood and fury from the our

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Speaker 5: indigenous brothers and sisters. So we acknowledge them.

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Speaker 2: And well, are you gonna have guests as well?

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Speaker 4: No, this is a talk based show. As you can see,

483
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Speaker 4: we can definitely hold our own. The hour will go

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Speaker 4: by very very fast.

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Speaker 3: Just want to come on the show.

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Speaker 7: I think right now we're no.

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Speaker 4: I think that we may end up doing some specials,

488
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Speaker 4: but clearly we got a lot to get off our chests.

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Speaker 8: And a lot to get off our chests, not just politically,

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Speaker 8: because I think we have to draw the distinction between

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Speaker 8: what you get with all the other corporate based, you know,

492
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Speaker 8: consumer based news. You heard us talk about our personal stories,

493
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Speaker 8: which I think we've back into a large societal set

494
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Speaker 8: of questions that we have to you know, have to

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Speaker 8: reckon with. I want to co sign that the support

496
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Speaker 8: that our guy from just regular black folks I didn't

497
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Speaker 8: even know, couldn't call their names, It was incredible so

498
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Speaker 8: social media also gives us the impression that we're the majority.

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Speaker 8: Tear you down when you know, overwhelmingly black folks and

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Speaker 8: lots of times without even knowing a detailed left or

501
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Speaker 8: right knows that something is amiss here and they're saying

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Speaker 8: you five dollars, you know, put some peppermints in your

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Speaker 8: jacket pocket when you pass. You know what, they would

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Speaker 8: do what they can to be there for you. And

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Speaker 8: so it's important that we start to trace some of

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Speaker 8: what has political implications back to our practices in society.

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Speaker 8: If we're tearing each other down, note that that's because

508
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Speaker 8: we are under a white hedgem and his system that

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Speaker 8: values you performing and showing up in society this way

510
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Speaker 8: every day, regardless of what you're doing the backframe when

511
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Speaker 8: everybody don't know, but this is how you're supposed to

512
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Speaker 8: show and when you step out of that blueprint and

513
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Speaker 8: something is a miss. Corporate America depends relies on reliability, predictability.

514
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Speaker 8: They need to know what you're going to do. That's

515
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Speaker 8: where their profit lies. And so we are a society

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Speaker 8: that in large part is the matrix we perform how

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Speaker 8: large interests expect us to and they spend billions trillions

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Speaker 8: making that the outcome.

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Speaker 7: I like where Andrew was going with that too, And

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Speaker 7: Tiff has brought this.

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Speaker 4: Up as well, that we we believe that politics are

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Speaker 4: everywhere like we're impacted by them, We are touched by them,

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Speaker 4: whether folks want to touch it or not, and so

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Speaker 4: we absolutely plan on making those connections for folks on

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Speaker 4: the pot.

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Speaker 3: Well, would you say to people who will probably look

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Speaker 3: at you'all and say, well, this is just gonna be

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Speaker 3: another Democratic echo chamber.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I vote Democrat most of the time,

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Speaker 5: but I am not a talking head for the party

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Speaker 5: at all. I think they make horrific decisions. I think

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Speaker 5: they summarily dismiss our community the same way a lot

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Speaker 5: of the cable news industry does. I think they fail

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Speaker 5: us at every point. I think this is part of

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Speaker 5: another narrative that some black folks have taken in and believed,

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Speaker 5: and that is, and a lot of white folks believe

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Speaker 5: it that black people are so loyal to the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 5: That is not true. Black folks are loyal to ourselves

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Speaker 5: and the world benefits from it. Society benefits from what

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Speaker 5: we do. I understand the person's perspective who says, you know,

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Speaker 5: you want me to participate in this system that has

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Speaker 5: incarcerated my brother, poisoned my mother, keeps my kids in

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Speaker 5: a dilapidated school, and you're telling me by my participation

545
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Speaker 5: in this system, I'm going to somehow fix it, when

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Speaker 5: for decades my life has not changed. I understand that perspective.

