WEBVTT - DC Draino - How We Win the Culture War 0:00:11.657 --> 0:00:14.937 You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.937 --> 0:00:17.577 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app 0:00:17.857 --> 0:00:21.217 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to 0:00:21.257 --> 0:00:24.617 another episode of The Buck Sexton Show Deep Dive Session 0:00:25.017 --> 0:00:31.697 with the asked for the greatly anticipated Rogan o'hanley, best 0:00:31.737 --> 0:00:34.657 known to many of you as DC drain No. He 0:00:34.737 --> 0:00:38.017 is DC Draino on Twitter, on Instagram, on all the 0:00:38.057 --> 0:00:42.137 places where he shares his memes, his commentary, and his 0:00:42.297 --> 0:00:45.657 fighting for America. Rogan, which I have to remember to 0:00:45.657 --> 0:00:48.337 call you because you'd not actually call you DC Drado, 0:00:48.457 --> 0:00:51.497 but Rogan, you call me Drado. That's fine, Draino. That's cool. 0:00:51.737 --> 0:00:53.617 Good to see you, man. How are you. How's everything going. 0:00:54.977 --> 0:00:57.537 I'm doing well. I've got my Florida Man shirt on 0:00:57.977 --> 0:01:00.737 to honor the great land that we live in. But 0:01:01.297 --> 0:01:02.977 thank you for having me on, brother, Thank you. Well, 0:01:02.977 --> 0:01:06.097 you know I'm I'm a Florida transplant as well, and 0:01:06.137 --> 0:01:07.937 I just look like a guy who threw in a 0:01:07.937 --> 0:01:10.377 T shirt after waking up from a nap, which I 0:01:10.417 --> 0:01:13.457 also feel like is very Florida in its own way. 0:01:14.897 --> 0:01:17.337 There was a great meme. It's a what's something that's 0:01:17.457 --> 0:01:20.897 classy if you're rich, but trashy if you're poor. And 0:01:20.977 --> 0:01:25.097 the guy goes Florida. I saw that. Are you a 0:01:25.097 --> 0:01:29.297 wide range? Are you active on on? You know, there's 0:01:29.297 --> 0:01:32.577 whole many, so many things you saw. You saw Trump recently. 0:01:32.617 --> 0:01:35.057 I want to ask you about that. You know, how 0:01:35.217 --> 0:01:38.377 is the Trump camp doing right now? What do you 0:01:38.417 --> 0:01:41.457 think about twenty twenty forty? Are you sure Biden, for example, 0:01:41.577 --> 0:01:44.577 is going to run. We've got He's Palestine to discuss 0:01:45.537 --> 0:01:47.697 a whole whole range of things that I want to 0:01:47.737 --> 0:01:51.217 get today with you. But TikTok, you know, they they're 0:01:51.297 --> 0:01:53.777 moving closer and closer it seems to actually banning it. 0:01:53.857 --> 0:01:56.537 Are you active on TikTok? Are are you an anti 0:01:56.617 --> 0:01:59.817 TikTok guy? Because you know you've built this massive presence 0:02:00.137 --> 0:02:04.457 millions of people on Instagram and other platforms. What do 0:02:04.457 --> 0:02:07.977 you think about TikTok? So when TikTok first came out, 0:02:08.057 --> 0:02:12.337 I jumped all over it. I quickly felt very uncomfortable 0:02:12.377 --> 0:02:16.817 and far too old for TikTok, And it was tough 0:02:16.937 --> 0:02:21.017 to relay my type of content, which is very anti 0:02:21.097 --> 0:02:25.577 Deep State, to such a young, specifically young audience. You know, 0:02:25.617 --> 0:02:27.977 on Instagram, you get such a wide range, but especially 0:02:28.017 --> 0:02:31.457 in people in their thirties and forties. For TikTok, it 0:02:31.537 --> 0:02:36.177 was tough. So I got like two hundred thousand followers 0:02:36.177 --> 0:02:39.977 on there, but then I kept getting censored and it 0:02:40.097 --> 0:02:43.897 was the most censored platform out of all of them, 0:02:43.897 --> 0:02:46.097 which is saying something, and so I gave up. I 0:02:46.137 --> 0:02:49.857 didn't post for like two years, and I just deleted 0:02:49.857 --> 0:02:52.977 it right around the Chinese spy balloon incident because I 0:02:53.017 --> 0:02:56.897 was like, how am I gonna, you know, talk about 0:02:56.897 --> 0:02:59.777 the surveillance balloon while I still have the surveillance app 0:02:59.857 --> 0:03:04.457 on my phone? So I am, you know, completely off TikTok. 