1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In incase you didn't notice, I'm 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: not broke, you know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Absolutely, 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: it's a Monday, could be Joos, it could be Wednesday, 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: depends on when you're hearing my podcast and hearing my 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: radio show and syndication. I'm here delivering information. I'm your 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald. You're listening to Money Making Conversation. 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Each Money Making Conversation radio talk show podcast is about 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide the consumer and business owner 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: goal is to share advice that I've been given to me, 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: advice that I've given the people over the years. A 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of people have big dreams. They don't have plans 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: associated with those dreams. My shows to try to break that, 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: uh down that wall to say you cannot achieve a 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: dream a dream while achieving a plan, and the plan 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: has to be written. It can not be hoped upon, 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: it cannot be it can be preyed upon. But the prayer, 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: that prayer has to turn into work. A lot of 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: people will tend to put a lot of weight on 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: that prayer. Let's say they jump out there, leap of faith. 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: I've heard those statements before, the right place, right time. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: You know, it was my moment. Okay, where is it 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: written down? Though? You gotta write that all. I gotta 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: write all those moments down. Oh, he guess what. It's 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: not gonna happen the way you wanted to happen. Believe me, 32 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: because of the fact that I've been in that chair 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: where I've just been hoping that I call it a 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: lot of experience. You just sit around and just be 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: hoping that it's gonna happen. I planned a lot of 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: it's my time, it's my it's my journey, it's my moment. 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: It's what they're no guarantees. My guests in turn, deliver 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy, and how they 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: leave their balanced life. My next guest ranged as a 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: young man. First of all, we're gonna go back to 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: l A days. But then I was at uh very 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Holly Robinson, Pete and the husband. 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: Now you do a artistic event. They've been a charity 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: racer in regards to her father. Uh, and I would 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: attend it. Uh. Finally I finally showed up. I give 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: money all the time. I finally showed up. And Uh, 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood A shocked that I showed up this ship actually 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: with she hollo my name during the event, and I said, yes, 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: she was actually stunned that I was there. But when 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: you go out in public, you tend to meet people 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: haven't seen a long time and also realized the impact 52 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: that you made and just basic conversation. Just I guess 53 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: you could say mentoring, and that's what I try to 54 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: do when I meet individuals. My next guest is a 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: celebrated celebrity Master Barber Award winning actor, director, producer, and screenwriter. 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. Louis T. Powe. Hey, Hey, 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: how's everybody doing out there? My man Rushian. At first, 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: I want to say Sean, you know, thank you for 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: all that you do the philanthropy, philanthropy work. You know, 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: you've really been a pillar in the community man, just 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: stepping out there with graciousness and abundance man and sharing 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: that wealth with everybody. Man. And that's just such a 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: blessing to have people like you circumventing. Uh. Like I said, 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: for the culture, and I want to say thank you. 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: You've been a star supporter of Holly Robinson Pete Foundation. Man. Uh. 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: I've seen you give on numerous occasions, Man, from your heart, 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: and it's just a beautiful thing to see. Well, you know, 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: the thing about it is that there's no reason that's 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to why I give. There's the there's the fact that 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I have took you and then um I've lived. I 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: realized that I affect too many different people. I've started 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: foundations for other friends of mind and HLP them pushing 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: into the right direction. One of my big things and 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: doing right now is for HBCUs your graduate of HBCU 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Howard University, Howard University, where I'm trying to become a 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: media force along with Stephen A. Smith if to bring 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: brand awareness to UH. It really kind of annoys me 78 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: the treatment of hbc uses because it's always feel like 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: the the words struggle it's tied to an HBCU schools 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: always look like, you know, we ask it for a 81 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: financial handout from the government and uh, and it tends 82 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: to really muddy down the great institutions that HBCUs are. 83 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk to us about that experience, because I'm on 84 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the HBCU stations, UH schools carried by 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: show as well. It's serious actually one forty one at 86 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: one forty two, Yeah, I mean, you know to that point, 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: it is it is it's always like you said that, 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: people always try to associate struggle with HBCUs. Right, you 89 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: look at institutions like how it has been over I 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: mean been around for over a hundred years and and 91 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: as as well as other established black hbc us that 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: don't give it get as much credit, you know, I 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: mean struggling. I mean when you look at some of 94 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: the most prominent doctors and black lawyers and accountants and 95 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: physicis my mother's and Howard Graduate. You know, she came 96 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: out in the sixth seven and she's an accountant. And 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: when I look at her alumni being, you know, she's 98 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: a Delta sigma THEATA, and it's like I look at 99 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: a lot of her little events that they have, and 100 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: it's like all these professionals, uh, financially well off people 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: that have actually been sewing back into their communities in 102 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: various different states all over the United State. I mean, 103 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: excuse me, all over the United States. So when you 104 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: look at the struggle that people say that the HBCUs have, 105 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I think that that's just the media putting out some 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: kind of propaganda, you know, in a way to kind 107 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: of shine the light off of excellence that we've always 108 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: been bringing. Now also, you you mentioned your your mom, 109 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: your dad. Now you're a master barber and your dad, 110 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about that relationship. You know, you kind of 111 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: push you in that direction. Or it was just a 112 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: natural you know, tell my father I do with my father. Yeah, 113 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: it was, it was it was kind of like a 114 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: natural progression. You know in the Washington, d c. Area, 115 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: barber shops have been around since nineteen sixty five. You know, Um, 116 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: I have a younger brother. My younger brother, he has 117 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: like four beauty and barber shows in the DC Maryland areas, 118 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: and I know, our families probably know each other. So 119 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: it's like because it's like we had one off Upstra Street, uh, 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Lamont Street and Georgia Avenue, Kennedy Street and Street Northeast. 