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Speaker 5: When we vote, we are not American enthusiasts trying to

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Speaker 5: uphold the white man's democracy. We are voting in favor

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Speaker 5: of harm reduction. That has nothing to do with loyalty

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Speaker 5: to a party. We are loyal to our people, and

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Speaker 5: by our people, I mean us as black folks, but

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Speaker 5: also the rising majority of this country, the Asian American,

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Speaker 5: Pacific Islander community, the Indigenous community, the Latino community, because

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Speaker 5: this country hasn't been very polite or kind to any

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Speaker 5: of those communities, and so we're trying to be here

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Speaker 5: to advance a cause for the greater good, not for

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Speaker 5: any political party.

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Speaker 3: Would any of y'all have a vote for a conservative

559
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Speaker 3: like that that wasn't a Trump Conservative?

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Speaker 5: Conservative policies I think have been overwhelmingly harmful to black folks,

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Speaker 5: So I would I don't know. I don't know necessarily

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Speaker 5: get so caught up in time show democratic That's what

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Speaker 5: I was about to say, Like, there are conservative democrats,

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Speaker 5: So I think anybody who falls under the conservative umbrella

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Speaker 5: those policies are contrary to my survival into the health

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Speaker 5: of my community.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think so, I think, And you know,

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Speaker 4: we talked about lazy journalism earlier, and this is no

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Speaker 4: insult to you, my dear brother, but I think that

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Speaker 4: what we often do is say we want to break

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Speaker 4: out of boxes, and then we try to find a

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Speaker 4: way to put people right back in those boxes.

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Speaker 7: I think here on this show, what we're going to.

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Speaker 4: Really try to do is break out of those constraints

575
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Speaker 4: and really talk about what it looks like to have

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Speaker 4: a black agenda. Thank god for Alicia Garza doing working

577
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Speaker 4: on the Black Census project that now gives us permission

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Speaker 4: to imagine what a world could look like that we

579
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Speaker 4: could live in and thrive in. I think the other

580
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Speaker 4: thing that's really important is I don't really want to

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Speaker 4: construct another Republican frankistigin. They tried that experiment and failed,

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Speaker 4: at least it failed us as Donald Trump right, Like,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to build the ideal conservative.

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Speaker 7: For me, I don't know who that is.

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Speaker 4: I thinkitician, but that's what I'm saying. I to Tip's

586
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Speaker 4: point about harm reduction. So for me, I'm progressive. I

587
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Speaker 4: don't see myself in the White House. I don't see

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Speaker 4: myself for the most part, in Congress. There are several

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Speaker 4: Congressional Black Caucus members who I think don't get the

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Speaker 4: attention and the respect they deserve because they represent my

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Speaker 4: best interests. I wish some of them would run for

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Speaker 4: higher office, and some of them haven't and couldn't get

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Speaker 4: there is.

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Speaker 8: Some of their I appreciate the point around best interests

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Speaker 8: because the truth is is that most these things benefit everybody.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's put one of heather the most. When

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Speaker 8: we say people are out there advocating, legislating on our behalf,

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Speaker 8: it's largely to close a gap that should never have

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Speaker 8: existed in the first place, that exist in public policy society,

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Speaker 8: and it plays out every single day again on this

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Speaker 8: hamster wheel that we're bridging that but the benefit of

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Speaker 8: that idea, that policy, you can't tell me getting that

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Speaker 8: extra However, many hundreds of dollars per child during COVID

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Speaker 8: for childcare didn't mean something to white folks, black folks,

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Speaker 8: brown folks, and everything in between. The problem is is

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Speaker 8: that we've got folks who are putting lots of money

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Speaker 8: into making sure that all we know are our differences.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 8: You can't tell me my state is uber Republican when

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Speaker 8: we had a race in eighteen that came down too

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Speaker 8: point four percent difference. Now I am nowhere near a

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Speaker 8: conservative title. Joe Biden is much more that than I.