0:03:04.577 --> 0:03:06.297 And I guess, why do they even need the balloons? 0:03:06.297 --> 0:03:09.137 If everyone's you're carrying around the surveillance balloon in your hand. 0:03:09.177 --> 0:03:10.697 At least that's what they're tal on us. That's what 0:03:10.897 --> 0:03:13.457 That's what TikTok actually is. I'd say I like to 0:03:13.537 --> 0:03:18.017 watch TikTok sometimes just because if you're into quick recipes, 0:03:18.457 --> 0:03:24.697 grilling meat, homemade knives and tools, but particularly there's a 0:03:24.737 --> 0:03:27.417 lot of blade smiths on TikTok, Like there's cool content 0:03:27.457 --> 0:03:29.857 on there. Unfortunately, there has nothing to do with China. 0:03:30.137 --> 0:03:33.497 Chinese Communist Party, but apparently it's carrying around a spy 0:03:33.537 --> 0:03:36.737 balloon in your hand, which is probably not a good thing. Yeah, 0:03:36.777 --> 0:03:40.297 I mean it's a very addictive platform. I used to, 0:03:40.737 --> 0:03:42.857 you know, look at it a fair amount. I really 0:03:42.857 --> 0:03:44.897 haven't looked at that much in the last couple of years. 0:03:44.937 --> 0:03:50.577 But I am actually very pro banning TikTok. For one, 0:03:50.777 --> 0:03:54.337 it will get rid of a you know, Chinese spy 0:03:54.577 --> 0:03:58.417 platform in the United States. And two, all those people 0:03:58.417 --> 0:04:01.577 are going to disperse across other platforms where you and 0:04:01.617 --> 0:04:06.457 I are far more prominent and where we enjoy those 0:04:06.497 --> 0:04:10.777 platforms more. And so I think it actually helps um 0:04:11.097 --> 0:04:13.817 the other platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if the people 0:04:13.897 --> 0:04:20.257 leading the charge against it are Facebook, Google, you know, uh, Snapchat, etc. 0:04:20.617 --> 0:04:25.417 Because they're such a strong Ti TikTok is definitely beating 0:04:25.457 --> 0:04:28.617 all the other platforms. You know, Snapchat for a little 0:04:28.617 --> 0:04:31.977 while was the kind of young, you know, the next 0:04:32.017 --> 0:04:35.457 generation platform that was really scaring Facebook and all that. 0:04:35.537 --> 0:04:38.937 But I think Snapchat has really has really fallen off. Also, 0:04:38.977 --> 0:04:40.617 this whole idea that people have of like, oh, you 0:04:40.617 --> 0:04:42.737 can take a photo or whatever incentive somebody and it 0:04:42.737 --> 0:04:45.897 disappears forever. No, it's actually not how the internet works. 0:04:45.897 --> 0:04:47.577 So you know this is you know, I think when 0:04:47.577 --> 0:04:50.737 people realized that some of the Snapchat features weren't really 0:04:50.737 --> 0:04:54.057 what they thought they were. Um, but beyond that, uh, 0:04:54.577 --> 0:04:57.577 now it's TikTok. I mean TikTok from what I can 0:04:57.617 --> 0:04:59.697 see from the data. And you know, Josh Holly was 0:04:59.737 --> 0:05:02.857 on our radio show recently talking about how he wants 0:05:02.857 --> 0:05:06.457 to ban social media for kids under sixteen. I mean, 0:05:06.457 --> 0:05:09.297 the more I look at this, the more I feel like, yeah, 0:05:09.337 --> 0:05:11.737 I I actually believe I don't think the twelve year 0:05:11.777 --> 0:05:13.457 old should be on social media. Why why would you 0:05:13.457 --> 0:05:15.217 want to be on social media as a twelve year old? 0:05:15.537 --> 0:05:19.617 You know why you wouldn't want unregulated discourse, meaning just 0:05:19.697 --> 0:05:22.817 like you're twelve year olds, you know, interacting with other 0:05:22.817 --> 0:05:25.777 twelve years you know, you want parent parental supervision around them, right, 0:05:25.817 --> 0:05:27.017 I mean, you know you don't have kids yet. I 0:05:27.017 --> 0:05:29.497 don't have kids, you know what I mean? So so 0:05:29.537 --> 0:05:32.217 this notion that you