121 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: So it's like when I started off in Barbara and 122 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: my father actually brought us. It's about seventeen barbers in 123 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: my family. Yeah, it's it's a it's a good it's 124 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: it's it's stretched in far, far and few between. Man. 125 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: But I started off in the shop signing shoes and Nichols, 126 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: Diames and corn sweeping guys backs off. Uh. You know, 127 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I was a little kid when the guy would jump 128 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: off the chair and and if he didn't want to 129 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: tip me, man, I'll sweep you all the way till 130 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: you got out the door. I would embarrass you because 131 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: you know, to tip me. Man. It was it was cool, 132 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: it was cool, but it was it was a progression 133 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: where you know, I jumped off into that space. And 134 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: by the time I was about thirteen, I remember the 135 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: first headcut. I really kind of just gaffled and was 136 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: my cousin Glenn Johnson. Uh, my father came home and 137 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: he came out of the Uh, he came out of 138 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: this little room in the basement and it looked at 139 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: it and he was like, I didn't know you wanted 140 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: to grab the tools yet, I see you need some work. 141 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: I can't let moments. Yeah, well, you know, being you, 142 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: you know you talk about your dad being a barber. 143 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's the core being entrepreneur. You know, 144 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: he's taking the talent. Said, look, as long as I 145 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: got these sealss, I can make money somewhere. You know 146 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: that that really I remember when I left IBM and 147 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: as to pursue my career as a stand up comic, 148 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: I always felt that no matter what, unlike an actor 149 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: I had, that an actor has to wait on an 150 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: opportunity as a stand up As long as I can 151 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: tell jokes, I can get on stage and make me 152 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: some money. And it was it was really really empowered 153 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: me a lot in my career. If I would say 154 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: that I was an actor just waiting on the opportunity 155 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to versus, Hey, you just let me on that stage, 156 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: let me stay, give me fifteen minutes, You're gonna write 157 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: me a check. And so that that really uh that 158 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: even though you into the entertainment because you have that 159 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: skill set, doesn't it give you a really uh an 160 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: unbridled about uh confidence that most of what you can 161 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: still exist. Yeah, because that's one of the reasons why 162 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I created padlock Man as longer. On the entrepreneurial business side, 163 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where, you know, I've 164 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: always worked as an independent you know, when I worked 165 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: in music, you know, I pushed the record to billboard 166 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: shots out of my living room. You know, it was 167 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: uh when I was at the space of when I 168 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: my barbering business, it was like, you know, I cut 169 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: numerous celebrities fifty cents outcast Dwyane Wade, uh and it 170 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: was like one of those things. I built my business accordingly, 171 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: so each one of them worked together, and I find 172 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: when I looked at padlock Man, it was it was 173 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: just another etching, that etching that space. You know. My 174 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: first two films I saw independently, and I was like, 175 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,479 Speaker 1: you know what, well, I can't I create a pilot myself. 176 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Why can't I go out and take this pilot chop it, 177 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: and why can't I figure out the distribution and financing 178 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: myself also to take that to the next level, which 179 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: in which in return can incorporate me as an actor 180 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: as a director and as a score, you know, for 181 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: for music. And then on top of that, it's like 182 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: I want to be in the lane to try to 183 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: create more opportunities not just for myself but people outside 184 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: of me. And when you start creating that ecosystem as 185 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, obviously you know that all of it pays 186 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: dividends man backwards and forward. So it really is amazing 187 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, I always tell people 188 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: and even in this conversation is when I'm talking to you, 189 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: and it's it's about understanding your opportunities. Now, how does 190 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: the social media, how does brand marketing play a role? 191 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: And how do you get the word out that also 192 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: you can give out your handles that. Yeah, brand marketing 193 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: plays a big part. I mean, you know, in this 194 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: day and time, we live in technology flows, you know. 195 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean back when I first started, it was like 196 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: the bab Shop was the information super Highway. But now 197 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: we look at Instagram, Facebook and Twitter and you know, 198 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: and all these different avenues where we actually can't share 199 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: our gifts with the world. And I think it's one 200 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: of those things finding your audience, finding your niche, and 201 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: then building upon that niche of the people that actually 202 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: support you and starting the steam roll effect to turn 203 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: that over and over again to grow your audience more 204 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like sometimes what I look at a 205 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: lot of times nowadays is people stretch themselves too thin 206 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: instead of saying, you know what if I can find 207 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: a core of one thousand people or five hundred people, man, 208 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: it will support me. You know, one would I'd rather 209 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: have a thousand people to support me a hundred percent 210 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: or what I had rather have a thousand people only 211 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: support me ten percent or five thousand people only support 212 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: me one percent. You know, I'd rather find that initial audience, 213 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: cater to them, keep building that steam roll effect to 214 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: build my brand, build my business. And as I move along, 215 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I know one thing, relationships network opens up wider. And 216 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: then on top of that, like I said, people become 217 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: more fans and you have more advocates man to create 218 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: more substantial business. Yeah. Well, you know the thing about 219 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: it is when you look at the business that you're in, 220 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know you mentioned celebrity names that you 221 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: does that help most most because you know you're in 222 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: an intimate relationship when you're cutting their hair and then 223 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: you're also or an actor also director, producer. How does 224 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: that How does that you know, how does that talk 225 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: to us about balance? Yeah? You know what, That's one 226 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: of the things I've always kind of pride of myself, 227 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: and because I feel like, like going back to the entrepreneur, 228 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: every business that you do, no matter what it is, 229 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a reflection of you. So you know, I'll 230 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: give you a prime example. I went up to Cut 231 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: fifty one time for Bloomberg Business Week, right and I 232 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: walked in. I would always wear suits, come in with 233 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: a doctor brief, you know what I mean. So I 234 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: walked in, I would get there about thirty forty five 235 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: minutes earlier. A lot of times they thought I was 236 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: fifties manager. They're like, oh, what does this gool Mr 237 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: Powell done? Like I look, I'm I'm the barber. But 238 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: at the same time, that reflection when when I first 239 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: started off in the barbering business, I would always pdf 240 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: my my invoices to all of the companies because I 241 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, if I ever get a 242 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: chance to run across them again, they were look and say, oh, 243 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: well this guy he's a director. To oh he's a 244 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: he's a writer, and he's an actor. But I remember 245 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: when he worked as a barber. That guy was so professional. 