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Speaker 8: Him and Ye had a five or six point difference

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Speaker 8: in the less democratic nominee you know, love them, but

615
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Speaker 8: a twenty point gap, and so did thou Demings. Right,

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Speaker 8: So what the hell are white people prepared to hear

617
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Speaker 8: from us? And in what way do they need to

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Speaker 8: hear it that doesn't betray our agenda, it furthers it,

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Speaker 8: but allows them to see themselves in the process, because

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Speaker 8: I think that's what we had to do to close

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Speaker 8: that divide. And unfortunately, black voters are the most sophisticated

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Speaker 8: voters that exist, period, And we are going to exclamation

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Speaker 8: mark that point on the program. Well, well, let's use

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Speaker 8: Obama as an example. We thought he spoke well, We

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Speaker 8: thought that he was well groomed and well prepared and

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Speaker 8: everybody was in love with Michelle Obama.

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Speaker 3: But we we didn't be well spoken and we roomed.

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Speaker 8: I'm putting it in a in a frame that I

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Speaker 8: think most people recognize our societal attributes. When you're considering

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Speaker 8: somebody to be president of the United States, he couldn't

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Speaker 8: be no black brother, brown brother like me or Warnock

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Speaker 8: from the South.

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Speaker 1: Uh voted for.

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Speaker 3: Voter because him down that was sophisticated as voted in.

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Speaker 8: But I will tell you, am you you our age range.

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Speaker 8: We carried him when our grandparents and parents didn't believe. Now,

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Speaker 8: when black folks saw that white folks in Iowa and

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Speaker 8: New Hampshire were willing to go there for him, then

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Speaker 8: it changed our perception of what was possible. But black folks, unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: but it is created in us a gift, have always

641
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Speaker 8: had to consider how white people will vote when considering

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Speaker 8: whether we could get behind that candidate put money there

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Speaker 8: organized for that person, because if it can't, if it

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Speaker 8: ain't real. As pragmatic people, we're not going there. By

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Speaker 8: and large, we supports you, hallelujah, Da da da, but

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Speaker 8: society by large isn't supporting you. So when we saw that,

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Speaker 8: did we rally or did we rally? There was no

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Speaker 8: turning back. After New Hampshire and then South Carolina, there

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Speaker 8: was no it changed. The winds in South Carolina was

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Speaker 8: different a.

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Speaker 3: Week before in South Carolina. So I'm saying it was

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Speaker 3: a lot of He won a lot of cultural wars.

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Speaker 1: My cultural wars I think framed a whole long time.

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Speaker 6: Black folks were solidly in the Clinton camp. If you remember.

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Speaker 3: Talking about inside political people, I'm talking about people just

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Speaker 3: don't talking.

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Speaker 8: About and my mother who were committed to voting for

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Speaker 8: Hillary clon first time I ever voted with Brock a

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Speaker 8: ball period, and millions of others.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to tell you. That President Obama

661
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Speaker 3: energized the whole group of people who never even considered.

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Speaker 4: That's literally what I think Andrew's point was there was

663
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Speaker 4: young people first who carried him and made it feel

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Speaker 4: like that was even possible. Older black folks were like this,

665
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Speaker 4: and it wasn't not just political folk.

666
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Speaker 8: And it wasn't because they were hating. They for us,

667
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Speaker 8: but they were scared.

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Speaker 3: To make it.

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Speaker 8: To your point of sophisticated, why are we because we

670
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Speaker 8: consider the performance of everyone else, bake get into the

671
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Speaker 8: formula before we go in and make decisions about ourselves.

672
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Speaker 8: That the privilege that we're going to talk about liberation,

673
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 8: because liberation is that I get to decide regardless of

674
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Speaker 8: how it impacts. I am going in here and I've

675
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 8: got a frame, and my freedom requires that I vote

676
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Speaker 8: for this thing that's going to lead to more of that.