should have not even just kids, 0:05:32.217 --> 0:05:38.577 but the global internet when you're twelve, eleven, ten, thirteen, fourteen, 0:05:39.617 --> 0:05:42.417 I think I totally get it. Man. I think Josh 0:05:42.417 --> 0:05:44.297 Holly's I think he's right. Even if it's not a 0:05:44.337 --> 0:05:46.537 government mandate thing, we can get it, whether government should 0:05:46.537 --> 0:05:48.737 be mandating it or not. I don't think people should 0:05:48.737 --> 0:05:50.817 be letting their kids have social media at such a 0:05:50.857 --> 0:05:52.417 young age, just based on what we all know it 0:05:52.457 --> 0:05:57.337 can do. Yeah, I think as more science comes out 0:05:57.417 --> 0:06:01.817 about what it does to it, especially developing brain, I 0:06:01.857 --> 0:06:06.417 don't think adults should have access to social media on 0:06:06.497 --> 0:06:11.337 some days. Yeah, you know, even you know you or me. 0:06:11.457 --> 0:06:14.817 I'm a pretty strong minded person, but I mean I'll 0:06:14.817 --> 0:06:16.977 come across some stuff I'm like, what did I just watch? 0:06:17.097 --> 0:06:19.497 I mean, it will it will drastically affect my mood. 0:06:21.097 --> 0:06:25.577 But you know, for kids to not only be subjected 0:06:25.977 --> 0:06:32.857 to these types of images and videos and graphics, and 0:06:32.937 --> 0:06:39.897 then to also deal with the social ramifications of doing 0:06:39.937 --> 0:06:43.097 something in high school that was maybe embarrassing and just 0:06:43.177 --> 0:06:47.217 having this kind of group harassment campaign, I mean, look 0:06:47.217 --> 0:06:49.897 at harassment campaigns on Twitter, right, I mean obviously that's 0:06:49.897 --> 0:06:52.457 happening in high schools, and you know, kids kill themselves 0:06:52.617 --> 0:06:55.657 over this stuff. So I'm actually open to a band. 0:06:56.097 --> 0:07:00.577 Uh maybe not sixteen, maybe fourteen and under or something 0:07:00.617 --> 0:07:03.777 to maybe fifteen, I don't know, I think it's absolutely 0:07:03.817 --> 0:07:06.297 something that should be debated and there should be some 0:07:06.497 --> 0:07:09.617 limitation at a minimum. Look, I mean also, and I 0:07:09.657 --> 0:07:12.377 know this is part of of another another thread to 0:07:12.377 --> 0:07:14.777 the discussion too, but they often talk about how for 0:07:14.777 --> 0:07:19.977 for young girls it creates this completely unrealistic embody image issue. 0:07:20.097 --> 0:07:23.257 And you know, there're some there's some really horrifying statistics 0:07:23.297 --> 0:07:25.817 about how many young young women across the country have 0:07:25.897 --> 0:07:29.297 considered self harm um in the in the last year, 0:07:29.457 --> 0:07:32.177 and and there's a lot of psychological durests for young 0:07:32.257 --> 0:07:35.377 girls that as they measure this, as it's self reported, 0:07:35.457 --> 0:07:37.937 it has been getting worse and worse. I also think 0:07:37.977 --> 0:07:40.497 that for a lot of young men, and not even 0:07:40.497 --> 0:07:42.777 that young, but you know, guys up into their their teenagers, 0:07:42.777 --> 0:07:46.457 for example, they can also have I mean, the short 0:07:46.497 --> 0:07:48.337 way of putting this is that these guys that they're 0:07:48.377 --> 0:07:52.017 seeing who are who are like you know, these these 0:07:52.017 --> 0:07:58.777 physical specimens, the amount of steroid use, you know, tremblone, HGH, 0:07:58.857 --> 0:08:02.177 you know, TRT, all this stuff that goes into creating 0:08:02.177 --> 0:08:05.817 a lot of these uh, these persona accounts and social 0:08:05.857 --> 0:08:08.857 media like you know, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old guys 0:08:08.857 --> 0:08:10.617 and and guys. Honestly, a lot old that too need 0:08:10.657 --> 0:08:12.977 to know this stuff isn't real, folks, or at least 0:08:12.977 --> 0:08:15.057 there's there's a component to the reality that they're not 0:08:15.217 --> 0:08:18.657 aware of that I think can create real distortions. And 0:08:18.697 --> 0:08:21.257 I mean, do you do you see this too? There 0:08:21.297 --> 0:08:23.017 are whole accounts whe people are talking about how they 0:08:23.097 --> 0:08:28.017 use steroids just just for aesthetics. Yeah, no, one hundred percent. 