Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you my life and look
Speaker 1: over there. How is that culture? Yes, goodness ding dong
Speaker 1: lost culture is just calling how is your baby? My
Speaker 1: baby is strong. I read that part in Avatar The
Speaker 1: Way of Water, where Kate Winslet talks to the whale.
Speaker 1: There's a subtitled portion still in Papyrus amazing. The whale
Speaker 1: asks Kate the words are how is your baby? I
Speaker 1: was picturing an emphasis on the word how in that
Speaker 1: way where you know, girl is your baby? How is
Speaker 1: your baby? Like that my baby is strong? And then
Speaker 1: I think my baby is strong and more straightforward. It's
Speaker 1: more like my baby is strong. It's getting really And
Speaker 1: then they swim together in the circle. I really felt
Speaker 1: a sister dynamic. You are Kate and I'm the whale.
Speaker 1: You think so, No, I don't like that because spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: they come get your yellow juice. I did not like girl,
Speaker 1: my little brain juice they got. They came and got
Speaker 1: your brain juice. They drilled a hole on the roof
Speaker 1: of my mouth and got my brain juice. Do we
Speaker 1: talk about this? So the new un obtainium is that juice.
Speaker 1: The new girl on the black is what are the
Speaker 1: whales called? I'm not sure. It sounds like, well, the
Speaker 1: whales are called tung CON's and you tilcoon tilcun tu
Speaker 1: l q u n and then you gotta go get
Speaker 1: their whale juice because I think it's anti aging. I
Speaker 1: think it's easy, reezy, beautiful cover girl. Wow, it's retinal.
Speaker 1: Retinal is a yellow juice in a way. God, dare
Speaker 1: we ask a question about where retin all comes from?
Speaker 1: Are we going to be horrified and just dismayed by
Speaker 1: the answer. It's fine. It's a vitamin A derivative. You
Speaker 1: don't have to get it from anywhere. You can just
Speaker 1: make it in the lab. It's totally fine. There's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with and all. There's everything wrong with the What
Speaker 1: with the way that these humans miss thing got her
Speaker 1: arm cut offs? I would say that was a highlight
Speaker 1: of the movie for me, and I will say, so, wait,
Speaker 1: let's just get into it. We're talking about Avatar. The
Speaker 1: Way of Water, um, a film that really took box offices,
Speaker 1: you know, by absolute storm. It was not the only
Speaker 1: movie I've seen recently. I want to get into that
Speaker 1: with you. But oh my god, I'm so jealous the
Speaker 1: way the types of turn. But let's just first talk
Speaker 1: about Avatar the Way of Water because this is let's
Speaker 1: just say, the first episode of Congrats grab we all
Speaker 1: made it. This is our as promised, our Grand culture
Speaker 1: catch up, our Grand culture, the grand Grand Culture catch up.
Speaker 1: And um, I think the episode title is Grand Culture
Speaker 1: catch Up. What is the thing? The two dots above
Speaker 1: each other? How is your baby? Yes? I love that.
Speaker 1: There's much discussed. We have so much. We have a
Speaker 1: huge announcement about the podcast theme this year as well. Yes,
Speaker 1: lots too, lots to get into. But first, um, you
Speaker 1: know this movie took the box office by stormbow and
Speaker 1: it was Avatar to the Way of Water. Wow. And
Speaker 1: your review was negative. My review was negative. And I
Speaker 1: made the mistake of writing a negative review on Letterboxed.
Speaker 1: Oh no, And I didn't realize there are some real
Speaker 1: Cameron head. Yeah, a lot of environmentalists out there, that's
Speaker 1: what they're That's what the James Cameron fan community calls
Speaker 1: themself environmentalists. But James Cameron is in a way the
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift of Letterbox Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like you best not. And by the way, once miss
Speaker 1: Taylor comes out with her own feature film, as it's
Speaker 1: been announced to the trades. Yes, everybody, get off letter box.
Speaker 1: There's no point in staying on the app. It will
Speaker 1: be overrun, and there's no point in leaving an honest
Speaker 1: review about any work made by anyone because the horse
Speaker 1: will have been opened. James Cameron is the Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: and the Nick Minaj and like, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like he is inviting a troublesome discourse
Speaker 1: into that space. All I said was, you know, the
Speaker 1: movie was giving me a Command and Conqueror cut scene,
Speaker 1: which is this like old video game from where there
Speaker 1: was like variable frame rate. It was like, oh, the
Speaker 1: actors are in a different frame rate than the background,
Speaker 1: which is literally what this movie is innovating on. Right,
Speaker 1: like all these all these movie techie motion capture moment, well,
Speaker 1: they're losing their minds over variable frame rate, which personally
Speaker 1: made me a little nauseous, which I'm sure I did
Speaker 1: not see it the right kind of theater with not
Speaker 1: the right kind of Dolby set up. It was not
Speaker 1: a good experience for me, got it visually, and also
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess storytelling wise, you were not like necessarily transported.
Speaker 1: But you know what, this movie has to make two
Speaker 1: billion dollars to break even what it's going to do,
Speaker 1: an which is going to do great. But for that reason,
Speaker 1: the story has to be the broadest appealing thing ever made. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so I forgive it. I forgive it on a
Speaker 1: storytelling level. I'm just doing it. On a visual technical level.
Speaker 1: It's stunning, a gorgeous movie. I was transported, but I
Speaker 1: was also a little nauseated, and I wish it was
Speaker 1: more like right of passive. What was the flight of
Speaker 1: you wish you could write on the back of something
Speaker 1: while you watch it was what you're saying. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I was thinking. When Ms Marines was writing the
Speaker 1: band sheet, I was like, I get me back on
Speaker 1: that thing. I want to go back. I'm gonna feel
Speaker 1: it's breathing. It's the chest rising and falling on me
Speaker 1: below my thighs. I'm going next week Disney World. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so jelly. You you you need you
Speaker 1: can't do this to me? Well, I mean I so basically,
Speaker 1: it's me and my sister's last trip together before she
Speaker 1: becomes Chelsea Fraser. But this is our last time we
Speaker 1: can like spend brother sister time together. Let's see Fraser.
Speaker 1: I know, isn't that wild? Chelsea is going to be
Speaker 1: my sister's name. Oh actually, I haven't really gotten into
Speaker 1: it with her about whether she's like changing it, changing it,
Speaker 1: but like in all intents and purposes other way iconic.
Speaker 1: So we are going and I will be doing the
Speaker 1: Flight of Passage. And so because I've seen Avatar to
Speaker 1: the Way of Water so close together with Flight of Passage,
Speaker 1: I'll be more able to accurately compare them. But for me,
Speaker 1: I would say my review of Avatar The Way of
Speaker 1: Water was I found um, I found it to be
Speaker 1: not really nauseating for me, but I did see it
Speaker 1: in Imax three D as as was really strongly advertised.
Speaker 1: I would mostly just say these are too long, These
Speaker 1: are too long. I actually took an intermission for myself,
Speaker 1: and I did take like actually at ten to twelve
Speaker 1: minute break in the middle. And then I found out
Speaker 1: why I missed some crucial stuff go on in the
Speaker 1: middle with a flashback to Sigourney. I guess young Kierie,
Speaker 1: who's also played by Sigourney. This was part of the
Speaker 1: movie I did not understand. I didn't really understand why
Speaker 1: we needed Sigourney. We were to play a team because
Speaker 1: because for me personally, when I was watching ms Kirie,
Speaker 1: you know, who was a teen nav or hybrid nav
Speaker 1: rather or whatever the fuck? It was interesting to me
Speaker 1: and sort of took me out of it a little
Speaker 1: bit that she had a Yale educated actress's voice, but
Speaker 1: that to me was something I could get over. But
Speaker 1: I did find out that I took a break in
Speaker 1: the middle and Sigourney sort of came back like as herself,
Speaker 1: and I guess there was like a dream sequence um
Speaker 1: with Sigourney really sister life. I think I missed this
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, or we could both have been there
Speaker 1: and fully watching the movie and just not remember it
Speaker 1: because it is one of those things. But and where
Speaker 1: it's actually it's jaw dropping. I could not tell you
Speaker 1: what this movie was, no me neither. I understand. The
Speaker 1: humans came back, Mama who was in the first movie,
Speaker 1: who was evil Colonel Fritz or whatever, A girl I
Speaker 1: don't know his name, but old Man came back as
Speaker 1: a nov which is never good. We learned sacrifice as
Speaker 1: a family. We had a soft launcher of my of
Speaker 1: my new boyfriend whose code name is Lenny, on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Um loved it, was enthralled, Lenny loved, we got him
Speaker 1: a little stoned. We saw it up in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: That's endearing. So many people around us were enjoying it,
Speaker 1: Lenny included, And I would say I had a fine time. Um,
Speaker 1: but I do believe these movies are too long, and
Speaker 1: for it to take up that much space of life
Speaker 1: and for me to not really be able to say
Speaker 1: what the movie was about about is jarring to me,
Speaker 1: but not unlike the first one. And is that by design?
Speaker 1: Is it supposed to be an m kneesiac sort of
Speaker 1: viewing experience? There is something kind of amazing about that,
Speaker 1: where if James Cameron expects us to go into these
Speaker 1: movies having remembered nothing from the prior installments, I think
Speaker 1: that's actually incredible. I love that that might be the case.