677
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Speaker 2: Take it from your podcast, all the stuff you.

678
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Speaker 1: Don't notice.

679
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Speaker 3: But lost the share aspect too, because there was a

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Speaker 3: lot of people who would say, no, I don't want

681
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Speaker 3: Obama to run because he'll get killed. I remember when

682
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Speaker 3: he won the election, people thought he was going to

683
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Speaker 3: get on stage. I remember when they had the parade

684
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Speaker 3: after he got sworn in and he got off the car.

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Speaker 1: People was like, no, no, yeah, I was one of them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

687
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Speaker 5: Why because we have lived alongside these homicidal maniacs for

688
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Speaker 5: four hundred plus years, and we have seen firsthand what

689
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Speaker 5: white violence can do in this country. And I think

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Speaker 5: Andrew's point was we are sophisticated because we don't have

691
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Speaker 5: the privilege to say to cherry pick values and political

692
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Speaker 5: standpoints and say until I find this specific person, I'm

693
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Speaker 5: going to reserve my vote. I hear so many whit

694
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Speaker 5: women with that attitude. A lot of the Bernie folks

695
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Speaker 5: I think had that attitude where it's like this this

696
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Speaker 5: specific set.

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Speaker 6: Of things I'm waiting for, and if I don't.

698
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Speaker 5: I have the privilege to sit it out. I have

699
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 5: the privilege to criticize. I have the privilege to cross

700
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Speaker 5: a political divide and vote Republican.

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Speaker 6: We don't have that. We don't have that, we have

702
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Speaker 6: to sophisticated.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel we're sophisticated because we know where our

704
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Speaker 3: vote is going.

705
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Speaker 1: Everybody knows.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's true because you know why, Because

707
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 5: black people they're just like everybody else, every other constituency.

708
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Speaker 6: Black folks have the option to abstain. I hope people

709
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Speaker 6: don't choose that.

710
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Speaker 5: But the conversation, I think this is where the news

711
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: media gets it wrong as well. The conversation is not

712
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: there's a lot of focus on black voters when it

713
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Speaker 5: comes to how we fail when we don't show up.

714
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Speaker 5: So now the conversation is, oh, Biden, in all his

715
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 5: trouble with black voters, no talk about white folks who

716
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: are actively supporting and excited to support an insurrection as president.

717
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: Talk about white folks who are happy to celebrate a

718
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 5: man who is has unteemed indictments, and three baby mamas

719
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Speaker 5: talk about white folks excitement about somebody who put over

720
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Speaker 5: two hundred white conservative judges to lifetime appointments who were

721
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Speaker 5: completely ineps in law. Some of these people have never

722
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Speaker 5: been judges before. Those are the folks who are a

723
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Speaker 5: danger to democracy, not black folks. After being frustrated in

724
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 5: this process for so long, and I don't.

725
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Speaker 4: Hear us being called dangerous, I do hear the point

726
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: about sophistication, and I think it goes back to pigeonholing

727
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Speaker 4: us into believing that we are not capable of having

728
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Speaker 4: a nuanced conversation.

729
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 7: Right, I think that we.

730
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Speaker 3: Don't have a nuanced vote.

731
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Speaker 8: We have a nuanced vote every time we vote, but

732
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 8: black people are doing, are deciding, and and.

733
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Speaker 7: I'll stop because I need we can say.

734
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Speaker 8: That simply because the majority of a vote goes one

735
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Speaker 8: way that is in lockstep. Couldn't it be that we

736
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 8: liked the some of those checks too, and we knew

737
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 8: that the other party is against them. And so even

738
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Speaker 8: though I can't get everything I want, this gets me

739
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 8: marginally closer to the things that meet my knee.

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Speaker 7: And that's not my point.

