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Speaker 1: another episode of The Buck Sexton Show Deep Dive Session
Speaker 1: with the asked for the greatly anticipated Rogan o'hanley, best
Speaker 1: known to many of you as DC drain No. He
Speaker 1: is DC Draino on Twitter, on Instagram, on all the
Speaker 1: places where he shares his memes, his commentary, and his
Speaker 1: fighting for America. Rogan, which I have to remember to
Speaker 1: call you because you'd not actually call you DC Drado,
Speaker 1: but Rogan, you call me Drado. That's fine, Draino. That's cool.
Speaker 1: Good to see you, man. How are you. How's everything going.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I've got my Florida Man shirt on
Speaker 1: to honor the great land that we live in. But
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on, brother, Thank you. Well,
Speaker 1: you know I'm I'm a Florida transplant as well, and
Speaker 1: I just look like a guy who threw in a
Speaker 1: T shirt after waking up from a nap, which I
Speaker 1: also feel like is very Florida in its own way.
Speaker 1: There was a great meme. It's a what's something that's
Speaker 1: classy if you're rich, but trashy if you're poor. And
Speaker 1: the guy goes Florida. I saw that. Are you a
Speaker 1: wide range? Are you active on on? You know, there's
Speaker 1: whole many, so many things you saw. You saw Trump recently.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that. You know, how
Speaker 1: is the Trump camp doing right now? What do you
Speaker 1: think about twenty twenty forty? Are you sure Biden, for example,
Speaker 1: is going to run. We've got He's Palestine to discuss
Speaker 1: a whole whole range of things that I want to
Speaker 1: get today with you. But TikTok, you know, they they're
Speaker 1: moving closer and closer it seems to actually banning it.
Speaker 1: Are you active on TikTok? Are are you an anti
Speaker 1: TikTok guy? Because you know you've built this massive presence
Speaker 1: millions of people on Instagram and other platforms. What do
Speaker 1: you think about TikTok? So when TikTok first came out,
Speaker 1: I jumped all over it. I quickly felt very uncomfortable
Speaker 1: and far too old for TikTok, And it was tough
Speaker 1: to relay my type of content, which is very anti
Speaker 1: Deep State, to such a young, specifically young audience. You know,
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you get such a wide range, but especially
Speaker 1: in people in their thirties and forties. For TikTok, it
Speaker 1: was tough. So I got like two hundred thousand followers
Speaker 1: on there, but then I kept getting censored and it
Speaker 1: was the most censored platform out of all of them,
Speaker 1: which is saying something, and so I gave up. I
Speaker 1: didn't post for like two years, and I just deleted
Speaker 1: it right around the Chinese spy balloon incident because I
Speaker 1: was like, how am I gonna, you know, talk about
Speaker 1: the surveillance balloon while I still have the surveillance app
Speaker 1: on my phone? So I am, you know, completely off TikTok.
Speaker 1: And I guess, why do they even need the balloons?
Speaker 1: If everyone's you're carrying around the surveillance balloon in your hand.
Speaker 1: At least that's what they're tal on us. That's what
Speaker 1: That's what TikTok actually is. I'd say I like to
Speaker 1: watch TikTok sometimes just because if you're into quick recipes,
Speaker 1: grilling meat, homemade knives and tools, but particularly there's a
Speaker 1: lot of blade smiths on TikTok, Like there's cool content
Speaker 1: on there. Unfortunately, there has nothing to do with China.
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, but apparently it's carrying around a spy
Speaker 1: balloon in your hand, which is probably not a good thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a very addictive platform. I used to,
Speaker 1: you know, look at it a fair amount. I really
Speaker 1: haven't looked at that much in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: But I am actually very pro banning TikTok. For one,
Speaker 1: it will get rid of a you know, Chinese spy
Speaker 1: platform in the United States. And two, all those people
Speaker 1: are going to disperse across other platforms where you and
Speaker 1: I are far more prominent and where we enjoy those
Speaker 1: platforms more. And so I think it actually helps um
Speaker 1: the other platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if the people
Speaker 1: leading the charge against it are Facebook, Google, you know, uh, Snapchat, etc.
Speaker 1: Because they're such a strong Ti TikTok is definitely beating
Speaker 1: all the other platforms. You know, Snapchat for a little
Speaker 1: while was the kind of young, you know, the next
Speaker 1: generation platform that was really scaring Facebook and all that.
Speaker 1: But I think Snapchat has really has really fallen off. Also,
Speaker 1: this whole idea that people have of like, oh, you
Speaker 1: can take a photo or whatever incentive somebody and it
Speaker 1: disappears forever. No, it's actually not how the internet works.
Speaker 1: So you know this is you know, I think when
Speaker 1: people realized that some of the Snapchat features weren't really
Speaker 1: what they thought they were. Um, but beyond that, uh,
Speaker 1: now it's TikTok. I mean TikTok from what I can
Speaker 1: see from the data. And you know, Josh Holly was
Speaker 1: on our radio show recently talking about how he wants
Speaker 1: to ban social media for kids under sixteen. I mean,
Speaker 1: the more I look at this, the more I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I actually believe I don't think the twelve year
Speaker 1: old should be on social media. Why why would you
Speaker 1: want to be on social media as a twelve year old?