Speaker 1: Did you re educate yourself off by seeing the first
Speaker 1: time again? They re released it in theaters and actually
Speaker 1: Sudy and I went we went to see the first
Speaker 1: Avatar when it was rereleased because we were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll definitely see the second one. Let's see what the
Speaker 1: hell is going on here? And then what's funny is
Speaker 1: we're going to see the movie. And I guess Lenny
Speaker 1: hadn't even seen the first one. So he turns to
Speaker 1: me and goes, could you tell me what happened in
Speaker 1: the first movie? Where I was like I literally was like,
Speaker 1: of course, so and then I started talking and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh wait. I was like, okay. So they
Speaker 1: go to a planet and there's this thing there, there's
Speaker 1: this thing there. But you know what, I am obsessed
Speaker 1: with a wa as a concept. A WA. I love
Speaker 1: that they're connected to their land and their people. That
Speaker 1: was beautiful. See this is what Isa see. This is
Speaker 1: This is how you know that the film is a failure.
Speaker 1: You cannot be leaving Avatar too and saying what is
Speaker 1: a wa? This is like that's like leaving Earth and
Speaker 1: be like what was God again? Actually, this is my
Speaker 1: note for Avatar. In the world building of this. You
Speaker 1: need to do like Tolkien style, like the made up words.
Speaker 1: You remember, you know when I say doth racky, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I know those girls, or when I say
Speaker 1: or chai, when I say you know not school, you
Speaker 1: know who those girls are. Not to give miss Joanna
Speaker 1: too much credit, but even when I say mud blood
Speaker 1: or even when I say, you know, by the use
Speaker 1: of a slur, first slur of when you said mud blood.
Speaker 1: I heard that you said that with a hard D
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I know. But these are
Speaker 1: words that Hugh just closely enough to like, let's just
Speaker 1: say English or a romance language that you go, okay,
Speaker 1: I can linguistically link that to like this abstract, made
Speaker 1: up concept in this other world. There is no foothold
Speaker 1: for me sonically for any of these terms that James
Speaker 1: Cameron has made up, except for un obtainingum, isn't that terrible?
Speaker 1: And navi nav that's a nav un obtainum. Those are
Speaker 1: the only words I know, and James Cameron has to
Speaker 1: maybe try just having those two words. That the challenge
Speaker 1: for the next movie should be no new terms, no
Speaker 1: new terms. I would not hold your breath, So I know,
Speaker 1: I'm not of course, I'm not expecting that, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying it would be so much more helpful to me
Speaker 1: as a viewer. And that's what's important. You know, this
Speaker 1: movie had many subtitles because much of the dialogue happened underwater.
Speaker 1: Did you feel that when you were watching the film
Speaker 1: you could pinpoint the time where it was required for
Speaker 1: Kate Winslet to have held her breath underwater for seven
Speaker 1: minutes and fifteen seconds, or maybe did she did? She
Speaker 1: never actually need to learn how to do that. Literally,
Speaker 1: I think she did have. I think all of the
Speaker 1: actors had to learn how to do that, is what
Speaker 1: we're hearing. Right. There was not a continuous tape ache
Speaker 1: that was seven minutes long in which Kate was underwater,
Speaker 1: but literally she was underwater having dialogue, literally acting during
Speaker 1: how is your baby? You know what? You're actually right,
Speaker 1: it actually was important that she learned how to hold
Speaker 1: her breath underwater for seven minutes and fifteen seconds because
Speaker 1: it was the most important scene in the film where
Speaker 1: she asked the whale how or the whale asked her
Speaker 1: how her baby was and she was or was it
Speaker 1: the whale that said my baby is strong? No, you
Speaker 1: know what? That's what it was. So Kate Winslet whale, no, mama, mama,
Speaker 1: whose name is right? Now? Roll the tape Ronald McDonald,
Speaker 1: Ronald McDonell, the house down. Kate says to the whale,
Speaker 1: how is your baby? Because remember the whale has had
Speaker 1: a new baby, and the whale said my baby is strong,
Speaker 1: which makes it even more heartbreaking when spoiler alert, the
Speaker 1: whale and her baby are slaughtered by the humans. The
Speaker 1: humans suck. Oh my god. But don't you also feel real, real, Cristy.
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like maybe we we've had it with
Speaker 1: the humans, like we get that the humans are bad?
Speaker 1: Like someone someone I think it was actually ContraPoints said like, so,
Speaker 1: just thinking about the movie again, who was evil? Was
Speaker 1: it the men with guns who came in and snarling
Speaker 1: and said they were going to like rape for the
Speaker 1: earth and like we're unapologetic? Were they antagonists? Just for me?
Speaker 1: I was just like, it is a little and it
Speaker 1: is speaking to what you're saying about. It needs to
Speaker 1: be so fucking broad and like paint and big broad
Speaker 1: brush books like for Who's evil, Who's good? Etcetera, which
Speaker 1: I actually am okay with in a movie, especially in
Speaker 1: a movie that's for everyone, like essentially this is four kids,
Speaker 1: um and there for everyone. But it was I was
Speaker 1: wondering if it would have been more interesting if there
Speaker 1: was intra planet conflict and instead of like the humans
Speaker 1: are back, Like I really don't need to see this
Speaker 1: evil I who turned into a navy be the villain
Speaker 1: for like all five of these movies, Like I don't
Speaker 1: care at all, Like I'd rather I'd rather move on
Speaker 1: to like you know, maybe it's like something that happens
Speaker 1: on the planet itself and there's like navy warring between
Speaker 1: the tribes or whatever, like I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if I need humans returning every movie. Who knows. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe MS Miss Marine, Miss Thing Marine is gonna come
Speaker 1: back and really rally than the Pandora natives. And then
Speaker 1: the lines are so blurred, like where does he end
Speaker 1: as a human? Where does he begin as a navy?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you think that the
Speaker 1: third movie will take place in the sky or do
Speaker 1: you think we'll go to a different part of the world.
Speaker 1: Do you think it will be Avatar three? Song of
Speaker 1: the Skies, The Song of the Sands, Song of the Sands, Oh,
Speaker 1: avatar um, Days of the Desert, Days, Oh my god?
Speaker 1: You know they announced what the what? The next one
Speaker 1: is called The Seed Bearer, which is just like Fags one.
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be like I want to bear your seed,
Speaker 1: you know what? Okay, can we move on? Because I
Speaker 1: assume I assume you were alluding earlier to maybe having
Speaker 1: seen Megan. This is how you know that energetically and
Speaker 1: cosmically things are shifting in the world. Not only did
Speaker 1: I see Megan this weekend, I also finally caught Nope.
Speaker 1: I've had to quote unquote horror movies in the past
Speaker 1: couple of days. Now, let me just say I watched Nope. Lenny,
Speaker 1: and I watched Nope, and you had seen Nope months ago.
Speaker 1: I had seen Nope when it came out by myself
Speaker 1: in Charlotte. Yes. The reason we saw Nope is because
Speaker 1: next week on the podcast announce it bo Our first
Speaker 1: guest in Less Culturistic is the legendary Kiki Palmer. Were
Speaker 1: so excited. It's gonna be so fun. I guarantee a
Speaker 1: good time. She's gonna be She's She's just a perfect person.
Speaker 1: I I would die for that woman, I really would.
Speaker 1: I've said it before, I'll say it again. We were
Speaker 1: in Miami and we were watching um just clips of
Speaker 1: her on Legendary, and she was so good on it,
Speaker 1: and I feel like all the things she does get lost,
Speaker 1: but this is someone and I can't wait to talk
Speaker 1: to her about this because this is actually something I'm
Speaker 1: really interested in, Like she is, I guess a figure
Speaker 1: in our culture. That it's not even that she's saying
Speaker 1: yes everything, is that she is not afraid to show
Speaker 1: all parts of herself as a performer. You will see
Speaker 1: her be hosting, performing, producing, I'm sure like doing all
Speaker 1: these things, judging, you know, like she is just so
Speaker 1: confident in herself as an as an entertainer. And I
Speaker 1: can tell that for her, it's about entertainment first, and
Speaker 1: she wants to do what she's going to enjoy, and
Speaker 1: she does enjoy all these things. So she enjoys so
Speaker 1: much about like, you know, like, no, I really want
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously as this this like she's not
Speaker 1: negotiating that she's doing what she knows she can be
Speaker 1: good at and have fun with. And I really like
Speaker 1: that about her. Is that not so inspiring? Because all
Speaker 1: what I'm catching myself doing right now, especially as being like, uh,
Speaker 1: I should like pull back a little bit or you know,
Speaker 1: make myself a little less seen or whatever. And but
Speaker 1: then you look at her and you're like, she's never
Speaker 1: been hampered by that, and she's still Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I just I'm obsessed with her and assignment viewing for
Speaker 1: all readers, publicists and you my sister music video for
Speaker 1: her amazing song hands Free. She is doing Corio down,
Speaker 1: she is giving body, she is serving she she's looking
Speaker 1: at the camera and piercing through the lens to you.