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Speaker 4: I support that, but I think what I'm saying is

742
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Speaker 4: it is unfortunate. When you go to the ballot box,

743
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: you are literally in a box, right, You have to

744
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 4: make a decision. There's no nuance between checking between this

745
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: person and that person. It doesn't mean that the road

746
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: you traveled to get there was not difficult, was not excruciating.

747
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 4: The things that I'm hearing my dad say about what

748
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: is going to mean for him to vote for Joe

749
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 4: Biden this time? It's hard, you know, Like there are

750
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Speaker 4: people who I love dearly who have said not and

751
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: they didn't say this in twenty twenty, but like this

752
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: one is going.

753
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 7: To be tough because I don't feel represented.

754
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Speaker 2: Why, like why would I get out and vote and

755
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: not sit on the couch? Right, That's what a lot

756
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: of people are saying. Why would I go vote for bid?

757
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 4: Or they're saying I haven't heard why wouldn't I sit

758
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 4: on the couch? I have heard I wish somebody else

759
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 4: was running.

760
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Speaker 7: I have heard that. I've heard it a lot more.

761
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Speaker 4: It is scaring me, right, And what I hope comes

762
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: out of this not just for us for the conversations,

763
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Speaker 4: We'll have a native lamppod. But I hope what comes

764
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 4: out of this is a push from the administration to

765
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Speaker 4: do some things, to meet people where they are, meet

766
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: them in their sacrifice.

767
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 7: People showed up through a.

768
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: Pandemic for this administration, show up for these folks. You

769
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: know it's I'm tired of having the conversation about the

770
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: Democratic Party takes black voters for granted.

771
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Speaker 7: We know what are you going to do about it?

772
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 7: Chairman Jamie Harrison. I know you. I know that you

773
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Speaker 7: know the sacrifice.

774
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Speaker 4: I know what you're up against with all those white

775
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 4: consultants that ain't moved over there.

776
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 7: We got your back, so have hours. Right.

777
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Speaker 4: I think that it's time for us to really have

778
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: that conversation more publicly. We've had it quietly because a

779
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: lot of our friends work in there. We want to

780
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: give our we want to embolden our friends, empower our friends.

781
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: But now we're at a point where our family members,

782
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: our friends are talking about this more publicly and they

783
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: deserve to be held to.

784
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Speaker 3: Accuse you'll attack y'all when y'all speak out against the

785
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: President Biden. Well, look, I do date this for some

786
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: real plantation. Don't you talk about mathilistic?

787
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 7: But Leonardi might not just be plantation mentality. Some of

788
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Speaker 7: it is feared.

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Speaker 3: I was so I watched him.

790
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Speaker 8: I gotta check this time that there was legislature there.

791
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Speaker 3: You can't be mad at people who feel like that

792
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: about Trump when you.

793
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Speaker 7: Check.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was not just the stimulus.

795
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Speaker 8: I'm saying the agenda. If y'all, if you have kids

796
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 8: and you were paying for daycare and you saw that

797
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 8: that subsidy doubled on your taxes, that it went to

798
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 8: a three month every three month dispersement. Things have happened

799
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 8: as a result of this man being in office that

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00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 8: has improved.

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Speaker 1: Our quality of life.

802
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Speaker 3: How do you message what?

803
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Speaker 8: What?

804
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 1: Well?

805
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 8: You got to remind people and they have to stay

806
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 8: in the fight for it. What happened mentioned and Cinema said,

807
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 8: we're not going back there, and that was all she wrote.

808
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 8: Two Democrats said was stepping back in the Senate and

809
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 8: that was all she wrote. But I will tell you

810
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 8: this much, if Biden, we're running off of his agenda.

811
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Speaker 8: And by the way, I firmly believe these things ought

812
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 8: to exist in society anyway, because we don't pay people

813
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Speaker 8: enough to deal with the hell we deal with to

814
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Speaker 8: catch our breath from day to day. We are Native Land.