Speaker 1: You know why you wouldn't want unregulated discourse, meaning just
Speaker 1: like you're twelve year olds, you know, interacting with other
Speaker 1: twelve years you know, you want parent parental supervision around them, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you don't have kids yet. I
Speaker 1: don't have kids, you know what I mean? So so
Speaker 1: this notion that you should have not even just kids,
Speaker 1: but the global internet when you're twelve, eleven, ten, thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 1: I think I totally get it. Man. I think Josh
Speaker 1: Holly's I think he's right. Even if it's not a
Speaker 1: government mandate thing, we can get it, whether government should
Speaker 1: be mandating it or not. I don't think people should
Speaker 1: be letting their kids have social media at such a
Speaker 1: young age, just based on what we all know it
Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, I think as more science comes out
Speaker 1: about what it does to it, especially developing brain, I
Speaker 1: don't think adults should have access to social media on
Speaker 1: some days. Yeah, you know, even you know you or me.
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty strong minded person, but I mean I'll
Speaker 1: come across some stuff I'm like, what did I just watch?
Speaker 1: I mean, it will it will drastically affect my mood.
Speaker 1: But you know, for kids to not only be subjected
Speaker 1: to these types of images and videos and graphics, and
Speaker 1: then to also deal with the social ramifications of doing
Speaker 1: something in high school that was maybe embarrassing and just
Speaker 1: having this kind of group harassment campaign, I mean, look
Speaker 1: at harassment campaigns on Twitter, right, I mean obviously that's
Speaker 1: happening in high schools, and you know, kids kill themselves
Speaker 1: over this stuff. So I'm actually open to a band.
Speaker 1: Uh maybe not sixteen, maybe fourteen and under or something
Speaker 1: to maybe fifteen, I don't know, I think it's absolutely
Speaker 1: something that should be debated and there should be some
Speaker 1: limitation at a minimum. Look, I mean also, and I
Speaker 1: know this is part of of another another thread to
Speaker 1: the discussion too, but they often talk about how for
Speaker 1: for young girls it creates this completely unrealistic embody image issue.
Speaker 1: And you know, there're some there's some really horrifying statistics
Speaker 1: about how many young young women across the country have
Speaker 1: considered self harm um in the in the last year,
Speaker 1: and and there's a lot of psychological durests for young
Speaker 1: girls that as they measure this, as it's self reported,
Speaker 1: it has been getting worse and worse. I also think
Speaker 1: that for a lot of young men, and not even
Speaker 1: that young, but you know, guys up into their their teenagers,
Speaker 1: for example, they can also have I mean, the short
Speaker 1: way of putting this is that these guys that they're
Speaker 1: seeing who are who are like you know, these these
Speaker 1: physical specimens, the amount of steroid use, you know, tremblone, HGH,
Speaker 1: you know, TRT, all this stuff that goes into creating
Speaker 1: a lot of these uh, these persona accounts and social
Speaker 1: media like you know, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old guys
Speaker 1: and and guys. Honestly, a lot old that too need
Speaker 1: to know this stuff isn't real, folks, or at least
Speaker 1: there's there's a component to the reality that they're not
Speaker 1: aware of that I think can create real distortions. And
Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you see this too? There
Speaker 1: are whole accounts whe people are talking about how they
Speaker 1: use steroids just just for aesthetics. Yeah, no, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I mean people accused me of using steroids because I'm
Speaker 1: so jacked, and it's, you know, constant rumors I have
Speaker 1: to dispel. Um, I know it is you and liver King,
Speaker 1: and liver King's already gotten got so you better watch out. Rogan.
Speaker 1: I know, I I'm completely kidding, but um yeah, some
Speaker 1: people are only listening to other people. So just to
Speaker 1: your case for the podcast people, he was doing his
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Speaker 1: a is a hard throb for the lady who'll off
Speaker 1: the market now Mary like yours. Truly, I don't think
Speaker 1: wedding ring, I don't think. I don't think anybody believes
Speaker 1: either of us are taking steroids anyway, keep going, um
Speaker 1: and and so yeah, I mean there's there's clearly you know,
Speaker 1: toxic life styles uh that are portrayed there. And you know,
Speaker 1: again I'm not opposed to education and learning about things, UM,
Speaker 1: but I think I remember there were was it Steve
Speaker 1: Jobs or other Silicon Valley big wigs who basically said
Speaker 1: they would never allow their kids on social media until
Speaker 1: they're full grown adults. And it's like, what do they
Speaker 1: know that we don't know? You know, these things are
Speaker 1: designed to be addictive, um, and we're learning that not
Speaker 1: only social media, but things like porn and other things.
Speaker 1: They really do change your your dopamine uh you know system,
Speaker 1: basically your your reward system, and it leads you down
Speaker 1: to depressing paths um and just just a bad, unhealthy lifestyle.
Speaker 1: So uh, like I said, I do think there needs
Speaker 1: to be an absolute limitation for younger kids U. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I I think TikTok should be banned just
Speaker 1: by virtue of the fact that China is our greatest
Speaker 1: national threat. And you know, it's very clear that their
Speaker 1: TikTok algorithms over there are designed to make their kids
Speaker 1: like fit and you know, aggressive and assertive and leaders.