246 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: He pdf this invoice. He was always on time, he 247 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: was intelligent, he was articulate. You know. The setting the 248 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: stage so I get ready to cross that threshold in 249 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: the future on any other than deva deva and entertainment, 250 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: especially within the celebrity space. Is you know what, let 251 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: me hear what this guy has to say. Let me 252 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: take his call. Why because I set the stage absolutely. Uh. 253 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: You know, as we wrapped this interview up. You know, 254 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: we all you're not close to leaving this earth. We 255 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: always have these journeys that we're trying to. Uh. What's 256 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: the future. What's the future? Mr Pow Let me tell 257 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: you the future for me is you all are going 258 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: to see Dynamite limited series on HBO from Padlockman. I'm 259 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: building a production company, an ecosystem for distribution. We're going 260 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: to create an ecosystem for UH to incubate talent from 261 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: animators to writers, directors, producers, all in the house. Uh. 262 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: And on top of that, it's like I just want 263 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: to build a blessing like my man Rashan here and 264 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: be able to give back to the people man to 265 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: deserve it. Man and just to be able to try 266 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: to create a synergy man of goodness, man and just 267 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: shared love, wealth, intelligence and health. Well, it was great 268 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: seeing you again live and studio. So notice you have 269 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: a home now you know you got my contact information 270 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and so just keep us a post abreast of the steps. 271 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Anything you're doing. This none related to the project. You know, 272 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: like fences, you might want to give us that cover 273 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: of boss Man. Put the posting on our social part 274 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: of your brand. It's part of being recognized for your excellence. 275 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: And again, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation. 276 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Oh man, Thank you again with Sean. It was a 277 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: pleasure being here and everybody out there. You can catch 278 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: me on my handles at Louis T. Powle that's on Instagram, 279 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: at Louis T. Poe Twitter and at Louis T. Poe 280 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: on Facebook. Appreciate you, Appreciate your teammates. We're coming right 281 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: back with more money Making Conversations. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, 282 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: the host of Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself, 283 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: who calls Rushan Shell, please walk on the money Making Conversations. 284 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: La La Anthony, we met you know used always the 285 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: Sean can you give, always talk to you about everything, 286 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: everything and looking at you and Steve Harvey. You know 287 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: that motivated me too because I would see all the 288 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: amazing things you guys are doing it not just being 289 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: on the radio like at that time, and even now, 290 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: you know people want to put people in boxes. Please 291 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations. The incredible Nick Cannon. Do 292 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: you truly one of them our mentors and one of 293 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: the people that showed me that you can be multifasciative. 294 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: You know for a fact, now that you're about to 295 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: capture an audience, it's going to have a spending power 296 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: for at least another twenty years, three years. Like my happiness, 297 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: money doesn't make you happy, but happy makes your money. 298 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot money Making 299 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Conversations dot com. Hi. Ras Sean McDonald host The Money 300 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Making Conversation. Hi again, this is Roshan McDonald. Just give 301 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: my voice tone. Get you right, because I got one 302 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: of my favorite guests on the on the show is 303 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: about to everybody know. I get a little extra excited 304 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: when I talked to people about food. So I gotta 305 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: calm down. I gotta calm down because each money Making 306 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,479 Speaker 1: Conversation radio talk show or podcast is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. 307 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: I provide the consumer and business owner access to celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, 308 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: and industries industry decision makers. They, in turn, my guests 309 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: deliver information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy, and how 310 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: they lead a balanced life, their motivation life. My guests 311 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: have really been been tuning into delivering these messages, this 312 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: message on the regular basis. I'm really excited about my 313 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: next guest. He's an owner executive chef as means food 314 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: of several very popular restaurants. He was born and raised 315 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: in St. Petersburg, Florida, and attended college at the University 316 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: of Florida. That means he's he's the Gator. He's he's 317 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: the Gator. Okay, all right, sec okay cool. After graduating 318 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: with a dual degree in business administration and sports management, 319 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: he decided to enroll in culinary school. Okay, now that's 320 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: a that's a switch. Now, please working. He's here to 321 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: tell his story and all the success he's had over 322 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: the years since he's graduated with that culinary degree. Please 323 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation. Ed warddo Jordan's thank you 324 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: for having me, my man? Oh pretty good? Where you 325 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Where are you at right now? Where are you calling from? 326 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Right now? I'm in Seattle, Washington. I'm home before I'm 327 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: headed to work, Seattle, Washington. Now, I've been to Seattle 328 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: a couple of times. As you do stand up comedy. 