WEBVTT - #Throwback Episode - w/ Steve Stoute & Tone of Trackmasters | (Ep.105) 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.200 He's drink Champs, motherfucking podcast man, he's a legends eary 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:16.960 Queen's rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:17.760 He ain't agreed? 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.960 Is your boy in O R E. He's a Miami 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.640 hip hop yoneer. Put up his DJ E f N. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.720 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.880 you know what I mean, and the most professional unprofessional 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.760 podcast and your number one source for drunk. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:32.519 Drink Champs mother. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.960 Every day is New Year's e. That's it's time for 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.600 drink Champs. Drink up mother, mother. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.760 Would it good be? Hopefully what it should be? It's 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.680 your boy in O R what up? It's d J 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.200 E f N and it's drink Champs. 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.040 Have y'all make some. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.040 Fucking u. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.000 And right and right now proud to announced that we 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.440 are standing in front of two icons. So I'm saying 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:05.040 that beyond legendary, this guy, one person, single handedly changed 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.840 the way hip hop is being promoted, changed the way 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:12.440 marketing is being handled advertisement. He has finessed every hip 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.760 hop sneaker in the world has to have to have 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.760 a connection to him somehow, some way. And then the 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.759 other guy is one of the most powerful groups, one 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.240 of the people personally I personally old tone because after 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.959 I look at n R album, I always say, damn, 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.120 I should have made track Master's executive producer because you 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.320 guys was really their intricate in that whole album, and 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.080 that's the album that made me a star. So in 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.360 case these motherfuckers don't know who we're talking about, we're 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:39.080 talking about. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.480 Steve Stout and Total track Masters, make some. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:46.280 Style. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.920 I want to start with you. You they say the 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.000 origins of your career started with Kidding Play. Is that correct? 0:01:52.080 --> 0:02:03.600 Yeah, Damne, Okay, I started as their road manager, so 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.400 you know, it's it's been a long journey since then. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:12.120 But like they put me on straight up, Like I 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:17.040 got introduced to Whiz through a mutual friend and him like, okay, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.440 that's how I got on right. 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.360 So now in the beginning, because you said. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.320 You was the road manager, would you just say I 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.760 wasn't even the road manager, and I was just I 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.679 was the roade. That's that's that's not the rest of 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.200 the guy who checks in for the road manage. Give 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.400 me advanced man, that's what I was. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:39.120 Let's make some noise. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.920 Specific street case. I still don't know what that is. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.000 It looks fantastic, what is that it's Jonnkanese wskeuy just 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:44.800 knowing about that? 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:45.400 What is that? 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.280 This is no no, no, no, no no no, this 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:49.000 is open. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:56.799 Oh my god. He wanted some cigars, just tidads part 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:03.519 against you know, just like work. We're gonna do this conversation. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.760 I don't want to move back nothing. Honestly, I'm going 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.680 to get into this really really deep. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:15.480 Journalists a whole while. But his his his. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.080 You had an internet video on the internet recently that 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.080 blew my mind. I think I called you and I 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.440 told you I had a great idea because you were 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.640 in Italy. I believe you were in customs, right, and 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.480 these guys were trying to get you to pay for 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:30.120 the wines. 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.080 I didn't understand it. Okay, you tell your wine. I 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:34.920 was bringing it back home and were charged me right. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:39.280 But the crazy thing was I was I was around 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:39.760 a couple of. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.400 My friends and we was googling the actual bottles that 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.840 you had, and this is some exclusive ship Like I 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.320 felt like, I said, yo, this is rat class Like 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.800 he's literally like I real because I spent money on 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.800 alcohol and I literally don't know what I'll be doing, 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.760 like just spending and these were there was a particular types. 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.520 Of wines, right. It described that well, I can't remember 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.400 what it what. I had an assortment that was going 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.720 on vacation. I had to stop. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.800 Uh had a business thing and then I was going 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.800 on vacation afterwards, and I just wanted to as in 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:19.279 case I got there. It Actually it's what. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.080 I drink on a regular basis, not go want to 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.880 drink like that's what. It just goes there like everything else, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.080 Like you know, you don't smoke the same weed you 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:27.640 used to smoke. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.520 There's no no, just keep changing the ship. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.520 Right, So that's what it was, and they got they're 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.960 flavoring over there in customs anyway. They just hit you 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.680 with some wild Italian ship and just want you to 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.599 just write a check for l scared. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:44.440 And ship because it's a talent. 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:46.880 Yeah, but I'm like, it's Italian wine that shouldn't be 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:47.680 paying customs on this. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.080 I bring it on, okay. Not tone? 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:55.000 You was red hot tone, right hot love of tone? 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.440 Red hot love of tone? So you did you start 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.160 as an artist? 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.680 I started as I started as an artist who couldn't 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.760 find a producer. When I started producing my own music, wow, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.480 So then I became a producer, and then when did 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:09.160 the artist thing? 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.040 After? You know what, I produced a couple of weeks. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.760 What do you enjoy more being an artist or being 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.240 a producer producer? I don't remember. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.160 One year, Tom, This is right after I believe it 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.920 was wedding and I came to you and and I 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.400 asked you. I said, Tom, I want a commercial record. 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:32.000 And you said yes, I might have great worded it 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.880 radio record, right, and your exact words need to see 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:40.440 was now? He said, I feel like, all right, Nas 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.240 was a star from Illmatic, right, he was a star, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.240 but he wasn't a superstar. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.680 Then after he worked with track masters, arguably that was his. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.680 Moment of superstarting. And I felt like at first you 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:54.160 you you. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.760 Didn't like that because you kind of made him commercial 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:57.720 a little bit? 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.480 Or was that hard the merch. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:04.520 We got? 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:05.680 I didn't even know there was merch? 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:10.440 I like that, Okay, we don't know an. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.600 Mister Lee, can you brother be careful? You know your style. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.919 You're not that good, so so what's the question. It 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.400 was not because at the time like. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:28.400 For commercial, yeah, you absolutely, I'm glad you did. I 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.200 remember what you said after that too, You want me 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.320 tell you what you said? You said, you said NAS was. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.159 The king of the Hood, and people getting they mad 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:37.880 at me because I gave him these records. And he 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.680 turned and he said, right now, you're the prince of 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.040 the Hood, and I'll give you all the hard records 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:42.480 in the world. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.160 You gave me, You gave me. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.280 All the hard records in the world, but you were 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.919 staying away from like doing what you allowed L. E. 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:51.960 S To produce. So I think I had a record 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.360 with L. E. S. Chickle the barge. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:58.040 So so when NAS first received that commercial success, what 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.080 you receiving backlash or something like that. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.360 We were We received backlash from the moment it was 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.120 announced that track Masters were producing. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:09.400 It was never announced like that. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.320 Well it got out. It leaked out actually, so everyone 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.760 was was afraid that NODS would be commercial when we 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:17.800 would funk it up. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.560 Basically, you know what, what. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.239 Were you guys already before that, like what what tracks 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.680 that people were worried about it. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.680 I think we had just finished. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.080 You had just finished l all but before that ship 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.880 that broke off was the so so for real? 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.680 Maybe so leading more towards R and B exactly. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.200 Yeah, what we did, I mean the river that you 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.600 that popped before that, didn't you do. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:47.960 On the run? 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:57.560 But on the run L Street blue out, dis right, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:58.760 don't get jigging with it. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.520 Yeah no, it's walk now. He didn't get jiggying up 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:03.720 with it. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.440 He's the whole ship. And you know he was like 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.600 he couldn't you're getting right to the Naz. I wouldn't 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:17.720 get back to the because yes, no, no, that's important, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:23.920 the uh Naz. It was written when you're coming off 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.040 of illmatic, the. 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.880 Issue I'd had, and you didn't manage him illic No, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:31.280 I was trying to manage him. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.800 And then right at the day I was going to 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.880 meet him to get the whole ship going, was right 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.160 after the Sauce Awards are the ones, the one where 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.120 you know Snoop came out New York Don't got no 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.840 love for okay, and now they got NASA got locked up. Yeah, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.400 Na's got locked up some ship and like the record 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.360 company wouldn't even give him money to get his shirt, 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.800 like it was some crazy, dumb, stupid ship. And I 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.600 had just gotten a hold of him and just start 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.760 took the people keeping you away from him, you know, 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:07.559 like and like when we made it was written, it 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.199 was like, how could you not make I Rule the 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.079 World with Lauren Hill, like it makes perfect sense. That 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.199 is a hip hop record, I Rule the World. It 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.280 is a hip hop wrecking like it didn't make a 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.120 difference what anybody said. And I felt like everyone kept 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.040 on coming up to me or coming up to them saying, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.679 all y'all fucking nas up. I felt like it was 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.640 every artist that just didn't want that good looking, young 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:27.480 rapping nigga to. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:31.680 Be a superstar. They wanted him to stay it's like down. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.880 They wanted him to be like g Rapp. They wanted 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.439 him to be like the underguy, but never make it. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.600 I'm like, no, fuck all of you guys, every single 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.520 one of you guys. Fuck all of you guys getting 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.520 all the money. And if it was Biggie or Tupac 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.200 or Tribe or this or ever, it didn't even make 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:49.640 a difference. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.280 Whoever, we got the full package. Now that was your 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.320 idea to put a nads and track masses together. Yeah, 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.719 I was already working with Tony and Polk. I was 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.679 managing them and it was nas It was perfect right, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.679 And did you know did you know the impact that 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.880 you think what you said? Okay, I like, I like 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:12.440 the confidence got damn confidence. Man, this is what we're 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:13.959 gonna fill up on some drinks. What we were doing 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.640 telling you don't want to you right now we have tiger, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:18.960 We got taga. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.880 We gonna get the tiger bone in the second baby 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:26.679 something that you Now, I want you to break that 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.440 down because what. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.160 Kind of the guard? What what you know? 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:30.840 We're from the hood. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.000 If you be smoking cigars just to just to put 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.920 weeding them, I wanted to start smoking cigars. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.840 I want to start ship class. I want to start. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:44.559 Don't want you have doubts me. I got pictures on there. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:49.320 Hey, I'm not I'm not you like that's a called hebra, right, I. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.760 Guess this is a you can tell. Okay, that's a 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.280 fifty four. Now I'm saying the price. That's the price. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.800 That's the gauge. That's the gage of size. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.880 Miss fly right now, I smoked the guard that I'll 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:04.160 take it. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:05.120 Man. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.760 It's some fly ship, man, it's some fly hip right there. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.599 Good and now now red wine? Why is why is 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.520 is the bad wine more expensive? Is the most expensive 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:15.400 than white wine? 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.800 No? This is some specive white. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:22.319 Big I got one right here? How much is that 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.400 the painting on who you buy it from. This is coach, 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.320 this is white Burgundy, this goes. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:36.480 Had that get cry from friends? Now stout. They told 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.600 me that your friends with Tom Brady? Is this true? 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.280 Who the fuck is friends of Tom Brady's not gonna 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:48.600 lie only god, I know, I know Tom Brady. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:49.920 We used to hang out. We used to play college 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:56.600 with Tom Brady. This great Tom Brady story set. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.200 Like I know Tom Brady. Yeah, I. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.559 Don't have yes, yes, yes, I know a lot of 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.840 people have been around it. Don't got Tom Brady number, 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:07.400 got damn. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.160 To hang out that button man, You talk that Tom 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.800 Brady would play on a Sunday Tom all right before 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.160 he did the TV twelve ship, he was doing all 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.120 the regular human ship. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.800 He was doing humans ship. We knew Tom Brady to 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.760 be a human. Now you also was working with Genius. Correct, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:30.840 you have a steak in Genius. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:31.640 I'm on the board. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:34.200 I don't know what that means. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:35.160 I know it's from Flash. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:35.960 I just. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.439 I just doing some fly ship right there. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.280 Okay, Now it was a time where Tupac was actually 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:44.400 beefing with Masters. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.360 Correct what what what was that like for for you guys? 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:54.040 Because that was two total icons that would that you know. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.800 I'll tell you the story. Okay. So I was working 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:57.400 at Innis Corp. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.960 At the time, and I had heard the Tupac album 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.120 and he had that song where he was shipped on 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.880 just hit him, hit him, shipped on everybody, and he 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.200 shipped on Oas and but not. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.120 Don't hit him up, hitting on Naves on a different record. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.000 But I know what you're talking about. It was on 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:14.319 the same It was you. 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.319 You're absolutely right, it was him, Nas and Malty. I 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:18.320 was thinking on. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:19.240 Everybody and then. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.040 Like I spoke to Nads about it and we were 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.760 at the it was the MTV Awards in New York, 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.599 which was it was tense. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.520 Because it was Death Row East and you know whatever 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.599 that looked like and what it dethroast was just the 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.360 homies from the New York right. Well, it was Eric 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:39.800 b was. 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.040 Was the president of Death Row East and we were 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.480 in Brian Park that that that that that that those 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:52.199 awards with because bone Thugs destroyed the show. They opened it, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.400 they shut that fucking thing down. And then anyhow, and 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.319 it was tense and big and puff and all that. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.679 It was gonna be there and it was supposed to 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.480 have been ninety five because Jay was there and uh 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.480 we went to Brian Park and Sons NAS was there 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.640 and we seen them guys coming and it was it 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.760 was deep and the Nas made a call and then 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.480 it was it got really tense in the middle. But 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.800 I did see in the beginning Nas and Tupac when 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.720 they got into the center and it was all around them. 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.400 Tupac was like, Yo, you're the king of New York man. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.640 This it was like, no disrespect. It was that kind 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.080 of conversation. And Shug came running in like he got 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.080 there like like twenty seconds after the fact. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.360 And ran in boom boom boom boom boom boom boom 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.600 boom boom, and. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.040 It was like around the situation going like yo, what's 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.720 going on? You know, like and started and he looked at. 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.320 Me, like, what are you doing? I just seen you 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.600 in La in a scope. Yeah, he looked at me, 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.800 recognized me from being within his scope. But he still Meanwhile, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.880 you know, Jungle got the motherfucking on this nigga, and 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:59.360 it's looking I'm looking at the toe. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.160 I'm look He's get at me, and I can see 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.440 the toast on him, and like these two guys going out. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:10.840 It was a very tense situation that thankfully worked out. Okay, 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.200 it worked out okay that night, because it could have 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.640 been really ugly that night. You know, they were in 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:18.200 New York. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.240 And you know, you know, of course, of course, So yeah, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:22.920 I want to hear it get more because you know, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.680 I never met Tupacs, so you know, I want to, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:25.280 like I want to. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:26.200 We're gonna come. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.720 Back to it, definitely, We're coming on the twentieth. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.400 This is the twentieth or twenty one anniversary of the 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:37.000 firm in my correct twenty as long as drenth. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:42.840 Of the matter is, you know what, Like, I don't 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.040 want to give everything an anniversary like that, but twenty 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.280 years deserve the twenty except the album. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.760 Well, the album could have been better. The album should 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.360 have been better. If it's too much talent, it was, 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:56.160 it was a monument. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.160 I don't like that. Man, I don't think you feel 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.680 like that. I think this. Tell me. That's what I 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.200 think about everything. Twenty years. Okay, that's how I think 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:03.520 about it. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.240 I think Down was dope. We just I think we 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:07.760 dropped the wrong first scene. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:13.160 What phone top That wasn't the first Yeah, yeah, well no, 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.800 it was a lot of different things. I mean it 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.440 was it was you guys were making the get the 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.800 Will Smith album down here, and yeah, doctor Drake came 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:22.240 down here. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.920 We were we were in a milliate a Stefan studio 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.160 down here. We had the whole ship lockdown, and we 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.760 were making Will Smith's album. Uh, finishing the ours record, 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:32.560 big of my man. 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.840 Estabaugh's Kitchen is one of my favorite restaurants. I had 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.600 to throw that out there. Is a fantastic first he's 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:40.680 he's fantastic. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.920 You know, he got like a mister Child style a restaurant. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.960 You know, he has two thousand employees. God damn space, 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.040 He's tremendous. Was the craziest member. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.440 He was buying blocks down here, all the shipped down 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:57.320 here with your spiders. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:58.280 He was, he was. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:02.240 He was buying blocks down here twenty years ago for 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.520 a half a million dollars for the entire block. And 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.040 he was buying them im parcels. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.359 God damn it, stole keep talking. Yeah, and is fucking 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.360 nuts here go he owns all those kids, the motherfucker. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.600 He's when you be low, you buying. So who's the 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.760 craziest member of the front. Throw it out there, Go 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.800 for it, Go boy, come on. Now you hear out, 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.920 you're hearing out stuff crazy crazy in old way, crazy easy. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.640 It could be great, it could be bad, it could 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.440 be whatever. They know, you know what so funny about 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.159 this show. They know like let the alcohol kick in. 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:37.239 There. 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.320 There's pre and this post. Somebody's job is to look 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:48.760 at everybody's eyes. And he just came out. It's all 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.000 to Jim. It's about pacing this off. You know, there's 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:53.240 there's no water. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.680 No, we got water for we got water, got your bag, 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.720 hang out my water water we're professional bus. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.840 Oh, Rather, what was the craziest session, like a firm session? 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:04.359 What was. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:07.760 Craziest firm session? 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:13.080 I mean the bends with mhm my solo though not 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:14.520 the firm. You didn't go up there when we were 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.280 there recording, not for the firm. You would when fifty 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.720 was up there. Yeah, when I was doing something, you know, 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.560 I never Yo, we gotta talk about it. But that document, Yo, 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.440 me and you. We're getting there now, we're going there. No, 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.240 no't worry about We're gonna get there. Werena have to 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:32.880 get there. We're gonna get there. I'm problem, We're gonna 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.960 get take a sessions. I was by the way, I 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:39.120 was just orchestrating everything. Maybe we had this whole entire time. 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:44.840 You fifty yes, nah, yes, the firm, the thing, what's 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:45.280 his name? 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:47.840 The nigga from my neighborhood that I put on that 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:49.600 turned into a fucking psychopath. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:55.880 Okay, the little producer dude shot money. Oh all these 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:56.639 guys he didn't have. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.000 You know, let me let me tell you something stuff. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:00.879 I always you felt like. 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.399 Drying into a psychopath because I think that this is 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.680 how I feel about everything. If somebody puts you on 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:17.119 in life in any way, shape or form, that's it. 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.800 Man. You disrespect for Ami. It's disrespectful effort. You see 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:22.680 what what you just said? 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:23.040 You got it. 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.240 I was a roadie, I got kidding, played Wiz, I 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:27.840 met Wiz DJ Whiz. 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.040 I would not be here where I am right now 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.320 if it wasn't for DJ Whiz putting me on full stop. 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.760 It's how it goes. And if I'm in your business, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.040 like when you got guys hair, you did shit like 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.919 I don't think that anyone should be shipped on. If 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.400 they're pushing culture forward and they're trying to get shit done, 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.040 and I think people they make a sport out of 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:50.800 it because It's easy to make a support out of 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.480 it and sensationalize making fun of somebody or shitting on 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.680 somebody or whatever whatever. But at the end of the day, 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:01.399 like it's our job together to push this thing forward. 