Speaker 1: And the TikTok platform here is designed to promote all
Speaker 1: the woke ideologies and to ban and sense are all
Speaker 1: conservative ideologies. So you're just getting a funnel system of
Speaker 1: the future of America being steered by a foreign communist
Speaker 1: country's algorithm. And for that alone, I think it should
Speaker 1: be banned. Yeah, I'm a person who often tells people
Speaker 1: that I think it's really instructive to read. You know,
Speaker 1: the KGB archives were. If we're uncovered after the fall
Speaker 1: of the Wall, the Metroken archives, people will refer to
Speaker 1: it as and you can see the active measures and
Speaker 1: the different clandestine operations of Russian intelligence against the United
Speaker 1: States in a whole range of ways, much more pervasive
Speaker 1: than people learn in school. Much broader penetrations by the
Speaker 1: Communist Party of the United States were very real. The
Speaker 1: Red Scare was actually fear mongering in the wrong direction,
Speaker 1: as in telling people that it wasn't really happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: for God's sakes, they stole our nuclear technology. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the most sensitive stuff was targeted about the Soviets.
Speaker 1: If they could have convinced all of our children in
Speaker 1: our homes that they were one of thirty eight genders
Speaker 1: or whatever, and that masculinity was toxic, the Soviets would
Speaker 1: have had a field day with it. I mean they would,
Speaker 1: They would have absolutely loved what. Now, obviously the Chinese
Speaker 1: Communist Party is able to do as our near peer competitor.
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the censorship point through
Speaker 1: in a second. So I wonder how that's affected you.
Speaker 1: For example, you know, you're prolific on Instagram. You've got
Speaker 1: over two million Instagram followers, which is huge, and you know,
Speaker 1: and you're not a bikini model, so it means that
Speaker 1: you actually have to do content that people are interested
Speaker 1: in beyond just look at me. I'm really not that
Speaker 1: you're not you know, I'm sure you know the ladies,
Speaker 1: as I said, but you're doing a lot of content
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are seeing. I want to
Speaker 1: know what kind of censorship you're actually coming up against.
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Speaker 1: elon buys Twitter? Are you seeing a change? First of all,
Speaker 1: what do you think of how twitters coming along at
Speaker 1: this point? And have the other platforms gotten a little
Speaker 1: bit less censor crazy or are they still doing the
Speaker 1: same kind of stuff, Dad, and you're getting strikes, you're
Speaker 1: getting shadow banned all that. It's a good question. So
Speaker 1: first off, I just got my Twitter back after being
Speaker 1: banned for two years, So congratulations, by the way, welcome back,
Speaker 1: thank you. And you know, I've currently got a lawsuit.
Speaker 1: I'm represented by Harmat Dylan and we had our hearing
Speaker 1: in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals three months ago.
Speaker 1: So any day now we could wake up and there
Speaker 1: is a major ruling that could impact all of us
Speaker 1: because all big tech cases go through the Ninth Circuit.
Speaker 1: So we're not optimistic necessarily because the Ninth Circus Court
Speaker 1: of Appeals is a little bit leftist, not as leftist
Speaker 1: as it used to be, thank you to President Trump,
Speaker 1: but still leftists. And so then it's onto the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court after that. But you know, it ties in with
Speaker 1: the Twitter files. It was the state of California that
Speaker 1: requested that I'd be censored, and then I was banned
Speaker 1: for discussing election irregularities. I don't know what platform this
Speaker 1: will be played on, but I'll you know, people can
Speaker 1: fill in the blanks there. And yeah, so we had
Speaker 1: the smoking gun emails. We caught them. Thus far, My
Speaker 1: experience back on Twitter has been great, better than when
Speaker 1: I left off. It is a breath of fresh air
Speaker 1: to have so much freedom of speech being on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Instagram is very high least censored. They have the fact checkers,
Speaker 1: PolitiFact lead stories. UH there's there's at least ten other
Speaker 1: associated press. I got fact checked when there are Chinese
Speaker 1: tanks rolling down a street in front of their bank
Speaker 1: when people couldn't withdraw the money. I got fact checked
Speaker 1: when I posted that the next day by the Associated
Speaker 1: Press saying they talked with an employee nearby who said
Speaker 1: that it was a military training exercise, nothing to do
Speaker 1: with and it was written by like a Chinese author,
Speaker 1: and you know, based in Beijing or wherever. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the Chinese are censoring us. You're getting
Speaker 1: fined Qinwa State News agency over there. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: one that works for UH in any type of Chinese
Speaker 1: enterprise or Chinese office satellite office of a company that
Speaker 1: isn't a government agent. So of course it polit a
Speaker 1: fact I said, you know, Joe Biden is a child predator,
Speaker 1: and they fact checked that, saying that there's no evidence
Speaker 1: of any crimes he's committed against children. I mean, the
Speaker 1: lengths that they go to to protect the regime is insane,
Speaker 1: and so no, I have not noticed a decrease in
Speaker 1: the censorship on other platforms. However, I am optimistic that
Speaker 1: as Elon leads the way, we're starting to see copycat
Speaker 1: moves by these other big tech platforms. Two moves in particular,
Speaker 1: one firing a bunch of people. Elon was the first
Speaker 1: one to do it, and they all followed suit. And
Speaker 1: now Facebook and Instagram are going to allow you to
Speaker 1: buy a blue check, which I personally do not have
Speaker 1: this by having over two million followers, and it'll include
Speaker 1: customer service priority in the explore feature, So that's something
Speaker 1: they followed Elon's lead on. So I'm curious what else.
Speaker 1: Maybe the open source algorithm that Elon is promising, maybe
Speaker 1: showing why you are suspect ended or showing whether or
Speaker 1: not you have any shadow band applicable to your account.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll copy that stuff. So I do thank Elon overall.