329 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: I went up there way back in the day, did 330 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: some jokes up there. I stopped in there when I 331 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: was going to Vancouver for a cruiminess. So but I'm 332 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. Let's let's talk a little bit 333 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: about you before we get to this. This, this menu, 334 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: that that that that really and I'm already told I'm 335 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna just tell you this, ed WARDO. Um, I'm you're 336 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: gonna see me before the year out brother, that you're 337 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: gonna see I'm letting everybody know you're gonna find out 338 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: why why I'm gonna go up there with my wife's 339 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: she's already she's already signed off. She's gonna be coming 340 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: up there with you. Got to get to day. Do 341 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: you have a chef table at your restaurants and we 342 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: will make a table before you there. You go, okay, cool, 343 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Then let's talk about the beginning because I talked about, uh, 344 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: we talked about the degrees and the business administration and 345 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: that still that still helps you out now because you're 346 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: you're you know, your your owner, your entrepreneur, so that 347 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: degree in the business administration does help you out. Then 348 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: you went into sports management. How did the whole culinary 349 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: part of your life start to rise to the top. Well, 350 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, I honestly, I started with food at the 351 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: age of nine. Um. You know, food has always been 352 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: um an intimate part of like, uh, my experience growing up. Um. 353 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: You know, when I was nine years old, my mom 354 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: put me in the kitchen because she noticed that I 355 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: had an interest for food, because I was always asking 356 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: my grandmother questions. My grandmother a Southerner, She's originally from 357 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: kro Georgia, and you know, her specialty was cooking to 358 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: go lavish mills for the family and friends to come 359 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: over and hang out her at her house. Um, you know, 360 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: for family unions, after church, you know, all the holidays. 361 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: It was all about grandma. And so you know, I 362 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: took an interest into foods then and there, and I 363 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: guess that kind of you know, played a role in 364 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: my life later on, when I was decided on the 365 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: real direction that I wanted to go in on my 366 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: true passion. Um. So it was all about like that 367 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: that foundation with mom and grandmother of like hospitality and food, 368 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: Mom showing me around the kitchen, my mom giving me 369 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: my first cookbook as probably like the age of Pan 370 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: or eleven, I don't remember the exact time period. Um. 371 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: The question what the question that will pop out is 372 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: that you said, it's just nine. Why didn't you immediately 373 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: go into that direction? Why did you go to oh man? Um? 374 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: You know it was it was kind of like, you know, 375 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: the reality is, Um, you know, my mom and my 376 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: dad wanted me to go to college. Was the first 377 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: person in my family to go to college. And we're 378 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: talking about extended family too. Um. And so that mission 379 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: was to make sure that I, you know, get an education, 380 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: also get a degree that it's gonna send me in 381 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: the path that they thought and believe it's gonna be 382 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: great for me and you know, become a doctor, become 383 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: a lawyer, become a sports agent or something that dictated 384 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: high pain, well established job with benefits, etcetera. So, Um, 385 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: their mission was just point me in the right direction, 386 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: and cooking was definitely not the direction. They assumed that 387 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: I should be going in because it's gonna be real. 388 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, you've got a lot of cooks out there, 389 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: but don't have a lot of chiefs of color out there. 390 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Feller exactly. And even the reality is, you know, um 391 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: the quote in their world is a very hard world. 392 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're working, you know, thirteen fourteen hours a day, um, 393 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: not getting paid the highest wages and um, you know, 394 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: dollar for dollar hour per hour, you're definitely working way 395 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: more than most doctors and most lawyers for you know, 396 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: far less. So they saw, you know, me going to 397 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: college as a as a better direction for me, and 398 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: they definitely encouraged me, like, you know, follow my dreams 399 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: and everything, like cook enjoy it. You'll become a doctor, 400 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: and then one day you can own your own restaurant 401 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: while you're a doctor. Right kind of thing. Okay, Now, 402 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: so we're with Florida having a good time. That's big 403 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: football powerhouse, basketball powerhouse. So you so you then then 404 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: the cooking really is what you want to do. You 405 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: you've satisfied their expectation, their dreams. I always tell people, 406 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: you can't report degree, So I love it. I love 407 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: the fact my degree is a mathmatics. You can't. They 408 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: can't come in and go, you know something, that degree after, 409 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna take that degree. After, we're gonna take you 410 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: the way from No, you can't do that. You can't 411 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: do it. Why don't that degree? He's that wall And 412 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: you say, I'm out. We're good. We're good. Okay, I 413 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: don't care what that college loan is. We're good, We're good. 414 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: And so so the beauty of what you at right 415 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: now is that I love this conversation because it talks 416 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: about defining your path. It talks about understanding that I 417 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: can I can accomplish many things, but all those are 418 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: things that I really want to do. And so cooking 419 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: is what you really wanted to do. And so I was, 420 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: here's the thing that we want to talk about, because 421 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: climbing the ladder to be a chef, humbleness, low pay, 422 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: long hours again, homeleness. You know, sometimes you're being bullied 423 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: because people have power over you and you have to 424 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: be able to navigate that. And then you're a person 425 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: of color, so there's a lot of roquestions. Then you stigmatize, Yeah, 426 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: you stigmatize, you know what what, especially if you want 427 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: to go outside of what they think you can do, 428 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, so just talk about 429 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: that journey a little bit there. Yeah, I mean it 430 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: was a it was a it was a hard, very strenuous, 431 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: humbling journey. You know. I ended up going to culinary school, um, 432 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: after graduating from the University of Florida. So I was 433 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: a little bit older than most people in culinary school. 434 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: I think it was like five years old. UM, So 435 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking like an elder year old. UM. But I 436 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: was stremely focused and and I realized, like in culinary 437 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 1: school that was a reality check, you know, it was 438 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: we probably had ten percent of people of color there, 439 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: and out of that ten percent, probably five percent graduated. 440 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: Of that five percent that graduated, two percent ended up 441 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: finding a decent job. And out of that two percent, 442 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: you got me the one percent that is still remaining 443 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: that I know of. Um. And so that was pretty 444 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: much my my journey in my path because as I 445 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: ended up going, you know, to get you know, distinguished 446 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: jobs that distinguished locations. I ended up becoming an intern 447 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: or apprenticeship at the French Laundry and Napple Valley, you know, 448 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: one of the most prestigious restaurants in the in the 449 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: in the world, I should say, but definitely in this country. Um. 450 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: You know that was that was that was the stepping 451 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: stone to my career. But at that at the same time, 452 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: I realized that, you know, I was again of that organization. 