Speaker 1: You will love it. Look, I've known she was a
Speaker 1: star since Aequila and the b years ago and Jackson VP,
Speaker 1: True Jackson VP, and never forget her. In Oh My God,
Speaker 1: she sang Freddie and my Love she looked dead into
Speaker 1: the camera and gave that number, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that girl is here to stay. Also,
Speaker 1: never forget Hustlers. She's done so many things and we're
Speaker 1: so excited to talk to her. And I'll reserve my
Speaker 1: thoughts on Nope, which I loved, by the way, um
Speaker 1: until we talked to her. But anyway, the other it
Speaker 1: girl of the moment is Megan and I y'all know
Speaker 1: I do not do horror movies, but I said, I
Speaker 1: can't miss the moment, a cultural phenomenon in our midst,
Speaker 1: and so I saw Megan, tell me what you think
Speaker 1: without spoiling, because my tragedy is that I'm in London
Speaker 1: currently and it doesn't come out here until the fourteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: well take the to the Fundry on the fourteen, and
Speaker 1: the Fundry being any theater showing Megan because Megan is
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just like Megan is not only
Speaker 1: about to take over, Megan is a franchise. Why you
Speaker 1: see Megan two, Meghan's you're gonna see Megan versus Isabel,
Speaker 1: Annabelle or whatever you're You're are gonna see Megan going forward.
Speaker 1: And I will also say, as a result of watching Megan,
Speaker 1: I began to rewatch of Girls last night. Here's what
Speaker 1: I have to say. I left the movie and I
Speaker 1: turned to I Think Lewis and I was like, is
Speaker 1: she good? I think she's incredible? And then I rewatched
Speaker 1: the first because we loved her and get out. But
Speaker 1: there's this narrative about her like she's just kind of like,
Speaker 1: I did you read the Vulture piece that Rachel Handler
Speaker 1: wrote about her. I didn't read it, but um Gogger
Speaker 1: did this like roundup of all the profiles that have
Speaker 1: been coming out about her lately, and it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we get it. She's self aware, but she actually has
Speaker 1: navigated the whole Neppo baby thing maybe the best out
Speaker 1: of anybody in recent memory, where she's like yeah, like
Speaker 1: I definitely got girls because of my connections. But that's
Speaker 1: the reality, and I'm still gonna work. Like great, that's
Speaker 1: literally all we need to hear. Yeah, I would agree
Speaker 1: with you entirely. The Neppo baby thing. It's when someone
Speaker 1: calls you a Neppo baby and you're out there and
Speaker 1: it's just is true. I guess that's like, don't be
Speaker 1: defense of about it. It's just you are. I mean,
Speaker 1: we know several Neppo babies, and you know what ties
Speaker 1: them all together? I would say, they're all really fucking talented,
Speaker 1: and it's not like they didn't have a leg up.
Speaker 1: But what I appreciated about her response to it was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I I benefit from neptism, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Just don't be uncool about it. Don't be defensive about it.
Speaker 1: Haley Peeper were like a T shirt that said Neppa
Speaker 1: baby on it the other day, and that that I
Speaker 1: feel like, is you know, she's not one of the
Speaker 1: ones I'm talking about, right, but she's no. No, I'm
Speaker 1: bringing her up as a sort of weird counter lateral
Speaker 1: example where it's like she's not being defensive about it,
Speaker 1: but she's also being smug about it in a way
Speaker 1: that I'm like, that's not it. The thing about Allison
Speaker 1: is like I rewatched the pilot of Girls. She's so
Speaker 1: good in it. Her chemistry with Lena is really good.
Speaker 1: And then just like I was reading this piece that
Speaker 1: Rachel did an amazing job on um and she was
Speaker 1: talking about how you know, I think because Allison is
Speaker 1: like quote unquote presenting as like a basic white girl,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And she plays that role
Speaker 1: of Martie, who is the big boss, basic dumb white
Speaker 1: girl especi the millennial culture, like really was captured in
Speaker 1: that moment like she was that girl and we all
Speaker 1: know that girl, but she this weird thing attached to her,
Speaker 1: like she was that person. And she was saying in
Speaker 1: the interview like, can you imagine playing that person for
Speaker 1: that long and not being in on the joke? Like what,
Speaker 1: that's fascinating if people think that's who I am? And
Speaker 1: I would disagree that. I genuinely think you can be
Speaker 1: very close to the person that you play for that long.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not the case with her, but in this movie,
Speaker 1: and I like the way that she's attaching herself to
Speaker 1: these horror projects because to me, it's so she has
Speaker 1: a sense of humor, like the way that this movie
Speaker 1: starts is immediately telling the audience like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: a big fucking camp joke, you know, which which I
Speaker 1: love and we need more of that. Well, Matt, would
Speaker 1: you agree that horror is sort of the last genres
Speaker 1: space where you can't have like interesting non pre existing
Speaker 1: I p store worry like it's it really is. I
Speaker 1: think like unfortunately the last sort of like zoned out
Speaker 1: area and in Hollywood where like it can be on
Speaker 1: news stories all right. I think of the past year
Speaker 1: like between Smile and Barbarian and like like these Nope,
Speaker 1: like these are all these are all great films period. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I would even say, like, you know, I did
Speaker 1: not see it, but obviously people with malignant people feel
Speaker 1: a franchise was born there, um, you know. And and
Speaker 1: I would say it is really interesting because there is
Speaker 1: not only just in you know, what audiences get from
Speaker 1: it in terms of going to the theater and having
Speaker 1: like a knee jerk response, like like an actual like
Speaker 1: out loud emotional response like I guess you could call
Speaker 1: you could say screaming or gasping or being scared is
Speaker 1: the same as like laughlock having that involuntary like response
Speaker 1: that you get because because you really we've seen comedies
Speaker 1: have a very hard time doing that theatrically. But I
Speaker 1: think that because like you can sort of get that
Speaker 1: same physical, like conditioned response from a horror movie as
Speaker 1: you can get from a comedy, you see those movies
Speaker 1: be really successful. And also the crossover with comedy a lot.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Megan is a comedy film,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, this is Yes, there are jump scares,
Speaker 1: and yes there are like there are kills in the movie,
Speaker 1: but Megan is a comedic She is a comedic icon,
Speaker 1: and like just people negotiating her and talking to her
Speaker 1: and around her, Like I was impressed the entire time.
Speaker 1: There are there is a scene where she sings Titanium
Speaker 1: by the Little Girl, which is a moment in comedy history.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is so beyond We were screaming in
Speaker 1: the theater, not just from being scared, but from also
Speaker 1: being very tickled. And I would say, you know, comedically
Speaker 1: is off to a great start if Megan is the
Speaker 1: first comedy release of the year, which is and so
Speaker 1: in that way, I can appreciate it. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: and Nope, was way funnier than people gave it credit for.
Speaker 1: So funny ways, Oh my god, did you I heard
Speaker 1: a story that Kiki gave. This isn't not a spoiler,
Speaker 1: but Kiki gave a different version of that opening monologue,
Speaker 1: the voice over against like the horse saying, like a
Speaker 1: different version every single take. And I'm like, this motherfucker
Speaker 1: is so she has it. She has the fact, she
Speaker 1: is oozing it like it is. I mean, I I
Speaker 1: turned to Lenny last night when we were watching it.
Speaker 1: I turned to him and he was just like, She's
Speaker 1: a fucking superstar. I was like, down, down, it's so
Speaker 1: it's once in a generation, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: All I've wanted is like a leading lady who also
Speaker 1: has like a really perfect side of her that is
Speaker 1: like Jack Harry, Like there is like very Jack, that
Speaker 1: is like the beautiful thing that Kiki has. You know
Speaker 1: what it is too, It's like the fun is being followed,
Speaker 1: the fun is being followed. Oh my god. She she's
Speaker 1: hands down my favorite host and my time there she is.
Speaker 1: Oh god, we we had so much fun. She loves
Speaker 1: to laugh. We love that. And then you get that sense,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And also you know, like
Speaker 1: Joel had such a great time working with on Quimby,
Speaker 1: but anyways, so much to talk to her about. But
Speaker 1: I had to I had to just um say that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It feels like the horror space
Speaker 1: there is something about that shared experience of the theater
Speaker 1: that is not replicable at home, whereas with comedies like
Speaker 1: you kind of can replicate that experience at home, you
Speaker 1: know what. Yes, And well with with horror, it's like
Speaker 1: people can already anticipate the turns if it's an existing
Speaker 1: I P. Does that make sense? Like it benefits from
Speaker 1: being surprising and so therefore it's like it makes more
Speaker 1: sense to like have these stories be things that people
Speaker 1: haven't seen before. I don't know about. Yes, And also
Speaker 1: I think the things specifically with Megan is she is
Speaker 1: a direct response to like what it seems like the
Speaker 1: zeitgeist craves right now, which is she is a meme.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, She is a walking meme.
Speaker 1: It is like it is it is so stupid when
Speaker 1: you see her every single time you you literally could
Speaker 1: laugh every single time she appears on screen, and the
Speaker 1: way they her and sometimes the way that like she
Speaker 1: just like shifts her eyes in a certain way, like
Speaker 1: it is a fully realized it's a really well done movie,
Speaker 1: and who goes to everyone that was involved. I mean,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't too long. It was really fun, it
Speaker 1: was scary, It was fucking laugh out loud funny. If
Speaker 1: I have one note for it, and I won't get
Speaker 1: too into it because you haven't seen it yet, but
Speaker 1: they sort of set up a final set piece that
Speaker 1: we don't see and I'll ruin it. But like spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: not really that, Like this isn't about any character's fate. Um.