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.960 That's why I'm here. I'm here because I've watched this 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.480 man bro and I would have never done this. I 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.280 didn't even fuck with him at all. I used to 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.200 fuck with him and I could not stand with his 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:18.200 Don't that says not let's let's go. Haven't had a shot? 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.840 But no? What was what was one of the craziest 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.879 firm sessions? What was the one that stand out to you? 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.240 There were none with the were but your home? Open 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.440 the door, my man is at the dog. We got you? 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.600 There were none? Or they were you said, it's rich 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:34.440 Paul at the dog. 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:36.560 Hey, yo, has hold that up for one second? 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:37.800 Check this out. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:42.040 Drenk Chance Army reproductive rights are human rights right. 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No one should 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.480 be able to take away your access to birth control. 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:26.560 Not politicians, not your boss, not anyone. Text Champs to 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:30.480 to two for to two, and Planned Parenthood will periodically 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.960 text you ways to fight back. Message and data rates 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:34.520 may apply. 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.240 Because was this your first time collaborating with doctor Dryden? 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.960 Yeah, I think I think the most memorable thing. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.840 Up in Miami. It was a fight Doctor Dre's man 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.080 kicked somebody. It was some crazy shit. 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.600 You don't remember name, Damn you do remember that as fuck. 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.320 There were some crazy stories in Miami. Man Will Smith 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:53.840 got mad. 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:54.960 Nobody was. 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:57.520 We don't want to put Will Smith on an album? 0:21:58.359 --> 0:21:58.520 Is that? 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.840 What happened was snapping on doctor Dred. 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.159 You know, Will got jokes. 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:07.879 Will got jokes. Remember the swiftness? A lot of terrible 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.760 So so why y'all y'all think so? 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:11.080 So? 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:12.000 You remember nothing. 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.200 Why do you think the Firm was wasn't bigger? Like 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.159 that was the first time East Coast Like this was 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:22.960 two monuments. 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.680 First time first music Doctor Dre made after he left 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.840 out the bro was NASA's coming on NASA's album and 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:35.040 the first project on Aftermath was the Firm. It was 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:35.840 brand new ship. 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:39.800 Niggas had to toning Pope was big and they're all right, 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.080 and they you know, they weren't like you know, they 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:48.240 were splitting the album and you know, Fox he was loose, Cannon, 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:52.000 what's his thing? 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:57.000 Cormega was in out. We could go that he was 0:22:57.040 --> 0:23:00.399 in and out the Firm. He was getting very you know, 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.760 he was belligerent based off of his status. This kid 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:06.359 nature which is beligitamate me. 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.720 I'm sorry that was the big words. 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:17.360 Like he just like yeah, it was mad, angry, upset. 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.360 Because why did he exactly get kicked out of the group. 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.400 Back then, like people work through their problems. We didn't 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.320 have the internet, so most of the times people will 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.600 go behind the scenes that work out the problems. But 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:28.560 he was actually you guys have to take it a 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.000 measure to actually kick him out of the group and 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.119 replace him, even if he would have got kicked out 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:33.440 of the group. 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.920 Back then it was usually the three members move forward. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.960 But so what happened in that situation? You remember he 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:42.359 not shouted it out when he was he was in 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.480 jail on ill, he was over car Meaca. Did you 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:46.919 see him together when he. 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:51.920 Got home, before he even got came back around, even 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:53.960 fucked with nas or funk with us what he was doing. 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:58.800 He signed them, Chris, we skipped him off. 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.440 Okay, hold on, stop going too fast? 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.520 I like, so, what wasn't even that fast? You said? Lunch? 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.920 You saying, nah, shouted him out? The bus started from 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.680 that that shout out. He comes home and he goes 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:13.360 sign somewhere else. But was there a conversation, not even 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:14.800 a conversation get out of here? 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:15.000 No? 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:20.720 Wow, No, I never knew that, I thought because it 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.840 looked like our okay you and for dudes that don't 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.920 know Chris lighty god bleed us. The debt was my 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.280 manager and was it was like you was either with 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.560 with Chris or you was with Stout at that time, 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.840 y'all was the two by or Mark Pitts was out 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:36.840 there as well, like as far as management. 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.920 Go at that time, and Flavor Unit to keep a 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:39.440 flavor unit. 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.280 Was kind of like just flavor unit like they want. 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.560 It was it was he You're right, it was it 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.880 was if you wasn't he was with me and Chris. 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:49.680 It was either you were me, you were Chris. It 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.840 wasn't even management. It was more than just management. 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:52.520 It was just like. 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.320 We control the market, right, and it was like bad boy. 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:02.439 Then you had violator what they were doing, and then 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.560 you had a sense of what we were doing. And 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.159 if you weren't with that, we controlled the market in 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:09.919 New York. We did. That's right. Talk that shit now, 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.879 well that's the truth. Talk that ship. You can verify it. 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.000 You can verify you got the computer. You got computer guy. 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:20.280 There was nowhere to go right now. Twenty years later, 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.480 you think Nas would be his businessman that Nas turned 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:26.280 out to be. He asked you that question the other day. 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:27.439 I'm proud of him, bro, Like. 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:32.280 I'm seriously, he's out there looking good with Nicki Minaj, 0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:33.200 out there looking good. 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:37.800 Game boy. Yeah, he's special. He's a special duty. But 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.399 he got in on lift, he got it on everything. 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:44.119 He's first of all, his manager, Anthony Salad is like, 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.280 you know special, he's talented. 0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:49.919 I mean these guys are all cut from the same cloth, 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:53.240 like very resourceful, trying to figure it out. And Nas 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:56.000 is one of the most trustworthy people he would ever meet. 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:58.600 He could read you and if he he fucks with 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.199 you and he trusts you. I never had a management 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:06.800 contract with Nuts never. I never, ever, ever, ever had 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.600 to even think about getting paid from him. 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.399 I'd be I'd have four hundred thousand dollars in cash 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.399 and he wouldn't even know or Karen like, he's not 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.520 like that. He doesn't move or for money, but he 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.640 likes nice things or whatever, but money don't move him. 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.399 So it was never about if he trusts me, he 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.119 funcsured you. That's what it is. 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:31.520 So Anthony, you know, just kept moving it forward and 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:36.040 got him involved in technology. I introduced Nas to this's 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.920 guy Ben Horowitz, who's the you know, leading venture capitalist 0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.679 who happens to love rhymes, and him and Nas hooked up. 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.879 I put him together and then, like Anthony. 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.800 Outside of that relationship started creating other relationships in Silicon 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:50.679 Valley and Na shows. 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:56.320 Up now shows up on time. What made you fall 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.640 back on management? Like like that was a lot of money, 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.600 like just in that business, correct, am I saying that 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:04.000 crazy motherfuckers like you. 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:15.280 I think I went from managing artists and I wanted 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.359 to manage companies. It was just like I still feel 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:23.320 like I'm managing, just managing corporations rather than managing individual artists. 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.879 But I love artists, and I love special artists, the 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.240 guys that are really talented that that what they do 0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.440 can't be replicated, and I have a lot of deep 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:36.080 respect for it. 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.240 And my job as a businessman is to make sure 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.560 that people leave them the funk alone so they could 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.960 just c they to do and create, and leave them 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.359 alone and give them the money and the resources and 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:47.840 the environment to be great. 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:48.760 Right. 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:53.000 Yeah, Now, who was the easiest artist to ever produce 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:53.240 for it? 0:27:58.640 --> 0:27:58.960 Actually? 0:27:59.000 --> 0:27:59.959 You were, You were pretty good. 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.479 Yes, we walked in the studio, I said, I got 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.320 the track, you said, everybody get out the room. 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:10.359 I play right up, and you went to work. But 0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:12.840 it's between. 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.160 Jay and Knuts, both very easy to work, easy. 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:24.600 To work, that's very politically correct, correct. 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:36.040 Lying dreams right, No longer. 0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:38.600 He's the easiest artist. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.240 He's the easiest artist. He always has his ship prepared. 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.640 Now let me give you another one. What what was 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.920 an artist that you you was disappointed in like, you 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.520 went to work with them and they work ethic wasn't 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:50.080 there at all. 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:55.200 They fell asleep, the truth asleep. Don't say nature, don't 0:28:55.240 --> 0:29:03.080 say nature. Don't show up, just dream man. You'll put 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:04.080 some shots. Good. 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.320 You gotta come on, Honestly, I don't know. I'm not 0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:08.520 disappointed at anybody. 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:10.880 You made the pre said Whitney Houston disappointed him. God, 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:11.160 damn it. 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:11.400 Come on. 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.760 You gotta give her something, he said. Whitney Houston could 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.120 not hit the notes that he wrote for. He said 0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.720 she was racking the studio. He said that right. He 0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.480 said that right. You'll see you sitting that right now. 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.800 He said that, we're just keeping it real rail. Yeah. 0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.480 Fox was tough to work with now now yeah, yeah, 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:31.640 like whoy yeah, Like. 0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:33.720 She was just young at the time. 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.480 Besides y'all as well, that's all. That's another good story. 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:39.960 That was depth story. 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.440 She was young, Okay, So I think the start I'm 0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.080 coming at her really fast. Was hard to get her 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.520 in the studio and really and really work. But when 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.680 she arrived at the studio, she got busy. He was 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:52.880 just getting it there on time. 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.080 And seventeen. She used to come with a book back 0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:03.760 cow found facing man, what don't discover? First? Describe what 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:06.360 these hold on? 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.080 We just grew up honesty at Washington, Washington, grow up 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:13.840 from Brooklyn, from Brooklyn. 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:15.600 Oh yeah, I got you from Brooklyn. 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.320 We like a queen's nigga, like so I always just 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.080 claimed you in my mind, like using from queens, like 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.400 you know what in my mind? 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.440 Drinking that is that what it like? 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:31.760 It's a tradition. Okay, it's a tradition. 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.880 Okay. Now, I don't know if y'all know about drink chants, 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:36.920 but drink champs is I've seen. 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.320 There was not a platform that when people get ten 0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.520 years or people get twenty years or fifteen years in 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.720 this game, people want to write them off. People want 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.880 to say that these guys ain't doing it no more. 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.400 Because whatever he had drink chants. We'd like to salute 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.760 our people, like to give them their flowers while they 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.719 could smell them, give them their thoughts while they can 0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.440 tell them they drink so they can drink them, and 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:55.800 they thoughts when. 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:56.280 They can think them. 0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.400 You understand I'm saying, So he had drink chants, we 0:30:58.440 --> 0:30:59.040 are saluting you. 0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.560 Steve stops everything you did in this business. Everything you 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.720 did this business and we know y'all don't expect y'all. 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:13.080 Not about Big. 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:20.520 It's terrible. What's it's actually horrible? 0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:23.160 Now you worked a big before? 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:25.520 What joint you work with Big? 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.719 Let's see, there's a discrepancy, by the way. 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.160 We're gonna get to that in a second. Let's discrepancy. 0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:38.800 We did a juicy Juicy, the original Juicy, Yes, but no, 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:42.160 there's no. 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.240 Um that was talking about talking don't worry about me, 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:49.640 he juicy. We did the One More Chance. Now y'all 0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.560 had a discrepancy seeing that my good friend of our 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.960 visa produced with No Weed. 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.120 Say that there was a conversation. 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:02.520 There was a conversation because I would assume that's the 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.040 only time we would have talked about Juicy. 0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:05.560 No, he said one more Chance. 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.400 No, I know what discrepancy he's talking about. You were 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:10.000 talking about with. 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.160 Little Seeds was on here and late Little Seed says, 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.160 nis was supposed to be on Bigg's album. 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:14.959 Is that it right? 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.480 And uh, we said that now it's supposed to be 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.640 on One More Chance, But he wasn't. 0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:21.840 He was supposed to be gonna give me the loop. 0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.680 I don't know which record he was going on okay, 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.880 but when y'all started talking about One More Chance being 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.440 one of the greatest records in hip hop, he didn't 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:30.400 give track masses. 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.480 We gotta put correct respect. 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.240 I'm gonna tell y'all something. I'm gonna tell yall something. 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.400 I was so honest to work with y'all, like because 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.600 it was y'all and Clark can't. I gotta give Clark can't. 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.960 Like I just used to write rhymes. I wouldn't. I 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:55.840 didn't know how to count bars. I didn't know how 0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.520 I would write rhymes, just write hook separate. I wouldn't 0:32:58.560 --> 0:32:59.800 know how to put them ships together. 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.480 And I remember going to Bisville and I remember you, 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.720 just you and Polk and just pulling me. 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:06.720 To the side and being like you got the talent. 0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:11.440 It's just fucking everywhere and you and I just appreciate that. 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.040 I appreciate you know the uncle Land I gotta say, 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:16.520 like I felt like an uncle. Like when I was 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.960 at Bes, like you you knew this is what it was. 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.520 We was finishing an an R E album. I was 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.080 all over the place. I rented Miami and went and 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:25.760 it was your idea. He was like, Yo, Nor, I 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.680 can't get you to focus in New York. You're gonna 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.120 come to Beersville. They lied to me. 0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:30.800 They definitely didn't tell me what Beersville. 0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.720 Once, it's like, yeah, you want to go up there, motherfucker. 0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.760 Everything closed at five o'clock. If you don't got your phillies, 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.080 you fucked up. You don't got your cigarettes, you don't 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:39.280 got no. 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.760 List that you fucked up. You remember Philly being up there? Yes? 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:42.040 I was. 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.040 Did I remember I did two records for fifty? 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.800 That was RB. You don't remember that was RB. 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.240 Yes, because I did the two records for fifty, and 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:50.840 I asked you. 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:55.280 I felt like I be and you always about the firm. 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.040 You feel like I didn't give you time about you. 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.440 He got casted a rest, then he got carried away, 0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:03.440 you know. 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:10.600 And I'm sitting there going like I'm putting everybody on. 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.040 I'm sitting at the I'm taking the responsibility and I'm 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.719 putting everything on. I got fifty out of his contract. 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.320 He's with jam message. I got him out the contract, 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.239 got him in, took shot money from the hood, brought 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:23.920 shot money. 0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.800 In to him. The Bibel didn't go Snory Norid was 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.400 in between. This ship wasn't right. This ship wasn't right, nigga, 0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.000 he talented. Your ship ain't right. Come up to Bearsville 0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:38.120 and these and these zis was up here. It was 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.480 showing him pop and it was the producers under up 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.040 and they were orchestrated. We had three rooms going to 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.560 fatile fatales. That's right. 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.920 And we was up there and we were getting busy 0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.919 making That's what the power of the dollar was made. 0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:54.160 Yes, yes, that's. 0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:57.719 So. 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.520 And I just so I want to records on that. 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.879 I'm on. I'm gonna. I forget the name of them ships. 0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.320 But yeah, man, I came around, I felt the energy, 0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.600 and that's where it was where our little problem has 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.359 started was because I think I called him. I said 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.279 Fifty's album. I was wanting to get paid or something. 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.200 He was like, I ain't paying you for no fifty record. 0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:17.879 I said, a god, I think y'all. I was saying 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.239 beef with fifty at this time. And then it just 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:21.080 all trickled down. 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:21.920 But it's all up. 0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:23.640 We are here to date and we are having fun 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:25.560 and we're gonna drink some of your special white wine. 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:26.719 God damn, we don't got a call open. 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.080 That's what I was like, you got a specific chankey jacket. 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:35.840 I'll cut a jacket at that style that many jacket 0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:36.319 on too. 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.879 And he came and crush all my jackets. I'm here. 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.000 This is all his cases are. 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:41.440 Yo. 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.759 Man, let me tell you something, Stout. You gotta teach 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.359 a class or rap class. We're gonna call it rap 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.560 class where you sit down and you teach niggas. Niggas 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.480 don't know code, but they don't know what's the difference 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.839 between Did he just say a fifty five miller? He said, 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:56.719 what did he saying? He said, this is a fifty five. 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.440 Nobody don't know that you got a fifty fifty. 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:02.959 This is what I'm trying to say you should. 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.800 It's to be mad funny. He got me jadakiss and 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.200 like a Jim Jones. And you're sitting us down and 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:09.840 you're teaching us to wrap class. 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.600 It's called rap class. And you said, this is how 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.680 you drink a maryllow. Most people don't know you drink 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:15.879 a red wine with a steak. 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.040 People don't know that. They just drink with the drink 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:25.840 and drink whatever those a This goes right with a blood? 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.200 Can you open it up on the staffs. I want 0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:34.400 you to do that. So okay, Now, why isn't a Z. 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.960 Why didn't a Z like be just to sig ship y'all. 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.920 I just had this conversation with son about a Z 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:44.440 easy honestly. 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:46.200 Oh. 0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.279 First of all, if he was an actor, he'd be 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.520 a fucking suit star because you even watch him in 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.200 the in the in the interlude him, no, no, no, no, no, 0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:00.480 you ever watch him in the interlude when the Biggie 0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.239 video in the beginning with me they rolling, they're playing for. 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.080 Money and ship, they're playing with monopoly money. You know, 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.040 look at a Z and that that he's he's fucking 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.800 and it worked really hard, and he was all about 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:13.720 the business. 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:16.440 People forget. 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:21.520 Even after the rhyme on Life's a Bitch, he delivered 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.719 the rhyme again though on more money, more murder. 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.000 People thought his penses fall off after that more money, 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:35.239 more murder. His rhymes is also hot. He wanted to 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.320 always make sugar hell. He just wanted to. 0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.840 He wanted to make commercial, commercial records. He wanted to 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.160 make that type of ship. And I think he had 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.040 he didn't have a great management around him, and. 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:54.440 He just wasn't He didn't have enough talent for the 0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.680 for what was coming out at that time. It was 0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.799 it was vicious, the amount of rappers that was. I think, 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:01.399 what do you want? He didn't. 0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.239 No, he had to work ethic and he had to 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.640 he he was a polished person, show up, deliver, He 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.440 could act, He'll play it all out. 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:12.600 He was that type of guy. 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.680 But if when you had to write the rhymes and 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.719 do it over and over, he didn't give a shit 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:18.640 about that. He showed up with NASA's on the record, 0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:20.759 but outside of that, he wouldn't write, He wouldn't do it. 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:26.120 Listen to his music. I never felt like, no, that's 0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.440 your memory. Even you know, certain things. 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.759 Age back like you listen to it, you think it's 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:32.360 joking and you go back, you listen to it like, 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:37.719 I can't believe I like this ship. Damn you ever 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.719 did it? Like you fall in love and some like 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.560 even if you go look at Star Wars right now, 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.600 you see the streams like, there's certain things just don't 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.920 age well. And you just got to be honest about that. 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:51.000 Ass rhymes in age well outside of more money and 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.520 life's a bitch, that's all. And so you never managed him? 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.160 Why was that? Why didn't you? 0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:56.400 Like? 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.239 He just said it. Why didn't I manage it? 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.439 I because managing artists and all that ship wasn't really 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:03.160 what I wanted to do. 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.120 Wife, I didn't really want to do. 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.080 That wasn't the career I wanted to build myself on 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.600 being a manager of artists. I just felt I just 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.520 wanted to keep doing more ship, more ship, and trying ship. 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.960 And my first big break came the first producer I managed. 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.240 This kid he was he was a Jehovah witness. 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:29.200 This is really funny. Listen to this excuse us Jehovah witness. 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:35.560 And back then getting equipment was so hard to get 0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:40.080 as a producer. If you had equipment, you could basically 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.120 ring your equipment out for credit. You can basically say 0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:44.920 I produced half the record if I just if you 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:45.760 use my equipment. 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:51.600 That's how scarce equipment was. And Herbie Lovebug was jerking 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:52.279 everybody up. 