453 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't many people of color there. And 454 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: as I progressed in my career, you know, I had 455 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: to humble myself more because I was in the fine 456 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: dining world. And as you move up in that ladder 457 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: of cuisine, the style of cuisine, you know, the level 458 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: of restaurants, you'll realize that that present is trinkles down 459 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: more and more with people of color, women, minorities of etcetera. Um. 460 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: And the reality check was that, you know, it was 461 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: a white chef's world for me, absolutely running them. And 462 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: that's a that's an honest statement to talk about, you know, 463 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: not not because you know, because of the fact that 464 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: the reality is is we don't know what goes on 465 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: behind closed doors, and that's what can't you go You 466 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: see food being brought out and even then people complaining 467 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes that's when a lot of for some reason 468 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: chefs always come to my table. You know, I guess 469 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: because I just love food. They go, you like your 470 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: real good go. Yeah, it's fine, that's fine, and I 471 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: will send food back now if I don't like it, 472 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: I said, hey, dude, I'm sorry, it's just not working 473 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: for me to do that work for me to pay 474 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: for Absolutely give them absolutely. Now let's talk about because 475 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to get that part of the story out, 476 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: that part of the journey out, because we want to 477 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: talk about the uniqueness of your success story. And it didn't. 478 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: It continues to grow. Explain everybody. The James Beard Award, 479 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: oh man, So you know, think about the Emmies and 480 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: the oscars UM and the James Beard is just as 481 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: equal for the culinary world UM as those prestigious awards. UM. 482 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: It's it's the foundation one started, you know, to recognize 483 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: the culinary arts world, chefs and restaurant tours, um industry 484 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: movements and shakers by distinguishing them with once a year 485 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: honoring the best of the best. And you know, I'm 486 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: I can say I'm fairly blessed with the fact. Come on, 487 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: I talked to him. Tell us what you got man 488 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: to with two distinguished awards in one year, which is 489 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: unheard of. You know, for one for one minority. To 490 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: Um achieved that award in one year, it's it's a 491 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: feat on his own. But to to achieve two recognitions 492 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: for Best Chef um Northwest and Best New Restaurant in 493 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: the Country James for um Um June Baby, it's you 494 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: know that it which is mind blowing. It was out 495 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: of the universe. It was unheard of, you know, the 496 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: first time that ever has happened. You know, I have 497 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: a lot of I have a lot of first in 498 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: my in my in my career, and I and I 499 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: strived and pride myself on being first. I was the 500 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: first black chef ever to grate the cover of Food 501 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: and Wine magazine at Best New Chef two thousand and sixteen. 502 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: You know that that's that's pretty huge. You think about 503 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: at least some of the culinary um dignitaries that have 504 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: have walked walked around here. You got you know, you 505 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: got Marcus Samuson Clark. You know, you've got some very 506 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: distinguished black chefs that have done great things that have 507 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: not ever made it to that cover of that magazine. 508 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: And that's now, that was a big honor, and that 509 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: was a big, big piece in the start of of 510 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: people recognizing and and and realizing the talent that I have. 511 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I printed out this menu. I came in here and 512 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: let you know I love what you do. Keep doing 513 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You will see me this year. Uh, 514 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: Samantha will reach out to you. Gonna it's gonna be 515 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: on the weekend. I'm gonna come up there. We're gonna 516 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: have a good time. We're gonna laugh, man, and uh, 517 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat and we're gonna tell stories. And I'm 518 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna support your bread and congratulations for packing a glass 519 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: ceiling and uh, and I'm gonna keep supporting you man, 520 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: And You've got something going on that special and you 521 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: are very special. Thank you for doing my show, money 522 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the host of 523 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. You say to yourself who calls Rushan Shell, 524 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: please walcome to Money Making Conversations, La La Anthony. We 525 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: met you know us always can you give? Always talk 526 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: to you about every face everything and looking at you 527 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: and Steve Harvey. You know that motivated me too because 528 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: I would see all the amazing things you guys are doing. 529 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: It not just being on the radio time like at 530 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: that time and even now. You know people want to 531 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: put people in boxes. Please welcome to money Making Conversations. 532 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: The incredible Nick Cannon. You truly one of them our 533 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: mentors and one of the people that showed me that 534 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: you can be multi fascinated. You know for a fact, 535 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: now that you're about to capture an audience, it's going 536 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: to have a spending power for at least another twenty years, 537 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: three years. Like my happiness and money doesn't make you happy, 538 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: for happy makes your money. Money Making Conversations continues online 539 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: at www Dot money Making Conversations dot com. Money Making 540 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: Conversations continues online at www Dot money Making Conversations dot 541 00:27:52,840 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: com and follow money Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 542 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: The next guest uh has landed her on her work. Wow, 543 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: you know she is the first time her own Money 544 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Her work has landed her on many lists, 545 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: including being named one of the seventeen Glamour Magazine Women 546 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: of the Year, the hashtag Woke one hundred by s 547 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: S Magazine, and Christian is one of the female faces 548 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: of the New Civil Rights Movement by Black Entertainment Television 549 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: b ET. In addition to appearances and features and media 550 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: outlets including NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, Vogue, New York Magazine, Forbes, ESPN, 551 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: TV one, The Huffington Post, News one, and degreeo dot com, 552 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: among others. Please welcome the money Making Conversations. The director 553 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: of National Partnerships for air BnB, Jena Ingram, Hi, how 554 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: are you? Did I get out of that? Did I 555 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: say a lot about you that you did? You did? 556 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: And sometimes I still when I hear that, I'm like, really, 557 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: I did that? Okay, you know you really you know, 558 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: I have a general tendency just uh. I felt when 559 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: I was reading your bio that you're a grinder in 560 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: other words, you know, you just you accomplished task. You're 561 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: not a person that sits back and look at your 562 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: your past efforts because you're always moving forward. In general, 563 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: because of that, you tend to not realize the greatness 564 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: on the path that you are. The journey that you 565 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: create is pretty impressive. My friend, Well, thank you, And 566 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. It is keeping my 567 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: nose down to the grindstone and just continuing to push 568 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: forward and um finding new ways to be impactful. So 569 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: hearing you know, being reminded of the path that that 570 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: I've created is always um, it's always inspiring, even for myself, 571 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: and just you know, says a lot about the journey. Um, 572 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: when you're committed to something and committed to doing good. 573 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting when I when I hear 574 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: your brs because I hear a humble first, I hear 575 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: a humble person that I'm communicating with, and it's almost 576 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: um when I hear that humbleness, and almost doesn't surprise 577 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: you that that. You know, we all always go back 578 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: to college, and I was just I was just in college, Okay. 579 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: I was trying to get an education, trying to get 580 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: sometimes trying to get to the next party, trying to 581 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: get past that grade, just trying to get there. And 582 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: then I looked twenty years thirty years later, I go, wow, 583 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: that's that's a lot. That's a lot going on in 584 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: your life for Sean. What what stands out the most 585 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: in your career so far? Because it's not stopping, I 586 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, I mean there are so many things 587 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: and moments. Um, I think if I had to stay 588 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, my work right now is is really impressive 589 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: and not to diminish it, but I do think the 590 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: high point for me and something that I'm still really 591 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: really proud of is planning the Women's March UM. And 592 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: that for me was something that I never I didn't 593 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: go into it envisioning that I would be making history 594 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: UM or envisioning that the turnout would be what it was. 595 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: I kind of went in because I was passionate about 596 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: creating space for people UM to raise their grievances and 597 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: and that was, you know, I was. I was committed 598 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: to the cause of justice and ensuring that you know, 599 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: again UM, all of the people who were saying that 600 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: they were going to come, We're going to come to Washington, 601 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: DC and have UM have an opportunity to have their 602 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: collective voices heard. And it was something where if I 603 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: would have known what I was doing when when I 604 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: was asked, like, will you come out with this, I 605 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: probably would have said no because I would have been afraid. UM. 606 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: I would have been afraid that I was going to SAIL. 607 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I would have been afraid of all of the many 608 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: things that could have gone wrong. Logistics overwhelming. It is. 609 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: It is overwhelming, and I don't think people really understand 610 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: the complexities that are involved UM. And maybe they do, 611 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: because you know, I had Prior to that march, I 612 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: had planned the fiftieth anniversary the March on Washington, and 613 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: I was younger. Um, I was a newer face in DC. 614 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, people knew me, but you know, I had 615 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: worked for Reverend Sharpton, and people just saw me as 616 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: someone who works for Reverend Sharpton and never understood maybe 617 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: the skills and talents that I had. UM. And so 618 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: I remember planning the fiftieth anniversary of the March on 619 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: Washington and some of the seniors and an elder saying 620 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: to me, you know, listen, baby girl, hand me this 621 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: march because I don't know that you you know, it's 622 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: a lot, and it's it's probably too much for you 623 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: to handle. And and I said no. I mean, you know, 624 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: I was clear that first of all, Reverend Sharks that 625 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: had entrusted me with with planning that march and leading 626 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: that effort um, and you know, I didn't want to 627 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: disappoint him. So I said, no, we got it, um. 628 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: And it made a lot of people sort of stand 629 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: up and look at me and say, oh, okay, she 630 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: does she can do this, um, but never once and 631 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: planning that fiftieth anniversary of the march on Washington. Did 632 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: anyone ever say to me do you have a permit? Like, 633 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: do you know what you're doing? Outside of the elder 634 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: saying you know, this is a lot and you probably 635 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: need some help. Um. Whereas with the march, the Women's March, 636 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: us having a permit became you know, it became front 637 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: page news of like the Women's Marches happening, but they 638 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: don't even have a permit, um, and and folks don't 639 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: understand like what the permitting processes. I had done it 640 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: a lot, and so for me it was like, Okay, 641 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: I know this process, and I know what we're gonna 642 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: have to go through, and I know what it takes 643 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: to get a permit. But it became sort of a spectacle, 644 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: and I think um overcoming all of the naysayers, people 645 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: who said the Women's March is not going to happen 646 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: because they don't have a permit. The Women's March, you know, 647 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: is it's gonna it's gonna flop. It's you know, people 648 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: won't show up. All of the things that the naysayers 649 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: were saying. That does come across you know, the you know, 650 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: the whole you know, I go all the way back 651 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: to the million man march. You know, you know that 652 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: that was the ultimate nay sayer that uh that why 653 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: would they come and what was the general purpose? And 654 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: so but it is, you know, all you do, you 655 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: you you you put the tools in place. That's that's 656 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: what you did. And then and then they came. Let's 657 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: let's walk through the process of you know, because you know, 658 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: you kind of get away about it, the buses that 659 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: are coming, the hotels that are being booked up, the 660 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: airlines that are going to have a difficulty coming in 661 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: and being you know, you start getting a little signs 662 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: you know that, Okay, something's happening here. And so when 663 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: did that tingle really run up your back on? My god, 664 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: it's happening. It's really really happening. I mean, I think 665 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: it sort of happened along the way. So when when 666 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: we planned the Women's March collectively, um, you know, there 667 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: were there were a lot of moving pieces and um, 668 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: but I really owned the piece that was what people 669 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: showed up and experienced specifically in DC, and then with 670 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: touchpoints and connections with all of them marches across the 671 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: country and so like you know, helping folks with logistics 672 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: and different parts of the country, but it happened. We 673 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: started planning two months before the march happened, and in 674 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: those two months you also had four holidays. You had Thanksgiving, Christmas, 675 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, and King Day, um, and so a 676 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of people were taking off enjoying vacations. And to 677 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: be honest, I actually, you know, I did take a 678 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: vacation even in the midst of all of the march's 679 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: planning UM, and that was because of the experience that 680 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: I had had doing it. But yeah, but a lot 681 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: of it was, you know, a lot of it was ongoing. 