815
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Speaker 8: Podcast is going to be transformational because I think it's

816
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 8: going to remind us of our power. And yes, elections

817
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 8: have names on the ballot of people we don't like,

818
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 8: think too old, might die, Da da dadada. But it

819
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 8: is unfortunately the system that we are operating within, and

820
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Speaker 8: until we can coerce that system to looking more like

821
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Speaker 8: the one that we believe we deserve. You don't walk

822
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Speaker 8: off the field. You stay on the field, because there

823
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Speaker 8: are consequences to walking.

824
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Speaker 1: Off the field.

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Speaker 8: Trump said, I know who's getting most impacted by this coronavirus,

826
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Speaker 8: and it's mostly older, sicker, and people of color. I

827
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Speaker 8: knew right then and that press conference that he didn't

828
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Speaker 8: care a lick about the coronavirus because the people who

829
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 8: were at the intersection of the greatest impact didn't look

830
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 8: like him here and care about and so on and

831
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Speaker 8: so forth. So we if we if we just check

832
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 8: out because we're not getting everything, at least tell me

833
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 8: you're checking out from Joe Biden, because on the other

834
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 8: side of the agenda, you're getting more than what you're

835
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 8: getting on this side. Not one promise, not almost send

836
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 8: a check to your business. But I am going to

837
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 8: produce public policy that leads to your greater freedom, your

838
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 8: ability to move the way you want to move, because

839
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Speaker 8: those rights are inalienable.

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Speaker 5: But to switch over, I may have an unpopular take here,

841
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: so I may lose my a man corner. But there

842
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 5: is a saying in politics that you can never blame

843
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 5: the voter. I am gonna blame the voter a little

844
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: bit because I feel like society at large is so

845
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: caught up again in bulshit, and so there are many

846
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 5: things that the Biden administration has done that people benefit from.

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Speaker 5: I think one, there's a lack of understanding and civics

848
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 5: in this country across every socioeconomic status, across every racial divide.

849
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Speaker 5: People don't underst the difference between state, federal, and local government,

850
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: and so sometimes people ascribe blame where there should be

851
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 5: none to the federal government too. We have to take

852
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 5: responsibility as citizens of this country. It is our job

853
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: to know when elections are happening, what's on the ballot,

854
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 5: who's on the ballot, why these things matter. So maybe

855
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 5: just maybe instead of scrolling through Instagram looking at nonsense

856
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 5: for three fucking hours, maybe pick up a paper or

857
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 5: maybe Google, maybe say what has Biden done for Black America.

858
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 5: That's a question you have asked that. That's a fair

859
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 5: question you should be asking it. I encourage that kind

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Speaker 5: of curiosity.

861
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 6: Ask it. Maybe you will be surprised.

862
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 5: You can call up your member of Congress and say, hey,

863
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 5: I got fifty friends at my house and we want

864
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: to hear what you're doing for us. That member of

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Speaker 5: Congress just might show up. Maybe show up to the

866
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Speaker 5: school board meeting where your kids are in school, where

867
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Speaker 5: they're taking their rewriting history. They're banning books in this

868
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: country right now. Maybe participate in that. At the bare minimum,

869
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: you can read something. At most, you can go up

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Speaker 5: and show and show up someplace and ask a question.

871
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 5: You can host something, you can be a voice. You

872
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 5: can write a check to a candidate, you can run

873
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: for office. But these things do require some participation from us,

874
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 5: not us sitting around whining about, well, I don't know

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Speaker 5: what he did. When you have this in your hand

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00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 5: every five minutes and it's full of information, you can

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00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 5: find a reliable source from the White House website itself,

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00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: to newspapers, et cetera, and be informed.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I just think we're intellectually dishonest

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Speaker 3: about a lot of this stuff based on what party

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Speaker 3: we like, because we'll say things like, oh, people don't

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Speaker 3: know civics. But then if you mentioned Barack Obama, you'll

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Speaker 3: say Obama gave you health care, right, But if you

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Speaker 3: say Trump gave Stimie, you're like, no, Trump didn't give

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Speaker 3: the Stimmies, Congress voting for it them. You say Trump

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Speaker 3: did the FIRS step back. Trump didn't do the first

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Speaker 3: step back. Congress did for it. See a little intellectually dishonest.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is based on what party.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you deal on all sides. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: absolutely right, As.