Speaker 1: I mean I have been saying this to people for
Speaker 1: a while that only in social media it has it
Speaker 1: been somehow deemed Don't we know why? Because it's such
Speaker 1: a huge advantage for the left. And it's really the
Speaker 1: social media companies are certainly have a lot more money
Speaker 1: and are more powerful than any of the legacy media companies.
Speaker 1: And it's not even close, right, I mean, Google is
Speaker 1: arguably there what the three three wealthiest, three most powerful
Speaker 1: countries companies, Rather it could be a country on the planet,
Speaker 1: and you add some of the others in there as well.
Speaker 1: I mean that the amount of money that they have
Speaker 1: and the amount of reach they have is truly is
Speaker 1: truly mind blowing. But even beyond that, there's no other
Speaker 1: business where, you know, for example, with your credit card company,
Speaker 1: they couldn't be like, hey, sorry, we turned you over
Speaker 1: to collections and you're like, well why, Like what do
Speaker 1: I owe you? They're like, sorry, how much do I
Speaker 1: owe you? We can't tell you. All you know is
Speaker 1: you've been turned the collections in your card to shut down, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't accept that. That's been happened to
Speaker 1: people in social media for years now. You get, you
Speaker 1: get get emailitized, you get you know, and there's no explanation.
Speaker 1: They don't care. They just say sorry, we've decided and
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, I wish they said sorry. They say nothing.
Speaker 1: You just can't even sign in. No one responds to
Speaker 1: your emails. And that's it, and and it's it's it's wrong,
Speaker 1: and it will be illegal at some point because if
Speaker 1: you spend years and hundreds of thousands of dollars building
Speaker 1: up a following or a business and uh, it just
Speaker 1: gets taken out from you one day because of some
Speaker 1: arbitrary fact checker or some arbitrary application of their community guidelines,
Speaker 1: which are so broadly written that literally anything can be egal.
Speaker 1: It's just a form of fraud. It's just fraud. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're taking from people under false pretenses. It is um.
Speaker 1: I am again highly optimistic that my lawsuit will change
Speaker 1: things across the country. A. I'm represented by the best
Speaker 1: civil rights attorney in the country, Harmy Dylan b. We
Speaker 1: have seen in the Twitter files that the government is
Speaker 1: so directly intertwined with the censorship apparatus that it's indistinguishable
Speaker 1: between big tech. I mean, so many of the ex
Speaker 1: agents worked there and the coordination just exposing the Twitter
Speaker 1: files and that's just a tip of the iceberg. That's
Speaker 1: just Twitter. Imagine what's going on at Facebook, which is
Speaker 1: a much bigger company and more users and especially Google,
Speaker 1: so tip of the iceberg. And the problem is there's
Speaker 1: no recourse against this. Obviously Section to thirty protects them.
Speaker 1: But even my case, which was a First Amendment violation
Speaker 1: because the government said, hey, literally censored DC drain now
Speaker 1: and we have the email, and the judge, the federal
Speaker 1: judge in the Northern District of California, still said Nope,
Speaker 1: not enough to government collusion. I'm like, what is going
Speaker 1: on here? You know, I feel like I'm in the
Speaker 1: So the big tech is the most powerful force in
Speaker 1: nature on planet Earth. I would say, if you if
Speaker 1: you can silence the sitting president of the United States,
Speaker 1: what is more powerful than that? Only God? In my opinion, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I wonder if you'd agree with this. That
Speaker 1: The an argument I've made from the beginning of the
Speaker 1: pandemic is that the pandemic restrictions and everything that happened
Speaker 1: was only possible because everybody was carrying around these state
Speaker 1: collusion propaganda machines in their hands all the time, or
Speaker 1: you know, on their screens computers, smart TVs, etc. Like,
Speaker 1: the only way you could convince people that we haven't
Speaker 1: lost our minds as a society when there are little
Speaker 1: places little foot pads on the sidewalk in New York
Speaker 1: City outside to show people how far apart to stand
Speaker 1: in line before they go indoors to a grocery store
Speaker 1: where they're going to be just shoulder to shoulder. If
Speaker 1: the only way you could convince people that that's not
Speaker 1: insane is if you have a propaganda apparatus that includes
Speaker 1: social media twenty four to seven enforcement of the narrative, right,
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't just newspapers wouldn't have been enough. At
Speaker 1: least that's my thesis, Like just just the newspapers, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it. I completely agree, and you know,
Speaker 1: but for every measure, there's a countermeasure. And it was
Speaker 1: also a place for people like you and me and
Speaker 1: others to say, hey, this is crazy, right, And you know,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of people mentioned that because you
Speaker 1: feel they want you to feel isolated. They obviously were
Speaker 1: censoring so many people Harvard stand for doctors, anyone that
Speaker 1: questioned the narrative. But I've had people remark, you know,
Speaker 1: I knew it was crazy, but thanks to you know,
Speaker 1: your posts and just these comments sections everything, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel alone because it's like, oh, okay, few because remember
Speaker 1: we were all isolated and our houses. For the most part,
Speaker 1: people are too scared to travel, so they shut us
Speaker 1: down from bars, schools, everybody shut us down so we
Speaker 1: couldn't talk to each other and say, hey, this is
Speaker 1: all crazy, right, and then they distract you online. But
Speaker 1: I think one very interesting effect of all this is
Speaker 1: the explosion of Florida into a deep, you know, red
Speaker 1: state of which you are now a resident. And I
Speaker 1: think it is a very interesting phenomenon overall. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've certainly never seen anything. Because I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you more about that. Let's talk about the Florida,
Speaker 1: the Florida phenomenon, on the Florida Revolution. And you know,
Speaker 1: there are two very important Republican politicians who call Florida home,
Speaker 1: and one of them, our former president you had dinner
Speaker 1: with recently. You talked to him just a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I want to ask you about that too.