682 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: So when I signed on, it was like, Okay, a 683 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,959 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people are going to show up to this march. 684 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: And that was really through a Facebook post. So facebook post, 685 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of like, yeah, you say you're 686 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: gonna come, but are you really going to come? And 687 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: then as we started to get bus numbers and as 688 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: we started to get you know, flight numbers, I think 689 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: it really really didn't hit me until maybe the week 690 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: of the march. Quite frankly, let's talk about your your 691 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: national partnership. Let's go, because I don't want to get 692 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: off the phone without explaining exactly you went into detail 693 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: different organization. Is it. Are you in a position where 694 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: people reach out to you or are you reach out 695 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: to them to create these partnerships? How exactly does that 696 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: work for air B and B. Generally it is people 697 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: reaching out to us. I mean, but I think that 698 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: there are opportunities where we I will reach out to 699 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, an organization or UM a leader and say 700 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: we want to engage you for a specific thing. But 701 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: generally it is lots of organizations reaching out to me 702 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: and to us as a company and wanting to work 703 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: with us. And I think we are a brand that 704 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: is I would say there are a lot of people 705 00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: who know about um UM. Generally people are interested because 706 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a younger brand. The company was 707 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: founded in two thousand and eight, so we're just barely 708 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: eleven years old. But um our name has become sort 709 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: of a noun um in terms of like when you're 710 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: sharing your your house, it's like, oh, I'm gonna Airbnb. 711 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: You know, I'm staying at an Airbnb, And even if 712 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: it's not legitimately an Airbnb. I think that we we 713 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: have become sort of the Kleenex, if you will, the 714 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: Kleenex version of home Sharing and and and that's a 715 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: phenomenal thing, UM to have a company so young that 716 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: that that's able to become part of the lexicon that is, 717 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, synonymous with with home sharing. So UM, it's 718 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: it's really amazing to have that, And I think it 719 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: creates an appetite for people to say, we want to 720 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: work with you, we want to find out more about 721 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: what you're doing. And and then at the same time, 722 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: I think that there are things that people don't necessarily 723 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: under to stand about our business UM and and so 724 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: for example, we have UH experiences, which you mentioned, are 725 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: the local activities that people can do, and I think 726 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: that that's a newer product that people are still just 727 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: learning about or just figuring out. UM. I speak often 728 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 1: at conferences and different events, and was just at one 729 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: UM this past weekend in New Orleans and home sharing. 730 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people know, but then I say, 731 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: you know, how many of you have ever heard of 732 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: Airbnb experiences and the hands are are significantly fewer UM 733 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think it's there's an opportunity there. 734 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: And so in that instance, I might say we need 735 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: to do more with you know, ex community or with 736 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: X leader to ensure that people are knowing about Airbnb 737 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: experiences because you know, quite frankly, you don't have to 738 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: travel to do them. If you want to host one, 739 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: you don't need a home to host one in. So 740 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: if you're in a city where there are short term 741 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: rental regulations but you still want to flex your entrepreneurial muscle, 742 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: there's a way for you to do that through Airbnb 743 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: experiences and it doesn't cost you anything. It gives you 744 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: an audience of millions of people that your your product 745 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: is showing up in front of um and it's a 746 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: it's an easy way again to start a business if 747 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: you've had an idea about a business, or to really 748 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: profile your business. And it's like it's like free marketing. 749 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's free marketing to people who are traveling 750 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: to your city or people who live in your city 751 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: who want to see and do something different than what 752 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: they're normally doing. They're they're not trying to go to 753 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: the churches or to that home on a weekend. It's 754 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: prof ums Ingram, I want to thank you for coming 755 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: on my show. You're amazing now, I know in the 756 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: end here that's part of the conversation. I'd love to 757 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: bring you back on the show to get you more 758 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: detailed because at the first of the year, all right, 759 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: I always always the first of you, always to get 760 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: people ways that they can start motivating and planning and 761 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: seeing new opportunities. And that whole the airbnb experiences. I 762 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: think it's something that's not being spoken of a lot 763 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: because it's all about home sharing. That's that's that's true. 764 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: That's where you cut your teeth. The brain is cut 765 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: your teeth on that. But I know that from through 766 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: social media, through planning, that whole process is you're talking 767 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: about is the next way of great success with airbnb 768 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: and the fact that you can come in and market 769 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: and take advantage of an audience out there and expand 770 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: your brand. We need to talk more about that. Will 771 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: you come back. I would love to come back. It's 772 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: been enjoy talking to you and you've been fantastic and 773 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: I love talking to you because you took time to 774 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: pick the Rashaan McDonald your busy, busy, busy busy schedule. Hi, 775 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: this is Rushan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversation. 