0:08:28.137 --> 0:08:30.897 I mean people accused me of using steroids because I'm 0:08:30.897 --> 0:08:34.177 so jacked, and it's, you know, constant rumors I have 0:08:34.257 --> 0:08:37.737 to dispel. Um, I know it is you and liver King, 0:08:37.857 --> 0:08:40.777 and liver King's already gotten got so you better watch out. Rogan. 0:08:41.737 --> 0:08:46.257 I know, I I'm completely kidding, but um yeah, some 0:08:46.297 --> 0:08:48.417 people are only listening to other people. So just to 0:08:48.417 --> 0:08:50.817 your case for the podcast people, he was doing his 0:08:50.897 --> 0:08:53.817 bicep thing like Popeye. And while Rogan is a is 0:08:53.857 --> 0:08:56.537 a is a hard throb for the lady who'll off 0:08:56.577 --> 0:08:59.457 the market now Mary like yours. Truly, I don't think 0:09:00.177 --> 0:09:02.417 wedding ring, I don't think. I don't think anybody believes 0:09:02.417 --> 0:09:05.857 either of us are taking steroids anyway, keep going, um 0:09:05.937 --> 0:09:09.297 and and so yeah, I mean there's there's clearly you know, 0:09:09.417 --> 0:09:13.497 toxic life styles uh that are portrayed there. And you know, 0:09:13.537 --> 0:09:20.417 again I'm not opposed to education and learning about things, UM, 0:09:20.457 --> 0:09:25.017 but I think I remember there were was it Steve 0:09:25.137 --> 0:09:30.657 Jobs or other Silicon Valley big wigs who basically said 0:09:30.657 --> 0:09:33.457 they would never allow their kids on social media until 0:09:33.497 --> 0:09:35.457 they're full grown adults. And it's like, what do they 0:09:35.537 --> 0:09:37.857 know that we don't know? You know, these things are 0:09:37.897 --> 0:09:43.377 designed to be addictive, um, and we're learning that not 0:09:43.417 --> 0:09:46.297 only social media, but things like porn and other things. 0:09:46.297 --> 0:09:52.097 They really do change your your dopamine uh you know system, 0:09:52.137 --> 0:09:56.017 basically your your reward system, and it leads you down 0:09:56.057 --> 0:10:02.377 to depressing paths um and just just a bad, unhealthy lifestyle. 0:10:02.457 --> 0:10:05.457 So uh, like I said, I do think there needs 0:10:05.457 --> 0:10:11.377 to be an absolute limitation for younger kids U. And uh, 0:10:11.457 --> 0:10:15.017 you know, I I think TikTok should be banned just 0:10:15.217 --> 0:10:17.617 by virtue of the fact that China is our greatest 0:10:18.657 --> 0:10:22.897 national threat. And you know, it's very clear that their 0:10:22.977 --> 0:10:26.377 TikTok algorithms over there are designed to make their kids 0:10:26.417 --> 0:10:31.937 like fit and you know, aggressive and assertive and leaders. 0:10:32.017 --> 0:10:36.337 And the TikTok platform here is designed to promote all 0:10:36.377 --> 0:10:39.777 the woke ideologies and to ban and sense are all 0:10:39.817 --> 0:10:43.937 conservative ideologies. So you're just getting a funnel system of 0:10:43.977 --> 0:10:48.457 the future of America being steered by a foreign communist 0:10:48.537 --> 0:10:51.737 country's algorithm. And for that alone, I think it should 0:10:51.737 --> 0:10:55.857 be banned. Yeah, I'm a person who often tells people 0:10:56.137 --> 0:10:58.697 that I think it's really instructive to read. You know, 0:10:58.697 --> 0:11:02.177 the KGB archives were. If we're uncovered after the fall 0:11:02.377 --> 0:11:05.817 of the Wall, the Metroken archives, people will refer to 0:11:05.857 --> 0:11:08.937 it as and you can see the active measures and 0:11:08.977 --> 0:11:12.097 the different clandestine operations of Russian intelligence against the United 0:11:12.097 --> 0:11:14.577 States in a whole range of ways, much more pervasive 0:11:14.617 --> 0:11:18.497 than people learn in school. Much broader penetrations by the 0:11:18.497 --> 0:11:20.897 Communist Party of the United States were very real. The 0:11:20.977 --> 0:11:24.497 Red Scare was actually fear mongering in the wrong direction, 0:11:24.537 --> 0:11:26.377 as in telling people that it wasn't really happening. I mean, 0:11:26.377 --> 0:11:29.097 for God's sakes, they stole our nuclear technology. I mean, 0:11:29.457 --> 0:11:32.537 you know, the most sensitive stuff was targeted about the Soviets. 