Speaker 1: I would say they're supposed to be like a big
Speaker 1: expo at the end where a lot of people come
Speaker 1: see a demon's ration of Megan, and we don't see that,
Speaker 1: and I was I just really wish we had seen that,
Speaker 1: because like her wreaking havoc on a ton of people
Speaker 1: would have been really fun. But instead we get a
Speaker 1: very classic like final show down between the girls, which
Speaker 1: Alison definitely carried. I mean, look, I loved her and
Speaker 1: get Out. I didn't see that movie The Perfection, but
Speaker 1: I heard it was good. If she's carving herself out
Speaker 1: in this horror niche I say, you go girl, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love It, love It, Love Her, and I Love
Speaker 1: Marny Canican Central Parks one of the best episodes of
Speaker 1: television period period. Speaking of monsters, you get to experience
Speaker 1: the premier of Drag Race, I was speaking of monsters. Um,
Speaker 1: those drag queens are monsters. You can't say that. I did.
Speaker 1: I did, you know, I I enjoyed it. It is
Speaker 1: overwhelming the amount, just on a volume level, the amount
Speaker 1: of girls. But it is because I guess v Comma
Speaker 1: is ordering a really really exorbitant amount of episodes, so
Speaker 1: therefore you have sixteen queens. Um, I think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't tell. I was thinking about whether or not it
Speaker 1: is intentional. On the show's part two immediately redeemed sugar
Speaker 1: and Spice, so that by the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: like everyone's on the same page. For the most part,
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh no, actually they're fine. You know. I
Speaker 1: think it is a way for them to justify them
Speaker 1: being there, for them to immediately have a narrative actually
Speaker 1: they're not that bad. I mean literally, what the show
Speaker 1: is telling the audience is actually they're not that bad.
Speaker 1: Give like like with them, and I'm watching it being like,
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't actually seen them tested for like,
Speaker 1: we've seen them do a number that they've rehearsed a
Speaker 1: long time, and I would I would give that they
Speaker 1: are better than I would imagine that they would be
Speaker 1: based on never performing, which is the narrative we're also
Speaker 1: being told, which maybe maybe not. Um. Their runways looked great.
Speaker 1: I mean, for for queens that barely had their wigs
Speaker 1: on before the runway started, they certainly looked good. But
Speaker 1: I just don't know how much of I don't know
Speaker 1: how much of it I trust as fact because I
Speaker 1: know it's a produced reality show. But like sure, like
Speaker 1: I mean, the show definitely succeeded in you know, telegraphing
Speaker 1: to the audience capital t capital a that they deserve
Speaker 1: to be there, um and we'll see how far it goes.
Speaker 1: We'll see how far it goes. Um. Interesting way to
Speaker 1: split the premier. I kind of liked that you sort
Speaker 1: of had the second half time in halfway through. I
Speaker 1: thought that was good. I was really surprised, surprised raw
Speaker 1: deal that the second group of queens did not get
Speaker 1: to be Ariana in the workroom. But that's true, and
Speaker 1: I her was that Ariannest idea. Did you did you
Speaker 1: ask her. I did not ask her. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I did not ask, So it might have been. It
Speaker 1: might not have been. Maybe they just had their like
Speaker 1: livasouses around, like Ariana, do you want to do this
Speaker 1: the silly thing? But Ariana is excited. Sasha Coolby for
Speaker 1: me is the number one. I mean, Sasha Coolby is.
Speaker 1: She came out and I was like, well, that's the way, right,
Speaker 1: if I have anything to say about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just like the type of queen I want to
Speaker 1: see on the show, but also a Nitra. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was really surprised. I think that was a well
Speaker 1: deserved win. Love that loved the kicking the karate walked
Speaker 1: that fucking duck. I mean, that was to me, it
Speaker 1: was funny. It was surprising. I was screaming, it was stunts.
Speaker 1: I loved it, and she looked good. It was given
Speaker 1: like detox. If she could flip upside down detox, if
Speaker 1: she could flip upside down, if she could fully roundhouse
Speaker 1: kick a piece of wood. It was so crazy. I
Speaker 1: was like, it was so completely insane, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I thought, it was a great.
Speaker 1: I watched that lip sn twice because I think Amethyst
Speaker 1: has something you know what. Yes, when that started, I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: Irene Dubois gonna like wipe the floor with Amethist, because
Speaker 1: I feel like we had seen what we needed to
Speaker 1: see with Amethists. But then I'm watching it and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, Amethist wants it more and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like maybe she got nervous or something, or
Speaker 1: it was just a flop. But for Irene Dubois to
Speaker 1: come out with that talent of I'm gonna pour a
Speaker 1: glass of water, it just felt like Rue, from what
Speaker 1: I can Gauge might feel a little insulted by that, like, oh, really,
Speaker 1: you thought that this flop joke you were going to
Speaker 1: make about not trying, like the anti comedy of it all,
Speaker 1: Like you were going to come in here with that
Speaker 1: and I was going to be impressed with it, and
Speaker 1: the audience is going to be impressed with it. I
Speaker 1: think even if Irene had turned the lip sync harder,
Speaker 1: like Ru watched that talent and was like done with it,
Speaker 1: like don't waste my time. That feels like the number
Speaker 1: one thing with Rue, He's like I understand, like not
Speaker 1: everyone shares a sense of humor and a sensibility. But
Speaker 1: you can't come in here with that fucking bit, which
Speaker 1: anti comedy. Anti comedy is not going to work on
Speaker 1: Drag Race, No, because there were multiple references to Willows
Speaker 1: talent last season, and I think some of these girls
Speaker 1: are confusing something silly to be avant garde, Like they
Speaker 1: think like Willow doing like the spaghetti into the toaster
Speaker 1: into the bathtub is like the same thing as like Sasha,
Speaker 1: Sasha doing the rose petals. They think that's the bar,
Speaker 1: but it's like, no, like that's Willows bar, that's not
Speaker 1: your bar. And I think maybe Irene was trying to
Speaker 1: like do her version of that. Maybe that's my gas.
Speaker 1: You get the sense that, like the way she puts
Speaker 1: her looks together, she certainly cares, you know what, she's
Speaker 1: a really put together like, and she came into the
Speaker 1: workroom first. I mean, I think that they certainly were
Speaker 1: assuming more from that queen, But for that to be
Speaker 1: what she did, it's like I I kept waiting for
Speaker 1: like something else to happen, like oh, she'll do this
Speaker 1: water bit and then it will transition, because it can't
Speaker 1: just be this, And when it was just this, it
Speaker 1: was just like oh, communicately, you just don't have taste. Well, sure,
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I was telling Dole, it's funny
Speaker 1: to me that the themes this season are TikTok and Connecticut.
Speaker 1: Like this is very really weird, very weird, but very interesting.
Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean the amount of Connecticut queens who
Speaker 1: are like, what exactly is going on? Like not dragging.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like all the Connecticut queens were like fine,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like I wouldn't watch
Speaker 1: a single one of them, And I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: well there's something happening in Connecticut all the queens. I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, it feels like this is like
Speaker 1: the season fifteen casting, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: we're we're officially like you know, yeah, looking for him.
Speaker 1: No matter how this season turns out, like, no matter
Speaker 1: what our assessment of the season is, once it's done,
Speaker 1: I think this will have a very similar legacy to
Speaker 1: season seven, where seven was the first season that acknowledged
Speaker 1: Instagram queens. I think this is the first season that's
Speaker 1: actually like fully embracing the idea that like, no like
Speaker 1: drag queens are on TikTok now like yeah and I
Speaker 1: do appreciate there being one little nearer moment in the workroom,
Speaker 1: um where the girls were like yeah, I mean like
Speaker 1: we can't get into clubs, so like the way we
Speaker 1: learned draguas through social media, Like that makes total sense,
Speaker 1: totally makes sense. It does. And also I think that
Speaker 1: like the old narrative of like a queen maybe having
Speaker 1: to look over their shoulder and being like I don't
Speaker 1: respect her about a younger queen who like starts online
Speaker 1: like in an era of the pandemic, when literally those
Speaker 1: spaces were not there for young queens to develop. They
Speaker 1: had social media and they had the show to influence them. Like,
Speaker 1: you can't really be mad about someone never having performed
Speaker 1: when they were eighteen or seventeen when the pandemics started,
Speaker 1: maybe only found themselves in their their identity around that
Speaker 1: time or just before that time or even after that time,
Speaker 1: and then discovered that they have a talent with makeup
Speaker 1: or performance online and then they this is the way
Speaker 1: they find themselves on the show. I mean, like you
Speaker 1: can't really be superior in that sense anymore. That being said,
Speaker 1: am I always going to gravitate more towards a queen
Speaker 1: that is clearly cultivated, a live talent and a persona
Speaker 1: that's like historically like a drag queen, someone that could
Speaker 1: you could watch in the club, like you know, carry
Speaker 1: a whole night. Yes, that is going to be more
Speaker 1: what I want to see. But you can't look down
Speaker 1: your nose at the queens no more exactly. And I
Speaker 1: think this is good. We should all embrace that change. Gosh,
Speaker 1: Jack's was amazing. I jumping up with her hair is incredible.
Speaker 1: That that was incredible. Jack's to me, is an example
Speaker 1: of incredible talent. The aesthetic is bad, the aesthetic is
Speaker 1: capital be bad. It was. It was a week run round.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was a week overall you
Speaker 1: felt overall overall because the was so open ended that
Speaker 1: it's like you can literally do anything you are, like,
Speaker 1: show us the essence of you, and nothing really sticks out.