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Speaker 3: You said, google what Biden did? So you want to

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Speaker 3: you whatever he did pass Trump did?

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Speaker 7: She was saying to the question, because people did does

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Speaker 7: come up?

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Speaker 4: I mean even in some of the questions in the

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Speaker 4: commons where I was like, what do you guys want

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Speaker 4: us to address on the podcast, one of them was

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Speaker 4: what did Biden do for black people versus the g

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Speaker 4: O P now, because he can't make a speech from yesterday, no,

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Speaker 4: that from the Trouston speech, because he had whole lists

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Speaker 4: of stuff in the pulpit and Mother Emmanuel of what

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Speaker 4: he believes he did for like on the.

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Speaker 3: Things he didn't get done, the first thing we'll say

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Speaker 3: is was because Congress wouldn't allow him to he had

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Speaker 3: gotten them done, y'all, Like, look what Biden did. That's

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Speaker 3: why I said, it's a little be.

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Speaker 7: Careful about y'all.

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Speaker 4: Right, we have this fight all the time, even on

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Speaker 4: our phone calls, like I don't like to be y'all

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Speaker 4: to me, like, shut up, that's true what y'all were

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Speaker 4: on and we on the fourth y'all.

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Speaker 7: That's definitely where I'm at. But I guess the point

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Speaker 7: is say again, yeah, that's what she said.

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Speaker 4: But no, I think at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: it is true that we will assign blame to people

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Speaker 4: that some times don't deserve it when there is a

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Speaker 4: whole process to tips point on civics, and we will

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Speaker 4: reward someone who we need them to win, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I think that again, going back to the reason

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Speaker 4: we're here today, Native Lampod every Thursday, we're gonna be

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Speaker 4: honest about processes. We want our folks to be smarter.

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Speaker 4: We want folks to hold us to account. We say

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Speaker 4: something wrong, tell us we want to get it right,

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Speaker 4: and it's not to be right. It's because we want

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Speaker 4: to be better, we want to be free, We want

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Speaker 4: to walk in.

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Speaker 7: Our true liberation.

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Speaker 4: If we can get our folks one step closer to that,

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Speaker 4: that's what we want to do.

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Speaker 8: Everything as long as we give them a shout out

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Speaker 8: right now, because black people, ever since we've been able

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Speaker 8: to participate in elections and before, have been holding this

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Speaker 8: country and pushing this country closer to its true vision

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Speaker 8: of an American dream and it's principles upon which it's built,

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Speaker 8: enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and

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Speaker 8: reiterated throughout. It's been black voters who have consistently showed

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Speaker 8: up to hold America to the fire of the promise

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Speaker 8: that we weren't even designed in from its beginning. The

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Speaker 8: words were there, the actions weren't, and black folks would

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Speaker 8: be the reinforces and the accountability agents to make the

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Speaker 8: words mean.

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Speaker 3: Something that's right. Native Lamp Podcast. It starts January Thursday,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's very important to note that this

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Speaker 3: is the first flagship podcast from Reason Choice Media, which

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Speaker 3: is a political podcast network with with With iHeart that

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Speaker 3: angela Ria is the founder of.

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Speaker 7: With You and Chris Mile and it is my honor, yes.

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Speaker 3: So it'll be a lot more shows coming down the pipeline,

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Speaker 3: but we appreciate you guys for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Andrew Gillam.

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Speaker 3: Subscribe the Native Lamp podcast right now.

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