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.680 He was a thief, thief. 0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.680 This kid, this kid, I don't beat this kid that 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.759 where has introduced me to And the guy his name 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:11.440 is Steve Kinton. You'll never hear his name again, probably, 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.120 but Steve kit he's a Jehovah witness. He's producing records 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.440 for Salt and Pepper and he's not taking credit, but. 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.040 He's getting fined magic every guy, these guys on lot. 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.680 So anyhow, the kid does all this shit. So I 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.520 meet him, I'm like, and it's similar the same shit 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.279 I met you to him. I meet the kid and 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.160 I'm like, yo, man, you don't have to even fuck 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:30.800 with these guys. 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.359 I'll buy you the equipment. I was doing real estate 0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.759 at the time I bought the kid. I went to 0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:39.319 sam Ash bought the you know all the rolling ship 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:40.920 and it was like a Christmas list. He gave me 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.120 the shit he really wanted. He made up extra shit. 0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.400 I bought it for him and we started producing. And 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.040 the first thing we did was the theme song for 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:53.239 the Martin Lawn show, The Friend That Martin. We took 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:57.239 that from the deaf comedy jams Us Kicking Pree the 0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.120 Martin launch the theme song I Do Martin Martin to 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:00.919 sleep morning. 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.000 When I was ros right, yeah, when I was the roadie, 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.360 Morton Lawrence was the opening eye get the fun. I 0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.160 knew Martin Lawrence like the guy that was just like 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:14.000 the like he was just the regular dude, Like we 0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.359 were right there. And when he blew up and got 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.480 a show, and he's like stop. He helped me out. 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.239 I said, I can make the theme music for you. 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.839 I got the kid Steve to do it. He made 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:25.480 that and he got the publishing off for that. He's 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.880 still eating and he's a full Jehovah witness. I have 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:33.480 not heard from him, but back then he was afraid did. 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.400 Jehovah Witness thing. I'm not gonna bring that in because 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.640 he was afraid to take credit for music because it 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.920 was against his religion. 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.239 Okay, now, earlier, you just said you described the video 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.120 with the Jay I think that was the jay Z video. 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.200 We said it was a jay Z video with Big 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:54.840 and now what's that the beginning of Nas and the whole. 0:41:56.239 --> 0:42:00.840 Dispute because of that because they were saying that it 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:02.680 was dead President's I believe, yeah, it wasn't that. 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:08.400 Now the rumor is that it was Jay wanted Nas 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:09.359 to come to the video. 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.080 I don't know Jay and Nas knew each other before 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:17.239 I knew either of them, So I don't know what 0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.960 the beginning of that beef was, but it was definitely 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.000 just in New York City. 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.360 It was just like who's the best rapper? You know? 0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:31.440 And like that's the beginning of that beef us. I mean, 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.680 I guess it was just normal young anyway. You gotta 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.680 remember that niggas are twenty five years old? Is it 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:38.640 twenty five years old? 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:42.600 With millions of dollars and really millions of dollars and 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.000 really twenty five years old? 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:49.120 Correct? And like so that's the perfect concoction for stupid shit, 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.919 a lot of money and young. It's mancho shit. 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.320 Yeah, so the macho ship led to a bunch of 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.080 dumb ship which led to a bunch of beefs. 0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:00.120 But it wasn't any None of it was really real. 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.920 Except those guys have the greatest respect for one another, 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:05.240 I mean the greatest. 0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:07.960 That's one of the things that did age well, like 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:09.840 you just said you just mentioned earlier, like a lot 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:10.879 of things don't age well. 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:12.440 That's something. 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.960 For a perfectly like I look at that big but 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.040 back then, let's just subscribe back then, like back then, 0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:24.120 Takeover comes Out? 0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.200 Are you worried you're a guy who's been in career. 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.040 Both of you guys have been in no career at 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:31.240 least since his second album. 0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.680 I need to tell them keep it real. Takeover comes Out. 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.000 You got to put yourself right in this specific situation. 0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.839 Where were you or now is the time? At the time, 0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:41.880 the whole thing and. 0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:44.480 To coad sign the story. 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.279 There's a different Ether out there, like before Ether became Ether, 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:49.960 there was another another record. 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.000 Ye, another version, there was another version. I have heard 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:54.640 about this. I heard it. I was I was in 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:56.960 student one day. I was like, Holy it was a 0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.800 little worse. No it wasn't. I don't different record. I 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.160 remember the whole but go ahead. 0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.719 I was worried after Nights was dumb Rich. 0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:13.960 Tell me when we're not clean, bro, we got you. Okay, 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.239 you thought Nins was done from Takeover? Did really? 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.839 It was only one shot at NINS if you think 0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:21.200 about it. 0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:24.480 He just said, tell Nis, you know I've seen him 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.759 performing that. That's no. That was no, no, no, no. 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.720 He put the third verse on that thing on takeover 0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:36.319 or you think it's super ugly. No, okay. He first 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.840 said the first thing where he said he did that 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:44.160 summer didn't want to hold right, and then he did 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:47.400 the freestyle he said he went through bees first left freestyle. 0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:51.160 You would douce that freestyle too, right, I think that 0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.520 was I think so, I don't remember. 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.439 Did not then Jay does takeover? I think status wanted 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:00.000 to be say correct. 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:04.360 So you said I was wearing he was wearing Yeah, definitely. 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.160 I seen him before the record and he gets to 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:13.600 the part of where he goes, who's the best some 0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.799 see Biggie jay Z and then he goes nah nah 0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.959 and then Takeover comes in and I watched the crowd. 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:21.360 I was like, this ship is a problem. 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.120 Wow. So yeah, I was nervous for NAS. 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:25.440 I was nervous for NAS. 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:29.279 And how about you, Stole? Was you nervous? Nervous is 0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:40.040 an understanding? J J and I became friends. We became 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:45.239 really friendly, uh around that time before that, and. 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.160 Jay's a very secretive dude, and he had never told 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:50.680 me that he was doing that or any of that 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:51.239 kind of ship. 0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:53.680 So I kind of felt betrayed. I, Alice, felt like 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:55.719 it was all ployed. 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.920 Just to like there wasn't really a friendship. Actually that's 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.480 what I felt like. You did like you and I 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:02.879 thought I was a friendship them. I'm like, this ain't 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:04.480 no real friendship and you're gonna just shop on this guy. 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:06.600 You're not gonna tell me. And I got the Hammerstein 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:08.760 Ballroom and he performed it and I'm in the raptors. 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.560 The Hamisteen Ballroom is like a fitter and ship and 0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:17.160 it has like those like opera fucking balconies. And I 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:19.600 thought the ship was going to snap and break. That's 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:20.600 how crazy it was. 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.359 Yeah. And that was young Kanye West on the beat, right, 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:30.839 And I totally forgot Kanye Kanye produced to take over. Yeah, 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.960 he forgot that. Yeah, So that was young Kanye on 0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:35.440 the beat. And I was nervous. 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:38.920 I thought NAS's career was over and and and Nas 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.000 was really in no position to the way he was 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:43.360 carrying himself the way he was. 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.759 He wasn't taking it as seriously he was. He was 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:47.319 a lot of shit. 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.120 He was dealing with man, his baby mom ship, just 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:52.799 a lot of ship man. You know, Naas takes care 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:53.600 of a lot of people. 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:55.400 And then he didn't. 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:59.560 And actually back then, because it wasn't people thought it 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.319 was over. It was that his response was kind of slow, right, I. 0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:06.840 Think it was like three months Kay's Steve style. Okay, okay, 0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:10.120 So what happened was this, I'm gonna take some of 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:14.960 else to rison. We made the he's rigging that coach. 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.080 So what happened was taking time with that. Okay, stop 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.600 shot me whole one stop, let me know if I got. 0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:24.960 Let me know if I got a little bit like that, 0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.319 you know what I'm saying. Perfect, And then. 0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:32.879 And then the old did too much. That's like one 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:37.960 he supposed to be like grand class. You go more 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:39.920 into shows right now? Ahead? 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.200 Yeah, so all right, the takeover is out. 0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:48.680 Now you to this story. Yeah, everybody said, please, I 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.120 just want to make sure everybody's into it. Everybody's into it. 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:53.040 And they told used to have a light crowd, usually 0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:53.560 have more people. 0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:55.080 We told them to lack of crowd because you said 0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.680 you have something important to say when we're gonna about 0:47:57.960 --> 0:47:58.279 what else? 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:03.000 But we keep so anyhow, okay, So so the whole 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:08.200 ship's like a fucking mess. And I don't know that 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:08.719 part of it. 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.239 But I had that beat. That was the first beat 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:17.080 that I had that I gave Nous the beef of Ether. 0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.480 I took the beat. I gave it to Nows on 0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:23.760 the album first, not for eth, just to make a record. 0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.120 I forgot what this ship reminded me of. It reminded 0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.480 me of something, and I'm like, yo, this ship right 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:35.480 here and nas he didn't like the ship, so him 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:40.440 and I we went We went through a really tough time. 0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:42.600 That was a really that was the lowest point of 0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.880 our relationship during that period of time. 0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.000 Beating nows and I we we we weren't speaking. I 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:49.560 was executive producing that album. 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.080 And you're saying in between after takeover, takeover happens, take 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:53.520 over to. 0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.719 Eth I'm not speaking. Yeah, I'm not speaking to us. 0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:00.200 We're not we're working together. But like you know, like 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.440 a bad man very distance, you come, we come home. 0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.600 And when you say the first bing you gave him 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.080 literally like you that you say, I think this when 0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.440 I when I when I when I make. 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.680 Music, when I work with artists, I get involved in 0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:19.840 every aspect of how you injured versus how to fucking chorus, 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:21.400 ship the beats, the whole program. 0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:23.480 So you're like, damn near production. 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:29.040 I just never took hit a producers, mad. I get 0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:29.759 what I do. 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.320 He gets credit for what he does. You know, I 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:36.279 just have a point of view, right, So, and I 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:38.520 gave it to him, and he he didn't funk with it. 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.920 Ninety sweat to him for months and he worked on 0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:41.400 the album. 0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.080 He made that album. I forgot the name of the 0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:46.040 album God's Son, though, No, I think that's that's not 0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:49.680 hip hop it still matter still. I was just saying 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:55.720 the woman with the bird the peon still still believe. 0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:57.680 So we're not working on this ship together. 0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:01.719 And like he calls me and the album is about 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.560 to go to mastering, and I go to the studio 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.200 and he plays me ether it's like two in the 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:09.640 morning and he uses that beat. 0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:13.800 Now we weren't even speaking. 0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.480 So the fact that he even called me to the 0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:19.520 studio the night before mastering was because he wanted me 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.680 to hear, like, did I go too far? As this 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:26.480 fucked up? And I get there two in the morning 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.399 and Jungle is on some foxed out you know, fuck 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:34.280 that yo stop, fuck yo, no no, and I'm listening 0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.040 to this ship and I'm like, I take off, Michael, 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:38.200 We're staying here all night. 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:40.920 We got to fix this. This is a mess. This 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:41.680 is a mess. 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.719 If this ship comes out, your career is over. And 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:49.759 he made the record, but there was a version. There 0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:51.640 was a different version of it with the same beat 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:52.720 that was terrible. 0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.719 Thank you for hitting the AC but then it was 0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:58.160 a beat. It was terrible. It was horrible and like 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:02.480 and like and you know it was it was the 0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:05.399 proper response for what he was in I mean, that's 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:06.160 a heavyweight man. 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.000 By the way, when you see Nas and Jay together, 0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:14.279 it's like looking at Ali and Fraser. It's like two 0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:17.720 guys like we were coaching each other in together fucking 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:23.040 face because hard as we can, and we were respecting how. 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:26.239 Much we could take the punches to the face. That's 0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.360 what they did. You never seen no ship like that. 0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:33.080 This wasn't no l O CUJ battling Kumo D after 0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.200 the Kumo D was already on the way out and 0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.920 this this is this is happening. This is happening at 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.200 the right time, and. 0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:46.279 Like and somebody's gonna lose and somebody's gonna win, and 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:50.319 that's what's gonna happen. And the fact that they did 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:54.000 that and nobody got shot and nobody got stabbed, that's 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.080 what we should be fucking bigg en up right now. 0:51:56.280 --> 0:52:05.279 Because what it wants to I think both of them, 0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.000 I think that was both of their best time of 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:11.080 leadership because they were actually saying that to their cruise 0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:13.720 like yo, this is like this is on the record, 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:15.960 like they were actually saying that, Like you know, I 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:19.880 remember Jay had to their freestyle on with the everybody 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:22.480 on Hot ninety seven. And he went up there and 0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:26.239 me rhymes with I think that's when he first got 0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:28.279 his Phillies boys and Nina's. 0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:29.520 Had called me and was like, Yo, we're gonna do 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.120 the same thing. We're gonna go off there and do it. 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.000 And from the beginning, when Nas called me, I said, 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:36.960 do we need bail money? He said, hold up, y'all, 0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:40.880 it's not that type of party. We just gonna go 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:41.759 on rhyme against them. 0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:43.520 And I knew that, and that was that was a 0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.839 boss move as a leader, was to let people know like, look, 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.919 look we're gonna dispute them and we're gonna do whatever 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:50.360 we gotta do. 0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:52.680 But this, you know, we're gonna keep it, keep it 0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:53.120 hip hop. 0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:55.719 And I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that part of hip hop. 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:56.440 I still enjoyed it. 0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.760 So now in between that part, you guys are worried. 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:02.880 Now Ether finally is put together the way you want it, 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:04.080 it drops. 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.400 How proud are you of that moment that when the. 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.759 Whole world started doubting them, he dropped that one and 0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:14.440 Ether was strong enough that even when Hove responded, he 0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:17.960 didn't have to respond. That's how strong that one record was. 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:19.880 See a lot of people don't know, don't say that, 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.200 like hole, it's two to one. So when you compare 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:25.480 a Hope and Na's battle, it's like Hope actually has 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:27.439 two records. 0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:32.359 Too, you know the freestyle, but that was like that's 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.120 that that was how super Ugly came. 0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:35.839 Off super Ugly. 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.640 The reason why I think super Ugly isn't a classic 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.680 is because you actually got a person that you've never 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.920 seen emotional be a little emotional. That's why I think 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:46.560 people didn't receive that. 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:48.879 Reason was one of those records, man. 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:49.480 You know what I'm saying. 0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:52.160 You know what I'm saying. When it was one of 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.480 those records with like that starts to happen and get 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:58.280 you off your things, That's that's when you watching nigga 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.960 hit you in the face and throws you off your 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:05.399 start changing. 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.080 You just started doing strategy. 0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:11.400 But the most important part of what this is about 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.240 in this topic, we can go inside of the knives 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.239 ether Jay, this, that and the third the fact that 0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.480 those guys it wasn't they put their money on the line. 0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.520 You see back then, if you get when you lost, 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:25.400 what you really was betting was your career. 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:30.319 You weren't betting a million dollars. You were betting your 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:35.400 entire earning potential. Like with l al Bad cannabis, Cannabis 0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:40.680 was gone, Yeah, it was gone. Yeah, guys, the loser 0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:42.880 is done. This is scary. 0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:45.880 The loser is done. And so when they did that, 0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.120 that's what they were playing for. And the fact that 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.319 they never turned it into anything else, and. 0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.799 They both came out smelling like roses instead of ship 0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:54.720 better better people. 0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:57.720 And that's and and he grew after that together. 0:54:57.840 --> 0:54:59.239 They actually you got to say, by. 0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:01.680 The way, when you anytime I'm around both of them together, 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.480 it's like I don't even listen to anything. 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.520 All I do is shut the fuck up and let 0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.040 them niggas talk and and and and and. 0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:15.240 Feel so fortunate that I'm around two of the greatest 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:17.640 writers that ever walked the face of this earth. 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.279 That's how I feel. Now, how intricate was you? 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.160 And like the squashing of that, like now you got 0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:25.719 business with both they both just went out of. 0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:30.359 Each other horribly, and then they both grown men. 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.800 You know what, I wasn't involved, get the you know, 0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:38.839 I wasn't squashed. I was involved, because I don't mean 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:41.160 I was squashed, but but not that one because I 0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:43.279 felt like old was always shotting you out to like 0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:45.320 kind of like like like elbow. 0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.080 Now it's a little bit like stop all at me, man, 0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:50.759 like I'm fucking with your your your boss, like I'm 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:51.160 fucking with. 0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:51.919 Your top guy. 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:52.880 Like you know what I'm saying, Like. 0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:55.560 I's talking about being Damien never got along. We're gonna 0:55:55.600 --> 0:56:01.400 get into that too. I don't know a guy like 0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:02.200 I got good. 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:03.480 I got so good. I didn't know where to go 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.239 with that't know where you wanted to go with that. 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:09.640 I think why you and Dave never got But I 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:12.520 just said that's what I thought because Jay was hying 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:12.879 you out. 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:16.279 I think because of that, I think that you know, 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:19.879 he was the smart guy. He was the smart guy 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:20.720 at that time. 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.439 In my opinion. And this is I can't speak for Dame, 0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.839 but I think that's I think we had him on drink. 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:27.719 Of course we had. 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.320 I don't know we had him on drink chance, But 0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:33.440 I think he always says that like it was le 0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.279 or and I believe it's your name came up. 0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:40.840 I don't think he did. Okay, he wouldn't see me. Okay, 0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:45.960 maybe he said that to me. He was a smart 0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:47.000 guy at the time in Damon. 0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:49.839 I spoke to Demon three weeks ago and I told him, 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.440 I said, Damon, I finally now understood. 0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:55.480 Wait wait, you spoke to him three weeks ago. Recently, 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.799 you said, three weeks ago from what today? Yeah? 0:56:58.440 --> 0:56:59.680 And I call him and tell him, Man, I got 0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:02.800 to tell you that I really do understand everything you 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.080 stood for and everything you fought for. 0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:11.320 Like and if you look at it again, young and money, 0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.000 bad concoction. Right. 0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:20.200 Damon knew artist should be independent. Damon knew artists should 0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:23.200 own their rights. Damon knew he was fighting for all 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:26.560 of that stuff. Damon actually knew how international. 0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.520 The art, the art of it was. 0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.480 He knew everything. He knew everything, and he knew who 0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:34.520 to fight for it. The problem was he knew it, 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:38.760 but the way he handled it. He could articulated, but 0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:41.440 the way he handled it to make it a business 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:47.600 was just disgusting, right, But he wasn't. He his theory 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.479 was correct, the way he handled it was wrong. 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.600 And I told him that, and he's like, it. 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.600 Took you long enough, And I'm like, you fucking can't 0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:00.360 even just say thanks, But you know, I mean, that's 0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:02.320 naming and that's cool, and I respect. 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:04.080 And I respect wait, wait, wait talking about he said, 0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:04.919 that's what he said? 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:14.760 Oh man, I was you know, for me, I was 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:18.720 just like the one thing I've always pride myself on. 0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.760 There's a lot of things I am. I'm fucking smart. 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.600 I knew the ship. I know the ship called, I 0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:29.600 know the business call, I know the artists, the music this. 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.840 I could see the ship before it happens, and like 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:36.280 I knew what he was trying to do and where 0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:37.960 me and Jay became friends. 0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:42.040 It was almost like what I would say to him 0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:45.600 or the way I would package the information. It felt 0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:46.720 like we were going forward. 0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:50.080 It didn't feel like all these niggas, these niggas, It 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:54.840 didn't feel belligerate. We were actually coming up with ideas 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.320 and thoughts that was gonna move forward. 0:58:57.120 --> 0:59:00.960 Not just ship on people to get there. Right, there's 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.360 a way to move forward. You can shoot on people 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.240 to move forward, or you could do it in a 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:07.480 charismatic way. And I felt like the way I was 0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:08.680 doing it, or maybe the way I. 0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:13.600 Was doing it was more charismatic, much more advanced as 0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:14.600 far as moving forward. 0:59:15.040 --> 0:59:17.560 Now, have you ever produced a record for an artist 0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:21.200 where artist just another artist and you had to feel 0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:22.360 awkward about that. 0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:27.640 Yeah, let's talk about it. 