0:11:32.657 --> 0:11:35.457 If they could have convinced all of our children in 0:11:35.497 --> 0:11:38.257 our homes that they were one of thirty eight genders 0:11:38.337 --> 0:11:42.817 or whatever, and that masculinity was toxic, the Soviets would 0:11:42.817 --> 0:11:44.417 have had a field day with it. I mean they would, 0:11:44.537 --> 0:11:47.897 They would have absolutely loved what. Now, obviously the Chinese 0:11:47.897 --> 0:11:50.857 Communist Party is able to do as our near peer competitor. 0:11:51.017 --> 0:11:53.057 I want to get back to the censorship point through 0:11:53.057 --> 0:11:54.857 in a second. So I wonder how that's affected you. 0:11:55.017 --> 0:11:58.057 For example, you know, you're prolific on Instagram. You've got 0:11:58.097 --> 0:12:01.377 over two million Instagram followers, which is huge, and you know, 0:12:01.497 --> 0:12:03.377 and you're not a bikini model, so it means that 0:12:03.377 --> 0:12:06.177 you actually have to do content that people are interested 0:12:06.177 --> 0:12:08.297 in beyond just look at me. I'm really not that 0:12:08.377 --> 0:12:11.257 you're not you know, I'm sure you know the ladies, 0:12:11.297 --> 0:12:13.897 as I said, but you're doing a lot of content 0:12:13.937 --> 0:12:15.097 that a lot of people are seeing. I want to 0:12:15.097 --> 0:12:17.217 know what kind of censorship you're actually coming up against. 0:12:17.217 --> 0:12:20.417 So put a pin of that for one second, Dreino, 0:12:20.497 --> 0:12:22.497 because I want to also talk about our sponsor here 0:12:22.497 --> 0:12:25.257 from the Tunnels of Towers Foundation. Tunnel to Towers does 0:12:25.577 --> 0:12:29.897 incredible work. 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First of all, 0:13:29.057 --> 0:13:31.177 what do you think of how twitters coming along at 0:13:31.217 --> 0:13:34.137 this point? And have the other platforms gotten a little 0:13:34.137 --> 0:13:39.457 bit less censor crazy or are they still doing the 0:13:39.497 --> 0:13:41.977 same kind of stuff, Dad, and you're getting strikes, you're 0:13:41.977 --> 0:13:46.737 getting shadow banned all that. It's a good question. So 0:13:46.857 --> 0:13:49.417 first off, I just got my Twitter back after being 0:13:49.497 --> 0:13:54.017 banned for two years, So congratulations, by the way, welcome back, 0:13:54.857 --> 0:13:59.057 thank you. And you know, I've currently got a lawsuit. 0:13:59.057 --> 0:14:03.217 I'm represented by Harmat Dylan and we had our hearing 0:14:03.217 --> 0:14:05.537 in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals three months ago. 0:14:05.617 --> 0:14:07.937 So any day now we could wake up and there 0:14:08.017 --> 0:14:12.977 is a major ruling that could impact all of us 0:14:13.777 --> 0:14:17.497 because all big tech cases go through the Ninth Circuit. 0:14:17.737 --> 0:14:22.777 So we're not optimistic necessarily because the Ninth Circus Court 0:14:22.777 --> 0:14:27.297 of Appeals is a little bit leftist, not as leftist 0:14:27.297 --> 0:14:29.177 as it used to be, thank you to President Trump, 0:14:29.217 --> 0:14:32.617 but still leftists. And so then it's onto the Supreme 0:14:32.657 --> 0:14:35.177 Court after that. But you know, it ties in with 0:14:35.217 --> 0:14:39.257 the Twitter files. It was the state of California that 0:14:39.417 --> 0:14:41.737 requested that I'd be censored, and then I was banned 0:14:42.057 --> 0:14:45.777 for discussing election irregularities. I don't know what platform this 0:14:45.817 --> 0:14:48.337 will be played on, but I'll you know, people can 0:14:48.337 --> 0:14:53.057 fill in the blanks there. And yeah, so we had 0:14:53.057 --> 0:14:57.297 the smoking gun emails. We caught them. Thus far, My 0:14:57.377 --> 0:15:02.257 experience back on Twitter has been great, better than when 0:15:02.257 --> 0:15:04.377 I left off. It is a breath of fresh air 0:15:04.457 --> 0:15:07.897 to have so much freedom of speech being on Instagram. 