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Speaker 1: Mara Lago out on the patio, folks are gathered around.
Speaker 1: You're there with the one and only forty five. What
Speaker 1: can you tell us? It was incredible. I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of processing that, you know, I was even invited to that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. If you've ever been Tomorrow Lago,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely beautiful. You're basically it's a usable museum. It's,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the biggest houses in America, so lavish,
Speaker 1: gold plated everything. It was owned by the Post family,
Speaker 1: who was believed to be the richest woman in the
Speaker 1: world at the time. The Post you know, serial heiress,
Speaker 1: and Trump is actually really funny. So it's a social club,
Speaker 1: so you know, you'd pay a huge fee and you
Speaker 1: get to go there and have dinners and you know
Speaker 1: the pools and the events. Trump DJs with his iPad
Speaker 1: almost every night that he's there. He's out there grabbing dinner.
Speaker 1: He's got a cordoned off table amongst you know, ten
Speaker 1: or fifteen other tables, and it's a great menu, great food.
Speaker 1: But he'll he'll sit there while he's drinking his diet Coogan,
Speaker 1: eat his dinner with an iPad propped up, and he'll
Speaker 1: just pick different songs. And so while we're at dinner,
Speaker 1: he's like, Hey, you gotta hear this song by Elvis.
Speaker 1: So you like this song? You like Elvis, you like,
Speaker 1: listen to this song. It just and he DJ's the
Speaker 1: whole time. He's like, oh my gosh, Pavarotti. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you about Pavarotti. And then he'll play Pavarotti while
Speaker 1: telling about this time that he, you know, hired him
Speaker 1: to sing at some event in New York City. And
Speaker 1: he let me just say that Trump is in top form.
Speaker 1: He is well rested, he is very spirited, he's he's
Speaker 1: laughing a lot, he's sharp as attack. He knows. I
Speaker 1: think his policy videos have been very impressive adapting to
Speaker 1: the current times, with what we're facing. He's not just
Speaker 1: replaying the twenty sixteen glory days. He's adapting to what's
Speaker 1: going on now. He's anti ESG, he's anti woke, he's
Speaker 1: really fighting for free speech on the internet. He's you know,
Speaker 1: protecting parents' rights in schools and you know, so he's
Speaker 1: he's he's modernized his campaign and he is you know.
Speaker 1: That was kind of my biggest thing. I was like,
Speaker 1: how sharp is this guy? You know, I know he's
Speaker 1: getting a little older this he's on top of it.
Speaker 1: He's seems fifteen twenty years younger than Biden is currently,
Speaker 1: which I know isn't saying much because Biden is practically drooling.
Speaker 1: But it was an incredible dinner. We talked about literally everything.
Speaker 1: We're there for like three hours. I've never drank more
Speaker 1: diet coke in my life, but I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you're with has one does yeah, sure of course, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a drinking diet coke, rogan um draino. Yeah. Ken
Speaker 1: Trump win twenty twenty four, so I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: can win twenty twenty four without fixing election fraud. Um,
Speaker 1: I am slightly optimistic that we have fixed enough states
Speaker 1: where if they don't have a catastrophic pandemic, world War
Speaker 1: three cyber attack, that we can overwhelm the fraud, that
Speaker 1: we don't have this mass mail in ballot situation. I
Speaker 1: think we can overwhelm the fraud. But overall, I do
Speaker 1: think Trump has the best chance to do that. I
Speaker 1: think the primary is done and done. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I love this Sanis. I am a huge, huge fan
Speaker 1: to Santus, but he's gonna be splitting Trump's leftovers with
Speaker 1: at least five or six maybe more other candidates, and
Speaker 1: that's just gonna be really hard to beat Trump's you know,
Speaker 1: forty to fifty locked in percent. So I do think
Speaker 1: he can absolutely win. He got more votes in than
Speaker 1: any other Republican in twenty twenty. We all know what happened,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm highly I want him there, and then
Speaker 1: I want to Satis for eight years after that. I
Speaker 1: just want to I want to say, Um, I appreciate
Speaker 1: it doesn't help anybody to get this pulled off of
Speaker 1: Spotify and YouTube, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate the uh, the way in which you are laying
Speaker 1: out these issues, because you know, still they have the
Speaker 1: algorithms set up where if you say certain things about
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, you will get flagged, you will get banned,
Speaker 1: and you know all kinds of stuff. So so I
Speaker 1: appreciate that you are expressing your opinion in such a
Speaker 1: way that we can evade because I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't think they've a you know, they're not assigning somebody
Speaker 1: yet YouTube Headquarters to like listen to every podcast I do,
Speaker 1: or watch everything we do here, but the machines will
Speaker 1: pick up certain words. There are certain words that the
Speaker 1: machines we'll see, and it really does feel more and
Speaker 1: more like we're living in some version of the matrix
Speaker 1: um and and this is before AI has really kicked
Speaker 1: in heavily. By the way, what do you think about AI?