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:32.480 So, I mean LL and Cannabis was really it was wait, 0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:34.760 wait you produce that L record? Yeah, I mean we 0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:38.760 got back LL. Cannabis had yo, I need some fun 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:40.040 in water water. 0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:43.000 N Yeah, yeah, give business water we got, We got 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:43.720 waters all over. 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:47.080 To the studio. Cannabis has has diverse. It was a 0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:50.200 dope verse. But you would douce cannabis shit too. Yeah, 0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:52.840 you wait, you produce both. It's like Sam. 0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:57.160 Ship right there. 0:59:57.240 --> 1:00:00.880 That's like you you wore both. Fight is out to 1:00:01.000 --> 1:00:02.520 the wing and you said, I'm leaving with the winner. 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:06.000 It was just on came the fourth three to one 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.040 joint when Cannabis said the crime wow, and then l 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:12.560 A went into to spit after he heard Cannabis and 1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:14.680 he chased and he chased his run. 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:18.080 I felt a little weird about that wow, because L 1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:20.800 wanted to think, because like, you're. 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:24.000 Going at a guy who's not even here. The records 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:29.560 fearness we had L on hand El said he thought 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:31.880 Cannabis Philly went at him on that record. 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:35.000 Yeah, he said, yeah, listen, just looking for me for that. 1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:37.160 By the way, you know what I looked at the 1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:40.400 L interview. I think that guy, and I love that guy. 1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:44.240 That guy is my favorite rap of all time. When 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:48.080 I grew up go for it. Yes, I'd seen that. 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:51.600 Guy at block parties. I seen love battle guys and balls. 1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:54.600 I love grew up as a battle rocker up. And 1:00:57.040 --> 1:01:01.680 he's just so fucking competitive that he never he I 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:03.680 mean he had no one. I mean we we we 1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:05.640 we do the fucking record Who Shot You? And he 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.600 shipped so fox female rappers too. I don't get him 1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:22.120 on seventeen Yeah, why don't you do that? He just 1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:23.280 can't control himself. 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:30.800 I never knew that l's dope but rap all time. 1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:33.200 I love all that ship, the A to B, t C, 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:35.320 the D How was that niggas Don's walk? 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:38.800 I was into the autums, shame the A to B. 1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:40.520 You don't remember that? You remember it was like the 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:44.600 intro of one of his albums. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, 1:01:45.080 --> 1:01:47.080 I was walking with a panther. I love walking with 1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:50.360 a panther. Okay, I love all but he just be 1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:56.720 so competitive for niggas for no reason. And maybe cannabis. 1:01:57.200 --> 1:01:58.880 He could have pulled cannabis to the side. 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:04.280 He gave you some old he definitely could have. Everybody understands. 1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:16.920 That's something the artist ship though, Like as a d 1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:20.120 j R, are you competitive with other DJs when you. 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:22.560 Go of course that's the same thing. Okay, so some 1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:24.520 now described that for me as a DJ, like what 1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:25.919 DJ comes on first? 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:27.200 And then I mean it just depends. 1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:29.360 Yeah, depends on the platform if it's a club DJ, 1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:31.680 the battle DJ, whatever it is. 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:34.440 But yeah, you don't, you don't want certainly got what 1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:36.360 he went on. He played record, and then you get 1:02:36.440 --> 1:02:39.840 mad the records he played. He's your opener, and he 1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:41.800 played some records. You're like, what the fun is he doing? 1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:45.720 You can't play the hot record? And you gotta relax. 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:50.600 You gotta relya RelA. Now to him, what's the best. 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:51.520 Ever hip hop? Brother? 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:54.000 Nineties hip hop? 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:58.320 Man, you're gonna go for the whole ship shifted the 1:02:58.360 --> 1:02:58.760 whole day. 1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:00.520 I'll go from again. 1:03:01.840 --> 1:03:04.760 Because I feel like the mid early mid to like 1:03:04.920 --> 1:03:06.120 ninety seven was like. 1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:08.680 How the best decade? 1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:09.360 No? 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:11.600 No, no, no, he said, which is the best era? 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:15.560 He said, I don't think. 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:18.880 I don't think it was ever a great decade. The 1:03:18.960 --> 1:03:21.720 whole decade did ever made it? There's a reason why 1:03:21.800 --> 1:03:27.680 the decade never makes it. You want to hear it yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:31.840 as soon as it gets hot. If you listen to 1:03:32.160 --> 1:03:32.840 eighty eight is. 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:35.919 The best here for hip hop. By five is listening 1:03:35.960 --> 1:03:41.720 to every two Run d Run DMC. I forget No. 1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:43.440 That was the Run DMC album that was. 1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:48.560 That was their comeback album in eighty eight, actually republican 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:53.440 name of Easy n W An Easy the same Yeah 1:03:54.160 --> 1:03:56.400 and Karros Won eight. 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:58.960 It's eighteen albums that came out that year. That is 1:03:59.080 --> 1:04:03.080 just this EPMD launched the whole just the shit. But 1:04:03.160 --> 1:04:06.200 it feels like the late eighties set up the early night. 1:04:06.360 --> 1:04:09.840 What happened was then after that happens the way the 1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:13.520 business was at the time, like anything else. These guys 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:18.080 are all either on independent labels, co Chilling Records, Select Records, 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:20.760 It's that and the Third and Profile Records, and they 1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:21.240 blow up. 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:25.920 So what happens after that? The majors don't know who 1:04:26.000 --> 1:04:26.360 to sign. 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:29.240 They just signed a bunch of dudes who rap and 1:04:29.320 --> 1:04:32.040 give them some bullshit story. So then all of a sudden, 1:04:32.120 --> 1:04:35.920 the truth gets warded down by the bullshit. So eighty 1:04:36.080 --> 1:04:38.480 seven eighty eight, when everybody was scrambling to get on, 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:41.600 you have to be nice at shit. That shit works. 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:44.560 Irby and rock Canam eighty eight. Then all of a sudden, 1:04:44.640 --> 1:04:47.600 what happens is the money comes in and fucks it 1:04:47.720 --> 1:04:50.280 up like this bullshit like this area where you're up 1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:52.400 right now, this is dope right now, all. 1:04:52.400 --> 1:04:55.080 Artists is here. In ten years from now, five years 1:04:55.120 --> 1:04:57.560 from now, it's not gonna be like that. It's gonna 1:04:57.560 --> 1:04:59.640 be fucked out. The artist is gonna go somewhere else. 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:01.760 That's you know, this is this is like what is this? 1:05:01.920 --> 1:05:01.960 Like? 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:05.240 This is used to be the hood used to be. 1:05:06.280 --> 1:05:07.120 That's what I mean. 1:05:08.640 --> 1:05:11.840 That's what happens to get the great ship. That's a hood. 1:05:12.200 --> 1:05:14.840 Eighty eight hip hop is the hood. He's doing whatever, they're. 1:05:14.640 --> 1:05:17.640 Not even doing it for money, right Like this area 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:18.360 is a perfect example. 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:20.640 That's what all the hip hop parties were in Miami. 1:05:21.960 --> 1:05:22.600 This is what I'm saying. 1:05:22.600 --> 1:05:23.920 And then all of a sudden, the money comes in 1:05:24.320 --> 1:05:26.160 and then somebody decides to put a man or an 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:26.960 oriental next. 1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:28.960 Stop exactly right right right. Then all of a sudden, 1:05:28.960 --> 1:05:29.960 the artists have to move out. 1:05:30.360 --> 1:05:33.320 That's what happened in rap music, and every decade something 1:05:33.440 --> 1:05:35.440 happens and all of a sudden, So when it was 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:36.040 eighty eight. 1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:39.160 That happens, and you got the early nineties. That was awesome. 1:05:39.200 --> 1:05:41.680 You got Wu Tan, you got Biggie, you got Nas, 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:43.280 you got Jay and then all. 1:05:43.200 --> 1:05:44.600 Of a sudden, the money comes in and all of 1:05:44.640 --> 1:05:47.520 a sudden got I can shit on a thousand guys 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:50.080 right now that all of a sudden got record deals 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:54.160 and opportunities, not because they were talented, because they were rappers, 1:05:54.800 --> 1:05:57.560 and it sounded like this, and everybody was looking for 1:05:59.360 --> 1:06:01.400 you know what I'm saying, when you got to look 1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:03.720 at errors. So if you look at eighty seven and 1:06:03.800 --> 1:06:05.960 eighty nine, let's call out an error. You got to 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:08.160 break it down in three years. I wouldn't break it 1:06:08.200 --> 1:06:10.560 ten years. I'd make it three years because you know, 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:12.800 three years for this neighborhood to work it. And then 1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:14.919 all of a sudden, the money comes in and fucks 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:19.240 the neighborhood up. Eighty seven and eighty nine, ninety two 1:06:19.360 --> 1:06:21.560 to ninety six. 1:06:21.760 --> 1:06:26.320 Yep and go and moves in blocks like that doesn't 1:06:26.400 --> 1:06:30.520 move in ten year increments. I see that. That's all now. 1:06:30.560 --> 1:06:33.000 You was the guy that to bring rough riders the 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:36.280 ender scope. Correct, that was you single handed Lee, But 1:06:36.400 --> 1:06:37.960 you didn't have Dmax. 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:41.360 No, was that hard to do that because although Rough 1:06:41.440 --> 1:06:44.880 Riders was looked at as a great company, but X was. 1:06:45.000 --> 1:06:48.400 Like, I'm a I'm a marketing branding guy. What I 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:51.280 seen was the awe. I seen the awe. 1:06:51.880 --> 1:06:54.920 I'm like, I seen that all and they had motherfucker's 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:56.760 riding on motorcycles. 1:06:56.480 --> 1:07:01.240 Standing up there and I never see I was like, 1:07:01.760 --> 1:07:02.960 this is it. 1:07:03.680 --> 1:07:07.240 DMX is the beginning of a lot of ship so 1:07:07.440 --> 1:07:12.080 I want to and D is amazing. D we just 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:15.800 had the young Swiss, Swiss me and Swiss is site 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:20.200 like those guys are just talented as motherfucker and like 1:07:21.400 --> 1:07:25.800 I have actually i've met DMX in the last five years. 1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:28.200 Back then, I never met DMX, but I was understated 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:35.200 in d Law Swiss the sound and the logo, the yeah, 1:07:35.240 --> 1:07:36.840 I knew that brand was the business. 1:07:37.320 --> 1:07:39.720 Wow, And you knew that was a marketing guy behind that. 1:07:40.160 --> 1:07:40.800 That's what you're saying. 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:43.280 You knew it was like you knew that was like orchestrated, 1:07:43.400 --> 1:07:45.480 Like it wasn't just like they just filmed. 1:07:45.200 --> 1:07:46.440 It and it was just art. 1:07:46.600 --> 1:07:47.080 Like you knew that. 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:51.040 You know, anybody you've seen those videos with of course 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:54.400 it's the best shit in the world. This guy's riding 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:58.800 and hip hop on motorcycles up the West Side Highway. 1:07:59.360 --> 1:08:03.440 Standing when see with no hands going one hundred crazy? 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:06.000 Who the fuck does that grat? You know what, it's hot, 1:08:06.080 --> 1:08:11.880 but it's also the jacket fly though you had a choice. Yeah, 1:08:12.440 --> 1:08:15.439 you keep looking, you know that's cool. 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:19.800 So now that that was like that was like the 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:23.040 year of the Black ceo. Like that it was a 1:08:23.120 --> 1:08:26.160 great time for the black ceo. They had people like 1:08:26.280 --> 1:08:29.439 Dame Dash and power. They had people like Steve Style 1:08:29.520 --> 1:08:33.120 in power. Uh I believe even it wasn't your executive 1:08:33.200 --> 1:08:36.639 that Sony. Yeah, I was up at Sony at the time. 1:08:37.880 --> 1:08:40.559 Who else a Mark picture? I said him earlier, I'll 1:08:40.560 --> 1:08:44.360 say him again. A bigger month, all these black CEOs 1:08:44.400 --> 1:08:47.320 that power. We are seeing less and less black CEOs. 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:49.720 You don't have a Darren, I don't think so. I 1:08:49.800 --> 1:08:53.920 mean music business. Okay, put me on Style because you 1:08:53.960 --> 1:08:55.000 know I like his wine. 1:08:56.920 --> 1:09:00.400 A lot of black executives time. I think with Coach 1:09:00.520 --> 1:09:02.519 K is doing in Atlanta's. 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:04.280 Ridiculous Coach K. That is migos in. 1:09:04.320 --> 1:09:11.240 Themos in Atlanta, Young, there's some other kids. This is 1:09:11.280 --> 1:09:14.680 Coach K and Coach Tech. Remember we go about tack 1:09:14.840 --> 1:09:17.760 tech both both of them. All right, let's not get 1:09:18.439 --> 1:09:21.880 but I'm talking about Coach K. Coach K one is 1:09:21.960 --> 1:09:24.519 teddy boy. One of them is with titty board. That's 1:09:24.600 --> 1:09:26.760 just time. Look right now, let's go. 1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:30.920 Boy change and got to go with him. You got 1:09:31.439 --> 1:09:34.040 James coach tech us with to Chames. 1:09:34.120 --> 1:09:38.240 Coach K is top dog definitely big up top doing 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:40.080 those my people top. 1:09:40.760 --> 1:09:44.920 Then you got my man. He's not he's he's not black, 1:09:45.040 --> 1:09:48.000 but he might as well be black. Gazi Ghzi, Yes, 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:52.080 Empire he black to me, he black latinos at the top. 1:09:52.160 --> 1:09:54.519 Now what the funk are we doing? Man? Let's talking 1:09:54.520 --> 1:10:11.120 about stuff on blocks too much? Everybody went over, everybody 1:10:11.200 --> 1:10:15.880 went over up, let's go question. 1:10:15.960 --> 1:10:20.040 I don't know, I got, I am loaded, listen, so 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:24.479 stop running like running through the error of man? 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:26.160 Was there ever? 1:10:26.360 --> 1:10:28.720 Like because the people always wanted to know this like 1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:30.880 it was like I said earlier, I alluded to. 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:34.599 This, all to this, always wanted to know this because 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:38.080 it was like it was what you rising like, was 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:42.120 it underground like management beef at that time, you and 1:10:42.240 --> 1:10:45.120 Chris because it just seemed like like I said, I said, 1:10:45.120 --> 1:10:46.120 I alluded to it earlier. 1:10:46.120 --> 1:10:48.439 I was like if you were getting money at a 1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:50.920 certain period, it was either with Chris or you was 1:10:51.000 --> 1:10:55.439 with Steve, like straight up, like I'm talking about at 1:10:55.479 --> 1:10:57.320 that one period, you know the period I'm talking about. 1:10:57.800 --> 1:11:08.439 Was there ever, like Brothers? Was it Chris Well? I mean, 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:11.920 how do you talk about this? The the man passed 1:11:13.120 --> 1:11:18.400 A tough conversation because it's easy for me to just say, 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:22.960 you know, you know Chris did is staying? You know, 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:31.880 Chris was Chris was a very special, talented dude. Man. 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:35.320 It was for me when I first came up. I 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:37.639 looked up to him, and then I became his pet 1:11:38.280 --> 1:11:41.120 that I passed him, and it was I had to 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:43.600 deal with that. He had to deal with that. But 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:45.839 it never but again back to what I said earlier, 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:48.800 it never changed my respect for him. Chris tried to 1:11:48.880 --> 1:11:49.479 manage him. 1:11:49.400 --> 1:11:51.200 Tried to take him from me, tried to do it 1:11:51.360 --> 1:11:53.840 all kind of crazy ship while I was man. But 1:11:56.439 --> 1:11:59.280 I always held on to the fact that I looked 1:11:59.360 --> 1:12:02.479 up to him as a man who broke through in 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:03.200 the business. 1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:05.120 And everything that he did, and he taught me a lot. 1:12:05.479 --> 1:12:08.680 So there was never a beef with me. Somebody else 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:11.439 would have took it as a beef. I never took 1:12:11.439 --> 1:12:13.120 it as a beef because I had so much respect 1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:15.759 for him that I let him get away with passes. 1:12:16.040 --> 1:12:19.040 You give people passes if you respect somebody, Like if 1:12:19.040 --> 1:12:21.519 you're a friend with somebody you love them, you give 1:12:21.560 --> 1:12:24.439 him passes. You can't hold them accountable. The same way 1:12:24.760 --> 1:12:27.000 it's somebody you don't really fuck with. The person you 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:29.479 fuck with got one shot to fuck you. Person you 1:12:29.640 --> 1:12:31.519 love can do it over and over again. You find 1:12:31.520 --> 1:12:34.160 a way to make it work. And that was our relationship, 1:12:35.720 --> 1:12:39.479 and that's what I'm doing now, Like, no, you can't. 1:12:40.080 --> 1:12:44.200 You just always have a level of respect for him, 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:48.080 and I have respect for him. Mona Scott. I love 1:12:48.160 --> 1:12:50.679 Mona Scott. Like everything that those guys were. 1:12:50.640 --> 1:12:52.240 Doing to me, I take it. 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:55.080 I appreciate it. I wouldn't be here today. So it 1:12:55.200 --> 1:12:57.599 was never really a beef. It could have been a beef, 1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:58.439 but there was nothing. 1:12:58.960 --> 1:13:03.519 There was nothing. Betiful thing. Now you're on puff, y'all 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:04.840 are like cooler now. 1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:06.200 Like y'all had an incident. 1:13:06.280 --> 1:13:06.960 What was it? Over? 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:11.160 It was an over puff on the cross what happened? 1:13:11.680 --> 1:13:18.400 So yeah, So I was going back to the thing. Man, 1:13:18.439 --> 1:13:20.160 I told Ndy Santiago. 1:13:19.680 --> 1:13:21.560 This the other day. Okay, he's my fake cousin in 1:13:21.560 --> 1:13:23.200 the industry. You know my Santiago as well. 1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:26.920 Yeah, Lennias, we always claimed each other as fake cousins 1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:28.320 because our. 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:29.360 Last names of Santiago. 1:13:29.840 --> 1:13:30.880 Weird. It's very weird. 1:13:31.400 --> 1:13:36.160 We always You guys are still doing that, you guys, Yeah, yeah, 1:13:36.439 --> 1:13:36.880 go for it. 1:13:37.000 --> 1:13:38.840 It's a fact that Steve dude think you think I 1:13:38.880 --> 1:13:42.080 gotta stop this immediately. I'm taking your advice from this 1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:45.080 day on, boy, but I do call him my fake cousin. 1:13:45.120 --> 1:13:47.960 It's not like we say word cousins. But go ahead. 1:13:47.960 --> 1:13:50.280 It's a problem. So the the. 1:13:55.479 --> 1:13:58.920 Fucking j comes out in the Hard Knock Life, I'm 1:13:58.960 --> 1:14:04.240 fucking pissed, fucking how the fuck can. 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:08.040 We get this? These motherfucker's got a record. This ship 1:14:08.160 --> 1:14:10.439 is so big. Who produces hard Knock Why don't tell me, 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:15.280 I don't know who. Forty five King Rich Well Hold 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:17.880 Jay first heard the sample from forty from kick a 1:14:17.920 --> 1:14:21.559 Prie and then heard the ship and forty five King 1:14:21.920 --> 1:14:22.360 produced it. 1:14:22.800 --> 1:14:25.519 So they heard the snippet of the loop of the 1:14:25.600 --> 1:14:28.960 anti record, then forty five King produced him. So now 1:14:30.280 --> 1:14:32.479 just take it inside of the minus young Steve style. 1:14:33.280 --> 1:14:34.120 What I'm are gonna do. 1:14:35.040 --> 1:14:37.800 I can't sleep. There's no where I can see if 1:14:37.800 --> 1:14:40.240 this guy has a hit record, and what are we 1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:49.800 gonna do? And I went out and I found I 1:14:49.960 --> 1:14:53.800 heard hate Me Now was pretty Boy on the Pretty 1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:56.720 Boys on the record, told this is what. 1:14:59.520 --> 1:14:59.960 The niggas. 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:03.320 He's like, you know what, Steve is taking this thing way. 1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:06.080 Too since they checked out of this part of the process. 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:08.439 Like you going, I'm finding the record. I don't give 1:15:08.479 --> 1:15:10.800 a fuck if it comes from him whoever. I'm finding 1:15:10.840 --> 1:15:14.519 the record. I gotta beat hard, knock life, period, fuck everything. 1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:19.040 I go find the record. Fox, he plays me the record, 1:15:19.160 --> 1:15:21.400 doesn't even give a fuck about it, like this. 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:26.080 Is is stupid. She said that Derek Angelotti produced it. 1:15:26.560 --> 1:15:29.200 I called dit out. I'm like, Derek, you produce a 1:15:29.320 --> 1:15:32.960 song called hate Me Now, pretty boy on it? How 1:15:33.000 --> 1:15:35.200 could you not even play that? Finds because back then 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:37.280 you can call producers like you have the right to 1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:40.360 get the first hot beat. Of course, especially He's like, 1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:41.759 I have no idea what you're talking about. 1:15:44.200 --> 1:15:47.360 Fox. He made that up, didn't He shocked me? Wait 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:52.519 what she said that Derek produced it. Derek didn't produce it. 1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:56.439 She was trying to make the record like like it 1:15:56.560 --> 1:15:58.320 was a it was a great song, but in order 1:15:58.439 --> 1:16:00.479 to make it to market it like, oh, we got 1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:02.839 beats from Derek Angeletti me or I wasn't Derek. 1:16:02.600 --> 1:16:05.400 Angeletti, as I find out when I called Derk. So 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:08.599 then I call her brother. I call pretty boy. I'm 1:16:08.640 --> 1:16:11.400 in the studio, I said, pretty boy, Gavin. 1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:16.960 I didn't call him pretty boy? You didn't, so I said, I. 1:16:19.960 --> 1:16:25.160 Said, Gavin, you gotta come to the studio. He comes 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:26.760 to the studio and I play him the rough. 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:31.840 I'm like, who did that? He goes I did? I said, 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:33.280 you produce this? He said yep. 1:16:34.600 --> 1:16:40.080 I said, go get me the master's right now. I 1:16:40.120 --> 1:16:42.599 want them shits tonight. I buy him from I want 1:16:42.720 --> 1:16:45.760 I want that record that song. He said to me, 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:48.880 I'll give it to you. I need a set. 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:51.360 I said, what the fuck is the set? 1:16:51.720 --> 1:16:52.680 I still don't know what I said? 1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:56.519 Is? He said, I matching chain, embrace them. I said, 1:16:57.880 --> 1:16:58.800 I got you with the set. 1:16:58.840 --> 1:17:03.000 I can't do it right now, but go. It's it's 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:05.080 cold as fuck, it's the winter. I said, go get 1:17:05.120 --> 1:17:07.000 the ship. He starts to leave. I said, no, no, no, 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:10.080 give me your mink. I took his mink coat, left 1:17:10.120 --> 1:17:11.800 the mink and I said, leave your mink in the snow. 1:17:12.040 --> 1:17:13.599 He got to you and you come back. 1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:15.680 Can't wear it style. Let's go, let's go. 1:17:16.280 --> 1:17:18.280 It's not getting no not weird, is you know? 1:17:18.320 --> 1:17:19.519 It's not weird, it's just different. 1:17:19.640 --> 1:17:19.880 Let's go. 1:17:20.360 --> 1:17:22.680 I mean, I'm trying to get the song. He took 1:17:22.720 --> 1:17:24.240 his coat, and because. 1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:25.679 I don't think he's gonna come back, I just feel 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:27.320 like it's mad cold at this time. 1:17:27.400 --> 1:17:30.080 I don't know this cold. I'm not taking ship. 1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:32.360 I'd be like, it's forty one little outside. You let 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:33.400 him beat her the T shirt. 1:17:33.520 --> 1:17:34.200 This was drink chin. 1:17:34.600 --> 1:17:34.800 Yeah. 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:42.599 Yeah, did he wants to ride on away watching I'm 1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:43.840 he doesn't. 1:17:44.040 --> 1:17:44.439 Just that he. 1:17:46.920 --> 1:17:49.439 About to get shat good good. Now he comes back, 1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:52.240 he comes back with the record. Big up, Gavin. He 1:17:52.320 --> 1:17:56.439 comes back with the song, and now's it. He was 1:17:56.479 --> 1:17:57.920 trying to sound like puffing Mass. 1:17:58.000 --> 1:17:59.720 I was about to ask that that was the next thing. 1:17:59.720 --> 1:18:00.160 He was right. 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:02.200 It sound like puff Puff is the biggest star in 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:05.240 the world. I get a record, nas, I'm like, I'm 1:18:05.240 --> 1:18:06.719 telling everybody this is the single. 1:18:06.800 --> 1:18:07.200 Everybody. 1:18:07.520 --> 1:18:08.920 I don't care what you do. I don't care what 1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:11.920 anybody does, because what we're doing this is this is 1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:13.040 gonna be hard, not life. 1:18:14.120 --> 1:18:18.599 This is a fact. Then you go to queens. No no, no, no, no, okay. 1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:22.400 So then so then after we go, Nas records the record. 1:18:22.680 --> 1:18:24.240 How many times that I make? How many times that 1:18:24.439 --> 1:18:28.360 mixed that ringing? I would mix it over and over 1:18:28.600 --> 1:18:31.599 and over and over and over and over again. 1:18:31.880 --> 1:18:34.640 There's such a valuable lesson in my life with that 1:18:34.800 --> 1:18:37.679 song because I wanted it so bad. 1:18:38.560 --> 1:18:41.200 I wanted it so bad. That shot down and. 1:18:42.200 --> 1:18:46.320 He recorded that mixed. Then Puffy recorded anything. Then we 1:18:46.520 --> 1:18:47.800 go to shoot the video. 1:18:48.400 --> 1:18:52.160 The videos a million dollars high Wind wants a million 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:54.840 dollars to shoot it. Puffy has this idea, we're gonna 1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:57.120 drive the cross and the desert. We're gonna do this. 1:18:57.200 --> 1:18:57.840 We're gonna do that. 1:18:58.320 --> 1:19:01.080 And Puffy taught me something. He told us all something 1:19:01.240 --> 1:19:03.599 very smart back then. I think about it all the time. 1:19:03.680 --> 1:19:06.559 He's like, when you want to do something like really 1:19:06.680 --> 1:19:11.240 fucking shocking, like you gotta do like I'm in. He 1:19:11.320 --> 1:19:12.880 had shot this r Kelly video and they were in 1:19:12.960 --> 1:19:15.840 a convertible and it was raining or it was snowing 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:17.880 or something like that. He's like that's when you do 1:19:18.000 --> 1:19:20.080 that shit, like you drop the top and the shit's 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:20.919 raining outside. 1:19:21.160 --> 1:19:21.960 That shit is dope. 1:19:22.880 --> 1:19:25.520 Like bringing to perform on the top of a bodega 1:19:25.600 --> 1:19:27.719 and light that bitch like it's Madison Square Garden. 1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:31.760 I'm like, oh shit, And I was like, that's what 1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:33.720 I did, and can it be so simple? The Wu 1:19:33.840 --> 1:19:35.400 Tang video. I made the projects look. 1:19:35.240 --> 1:19:38.960 Beautiful and I'm like, so now I got the vision. 1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:42.040 We're gonna hate me now Jesus went through being hated. 1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:44.880 We're gonna do this thing in Queens. We're gonna light 1:19:44.920 --> 1:19:48.040 this shit up, all right, Cool, we go through the 1:19:48.080 --> 1:19:54.000 whole thing. Shoot the video, Million Bucks spent and Puff 1:19:55.080 --> 1:20:02.599 two days before his reverend doesn't want to be him 1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:03.800 on the records. 1:20:05.080 --> 1:20:07.679 On the cross, Puff puffs Puff as. 1:20:07.600 --> 1:20:10.080 A reference who didn't want them to be on there, 1:20:10.640 --> 1:20:13.439 and I have to respect what his references. 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:15.680 I'm going to see him like Puff think because they 1:20:15.720 --> 1:20:17.560 were black crows on the cross, it was it was 1:20:18.160 --> 1:20:22.240 very very dark. Bike Williams put Crocus on the cross, 1:20:22.320 --> 1:20:24.640 but they didn't do that last they were actually there, right, 1:20:24.800 --> 1:20:27.240 they could have been I remember, I don't know, it 1:20:27.439 --> 1:20:33.360 could have been there. It was dark, it was very 1:20:33.479 --> 1:20:36.439 very dark, and I can see why preacher or something 1:20:37.320 --> 1:20:41.479 whatever an issue is blasphemous to if you're religious, right, 1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:45.519 doesn't change that. The narrative is ridiculously dupe. You know. 1:20:45.600 --> 1:20:50.000 It's cinematics there on the other side. No one talks 1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:55.320 about the two other guys. Oh yeah, the thief. No 1:20:55.439 --> 1:20:57.639 one talks about those guys, the guys. 1:20:58.320 --> 1:21:01.960 This is spending wider funks with it. So I continue. 1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:08.280 So he wants he wants that gets mad after because 1:21:08.320 --> 1:21:12.640 past knows beforehand, before beforehand, Pump is like, no, no, no, 1:21:12.720 --> 1:21:14.240 no no, But the edits already done. 1:21:14.560 --> 1:21:17.639 Shouldn't they do another edit without him on the cross? 1:21:18.040 --> 1:21:21.479 But this is the part that Pump got. I'm the manager, guys. 1:21:21.640 --> 1:21:22.280 If the other. 1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:27.360 Company spent hundred dollars spending money, the record company spent 1:21:27.439 --> 1:21:31.320 the money. They have two videos done, and it's a 1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:34.479 t r Oh World per Man, and everybody wants to 1:21:34.520 --> 1:21:36.320 be a t r O and the World per Man. 1:21:36.560 --> 1:21:37.680 That's what all rapping. 1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:42.000 Artists were getting. The rap artist wasn't getting mad. Yeah 1:21:42.000 --> 1:21:43.200 it's hip hop is not getting that. 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:47.200 But now we're gonna take down hard knock life, you 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:48.719 know anyhow, because. 1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:51.040 Comes out. 1:21:52.600 --> 1:21:54.719 The head of the record company was ahead of Sony 1:21:54.840 --> 1:21:57.720 Music at the time. This guy named don Einer. This 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:03.120 is a guy. This guy absolute racist. Let's go to 1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:07.679 this right. He dropped fifty cent, he dropped the Lisia keys. 1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:12.599 He he did not fuck with anything if it had 1:22:12.640 --> 1:22:13.800 a problem attached to it. 1:22:14.120 --> 1:22:16.760 Columbia, Columbia Records. A guy who dited it was a 1:22:16.800 --> 1:22:23.720 complete pig. This guy straight up. Yeah, this guy puts 1:22:23.800 --> 1:22:24.240 up the money. 1:22:24.479 --> 1:22:27.960 So now when Puff wants to change the video, Donnie's like, 1:22:28.760 --> 1:22:30.960 I already laid out the money, but I can't even 1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:33.759 I'm trying to get Puff to see the other side, 1:22:34.040 --> 1:22:37.919 but I can't control they're putting that video on a TRL. 1:22:38.960 --> 1:22:42.160 When the video goes up, if everybody holds me responsible 1:22:42.520 --> 1:22:43.080 not even. 1:22:43.000 --> 1:22:45.880 Knowing that there's a guy who wrote the check who 1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:48.560 was like, he knows who that cross scene is. That 1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:52.160 shit was half of that million dollars. He's not taking 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:54.280 that shit out for the tro warper Man. Yeah, he's 1:22:54.280 --> 1:22:58.840 accounting for it. Puff, She's the video TRL goes on 1:22:58.920 --> 1:23:03.280 at three o'clock, three o two four. Niggas in my office. 1:23:03.640 --> 1:23:04.240 They jumped me. 1:23:04.680 --> 1:23:07.360 They beat me up in my office three O two, 1:23:08.080 --> 1:23:13.439 three oh three, that's what happens. What but what takes 1:23:13.520 --> 1:23:21.200 place within years after that is like my relationship with Puff, 1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:24.519 we both came up at the same exact time. We're 1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:32.160 both we maybe doing this, we maybe give up yet 1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:35.320 the two oldest guys who've been doing it the longest. 