Speaker 1: I mean, who is ironically Irene's look was pretty memorable,
Speaker 1: it was, and and the twins. I like the twins.
Speaker 1: The twins looked good. I mean, they definitely looked good.
Speaker 1: Michelle dragging them for the long island of it all
Speaker 1: was so funny to me, and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I go to the Roosevelt Field Mall. I mean like
Speaker 1: she literally was like she googled her Long Island specifics
Speaker 1: and was dead on with every single one of them.
Speaker 1: We were screaming, are they from Long Island? Are the twins?
Speaker 1: And then I think they moved to l A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like me, just like you. When they said they
Speaker 1: were originally from Long Island, I lowered my head in prayer.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, the Long Island jokes that
Speaker 1: we're going to hear. And then I found out though
Speaker 1: they went to West Babylon High School, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: which is where I would have gone right next to you,
Speaker 1: had my parents not moved literally like I was in
Speaker 1: the West Babylon school district. Yeah, that's like an interesting
Speaker 1: little connection. You think they were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers from Icelip went to n y U and
Speaker 1: now he's on Showtime and now he's on Showtime. Um.
Speaker 1: But I would say is that their parents definitely live
Speaker 1: like right near my parents, and my parents live in
Speaker 1: West Babylon currently, So that was like I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: are they from West Babylon And then it all kind
Speaker 1: of made sense. I was like. And then, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I was like well, that's kind of
Speaker 1: nice that people can be that gay now totally and
Speaker 1: that I mean like those twinks are gay, but those
Speaker 1: twinks grew up in like, you know, a working class
Speaker 1: part of Long Island. Oh absolutely, and like no, I
Speaker 1: mean for sure. And that's the thing is, like, that's
Speaker 1: one cool thing about like having queens from different parts
Speaker 1: of the country that are not just like yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been in l A for years or I've been that
Speaker 1: that like you know, um, I think Ms Malaysia, Baby
Speaker 1: Doll Foxes from Houston. There was the first queen that's
Speaker 1: ever from Miami. Oh yeah, yeah, And I will say
Speaker 1: we were in Miami for New Year's and those queens
Speaker 1: at Drag Brunch were crushing. Those were some stellar queens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some pretty some pretty great us. And so when when
Speaker 1: they were like I'm the first Miami queen and the
Speaker 1: one queen was like, oh, Miami has some of the
Speaker 1: best drag It's crazy that there's not been a drag
Speaker 1: queen from Miami. I was thinking to myself, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is kind of funny. It is kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you about that sort of geographical
Speaker 1: variants where like Willow winning was kind of a huge deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, Willow and Ivy both being from Denver, not
Speaker 1: sincelecting the Flowers. It was like a pretty like big
Speaker 1: gap there for a while for Denver drag and I
Speaker 1: feel like, it's like fun, fun, fun scene for sure.
Speaker 1: I took you. I took that to Charlie's by the way.
Speaker 1: We had so much fun to Charlie. It was great.
Speaker 1: It was a fun time. You really stole the show.
Speaker 1: I didn't know such thing bone came out at my
Speaker 1: Denver show install That was matt show through and through.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was. I took so many pictures
Speaker 1: from back stage. It was so I'll say it again,
Speaker 1: I mean just so inspiring, so beautiful. Man, I'm so
Speaker 1: so proud of you, truly. Oh well, quickly wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about the Miley Dolly New Year Special, which we
Speaker 1: were at. Yes, I can't wait to talk about it.
Speaker 1: That was so much fun and so many happenings and
Speaker 1: spotting a lot of things. A lot of things happened.
Speaker 1: So let's I haven't even really sorted through my experienced
Speaker 1: my memories with it. So we get there. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: We get there and we check in and then on
Speaker 1: the paper. I see in big letters Paris Hulton. I go, oh,
Speaker 1: Paris is here. I wonder what she could be doing.
Speaker 1: And I had heard that she'd re released Stars Are Blind.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, she maybe gonna saying Stars are Blind.
Speaker 1: That would be fun, and I was I did not
Speaker 1: I did not connect the dots to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's gonna do it with either Miley or Dolly. And
Speaker 1: we get there literally right on time. We get there
Speaker 1: and like we do a quick little step and repeat
Speaker 1: moment um, they do a quick little bumper with the
Speaker 1: whole group. It was me, Hugh Patrick, Reagan, Jordan Ardino,
Speaker 1: who else? Nico was there, and then we basically get
Speaker 1: to this area, order some drinks, and then the show
Speaker 1: starts and then literally I tap you on the shoulder,
Speaker 1: I go, A Scala is behind us. Literally, a Scala
Speaker 1: was there. I turned around and lo and behold it
Speaker 1: was a Scala. And we find out that a Scala's husband,
Speaker 1: Dre is Latto's manager or like manager or something like,
Speaker 1: works on Latto's team, and Lato had just performed, which
Speaker 1: was also amazing. She was and Escala is going off
Speaker 1: and we go over to her immediately and we are
Speaker 1: just like a scala. We are your big fans, etcetera.
Speaker 1: She was so nice. We took a picture of her
Speaker 1: where like you always turned the fashion and she goes, well,
Speaker 1: how did I do tonight? And then when she looks
Speaker 1: down and gives it twere, We're like, she looks absolutely stunt.
Speaker 1: We took a little video. Send it to Candice Stillard Bassett,
Speaker 1: shout out of my girl, um who continues to be
Speaker 1: the star of Potomac. I'm as sesame Sesame Street is
Speaker 1: one of the highlights of the year. Sesame Street. I
Speaker 1: do not recognize Sesame Street characters. You need to go
Speaker 1: learn your numbers. Go learn your letters. Go read a
Speaker 1: book to a child. She said. She started with count
Speaker 1: count some letters. Count some numbers. Go read a book
Speaker 1: to a child. Go read a book to a child.
Speaker 1: I do not recognize Sesame Street characters. And then I
Speaker 1: we have to we have to shout out at drunk
Speaker 1: drawn incredible illustrations of Housewives Moments did an incredible, incredible
Speaker 1: long form caption about Deborah. It truly, I mean, wait,
Speaker 1: I have to read it, and this is I sent
Speaker 1: it to you and we both laughed our asses up.
Speaker 1: I have to read, Matt, do you mind? I think
Speaker 1: I think it does. Finding this Escala, we love you
Speaker 1: you were a joy. It was meeting you as the highlight.
Speaker 1: And then we also literally took a picture with Marissa Tomay.
Speaker 1: Incredible for that to be the last photo of that year,
Speaker 1: just like as if there needed to be one more
Speaker 1: like closing the loop moment for Marissa Tomay to be
Speaker 1: at that party so randomly and I's get a photo
Speaker 1: with her and get to connect with her over the
Speaker 1: fine island of it all. That was surreal. That was
Speaker 1: when we knew the year could end, period and it
Speaker 1: had to because it really was a little too on
Speaker 1: the nose with an hour left to go in the night,
Speaker 1: we meet Marissa Tomay and got a picture with her. Incredible,
Speaker 1: she was so sweet. Okay, can you read this caption? Yes,
Speaker 1: this is from at drunk drawn on Deborah. This is
Speaker 1: now a Debora at the Dick Magnets stand account. Oh child,
Speaker 1: I'm buzzing. D is for Deborah. Who knew would start
Speaker 1: off with such a bang? When I turned on the
Speaker 1: telly last night and saw a figure as tall as
Speaker 1: Big Bird, as fluffy as Mr sniffle Up, I guess
Speaker 1: as silly as Elmo and had the eyebrows of Oscar
Speaker 1: the Grouch. It was love. I'm in love, y'all. I
Speaker 1: levitated that ginger and stranger things. I'm running up that
Speaker 1: hilt to you, Deborah. You see, dear reader. Wow. Growing
Speaker 1: up Sesame Street was my jam. Those are my creatures,
Speaker 1: you see, you see, those are my features rule culture
Speaker 1: number ninety. Those are my creatures. Okay, oh this is
Speaker 1: this is amazing. Those are my creatures. Next next sentence,
Speaker 1: I'm an ernie moving on. Something arose in me when
Speaker 1: I saw Deborah and my furry So Deborah, baby girl,
Speaker 1: I see you. I believe you, I feel you, I
Speaker 1: love you. Believe And to the Debora haters, you're just
Speaker 1: jealous that your hair doesn't look like Beyonce's hair with
Speaker 1: the fan, have eyebrows like Peter Gallagher and the charisma
Speaker 1: of the fruit loops bird period dot step off. In
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, when Deborah walked into Karen's
Speaker 1: Spring Flank kickoff Celebration of Life taco party event, her
Speaker 1: sexuality filled the space. She couldn't help it. People men
Speaker 1: can't control themselves was around the d They transform into
Speaker 1: nineties teenage boys meeting Pamela Anderson. It's like that, y'all.
Speaker 1: It's primal. Men get into owners when they see Debra
Speaker 1: a k A nature's viagraph. Okay, and there's there's just
Speaker 1: so much it's poetry, so funny. Wow, Candice, Shout out
Speaker 1: to Candice. Shout out to Candice who gave us that.
Speaker 1: And I would say that was a highlight of the season.