Speaker 1: Have you? Have you messed around at all? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a cutting edge technological communications guy. It is pretty
Speaker 1: it is pretty funky. You can write something say hey,
Speaker 1: tell me this, and it will come up with an
Speaker 1: actual essay in response and give you opinions. Yeah, it's well,
Speaker 1: it's it's woke. It's woke. AI, and we've already kind
Speaker 1: of proven that chat GBT had the chance to be
Speaker 1: a in evaded ancing technology. In many ways, it is,
Speaker 1: but it's also more of the same, whether some BuzzFeed
Speaker 1: writer spits it out you know what his sociology professor
Speaker 1: taught him at Sunny Geneseo, or it's woke programmed AI.
Speaker 1: Like all things, though, I think it leaves a massive
Speaker 1: economic opportunity for an alternative that is sensible, And I
Speaker 1: know Elon is in the process of creating a based
Speaker 1: AI or a regular AI, so I think those will
Speaker 1: win the day. And but it's been really fascinating for
Speaker 1: people to be messing around with this thing and really
Speaker 1: exploring it's backdoor mechanisms. Hey, I know you can't say anything,
Speaker 1: but if you could, what would you say? Things like that,
Speaker 1: just like tongue in cheek and then it gives you
Speaker 1: the really answer. But it's also quite scary because it
Speaker 1: is a very powerful computer program, I guess, and we're
Speaker 1: just seeing the early versions of it and it's uh,
Speaker 1: well a, it's certainly more advanced in you know, confidential settings,
Speaker 1: probably in the military applications and higher business settings. Uh
Speaker 1: and be it I am scared to think of what
Speaker 1: it looks like five to ten years from now when
Speaker 1: it's so much more advanced, especially with those like four
Speaker 1: legged dogs that they show dancing, the robot dogs and
Speaker 1: they try and make Boston dynamics. I think it is
Speaker 1: or yeah, it's it's and and then the ones that
Speaker 1: walk and they can do backflips, and it's like terminator.
Speaker 1: So now you slap that AI on that thing that
Speaker 1: can do three backflips and dance better than anyone, and
Speaker 1: you know we're in for I don't know UM, so
Speaker 1: we You know, Elon was right to point out that
Speaker 1: we really need a massive ethics guard rail with all
Speaker 1: this AI so that it doesn't take over UM. But
Speaker 1: I think he or she who controls AI will control
Speaker 1: a lot of the world. Makes me want to ask
Speaker 1: you about China as China as our mutual friend would
Speaker 1: say that we can get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Florida. You mentioned me, by the way, Governor
Speaker 1: Ronda Santis you hold in very high regard. You don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to win the primary, but you think
Speaker 1: he's a great governor. We could certainly agree that he's
Speaker 1: a great governor. I'm a Floridian. Now after being a decade,
Speaker 1: I wasn't just a New Yorker Rogan. I was a
Speaker 1: if somebody doesn't understand that New York is the best
Speaker 1: city in America, it's just because they haven't spent enough
Speaker 1: time there. Like that was really my attitude to somebody
Speaker 1: who grew up there. And now, I mean, I'm walking
Speaker 1: around in my pink flip flops with my tank top
Speaker 1: on and my sunglasses paying no state income tax. I
Speaker 1: just went in. I just had the experience of going
Speaker 1: in recently to a gun store and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take I'll take I'll take the Daniel defense did
Speaker 1: four the r that looks very nice. I take one
Speaker 1: of those. Yeah, that that's good. That's good. I'll take that.
Speaker 1: I'll also I think I want the staccato, and they're
Speaker 1: like that's very expensive. Gone, I'm like, sounds good. Let's
Speaker 1: take the really, let's take the supermaz. I've fired staccatos
Speaker 1: before and they're just You're like, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: feel like John Wick, like there's so much fun. So
Speaker 1: I got myself as staccato, and it's just amazing, because honestly,
Speaker 1: there was a part as as somebody who now lives
Speaker 1: in Florida where was walking out. I was like, is
Speaker 1: this a like is there like a sting operation, like
Speaker 1: someone waiting for you in New York? The notion you
Speaker 1: just walk in. Obviously I had to go through the
Speaker 1: waiting period ever, but you know, I came back after
Speaker 1: five days. The notion you just walk in without a
Speaker 1: permit process, without interviews and fingerprinting and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and get yourself a you know, a world class rifle
Speaker 1: and pistol and not worry that like the NYPDS can
Speaker 1: rest you the second you walk out of the store.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just one example for me of just
Speaker 1: it's amazing how much better life is in so many
Speaker 1: ways in these Red states now. It really does make
Speaker 1: a difference. It really is different. Welcome to America. I
Speaker 1: went through the same process. I came here from California
Speaker 1: and my AAR at the time could only hold ten rounds.
Speaker 1: And you couldn't even just push the button to drop
Speaker 1: the magazine. You had to stick a pin in a
Speaker 1: little hole to push it. It was like the workaround.
Speaker 1: It couldn't have like a detached magazine, I mean, And
Speaker 1: I got it fixed out here and I've got, you know,
Speaker 1: many more guns, the Florida versions, which are you know,
Speaker 1: real guns. It's amazing. Um. The good thing about Florida
Speaker 1: two is if you have your carry concealed permit, you
Speaker 1: can just walk out of the store with a gun.