1:23:35.479 --> 1:23:38.960 Maybe because I remember I was. I was in Puff's 1:23:39.000 --> 1:23:43.160 office when Magic Johnson announced he ad ads like that 1:23:43.320 --> 1:23:46.560 was ninety two, Like I remember specifically being in this 1:23:46.680 --> 1:23:50.080 office and he was promoting the party he worked at uptown, 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:53.720 Like that's how long I noticed guy. So our relationship 1:23:53.840 --> 1:23:54.280 was long. 1:23:54.160 --> 1:23:56.880 And it was always a mutual respect, even when he 1:23:57.040 --> 1:23:58.720 was as big as he was, the biggest star in 1:23:58.760 --> 1:23:59.120 the world. 1:23:59.520 --> 1:24:03.000 I never felt like I couldn't call them or whatever 1:24:03.080 --> 1:24:06.880 whatever whatever. So when that took place, it was fucked up, 1:24:06.960 --> 1:24:07.880 and I was embarrassed. 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:10.160 Naturally, I was embarrassed, becau I didn't even want that 1:24:10.240 --> 1:24:14.560 to be to define who I was, Like some motherfucking 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:20.240 bum ass nigga that got jumped punis bullshit, and definitely 1:24:20.400 --> 1:24:25.560 called my moms, apologize to my mom's that gore to 1:24:25.640 --> 1:24:27.320 me than anything else, and. 1:24:27.360 --> 1:24:30.479 Then like, you know, that's how close you was. Yeah, 1:24:31.000 --> 1:24:34.040 but when did when did that happen. When it happened, 1:24:34.040 --> 1:24:37.680 he immediately called my moms. That was the immediate thing. 1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:40.200 You have to get up. You got to call my 1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:44.240 mother first for the jumping you. My mother doesn't know 1:24:44.280 --> 1:24:47.120 if I'm die in this music business, so all she's 1:24:47.160 --> 1:24:50.240 doing is looking at listen. You gotta call her. I 1:24:50.520 --> 1:24:53.120 need to get that off from my back, like you, 1:24:53.280 --> 1:24:57.120 everybody knows sad. So we got past the mom thing 1:24:57.760 --> 1:25:01.640 and then no, it was wild. It was It was 1:25:01.720 --> 1:25:03.040 weird because it was. 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:05.680 A very vital pivotal point in my life because I'm like, 1:25:06.760 --> 1:25:08.679 you know, I got money too, I can hire soldiers. 1:25:08.720 --> 1:25:11.439 We could do with that, like you could do that, right, 1:25:11.680 --> 1:25:14.200 You could easily do that like a tifferent tap. Yeah, 1:25:14.360 --> 1:25:17.599 you can definitely play that game. I'm not that guy. 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:23.439 He's I'm not that guy. And y'all was cool enough. 1:25:23.520 --> 1:25:25.560 He knew your family that no, he knew. No, he 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:27.800 didn't know my family to call my mom though it 1:25:27.960 --> 1:25:30.200 was somebody he knew my momy. The chore, whether you 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:34.000 knew or not, the aftermath of when you look at 1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:36.800 it now, I mean, I stay in his house, he 1:25:36.880 --> 1:25:37.719 stays in my house. 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:43.080 You know, A probably the situation that aged well, yeah, well, 1:25:43.120 --> 1:25:43.960 how do you all mend that? 1:25:44.080 --> 1:25:44.240 Though? 1:25:44.320 --> 1:25:45.280 How do y'all mend that? 1:25:45.320 --> 1:25:47.120 How does that happen? Was it? 1:25:47.200 --> 1:25:47.719 Do Nas? 1:25:47.760 --> 1:25:48.160 I feel like? 1:25:48.280 --> 1:25:48.320 No? 1:25:48.840 --> 1:25:55.080 Nas Wasnas was worthless and trying to fix it. Jesus, 1:25:57.640 --> 1:26:05.200 he was worthless and trying to fix that. Like that's 1:26:05.200 --> 1:26:09.719 all let's start. Come on, man, it's not cool. 1:26:09.880 --> 1:26:12.960 So how how the two ty coons work out a 1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:14.520 problem that was misfortunate? 1:26:14.840 --> 1:26:17.599 How does this happen in real life and real time? 1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:19.679 And we could all learn from that? Yeah, we could 1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:20.439 all learn from that. 1:26:21.280 --> 1:26:24.960 Well, I have to walk around for two years and 1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:27.320 people saying they me Puffy hit you over Hald at 1:26:27.320 --> 1:26:27.719 the bottom. 1:26:28.520 --> 1:26:30.600 I have to walk around. I have to own that 1:26:32.000 --> 1:26:35.880 that didn't happen. But you know I got Yeah, I 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:36.160 got to. 1:26:38.640 --> 1:26:42.840 That feeling could easily allow you to go get some 1:26:43.000 --> 1:26:46.960 guns or some guys and go do something in order 1:26:47.000 --> 1:26:52.519 for you to feel like you were like you weren't 1:26:52.520 --> 1:26:54.880 a victim, like people were just somebody like you weren't. 1:26:55.080 --> 1:27:01.439 No, I'm not I'm not guying, but we gotta in life. 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:03.360 You gotta play the marathon, man, You gotta play the 1:27:03.439 --> 1:27:06.680 long game. You gotta play the long game. Why don't look, 1:27:06.680 --> 1:27:08.120 I'm here this guy. 1:27:09.479 --> 1:27:14.600 Chris, Oh no, this story I heard it, Chris, So 1:27:14.960 --> 1:27:15.960 you're gonna hear it from me now. 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:19.160 The wedding was like, you're disrespect You're gonna answer me 1:27:19.240 --> 1:27:23.920 on tape. This guy, Chris Lightings wedding is a drunk 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:29.599 at this man's wedding, he remembers and he's going around 1:27:30.080 --> 1:27:32.280 and he's flipping out on me. And it's like Chris 1:27:32.400 --> 1:27:36.160 Lighty's wedding and you something was in Miami. 1:27:36.240 --> 1:27:39.920 It's Inamoy with the record we produced Mary j. BLI 1:27:40.240 --> 1:27:44.160 was like a firm, Yeah, this is the thing you 1:27:44.720 --> 1:27:45.080 walked in. 1:27:45.640 --> 1:27:48.360 It was. It hurted my feelings so bad. I took 1:27:48.400 --> 1:27:50.280 you up the record. No, you know, I was still 1:27:50.320 --> 1:27:50.880 on the record. 1:27:50.960 --> 1:27:53.200 But y'all said you walked in and it was you 1:27:53.240 --> 1:27:55.479 said something like you sure we're gonna keep him on 1:27:55.520 --> 1:27:56.840 the record in front of me. 1:27:57.200 --> 1:27:59.720 I wanted you to t way that in or something. 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:02.760 You just said in front of me. 1:28:03.520 --> 1:28:05.160 But you know what, And then let me just tell 1:28:05.160 --> 1:28:07.400 you something. I recently came to. 1:28:07.439 --> 1:28:10.880 You at NAS did this thing, and I apologize because 1:28:10.880 --> 1:28:14.000 you know why I needed you didn't give me. 1:28:14.320 --> 1:28:15.760 It's not that you didn't give me no love. 1:28:15.840 --> 1:28:18.400 You give me the toughest love ever, and you being 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:21.360 from Queens and we being from Queens. I realized that 1:28:21.479 --> 1:28:25.320 twenty years later that I needed that. I needed you 1:28:25.439 --> 1:28:27.439 to be tough on me, Like when you walked in. 1:28:27.840 --> 1:28:30.000 I was the only guy that was on that record 1:28:30.040 --> 1:28:34.040 that wasn't firm. You were supposed to question that moment. No, 1:28:34.439 --> 1:28:36.599 no champions, let me let me make you up because 1:28:36.680 --> 1:28:40.599 it's big enough. And so those years I was mad 1:28:40.680 --> 1:28:42.920 at you because I was like, damn, because. 1:28:43.120 --> 1:28:45.800 Like I was used to people being fake to me, 1:28:46.600 --> 1:28:49.280 like they'll talk about me behind my back. You actually 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:53.960 talked about me in front of my face. Are sure 1:28:54.080 --> 1:29:00.839 we want him on the record. I'm like, sto, niggas 1:29:00.880 --> 1:29:06.200 do that right now, and even I'm leaving your question. 1:29:06.439 --> 1:29:10.479 But whatever it was, and I needed that tough love, 1:29:10.560 --> 1:29:12.639 like listen, listen, listen, because that's who makes me who 1:29:12.720 --> 1:29:16.120 I am today. I had and in retrospect, when I 1:29:16.160 --> 1:29:18.400 hear you speak about other artists, I could see it 1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:21.880 because Chris had invested me a little early, and I 1:29:22.040 --> 1:29:23.840 was Na's friend or Jungle's friend. 1:29:24.400 --> 1:29:27.160 But I just I just didn't have no, like you said, structure. 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:29.640 So I understand later it's just like you said, you 1:29:29.800 --> 1:29:30.439 just called Dave. 1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:33.360 That's why I felt with you. And I was like, 1:29:33.479 --> 1:29:36.200 you know what, because the thing about it is, I 1:29:36.240 --> 1:29:39.160 don't I want it that way. I wanted to just 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:42.519 be able to if somebody don't see see the picture. 1:29:42.800 --> 1:29:44.400 I liked it that like you know what I'm saying, 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:46.400 Like I mean, now I could realize that. 1:29:46.479 --> 1:29:47.120 You know what I'm saying. 1:29:47.240 --> 1:29:50.680 That's what you about that I mean today because you 1:29:50.800 --> 1:29:52.000 apologize you said it to me. 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:52.240 I was. 1:29:52.360 --> 1:29:55.160 I was tough on you. I listened to all your music, Babe. 1:29:55.800 --> 1:29:59.439 You used to take rhymes off see some crazy ship 1:29:59.520 --> 1:30:02.679 that was not when you but you could also write. 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:07.080 Listen to your rhymes on t O n Y. Listen 1:30:07.160 --> 1:30:09.080 to what you say. Can you go to some other 1:30:09.120 --> 1:30:11.439 records and you don't even give a fuck. It's definitely 1:30:11.520 --> 1:30:20.439 choose that, Yeah, And I'm like, do that. I was 1:30:20.479 --> 1:30:23.720 never what you listen to be honest with you, it's 1:30:23.840 --> 1:30:28.840 just that you know what it was anything no record 1:30:28.880 --> 1:30:30.960 I ever came out slacked on any rhyme on the 1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:33.800 track master beat. That's a fact, because what is it? 1:30:33.960 --> 1:30:36.760 That's what I'm leaving. I'm leaving. Oh my god, I 1:30:36.920 --> 1:30:45.040 killed that let me take me. That's test. That was natureself. 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:46.400 You you have a bully man. 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:52.320 I do agree with you. 1:30:53.520 --> 1:30:56.960 Listen, listen, Okay, describe that s that was in l A. 1:30:57.120 --> 1:31:01.479 Remember l A. Okay was opened up the Firm album. Yes, 1:31:01.760 --> 1:31:05.200 I thought I was finished. We had some more joints and. 1:31:07.400 --> 1:31:08.920 I need to get on this Firm album. 1:31:09.920 --> 1:31:11.680 No, no, no, they flew me up. I actually got 1:31:11.800 --> 1:31:14.799 flew out. I got fifty that it was more about everything. 1:31:15.400 --> 1:31:19.680 I think it was no bundles dout that I just was. 1:31:19.880 --> 1:31:21.880 I was. I was happy to be a part of 1:31:22.439 --> 1:31:27.200 a classic. Continue. It was for nature. No, it was 1:31:27.320 --> 1:31:30.320 nature session. That's how I remember. I came in and 1:31:30.439 --> 1:31:34.280 you played the bat and Nature had nothing for it. 1:31:35.439 --> 1:31:42.400 And I couldn't resist. Say I got something exactly and 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:45.400 I went in and looked crazy. Let me tell you something. 1:31:45.840 --> 1:31:46.639 This is the Crazy ship. 1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:48.880 A lot of people don't know I come from the 1:31:49.000 --> 1:31:51.599 Unique days. Like I'm sorry, I'm sure how I'm forty 1:31:51.680 --> 1:31:53.680 years old. Forty years stout already blew me up. He 1:31:53.720 --> 1:31:56.960 must have googled. He knew, he said, I just got Yeah, 1:31:57.240 --> 1:32:01.639 everybody's forty, you know, I'm really forty. So I come 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:05.439 from unique studio days where you write the whole rhyme 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:07.360 and you lay it as such. 1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:12.200 So I remember that I lave man remember the. 1:32:12.640 --> 1:32:14.880 Tape the two inch I had the whole. 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:17.840 I had laid the whole rhyme in front of nature, 1:32:17.880 --> 1:32:20.280 and they was like, didn't we say this this? This? 1:32:21.640 --> 1:32:25.320 So they like I laid the whole even like like 1:32:26.080 --> 1:32:28.200 I can't say one tape, but I had because I 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:29.160 had had an idea. 1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:34.600 It was definitely wasn't one tape. Nah. He knows that 1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:37.080 that one bloody money part too. 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:41.960 Versus because that's how sixteens back then. 1:32:42.280 --> 1:32:42.840 Listen, listen. 1:32:42.960 --> 1:32:46.000 I had wrote rhymes back then style as a whole 1:32:46.120 --> 1:32:49.559 thing song. But I would do right now, I would 1:32:49.560 --> 1:32:50.759 be doing thirty two bars. 1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:54.040 And then you don't play music like if we say something, 1:32:54.080 --> 1:32:55.440 you can't hit like a boom. 1:32:56.560 --> 1:32:58.000 Trying to pay no publisher company. 1:33:00.120 --> 1:33:05.080 You do. You didn't want to relax you the whole episode. 1:33:12.000 --> 1:33:18.320 He still manage. He's still trying to take well, look, 1:33:18.400 --> 1:33:21.240 let me ask you something and and Tom to look. 1:33:21.400 --> 1:33:24.679 You know, sound ex changes right now. Sound is changed 1:33:24.760 --> 1:33:25.840 is something that. 1:33:28.080 --> 1:33:30.479 Is internet bis internet asscat. 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:31.400 It's the government. 1:33:31.479 --> 1:33:34.080 It's the government. Now they pay you for every song. 1:33:34.240 --> 1:33:37.959 So now let's suppose in on a podcast. A podcast 1:33:38.120 --> 1:33:40.080 is something that you don't play music or whatever. Right, 1:33:40.240 --> 1:33:41.360 but let's go becauselet's sleep. 1:33:41.560 --> 1:33:43.840 I feel like me you and told me some money 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:44.280 in this way. 1:33:44.400 --> 1:33:50.040 Look, we're gonna start making sound is change recognize recognize 1:33:50.120 --> 1:33:52.240 a podcast when we play music. 1:33:52.640 --> 1:33:56.200 So now now we can get sound exchanged for podcasting periods. 1:33:56.240 --> 1:33:56.760 You know what I'm saying. 1:33:56.840 --> 1:34:00.720 Listen, listen, listen sounded Change pays you for or with 1:34:01.000 --> 1:34:04.240 you your internet question. 1:34:04.439 --> 1:34:05.280 I'm not going anywhere. 1:34:06.160 --> 1:34:09.240 Okay, cool, because you know I became a member of 1:34:09.280 --> 1:34:11.920 the SOHO today and I'm not even going to get 1:34:11.960 --> 1:34:12.559 my membership. 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:18.679 Y'all changed these stop. I'll tell you, I'm very proud 1:34:18.720 --> 1:34:21.400 of this. By the way, I've never played the game. 1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:24.120 You know what was my problem coming up? I just 1:34:24.240 --> 1:34:29.280 wanted blowing me up? 1:34:31.320 --> 1:34:36.640 Going ready stop listen. I realized I fucked up. What 1:34:36.800 --> 1:34:39.000 I mean by that is some of the most famous 1:34:39.160 --> 1:34:42.639 years of my life. I didn't want to play the game. 1:34:42.720 --> 1:34:47.160 You ever watched Entourage already, goal says the Vents. You 1:34:47.360 --> 1:34:49.560 never played the game VNS. 1:34:50.080 --> 1:34:52.439 Like I had success, I went platinum, and I still 1:34:52.479 --> 1:34:53.599 wanted to hang up the tunnel. 1:34:53.960 --> 1:34:55.599 I never wanted to go over there. 1:34:56.000 --> 1:35:00.439 I never wanted to go to like that's not on stop. Okay, good, 1:35:01.520 --> 1:35:05.280 you could throw it out. It's not like you shouldn't 1:35:05.280 --> 1:35:08.040 have made money, went Blacknam, and you still shouldn't have 1:35:08.040 --> 1:35:13.200 went to the tunnel. All those things are cool. You 1:35:14.400 --> 1:35:15.160 just weren't you. 1:35:15.439 --> 1:35:19.160 If you don't take your craft seriously, if you don't 1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:20.600 work on your craft, you take it for. 1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:22.479 Granted, take it for granted. 1:35:22.520 --> 1:35:25.080 I think is that's she was taking it for granted. 1:35:25.400 --> 1:35:28.080 You don't funk the Soulo House. You just don't take 1:35:28.080 --> 1:35:29.800 your whatever. 1:35:30.800 --> 1:35:34.040 The food isn't great, it is. The vibe is good. 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:37.280 The food isn't great, But the mallible one is fantastical. 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:40.280 That's a separate vibe. That's a whole. It's a separate vibe. 1:35:40.960 --> 1:35:43.320 I got that membership too as well. So I'm sorry. 1:35:45.320 --> 1:35:45.760 That's what you. 1:35:48.080 --> 1:35:49.679 Gotta relax. You get it. You listen. 1:35:49.760 --> 1:35:52.320 I know what you be getting movies. 1:35:53.840 --> 1:35:58.360 House to let's make some money. It's like. 1:36:00.160 --> 1:36:01.960 The got He's never gonna show you got money like 1:36:02.040 --> 1:36:17.360 he's never it's never liked like now hip hop. 1:36:17.400 --> 1:36:20.320 I'm sorry, we're gonna change the subject hip hop it's 1:36:20.520 --> 1:36:23.679 really actually has a chance to be wealthy. 1:36:23.800 --> 1:36:25.720 And for a while people only had a chance to 1:36:25.760 --> 1:36:28.519 be rich or be what I like to call hood 1:36:28.680 --> 1:36:30.320 rich or nigga rich. 1:36:30.760 --> 1:36:33.000 Now it's a real chance for us to have. 1:36:33.200 --> 1:36:39.160 Wealthy and wealthy we are we are? Did you y'all. 1:36:42.080 --> 1:36:43.800 Know I'm gonna take a shot of your whisky. 1:36:43.840 --> 1:36:49.639 I never did this, Like you don't drink, mother, I'm drinking. 1:36:49.720 --> 1:36:50.800 But you want to? 1:36:51.120 --> 1:36:53.719 Yeah, right, I got I can't get my sofhole card 1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:57.880 so hard. I need you to teach me more. I'm 1:36:57.920 --> 1:37:00.360 right here. Okay, you want to teach me, I'm like, 1:37:01.160 --> 1:37:03.679 I'm not going anywhere. I've been texting you. I wanted 1:37:03.720 --> 1:37:10.160 to do this. Tell me about the fucking so Okay, look, 1:37:11.160 --> 1:37:12.599 you got to teach rat class. 1:37:13.280 --> 1:37:17.840 You got it right now. But I mean, but all actuality, right. 1:37:19.800 --> 1:37:26.719 Look, the issue is the following man. At some point, 1:37:28.920 --> 1:37:31.880 you gotta really believe that you're not full of ship 1:37:32.040 --> 1:37:34.400 and getting over them to make some money. You just 1:37:34.439 --> 1:37:38.840 got to know that you really are talented, you really. 1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:41.559 Are good, You really are bringing more to the table 1:37:41.640 --> 1:37:42.840 than anybody realizes. 1:37:43.320 --> 1:37:48.960 And once you started believing that, accepting that truly, then 1:37:49.000 --> 1:37:53.200 you start making deals that are applicable to what you 1:37:53.320 --> 1:37:57.559 are putting up for the transaction to work. And that's 1:37:57.600 --> 1:38:01.160 how we're going to make all the money. Like whether 1:38:01.320 --> 1:38:04.080 it's a big enough I'm entering the music business again. 1:38:04.120 --> 1:38:06.439 I'm going back in the music business. That's the announcement 1:38:06.600 --> 1:38:08.080 was about to make. Yeah, I'm going back in the 1:38:08.200 --> 1:38:11.640 music business. You make it, and yeah, we're going back 1:38:11.680 --> 1:38:14.760 in the music business. Anybody be quiet home. You're going 1:38:14.880 --> 1:38:17.400 back and I'm going back in the music business. So 1:38:17.680 --> 1:38:20.960 we need a black CEO. I spent my time. I 1:38:21.080 --> 1:38:22.080 learned the music business. 1:38:22.840 --> 1:38:25.240 Then I went and I built an advertising company. You 1:38:25.320 --> 1:38:28.040 did nothing about advertising, Yes you did. All of a sudden, 1:38:28.040 --> 1:38:31.160 everybody got cool advertising. I was there five years of 1:38:31.400 --> 1:38:34.040 naturally what the word was? What was natural to me? 1:38:35.080 --> 1:38:38.600 You put Pepsi with who you did mount commercials? How 1:38:38.640 --> 1:38:44.439 about the how about the ai J? We got the 1:38:44.560 --> 1:38:50.519 beat with the white background, and you you introduced the 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:55.160 jay Z Seker said, screams all that ship. They wouldn't 1:38:55.160 --> 1:38:56.560 even be no sneakers. 1:38:57.040 --> 1:38:59.439 Not hip hop sneakers. Did you just tell me you 1:38:59.520 --> 1:39:01.599 had something to do the easies? Because then I'm gonna 1:39:01.920 --> 1:39:02.639 man at you again. 1:39:03.520 --> 1:39:09.200 I'm gonna all my pan I got no fun. 1:39:09.640 --> 1:39:12.400 Jay Z was jay Z sneaking the first hip hop sneaker. 1:39:12.920 --> 1:39:17.439 There was a failed attempt to do it for jay 1:39:17.520 --> 1:39:21.160 Z run DMC with thedias up. 1:39:21.439 --> 1:39:23.799 Oh they sucked them because. 1:39:23.680 --> 1:39:24.280 They didn't have you. 1:39:24.800 --> 1:39:27.439 No, they fuck it up because they they don't you. 1:39:27.520 --> 1:39:31.040 They ain't have you. They fucking a hunt jay Z ship, 1:39:31.360 --> 1:39:33.280 the ship, the ice cream ship that we. 1:39:34.160 --> 1:39:36.800 How monumental was that because that was the first time 1:39:36.840 --> 1:39:41.559 you see jay Z and fifty cent actually in the commercial. 1:39:42.520 --> 1:39:43.640 How monumental was that? 1:39:44.000 --> 1:39:44.800 Did they go back and. 1:39:44.840 --> 1:39:49.200 Forth, back and forth froging for me? That's what I do, man, 1:39:50.479 --> 1:39:53.280 I'm really really nice. But I do know, we know 1:39:53.400 --> 1:39:54.880 that that's probably why I was mad at you all 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:56.559 these years. I just wanted some of the help. 1:39:56.840 --> 1:40:00.600 Let's some of your money by keep it, not the 1:40:00.680 --> 1:40:03.880 money for it, I really see from that respective. Anyhow, 1:40:04.439 --> 1:40:10.120 we going back to the music business. I feel like artists, 1:40:11.080 --> 1:40:13.280 there's always gonna be big artists. There's always gonna be 1:40:13.479 --> 1:40:18.400 artists who don't really need anything other than the fact 1:40:18.439 --> 1:40:20.519 that once they get up and they rock, they can 1:40:20.600 --> 1:40:22.400 go on to make a lot of money. But then 1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:25.000 there's a lot of artists that are not those big artists, 1:40:25.560 --> 1:40:28.000 and they really do need help. And if you're gonna 1:40:28.040 --> 1:40:30.960 sell money, you're gonna sell music is gonna get streamed, 1:40:31.600 --> 1:40:33.840 and you get all these streams, and by the time 1:40:33.880 --> 1:40:35.960 it goes through your label and get to you, you 1:40:36.080 --> 1:40:37.160 make this amount of money. 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:40.360 You already know you're not gonna make any money from 1:40:40.360 --> 1:40:40.959 the streams. 1:40:41.280 --> 1:40:44.479 You're gonna make any money touring, selling merds, some hats, 1:40:44.720 --> 1:40:49.360 all this shit. So we're building a company called United Masters, right, 1:40:49.520 --> 1:40:53.600 and the job of United Masters is specifically to be 1:40:53.720 --> 1:40:56.120 able to take all the data that comes off of 1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:59.000 your streaming and allow you to find those people in 1:40:59.120 --> 1:41:01.799 the real world so you could sell them merchant tickets 1:41:01.840 --> 1:41:03.880 and ship direcord so you don't have to be no 1:41:04.000 --> 1:41:05.760 longer able to do it. 1:41:06.280 --> 1:41:10.000 So it really is more so it's three sixty. Well 1:41:10.040 --> 1:41:12.840 it's three. It's an agies he or a platform that 1:41:12.880 --> 1:41:15.880 people can it's an it's because of the agency to 1:41:15.960 --> 1:41:18.640 become a platform. It's a platform that artists can go on. 1:41:19.240 --> 1:41:22.519 And then figure out exactly who their fans are so 1:41:22.640 --> 1:41:23.560 they can sell ship that. 1:41:23.920 --> 1:41:28.160 Anybody can can go to the platf any artist, any 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:30.760 artist who's invited to the platform can. 1:41:30.720 --> 1:41:31.519 Go out invited. 1:41:31.920 --> 1:41:35.960 Yeah, so meaning okay, so you just can't be somebody 1:41:36.040 --> 1:41:38.240 off off the street and just post your ship on there. 1:41:38.439 --> 1:41:40.320 You have to be invited in the beginning. 1:41:40.360 --> 1:41:42.000 We want to make it. We want to make it closer. 1:41:42.320 --> 1:41:44.360 Can't do it with everybody, yeah, because it gets crazy, 1:41:44.960 --> 1:41:48.160 you know, it gets crazy now? Actually is it? Is 1:41:48.200 --> 1:41:49.680 it like a bank camp dot com? 1:41:49.880 --> 1:41:49.920 Like? 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:52.680 No, we looked at all those things, oh to buy 1:41:52.680 --> 1:41:53.160 all those things? 1:41:53.200 --> 1:41:59.000 Didn't work's bank camp bank Actually, I'm sorry, brother. 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:00.719 The platform is really great. 1:42:04.160 --> 1:42:07.040 Artists tools to be able to understand how to make 1:42:07.120 --> 1:42:09.400 money outside of just the music business. 1:42:10.520 --> 1:42:13.560 I'm taking everything that I've done in making. 1:42:13.400 --> 1:42:17.040 Artists money outside of the music business. You want to 1:42:17.040 --> 1:42:18.280 talk about the work that I've done in. 1:42:18.280 --> 1:42:20.519 That area, yes, please, because I mean I just yes, 1:42:20.640 --> 1:42:22.320 I would like I would like you to take the 1:42:22.439 --> 1:42:25.680 lead of this conversation right now. It's fantastic. 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:31.320 I've always been the guy to figure out how we're 1:42:31.360 --> 1:42:33.880 gonna make money outside of the music business. 1:42:34.400 --> 1:42:37.000 That's one thing. That's a label as this, that's that. 1:42:37.160 --> 1:42:40.760 But how we're gonna sell sneakers, how we're gonna sell 1:42:41.360 --> 1:42:43.759 more tickets, How we're gonna get endorsement deals. 1:42:45.120 --> 1:42:48.120 Push your Tea writing, I'm loving it for McDonald's. McDonald's. 1:42:48.240 --> 1:42:53.519 Yes, this is love's always been. 1:42:55.800 --> 1:42:57.479 What made you think push your tea good? 1:42:57.560 --> 1:42:57.640 Right? 1:42:57.800 --> 1:43:04.360 I love it and make the word grinding. I'm like 1:43:04.600 --> 1:43:07.200 grind d I'm like, I just liked it. That's why 1:43:07.200 --> 1:43:08.280 I was mad at you. I was want to read 1:43:08.479 --> 1:43:09.960 the grinding. You ain't think that about me? 1:43:11.280 --> 1:43:11.640 Here you go. 1:43:12.160 --> 1:43:18.000 Justin Timperlake was because I heard interview. But but push 1:43:18.040 --> 1:43:20.960 your T wrote the raps, he wrote the ship. Push 1:43:21.000 --> 1:43:24.840 your T was the writer on that, hey man. He 1:43:25.000 --> 1:43:25.639 was the whole ship. 1:43:26.280 --> 1:43:28.760 I put the whole ship around push your teeth. Justin 1:43:28.800 --> 1:43:31.000 Tim Blake was the front man. Push your Tee was 1:43:31.040 --> 1:43:31.759 behind the scenes. 1:43:33.520 --> 1:43:36.000 Suck, which is crazy, makes the most money behind the scenes. 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:39.200 He's probably the most drug dealer rapper in the world. 1:43:39.720 --> 1:43:41.439 And every time you heard it, I'm loving it. You 1:43:41.560 --> 1:43:42.519 have never thought to. 1:43:42.520 --> 1:43:44.000 Push your tea in your life. 1:43:44.320 --> 1:43:46.719 And he doesn't want you to take the check until 1:43:46.960 --> 1:43:49.720 just now anyhow, that is Thoughe so the fact that 1:43:49.880 --> 1:43:54.040 now what I want to build and it's just crawl, walk, 1:43:54.240 --> 1:43:55.240 run thing. 1:43:55.800 --> 1:43:56.400 We'll get there. 1:43:57.040 --> 1:44:00.320 Three years, five years, Timmis, We'll get there is hows 1:44:00.520 --> 1:44:04.560 artists stream their music and then be able to know 1:44:04.680 --> 1:44:07.920 who the fuck is streaming my ship, because if they 1:44:08.040 --> 1:44:10.800 like my ship, if they listen to my Yeah, if 1:44:10.800 --> 1:44:13.479 they listen to my song seventy five times, then they 1:44:13.560 --> 1:44:16.519 differently would about a dream Chimp's had. If somebody listened 1:44:16.520 --> 1:44:18.880 to every episode of this show, wouldn't you love to 1:44:18.920 --> 1:44:20.280 know where they were to sell them this happen. 1:44:20.680 --> 1:44:21.920 That's what we're trying to do, and. 1:44:22.000 --> 1:44:24.120 That's what I'm doing, right, And that's what we're building, 1:44:24.439 --> 1:44:26.080 and we're putting a team together to do that. 1:44:26.520 --> 1:44:33.120 And it requires the delicate relationship between storytelling, culture and 1:44:33.200 --> 1:44:37.160 technology and putting those things together. And that's what it is. 1:44:38.000 --> 1:44:40.479 And it's not a pie in the sky idea. It's 1:44:40.520 --> 1:44:43.519 the next evolution of where we need to go, where 1:44:43.560 --> 1:44:45.519 culture needs to go. We need to know who our 1:44:45.560 --> 1:44:49.200 super fans are. Super thumb now you are you want 1:44:49.280 --> 1:44:52.800 your are your partners on that? Yeah? Of course, God 1:44:52.880 --> 1:44:55.320 damn it. So he gonna produce the ship. 1:44:55.600 --> 1:45:03.519 No, strictly executive man, strictly executive tones help and find 1:45:03.600 --> 1:45:04.120 the artists. 1:45:05.040 --> 1:45:07.720 But I was gonna say something, you said something else. 1:45:07.800 --> 1:45:13.760 Ship this is you know it works, you do. We 1:45:13.880 --> 1:45:17.280 all over the place now with the best. But if 1:45:17.320 --> 1:45:19.200 you knew exactly all the people who watch the show 1:45:19.200 --> 1:45:20.120 and you were able to say. 1:45:20.000 --> 1:45:23.200 You know what, there's one hundred thousand people who would 1:45:23.200 --> 1:45:25.559 love to buy that shirt, wear that hat. 1:45:25.960 --> 1:45:28.360 Oh yeah, you want to upgrade us right now? I 1:45:28.360 --> 1:45:29.920 would if you would have been in that business. And 1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:31.879 you don't want to go through anybody else to interrupt 1:45:31.920 --> 1:45:37.600 that relationship. Instagram is cool and Facebook is cool, but 1:45:38.040 --> 1:45:40.599 they don't really tell you this is direct a consumer 1:45:40.680 --> 1:45:43.759 type of deal. Ultimately, we're building a director consumer business. 1:45:45.479 --> 1:45:48.160 Just so you notice for another time, you know, this 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:51.080 is eight and nine clothing stall. They're doing a thing. 1:45:51.240 --> 1:45:54.320 We partner it up and with the drink camps they 1:45:54.400 --> 1:45:56.920 handle our merchandiz and this is dope put. 1:45:57.120 --> 1:45:58.320 We could definitely use your. 1:45:58.280 --> 1:46:02.280 Expertise in helping us in a direction, because nigga, don't 1:46:02.320 --> 1:46:06.479 nobody on earth have Tom Brady. But besides you, you 1:46:06.640 --> 1:46:15.000 gotta relax and you gotta make some So would we 1:46:15.200 --> 1:46:18.720 ever have like an era like we had again, like 1:46:18.840 --> 1:46:22.479 where it was like so much years of great, great 1:46:22.640 --> 1:46:27.920 music or is it more about making an artist? Because 1:46:28.000 --> 1:46:33.920 because right now like it seems like the music is 1:46:34.040 --> 1:46:35.400 just so disposable. 1:46:36.880 --> 1:46:38.800 It isn't. I don't want to go you know, we 1:46:39.000 --> 1:46:44.400 can't please help me. It's tough. Bro's it's tough. 1:46:44.439 --> 1:46:44.559 Bro. 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:46.559 What you're about to do, it's tough. 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:50.200 Believe me, is tough, man, because because remember like remember 1:46:50.479 --> 1:46:52.200 like I don't want to date us. 1:46:52.240 --> 1:46:55.320 But in the nineties, in the nineties, I'm saying all 1:46:55.360 --> 1:46:55.600 of us. 1:46:55.720 --> 1:46:58.280 In the nineties, it felt like when when a record 1:46:58.439 --> 1:47:01.240 was a classroom like record. 1:47:02.800 --> 1:47:05.240 Oh no, that's that's with all cameras. That's how people's 1:47:05.280 --> 1:47:05.599 right there. 1:47:06.120 --> 1:47:10.360 You gotta relax listen. But in our day, it felt 1:47:10.439 --> 1:47:12.760 like back then, right when the record. 1:47:12.560 --> 1:47:14.439 Was a classic, it actually held up. 1:47:14.640 --> 1:47:16.240 I wanted to wait for my partner. I ain't wanted 1:47:16.240 --> 1:47:21.000 to when you come, okay, got downstairs, God damn stops. 1:47:21.040 --> 1:47:22.680 I feel like you want to go over here. I 1:47:22.800 --> 1:47:28.439 feel like you want to know I'm in IFN. But 1:47:28.560 --> 1:47:31.920 back then, didn't they feel like a record like lasted long? 1:47:32.000 --> 1:47:37.320 Looking it stout thought this time he wanted the records, 1:47:37.400 --> 1:47:39.080 but didn't they feel like a record. 1:47:38.880 --> 1:47:40.080 Lasted longer back then? 1:47:41.479 --> 1:47:44.800 Or now these records come and they go like like 1:47:44.840 --> 1:47:48.400 all right, for you, for you, right, stole, I'll direct 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:49.720 this perfectly to you. 1:47:51.320 --> 1:47:55.800 These people will come to you. French Montana's yo. No 1:47:56.080 --> 1:47:58.479 they drank that ship all. You didn't get the French. 1:47:59.000 --> 1:48:03.920 We got it, yeah at all. But listen, you know 1:48:04.000 --> 1:48:06.800 I'm rapper friendly. That's forty ship. We used to have 1:48:07.880 --> 1:48:11.479 bellet but young sad he be he'd be slow. But 1:48:12.400 --> 1:48:13.840 but you know we got we got on. 1:48:15.439 --> 1:48:16.639 But did it seem like back. 1:48:16.560 --> 1:48:18.680 Then, like the records, when the record wasn't hit, it 1:48:18.840 --> 1:48:20.280 actually lasted. 1:48:19.920 --> 1:48:23.800 Ten years like they actually spread as opposed. 1:48:24.920 --> 1:48:28.600 Like a classic. I mean, okay, a classic. 1:48:28.280 --> 1:48:31.200 Hosts the test of time. Are we not seeing that? 1:48:31.360 --> 1:48:32.040 Like the records? 1:48:32.120 --> 1:48:33.559 Like you'll hear somebody ill. 1:48:33.400 --> 1:48:36.760 Those I'm just popping in and I'm popping my gon 1:48:36.960 --> 1:48:39.160 and then and then what song do you think that 1:48:39.400 --> 1:48:39.880 will last? 1:48:40.000 --> 1:48:42.280 Well, you'll listen to ten years from now. That's the real. 1:48:42.560 --> 1:48:46.400 Not many, don't say not many's a good answer. Which ones? Damn? 1:48:46.479 --> 1:48:51.640 I think some of Kendrick records will yeah, yes, like 1:48:51.640 --> 1:48:55.120 I say that, I think records that will. 1:48:55.520 --> 1:48:59.040 Ye, I'm gonna give a little UZI vert some love 1:49:03.200 --> 1:49:05.519 that shit does something to my souls sometimes, Like I 1:49:05.680 --> 1:49:08.080 just ain't gonna lie. I know my old nigg I'm forty. 1:49:08.120 --> 1:49:11.960 It's facts. I'm not going to but there's something who 1:49:12.200 --> 1:49:16.479 I mean, something hestruction. It's something in my soul that 1:49:16.600 --> 1:49:18.880 comes on. I just be like, ah, ship, I don't 1:49:18.960 --> 1:49:21.519 do his dance that he do. He gotta he gotta dance, 1:49:21.840 --> 1:49:27.760 don't regular? I agree doing something I tried one day. 1:49:29.680 --> 1:49:33.400 How many songs did Nelly make that worked ten years later? 1:49:33.560 --> 1:49:37.880 Other than country ground? Damn style, you're going dancetown Damn, 1:49:38.120 --> 1:49:41.799 nothing that I remember. So now he made one song. 1:49:41.680 --> 1:49:42.719 No downtown baby. 1:49:42.880 --> 1:49:46.320 Still it's still lit country, country ground, country, I said. 1:49:46.320 --> 1:49:50.479 The other damn he said. I said, So, what's your 1:49:50.520 --> 1:49:56.719 going style? I mean, I'm making it. I'm here, I'm okay, 1:49:57.080 --> 1:50:01.080 hot in the end right hot in here before country ground? Yeah, okay. 1:50:01.720 --> 1:50:06.599 So let's say Nelly has three songs, how many songs 1:50:06.680 --> 1:50:07.400 of general. 1:50:07.240 --> 1:50:11.519 Health last ten years, last ten years, ten years later 1:50:12.360 --> 1:50:14.200 now that are still resonated. 1:50:14.920 --> 1:50:16.880 Everybody gets weird when the question comes out. 1:50:20.000 --> 1:50:20.880 Understand the question. 1:50:21.680 --> 1:50:22.400 The question is. 1:50:24.439 --> 1:50:30.479 How songs today? He saying him since won't last. So 1:50:30.640 --> 1:50:33.320 he's saying, I like little loosey vert this one song. 1:50:33.360 --> 1:50:36.240 Blah blah blah. My question is, and I'm gonna take 1:50:36.240 --> 1:50:36.639 it around. 1:50:36.840 --> 1:50:42.479 Yes, back from our era when classics were being made, right, right, 1:50:42.760 --> 1:50:45.000 how many songs from Nell he played ten years later? 1:50:45.400 --> 1:50:47.320 We're saying two maybe three? Right? 1:50:48.160 --> 1:50:51.120 So then I asked general, I'm trying to make jo 1:50:52.040 --> 1:50:53.519 trying to say that nothing's changed. 1:50:53.680 --> 1:50:57.240 Actually, what I'm getting to that feel like job, We've 1:50:57.280 --> 1:50:59.720 got a lie that plays right now now. 1:51:01.600 --> 1:51:03.559 I mean the parties I go, I'm an old nigger. 1:51:04.400 --> 1:51:05.120 They still rocking. 1:51:05.200 --> 1:51:07.160 Job I go to I got to what tab. I 1:51:07.160 --> 1:51:08.160 don't know if you ever been there. 1:51:08.880 --> 1:51:12.400 They don't play that old the new clubs. You're saying, now, 1:51:12.479 --> 1:51:13.000 what's the. 1:51:13.000 --> 1:51:20.320 Point you this, guys man? From the point? What matter 1:51:20.520 --> 1:51:26.360 is in our definition, definition of what it is. We 1:51:26.560 --> 1:51:28.639 may look at our era. 1:51:28.800 --> 1:51:32.160 We love it so much that we coveted more than 1:51:32.400 --> 1:51:34.240 when we listen to the music today. But like this 1:51:34.320 --> 1:51:37.000 ship is disposal, this is bullshit. The truth of the 1:51:37.040 --> 1:51:38.760 matter is a lot of music that we listened to 1:51:38.920 --> 1:51:41.080 back then was bull just as disposable. 1:51:41.560 --> 1:51:43.200 But we don't say that. But when you look at 1:51:43.240 --> 1:51:46.360 it ten years later, nearly hit it. It's a generational thing. 1:51:46.439 --> 1:51:51.759 It's a generational thing. You look at it. It's three songs, Jerrold, 1:51:51.960 --> 1:51:54.160 tell me how many records it is. And I hate 1:51:54.200 --> 1:51:56.320 to use those two guys because outside. 1:51:55.920 --> 1:51:59.400 Of Nelly, outside of Nile's and jay Z or Biggie, 1:52:00.040 --> 1:52:02.200 those are the guys, right those those. 1:52:02.560 --> 1:52:05.960 That isn't that is differentiation what you're saying right there, 1:52:05.960 --> 1:52:08.519 because to me, you're saying, like the Nas the Biggie, 1:52:08.720 --> 1:52:09.960 that's like Bob Marty, you. 1:52:10.080 --> 1:52:10.880 Forget those guys. 1:52:10.960 --> 1:52:13.160 That whole catalog is gonna be Revere. 