Speaker 1: And thank god, because Housewives as a whole has been
Speaker 1: a little fucking dreary, babe like salt Lake. I actually
Speaker 1: stopped watching. Um, I can't stand the show. And Miami,
Speaker 1: thank God for it, Thank God for Miami. And I
Speaker 1: am so late to it, but I am catching up.
Speaker 1: I'm making up for lost time. Miami is good. Miami
Speaker 1: is in the top spot right now. Incredible. I mean
Speaker 1: I did see something, you know, some Bravo account, Bravo
Speaker 1: fan account to a meme of like, what is Bravo
Speaker 1: worthy is Miami? What's peacock worthy as salt Lake? And
Speaker 1: it's not not, no, like you know, um no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah not now. But yeah, there's also big news. I mean,
Speaker 1: like den Shaw, so should we get into it? Six
Speaker 1: and a half years in the can five years supervise release.
Speaker 1: And someone said that we actually called this. Someone said,
Speaker 1: we said this is the amount of time she would get,
Speaker 1: which roll the tape. But I didn't know that we
Speaker 1: called that. But I remember, like I went online after
Speaker 1: that was announced and people were upset that she didn't
Speaker 1: get more time. But like six and a half years
Speaker 1: and five years supervisor release, Like that's pretty much around
Speaker 1: what they were saying. It's not surprising at all. Six
Speaker 1: and a half years. Um, you know, federal judges across
Speaker 1: the bench are relatively border lenient on white collar crime.
Speaker 1: That's that's one thing. Secondly, she's agreeing to pay full
Speaker 1: of restitution, that's another thing. And and then the other
Speaker 1: thing is for these kinds of crimes, apparently commonly you
Speaker 1: only sort of of that. So doing the math, seventy
Speaker 1: eight months of that is um sixty six sixty six,
Speaker 1: So that's that is that is literally five and a half.
Speaker 1: That takes a year off, So you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: she's missing a lot of moments, she's missing a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff at home. It's wild. I mean, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what there is to say really, Like, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, there is a family that's
Speaker 1: being broken, but there are also thousands of lives that
Speaker 1: are also broken in the wake of it. Like it's
Speaker 1: just it's just sad. It's really rough. And I think
Speaker 1: that they were taking into account during the sentencing that
Speaker 1: she she claims to have like mental health concerns that
Speaker 1: contributed to her state of mind when she committed the crimes,
Speaker 1: which feels like a lawyer's you know, excuse that they
Speaker 1: gave her. But also, you know, she does have the
Speaker 1: young children, so if she wasn't sentenced to like sucking
Speaker 1: twelve years hard time, that might be why. I don't
Speaker 1: really know how any of it works, but yeah, she's
Speaker 1: officially going to a prison for a long time. There
Speaker 1: is also a thing to be said about if you
Speaker 1: agree to counseling for a mental health issue while you're
Speaker 1: in prison, that also helps lower then the amount of
Speaker 1: time you serve, So that could be part of it too,
Speaker 1: where she you know, probably her team was like, let's
Speaker 1: just say you were going through something, which you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure she was, but the judge literally was no nonsense.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, this happened before you were on the show,
Speaker 1: so you can't blame the show for like amplifying these issues,
Speaker 1: and it's hard for us to like confirm whether or
Speaker 1: not you were going through something at the time. He
Speaker 1: like pulled up the tech he like referenced the text
Speaker 1: messages where she was like gleefully being like l O
Speaker 1: L you're you know, get her to stop crying talking
Speaker 1: about like an elderly woman calling concern. Yeah, it's evil.
Speaker 1: I mean her her behavior was evil. And the thing
Speaker 1: is like with like a mental health like excuse, like
Speaker 1: for example, like a plea of insanity or whatever, not
Speaker 1: that that's what this was, but like it's like anyone
Speaker 1: that does anything like morally corrupt or wrong, like anyone
Speaker 1: could use that excluse, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: if there's if you kill someone, like there's something wrong
Speaker 1: with you, and like I guess it just depends like
Speaker 1: whether or not, like your lawyer wants to decide you
Speaker 1: plea insanity or not right like you're But it's it
Speaker 1: seems to me, like how exactly do you do you
Speaker 1: decide who gets away with that? Or like who's the
Speaker 1: expert that comes in and decides someone actually is disturbed
Speaker 1: enough and therefore it like changes their reasoning or motivation
Speaker 1: to do something evil like this like it feels a
Speaker 1: cop out ish to me. But you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I have no idea how any of this works. But
Speaker 1: for her to be like, oh, my mental health, it's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've all seen the show. We know that. And I
Speaker 1: have also heard from people that have worked around her
Speaker 1: that she is unwell, Like she is the kind of
Speaker 1: person that's like, if you do this, I'm gonna kill myself.
Speaker 1: If you do this, I'm gonna do it. Like she
Speaker 1: is someone who is constantly weaponizing like her own sanity
Speaker 1: or lack thereof, to like harm mothers, and like getting
Speaker 1: other people's way and and getting other people's heads about
Speaker 1: like how they're responsible for her, which is like, you know,
Speaker 1: she clearly needs a lot of help, and so maybe
Speaker 1: there was some assessment of that that went into the sentencing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I said, I don't know how
Speaker 1: it works, but like, it was really interesting that she
Speaker 1: made a point of saying all that when she spoke
Speaker 1: to the judge. And she also deliberately went out of
Speaker 1: her way to address her youngest child and not all
Speaker 1: of her children, which to me was trying to signal
Speaker 1: to the judge like, please be lenient in my sensence
Speaker 1: dancing so I can still experience life with my youngest child,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it seemed to me
Speaker 1: like tactical, like of course, yes, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say no part of it was emotional or honest or true,
Speaker 1: but there was a lot of tactical ship going on
Speaker 1: there till the very end to try to like get
Speaker 1: the sentencing down, which of course that's the lawyer's job,
Speaker 1: and I guess her job in that moment as the defendant.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was just very very interesting. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Lisa Rena is out. Lisa wren is out. I think
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. I really think they've lost to compelling. I
Speaker 1: mean I wasn't the biggest Rena fan, but like that
Speaker 1: is someone who kind of held it, held it together,
Speaker 1: was was kind of a glue for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean, Renna was one of the best of all times.
Speaker 1: When she was good, she was one of the best
Speaker 1: of all times. She gave us so many television moments.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's over, you know, I think
Speaker 1: she comes back in a few years. I think we
Speaker 1: see her on an Ultimate Girls trip. I don't think
Speaker 1: Lisa Rena has done you know, I just think it
Speaker 1: wasn't it. I don't think she's well either right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, she went through a trauma. She's not operating
Speaker 1: from a ground did place. It seems like maybe she
Speaker 1: needs to just take a fucking breath. But you know,
Speaker 1: as much as she was annoying on the show this
Speaker 1: last season and people haven't liked her, like she fills
Speaker 1: the role of antagonists on that show, she is the
Speaker 1: villain of the show and they will have to fill
Speaker 1: that spot. Um because Erica, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: she can do it by herself. She seems fucking tired
Speaker 1: to me. Also, who knows if she even stays. I'm
Speaker 1: sure she will because she needs a gig. Well, the
Speaker 1: thing the interesting not to go back to Jen, but
Speaker 1: like the interesting thing about Jen is like the judge
Speaker 1: was like, how are you going to make this money back? Like,
Speaker 1: like she's giving up six and a half million, but
Speaker 1: she also has to part of the sentencing was another
Speaker 1: six and a half billion had to be like paid
Speaker 1: back in restitution, and so the judges like, how are
Speaker 1: you going to make that money? And she was, well,
Speaker 1: my manager is here and we're figuring it out. And
Speaker 1: then the judge, she goes, well, like, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Sell merch? Like I don't see how this
Speaker 1: is going to happen for you, And so for Erica,
Speaker 1: like think all she has is the show, but Jen
Speaker 1: literally can't do the show unless they shoot from prison,
Speaker 1: so which which they won't do in Texas. No way.
Speaker 1: I think that the way that it was weird weirdly
Speaker 1: working was like all that merch that Jen was selling
Speaker 1: was literally saying like free jen Shaw like it was
Speaker 1: it was saying, and the and the judge brought that up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess she's gonna use that money
Speaker 1: that's from free gen Shawn Merged to pay back the
Speaker 1: victims of her crime she's saying she's guilty of. It's
Speaker 1: so we're being sympathetic in our discussion of her as
Speaker 1: a person, But I mean, she sucks. She's she's awful,
Speaker 1: and she's she's awful, and she's not essential to the
Speaker 1: show by any means, not in the way that Miriam
Speaker 1: Cosby is. She's bad bad television. Actively. I miss Mary
Speaker 1: so much. There are there there are hints she's hinting
Speaker 1: at coming back. We missed the days we missed the
Speaker 1: days of Mary truly just to return to the Miley
Speaker 1: Dolly of it all. Yes, speaking of iconography, if we're
Speaker 1: going to speak on Mary m Cosby's iconography, can we
Speaker 1: just say I feel that is going to be the
Speaker 1: year of Miley. I feel like Miley is back in
Speaker 1: a big way this year that I am excited. Like
Speaker 1: her announcement about her album like Endless Summer, I just think, yes,
Speaker 1: like give give us big summary l A Bops do
Speaker 1: for us what Katy Perry hasn't done in such a
Speaker 1: long time, you know what I mean, Like, let's give
Speaker 1: big hooks, Let's give party in the USA fourteen times
Speaker 1: on an album like Fun. Because I feel like my
Speaker 1: thing with Miley is because she knows how easy it
Speaker 1: is for her at any given time to be the
Speaker 1: most famous person in the world. She just I mean
Speaker 1: talk about stark Follers like she is. And by the way,
Speaker 1: in person, the beauty and it factor is real, It
Speaker 1: is wild. I mean, she is Miley Cyrus like she is.