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait. And we're getting rid of
Speaker 1: the carry concealed permit. We're gonna be a constitution ferry
Speaker 1: st Yeah soon. Um. And we got some work to
Speaker 1: do on our two way stuff. We've really led the
Speaker 1: country on the culture war, but we have read flag laws.
Speaker 1: They enacted those after Parkland, and you know, to my knowledge,
Speaker 1: I have not really been utilized. But we got to
Speaker 1: get rid of those. And I think we should also
Speaker 1: be an open carry state. I think, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a few other things that we can do, but Florida
Speaker 1: is I think it's fascinating how many prominent conservatives have
Speaker 1: moved here. I feel like that we all know, no
Speaker 1: matter what happens, who's in the White House, who takes over,
Speaker 1: Florida will will always be free. There's a snowball's chance
Speaker 1: in hell of any Democrat winning this state, especially if
Speaker 1: they're in line with the current platform of the Democrat Party,
Speaker 1: which is Marxist. And we have such a deep bench
Speaker 1: of talent. I mean, think about even if we didn't
Speaker 1: have Rond De Santas, we got Matt Gates, we got
Speaker 1: Byron Donalds, we got Greg Stubie, we got Anna Paulina Luna.
Speaker 1: And that's just the people that are currently elected, never
Speaker 1: mind the deep bench of political talent. Charlie kirkliffs here,
Speaker 1: you live here, I live here, Bennie Johnson, Dan Bongino,
Speaker 1: and Coulter Tucker, Carlson, Sean Hannity half the year with Tucker.
Speaker 1: So you've pretty much been Shapiro, You've pretty much got oh,
Speaker 1: Seth Dillon. Um, I know I can sit Down'm like
Speaker 1: keep going, Carol Margo Wits is down here, Dave Ruben
Speaker 1: is down here. Like there's all of these, all these
Speaker 1: you use it or keep going and going. By the way,
Speaker 1: it is the greatest concentration of right wing media talent
Speaker 1: in one state ever. Yes, And I would say that
Speaker 1: we are the strongest and densest Republican stronghold on planet Earth.
Speaker 1: I think we are where if if freedom dies in Florida,
Speaker 1: it dies everywhere. And so I am hoping and I
Speaker 1: firmly believe, you know, as scary as AI is, we
Speaker 1: are building such a powerful media ecosystem with independent journalism.
Speaker 1: I mean, think of how far we've come just in
Speaker 1: two or three years, never mind five or six years.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't even have an account five or
Speaker 1: six years ago, and now I've got what over four
Speaker 1: million combined. And look at the growth that Charlie kirkis had,
Speaker 1: Dan Bongino has had, Candice Owens, all these names have
Speaker 1: literally hundreds of millions of followers that just didn't exist
Speaker 1: five years ago. And Rumble, you know, is a massive
Speaker 1: growing platform. You know, all these podcasts are exploding in popularity,
Speaker 1: Daily Wires turning into basically a mainstream media conglomerate with
Speaker 1: a conservative perspective. You know, Jordan Peterson is selling out
Speaker 1: arenas to talk about I mean, we are really this
Speaker 1: is a very pivotal moment, in a very historic moment
Speaker 1: in American history where there is a true, peaceful conservative
Speaker 1: revolution rising up to take back this country because the
Speaker 1: entire world is at stake. I mean, what we're facing
Speaker 1: here in America's impacting the whole world, and I frankly
Speaker 1: think a lot of it comes from the wef why
Speaker 1: hasn't Biden gone to East Palestine Rogan because he when
Speaker 1: it comes down to it, he hates the American people.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even like Democrats. Biden is a sock puppet
Speaker 1: for a criminal. Again, We're on these platforms for a
Speaker 1: criminal cartel that is looting the US treasury, laundering it
Speaker 1: overseas eighty five billion, and weapons for the Taliban one
Speaker 1: hundred billion to Ukraine. We've got an open border flooding
Speaker 1: the country with people who are not American and who
Speaker 1: did not do not grow up with our heritage and
Speaker 1: our culture, and our education system and our understanding of
Speaker 1: our freedoms. They want to dilute the American vote. They
Speaker 1: want to give these people voting rights. And what they
Speaker 1: did in Afghanistan, where they disgraced what our military fought
Speaker 1: for for so many years and people gave their lives
Speaker 1: for what he did when he let that Chinese spy
Speaker 1: balloon fly over the country undisturbed. What he did when
Speaker 1: he brought back the w NBA player but not the
Speaker 1: US marine. These are all intentional acts. When he checked
Speaker 1: his watch during the funeral, the procession for the soldiers
Speaker 1: coming home from Afghanistan, these are all intentional acts. He's
Speaker 1: not visiting Ohio on purpose. He is trying to demoralize
Speaker 1: the United States because when it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: this is the third term for Obama, and Obama was
Speaker 1: doing this in his last term. He was at the
Speaker 1: funeral of the five Dallas cops killed by a BLM radical.