0:15:07.977 --> 0:15:11.937 Instagram is very high least censored. They have the fact checkers, 0:15:12.017 --> 0:15:16.617 PolitiFact lead stories. UH there's there's at least ten other 0:15:16.897 --> 0:15:19.897 associated press. I got fact checked when there are Chinese 0:15:19.897 --> 0:15:21.737 tanks rolling down a street in front of their bank 0:15:22.417 --> 0:15:25.377 when people couldn't withdraw the money. I got fact checked 0:15:25.857 --> 0:15:28.497 when I posted that the next day by the Associated 0:15:28.537 --> 0:15:33.377 Press saying they talked with an employee nearby who said 0:15:33.377 --> 0:15:36.017 that it was a military training exercise, nothing to do 0:15:36.097 --> 0:15:39.137 with and it was written by like a Chinese author, 0:15:39.217 --> 0:15:42.977 and you know, based in Beijing or wherever. And I'm like, 0:15:43.017 --> 0:15:46.057 oh my gosh, the Chinese are censoring us. You're getting 0:15:46.057 --> 0:15:52.217 fined Qinwa State News agency over there. Yeah, there's no 0:15:52.257 --> 0:15:56.977 one that works for UH in any type of Chinese 0:15:57.097 --> 0:16:01.137 enterprise or Chinese office satellite office of a company that 0:16:01.257 --> 0:16:04.697 isn't a government agent. So of course it polit a 0:16:04.777 --> 0:16:08.017 fact I said, you know, Joe Biden is a child predator, 0:16:08.537 --> 0:16:12.977 and they fact checked that, saying that there's no evidence 0:16:13.017 --> 0:16:15.857 of any crimes he's committed against children. I mean, the 0:16:16.297 --> 0:16:20.297 lengths that they go to to protect the regime is insane, 0:16:20.497 --> 0:16:23.777 and so no, I have not noticed a decrease in 0:16:23.817 --> 0:16:29.017 the censorship on other platforms. However, I am optimistic that 0:16:29.217 --> 0:16:33.177 as Elon leads the way, we're starting to see copycat 0:16:33.297 --> 0:16:36.697 moves by these other big tech platforms. Two moves in particular, 0:16:36.777 --> 0:16:39.697 one firing a bunch of people. Elon was the first 0:16:39.697 --> 0:16:41.417 one to do it, and they all followed suit. And 0:16:41.497 --> 0:16:46.737 now Facebook and Instagram are going to allow you to 0:16:46.857 --> 0:16:50.137 buy a blue check, which I personally do not have 0:16:50.177 --> 0:16:53.217 this by having over two million followers, and it'll include 0:16:53.217 --> 0:17:00.497 customer service priority in the explore feature, So that's something 0:17:00.497 --> 0:17:04.297 they followed Elon's lead on. So I'm curious what else. 0:17:04.537 --> 0:17:08.377 Maybe the open source algorithm that Elon is promising, maybe 0:17:08.417 --> 0:17:12.737 showing why you are suspect ended or showing whether or 0:17:12.777 --> 0:17:15.217 not you have any shadow band applicable to your account. 0:17:15.217 --> 0:17:18.737 Maybe they'll copy that stuff. So I do thank Elon overall. 0:17:18.777 --> 0:17:20.457 I mean I have been saying this to people for 0:17:20.497 --> 0:17:24.057 a while that only in social media it has it 0:17:24.217 --> 0:17:26.817 been somehow deemed Don't we know why? Because it's such 0:17:26.817 --> 0:17:29.817 a huge advantage for the left. And it's really the 0:17:29.857 --> 0:17:32.217 social media companies are certainly have a lot more money 0:17:32.257 --> 0:17:34.857 and are more powerful than any of the legacy media companies. 