1:52:13.400 --> 1:52:16.160 That's like and everybody else who came when the heels 1:52:16.200 --> 1:52:19.120 are that, Hey, what did they do? That works ten 1:52:19.200 --> 1:52:22.639 years later? Right? So now we're gonna say, oh, Kendrick 1:52:23.160 --> 1:52:28.599 Drake whoever? And now we're naming only artists ten years later, 1:52:29.200 --> 1:52:29.599 that's all. 1:52:30.040 --> 1:52:31.600 And if there's a bunch of guys who made a 1:52:31.600 --> 1:52:34.759 bunch of records who made some money in between, fuck. 1:52:34.560 --> 1:52:39.000 It, fuck it. I don't want to shoot on them. 1:52:39.120 --> 1:52:39.439 Fuck it. 1:52:40.479 --> 1:52:42.599 They're doing what they had to do. He walked into 1:52:42.680 --> 1:52:53.240 fucking session. That wasn't his asshole. It was work ethic good, 1:52:54.520 --> 1:52:56.880 you know, so like just shitting on. 1:52:57.840 --> 1:53:00.360 Believe me, I went through that process, like, man, I 1:53:00.400 --> 1:53:02.720 hate this ship, this music sucks. I can't believe this 1:53:02.800 --> 1:53:06.880 nigga has no rhymes. But then you realize that's what 1:53:08.000 --> 1:53:08.920 the generation likes. 1:53:08.920 --> 1:53:11.120 What are you supposed to do? Do what doesn't work? 1:53:12.439 --> 1:53:12.960 Make music? 1:53:13.040 --> 1:53:13.560 For you and me? 1:53:14.360 --> 1:53:17.280 We got great bits. They don't want to make music 1:53:18.000 --> 1:53:18.919 all the way White. 1:53:20.360 --> 1:53:27.120 I was great. Great was what I tried. I had 1:53:27.160 --> 1:53:29.200 the great Beer Gang t shirts. But it's not working. 1:53:29.280 --> 1:53:33.160 On looking with my bar. Don't put no inking. No, 1:53:33.200 --> 1:53:34.760 I don't do. That's what I know. 1:53:34.920 --> 1:53:40.960 Somebody who's doing everybody I know somebody that does. 1:53:41.920 --> 1:53:47.040 I don't know that. 1:53:47.240 --> 1:53:47.439 Man. 1:53:47.720 --> 1:53:48.680 I decided I'm not. 1:53:48.760 --> 1:53:52.320 Going when somebody you gotta go to Beijing. You never 1:53:52.439 --> 1:53:59.120 went Beijing? Are you crazy? I never shot Polish exactly. 1:54:00.320 --> 1:54:00.840 So now. 1:54:03.439 --> 1:54:05.160 We act the best era at hip hop. 1:54:06.320 --> 1:54:07.960 I don't think we really got that very clear, to 1:54:08.000 --> 1:54:08.760 be quite honest with you. 1:54:09.520 --> 1:54:15.400 Listen, you definely have what you define the I think 1:54:15.439 --> 1:54:15.800 it's I. 1:54:15.880 --> 1:54:20.320 Think it's I think it's eighty eight, eighty seven to 1:54:20.400 --> 1:54:24.920 eighty nine lyrics, ninety I say in nineties. 1:54:25.000 --> 1:54:27.360 He says, in nineties happened. That's why we. 1:54:28.920 --> 1:54:31.400 Because he said nineties like a decade, and then he 1:54:31.600 --> 1:54:35.600 started saying three year increments Okay, okay. 1:54:36.320 --> 1:54:40.839 So we're disagreement. We're in disagreement. That's beautiful. 1:54:41.320 --> 1:54:42.280 What's your favorite error? 1:54:43.400 --> 1:54:46.560 You know my nineties guy, because I came out. Those 1:54:46.560 --> 1:54:49.560 are three years increment, three years ago. Look at the 1:54:49.720 --> 1:54:53.040 lyrics of eighty seven. Listen, you can't influence this. 1:54:53.120 --> 1:54:54.600 I'm talking on my partner. 1:54:54.960 --> 1:54:58.160 I'm gonna be honest. We recently had everybody on here right. 1:54:58.280 --> 1:54:58.880 What he say? 1:54:59.280 --> 1:54:59.760 Too much? 1:55:01.960 --> 1:55:06.120 Great stuff? Great stuff. We love him, but. 1:55:07.880 --> 1:55:10.640 Like I know, when he was a kid, IRV and 1:55:10.720 --> 1:55:17.640 I was in the kindergarten together, yea style. Don't nobody 1:55:17.720 --> 1:55:17.960 get on. 1:55:19.680 --> 1:55:21.360 In kindergarten with another? 1:55:21.680 --> 1:55:29.640 Yeah, pictures we had Buster saying him in high school kidding, why. 1:55:33.720 --> 1:55:37.840 Kidding? In kindergarten and earth Irv? 1:55:38.640 --> 1:55:38.880 IRV? 1:55:39.000 --> 1:55:43.400 When he was Uh, I never heard of niggame. Nobody 1:55:43.480 --> 1:55:46.080 they still know? This is so hard. I'm so sorry. 1:55:46.120 --> 1:55:46.840 It's a moment for me. 1:55:46.920 --> 1:55:51.680 Style continue you in IRV Colly in kindergarten? Is it 1:55:51.840 --> 1:55:53.920 Charleston Chills involved at any point? 1:55:54.080 --> 1:55:54.320 Yeah? 1:55:55.160 --> 1:55:58.840 Now, how about this with the kindergarten, first, second, and 1:55:58.880 --> 1:56:00.960 third grade together and a worn on the same day. 1:56:03.800 --> 1:56:07.760 And I worked with Irv's brother as a bank We 1:56:07.840 --> 1:56:11.720 were both bank tellers at Chase Manhattan Bank. Oh when 1:56:11.720 --> 1:56:14.560 we were ten years old, Chris, Yeah, y'all worked with 1:56:14.640 --> 1:56:18.280 the money early. Oh yeah, so check this off. This 1:56:18.440 --> 1:56:19.360 is crazy drinking more. 1:56:25.640 --> 1:56:30.240 When he was fourteen, we had an afro ass motherfucking 1:56:30.280 --> 1:56:32.960 afro he got was Mike John Earlier there was on 1:56:33.080 --> 1:56:34.160 Mike Geronimo Mike John. 1:56:34.360 --> 1:56:36.400 Okay, fags. 1:56:37.440 --> 1:56:39.960 What that's what you call him? 1:56:39.960 --> 1:56:47.120 Michael Groon. So anyhow we go. This guy is alaricous. 1:56:48.080 --> 1:56:53.680 He's like, wasn't I wasn't read that was ready? I 1:56:53.840 --> 1:56:54.400 was not already. 1:56:54.720 --> 1:56:57.240 Stuff came ready, I came ready. 1:56:57.480 --> 1:57:01.600 He's like, ramble, He'll stop. I so appreciate you right now. 1:57:01.880 --> 1:57:04.360 Continue to be that guy. Continue. 1:57:04.560 --> 1:57:12.200 Sohow EARV is DJing in the park and spinning at 1:57:12.320 --> 1:57:14.520 fourteen years old. You know, like when you see the 1:57:14.640 --> 1:57:17.040 young kid who's a genius and everybody's like, look at 1:57:17.040 --> 1:57:19.120 this kid. That was IRV on the one and two's 1:57:19.680 --> 1:57:22.880 He was a genius. Earth was spinning and cutting at 1:57:22.920 --> 1:57:25.920 fourteen years old. And while everybody else was in the 1:57:26.000 --> 1:57:27.040 seventh eighth grade. 1:57:26.840 --> 1:57:30.360 Doing normal things, he was. He was. He was the 1:57:30.600 --> 1:57:34.800 highlight of a party like featuring IRV Gotti. Wow, this 1:57:35.000 --> 1:57:39.320 young genius. IRV God is a very very very special 1:57:39.400 --> 1:57:42.920 talented dude. Man Like I fuck with him. We've go 1:57:43.080 --> 1:57:45.600 back and forth, like you know, we do whatever regular 1:57:45.680 --> 1:57:46.200 nigga shit. 1:57:46.600 --> 1:57:51.720 That guy is really talented, loves hip hop, loves hip 1:57:51.760 --> 1:57:55.200 hop history, and I have the most respect for him. 1:57:55.200 --> 1:57:57.640 I think Tails, what he's doing with Tails is dope. 1:57:58.160 --> 1:58:00.320 I think he's gonna fucking win. I think the end 1:58:00.320 --> 1:58:02.760 of the day, when it's all over Earth got he 1:58:02.800 --> 1:58:04.000 will be at the town and. 1:58:09.240 --> 1:58:11.120 He got one of the funniest stories in the world. 1:58:12.120 --> 1:58:17.680 One day, I'm a murder what a lot of people 1:58:17.720 --> 1:58:20.280 don't know. Me and John Rud when he was twelve 1:58:20.360 --> 1:58:21.480 million and I was gold. 1:58:22.000 --> 1:58:24.480 We lived next story to each other in New Jersey. 1:58:26.760 --> 1:58:29.760 It's crazy because I had six cars. He has six cars, 1:58:29.960 --> 1:58:32.760 but his six cause was way different than my six cars. 1:58:33.320 --> 1:58:37.879 It's one hundred percent. Never hated this one right, but one. 1:58:37.760 --> 1:58:44.600 Day IRV Gotti is in the Murder Inc. Office. I 1:58:44.720 --> 1:58:47.320 walk in there. I'm going to get my. 1:58:47.440 --> 1:58:51.400 Friend, my next door neighbor, Jar Rud Drum and IRV 1:58:51.560 --> 1:58:56.520 comes in. He says, Steve Stout, he's not talking to me, 1:58:56.600 --> 1:58:57.600 He's talking to his crew. 1:58:58.440 --> 1:59:03.680 He says, Steve Stout just told me I fucked up 1:59:05.040 --> 1:59:05.520 the way I. 1:59:05.600 --> 1:59:09.120 Talked to Knives because I talked to Knives and I 1:59:09.280 --> 1:59:13.360 told him I wanted him to own his masters and 1:59:13.480 --> 1:59:17.480 I wanted him to do this. And Irv's exact words was, 1:59:18.240 --> 1:59:19.919 naves want to think about Africa. 1:59:20.200 --> 1:59:26.160 You don't want to go to Africa? What's that true? Damn? Look, 1:59:26.200 --> 1:59:30.880 I can tell her this. And I looked at I 1:59:30.960 --> 1:59:35.720 was like, oh, I said, she was like, it's funny. 1:59:35.800 --> 1:59:36.720 It's funny what you're saying. 1:59:37.520 --> 1:59:40.640 I swear God, I mean murdered office by mistake. 1:59:40.920 --> 1:59:42.880 I'm just there. I just happened to be there. 1:59:43.680 --> 1:59:47.240 And then and this is IRV got exact words. 1:59:47.280 --> 1:59:50.360 He said, you scared him off. He'll never come with you. Guys. 1:59:51.040 --> 2:00:00.560 Earth is just over the top, man. You know, no 2:00:04.960 --> 2:00:15.120 waiting stuff. Where you want to go? We ready? He 2:00:15.640 --> 2:00:21.480 gave us. There's certain rappers that I think would have 2:00:21.520 --> 2:00:26.680 been way better an R guys than rappers fat job, 2:00:29.560 --> 2:00:30.160 damn the. 2:00:34.600 --> 2:00:40.120 French Montana right now. If these guys were executives, oh. 2:00:42.080 --> 2:00:46.959 Hits like crazy Buster rhymes, fine hit records, No Buster. 2:00:46.880 --> 2:00:53.560 Ryan, fine hits, Fucking Fat Joey was the best one. 2:00:53.600 --> 2:00:56.840 Of the best an R guys period, but nobody knows 2:00:56.880 --> 2:01:00.320 that because he's trying to make the record himself, even 2:01:00.360 --> 2:01:07.120 wrecking to somebody else. That's crazy, you, my friend. 2:01:07.680 --> 2:01:11.040 Yes, but I'm finding the media outlet right now. I'm 2:01:11.080 --> 2:01:13.840 running media right now is the fantastic thing. 2:01:17.160 --> 2:01:17.320 You know. 2:01:17.640 --> 2:01:20.000 I was always mad at you for vamfo on TV, 2:01:23.640 --> 2:01:25.760 but going somewhere deep, these fans. 2:01:25.600 --> 2:01:28.440 Are real hard core fans the TV. No watch what 2:01:28.520 --> 2:01:31.360 you say about VADFA TV. I can't. They might be 2:01:32.200 --> 2:01:38.840 produce yeah Swiss, but thank you. I was really upset 2:01:38.880 --> 2:01:42.040 that you didn't really bring them. You have last on 2:01:42.120 --> 2:01:44.200 that you were supposed to go crazy. That's when that 2:01:44.440 --> 2:01:52.600 back then rapping last rhymes. Yes, and you think this 2:01:52.720 --> 2:01:54.880 is why I'm gonna have forget you gotta relaxed now. 2:01:56.680 --> 2:01:57.240 TV vers. 2:01:59.720 --> 2:01:59.760 N. 2:02:00.040 --> 2:02:03.280 That's because something you probably wasn't living. 2:02:05.960 --> 2:02:08.400 No Nature showed up. Listen, let me just. 2:02:08.440 --> 2:02:11.400 Tell you you you described the story. Now, let me 2:02:11.480 --> 2:02:15.400 just tell you I took Nature session that I'm leaving. 2:02:16.840 --> 2:02:18.360 I owe Nature that had that. 2:02:18.480 --> 2:02:19.920 Best not the best verse. 2:02:19.960 --> 2:02:21.360 He even had a person. I still feel like I 2:02:21.440 --> 2:02:22.440 had the best verse, but. 2:02:22.480 --> 2:02:23.560 I let him lead it. 2:02:26.520 --> 2:02:29.000 Do not you had the best verse on Bad TV. 2:02:29.160 --> 2:02:30.800 I had the best verse. In my opinion. This is 2:02:30.840 --> 2:02:32.840 what opinions always been. 2:02:33.200 --> 2:02:33.640 Opinions. 2:02:33.720 --> 2:02:35.640 Right, you're gonna have it. So you think Nature had 2:02:35.680 --> 2:02:38.800 that best verse. I'm I'm walcome to you saying your 2:02:38.840 --> 2:02:43.520 body pun. I ain't saying body nobody. I don't look 2:02:43.560 --> 2:02:46.040 at records like body good verses on that record. 2:02:46.520 --> 2:02:48.800 I'm good at as a great record. I look at 2:02:48.800 --> 2:02:50.720 it as a great record. But twenty years later, I'm 2:02:50.760 --> 2:02:51.160 probably the. 2:02:51.160 --> 2:02:53.400 Only artist that's on that record that's still performing that 2:02:53.560 --> 2:02:55.480 record besides Jada and Styles. 2:02:55.920 --> 2:02:57.200 That's it. I think. 2:02:57.480 --> 2:03:01.680 I think Cam moved On is not alive. I think 2:03:01.840 --> 2:03:06.560 Nature is not active, and I think I mean, that's 2:03:06.600 --> 2:03:10.000 my brother. But listen how I broke that down. I'm 2:03:10.000 --> 2:03:12.320 the only artist that's on that record that's still quietly 2:03:12.400 --> 2:03:14.280 performing it besides the Locks. 2:03:15.160 --> 2:03:18.200 I think Cam moved on because Camra is on that. 2:03:18.280 --> 2:03:22.400 Record, Big Pun is passed away, right, Nate is not 2:03:22.480 --> 2:03:25.200 as active as all the other people that's on that record. 2:03:25.880 --> 2:03:28.120 And then so who, so who you have the best verse? 2:03:28.360 --> 2:03:30.800 Well, that's great that you did it, like you look, 2:03:32.240 --> 2:03:35.080 retrop I was the only guy who. 2:03:37.920 --> 2:03:38.480 Who is here? 2:03:38.920 --> 2:03:43.640 Sometimes listen, listen, see I learned from CNN. See I 2:03:44.200 --> 2:03:46.520 had an album prior to n R E. And that 2:03:46.680 --> 2:03:51.440 album was the super lyric Who's most lyric? All that 2:03:51.880 --> 2:03:54.839 that that ship that niggas wanted. But then I realized 2:03:54.880 --> 2:03:56.920 when I got with a guy, he had a little 2:03:57.160 --> 2:04:02.400 chain on like this had a joker and I looked. 2:04:02.200 --> 2:04:06.000 At it and he said to me, nobody listens to me. 2:04:06.280 --> 2:04:10.680 Who said that his name is for Real Williams saying, 2:04:10.800 --> 2:04:12.640 he said to me, nobody listens to me. 2:04:13.720 --> 2:04:15.240 And his ship was like this. It was very it 2:04:15.320 --> 2:04:18.240 was it was it was very like it's uncomfortable. 2:04:18.480 --> 2:04:22.680 You know, we was in the baggy soup aram cross 2:04:22.760 --> 2:04:28.040 color and ship like that, but you know it was 2:04:28.120 --> 2:04:32.840 like it was cross colored after that face and that he. 2:04:32.920 --> 2:04:34.120 Was the only produce of that. 2:04:34.280 --> 2:04:36.520 He said to me, he said, nobody listens to me. 2:04:36.920 --> 2:04:38.800 And for some reason, I had the number one record 2:04:38.840 --> 2:04:41.360 in R E was the number one record in New 2:04:41.440 --> 2:04:43.720 York at that time. I didn't have to listen to 2:04:43.840 --> 2:04:46.040 this guy. He said, I'm gonna bring it to a 2:04:46.160 --> 2:04:50.560 world that nobody else is gonna go. And I did that, 2:04:50.840 --> 2:04:53.840 and this guy comes out to be for Ral Williams. 2:04:55.520 --> 2:04:58.400 A lot of people a lot of people you you can, 2:04:58.520 --> 2:05:00.760 you can, you can whatever you want. A lot of 2:05:00.800 --> 2:05:04.640 people say the reason why the world knows Pharrell. 2:05:04.920 --> 2:05:07.040 Is because of that Super Dug record. Can you say 2:05:07.080 --> 2:05:13.520 that as a producer, I love Super Dug? Answer? But 2:05:13.720 --> 2:05:16.960 was that like the first record that people recognized for 2:05:17.560 --> 2:05:19.160 was that? I don't mind. Was it. 2:05:21.880 --> 2:05:25.240 The proction sound on the Super Dug because they put 2:05:25.280 --> 2:05:25.960 the chalice on the. 2:05:25.920 --> 2:05:30.720 Whole No way, we all thought that, no way, the 2:05:30.840 --> 2:05:31.920 horse wasn't around. 2:05:31.960 --> 2:05:34.560 But with him, with him him on top of the 2:05:34.600 --> 2:05:37.640 singing up, it was that no one seen that sound 2:05:37.760 --> 2:05:38.720 was definitely different. 2:05:38.880 --> 2:05:41.760 Now the sound no this I'm gonna tell you coming 2:05:41.800 --> 2:05:43.240 from Miami and DJ from Miami. 2:05:43.400 --> 2:05:47.120 The sound the difference was is it had the beat 2:05:47.240 --> 2:05:50.360 that the South could relate. How long were you DJing 2:05:50.400 --> 2:05:54.400 in Miami? I mean I started my company in ninety 2:05:54.480 --> 2:05:55.800 three and I was DJing. 2:05:57.040 --> 2:05:58.080 I used to do that. 2:05:58.200 --> 2:06:00.560 Wasn't how can I get down convention? The only way 2:06:00.560 --> 2:06:01.200 I could meet people. 2:06:01.400 --> 2:06:02.800 I used to come down here. I used to go 2:06:02.920 --> 2:06:08.000 to the club on Fifth in the liquid No no, no, no, no, 2:06:08.080 --> 2:06:11.160 no no no. I did his first showing solo show 2:06:11.200 --> 2:06:11.600 in Miami. 2:06:11.960 --> 2:06:13.120 He going before that. 2:06:15.280 --> 2:06:18.000 I mean that might be before my time. I'm forty 2:06:18.000 --> 2:06:20.120 two years old. Just why I used to come down here? 2:06:21.160 --> 2:06:22.400 Man? What years? 2:06:22.480 --> 2:06:22.560 Now? 2:06:23.000 --> 2:06:23.400 What years? 2:06:24.000 --> 2:06:27.840 It was me, DJ Apps and DJ Khalid. That's that's 2:06:27.880 --> 2:06:29.720 the like I used to come. 2:06:29.640 --> 2:06:36.320 To Miami in ninety one, ninety two, ninety three, Collins 2:06:36.360 --> 2:06:38.240 Avenue was a ghost town. 2:06:38.320 --> 2:06:42.080 Yeah you couldn't. Yeah, you how it was irrelevant in 2:06:42.160 --> 2:06:42.480 the beach. 2:06:42.640 --> 2:06:44.920 Forget that part I'm talking about. It was a ghost 2:06:44.960 --> 2:06:45.960 town for human beings. 2:06:46.280 --> 2:06:51.000 Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah it was. The beach was 2:06:51.680 --> 2:06:53.480 padded radio. That's what I did. 2:06:53.600 --> 2:06:55.000 Would break records down here. 2:06:55.000 --> 2:06:57.080 I did pirate radio and then I got I did 2:06:57.120 --> 2:07:05.240 the mix younger than me and but that's my whie. 2:07:05.360 --> 2:07:07.520 They used to break records down here. Man, this is 2:07:07.720 --> 2:07:12.880 this is on the guy, Like, what what's what I did? Named? Man? Yeah, 2:07:13.080 --> 2:07:17.240 of course I know. Man, my cousin kick that out 2:07:17.280 --> 2:07:24.960 of Come on, man, you can't know. He likes to 2:07:24.960 --> 2:07:26.600 come out all the time. Man, he likes to still 2:07:26.640 --> 2:07:29.360 wants to go come down here. He's lovely down here. 2:07:29.400 --> 2:07:30.680 But he's a r new guy. 2:07:31.080 --> 2:07:34.160 You got no prophy to say. Ask anybody. They're gonna 2:07:34.200 --> 2:07:35.520 tell you that that's what I was doing. 2:07:35.600 --> 2:07:38.280 I like to ask anybody like, I know my mann 2:07:38.440 --> 2:07:39.120 is shot. 2:07:39.280 --> 2:07:41.200 I feel that, I feel that the indergy is so great. 2:07:42.560 --> 2:07:45.880 I know my man turns like ask anybody about me 2:07:45.960 --> 2:07:49.080 and that studio. I lays it down. That's anybody that's 2:07:49.160 --> 2:07:51.640 the best of the best, the best. 2:07:51.840 --> 2:07:54.160 That's how you get best. He don't talk like that, 2:07:54.320 --> 2:07:57.919 but I'm talking for him. Yo, you just said ask anybody. 2:07:58.400 --> 2:07:59.320 I know how you feel. 2:08:01.120 --> 2:08:03.480 But when they let me ask you something, I'm sorry. 2:08:03.520 --> 2:08:08.480 Stuff when they talk about that top five producer all 2:08:08.520 --> 2:08:12.200 the time, and when sometimes they leave you off that list. 2:08:12.240 --> 2:08:12.880 They just asked you. 2:08:13.000 --> 2:08:15.840 Tune J just asked you last week, were you better 2:08:15.880 --> 2:08:20.440 than a hit man? Absolutely say the bad boy hit 2:08:20.520 --> 2:08:23.600 me as bad boy? Yeah, yeah, that ship. 2:08:24.040 --> 2:08:30.400 I mean, yeah, that's my man, but a man rapper 2:08:30.440 --> 2:08:30.720 as well. 2:08:30.920 --> 2:08:35.840 This answer the question. We need you to get that's 2:08:35.880 --> 2:08:42.960 the way you know. You don't believe. And I want 2:08:43.000 --> 2:08:46.360 to have you interview another artist that would be because. 2:08:48.440 --> 2:08:50.120 This is what I think about track mass personally. 2:08:50.240 --> 2:08:54.320 I think that before I feel like the Neptunes is 2:08:54.400 --> 2:08:57.320 like everybody knows. I feel like track Masters was the 2:08:57.480 --> 2:09:02.160 first like famous producer duo and hip hop. 2:09:02.840 --> 2:09:08.040 Like Terry Terry and Jammy j What was Jammy? You 2:09:08.160 --> 2:09:09.800 guys are that for hip hop? 2:09:10.200 --> 2:09:10.680 The first? 2:09:10.760 --> 2:09:12.240 That's Steve's market league. 2:09:12.640 --> 2:09:17.480 Steve took out ads and billboard for producers. I was 2:09:17.560 --> 2:09:22.520 buying full pages bro full page ads and bill Boy. 2:09:24.280 --> 2:09:28.000 You guys don't even know the type of psychlean you 2:09:28.120 --> 2:09:29.120 say being calm. 2:09:29.760 --> 2:09:31.640 No no, no, no, no, no. You can be as 2:09:31.720 --> 2:09:32.440 calm as you want. 2:09:32.520 --> 2:09:34.160 You don't see what we do. We put We put 2:09:34.480 --> 2:09:36.280 our faces on on things. 2:09:36.320 --> 2:09:39.560 Our canvas is right there in the wall to be gone. No, 2:09:39.840 --> 2:09:46.080 just to promote ourselves because of you, because we look 2:09:46.120 --> 2:09:47.920 at ourselves. And now was. 2:09:50.280 --> 2:09:53.480 Who was that first meeting like with Reebok when you said, 2:09:54.000 --> 2:09:56.360 I want you know what it is. 2:09:56.400 --> 2:09:57.120 I ain't gonna lie to you. 2:09:58.040 --> 2:09:58.400 How did you. 2:10:00.040 --> 2:10:03.000 I can talk for so long about so much things, 2:10:03.680 --> 2:10:05.600 then it won't even make any sense. 2:10:05.640 --> 2:10:06.680 It will be out of contact. 2:10:06.680 --> 2:10:08.600 You can't nothing about fall. 2:10:10.320 --> 2:10:13.320 I can have Kobe Bryant and Lebron James to do 2:10:13.400 --> 2:10:16.480 a separate sports version of this, still turning the same thing, 2:10:16.600 --> 2:10:18.920 jay Z. And that's well saying about me. I do 2:10:19.120 --> 2:10:25.400 my thing to the maximum on all levels. That's my problem. 2:10:26.200 --> 2:10:28.880 When I get involved, I go all out, whether it 2:10:28.920 --> 2:10:32.960 be producers, whether it be artists, whether it be athletes. 2:10:34.720 --> 2:10:38.480 I doesn't know one thing. All the funk out that's 2:10:38.560 --> 2:10:39.080 my problem. 2:10:39.840 --> 2:10:49.120 That's queens, that's out by the first person really like. 2:10:49.640 --> 2:10:51.360 The nigga who taught me the business was a guy 2:10:51.480 --> 2:10:52.160 named no Face. 2:10:53.800 --> 2:10:57.200 Mark Ski. Yeah, he had He had a group called 2:10:57.280 --> 2:11:03.160 b w P Business Problem. Mark Ski took me to 2:11:04.760 --> 2:11:05.600 no He took me to. 2:11:08.160 --> 2:11:11.520 Before I liberated after after he bitch is flipping on 2:11:11.880 --> 2:11:15.440 like and he took me down to the ship in Atlanta. 2:11:16.280 --> 2:11:19.040 Mark Ski, he was so talented, so so smart. 2:11:19.720 --> 2:11:22.880 He used to tell me how talented shot G was Flavor, 2:11:22.960 --> 2:11:24.080 Flavor could play the piano. 2:11:24.320 --> 2:11:27.480 It was like he would just like get me there. 2:11:27.520 --> 2:11:29.200 And I was still living at home with my parents, 2:11:31.400 --> 2:11:33.200 and I just was. I was just ready. 2:11:33.840 --> 2:11:36.600 And the one thing he always made me realize I 2:11:36.680 --> 2:11:39.000 had to know was if you knew an artist, what 2:11:39.160 --> 2:11:41.480 label were they on. If I ever asked you an 2:11:41.560 --> 2:11:43.840 artist and you don't know label Lane, I'll never return 2:11:43.920 --> 2:11:46.760 your phone call. So you guys be an artists. I 2:11:46.760 --> 2:11:50.400 have to know label laboring, who produced the song. That's 2:11:50.480 --> 2:11:55.000 why I'm so fucking hip hop fluid, because I just 2:11:55.160 --> 2:11:58.280 know everything. I just I spent the time if I 2:11:58.320 --> 2:12:00.960 didn't know it. It feels like if I don't know 2:12:01.200 --> 2:12:02.160 the facts. 2:12:01.960 --> 2:12:04.040 Around something, you don't think that's an error thing. Though 2:12:05.240 --> 2:12:08.880 maybe I think the error of shots. 2:12:09.160 --> 2:12:13.040 We all read the credits, shot the credits, no more, 2:12:13.720 --> 2:12:20.640 we still need to know. No, Jesus, you got my life. 2:12:21.040 --> 2:12:24.960 I don't know why we think she she was tired. 2:12:24.960 --> 2:12:30.360 I knew she was tired. He brought you up. Listen 2:12:33.600 --> 2:12:36.120 while we're hitting her. Yes, there's a lot of things 2:12:36.160 --> 2:12:40.720 that you're talking about. Yes, why didn't he shine baked 2:12:42.240 --> 2:12:42.920 in the business? 2:12:43.880 --> 2:12:47.360 I mean, I mean, yeah, never mind that he got 2:12:47.840 --> 2:12:49.879 went in and aforded. 2:12:50.040 --> 2:12:56.040 But he I thought everybody loved him, but no one everybody, 2:12:56.760 --> 2:12:57.440 nobody loves. 2:12:57.320 --> 2:12:58.120 This is a trick question. 2:12:58.440 --> 2:13:01.240 No, I swear the fact that shot sounded like Big, 2:13:02.760 --> 2:13:04.760 but he has a DJ even though. 2:13:07.480 --> 2:13:11.240 The Very Team, which was a dope record, then he 2:13:11.320 --> 2:13:13.400 had the other record, right, But I think that. 2:13:13.640 --> 2:13:17.040 It was always like his achilles heel, that he's that 2:13:17.200 --> 2:13:19.560 they introduced him as sounding. 2:13:19.320 --> 2:13:21.440 Like Big and he's on Bad Boy. Had he not 2:13:21.560 --> 2:13:22.480 come out on Bad b. 2:13:25.120 --> 2:13:28.520 It was you. But but if people say he goes 2:13:28.520 --> 2:13:31.400 the next Big and the frustrating you put out. Meggas 2:13:31.440 --> 2:13:32.720 are like, I love this ship. 2:13:33.240 --> 2:13:33.480 Dope. 2:13:34.400 --> 2:13:37.760 I think let me, let me, let me just interject 2:13:37.840 --> 2:13:40.960 for one second. I think that Sean would have actually 2:13:41.080 --> 2:13:44.839 been like like, you're damn. 2:13:46.280 --> 2:13:47.120 He was the next one. 2:13:47.280 --> 2:13:49.800 Look, I think the next one when he came home. 2:13:50.040 --> 2:13:50.760 Is that what he's saying? 2:13:51.000 --> 2:13:54.920 When he came home, he could have been like super huge. 2:13:55.360 --> 2:13:58.920 But what happened was Colin rushed a verse. Remember when 2:13:58.960 --> 2:14:01.680 Sean came home, the k put him on the record. 2:14:02.960 --> 2:14:06.320 Nobody here, nobody knows what you're tongu No, no, no, listen, listen, listen. 2:14:07.160 --> 2:14:10.080 What happened was, oh yeah, I remember, I remember, I remember. 2:14:10.080 --> 2:14:13.760 What happened was he came out high cort case. Yeah, 2:14:13.800 --> 2:14:15.320 he caught the listen. Listen, listen, listen. 2:14:15.400 --> 2:14:15.640 No, no, no. 2:14:15.880 --> 2:14:17.880 And it was a bad verse. It was really a 2:14:18.320 --> 2:14:18.960 quarter case. 2:14:19.320 --> 2:14:20.560 He he went away. 2:14:20.720 --> 2:14:22.680 His anticipatient home. 2:14:23.000 --> 2:14:25.960 Was like Phil Knight. It was his first verse was terrible. 2:14:26.320 --> 2:14:28.640 No I did that didn't feeling. 2:14:28.680 --> 2:14:34.240 This wasn't he wasn't. 2:14:36.240 --> 2:14:38.240 Said he used good stout, good stout. 2:14:38.560 --> 2:14:39.360 You said he rushed it. 2:14:39.560 --> 2:14:41.960 No, but the worse it through everybody or it was 2:14:42.040 --> 2:14:44.160 his voice tempo wasn't as the. 2:14:44.240 --> 2:14:45.240 Same it was off. 2:14:45.360 --> 2:14:48.120 It was it was a shine is dope, But because. 2:14:47.760 --> 2:14:50.480 I rushed it, you could tell what I mean? No, no, 2:14:50.600 --> 2:14:52.720 dispet the colay all upesn't make any. 2:14:52.560 --> 2:14:54.560 Sense what you're saying. No, No, you don't like him 2:14:54.560 --> 2:14:56.240 when he sounded like Big, but then when he came 2:14:56.280 --> 2:14:57.600 back on some new voice. 2:14:57.800 --> 2:15:00.520 Listen saying this is what's listen. 2:15:00.640 --> 2:15:01.800 Listen, I'm gonna be honest with you. 2:15:02.240 --> 2:15:05.320 If Sean would have came home with Big, same voice 2:15:05.600 --> 2:15:08.120 as he had prior to that, if he would have 2:15:08.240 --> 2:15:10.880 came home with that voice, he would have been a 2:15:10.960 --> 2:15:11.520 new tupac. 2:15:11.760 --> 2:15:13.520 Nah, don't I think you're wrong? He would have been 2:15:13.600 --> 2:15:14.840 somewhere around that range. 2:15:14.920 --> 2:15:16.920 No, No, you know I'm gonna trut. I'm a corrected. 2:15:17.040 --> 2:15:17.320 Okay. 2:15:17.680 --> 2:15:19.280 What you're saying is is that it's not. 2:15:19.360 --> 2:15:21.840 That he sounded dope and he sounded like Big and 2:15:21.920 --> 2:15:23.640 then we don't accept him again. 2:15:24.600 --> 2:15:27.000 Well, I'm trying to get to it this. No, no, no, 2:15:27.680 --> 2:15:30.840 what happened to him? People liked his music. He did 2:15:31.000 --> 2:15:33.560 nothing wrong, he just didn't didn't seem to do it. 2:15:33.600 --> 2:15:33.800 Nothing. 2:15:33.840 --> 2:15:36.160 No, when he came home he had he had to 2:15:36.240 --> 2:15:40.120 be deported. It you gotta I can tell you this 2:15:40.240 --> 2:15:44.000 friendly as being a part of a legendary. 2:15:43.640 --> 2:15:47.480 Who called Copona and Oriega. Component in Oriega has five 2:15:47.640 --> 2:15:52.480 hundred thousand every year in the Europe. Every year. All 2:15:52.520 --> 2:15:54.320 we gotta do is spend thirty days in the year. 2:15:55.480 --> 2:15:59.080 But at some point in certain parts of Europe it's terrible. 2:15:59.800 --> 2:16:04.280 It's freezing like ship. So you would go there and 2:16:04.360 --> 2:16:06.120 you would get how do you smoke me? And your 2:16:06.160 --> 2:16:06.880 eyes are right? 2:16:07.520 --> 2:16:12.920 Because because I'm your friends, I wanted. 2:16:11.280 --> 2:16:13.080 To be your friend for so long. I just want 2:16:13.120 --> 2:16:15.840 to keep my life together because I just want to 2:16:15.880 --> 2:16:17.840 give more money. I just want and I feel like 2:16:18.200 --> 2:16:20.000 I feel like I've reached that flat till now. 2:16:20.040 --> 2:16:23.080 I gotta I gotta be like you gotta help me 2:16:23.160 --> 2:16:26.040 in some way, take more safe shape for more president somewhere. 2:16:26.360 --> 2:16:28.800 I need to start wearing white suits at some point, 2:16:28.880 --> 2:16:31.040 you know, I need to do like. 2:16:31.360 --> 2:16:33.680 You gotta give me raped class. You gotta give me 2:16:33.840 --> 2:16:35.160 somewhere somewhere I could. 2:16:35.879 --> 2:16:38.840 I know who else you said something, Jim Jones. Jim 2:16:38.959 --> 2:16:40.120 Jones is a great producer. 2:16:41.280 --> 2:16:45.320 If Jim Jones had an artist in different music in 2:16:45.400 --> 2:16:47.480 front of him, I'd have to put the artists in the. 2:16:47.520 --> 2:16:50.640 Music to look how many artists introduced Max B. 2:16:52.040 --> 2:16:54.959 Jim Jones is tough. Jim Jones, I just don't get 2:16:54.959 --> 2:17:00.000 along with him. It always happens like that. I don't 2:17:00.120 --> 2:17:02.960 care about that part, and I go through that part like, uh, 2:17:04.080 --> 2:17:08.720 first of all, for me, I know what. 2:17:11.200 --> 2:17:15.359 Fifty's talented? Oh god, is he talented? He's not talented 2:17:15.520 --> 2:17:20.240 rapper writer, he's talented. Jim Jones is talented. 2:17:20.080 --> 2:17:23.080 Like the just meaning like Na's and jay z are 2:17:23.560 --> 2:17:25.840 the problem with rap music was it mean if you 2:17:25.959 --> 2:17:29.760 were if you weren't a talented rapper, then everybody else 2:17:29.920 --> 2:17:32.240 was like fake versions of them. And the truth of 2:17:32.280 --> 2:17:34.600 the matter is there's so much talent that the art 2:17:34.680 --> 2:17:38.080 for me staring and like with jay Z and Nas 2:17:38.160 --> 2:17:49.240 do specifically are words. Fifty is Vince McMahon. He's Vince McMahon. 2:17:49.840 --> 2:17:55.480 Vince McMahon is the best. Vince McMahon is so good 2:17:56.640 --> 2:18:00.600 that when he actually copied and tried to make the NFL, 2:18:02.080 --> 2:18:03.720 if you look at the camera angles that. 2:18:03.720 --> 2:18:06.800 They copped that they did, that's what the NFL uses now, 2:18:09.360 --> 2:18:11.760 vis vic Man overhead? Can the overhead? 2:18:11.800 --> 2:18:15.200 Can Victor Man invented that we were watching the NFL 2:18:15.280 --> 2:18:17.880 every day when he started that bullshit football league that 2:18:17.959 --> 2:18:21.720 no one watched. It was terrible, but he produced the 2:18:21.800 --> 2:18:26.400 shit out of an idea. That's fifty cent. Fifty cent 2:18:26.560 --> 2:18:32.640 is ridiculously talented at a thing. Jim Jones is talented 2:18:32.680 --> 2:18:33.360 at a thing. 2:18:34.000 --> 2:18:38.360 When you put Jim Jones nas fifty those guys together, 2:18:39.240 --> 2:18:42.520 as you talk about culture, if they were to make 2:18:42.560 --> 2:18:46.640 a product, it would be Disney. These guys are great. 2:18:48.160 --> 2:18:51.080 It's just that everybody's so separated that these things don't 2:18:51.120 --> 2:18:55.480 come together. You don't put the writer, the animator, the storyteller, 2:18:55.840 --> 2:18:58.240 anything together, but if you ever put him. 2:18:58.160 --> 2:18:59.879 Together, so it's like a lack of team. 2:19:00.440 --> 2:19:04.000 How the fuck you think Batman happened? That's not one guy. 2:19:04.640 --> 2:19:05.360 Just show this guy. 2:19:05.920 --> 2:19:09.280 That's five guys together saying this guy, listen, this house 2:19:09.680 --> 2:19:12.280 come from city and a fucking thing up in the sky. 2:19:13.440 --> 2:19:17.119 That took five guys, but it rapped me in. Those 2:19:17.200 --> 2:19:19.959 five guys can't talk to each other because one guy 2:19:20.040 --> 2:19:21.680 is making money doing this, that and that, so you 2:19:21.720 --> 2:19:26.320 don't funk each other. That's fucked up. That's right. I'm 2:19:26.360 --> 2:19:32.039 living this speeches on dream chaps in my life. That's listen. 2:19:32.080 --> 2:19:41.280 I'm visualizing what he's saying, I'm good. I gotta sleep 2:19:41.360 --> 2:19:43.680 that night. I gotta deal with myself. 2:19:45.240 --> 2:19:46.480 Listen, Bron, what about pray? 2:19:46.560 --> 2:19:49.000 How about me? Pray for me? I gotta go to sleep. 2:19:49.040 --> 2:19:52.320 And I know this ain't way too smart like and 2:19:52.440 --> 2:19:57.040 we ate d D that ship you just said, like 2:19:57.280 --> 2:19:58.680 and you gotta sleep with yourself? 2:19:58.760 --> 2:20:01.840 You way too smart and with himself. 2:20:01.879 --> 2:20:04.320 No, I can't I get why he's rich and everything, 2:20:04.440 --> 2:20:06.360 but that they could figure out life. 2:20:06.400 --> 2:20:08.120 The boy happened like. 2:20:10.959 --> 2:20:15.120 Tomorrow was gonna have yo, I know, just stupid like 2:20:15.320 --> 2:20:17.800 like like like you know, what's the ship conspiracy? 2:20:18.280 --> 2:20:20.640 The ship with tom here's another question? He going like 2:20:20.720 --> 2:20:30.120 that Rock and then Rock kN ray Kawan wh is 2:20:30.200 --> 2:20:33.320 ray Kwan said, he's a great I think one of 2:20:33.360 --> 2:20:35.840 the best lyrious, one of the best lyricists. All be 2:20:35.920 --> 2:20:38.039 honest with you. He goes down. He's there. 2:20:38.200 --> 2:20:40.199 I think it's one of them past Beanie. 2:20:42.520 --> 2:20:47.000 I ain't think that far, but okay, Jada kiss past that. 2:20:48.480 --> 2:20:50.280 He's past that in that group. 2:20:52.520 --> 2:20:57.840 Okay, what we say, No, it's just not disrespectful. If 2:20:57.879 --> 2:21:00.840 you lost every rap about na, like yeah, that's cool. 2:21:02.240 --> 2:21:05.280 Then who they are there? The elite lead We'll start 2:21:05.320 --> 2:21:11.160 coming off of that thing. Who's the guy, who's the one? Kanye? 2:21:11.360 --> 2:21:14.440 And let me this is why it's gonna get very 2:21:14.480 --> 2:21:19.600 controversy right now. Lyrics wise, listen, don't wanna stop. 2:21:20.120 --> 2:21:21.119 We're talking about lyrics. 2:21:22.480 --> 2:21:23.200 It's a different thing. 2:21:23.600 --> 2:21:24.640 Did you say it started? 2:21:25.040 --> 2:21:29.560 Because the thing that is starting of everything starting and starting? 2:21:30.160 --> 2:21:32.680 Okay, okay, all right, So now I need to understand 2:21:32.680 --> 2:21:33.119 your questions. 2:21:33.160 --> 2:21:38.439 So you're saying you understands of all times lyrics again, lyrics. 2:21:38.280 --> 2:21:41.120 I don't watch this. Let's move on. No, we started, 2:21:42.600 --> 2:21:48.240 it's not doing. It's not good for I gotta be careful, Yeah, 2:21:48.840 --> 2:21:51.920 be careful. No, I'm gonna be strenk Champs. You guys 2:21:52.000 --> 2:21:52.800 gotta get other people. 2:21:54.120 --> 2:21:57.640 But then they need to come and defend another thing 2:21:57.680 --> 2:22:00.520 about it. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell 2:22:00.520 --> 2:22:04.240 you something. I am not politically working at all, though 2:22:04.320 --> 2:22:08.320 nobody pay me. I always said one drink, Champs, and 2:22:08.400 --> 2:22:11.600 you could record this I am. I said that for 2:22:13.080 --> 2:22:17.560 young recorded here's the crazy ship for young people. Because 2:22:17.840 --> 2:22:20.240 we had first started with CBS, Big up CBS. 2:22:20.320 --> 2:22:22.160 We have no problem with. 2:22:22.160 --> 2:22:23.320 Their no longer CBS. 2:22:23.400 --> 2:22:26.920 We are no longer as CBS, but they are longer 2:22:27.000 --> 2:22:31.400 CBS were longer CBS, and we drink champs. Yeah, but 2:22:31.640 --> 2:22:32.600 let me just say something. 2:22:32.840 --> 2:22:34.519 Well it sounds confusing, but go ahead. 2:22:35.920 --> 2:22:36.360 In a second. 2:22:37.840 --> 2:22:40.000 They gave us we're multiple deals. 2:22:41.240 --> 2:22:53.960 We got our lives the whole four style through. Ok So, look, 2:22:54.560 --> 2:22:58.480 so the thing about it, you got that Johnny Blue 2:22:58.520 --> 2:23:03.080 though I never but you know what, and I'm supposed 2:23:03.080 --> 2:23:06.119 to get shout of that because you took Johnny Blue 2:23:06.160 --> 2:23:08.600 is so smooth. I'm in, I'm not here, I'm in. 2:23:08.920 --> 2:23:12.000 I'm sorry. Powerfult be very happy, said Diagio. Brand. 2:23:13.600 --> 2:23:14.720 He's distributed everything. 2:23:16.800 --> 2:23:21.720 Why would he he'd be happy. It's a family brand. Guys, listen, 2:23:23.840 --> 2:23:27.560 how far you want to go to this conversation. This 2:23:27.720 --> 2:23:29.640 is what we do at dream Chat and listen, let 2:23:29.720 --> 2:23:32.840 me tell you something. That is that an auto take 2:23:32.879 --> 2:23:35.960 that I feel like you went away from you were saying, 2:23:35.959 --> 2:23:38.640 it's an audible Let me tell you something. What does 2:23:38.680 --> 2:23:43.439 that mean that? Listen? Change? I started noticing class. 2:23:44.800 --> 2:23:45.200 Pull out. 2:23:45.520 --> 2:23:49.480 No, No, that's okay, all sudden starts to be in Spanish, 2:23:52.600 --> 2:24:00.640 don't don't but stout like you've been. 2:24:00.560 --> 2:24:05.560 The guy to sit at because because let me just 2:24:06.400 --> 2:24:06.760 let me just. 2:24:06.800 --> 2:24:07.280 Big you up. 2:24:07.320 --> 2:24:11.039 For one second. Okay, please please, can let me get 2:24:11.080 --> 2:24:15.360 this for men? Like? The thing is this is just 2:24:15.480 --> 2:24:17.960 taking the I'll take a shot of that with you 2:24:18.040 --> 2:24:23.480 should take you? Are you drinking? I think I think 2:24:23.520 --> 2:24:26.040 it's time. I think it's not. I'll take a shot. Okay, 2:24:26.120 --> 2:24:29.360 I mean I'm talking about that. I'll do it. I 2:24:29.400 --> 2:24:33.920 don't I don't want you was the guys listen, I 2:24:34.040 --> 2:24:37.520 have to please. I need everybody to sit back and relax. 2:24:37.840 --> 2:24:41.880 I don't see. And the thing about style is no stout. 2:24:41.920 --> 2:24:42.800 I gotta big you up. 2:24:43.959 --> 2:24:48.240 Is you recognize hip hop was was? We were the 2:24:48.400 --> 2:24:52.760 new rock and rolls in my opinion? Can you let 2:24:52.840 --> 2:24:53.360 me big you up? 2:24:53.640 --> 2:24:55.520 Sorry, sir, I felt like you. 2:24:55.720 --> 2:24:58.160 Knew hip hop was the new rocking roll. 2:24:59.520 --> 2:25:02.400 And you got behind the two biggest. 