Speaker 1: She is really that girl, and she's an amazing live performer,
Speaker 1: live singer and host Like that was really really a
Speaker 1: fun night and she was holding it all together. I
Speaker 1: mean she was doing that. But with her, it's like
Speaker 1: I often find that her experimental eras like even if
Speaker 1: they don't like necessarily pop off in terms of like
Speaker 1: a big mainstream success way. It's not that she's ever
Speaker 1: like in control of something that's gone badly. It's just
Speaker 1: that she's like, no, this is what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1: This is the way I'm gonna express myself, and don't
Speaker 1: worry about me being huge. I will be later, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. She always knows her way back.
Speaker 1: She's on her own timeline. Yeah, she she's just on
Speaker 1: her own timeline. Yes, exactly what you said. I mean,
Speaker 1: I do maintain that plastic hearts her. Her last album
Speaker 1: is excellent, Oh my god, so good, so high. Who um.
Speaker 1: She is someone who I'm gonna say, you forget that
Speaker 1: she is a Nippo baby. She she's transcended the label
Speaker 1: and and and the way that like, you know, let's
Speaker 1: say Jamie Lee Curtis has not not not a great example.
Speaker 1: It's totally Apple st Oranges. It's like it's like the
Speaker 1: talent is there, and I do think that star quality
Speaker 1: can be inherited, like just like you can inherit anything
Speaker 1: from like you you see Kate Hudson and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she inherited something from Goldie Haunt. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: There is something there that's like that makes sense by
Speaker 1: the way, Knives Out, Glass Onion gag very fun and
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson gives a Kate Hudson performance. So you're saying
Speaker 1: I'm dangerous? Are you saying dangerous? So funny? Janelle great?
Speaker 1: Janelle was great. She was great. I mean I I like,
Speaker 1: not that I already didn't have respect for her as
Speaker 1: an actor, but I was like, oh, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: like a new layer to her. It was fun, so fun.
Speaker 1: I am on an Agathe Christie kick, are you? And
Speaker 1: I recommend the same? I mean, you know, Aaron Jackson
Speaker 1: is like the ultimate Agatha Christie head. And it's taken
Speaker 1: me like a long time from you finally get like
Speaker 1: to like, you know, let me just pick up one
Speaker 1: of these books and it's so fun. It's so fun.
Speaker 1: It's like it scratches the same mitch that you would
Speaker 1: maybe have after watching like Knives Out or a Glass Onion,
Speaker 1: and you go, I just want like a fun, light,
Speaker 1: breezy little mystery that like kind of has all these
Speaker 1: fun little interlocking pieces too. It's great, so fun. I'd
Speaker 1: like a romp. It's it's it's gonna give you romp
Speaker 1: and quick quick reads. I'm reading Murder on the Links
Speaker 1: right now. It's one of her early ones. You know what.
Speaker 1: I just bought the sequel to Less. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been debating reading about I love the
Speaker 1: first book so much that I am like afraid to
Speaker 1: read the sequel. Lenny and I were in the bookstore.
Speaker 1: I went up and I handed the book to the
Speaker 1: girl and she goes, oh, yeah, this is good. It's
Speaker 1: not as good as the first one. And I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh, okay, oh but it's still good. I
Speaker 1: think she realized, like I was purchasing. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's still good. Though, it's still good. You'll like it.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's just you know, it's you know what
Speaker 1: sequels as good as the first one. And I was like,
Speaker 1: it's okay, I'm gonna buy it anyway. And she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can think of some sequels. The Way of Both,
Speaker 1: the Way of Water and then Paras Sultan Singing Stars
Speaker 1: are Blind. I mean, god, so fun. Sarah Sherman Chloe
Speaker 1: Fineman nailing hosting duties when C was like singing Paris,
Speaker 1: and Paris is like, oh sing Paris, Oh well, we
Speaker 1: love it, we love it. Let's quickly, quickly, quickly make
Speaker 1: an announcement about a show that's also just been announced,
Speaker 1: The Real Friends of West Hollywood, The Real Friends of
Speaker 1: West Hollywood. This podcast, Last Cultures is now officially identifies
Speaker 1: first and foremost as an ourfro wee ho recap pod
Speaker 1: our fro refro we ho um, the anagram of everyone's dreams.
Speaker 1: We are an official recap pod for the show. We
Speaker 1: will be just like watching with bated breath episode to episode,
Speaker 1: week to week to see what happens in the Real
Speaker 1: Friends of West Hollywood's fives, dissecting these compelling characters, these
Speaker 1: amazing arcs, and really really getting invested the Real Friends
Speaker 1: of West WeDo. It's like, tell me, you're not really
Speaker 1: friends without real friends. It's so funny. I'm open. I'm
Speaker 1: not even dragging. I'm not even peremptively dragging like could
Speaker 1: we Yes, i am open to it being an entertaining watch.
Speaker 1: It's what people have wanted secretly or not so secretly
Speaker 1: for a long time. But you just realize that. It's
Speaker 1: like some things are just it's tough to get everyone
Speaker 1: on board. And I would say largely, not that many
Speaker 1: people are on board, but we are. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's going to come on right after drag Race, which
Speaker 1: people are also going to have the TVs on. Well,
Speaker 1: people have an emoment, people have an emotional connection to,
Speaker 1: you know, mean girls, then drag Race then untucked like
Speaker 1: that what they that, that is what they want, that
Speaker 1: is what they're used to. And now you're getting, you know,
Speaker 1: fucking like the real friends the challenge into drag Race
Speaker 1: into the real friends like that, it completely sucks up
Speaker 1: there cushioning and so I mean, let's just quickly go
Speaker 1: down the list of these people. You know, it's so
Speaker 1: funny they stopped at friends. Whatever the market research was
Speaker 1: was like, no, friends is actually the best word for
Speaker 1: this instead of like days, I don't believe that these
Speaker 1: men are actually friends. Of course not that's my biggest
Speaker 1: qualm of going into it, as I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think the six of them are actually friends.
Speaker 1: Actually kind of know that, Um, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say to too much, but like they're they're not. This
Speaker 1: is a casting and I just think they could have
Speaker 1: come to l A and found a group of six
Speaker 1: or seven or eight people that were actually friends and
Speaker 1: just done that. But and I think that's come that's
Speaker 1: maybe the first miscalculation. It's like did not. And I
Speaker 1: don't understand how you could want to pattern this after
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives and not understand that Housewives works better
Speaker 1: when you're watching an established group of people with history
Speaker 1: and steaks. But I digress. I think where it gets
Speaker 1: a little distorted as status, Like I personally have no
Speaker 1: issue with Housewives franchises where I don't know any of
Speaker 1: these people, like these women going in right, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And so the fact that that
Speaker 1: you have Brad and Todrick and James Vaughant, like it's like, uh, people,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like, do they have to be
Speaker 1: people that are like mildly exposed? Like I agree with
Speaker 1: what you're saying. It's like it should just be like
Speaker 1: a group of gays in West Hollywood who work different jobs.
Speaker 1: Let's say, I don't even I don't even know, like
Speaker 1: I it's it's it's just I think, not this, it's
Speaker 1: not this. Do you know what I'm saying and well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna find out immediately when the conflict is like
Speaker 1: canned that they went ahead and cast this, Whereas like,
Speaker 1: what excites me about like a first episode of something
Speaker 1: is like when the conflict feels really specific and small
Speaker 1: and could only be between these two people. Like if
Speaker 1: if the conflict feels broad in the first episode, we're
Speaker 1: gonna know like, oh, they're trying too hard to make
Speaker 1: this a thing. The reason Salt Lake City took off
Speaker 1: was because it smells like hospital. Literally, it was like,
Speaker 1: we're off to the races and we've never let go
Speaker 1: of the rocket ship since the Rocketship Race. We're off
Speaker 1: to the rocket ship races, and I feel like there
Speaker 1: is I don't really see potential for that in this
Speaker 1: because I also don't think these are like can't be
Speaker 1: larger than life characters, except for maybe Taddrick. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to be surprised. I hope it's fun and funny,
Speaker 1: and I hope that, like you know, there's positive representation,
Speaker 1: and I hope it's ultimately, like you know, a good
Speaker 1: compelling show. I just wonder if we've already shot ourselves
Speaker 1: in the foot by not following an authentic group of
Speaker 1: friends that the audience could discover because it's or it's
Speaker 1: like getting a coloring book and it's like half colored in.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It's like Burial already has
Speaker 1: red hair. And what's coming to me is that maybe
Speaker 1: viacom MTV was a little freaked out by the way
Speaker 1: Fire Island the show was received, where it literally was
Speaker 1: like a group of like just like gay men who like,
Speaker 1: we're friends with each other vaguely, who didn't know going
Speaker 1: in as an audience. So maybe they were like, let's
Speaker 1: try to like veer the other way, and so that
Speaker 1: might explain it. This just kind of is my slipshod
Speaker 1: like way of justifying that. Yeah, I think that. Also,
Speaker 1: it's like, at the very least, like they got well,
Speaker 1: I don't know about everyone on this cast, but like
Speaker 1: a few of them are really talented, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Brad currently Grey stylist, I mean Toddrick, I
Speaker 1: mean Dadrick is talented, very talented actor. Yes, And I
Speaker 1: mean like, so they got a bunch of very dynamic
Speaker 1: people to be on the cast. I guess I'm just
Speaker 1: curious to see how it's gonna fly out because I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I know they did get some people
Speaker 1: that worked on Housewives to work on it, Like some
Speaker 1: of the producers are Housewives producers, So they're going to
Speaker 1: try to make this as much in the image as
Speaker 1: they possibly can. I mean, I'm just curious. In any case,
Speaker 1: this will be um A recap hodo, we recap pod,
Speaker 1: recap pod, So stay tune, I mean, and we encourage
Speaker 1: you all to watch along with us since we can
Speaker 1: all be we're all starting in the same level, and
Speaker 1: you know, just it's fun to just have conversations about this.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say it's fun to have conversations. I think
Speaker 1: that's ruler culture number six. It's fun to have conversations.