0:17:34.857 --> 0:17:36.737 And it's not even close, right, I mean, Google is 0:17:37.537 --> 0:17:41.897 arguably there what the three three wealthiest, three most powerful 0:17:41.937 --> 0:17:45.857 countries companies, Rather it could be a country on the planet, 0:17:46.457 --> 0:17:48.057 and you add some of the others in there as well. 0:17:48.097 --> 0:17:49.937 I mean that the amount of money that they have 0:17:50.017 --> 0:17:52.457 and the amount of reach they have is truly is 0:17:52.457 --> 0:17:55.937 truly mind blowing. But even beyond that, there's no other 0:17:56.057 --> 0:17:59.537 business where, you know, for example, with your credit card company, 0:18:00.257 --> 0:18:01.937 they couldn't be like, hey, sorry, we turned you over 0:18:01.937 --> 0:18:05.137 to collections and you're like, well why, Like what do 0:18:05.217 --> 0:18:07.377 I owe you? They're like, sorry, how much do I 0:18:07.377 --> 0:18:09.497 owe you? We can't tell you. All you know is 0:18:09.497 --> 0:18:12.017 you've been turned the collections in your card to shut down, right, 0:18:12.017 --> 0:18:15.257 I mean, you wouldn't accept that. That's been happened to 0:18:15.257 --> 0:18:18.137 people in social media for years now. You get, you 0:18:18.137 --> 0:18:22.057 get get emailitized, you get you know, and there's no explanation. 0:18:22.337 --> 0:18:25.177 They don't care. They just say sorry, we've decided and 0:18:25.257 --> 0:18:29.417 that's it. Yeah, I wish they said sorry. They say nothing. 0:18:29.497 --> 0:18:32.017 You just can't even sign in. No one responds to 0:18:32.057 --> 0:18:37.457 your emails. And that's it, and and it's it's it's wrong, 0:18:37.977 --> 0:18:41.217 and it will be illegal at some point because if 0:18:41.257 --> 0:18:45.537 you spend years and hundreds of thousands of dollars building 0:18:45.617 --> 0:18:49.617 up a following or a business and uh, it just 0:18:49.657 --> 0:18:51.937 gets taken out from you one day because of some 0:18:52.097 --> 0:18:57.577 arbitrary fact checker or some arbitrary application of their community guidelines, 0:18:57.577 --> 0:19:00.497 which are so broadly written that literally anything can be egal. 0:19:00.657 --> 0:19:02.937 It's just a form of fraud. It's just fraud. I mean, 0:19:02.937 --> 0:19:07.257 you're taking from people under false pretenses. It is um. 0:19:07.337 --> 0:19:12.657 I am again highly optimistic that my lawsuit will change 0:19:12.737 --> 0:19:16.337 things across the country. A. I'm represented by the best 0:19:16.377 --> 0:19:21.057 civil rights attorney in the country, Harmy Dylan b. We 0:19:21.177 --> 0:19:24.657 have seen in the Twitter files that the government is 0:19:24.657 --> 0:19:30.177 so directly intertwined with the censorship apparatus that it's indistinguishable 0:19:30.297 --> 0:19:32.177 between big tech. I mean, so many of the ex 0:19:32.297 --> 0:19:36.697 agents worked there and the coordination just exposing the Twitter 0:19:36.697 --> 0:19:38.617 files and that's just a tip of the iceberg. That's 0:19:38.657 --> 0:19:40.897 just Twitter. Imagine what's going on at Facebook, which is 0:19:40.937 --> 0:19:45.857 a much bigger company and more users and especially Google, 0:19:46.297 --> 0:19:50.017 so tip of the iceberg. And the problem is there's 0:19:50.017 --> 0:19:54.977 no recourse against this. Obviously Section to thirty protects them. 0:19:55.017 --> 0:19:58.977 But even my case, which was a First Amendment violation 0:19:59.017 --> 0:20:02.177 because the government said, hey, literally censored DC drain now 0:20:02.377 --> 0:20:04.977 and we have the email, and the judge, the federal 0:20:05.057 --> 0:20:08.977 judge in the Northern District of California, still said Nope, 0:20:09.057 --> 0:20:12.817 not enough to government collusion. I'm like, what is going 0:20:12.857 --> 0:20:14.257 on here? You know, I feel like I'm in the 0:20:14.537 --> 0:20:19.137 So the big tech is the most powerful force in 0:20:19.217 --> 0:20:21.057 nature on planet Earth. I would say, if you if 0:20:21.097 --> 