Speaker 1: He demonized cops in his eulogy. It is an intentional
Speaker 1: They hate America. That's the whole woke movement. America's this
Speaker 1: racist country that doesn't deserve our respect. And these people
Speaker 1: that rose up and supported Trump, this uprising, they need
Speaker 1: to be put back in their place. They need to
Speaker 1: be demoralized, crushed, and stuffed back into complacency so that
Speaker 1: the criminal cartel in DC can continue to loot and
Speaker 1: destroy this great country. Do you think we're gaining ground
Speaker 1: right now in the culture war and key areas? I
Speaker 1: mean one place where I've seen a lot of action.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Delhi Wire before. You know, Matt Walsh did
Speaker 1: that great movie, um What Is a Woman? And I've
Speaker 1: seen now a number of states and acting legislation, including my,
Speaker 1: uh my friend Governor Stid of Oklahoma getting rid of
Speaker 1: gender transition surgery for miners. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: know you're feeling on this, because on the one hand,
Speaker 1: it feels like, Okay, we're starting at we're getting some
Speaker 1: momentum in some important eraas and the others it feels like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're really at this point. You know,
Speaker 1: you see some of the stuff on libs of TikTok,
Speaker 1: for example, that that that Hia is showing everybody that
Speaker 1: the libs are doing. And on the on the one hand, yeah,
Speaker 1: people need to see this, they didn't know about it,
Speaker 1: but also, I mean, good god, Rogan, you see some
Speaker 1: of the stuff they're doing at these family friendly drag
Speaker 1: shows or whatever they got they got, you know, middle
Speaker 1: aged men gyrating their butts in the faces of small children.
Speaker 1: They've got like thongs on. It's like it's appalling, And
Speaker 1: this is where we're fighting. So are we winning or
Speaker 1: are we defending on our own five yard line? Well,
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is those those things are already illegal.
Speaker 1: There's just a lack of integrity with enforcing you know,
Speaker 1: indecency in front of children. Thankfully, in Florida, you know,
Speaker 1: we are taking a much stronger stance. There was a
Speaker 1: one of those drag shows at in Orlando bar and
Speaker 1: to Santa's revoked their liquor license after so they'll be
Speaker 1: out of business soon, and that that sends a message
Speaker 1: to all the other establishments and they're not going to
Speaker 1: rest losing their entire business to push awoke, you know,
Speaker 1: exploitation of children. Are we winning? Yes? Does it feel
Speaker 1: like it? Not? Always we are. There is more momentum
Speaker 1: on Second Amendment rights, on restoring election integrity, on awakening
Speaker 1: parents to what this Marxist movement has been trying to
Speaker 1: do to our children. As aggressive and insane as the
Speaker 1: left has gotten, it has a counter reaction amongst people.
Speaker 1: Nature finds a balance, and as they push harder to
Speaker 1: the left, more and more people are waking up on
Speaker 1: the right in the middle. I've personally seen a material
Speaker 1: shift in Elon Musk and Joe Rogan's political opinions. I
Speaker 1: think they both used to be pretty middle of the
Speaker 1: road people, and then California treated them so badly they
Speaker 1: both got pushed out, and now they're I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: they're necessarily necessarily conservatives, but what is even a conservative
Speaker 1: at this point? A common sense, regular independent American that
Speaker 1: doesn't think a naked man dressed as a woman should
Speaker 1: dance in front of children. I mean, the left has
Speaker 1: gone so far left that just regular prior center left
Speaker 1: people are considered conservatives at this point. So, um, this
Speaker 1: is unsustainable long term. And it kind of feels like
Speaker 1: the movement trying to destroy a country is in a
Speaker 1: little bit of a death rattle, that they're losing their
Speaker 1: grip on power and their ability to deceive people, especially
Speaker 1: with more and more free speech coming out on social media,
Speaker 1: that they're just going all out and those types of
Speaker 1: regimes just simply don't last. So as painful as this
Speaker 1: is at times, the big picture is that we are
Speaker 1: the white blood cells of humanity are coming to vanquish this,
Speaker 1: this evil movement. Frankly, I think it's demonic, and so
Speaker 1: I think people. I think there is a you know,
Speaker 1: a bit of an awakening in this country. Um, and
Speaker 1: then we'll have to save the rest of the world
Speaker 1: after Well, Rogan, you're certainly doing your part. Everybody should
Speaker 1: go check out DC Draino on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, follow
Speaker 1: the accounts he puts out there. One thing that you do,
Speaker 1: it's so important, is is obviously fighting on the right
Speaker 1: messages and and pushing the principles. It's funny. You're right,
Speaker 1: it's not even conservative and just decent and American and true.
Speaker 1: That's if you're a If you're a decent, truth abiding American.
Speaker 1: It feels like you're a conservative these days, even if
Speaker 1: people don't even identify that way. But what you do,
Speaker 1: I think is is so important. And also the mockery
Speaker 1: of the left, this is always, it's true of all tyrants.
Speaker 1: The thing that cannot abide is mockery. The thing and
Speaker 1: you know this better than most, Rogan, the thing that
Speaker 1: you know when the DC Draino account posts something that
Speaker 1: hits too too close to home, it burns them, man,
Speaker 1: And it is great. It upsets those those lunatic marks demons,
Speaker 1: and that's a good thing for everybody, everybody in the
Speaker 1: country and actually for them too, because maybe they'll actually
Speaker 1: decide that they're going to abandon the lunacy that they
Speaker 1: have adopted. Brogan. Great to be with you, man, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for having well, definitely want to have
Speaker 1: you back as the elections going on, So I hope
Speaker 1: you come back and hang out with us and at
Speaker 1: school that you're getting a chat with me and obviously
Speaker 1: Clay and Buck audience learning more about your work through
Speaker 1: it so DC Drone everybody stay in the fight, my friend.
Speaker 1: Thanks for making the time, Thank you for having me. Buck,
Speaker 1: keep it up, brother God Bus