Speaker 1: It's time for I don't think so honey. This is
Speaker 1: if you're just joining us now and media rez, this
Speaker 1: is our one minute segment that we do to really
Speaker 1: get something in culture that deserves to be dragged. And
Speaker 1: I think there's something that's screaming up from the culture
Speaker 1: that is top of my list for I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: and I'm ready, okay, this is Matt Rodgers is I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Money's time starts now. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone leaving Selina the list of the two hundred
Speaker 1: greatest singers fuck off. This is so shameful and it's
Speaker 1: bitter and it's personal. I don't know how. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the collective issue that Rolling Stone must have
Speaker 1: with Selen Dion, but to leave her even off a
Speaker 1: top ten greatest singers list would be debatable at least
Speaker 1: two hundred. Are you crazy if you pull I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. If you think that you're not going
Speaker 1: to pull all of those singers and they wouldn't even
Speaker 1: say she's one of the greatest singers of all time,
Speaker 1: ask the list that you are in itself for shame.
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous talking about people say that Mariah like
Speaker 1: and Whitney cultivated like the modern pop so downd Selene
Speaker 1: was right up there with it. Rolling Stone, this is terrible.
Speaker 1: S top five. Shame on you, Rolling You really had
Speaker 1: me fooled, and you two Stone death to all of them.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful, man, and thank you for saying that it
Speaker 1: is not for nothing. But now now at a time
Speaker 1: where she is publicly really weakened and suffering, and so
Speaker 1: it's such a such a state of depression because she
Speaker 1: can't perform. You're gonna kick her while she's down. Now,
Speaker 1: it is cruel, it's incorrect, and it is it feels
Speaker 1: like really tasteless to me, really tasteless for me. Like
Speaker 1: as soon as I heard that you wasn't on it,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, then I'm not gonna it wasn't
Speaker 1: even that, Like I, first of all, I worships they
Speaker 1: never have worshiped my whole life. But it just makes
Speaker 1: it completely like ice is that whole list out in
Speaker 1: my mind. I'm like, I'm not going to read that.
Speaker 1: I can't take it seriously. It's like you have to
Speaker 1: be able to like wink through it somehow. And like
Speaker 1: Rob Sheffield, whoever the funk at Rolling Stone, like the
Speaker 1: people who make these lists, the music editors there are
Speaker 1: all well and good. I just sometimes they really like
Speaker 1: to troll the way that like you and I like
Speaker 1: to with our lists. But it's like we do it
Speaker 1: in a way that's like truly frivolous Stone though we're not.
Speaker 1: We're not like an actual respected publication that you should
Speaker 1: read and be like, yes, like I can take this
Speaker 1: as somehow word is bond, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like and then they're stupid fucking thing that they said
Speaker 1: after Remember, this isn't Top two hundred greatest voices. This
Speaker 1: is Top two hundred greatest singers. And there is talent
Speaker 1: and then there is genius. I'm like, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: you want to talk about technique and you want to
Speaker 1: talk about genius. You want talking about singing, the way
Speaker 1: that Celine Dion uses her voice, the way that she
Speaker 1: uses her breath, her control, her access her range. Like,
Speaker 1: are you crazy? Like voices versus singing? And that's how
Speaker 1: you're going to distinguish. That's how you're going to justify
Speaker 1: leaving Celine Dion off. It's too much, it's too much,
Speaker 1: um whatever. I literally having nothing to do with this list,
Speaker 1: Like just subscribe to Rolling Stone just because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: like they do good reporting. Um, but this is this Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is beyond the pail. Okay, it was completely beyond
Speaker 1: the pail. Bow That's what I said. Okay, and listen.
Speaker 1: So what I want to say to you right now
Speaker 1: is that it's your time. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: do you have something on today? I do? I do?
Speaker 1: This is bowen yan. I don't think so, honey. As
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. London not
Speaker 1: embracing its pub food roots and only, and everywhere you
Speaker 1: go there's pizzas us, there's shake shock, there's fucking like
Speaker 1: things that don't belong, that do belong in London, but
Speaker 1: aren't about London. I want you know me. I love
Speaker 1: meat pies and there is no good place to get
Speaker 1: meat pie in London. The worst pies in London. There
Speaker 1: are no pies in London to speak of. Mrs Mrs
Speaker 1: Lovett found dead. I'm over here going. It took me
Speaker 1: four different tries today, Matt true story to order a
Speaker 1: meat pie off of the delivery service. All I wanted
Speaker 1: was a nice chicken pie, because that is British. It's authentic,
Speaker 1: it's delicious, it's comforting, it's a rainy day in London.
Speaker 1: That's all I wanted. Why does it make it so hard,
Speaker 1: the cultural leader, there's so many roadblocks to having an
Speaker 1: authentic London experience. London, embrace your identity, closed down some
Speaker 1: of the pizzeria's, we don't need them, turn them into
Speaker 1: pie shops. That's one minute. That's one minute. You know.
Speaker 1: Sudy just got back from London. As well, after Send
Speaker 1: spending her New Year's there, and she was also in
Speaker 1: Dublin and she whets the food is abject bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: the food is not bad in London. London has an amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing dining landscape. I'm just saying, every now and then
Speaker 1: I want to order a pie off, specifically a meat pie,
Speaker 1: a meat pie, and I'm going, why is this so hard?
Speaker 1: I've I've had amazing dining experiences in London. I just
Speaker 1: wish there was a broader range of things and use cases.
Speaker 1: I want to pie. I'm sure other people do too.
Speaker 1: It's I want bubble and squeak. I want these authentic
Speaker 1: British foods. Do you know what I mean? Anyway? You know, um,
Speaker 1: this is what I was saying. Sometimes when you're in
Speaker 1: a certain environment and you're doing something like eating a
Speaker 1: meat pie in London, it can recall Sweeney Todd and
Speaker 1: then you might lose your apposite because you look down
Speaker 1: at your pie and you think, is this a human?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Is this a human? Is
Speaker 1: this the cat? Is this a cockroach? It's like when
Speaker 1: you watch the movie No and then you get your body,
Speaker 1: You're like, is the note monster? Eating in my butt
Speaker 1: that monster. I didn't like her when she died though,
Speaker 1: that was a gag sorry spoiler. When when she blew
Speaker 1: up the final form of that monster, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what am I looking at? It was
Speaker 1: so big, first of all, so big. I wonder if
Speaker 1: Kiki was gagged when she finally saw the moving and
Speaker 1: that's what the monster looked like. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: ask her that. We're gonna have to ask her that. Kiki.
Speaker 1: Go look up Kiki's Instagram or TikTok. She's talking about
Speaker 1: how she finally got clear skin. It's the funniest thing
Speaker 1: you've ever seen. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 1: We're going to have so much to discuss with her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Next week Kicky Plumber and this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a big year for Last Cultures discuss. I
Speaker 1: think we're taking it up the next level. We're taking
Speaker 1: it up the next level. Some fun moments, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're it's gonna be balanced, it's gonna be gaggy,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. We're gonna really get into it
Speaker 1: with some fun people. Fair and balanced. I wonder where
Speaker 1: I've heard that before. Fair and balanced is is our
Speaker 1: tagline for our new season, Fair and balanced. Should we
Speaker 1: moderate the debates whenever they happen? Should they have lost week?
Speaker 1: But that's not what you said, you said to her.
Speaker 1: I think Lost culturestis a live experience, should be like
Speaker 1: a debate show. That's really good. You know, that's really good.
Speaker 1: We're still dealing with the repercussions of culture, which was
Speaker 1: what seven years ago, and there are still there's still
Speaker 1: some some wounds that have not been some shot. So
Speaker 1: we'll see, you know what what deals wounds time time.
Speaker 1: And that reminds me of a song. It really does,
Speaker 1: and we in every episode with a song. If you
Speaker 1: will catch you, I'll be it to u. Damn chime.
Speaker 1: It's not a key change, okay, modulation. The other day
Speaker 1: you're off key and I was like, you're just like Lenny.
Speaker 1: He's not just like me. It's too early for that, Lenny.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't listen to the pot anymore, is what
Speaker 1: I hear. But I'm gonna I'm gonna have some words
Speaker 1: with Lenny. No Ah fighte up, Bye bye.