0:20:24.657 you can silence the sitting president of the United States, 0:20:24.737 --> 0:20:29.297 what is more powerful than that? Only God? In my opinion, Well, 0:20:29.497 --> 0:20:31.617 you know, I wonder if you'd agree with this. That 0:20:31.657 --> 0:20:34.257 The an argument I've made from the beginning of the 0:20:34.257 --> 0:20:39.977 pandemic is that the pandemic restrictions and everything that happened 0:20:40.577 --> 0:20:45.377 was only possible because everybody was carrying around these state 0:20:45.497 --> 0:20:48.817 collusion propaganda machines in their hands all the time, or 0:20:48.857 --> 0:20:52.697 you know, on their screens computers, smart TVs, etc. Like, 0:20:52.737 --> 0:20:55.657 the only way you could convince people that we haven't 0:20:55.657 --> 0:20:58.697 lost our minds as a society when there are little 0:20:58.737 --> 0:21:02.977 places little foot pads on the sidewalk in New York 0:21:03.017 --> 0:21:06.857 City outside to show people how far apart to stand 0:21:06.897 --> 0:21:10.057 in line before they go indoors to a grocery store 0:21:10.097 --> 0:21:12.897 where they're going to be just shoulder to shoulder. If 0:21:13.097 --> 0:21:14.937 the only way you could convince people that that's not 0:21:15.017 --> 0:21:18.137 insane is if you have a propaganda apparatus that includes 0:21:18.177 --> 0:21:21.577 social media twenty four to seven enforcement of the narrative, right, 0:21:21.697 --> 0:21:24.617 like you wouldn't just newspapers wouldn't have been enough. At 0:21:24.697 --> 0:21:27.337 least that's my thesis, Like just just the newspapers, I 0:21:27.497 --> 0:21:30.897 wouldn't have done it. I completely agree, and you know, 0:21:31.017 --> 0:21:34.817 but for every measure, there's a countermeasure. And it was 0:21:34.897 --> 0:21:38.577 also a place for people like you and me and 0:21:38.737 --> 0:21:43.097 others to say, hey, this is crazy, right, And you know, 0:21:43.137 --> 0:21:45.377 I had a lot of people mentioned that because you 0:21:45.417 --> 0:21:48.017 feel they want you to feel isolated. They obviously were 0:21:48.057 --> 0:21:52.417 censoring so many people Harvard stand for doctors, anyone that 0:21:52.537 --> 0:21:56.977 questioned the narrative. But I've had people remark, you know, 0:21:57.097 --> 0:22:01.657 I knew it was crazy, but thanks to you know, 0:22:01.777 --> 0:22:05.497 your posts and just these comments sections everything, I didn't 0:22:05.537 --> 0:22:08.817 feel alone because it's like, oh, okay, few because remember 0:22:08.817 --> 0:22:12.097 we were all isolated and our houses. For the most part, 0:22:12.177 --> 0:22:14.897 people are too scared to travel, so they shut us 0:22:14.897 --> 0:22:17.697 down from bars, schools, everybody shut us down so we 0:22:17.737 --> 0:22:19.697 couldn't talk to each other and say, hey, this is 0:22:19.697 --> 0:22:23.297 all crazy, right, and then they distract you online. But 0:22:24.057 --> 0:22:27.817 I think one very interesting effect of all this is 0:22:27.897 --> 0:22:33.737 the explosion of Florida into a deep, you know, red 0:22:34.017 --> 0:22:36.577 state of which you are now a resident. And I 0:22:36.617 --> 0:22:39.577 think it is a very interesting phenomenon overall. I mean, 0:22:39.577 --> 0:22:41.137 I've certainly never seen anything. Because I want to talk 0:22:41.137 --> 0:22:43.457 to you more about that. Let's talk about the Florida, 0:22:43.937 --> 0:22:46.817 the Florida phenomenon, on the Florida Revolution. And you know, 0:22:46.857 --> 0:22:51.017 there are two very important Republican politicians who call Florida home, 0:22:51.297 --> 0:22:54.937 and one of them, our former president you had dinner 0:22:54.977 --> 0:22:56.697 with recently. You talked to him just a couple of 0:22:56.737 --> 0:22:59.417 weeks ago. I want to ask you about that too. 0:22:59.497 --> 0:23:04.617 We're here with Rogan Ohhandley DC Draino. 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