2:25:03.680 --> 2:25:09.480 You got behind guns and roses. He wasn't involved with 2:25:09.560 --> 2:25:12.440 guns and roses. I'm giving an analogy. 2:25:12.680 --> 2:25:20.800 Analogy, this analogy. That's what people think that much. You 2:25:20.920 --> 2:25:23.439 got behind the biggest. 2:25:25.200 --> 2:25:26.240 People that we had. 2:25:26.400 --> 2:25:31.160 You had access to jay Z, you had access to nons, 2:25:32.000 --> 2:25:34.720 and you got behind them and you pushed them in every. 2:25:35.920 --> 2:25:40.680 Sure ever knew short what shout am I taking forgot? 2:25:40.720 --> 2:25:46.160 It's a Johnny Blue. We just said, thank shutting me down. 2:25:46.280 --> 2:25:49.720 You can tell, you can tell, right, you tell, I 2:25:49.840 --> 2:25:51.840 wasspect the ship. I just wanted to get money with 2:25:51.920 --> 2:25:54.560 you four years ago. This was that is not working 2:25:54.600 --> 2:25:58.039 out for me. It's not working out. That's right, got smoother, 2:25:58.280 --> 2:25:59.920 that's right. Yeah, she comes. 2:26:00.360 --> 2:26:04.119 I'm drinking because when Johnny you want to give us everybody. 2:26:03.840 --> 2:26:06.800 Come on, you should just take this around. Guys have 2:26:06.920 --> 2:26:08.520 a great time. They're gonna be honest. 2:26:09.480 --> 2:26:11.640 It's a great Johnny Blue. I love you guys. 2:26:13.560 --> 2:26:17.720 It's very struggling than I thought it was. It's very slid. 2:26:18.200 --> 2:26:21.280 I think Johnny Blue should be part of this. Guys, 2:26:22.160 --> 2:26:24.000 tell PF just having it. It's no big deal. 2:26:24.120 --> 2:26:27.920 No tell us you want to on the bill. 2:26:28.040 --> 2:26:31.960 Let's do what you got. The guys will rock. You 2:26:32.120 --> 2:26:41.600 gotta coo me only obligators. 2:26:43.200 --> 2:26:44.640 What we do have? 2:26:44.800 --> 2:26:47.200 Gratis killer you all? What is it to kill you? 2:26:47.640 --> 2:26:50.920 A lot of you guys? Are you guys have tacos? Yeah? 2:26:50.959 --> 2:26:52.840 We should band. 2:26:55.480 --> 2:26:58.199 We could tell you've been in rap game since kidding 2:26:58.320 --> 2:26:59.880 play because you are drinking. 2:27:00.040 --> 2:27:03.440 I think that's incredible, man, I think that's incredible. What 2:27:03.760 --> 2:27:07.199 did I do my job when I think that's amazing 2:27:07.320 --> 2:27:11.680 is that I look young, by the way, forty seven. 2:27:12.240 --> 2:27:15.680 Goddamn I've been doing all my life. Oh no, it's not. 2:27:15.760 --> 2:27:17.680 I've been doing it since I was twenty one years old. 2:27:18.080 --> 2:27:21.720 Goddamn stuff. All I've done is watch ship. All I've 2:27:21.720 --> 2:27:23.840 do is watch artists go up and watch them fall 2:27:23.879 --> 2:27:26.240 off and watch them go up. Watch So that's twenty 2:27:26.280 --> 2:27:29.880 one years old. That's how I feed my family. I 2:27:29.959 --> 2:27:31.200 don't have no like. 2:27:31.280 --> 2:27:31.840 This is what I do. 2:27:32.959 --> 2:27:37.880 I'm like, talk to me. I'm not lying. I'm not 2:27:38.000 --> 2:27:41.360 making anything up. You lived and breathed it, every ounce 2:27:41.400 --> 2:27:42.440 of it, and I won't stop. 2:27:42.879 --> 2:27:45.080 And as soon as it starts to feel like I'm like, 2:27:46.240 --> 2:27:49.199 like I don't understand what's going on or some bullshit, 2:27:49.360 --> 2:27:51.360 I won't do it no more. I don't want I'm 2:27:51.400 --> 2:27:54.560 not corny. I'm not doing anything corny. I'm not gonna 2:27:54.560 --> 2:27:57.920 be last nigging the club doing dumb ship. 2:27:58.200 --> 2:28:02.480 Look at you, that's what that's actually we could make that. 2:28:02.560 --> 2:28:05.440 I mean, ever gave an artist like information? 2:28:06.959 --> 2:28:10.320 I'm not gonna lie. That's awesome. You know I'm great. 2:28:11.240 --> 2:28:13.760 Have you ever gave artists like this information and you 2:28:13.920 --> 2:28:20.920 told him I'm good? 2:28:22.680 --> 2:28:26.040 I say my album bitch backwards say I do. 2:28:26.200 --> 2:28:30.160 I actually was not gonna nobody you ever ever gave 2:28:30.240 --> 2:28:33.280 some artists information and then it wasn't. 2:28:33.320 --> 2:28:37.480 It wasn't the thing like and you're wrong, you were wrong. 2:28:38.280 --> 2:28:41.560 I'm gonna take fifty says its all the time. Fifty 2:28:41.640 --> 2:28:42.480 says it. Fifty. 2:28:47.560 --> 2:28:53.520 I said to him he shouldn't sign to uh Eminem's label. 2:28:54.720 --> 2:28:57.040 You said he shouldn't signed to end what he was 2:28:57.120 --> 2:28:57.640 saying there. 2:28:57.959 --> 2:29:00.120 What I was saying was if he was saying in 2:29:00.200 --> 2:29:06.840 the death row, because it's what he was saying was 2:29:06.959 --> 2:29:13.240 so fucking crazy and truthful and honest and hard. I 2:29:13.360 --> 2:29:16.280 didn't want him to get confused as this like guy 2:29:16.879 --> 2:29:17.400 who could have. 2:29:17.400 --> 2:29:26.360 Been slightly comical because Eminem had detwe what you yeah, no, no, no, 2:29:26.560 --> 2:29:28.800 not a comical label, but just like a label that 2:29:29.080 --> 2:29:31.320 was great music. 2:29:32.560 --> 2:29:36.880 But because for some reason, I mean, I can't I 2:29:36.920 --> 2:29:38.320 don't think I can articulate it. 2:29:38.400 --> 2:29:41.240 But eve been a part of what they were doing 2:29:41.360 --> 2:29:46.480 that was like is this honest or is this shock value? 2:29:47.160 --> 2:29:50.480 And like, if Drake did it, it would be easy. 2:29:51.640 --> 2:29:57.120 And I was telling fifty, be easy, you're easy. 2:29:58.560 --> 2:30:01.080 But he couldn't have been that for shame fifty is 2:30:01.840 --> 2:30:08.760 one n he did. He did everything. He's a hard working. 2:30:08.959 --> 2:30:12.400 But where do y'all go on the Madison's Great Garden. 2:30:12.520 --> 2:30:15.480 We see the pictures we went where you know where 2:30:15.480 --> 2:30:16.000 we went wrong. 2:30:16.560 --> 2:30:18.880 We went wrong because I said that he didn't make 2:30:18.920 --> 2:30:22.640 a record a long time that was in and I 2:30:22.680 --> 2:30:24.520 say it on the radio station or something, and. 2:30:24.600 --> 2:30:28.640 He's seen it me like that, right, So he told 2:30:28.680 --> 2:30:29.879 it to you at the Nick game. 2:30:30.879 --> 2:30:41.640 And yeah, that's right. I can't walk in God's footsteps. 2:30:41.680 --> 2:30:44.400 I'm not afraid of nothing, no, no what to think 2:30:44.440 --> 2:30:47.000 about it. But I'm not afraid. I'm not is the 2:30:47.080 --> 2:30:50.280 truth of the matter is. It's not like I was 2:30:50.360 --> 2:30:52.640 surprised when Puffy showed up in. 2:30:52.680 --> 2:30:57.160 My office after hit me now, but he didn't show 2:30:57.240 --> 2:31:01.200 up before guys showed up. I wasn't surprised. I'm not 2:31:01.320 --> 2:31:03.480 surprised when to the game and I seen he was 2:31:03.520 --> 2:31:06.680 with me when I see I'm not afraid. He's I'm 2:31:06.720 --> 2:31:11.560 not afraid of things, but I'm not. I'm not afraid 2:31:11.600 --> 2:31:14.480 of But this is actually different. This is doesn't make 2:31:14.520 --> 2:31:17.480 a difference. But when guys start talking at we're gonna 2:31:17.560 --> 2:31:22.320 kill you this that bullshoe No, you're just saying. 2:31:22.360 --> 2:31:26.840 That's how the business turns a problem into like the 2:31:26.959 --> 2:31:28.640 problem goes from this is a problem. 2:31:28.480 --> 2:31:30.879 To the real problems. We're gonna kill you. Well, we're 2:31:30.879 --> 2:31:39.880 gonna do this like Okay, great, sounds like a lot 2:31:39.920 --> 2:31:43.800 of people. It sounds like and then what it sounds 2:31:43.879 --> 2:31:47.640 like you? This is all nobody says that. 2:31:48.240 --> 2:31:51.600 I'm just saying. The underlying theme about beefing is what 2:31:51.879 --> 2:31:53.480 happens if you lose that? 2:31:54.760 --> 2:31:59.400 Are you gonna die? Is your all of a sudden, 2:31:59.400 --> 2:32:03.000 you guys under standing when I say one word, what 2:32:03.200 --> 2:32:04.520 the fuck did you think I was saying? 2:32:05.080 --> 2:32:05.960 That was a lot of words? 2:32:06.360 --> 2:32:15.160 Yeah, you think it got a little weird. 2:32:17.240 --> 2:32:17.360 War. 2:32:19.080 --> 2:32:22.040 It's a non stop, stop style. I'm in the business man. 2:32:22.120 --> 2:32:26.240 I'm doing this ship in a high lovel bro I'm 2:32:26.280 --> 2:32:28.080 not fucking around doing this ship for rain. 2:32:29.320 --> 2:32:33.879 I'm doing this ship at the hall level. I'm making millionaires. Yes, 2:32:33.959 --> 2:32:36.040 it's making a lot of money. I'm changing the way 2:32:36.600 --> 2:32:39.720 things happen. When you're in the front line, you gotta 2:32:39.760 --> 2:32:45.039 deal with front line things. You're CEO wartime piece, wartime CEO, 2:32:45.520 --> 2:32:49.440 peacetime CEO. I'm the CEO of war time in peacetime. 2:32:50.560 --> 2:32:52.000 This peacetime is cool. 2:32:52.920 --> 2:32:53.600 It's what time. 2:32:53.680 --> 2:32:56.920 You gotta deal with those type of things. You gotta 2:32:56.959 --> 2:32:59.960 be able to deal with that. And I love those guys. 2:33:00.560 --> 2:33:04.320 I respect those guys. I respect those guys. I respect 2:33:04.400 --> 2:33:07.520 those guys. If it was some bullshit I didn't respect that, 2:33:07.520 --> 2:33:13.440 I wouldn't care. I respect guys who I love what 2:33:13.640 --> 2:33:18.520 top dogs doing m hm, love it on his own rules. 2:33:19.000 --> 2:33:21.160 This is how we're doing this. We're gonna lose this. 2:33:22.720 --> 2:33:25.600 And you want how was it being the president in 2:33:25.720 --> 2:33:30.560 the school, because I can you woman describe how we 2:33:30.640 --> 2:33:31.440 looked at in the school. 2:33:34.200 --> 2:33:35.320 Was the first rap artist. 2:33:38.360 --> 2:33:41.640 Acadella was the first artist. You know, Akandela got running 2:33:41.640 --> 2:33:45.960 the other before Nons. I definitely did know. He's schooling 2:33:46.000 --> 2:33:46.360 to be right. 2:33:48.520 --> 2:33:53.640 Got the deal because because everybody got hooked on the 2:33:54.040 --> 2:33:58.800 re rate, that was the ship. 2:34:00.959 --> 2:34:08.240 Nobody even keep talking though everybody bought that. No rhymes, 2:34:10.200 --> 2:34:23.280 ah hooky things have a classic that's really digging deep. 2:34:30.360 --> 2:34:40.800 He was pulling bitches away. He's playing. Okay, how about this? 2:34:41.120 --> 2:34:43.879 Ally had Nas in the. 2:34:46.040 --> 2:34:49.840 One B position. Nas couldn't get a deal. Acannelly got 2:34:49.879 --> 2:34:52.480 other deals. It was like, yo, you know what put 2:34:52.520 --> 2:34:53.400 my nigga Nas on. 2:34:55.120 --> 2:34:55.320 Big. 2:34:56.959 --> 2:34:59.840 That's how fucked up things are. When our phone gets 2:35:00.080 --> 2:35:05.360 so big, the money gets involved, fucks everything up. I 2:35:05.520 --> 2:35:07.680 tell you, tell is my best friend. 2:35:08.879 --> 2:35:09.720 You go through talking. 2:35:10.959 --> 2:35:12.640 It's my best friend. You know why he's my best 2:35:12.680 --> 2:35:18.760 friend because until money. So that's fucking with girls or religion. 2:35:19.320 --> 2:35:23.880 You even know who your best friends are. Absolutely, and 2:35:24.000 --> 2:35:26.360 we've survived those topics, the things. 2:35:26.480 --> 2:35:30.040 That's why we're best friends. Best friends have to go 2:35:30.200 --> 2:35:32.960 through that thing and I can only and I is 2:35:33.000 --> 2:35:38.520 when Aconolic got the fame. He didn't say Nas was 2:35:38.600 --> 2:35:44.040 better than me. He was academy. He knew that he 2:35:44.080 --> 2:35:45.959 couldn't fuck with this man on the sixteen. 2:35:49.160 --> 2:35:54.119 I couldn't even you, crazy sneaker is all the world's 2:35:54.160 --> 2:35:54.959 past the margin. 2:35:55.320 --> 2:35:59.760 God, I'm the fucking bullshit. Put it in your mouth. God, 2:36:06.200 --> 2:36:19.119 shout out to that's my that's my guy. Man, you're going. 2:36:23.040 --> 2:36:26.720 That's how it goes, man, it's like that in the streets. 2:36:26.760 --> 2:36:30.480 It works like that music in business, man, you are you. 2:36:30.600 --> 2:36:31.120 Great or not? 2:36:32.400 --> 2:36:35.800 How do you feel about do you think the industry 2:36:37.280 --> 2:36:39.000 corrupted hip hop culture? 2:36:40.400 --> 2:36:45.280 I think that money comes in and when money comes in, 2:36:47.760 --> 2:36:50.840 but what's gonna happen is obvious, Like money comes in. 2:36:50.959 --> 2:36:55.840 And changes all of the outcomes. So that's some money 2:36:55.920 --> 2:36:58.520 does It's like it happened in rock music. You know, 2:36:58.760 --> 2:37:04.720 MTV goes on this eyes yeah. 2:37:04.800 --> 2:37:08.160 Hip hop, yeah, I mean like we needed all of 2:37:08.200 --> 2:37:15.920 a sudden. If you if you're gonna grow, the consequences 2:37:15.959 --> 2:37:22.119 of growth is mass adoption, and the massive adoption is corruption. 2:37:24.360 --> 2:37:27.160 That's all. There's nothing wrong with it. It's just the 2:37:27.240 --> 2:37:27.680 way it is. 2:37:28.400 --> 2:37:30.199 Rock and roll got big and all of a sudden, 2:37:30.280 --> 2:37:35.400 it was guys. Look at White Snake. They were compared 2:37:36.160 --> 2:37:40.800 to Bruce Springsteen. White Snake is a rock at there's 2:37:40.840 --> 2:37:43.840 the rock ats they were doing. I always use White 2:37:43.879 --> 2:37:49.680 Snake as an example because White Snake, Nelly, Chaule, Ludi, Chris, 2:37:51.720 --> 2:37:53.800 they're all really talented people. 2:37:56.760 --> 2:38:00.320 They're all talented people, but they all have something in common. 2:38:01.600 --> 2:38:08.480 They had to follow the core truth of something and 2:38:08.640 --> 2:38:09.560 they were all. 2:38:12.959 --> 2:38:17.360 In all the world and sent advised to do something 2:38:17.440 --> 2:38:21.440 that wasn't really at the court of truth of the 2:38:21.520 --> 2:38:22.200 hip hop thing. 2:38:22.360 --> 2:38:26.879 Man, lay down here every day, you know, you gotta 2:38:26.920 --> 2:38:33.840 do this hip hop man. Like for me, I may 2:38:33.920 --> 2:38:42.439 not ever make a billion dollars. Everybody, but if I'm 2:38:42.520 --> 2:38:48.720 saying this on your show, just relaxed. Would ask somebody 2:38:48.800 --> 2:38:55.720 feeling that. But if I tell the truth and it 2:38:55.840 --> 2:38:58.320 takes me as far as I can go, that's a 2:38:58.400 --> 2:39:04.400 billion dollars. Man. The truth is that you're free, said matter. 2:39:05.240 --> 2:39:09.160 Fun with my man, I'm good. I'm gonna keep pushing 2:39:09.200 --> 2:39:13.959 ship forward. I know nobody can funk with me. They 2:39:13.959 --> 2:39:15.640 can try to talk to me, they can't funk with me. 2:39:16.440 --> 2:39:17.279 They can't even. 2:39:18.600 --> 2:39:29.000 It's close. It's as looks just still got that tell 2:39:29.080 --> 2:39:29.720 that SI stop. 2:39:34.520 --> 2:39:37.200 Look, I tried to be a member of so you 2:39:38.280 --> 2:39:43.119 you lost good? That stops and my wilding out Menimo, 2:39:43.280 --> 2:39:45.800 this is my first time being the memoir and. 2:39:46.040 --> 2:39:54.080 So it doesn't matter. Yea, you don't. It's I don't 2:39:54.120 --> 2:39:55.560 want mustache bed. 2:39:55.680 --> 2:40:08.720 Look, I'm saying, stop to say anything about me. 2:40:09.000 --> 2:40:15.800 But why do you think that's the right. Look? Stop 2:40:15.920 --> 2:40:24.560 coming up me, I think think about me. I'm gonna man, 2:40:24.680 --> 2:40:31.120 I got anything you gotta and young guys got the 2:40:31.200 --> 2:40:31.760 same bit. 2:40:33.280 --> 2:40:33.400 Man. 2:40:34.800 --> 2:40:37.879 You haven't talked to him about this. I talked about 2:40:37.920 --> 2:40:45.600 your friend. I don't want to know. Definitely needs a friend. 2:40:45.680 --> 2:40:51.760 Hamp Why you look a thing? Because I gotta relax you. 2:40:53.560 --> 2:40:56.080 But why do you want to thin? But you let 2:40:56.280 --> 2:41:05.240 off you like the Black Show. I guess what stop? 2:41:05.320 --> 2:41:09.360 I got your back with me. Wire mean stop, trust me, 2:41:09.440 --> 2:41:13.840 I got the crowd right. Don't go at me. My god, 2:41:18.360 --> 2:41:21.120 there's not even no money in your way. It's trying 2:41:21.160 --> 2:41:24.440 to figure out I love you stuff that mustache state 2:41:25.160 --> 2:41:30.880 it's better statement, but it's stuff. I'm part week. Stuff 2:41:31.720 --> 2:41:33.880 you can go to be racial, you know, and look, 2:41:34.000 --> 2:41:36.680 you gotta call over got it. He was so scared 2:41:37.720 --> 2:41:39.800 because you know he went at the l g B 2:41:40.080 --> 2:41:43.080 t B t B t B. You gotta realize you 2:41:43.240 --> 2:41:44.800 are safe. What did they say? 2:41:45.800 --> 2:41:50.000 You've never said no, you are phantastic. Everybody got scared 2:41:50.040 --> 2:41:52.760 cause I said l g B T Yo. Listen, they 2:41:52.879 --> 2:41:54.760 got all of us niggas show. 2:41:55.840 --> 2:41:58.480 I mean why you're good with the l g B 2:41:58.640 --> 2:42:08.600 T I'm rich. He loves am. 2:42:08.640 --> 2:42:10.560 I I'm looking to took a shot of that. 2:42:10.720 --> 2:42:14.240 I think right, that one you didn't take. That you 2:42:14.320 --> 2:42:15.800 avoided everything, but that one. 2:42:17.160 --> 2:42:20.480 Stars like a glory on the law, on the law. 2:42:21.120 --> 2:42:28.279 That's why we reconnect back then, because he's actually like, look, tone. 2:42:28.120 --> 2:42:31.800 Is ready to leave. It is important to me. I 2:42:31.920 --> 2:42:35.520 want my manning to get everything. You got something to say. 2:42:35.600 --> 2:42:37.640 You don't do this much. You know he's doing this 2:42:37.680 --> 2:42:40.440 because is on here. You want to say anything. You 2:42:40.640 --> 2:42:44.240 are the best at what you do and you don't 2:42:44.240 --> 2:42:46.640 talk about and still the best that with you, So 2:42:46.760 --> 2:42:54.640 you don't do this. That's my job. Track masses to 2:42:55.160 --> 2:42:56.080 top five, That. 2:42:56.440 --> 2:43:02.640 Lie I gotta stop for a second. Track Masters is 2:43:02.760 --> 2:43:09.120 top three. If a person ever bring up Nono, do. 2:43:09.160 --> 2:43:13.640 You want me to take this from me? A person 2:43:13.760 --> 2:43:16.920 ever bring up the top its producers. 2:43:17.000 --> 2:43:18.880 When you look at a person like NNS and you 2:43:19.040 --> 2:43:22.160 look at ill Man, and when you look at el 2:43:22.280 --> 2:43:27.880 Madic and Illmatic, to me, this is just me, and 2:43:28.000 --> 2:43:30.760 anybody can debate me, or anybody can say fuck you, 2:43:30.920 --> 2:43:34.480 no real anybody. But a lot of times when I 2:43:34.600 --> 2:43:37.200 want a person to study hip hop, I want them 2:43:37.240 --> 2:43:40.520 to start from Ellmatic and then I want you to 2:43:40.640 --> 2:43:45.440 go back. And when you go back and you study 2:43:45.560 --> 2:43:49.920 Ellmatic and then you go back. It was written was 2:43:50.000 --> 2:43:50.800 that first album? 2:43:50.879 --> 2:43:51.040 Is that? 2:43:51.840 --> 2:43:52.240 Is that it? 2:43:53.879 --> 2:43:55.960 And it was written it? It was so needy for 2:43:56.280 --> 2:44:00.600 oh fucking too, that sample, that sting sample from professional 2:44:01.040 --> 2:44:07.120 talking about that too, he said, No, I'm like Lona's 2:44:11.160 --> 2:44:17.480 dum I'm like Tom. Tom played that ship for me first. 2:44:18.080 --> 2:44:22.120 I'm like, I couldn't believe that I had And it 2:44:22.200 --> 2:44:24.360 was the first time in my life I knew I 2:44:24.480 --> 2:44:28.840 had a person that understood it like me. When he 2:44:28.920 --> 2:44:32.080 played that tample he played for me. 2:44:32.480 --> 2:44:35.240 He didn't play it for me like on some like 2:44:36.320 --> 2:44:38.000 he plays to me, Like, Yo, this ship is right, 2:44:39.240 --> 2:44:41.160 I said, I take it to Nas. Nas heard it 2:44:41.200 --> 2:44:41.800 and said, nah, I. 2:44:41.760 --> 2:44:46.320 Don't want to do it. Facts, I said, tell him, 2:44:46.400 --> 2:44:51.160 Nas want to make this record. I trust this guy's 2:44:52.000 --> 2:45:00.080 he's shovel. He's special, super special. He sees things. You 2:45:00.160 --> 2:45:04.400 gotta let him do his sting. Yeah, let him play 2:45:04.400 --> 2:45:04.800 his game. 2:45:05.280 --> 2:45:08.280 He's an awesome spades player too, You'll let him do 2:45:08.360 --> 2:45:09.280 his stink top five. 2:45:16.800 --> 2:45:18.840 By the way, jay Z stopped ducking me on the 2:45:18.879 --> 2:45:24.720 spades game. There's about of stuff and ship. You gotta relax. 2:45:27.760 --> 2:45:35.880 I'm about so he's doing this ship. He plays his 2:45:35.879 --> 2:45:37.520 ship for me. I'm like, I go back there. I 2:45:37.600 --> 2:45:39.959 was like, guy, you're gonna do this ship And I'm 2:45:40.080 --> 2:45:44.920 like if I could rot, it'd be terrible if I 2:45:45.040 --> 2:45:46.520 could rat, but I can't. 2:45:48.200 --> 2:45:51.400 So I'm like, and how you're not gonna wrap over 2:45:51.480 --> 2:45:58.879 this ship, and you hurt that ship, you hurt the message. 2:46:00.120 --> 2:46:03.000 The message is ridiculous. That's the way to start off 2:46:03.080 --> 2:46:04.920 on the album. But it took time to get there 2:46:05.080 --> 2:46:09.560 and Tone, Tone and Nas. I get a lot of 2:46:09.600 --> 2:46:16.680 credit for NAS's career, and but my insight, a lot 2:46:16.760 --> 2:46:19.360 of what I've done, it was really built off of 2:46:19.440 --> 2:46:22.800 my partners understanding. 2:46:22.800 --> 2:46:23.680 A thing. 2:46:26.800 --> 2:46:29.400 Like that. I like that. 2:46:30.200 --> 2:46:33.800 I really liked that, all right, and this and this 2:46:34.040 --> 2:46:37.000 your forget the right story I wanted to give My 2:46:37.520 --> 2:46:38.600 membership is so off. 2:46:39.920 --> 2:46:42.040 Look listen, I'm from left right. I used to shoot 2:46:42.040 --> 2:46:42.920 people who stached out. 2:46:42.920 --> 2:46:43.840 I don't know if you know that. 2:46:44.360 --> 2:46:56.680 I don't believe that you got you gotta realize playing Joe, 2:46:57.959 --> 2:47:04.240 he was feel was a shooter. To my say, is 2:47:04.240 --> 2:47:08.120 a legend. My share has never been fifty was you know. 2:47:09.680 --> 2:47:11.280 A stop shooting guys? 2:47:11.520 --> 2:47:16.720 I'm never shot that was Hey, buddy, you never to 2:47:16.800 --> 2:47:20.200 shoot his It was like you guys, just like it 2:47:20.400 --> 2:47:26.040 wasn't even like a thing like he's a shooter. Shot 2:47:26.160 --> 2:47:34.000 niggas too, was a shooter. Look under this ship tell 2:47:34.040 --> 2:47:34.480 us about you. 2:47:38.720 --> 2:47:40.680 But if you were a shooter, you weren't necessarily the 2:47:40.800 --> 2:47:45.199 boss Nigga you're pulling the team exactly the fact. 2:47:45.480 --> 2:47:47.520 Lead this side of the life. That's the fact. Let 2:47:47.600 --> 2:47:48.119 him talk. 2:47:49.760 --> 2:47:53.480 The shootings inside of life, real talk for that person. 2:47:53.600 --> 2:47:56.840 That of the is that life was decided. 2:47:57.640 --> 2:48:00.560 There was shoots, niggas shoot is like, that's the shooter. 2:48:00.680 --> 2:48:04.400 This that But if you were the Boss Snigger and 2:48:04.520 --> 2:48:06.320 you had a team together and you had a shooter on. 2:48:06.400 --> 2:48:08.400 The team, absolutely saying it. 2:48:09.040 --> 2:48:09.920 You know what I'm saying. 2:48:10.000 --> 2:48:14.720 I didn't say that, but how okar was it? 2:48:14.920 --> 2:48:15.080 Right? 2:48:15.240 --> 2:48:19.160 Like now, now you're probably the only person in the 2:48:19.320 --> 2:48:23.840 world that has access to to jay Z and Nas 2:48:24.080 --> 2:48:26.640 at the same time. 2:48:26.959 --> 2:48:33.600 Still still and and listen, I'm gonna just I'm gonna 2:48:33.800 --> 2:48:36.320 throw this out there. I look at them like the 2:48:36.480 --> 2:48:40.320 two tycoons. I look at them like the the fucking. 2:48:40.520 --> 2:48:42.040 Fast this is this is it. 2:48:42.800 --> 2:48:46.400 This is hip hop to me, these two guys you 2:48:46.560 --> 2:48:57.240 the only access to the tooist tycoons in the world. 2:48:57.800 --> 2:48:58.760 I'm not gonna lie to you. 2:48:59.240 --> 2:49:02.600 Stop. If I was you, I would have did so 2:49:02.840 --> 2:49:03.760 crazy like I. 2:49:06.360 --> 2:49:09.199 Just pissed on people for the reason why they. 2:49:10.959 --> 2:49:12.760 Fig you up and big you up. This is what 2:49:12.840 --> 2:49:15.480 I would have did about it. I'll just pissed on people. 2:49:17.400 --> 2:49:18.039 You know what. 2:49:21.959 --> 2:49:22.680 Was pissed. 2:49:24.240 --> 2:49:24.280 You. 2:49:27.840 --> 2:49:30.480 But I'm just saying, stop, why the fuck is you 2:49:30.840 --> 2:49:34.000 that humble? And you had You're the only person in 2:49:34.040 --> 2:49:37.160 the world, in my opinion, that had access to them. 2:49:37.200 --> 2:49:42.760 Boll they guys, they went through it. How the fuck 2:49:42.879 --> 2:49:46.680 do you make and then and then listen if you 2:49:46.800 --> 2:49:50.760 have to maintain your relationships, bom, this is tycoons. 2:49:51.120 --> 2:49:54.240 This is not for vernal saurus. I don't even know 2:49:54.280 --> 2:49:54.520 what that. 2:49:56.240 --> 2:50:00.600 Just robbed me, not robbing me ours. 2:50:00.840 --> 2:50:02.720 This is why we this is why we get it 2:50:02.920 --> 2:50:04.360 get we make up dinosaurs. 2:50:04.440 --> 2:50:07.760 We make up dinosaurs and you're the only. 2:50:07.640 --> 2:50:13.800 Guy in the world. Is it awkward? Oh? 2:50:14.520 --> 2:50:18.640 Okay, don't start opening. Okay, tell me it's it's awkward 2:50:18.720 --> 2:50:19.840 because I mean I. 2:50:20.000 --> 2:50:25.240 Deserve to be in the room. M deserve what I 2:50:25.440 --> 2:50:29.440 deserve to be in the room. Okay, take it for me, 2:50:30.760 --> 2:50:39.400 you know, artist man of that level. My job is 2:50:39.760 --> 2:50:45.400 it's always make sure what do you need? I see, 2:50:45.520 --> 2:50:48.640 j what do you need? Now? As what do you need? 2:50:49.640 --> 2:50:55.760 I love these guys. I don't care about the money. Man. 2:50:56.680 --> 2:51:00.640 If I mean it about money, it would be different. Mm. 2:51:01.480 --> 2:51:03.600 But it's not about money. I love those guys. I 2:51:03.720 --> 2:51:07.480 can't even believe I know both of those guys. I 2:51:07.560 --> 2:51:11.000 speak to them. There's not a week that goes by. 2:51:11.080 --> 2:51:22.560 I don't speak Then and jay Z. I speak you crazy. 2:51:22.680 --> 2:51:25.160 It's to me that that's a crazy idea. I speak 2:51:25.200 --> 2:51:31.320 Then and jay Z every week or every day, all 2:51:31.400 --> 2:51:37.039 the time. It has nothing to do with anything. It's real. 2:51:37.520 --> 2:51:40.280 It's a real relationship. You have people you speak to 2:51:40.320 --> 2:51:40.959 you every other. 2:51:40.920 --> 2:51:48.000 Day, and mean you aren't seeking trying to make it 2:51:48.080 --> 2:51:56.720 a normal thing that you even know what that's done 2:51:56.720 --> 2:51:57.480 on a normal day. 2:51:57.840 --> 2:51:58.560 That's not normal. 2:51:59.800 --> 2:52:02.879 It's it's not. 2:52:05.200 --> 2:52:08.920 Your listen stuff, and it's just this comes. A part 2:52:09.000 --> 2:52:13.960 of me begging you up is because you were the 2:52:14.360 --> 2:52:18.600 only person in the hip hop who could have fixed 2:52:18.640 --> 2:52:19.439 that situation. 2:52:21.240 --> 2:52:22.440 They're not to take credit for it. 2:52:23.120 --> 2:52:24.880 You don't take credit for No. 2:52:26.200 --> 2:52:30.320 No, you don't understand how great they are. They don't. 2:52:32.360 --> 2:52:40.800 It's fucking Shakespeare and Picasso. It's not really a thing. 2:52:42.360 --> 2:52:46.920 It's Shakespeare. If you're making Shakespeare, Picasso's no problem. They 2:52:47.000 --> 2:52:49.200 don't argue with each other or fight with each other. 2:52:49.240 --> 2:52:49.560 They're like. 2:52:51.720 --> 2:52:57.040 Great, but no, damn, ye don't believe he believe the things. 2:52:57.080 --> 2:52:59.880 The way they see the world I can't believe I'm 2:52:59.879 --> 2:53:00.400 around it. 2:53:02.480 --> 2:53:07.040 But but but but stop, but stop, let me just 2:53:07.160 --> 2:53:08.959 let me just pick you up once and once again. 2:53:09.520 --> 2:53:12.440 You're probably the only person that had access to the 2:53:12.640 --> 2:53:15.960 most toof No. 2:53:16.480 --> 2:53:19.800 But see, Puff had bad Boy and he had I 2:53:19.879 --> 2:53:23.280 had no Yeah, I had no alterium motives that so 2:53:23.400 --> 2:53:26.240 I got everything. Nigga finished my sentence. That was the 2:53:26.320 --> 2:53:29.160 exact sentence I was saying, was a lot of people 2:53:29.280 --> 2:53:32.320 had as motives are. I don't want you to drop 2:53:33.360 --> 2:53:35.560 a lot of I'm sorry, I was. I was trying 2:53:35.600 --> 2:53:39.280 to have you people. 2:53:41.560 --> 2:53:45.160 But you was the only guy that in the middle, 2:53:45.640 --> 2:53:48.520 prior to the beef, in between the beef, and after 2:53:48.640 --> 2:53:52.160 the beef, that had access to the two most. 2:53:54.680 --> 2:53:57.880 Likes the part of the show. 2:53:58.120 --> 2:54:01.360 But you had access to the most Nigga's two icons 2:54:01.760 --> 2:54:02.560 and hip hop. 2:54:06.000 --> 2:54:07.879 You need I. 2:54:09.520 --> 2:54:11.879 No, but how how does that feel to be when 2:54:12.000 --> 2:54:15.320 access to the two biggest icons ever in hip hop? 2:54:15.879 --> 2:54:18.440 And I'm gonna be honest with you, as a person 2:54:18.640 --> 2:54:22.600 that that know you, like halfway know you, I know you. 2:54:22.800 --> 2:54:26.560 You was uncomfortable during that that situation was I was 2:54:26.640 --> 2:54:27.359 not uncomfortable. 2:54:27.720 --> 2:54:33.680 You wasn't more than that James Beef. You wasn't at all, 2:54:34.360 --> 2:54:38.480 because when beef is clear, No, we know it wasn't. 2:54:40.800 --> 2:54:42.400 No apology. 2:54:44.560 --> 2:54:47.000 Continue like he's a queen's nigga. You can want him 2:54:47.000 --> 2:54:49.760 to sit. No, he's for queens you know and other 2:54:49.840 --> 2:54:50.440 queens nigga. 2:54:50.480 --> 2:54:51.840 I apologize. Continue. 2:54:51.959 --> 2:54:55.800 So the best ropers of all time? You want to 2:54:55.840 --> 2:55:00.280 go there and now that later because it was of 2:55:00.320 --> 2:55:05.320 all task Yo, science what you're doing? 2:55:06.400 --> 2:55:06.640 Queen? 2:55:06.760 --> 2:55:12.480 No, I don't remember our engineers the Queens, Yeah, exactly. 2:55:12.360 --> 2:55:17.040 Anybody else from Queens operated green You from Queens. 2:55:17.080 --> 2:55:20.160 I'm just saying we could debate the best rappers of 2:55:20.200 --> 2:55:20.840 all time. 2:55:20.720 --> 2:55:24.480 From wherever they're from. You don't Miami. Nobody ever says, Oh, 2:55:24.640 --> 2:55:31.040 I'll tell you Miami a bro as and H and 2:55:31.520 --> 2:55:32.080 L and. 2:55:32.360 --> 2:55:36.680 Fucking trap Corp. Queens, Uh huh, your Rockums on Island 2:55:37.680 --> 2:55:38.400 and Bob. 2:55:38.200 --> 2:55:44.120 D Okay, you deleting all the West Coast Crew was 2:55:44.160 --> 2:55:45.200 one of the best to do it too. 2:55:45.680 --> 2:55:46.080 Queens. 2:55:47.160 --> 2:55:48.760 You're not accepting that. 2:55:49.920 --> 2:55:56.320 Queens? Oh okay, that was battling you got. The battle 2:55:56.400 --> 2:55:58.560 is always Queens versus Brooklyn. It's not even close. 2:55:58.800 --> 2:56:00.960 Okay, you wins every time. 2:56:01.760 --> 2:56:05.080 He has better rappers and broke to you. My friend too. 2:56:06.879 --> 2:56:08.960 I got Big and jay Z, I don't. I don't 2:56:08.959 --> 2:56:11.680 know what to tell you. I got Nas, I got 2:56:11.800 --> 2:56:14.640 your Chea Rod, I got trap Cake Quest, I got 2:56:14.720 --> 2:56:16.720 Big Daddy. I ever got lots. 2:56:18.160 --> 2:56:19.400 I haven't Big Daddy Kane. 2:56:20.680 --> 2:56:24.920 You know, Big Daddy's this big L, BIGL. 2:56:26.680 --> 2:56:34.720 Come on, you know Big Daddy Kane really literally literally 2:56:35.160 --> 2:56:42.760 just shake the left of this first album. Wow, I 2:56:42.959 --> 2:56:50.280 wasn't I wasn't ready. What's the second album? You don't know? 2:56:53.080 --> 2:57:00.760 He wasn't all. I was google that. Let's turn out, yo, 2:57:01.000 --> 2:57:04.640 I love Dophins was the second alum Big, Big Daddy, 2:57:05.760 --> 2:57:18.080 Big Madonna. Yeah, that was. This was so realized. You 2:57:18.080 --> 2:57:23.480 already saying everything. We're saying things. I think Big Daddy 2:57:23.520 --> 2:57:28.080 Cane didn't fall off to Big Daddy Came. It is 2:57:28.240 --> 2:57:33.680 a two fucking ridiculous rapping kids rap. 2:57:35.280 --> 2:57:45.000 Big Daddy Came did not have the fucking j No, 2:57:46.160 --> 2:57:50.800 you need, motherfucking it's not even experience. 2:57:50.879 --> 2:57:58.680 You need what Nigga got, like the the ability to 2:57:58.840 --> 2:58:03.480 run the long race, the long run. He can't fuck Madonna. 2:58:03.600 --> 2:58:08.520 Come on, Madonna. That was like career stop. 2:58:08.400 --> 2:58:15.800 List stop to stop me, please, it's not listen stop listen. 2:58:16.400 --> 2:58:18.040 Let me pick you up right now, because if you 2:58:18.600 --> 2:58:21.040 listen right here, that's no problem. No, no, I'm just 2:58:21.120 --> 2:58:24.000 telling you. If you're saying Big Daddy Kane had a 2:58:24.040 --> 2:58:25.119 better career Rock. 2:58:25.040 --> 2:58:26.680 Cam, nobody said that he did. 2:58:28.800 --> 2:58:32.600 I mean, you can't rock rock him. What are you 2:58:32.600 --> 2:58:33.200 talking about? Right? 2:58:33.280 --> 2:58:34.440 The worst of best at the. 2:58:35.040 --> 2:58:38.680 Rock rock Kim had that first album was classic, second 2:58:38.720 --> 2:58:39.440 album was dope. 2:58:39.480 --> 2:58:42.520 Then I mean, I mean rock Kim. 2:58:42.959 --> 2:58:45.600 The lyricist rock him is come on the still there. 2:58:45.959 --> 2:58:49.800 But I think Big Daddy King's career was a better 2:58:49.920 --> 2:58:52.360 career rock. Do you think Big Day Kim is a 2:58:52.400 --> 2:58:56.560 better one better than rock Cam? Is that what you're saying? 2:58:57.280 --> 2:59:02.119 He said career better than rocket career had. 2:59:04.560 --> 2:59:07.320 LJ has a better rap career than most people. 2:59:08.200 --> 2:59:11.119 I don't even want to be in conversation talking about 2:59:12.280 --> 2:59:13.879 how about who do you think you had a better 2:59:13.959 --> 2:59:21.280 career ice Cube or right? Career? Is ice Cube as 2:59:21.320 --> 2:59:21.800 a rapper? 2:59:22.400 --> 2:59:22.560 Oh? 2:59:22.640 --> 2:59:28.560 As a rapper? The problems get tough. That's tough. That's tough. 2:59:29.280 --> 2:59:32.480 That's that's a very tough saying. Career overall is. 2:59:32.520 --> 2:59:35.320 Ice c what's getting played? The guy that had just 2:59:35.800 --> 2:59:44.959 didn't the kapper Knap we'll see and Bill Moore? Bill Moore, Yeah, what. 2:59:45.040 --> 2:59:49.560 Are you doing? You know they listen the black community 2:59:50.160 --> 2:59:54.400 fried kidd and play. Do you understand what I'm saying? Stuff? 2:59:54.760 --> 2:59:57.520 I fried kidd't play because Kidd and play was the 2:59:58.480 --> 3:00:00.000 he posed as the white. 2:59:59.800 --> 3:00:06.120 Guy you're being. Was that crazy? 3:00:06.360 --> 3:00:07.560 Was that crazy as the. 3:00:07.600 --> 3:00:12.040 Person what you're doing right now? I know what that like? 3:00:12.120 --> 3:00:13.320 That know what? That great? 3:00:13.360 --> 3:00:19.320 And that's very disrespectful because because sometimes we don't want 3:00:20.480 --> 3:00:21.160 I'm just asking. 3:00:21.200 --> 3:00:23.600 I'm asking because you know, I'm just a journalist. This 3:00:23.600 --> 3:00:28.440 is a journalist A question at this point is this 3:00:28.600 --> 3:00:30.080 when it starts. 3:00:31.879 --> 3:00:34.160 Listen, we respect you, Steve Stout. I just want you 3:00:34.240 --> 3:00:37.119 to know that in case you didn't know that, I respect. 3:00:37.440 --> 3:00:40.720 Ship is clean, nor ship is clean clean. 3:00:41.000 --> 3:00:45.200 Yes, and you you did Lisa. Let's left I too, right, 3:00:45.720 --> 3:00:48.400 Let's talk about that. He said left file first. 3:00:51.680 --> 3:00:55.960 She passed away. Yes, we had her first. You know 3:00:56.160 --> 3:00:59.720 it's not any medium. I want to man more respectful. 3:01:00.200 --> 3:01:05.360 I pologized, said, was my girlfriend very early my Careerly, 3:01:05.920 --> 3:01:12.360 that's beautiful. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about sex. No, no, 3:01:12.560 --> 3:01:15.280 that's sex. I didn't say that. I said you had 3:01:15.440 --> 3:01:18.400 you was with that's that's like one of the biggest 3:01:18.400 --> 3:01:19.880 with themself thirteen million. 3:01:20.440 --> 3:01:24.080 Even that condolence is actually you know what I'm saying, 3:01:24.240 --> 3:01:26.280 like like that must have been hurtful. 3:01:26.360 --> 3:01:27.800 Man, she ain't trying to burn. 3:01:27.720 --> 3:01:30.680 Your off down right. He took it like, no, try. 3:01:31.120 --> 3:01:37.240 We all heard. We all heard it. You you you 3:01:37.320 --> 3:01:40.160 know I'm wrong. You haven't heard. We all heard for that, 3:01:40.959 --> 3:01:42.800 and I would imagine you heard more. It was tough. 3:01:42.920 --> 3:01:44.840 She was talented, man, she's super talented. 3:01:45.560 --> 3:01:45.760 Yeah. 3:01:48.280 --> 3:01:57.320 Yo, ho' done everything, by the way. That's that's how 3:01:57.640 --> 3:01:58.080 that's for me. 3:01:58.160 --> 3:02:01.880 People want to manage my manager, I crib you cat 3:02:01.920 --> 3:02:03.480 down pictures in him left. 3:02:03.560 --> 3:02:05.320 I just chilling, like go on vacation. I'm like, you 3:02:05.440 --> 3:02:07.840 know how, Like I'm looking at him like, how do 3:02:07.959 --> 3:02:11.400 you even know the s girl? Oh you're swimming in 3:02:11.520 --> 3:02:15.840 the water, swimming underwater, snorkeling. Yeah, pictures on the water. 3:02:17.840 --> 3:02:19.359 There stopping rich fava. 3:02:21.080 --> 3:02:24.240 You know what under the water. You know you drink 3:02:24.320 --> 3:02:25.600 all the good wine by yourself? 3:02:25.680 --> 3:02:28.600 No, I love it comes, I'll hang out, wanting to 3:02:28.640 --> 3:02:29.680 hang for twenty. 3:02:30.959 --> 3:02:33.280 This is this. Don't glad you got my phone number? 3:02:33.360 --> 3:02:34.240 Now we're gonna make it. 3:02:34.360 --> 3:02:37.840 I've been hitting right, you don't make it right. We've 3:02:37.920 --> 3:02:39.880 been coordinating, Yes, we've been coldly. 3:02:40.000 --> 3:02:49.800 You think that your mustache for bats right, I'm so 3:02:50.040 --> 3:02:56.520 comfort you're taking this pi a right either a go? 3:02:58.080 --> 3:02:58.400 You know what? 3:02:58.959 --> 3:02:59.360 What's wrong? 3:02:59.480 --> 3:03:08.039 I niggas on the what's the game of thrones? Because 3:03:08.040 --> 3:03:12.200 I don't want to just do you think there's a 3:03:12.280 --> 3:03:13.320 thing called tooth thin? 3:03:14.920 --> 3:03:18.720 I have no idea about. But let's say, coming off 3:03:18.800 --> 3:03:20.240 your go to tooth thin. 3:03:22.560 --> 3:03:25.960 Every other CEO to one hit, you take one hit? 3:03:26.240 --> 3:03:26.760 What're not doing? 3:03:26.840 --> 3:03:26.960 Man? 3:03:27.400 --> 3:03:29.080 You're taking another shot it? 3:03:29.320 --> 3:03:35.080 Yes, let's do it. Let's do it. Come on, I'm 3:03:35.120 --> 3:03:38.680 hearing it. I'm here, let's get let's give another tackle 3:03:39.440 --> 3:03:41.000 and listen seem. 3:03:40.760 --> 3:03:43.840 Style track master's tone. We want you all to know 3:03:44.520 --> 3:03:47.080 that we love y'all. We appreciate y'all. 3:03:47.680 --> 3:03:53.680 What y'all doing. W's where's cruise supporting me? Finished? We 3:03:53.800 --> 3:03:56.000 finished that, finished while. 3:03:57.480 --> 3:04:01.280 Made so many queens niggas, which I made it known 3:04:01.440 --> 3:04:03.960 to all my crew, and I told him, this is 3:04:04.040 --> 3:04:06.800 a guy. We gotta make sure his red carpet is 3:04:06.920 --> 3:04:11.760 laid out. We gotta make sure, thank you, we gotta 3:04:11.920 --> 3:04:15.040 make sure. We gotta make sure that that's why we 3:04:15.200 --> 3:04:15.879 had whiskey. 3:04:16.640 --> 3:04:21.560 I hate you, by the way, Listen, all bulls should 3:04:21.560 --> 3:04:27.600 have started. I'm grateful to be here. Thank you what 3:04:27.760 --> 3:04:30.280 you did, what you're doing. But you guys are doing 3:04:30.320 --> 3:04:33.680 it's not it's not not important. 3:04:34.160 --> 3:04:35.560 Whe does you make a lot of money or a 3:04:35.600 --> 3:04:40.720 little bit of money, It's important, Okay. I can't for us. 3:04:41.160 --> 3:04:41.920 I came here. 3:04:45.000 --> 3:04:49.680 Because if he didn't, we didn't have a one on 3:04:49.840 --> 3:04:55.640 one that I wouldn't do it. I love him, I 3:04:55.800 --> 3:04:58.840 love him too, and I just want to like keep 3:04:58.879 --> 3:05:00.240 pushing comfort forward, don't. 3:05:00.760 --> 3:05:04.080 I don't care about the other city. I just don't care. 3:05:05.240 --> 3:05:06.920 And I've been in a lot of rooms, with a 3:05:06.959 --> 3:05:07.959 lot of people, a lot. 3:05:07.920 --> 3:05:12.800 Of places, but hasn't changed my love for the for 3:05:12.920 --> 3:05:16.959 the art form, for the music, for what we all 3:05:17.440 --> 3:05:18.120 while we all have. 3:05:18.560 --> 3:05:19.760 When I when I pulled up and. 3:05:19.720 --> 3:05:22.840 I see the graffiti, I felt comfortable. I love graffiti. 3:05:23.520 --> 3:05:28.400 Graffiti means your home. Graffiti's like signs that equal oh 3:05:28.440 --> 3:05:29.320 you're on your way home. 3:05:30.800 --> 3:05:36.480 And I love that shit. So drink Champs and puff 3:05:36.560 --> 3:05:41.160 and vault and I know you're tired and shit, but listen, listen, 3:05:41.240 --> 3:05:44.200 let me tell you something. Stun I want you to 3:05:44.360 --> 3:05:47.080 understand this. This is one thing that I will. I 3:05:47.120 --> 3:05:49.480 would like the hip hop culture to understand. 3:05:50.600 --> 3:05:53.280 We finally have a platform where we probably have a 3:05:54.560 --> 3:05:57.800 thing where you can come here and you can promote 3:05:57.920 --> 3:05:58.760 your fitting head. 3:05:59.640 --> 3:06:03.920 And I'm a person like I have a platinum platu, 3:06:04.360 --> 3:06:08.680 I have four gold plaques. Yeah, I've got that. 3:06:10.040 --> 3:06:14.560 So when it's come timetable to promote something or talk 3:06:14.640 --> 3:06:15.439 to something. 3:06:15.440 --> 3:06:18.760 Who want our people to come to us first? And 3:06:18.879 --> 3:06:25.840 I feel like I owner everywhere here right now. 3:06:26.000 --> 3:06:29.360 Live in Miami. You gotta place, and you gotta place 3:06:29.440 --> 3:06:31.000 in New York too. You want me some nos in me? 3:06:31.160 --> 3:06:31.560 Tell them. 3:06:37.320 --> 3:06:41.280 What I'm saying this style. This is what I was 3:06:41.320 --> 3:06:43.760 trying to say to you. It's like, why not we 3:06:44.120 --> 3:06:47.200 just all support us no matter where it is? 3:06:47.360 --> 3:06:51.400 Aware that you could come up with a I don't 3:06:51.440 --> 3:06:53.320 know what this is. This is fly, I don't know. 3:06:53.800 --> 3:06:55.320 Can you tell me what this is called? This is 3:06:55.400 --> 3:06:58.640 a bag that holds wine? A bag that holds wine? 3:07:00.120 --> 3:07:03.440 Set up is right? And these ideas that they made 3:07:03.480 --> 3:07:06.840 with debasing the guys, this is different colors, you know. 3:07:07.840 --> 3:07:10.120 I mean, it's a queen figure for real. Let's make 3:07:10.200 --> 3:07:10.720 some nice. 3:07:13.879 --> 3:07:16.119 But but no this is real ship to think about 3:07:16.240 --> 3:07:18.840 hip hop. I just want to continue to support hip hop. 3:07:18.959 --> 3:07:21.640 What I mean by that style is hear me out. 3:07:25.800 --> 3:07:29.720 Of course, we could go to the traditional radio system, right, 3:07:30.480 --> 3:07:33.760 we could go to the traditional you know, sitting. 3:07:33.520 --> 3:07:36.280 Down with who we sat down with before. But let 3:07:36.360 --> 3:07:39.560 me just tell you something. The people didn't sat down with. 3:07:40.240 --> 3:07:41.119 Don't listen. Listen. 3:07:41.520 --> 3:07:44.240 He used to go around all around the country having 3:07:44.440 --> 3:07:47.760 dumb conversations trying to realize. 3:07:48.000 --> 3:07:52.199 But what I realized is this back in the days 3:07:52.240 --> 3:07:54.240 when we used to sell drugs in New York City. 3:07:54.879 --> 3:07:56.680 We used to sell drugs in New York City. 3:07:57.200 --> 3:08:01.920 But everybody used to get up or become rich if 3:08:01.959 --> 3:08:02.959 they go out of town. 3:08:03.080 --> 3:08:06.280 I bet you all your friends. The maker used to say, 3:08:06.480 --> 3:08:09.600 I'm going out of town and I'm getting rich. The 3:08:09.720 --> 3:08:10.720 thing about it is. 3:08:10.920 --> 3:08:15.760 Next getting rich is SoundCloud. 3:08:16.480 --> 3:08:21.400 Getting riches is staying right there selling your own product. 3:08:21.240 --> 3:08:22.280 In the same place. 3:08:23.160 --> 3:08:25.480 Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Yes, that's 3:08:25.560 --> 3:08:29.680 why Jay went to four the four forty four. He 3:08:29.800 --> 3:08:34.560 went and he sold it to only Sprint customers. Are 3:08:34.600 --> 3:08:36.120 you understand what I'm trying to say? 3:08:36.680 --> 3:08:41.760 So now we're doing a lot of things yes, yes, yes, yes, 3:08:42.080 --> 3:08:46.520 and yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm gonna do what I'm 3:08:46.520 --> 3:08:50.760 gonna of course, Man, you're saying all the right things. 3:08:54.360 --> 3:08:56.960 How happy to be here? Man, this hip hop gonna 3:08:57.000 --> 3:08:58.920 But you went from me it's hip hop? Will ever 3:08:59.000 --> 3:09:06.360 get any bigger? Oh no, we're still in the beginning it. 3:09:07.280 --> 3:09:09.960 That's the part that as long as we grab that, 3:09:11.080 --> 3:09:15.000 I'm there and I'm gonna work with the guys that 3:09:15.120 --> 3:09:17.840 people don't even think it's dope. You don't like the 3:09:18.320 --> 3:09:21.959 Little YACHTI is dope. Fucking I'm fucking with Lil Yachty. 3:09:22.959 --> 3:09:29.360 I'm fucking with what you're doing with their handshake, talking 3:09:29.400 --> 3:09:34.200 with everybody. If you were pushing culture forward, it's dope. 3:09:34.280 --> 3:09:40.840 It's wrapped, it's graffiti, it's this, it's that, it's fuck you. 3:09:41.360 --> 3:09:44.440 It's the truth. We don't have to like it. 3:09:45.080 --> 3:09:47.440 Old school niggas don't have to like it. But the 3:09:47.520 --> 3:09:50.400 truth of the matter is old school niggas who liked 3:09:52.440 --> 3:09:57.560 the beginning of Bob Dyling, they didn't like it, was like, 3:09:57.680 --> 3:09:59.920 what is that? I like Bob Deylan? What the fun 3:10:00.120 --> 3:10:03.440 is Nirvana? If you like Bob Dylan in the seventies, 3:10:03.480 --> 3:10:05.240 why would you like Nirvana. 3:10:06.120 --> 3:10:08.480 Like how Mellanan were dressing either. 3:10:08.840 --> 3:10:12.440 Yeah, I like that how Melion dressed even exactly. But 3:10:12.920 --> 3:10:14.800 as time goes on, you just have to keep going 3:10:14.840 --> 3:10:17.520 with the art form. You gotta understand what the truth is. 3:10:17.879 --> 3:10:23.000 And he keeps resetting itself. Alonzo Ball, Alonzo Ball. 3:10:23.520 --> 3:10:26.560 I don't know. He looks like missus Softy go away, 3:10:29.400 --> 3:10:38.920 like the whole look. You like his look. I don't 3:10:39.000 --> 3:10:43.760 like the way he plays. Man. He came out brother, 3:10:44.520 --> 3:10:52.800 how would he come at? Nah, he's a bum anywhere 3:10:52.959 --> 3:10:57.119 at all. He said, he's a bumb His father wants 3:10:57.160 --> 3:11:00.160 me to him. You know how great that he used 3:11:00.160 --> 3:11:08.080 to have won. Let's phone call. I need phone calls. 3:11:08.440 --> 3:11:18.120 I'm not looking at for phone calls. So goad, no, 3:11:18.600 --> 3:11:21.640 you got me. He was the first person that I 3:11:21.840 --> 3:11:26.279 just think he got. He got working and magic, magic 3:11:26.400 --> 3:11:29.640 endorse some he got working deal. You got magic the homie, 3:11:29.800 --> 3:11:31.040 right is it? 3:11:32.360 --> 3:11:35.879 It's magic the homie. You got to see if magic's 3:11:35.920 --> 3:11:40.560 the homie, massic the homie to me is magic the homie. 3:11:41.080 --> 3:11:43.800 He is this nigga running around shooting on nas. 3:11:43.920 --> 3:11:46.640 We can't do that. That's that's how you shoot ones 3:11:46.760 --> 3:11:53.920 walking around with a stupid face. You like his face? 3:11:56.560 --> 3:11:57.840 Anybody didn't like his face? 3:12:04.440 --> 3:12:08.400 We're doing it? Guys, what are you doing? 3:12:08.680 --> 3:12:08.840 Man? 3:12:09.800 --> 3:12:20.440 Got in the own name? You know what I mean. 3:12:20.760 --> 3:12:23.080 There's a new thing we need to work out. Face 3:12:23.200 --> 3:12:29.920 the floor ratio Cat's out break that down it's from 3:12:30.120 --> 3:12:41.200 bigging of his friend. You don't think so what is 3:12:41.240 --> 3:12:41.640 it doing? 3:12:41.720 --> 3:12:41.760 On? 3:12:42.480 --> 3:12:46.920 Is from and in tones? Mind? Tone is texting you 3:12:47.040 --> 3:12:54.240 right now like I feel like you. No, he has 3:12:54.320 --> 3:13:05.400 some reduces from or increases price. We come listen, I'm 3:13:05.440 --> 3:13:09.240 gona be honest. They bring in the world is gonna 3:13:09.560 --> 3:13:15.280 but that is the one to miss, Queen. That's how 3:13:15.440 --> 3:13:19.680 queens is getting down. Kid. You know what am I saying? No, totally, 3:13:19.840 --> 3:13:22.480 you're just being Queen's the think about it. The world 3:13:22.560 --> 3:13:25.920 was gonna be like that? Did that now? I know? Really, Queen, 3:13:26.400 --> 3:13:29.280 this is bad. I don't know how you feel your 3:13:29.360 --> 3:13:37.600 job at No, I have no job to face race. 3:13:39.560 --> 3:13:52.200 I have no idea his face, it is it. The 3:13:52.360 --> 3:13:59.320 CEOs is always the worst. You listen, Look, you're trying 3:13:59.360 --> 3:13:59.760 to act like. 3:14:09.440 --> 3:14:10.320 What am I saying that? 3:14:10.440 --> 3:14:14.600 Shong, No, it's a beautiful thing. This is this is 3:14:14.640 --> 3:14:15.000 what we do. 3:14:15.240 --> 3:14:19.560 We love entertainment. Let's keep going Stout and you are 3:14:19.720 --> 3:14:24.039 a beautiful guest. I love you, and you know, listen Stout, 3:14:24.120 --> 3:14:24.959 I wanna be honest. 3:14:25.280 --> 3:14:29.560 I'll be honest. We had Leon, we had Kevin Lows. 3:14:29.959 --> 3:14:32.440 But when people told me that Stout wanted to do 3:14:32.560 --> 3:14:35.240 the show, I was so excited. One because you're from 3:14:35.360 --> 3:14:41.000 Queen's and I wanted to big up my fellow Queen's partner, 3:14:41.720 --> 3:14:46.200 but to because given like one of the unreachable guys, 3:14:46.400 --> 3:14:50.360 it should be in the industry, like the unreachable like 3:14:50.560 --> 3:14:54.480 like like it's hard, like if you don't need a 3:14:54.560 --> 3:14:58.200 private life, break that down, like. 3:15:00.040 --> 3:15:03.200 I don't do that. I don't need it. You know what, 3:15:03.440 --> 3:15:07.560 I don't need it. What I love is I love. 3:15:09.240 --> 3:15:14.440 I love the space, I love I love the honest 3:15:14.560 --> 3:15:18.680 about ship. I love laughing laughingly is the best, laughing. 3:15:19.000 --> 3:15:27.680 Fantastic, And like, I think we missed a lot of 3:15:27.720 --> 3:15:31.080 ship tonight. I think I don't know when I'm gonna 3:15:31.080 --> 3:15:32.480 do this ship. 3:15:33.560 --> 3:15:34.039 I don't. 3:15:37.000 --> 3:15:39.480 Think we missed a lot of ship because like what 3:15:39.680 --> 3:15:42.640 what what? What do you think we best more nuances 3:15:42.720 --> 3:15:44.920 that will push it on the edge, But we didn't 3:15:45.080 --> 3:15:49.280 like when when what's his name? The white guy who 3:15:49.440 --> 3:15:54.439 made all the money in the radio and radio how Howard. 3:15:54.160 --> 3:15:59.600 Started, but how it starts, you gotta go further, like 3:15:59.720 --> 3:16:03.000 when really touching all the way when I tell the truth, 3:16:03.280 --> 3:16:05.000 somebody has to hate him. 3:16:06.280 --> 3:16:08.120 I'm not making this out, So you want to you 3:16:08.160 --> 3:16:10.520 want to go there? Like because the thing. 3:16:10.800 --> 3:16:13.600 Because somebody has to say ship that's so fucked up, 3:16:14.160 --> 3:16:18.760 but it's true. Like but like how would Stir would 3:16:18.760 --> 3:16:22.199 say things about Madonna? Like somebody has to say something 3:16:22.360 --> 3:16:25.400 man like like I'm not making anything else. 3:16:25.680 --> 3:16:26.800 There's way more ship. 3:16:27.760 --> 3:16:30.640 We all the artists that we touched, all the things 3:16:30.680 --> 3:16:32.640 that we touched, we didn't tell the truth. 3:16:33.320 --> 3:16:34.680 We told most of the truth. 3:16:35.160 --> 3:16:37.520 So we're talking. 3:16:37.360 --> 3:16:42.520 About want to go there, okay, because we don't really 3:16:42.560 --> 3:16:46.600 want You just said we want to go there. We 3:16:46.680 --> 3:16:49.920 want to go there because the thing about it is you, 3:16:50.040 --> 3:16:53.160 the person who you have a book called America. 3:16:53.240 --> 3:16:58.440 That's right in America means you was making it all 3:16:58.600 --> 3:16:59.400 one series. 3:16:59.760 --> 3:17:04.640 So think about it once. Okay, Okay, I'm going there 3:17:04.680 --> 3:17:07.360 now now. I was, I was I was going to last. 3:17:07.720 --> 3:17:10.480 I wanted to my SOHO House card. But I'm gonna last. 3:17:10.520 --> 3:17:13.240 I'm gonna get that next year. No, no, no, not 3:17:13.400 --> 3:17:14.000 mean two. 3:17:13.879 --> 3:17:18.240 Weeks, right, But listen, so stout think about it. 3:17:19.040 --> 3:17:23.000 I can definitely eat it. So it's not more style. 3:17:23.760 --> 3:17:28.960 Let me live. So stout the thing about it? And 3:17:29.080 --> 3:17:31.640 when when when? When? 3:17:31.800 --> 3:17:32.880 You know what? 3:17:35.360 --> 3:17:37.800 But when thinking people think about it and they think 3:17:37.840 --> 3:17:42.320 about people like who's successful like you, people like successful 3:17:42.400 --> 3:17:47.279 like day, people successful like dam They always allude. 3:17:46.879 --> 3:17:54.560 To these people. Who is an aluminating there answer, I 3:17:54.640 --> 3:17:57.960 didn't know what they're talking about. That I am not. 3:17:58.480 --> 3:18:03.200 I am not successful in the dame category, in the 3:18:03.520 --> 3:18:05.920 category the dame category. 3:18:07.400 --> 3:18:10.440 When you said people like you like dame, I am 3:18:10.520 --> 3:18:15.160 successful in the the category of like I can't believe 3:18:15.200 --> 3:18:15.920 this nigga did that. 3:18:16.840 --> 3:18:18.760 I am not in the success I'm not in the 3:18:18.840 --> 3:18:22.360 category of like Illuminati, this, that and the third. 3:18:22.920 --> 3:18:26.000 I went past all of those things. I just want 3:18:26.040 --> 3:18:27.920 you to know that I don't wanna. I don't wanna. 3:18:28.120 --> 3:18:32.080 I don't wanna be mistaken by the guy who did well, 3:18:32.760 --> 3:18:34.680 who came from hip hop, who's stuck in that? 3:18:35.160 --> 3:18:39.440 No? Mm well, I guess the segue is, is is 3:18:39.560 --> 3:18:46.400 there an Illuminati? No? That's bullshit. No, No, that part 3:18:46.520 --> 3:18:49.039 is bullshit. I so want you to know that I've 3:18:49.520 --> 3:18:54.080 that I don't want that thing of those things to 3:18:54.920 --> 3:19:01.280 distort the truth. The truth of the matter is those 3:19:01.320 --> 3:19:06.360 are just like speed bumps doing the right thing. 3:19:08.320 --> 3:19:14.000 No Illumini, those are fake words. Man, there's no Illumina. 3:19:14.120 --> 3:19:16.680 There's no gathering of people saying we're gonna do this. 3:19:17.400 --> 3:19:23.000 There's no version of like like no, no, no, I 3:19:23.160 --> 3:19:28.280 never even never even call me for that party. I 3:19:28.600 --> 3:19:29.480 attend that party. 3:19:31.120 --> 3:19:46.640 I believe that Earth game like D and master P 3:19:47.120 --> 3:19:50.960 and two short and E forty and this that and 3:19:51.000 --> 3:19:52.080 the third, and you keep. 3:19:52.000 --> 3:19:59.520 Going, we're pushing something that's bigger than us forward, and 3:19:59.640 --> 3:20:02.879 all we hope is that at one point somebody says, 3:20:02.920 --> 3:20:06.280 these are the guys who pushed it. But while we're 3:20:06.360 --> 3:20:08.320 pushing it, we'd have no idea for We're going to 3:20:08.360 --> 3:20:11.600 have to get credit for it. I go to San Francist, 3:20:11.680 --> 3:20:12.360 see forty. 3:20:12.480 --> 3:20:16.000 It's like how much money I. 3:20:16.080 --> 3:20:19.000 Made or how much money forty made, or it doesn't 3:20:19.040 --> 3:20:24.200 even reflected our conversation. I see Chamellionaire was telling me 3:20:24.240 --> 3:20:28.400 a story the other day that was ridiculously fantastic. I 3:20:28.480 --> 3:20:33.400 don't know, when you're pushing something forward that's something that's 3:20:33.440 --> 3:20:37.720 bigger than you, you removed yourself from the equation, and 3:20:37.800 --> 3:20:38.640 you keep doing. 3:20:38.520 --> 3:20:39.039 That one thing. 3:20:40.680 --> 3:20:43.360 So when you say, oh, he's from Queens this, I'm 3:20:43.400 --> 3:20:53.640 pushing Queen's Oakland, Memphis, Houston, Dallas, all that shit, Compton, 3:20:53.840 --> 3:20:54.280 all that shit. 3:20:54.360 --> 3:20:55.640 I'm pushing all that shit forward. 3:20:55.920 --> 3:20:59.240 But mind you, he said Chameleionaire. So I think that's 3:20:59.280 --> 3:21:01.880 a lesson to be learned as well. People haven't heard 3:21:01.959 --> 3:21:04.680 Kamillion in the entertainment space. 3:21:04.879 --> 3:21:10.080 Communionare is a smart guy. He's been in entrepreneur entrepreneurship. 3:21:14.520 --> 3:21:17.720 I follow communion I feel it, and I don't care 3:21:18.280 --> 3:21:23.160 about that part. You're smart, you're talented. Let's push culture forward. 3:21:23.480 --> 3:21:26.640 That's what this show is. That's why I'm here. Drink Champions, 3:21:26.760 --> 3:21:30.800 And you may think you're doing something that's like uh drinking. 3:21:31.440 --> 3:21:35.840 You guys are pushing culture flowing. Man, you guys are doing. 3:21:37.120 --> 3:21:38.480 That's what you're doing. That's why I'm here. 3:21:38.480 --> 3:21:41.720 I'm not. All the other practs of it are meaningless. 3:21:42.480 --> 3:21:45.280 The part that's the most meaningful is that if you 3:21:45.440 --> 3:21:51.200 come here you say something, the world may actually hear 3:21:51.280 --> 3:21:53.879 it and actually do something as a. 3:21:53.920 --> 3:21:57.200 Result of it. Well I don't, I'm not. I don't 3:21:57.240 --> 3:22:00.480 need to be here to be hot, they became get hot. 3:22:01.720 --> 3:22:06.400 I don't do that. No, no, no, no, no no 3:22:07.280 --> 3:22:07.680 get hot. 3:22:08.200 --> 3:22:08.240 No. 3:22:08.440 --> 3:22:11.400 But stout. The only part that we want to correct 3:22:11.440 --> 3:22:13.920 you is is because we want to respect. 3:22:13.640 --> 3:22:17.440 Our culture, our coach is the only thing that I 3:22:17.560 --> 3:22:21.320 could only be disappointed in hip hop is when people 3:22:21.440 --> 3:22:24.120 get old and hip hop and people don't want to 3:22:24.240 --> 3:22:29.400 respect him. I just can't allow him, Like I can't 3:22:29.400 --> 3:22:32.800 allow that, Like I can't allow brother. 3:22:33.240 --> 3:22:34.600 I just can't. I just can't. 3:22:34.920 --> 3:22:36.720 I have to feel like I feel like nah I 3:22:36.720 --> 3:22:38.840 should be respected for the breast of his life. I 3:22:38.879 --> 3:22:40.840 feel like Jay should be respected for the rest of 3:22:40.959 --> 3:22:43.400 his life. And guess what, I'm gonna fuck y'all up 3:22:43.480 --> 3:22:46.080 right now. I feel like Javel the damage is even 3:22:46.520 --> 3:22:51.200 respect man, but maybe not respect us now his home. 3:22:51.560 --> 3:22:52.560 But you know what I'm saying. 3:22:52.600 --> 3:22:56.760 But he still should be respected like we should our culture. 3:22:57.680 --> 3:23:02.520 Why why don't we like to think about rock and roll? 3:23:03.120 --> 3:23:05.960 Is they always respect? 3:23:06.480 --> 3:23:10.840 What was the guy? I had Carross Wimmers in my office. 3:23:11.360 --> 3:23:15.440 He was it when he was there. Yeah, those are 3:23:15.480 --> 3:23:18.800 my guys. You look at my brother. I got him. 3:23:19.480 --> 3:23:21.520 So Carross one came to my office and we were talking. 3:23:22.160 --> 3:23:22.760 This is rich. 3:23:22.800 --> 3:23:28.080 Stop this is chtop because of the office. I meet 3:23:28.160 --> 3:23:34.080 him and Chris says the man that he was homeless, 3:23:34.920 --> 3:23:46.400 going like this, mm hmm. He's beating this on the wall. 3:23:46.680 --> 3:23:49.800 And the guy who was hearing this is a guy 3:23:49.879 --> 3:23:53.600 who works in the homeless facility and that's Scotland Rock. 3:23:54.080 --> 3:23:58.000 And that's how they made the bridges of him. He 3:23:58.200 --> 3:24:00.600 was homeless when he made the record, No, he was, 3:24:00.720 --> 3:24:06.600 he was crazy. He's telling you this. He's a homeless 3:24:06.640 --> 3:24:11.760 guy begging against the wall. And the guy who has 3:24:11.879 --> 3:24:19.800 the big says, who the fuck is doing that? 3:24:21.280 --> 3:24:24.480 And then those guys make the bridges over and they 3:24:24.840 --> 3:24:28.760 sell the rights to that song to a company who 3:24:28.879 --> 3:24:30.039 distributes porn. 3:24:32.520 --> 3:24:33.000 You know what, I have. 3:24:34.760 --> 3:24:38.560 Stops childhood right there, you're telling. 3:24:38.520 --> 3:24:45.480 Us, and you know what, because they can't get out 3:24:46.280 --> 3:24:54.880 and when the song finally gets out through this porn distributions. Okay, no, no, 3:24:55.320 --> 3:25:03.039 it was a poor company put out Buggie down reducta. Yes, the. 3:25:05.640 --> 3:25:10.039 Yeah, they didn't get a record there. That's how these 3:25:10.080 --> 3:25:17.120 things gone. The beginning and the innovation of everything has 3:25:17.280 --> 3:25:24.480 to pay damages to people who don't understand, people who 3:25:24.480 --> 3:25:26.840 don't believe it, and all. 3:25:26.720 --> 3:25:30.920 Of the other altercations of what means to go forward. 3:25:31.680 --> 3:25:32.080 That's all. 3:25:32.440 --> 3:25:36.240 It's no big deal. He's a homeless guy. He was 3:25:36.280 --> 3:25:42.879 shipping on em C shan when he was homeless. Ask him, 3:25:43.320 --> 3:25:43.840 he'll tell you. 3:25:46.920 --> 3:25:54.560 Yes, Chris, he was homeless. If you and he no, 3:25:54.920 --> 3:26:00.280 I'm seeing from him he was homeless, couldn't. I'm going 3:26:00.800 --> 3:26:01.760 he kept hearing this ship. 3:26:01.800 --> 3:26:04.440 He's in there and he's doing He's like, it's tight 3:26:04.520 --> 3:26:05.160 for the proms. 3:26:05.879 --> 3:26:13.000 Yeah, this guy and he's homeless. Tell these guys need 3:26:13.040 --> 3:26:15.720 the whole thing, right. These guys were not fucking around. 3:26:17.080 --> 3:26:18.600 These guys are the real guys. Man. 3:26:18.760 --> 3:26:21.760 So now you, as a person that's an innovative hippie, 3:26:23.640 --> 3:26:26.960 you see how much intricate they were in their rhymes 3:26:27.040 --> 3:26:28.320 and how they put it together. 3:26:29.040 --> 3:26:33.959 And now you're still like the market genius. And now 3:26:35.760 --> 3:26:38.560 I know you as a person who started from kidding 3:26:38.600 --> 3:26:38.920 the play. 3:26:39.480 --> 3:26:43.119 And now you see these new guys because they ever 3:26:43.320 --> 3:26:45.439 bother you that they're not doing. 3:26:45.680 --> 3:26:48.760 The same work that you've seen these people doing back then. 3:26:50.760 --> 3:26:52.400 Well you're just still like the fuck it, I'm gonna 3:26:52.400 --> 3:26:55.199 get the bread. It's not even about the bread. 3:26:55.240 --> 3:26:57.920 I see it, I see the guy, I see parents, 3:26:58.520 --> 3:27:02.160 I see love, I see the difference between how you 3:27:02.280 --> 3:27:06.640 grew up and what matters to you versus what matters 3:27:06.680 --> 3:27:06.959 to them. 3:27:07.040 --> 3:27:09.280 I don't, I don't. I don't even think about it 3:27:09.400 --> 3:27:09.600 like that. 3:27:10.840 --> 3:27:14.920 No, no, no, I was a cool herk when I 3:27:15.000 --> 3:27:15.320 cut you. 3:27:15.440 --> 3:27:19.000 I was in cool hirt fucking six months ago. Nobody 3:27:19.040 --> 3:27:24.120 even talks to cool Heart actually think I was with 3:27:24.360 --> 3:27:28.240 cool Hirk for I was. I was with cool Work 3:27:28.760 --> 3:27:34.440 talking to make sure you know how hard it is 3:27:34.600 --> 3:27:36.840 that famous Coolhork. You even know who norig is? 3:27:37.360 --> 3:27:40.440 Yeah, but you know what, No, stop, you know hard 3:27:40.480 --> 3:27:42.400 it is for cool Work. Don't even know who he 3:27:42.680 --> 3:27:46.120 is or you know who you are. That's cool hurt. 3:27:48.560 --> 3:27:52.840 You don't even about you from what you did. 3:27:56.959 --> 3:28:04.400 Cool Heart is not even talking right, Cool cool her 3:28:04.720 --> 3:28:11.440 barely talks to me. You he's not talking to me right. 3:28:12.680 --> 3:28:13.800 I speak to Dapper Dad. 3:28:13.840 --> 3:28:16.840 I speak the cool Hurt because I love what they 3:28:16.920 --> 3:28:21.320 did and whatever what happens to me. The cool the 3:28:21.440 --> 3:28:26.200 fucking Dapa, dang Gucci deal, your motherfucking writing to me, 3:28:26.800 --> 3:28:30.440 talked about that they gotta take that man goes on. 3:28:31.280 --> 3:28:31.959 Let me just stop. 3:28:32.000 --> 3:28:37.120 I can't believe how long this conversation's that's because I. 3:28:39.520 --> 3:28:43.640 Believe if I really told its first started, I feel 3:28:43.680 --> 3:28:46.520 like you first started and you said you've seen something 3:28:46.520 --> 3:28:47.400 about Dapper Dam. 3:28:47.760 --> 3:28:50.920 They got posted it was a It wasn't even Dabadam. 3:28:51.080 --> 3:28:55.600 You posted a lout a tone sure that Dapper Dan 3:28:55.879 --> 3:28:58.439 actually designed, and I'm not correct. 3:28:58.320 --> 3:29:03.720 You saying correct. You jacked me earlier. For you you've 3:29:03.720 --> 3:29:04.480 seen the whole ship. 3:29:05.400 --> 3:29:06.840 If you knew my ship was right. 3:29:06.879 --> 3:29:10.040 I just want you to know I respect you and 3:29:10.200 --> 3:29:13.800 I wanted to be sent. You've seen that. Yeah, we 3:29:14.000 --> 3:29:18.520 have to go. Even people was like he's good style. 3:29:22.959 --> 3:29:29.480 This ain't no free lyrics. The thing was we seen that. 3:29:32.280 --> 3:29:35.600 M hm, where good too? 3:29:35.720 --> 3:29:40.199 About niggas jack this man, this man is a legend. 3:29:40.360 --> 3:29:45.400 Dapper Dadda Dan is a legend. Dapper Dan is the 3:29:45.520 --> 3:29:50.640 reason why everybody wears Gucci and Louis Baitan and everything 3:29:50.720 --> 3:29:53.160 to this day. You don't have to know why, and 3:29:53.280 --> 3:29:54.800 you don't have to. Don't argue with me, don't be 3:29:54.920 --> 3:29:58.200 like fuck him and fuck you and you're old, and 3:29:58.720 --> 3:29:59.240 don't listen. 3:29:59.640 --> 3:30:03.000 I'm and this guy was doing everything. This guy was 3:30:03.080 --> 3:30:04.320 taking his ship and making. 3:30:05.680 --> 3:30:10.680 Sweatpants fitting, sweatshirts fitting, putting Louis vuittand and mcm and 3:30:10.800 --> 3:30:14.280 lash niggas cars. He was putting together an outfit for 3:30:14.400 --> 3:30:19.800 drug dealers and we all as droppers and then we 3:30:19.920 --> 3:30:24.720 copy drug dealers. He did it, and then they shut 3:30:24.840 --> 3:30:25.160 him down. 3:30:26.480 --> 3:30:27.280 What do you mean by that? 3:30:27.440 --> 3:30:31.879 They shut him down because Mike Tyson beat up. Mike 3:30:31.959 --> 3:30:35.400 Tyson beat up a boxer. Mike Tyson whipped the nigga 3:30:35.440 --> 3:30:37.400 in the ring for the money and then beat the 3:30:37.480 --> 3:30:37.880 nigga up. 3:30:37.879 --> 3:30:41.280 In real life, this dream mich greed. 3:30:41.320 --> 3:30:42.400 Let's greed's great. 3:30:43.240 --> 3:30:51.760 And in the world realized what is this place that 3:30:51.879 --> 3:30:54.519 people go to at night? And Bobby Ground. 3:30:56.000 --> 3:31:00.760 Sniff and Coke's about the cocaine stories saying Bobby Brown. 3:31:00.879 --> 3:31:01.800 Somebody thought that's wrong. 3:31:02.400 --> 3:31:04.760 I shouldn't say Bobby Brown is stepping coke because you 3:31:04.840 --> 3:31:08.160 thought he was sniffing something else. No, you thought he 3:31:08.200 --> 3:31:11.480 was sniffing coke. I just said it, Bobby Brown was 3:31:11.520 --> 3:31:21.320 sniffing coke. Bobby Brown is hitting you out with the 3:31:21.360 --> 3:31:22.119 Bobby jaw. 3:31:25.040 --> 3:31:29.680 Way before birthday, Murder had a birdie. Ain't didn't have it. No, No, 3:31:30.320 --> 3:31:31.600 he had a song of murd. 3:31:33.400 --> 3:31:33.640 Love. 3:31:34.680 --> 3:31:39.680 He did something. His jaw was like this before that, 3:31:40.200 --> 3:31:44.840 way before that, I don't know you're talking about. So 3:31:45.000 --> 3:31:48.160 did Dapper Dan is doing this and they come in 3:31:48.280 --> 3:31:51.600 on him. How do you have Mike Tyson beating up 3:31:51.680 --> 3:31:56.560 niggas the heavyweight champion in the world. Well, he used 3:31:56.600 --> 3:31:59.960 to explain it. He can't explain it. He shut him. 3:32:00.080 --> 3:32:04.560 Now they shut down Dappa Dad, but he may leave 3:32:04.600 --> 3:32:11.960 it time in Gucci at mcn everything that young urban 3:32:12.400 --> 3:32:18.240 black Latinos niggas. None of us could fit a size too. 3:32:19.360 --> 3:32:21.440 I may be bigger than all y'all niggas, but none 3:32:21.480 --> 3:32:25.040 of y'all could fit a size too. They were making 3:32:25.120 --> 3:32:28.879 sise twos. He was making custom made sweatsuits for all 3:32:28.920 --> 3:32:31.080 of us, and they shut them down. 3:32:31.800 --> 3:32:35.240 And I figured out twenty five thirty years later, we're 3:32:35.240 --> 3:32:37.000 gonna get it back. And now we get it back, 3:32:37.640 --> 3:32:39.440 and then we open up a Dappa Dan store and 3:32:39.480 --> 3:32:45.960 Gucci in Harlem Gucci, So we're using sop all of 3:32:46.000 --> 3:32:49.680 the prints from eighty two to eighty five. That's what 3:32:49.760 --> 3:32:54.160 we're doing. We're making Dapa damn shit, and that's what 3:32:54.240 --> 3:32:54.880 we're gonna do it. 3:32:55.000 --> 3:33:02.160 This is as a person, like as a person just 3:33:02.240 --> 3:33:05.360 looking from the outside, and I felt like you went 3:33:05.800 --> 3:33:09.199 crazy on Instagram at first because they. 3:33:09.240 --> 3:33:12.720 Had actually had a Louire baton. Did I go do 3:33:12.840 --> 3:33:16.440 that kind of insta heart? Did I? I don't want 3:33:16.440 --> 3:33:23.200 to do that hard JB. Yeah, yeah, you went home? 3:33:24.600 --> 3:33:25.200 What did I do? 3:33:25.840 --> 3:33:27.720 This is what I really wish I would wish I 3:33:27.760 --> 3:33:28.400 had't your number. 3:33:28.600 --> 3:33:33.120 You gotta get this on your chance, like because it 3:33:33.320 --> 3:33:35.880 was like it was something man, it was like it 3:33:36.000 --> 3:33:38.039 was a Luton, it was a girl. 3:33:38.560 --> 3:33:39.279 It wasn't. 3:33:41.040 --> 3:33:44.720 I wanted to be saying sorry, you know what I 3:33:44.760 --> 3:33:46.680 don't want to be. I want to be the guy. 3:33:50.080 --> 3:33:52.039 I want to I want to be a guy who 3:33:52.200 --> 3:33:53.760 I want to move country for. I don't want to 3:33:53.800 --> 3:33:58.360 be disrespectful. And if I was wrong and where a person, 3:33:59.440 --> 3:34:01.039 I didn't want to do that. I'm not gonna let 3:34:01.120 --> 3:34:04.240 this guy get robbed. I'm not gonna let you get robbed. 3:34:05.480 --> 3:34:07.960 I'm not gonna let you get robbed. Somebody starts this 3:34:08.120 --> 3:34:11.040 thing right now. They put three guys here and do 3:34:11.160 --> 3:34:13.600 a version of this show right and all of a 3:34:13.640 --> 3:34:18.560 sudden there's Orlando Bloom and fucking Tom Cruise. 3:34:19.120 --> 3:34:22.360 Some other guy. Goddamn I one time Cruise taking my show. 3:34:23.760 --> 3:34:29.040 I mean saying that we're doing drink Champs I'd be like, Yo, 3:34:29.120 --> 3:34:32.119 that ship is fucked up. They rob them niggas. Who 3:34:32.160 --> 3:34:36.360 has that original idea drinking and talking. I don't like 3:34:36.480 --> 3:34:37.280 that type of ship. 3:34:37.600 --> 3:34:41.520 That's right, and my job is to never let that 3:34:41.680 --> 3:34:45.640 type of ship sustain itself without me saying I can't 3:34:45.760 --> 3:34:46.160 stop it. 3:34:46.360 --> 3:34:50.000 That's fine, but I'm gonna definitely say something about it. 3:34:50.800 --> 3:34:54.600 It's my job. The success of this show is not 3:34:54.720 --> 3:34:57.560 my job. The fact that no one can rob you 3:34:57.920 --> 3:34:59.680 of what you guys invented this my job. 3:35:00.200 --> 3:35:10.520 God damn split. And that's the part. Listen into the show. Okay, 3:35:12.560 --> 3:35:15.440 I'm not talking the more. No, no, I'm not talking now. 3:35:17.480 --> 3:35:20.080 I gotta in the show style this is please put 3:35:20.080 --> 3:35:22.720 it back in. Not doing that. I gotta. I gotta 3:35:23.440 --> 3:35:26.040 to big you up, to big you up. I have 3:35:26.160 --> 3:35:28.480 to big you up. I have to big you up. Listen, listen. 3:35:28.680 --> 3:35:29.480 Let me tell you something. 3:35:31.040 --> 3:35:34.080 In the hip hop we have to start saluting the people. 3:35:34.160 --> 3:35:40.400 That's more behind the scenes people will only salute damn got. 3:35:44.600 --> 3:35:48.280 So we love you, Stout, thank you for coming ahead, 3:35:48.760 --> 3:35:52.240 thank you, thank you, thank you. 3:35:53.120 --> 3:35:55.680 Don't don't don't was like, damn, I don't know what 3:35:55.959 --> 3:35:58.800 Style invited me to his war right. 3:35:59.080 --> 3:36:02.720 He really absolutely, he's good. Man, he's good. 3:36:03.160 --> 3:36:07.080 That's a great person, that lessendary. 3:36:08.840 --> 3:36:11.440 Guyas listen, everybody you good. 3:36:12.120 --> 3:36:13.440 I'll take a shot of your ship. 3:36:13.760 --> 3:36:16.720 Whatever you pick up. Everybody's good. I will tell you 3:36:17.040 --> 3:36:19.039 I am thankful. Yeah. 3:36:19.120 --> 3:36:22.920 I love what you guys are doing being here watching 3:36:22.959 --> 3:36:24.200 this whole thing come together. 3:36:24.280 --> 3:36:27.680 This ship is though. Then let's let's all pick up ourselves. Man, 3:36:32.959 --> 3:36:36.000 I got this, I got this. I love the job. 3:36:37.440 --> 3:36:40.520 I love the job. My job is pushing forward. I 3:36:40.600 --> 3:36:42.680 love the job. That's my job. 3:36:43.480 --> 3:36:44.200 That's my job. 3:36:44.520 --> 3:36:46.840 I want to tell the fucking front you gotta stop. 3:36:48.040 --> 3:36:53.879 You get you guys are letting get him everything mustache 3:36:53.920 --> 3:36:58.119 in Miami. Mustache ain't right. You're really. 3:37:00.400 --> 3:37:07.720 Keep going, Jungle told me brother. He texted me style 3:37:07.879 --> 3:37:11.800 fit stot. You know how easily I can killed your front? 3:37:12.080 --> 3:37:16.240 Front is good? Is good? I don't know where's this going. 3:37:16.720 --> 3:37:26.360 This queen ship, queen ship. This this is what we do. 3:37:26.480 --> 3:37:33.160 It's queens. Yeah, why don't we? We we aiming a 3:37:33.240 --> 3:37:36.400 peaceful him in the piece of Style. 3:37:37.000 --> 3:37:40.560 I appreciate everything that we could do as people and 3:37:40.720 --> 3:37:41.760 people keep it together. 3:37:42.160 --> 3:37:44.680 I appreciate what you did for hip hop. I appreciate 3:37:44.760 --> 3:37:45.359 with track. 3:37:45.280 --> 3:37:49.760 Masters less, I appreciate how you are as people, and 3:37:49.920 --> 3:37:53.480 we want to salute our legends. There's not one show 3:37:53.640 --> 3:37:56.280 in the world you look at First Take you look 3:37:56.320 --> 3:37:59.119 at all this other ship these guys big up? Who 3:37:59.480 --> 3:38:02.560 is not even First Take Off? Our TNT with Charles 3:38:02.640 --> 3:38:07.880 Balkley and what's the ship? Kenny Smith? Kenny Smith, Kenny Smith, 3:38:07.920 --> 3:38:08.520 what's that show? 3:38:08.959 --> 3:38:11.960 Okay, we didn't have that in the hip hop. So 3:38:12.080 --> 3:38:13.280 that's what I wanted to big up. 3:38:13.320 --> 3:38:15.199 I wanted to big up the people that I respect, 3:38:15.520 --> 3:38:18.000 people that I love, the people that put people in 3:38:18.160 --> 3:38:20.959 positions and make shit work from there. 3:38:21.320 --> 3:38:25.400 And that's what I wanted to do. We never know 3:38:25.520 --> 3:38:26.040 what's on it. 3:38:26.520 --> 3:38:29.160 Yeah, we're like firefighters. Yeah we got to call. 3:38:29.520 --> 3:38:32.000 We just do what the fun. We gotta the truth, 3:38:32.200 --> 3:38:35.160 That's what we gotta do. But guess what I wanted 3:38:35.200 --> 3:38:37.360 you to know, in case you ever didn't know it, 3:38:37.720 --> 3:38:42.040 I respect, I really do. Face to face. 3:38:44.959 --> 3:38:45.360 I knew. 3:38:46.040 --> 3:38:48.360 I knew that every problem I ever had with you 3:38:48.560 --> 3:38:50.240 was because I was a young person. 3:38:51.440 --> 3:38:53.320 And that's the reason why I came to you and 3:38:53.480 --> 3:38:56.279 I talked to you and I told you I'm sorry 3:38:57.160 --> 3:39:00.360 because as a man I knew I wasn't a man. 3:39:02.000 --> 3:39:04.400 I knew I wasn't a man, but I had a 3:39:04.520 --> 3:39:08.560 problem with say so that has nothing to do with nothing. 3:39:09.240 --> 3:39:13.920 That was good, That was good everybody. 3:39:14.120 --> 3:39:16.160 No, I want to do it before of everybody, because 3:39:16.200 --> 3:39:19.199 I'm a man, and that's what a man does. 3:39:19.360 --> 3:39:22.560 When a man recognizes what happens in anything. 3:39:23.160 --> 3:39:29.400 And you've done amazing things in hip hop, you continue 3:39:29.480 --> 3:39:30.640 to do amazing things. 3:39:30.480 --> 3:39:34.360 That I'm at seven and you're not. I'm not even stopped, 3:39:34.879 --> 3:39:38.480 not even stop. And you know what. This is what 3:39:38.640 --> 3:39:43.440 we do in drink chaps. We continue to respect people. 3:39:46.360 --> 3:39:48.280 Your first time, this. 3:39:48.400 --> 3:39:51.720 Guy right here, I love him that he's the fucking 3:39:51.879 --> 3:39:55.240 man you had you sure you had everything off. 3:39:55.680 --> 3:40:00.800 You want to say something, you know they were better 3:40:00.800 --> 3:40:03.440 than we got that. We got that. No, you got everything. 3:40:04.000 --> 3:40:06.160 You obviously didn't hear what I said. It's not your 3:40:06.240 --> 3:40:08.480 first time here, because this is. 3:40:08.600 --> 3:40:10.680 A horror of them. Will come back. No, No, and 3:40:10.800 --> 3:40:14.120 you will, and you will say you say, these people 3:40:14.240 --> 3:40:15.920 like you got it. He's never coming back. 3:40:16.959 --> 3:40:20.560 No, I think he will, like stout safe. 3:40:20.879 --> 3:40:23.440 We kept him safe. I gave her good his I 3:40:23.480 --> 3:40:26.200 can't even believe that, you know what and this. 3:40:27.920 --> 3:40:30.039 Keep what's not get first on him here. 3:40:32.160 --> 3:40:36.760 He's thinking about it. He's thinking about it. Look, this 3:40:37.000 --> 3:40:39.640 man with the bed is looking like listen, don't go 3:40:39.720 --> 3:40:41.480 into everybody. Territory's great. 3:40:41.959 --> 3:40:42.880 Did you know what he said? 3:40:43.080 --> 3:40:47.400 He said that Eminem bodied jay Z. He was so long, 3:40:48.520 --> 3:40:49.680 you don't have the thing that he didn't know. 3:40:51.800 --> 3:40:54.200 I don't have his mic on what's the five nine 3:40:54.240 --> 3:40:56.040 already and Eminem already had the song. 3:40:57.959 --> 3:40:59.320 I heard that. I'm not talking about that. 3:41:02.240 --> 3:41:07.040 As deficients. You you don't do everything else, everything else 3:41:07.080 --> 3:41:07.280 don