776 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: You say to yourself who alls with Sean Shell, please 777 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: walcome to money Making Conversations La La Anthony we met 778 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: you know used always can you give always talk to 779 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: you about everything, everything and looking at you and Steve Harvey. 780 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: You know that motivated me too because I would see 781 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: all the amazing things you guys are doing it not 782 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: just being on the radiome like at that time and 783 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: even now, you know people want to put people in boxes. 784 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. The incredible Nick Cannon. 785 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: You truly one of them our mentors and one of 786 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: the people that showed me that you can be MOSTI fascinative. 787 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: You know for a fact, now that you're about to 788 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: capture the audience, it's going to have a spending power 789 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: for least another twenty years, three years. Like my happiness 790 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: and money doesn't make you happy, but happy makes your money. 791 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot money Making 792 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: Conversations dot com. Hi did Sean McDonald you're listening to Uh? 793 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: I want to making conversations money man? Don't say to 794 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: my show? Yo show podcast indicated nationwide. You know wickens 795 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: uh hbc U campus is serious exam Spotify. I brought 796 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: you on. I you know, I had to make sure 797 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: that i'd elevated my game to the next level. And Uh, 798 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: let me introduce this young friend. She's actually been in 799 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: my she's actually been in Chicago for part Uh beat 800 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: me up because I didn't make anything for you. Hungry 801 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: What you gonna make for me? Oh my god, that's 802 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: what you were making all the pos and you didn't 803 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: make me. I couldn't even get a taste. You have 804 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: somebody come over to your house and they won't even 805 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: let you taste. To set over there and watch me 806 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 1: make all those pods? That was crazy? Are you still absolutely? 807 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to Kelly Clarkson, I'd be doing 808 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: it for her show today. Are you serious? Can I come? No? Man, 809 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 1: my next, I'm gonna you talked too much. My Next. 810 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: Is a graduate of the Goldman Sachs ten thousand K 811 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: Small Business Program for Entrepreneurs and an awardee of the 812 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: Entrepreneurship Entrepreneur of the Year by the Living Legends Foundations, 813 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: which I was happily there to see and that was 814 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: deeply moved and emotionally happy for her. A company B 815 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: y O B Be Your Own Brand, Be Your Own 816 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: Brand is a branding company that brands, projects, products, and 817 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: people with a three step process that Sheila developed while 818 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: being a marketing executive in the music business, and so 819 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: I met her. I never met her interesting when we're 820 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: talking about relationship because people always knew about it in 821 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: the music business, and then it was after which we 822 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: developed our relationship absolutely and she's very good at it. 823 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: B y O B isn't this tenth year and she 824 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: owns the trademark for B y O B. Which is 825 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: important to know is be your own brand. Please welcome 826 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: to the money making conversation. A good friend, enjoy her, afar, 827 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 1: admire her, and I very appreciated. Is appreciative that she's 828 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: in the studio today. Please welcome Sheila Coates. Who this is? 829 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: This being recorded? Because I need all of that friend, 830 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: he admires long time, all of those adjectives I've never 831 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: heard you say before. I'm impressed. But because I'm in 832 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: the studio, well, no, because you are special and you 833 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: you know your an individual and you called a niche 834 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: a clear understanding of what Brandon is all about. I 835 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: wanted before we get started because I was going through 836 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: a resume and in Missouri City, Texas, where I'm from Houston, Texas, 837 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with Missouri City, Texas. Now you did 838 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: the branding of the city of the city Missouri City, 839 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: so explain to everyone. And I want to start there 840 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: because that's because Missouri City, Texas is like a suburb 841 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: of Houston. Is a very influent, affluent community, very diverse community. 842 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: Diverse community is south of Houston. And when I read that, 843 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: I went, wow, that's really really cool. The talk to 844 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: the process of how you can approach to this is 845 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: a city. It's just a major city here, and I 846 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: mean a booming city. And how does that how to 847 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: breakdown the steps of a branding um, showing leadership and 848 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: being able to get the word out exactly well, you know, 849 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: everything I think is about relationships. So I met the 850 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: city manager coming in doing a leadership conference for him 851 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: through a good friend of mine named Anita cas Stile 852 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: and Anthony. After I did the leadership conference, had so 853 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: many of his key people like his fire chief and 854 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: his assistant manager and that person who ran his police 855 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: department say, you know, this is something new we've never 856 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: heard just before. We need to have her come back. 857 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 1: They were in the process of trying to distinguish themselves 858 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: from what is this sugar Land, So sugar Land gets 859 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: a lot more notoriety, but they wanted to find out 860 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: how people would know about them. And so my three 861 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: step process for branding their leadership team still is applicable 862 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: for branding a city. And so I said, well, what 863 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: are you known for? And more importantly, what do you 864 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: want to be known for? And then on top of that, 865 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: what can you deliver? And they couldn't answer those questions, 866 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: Like everybody has a mission statement, right, you go into 867 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: these cities and and they tell you we want to 868 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: be the place where you live and grow. And but 869 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when I come to 870 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: your city, what do you want me to know? It's 871 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: not about the logo, it's not about a tagline. It's 872 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: about the experience that I'm going to get when I 873 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: go into Missouri City. And that's when they realized they 874 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 1: didn't have that. And we're talking to move Missouri City, Texas, 875 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: which is a suburb right outside of Houston, Texas. It's 876 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: important because I grew up near Missouri City. It was 877 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: kind of like a city that, uh, you know, football power, 878 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: and and it kind of like went from just just 879 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: a regular little small community to an actual city, and 880 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: then they got pushed all the way to the to 881 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: the fifty nine side of the freeway. It grew. It 882 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: kind of like it started growing and just blossoming. And 883 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: you're right, sugar Land but has always been Imperial Sugar 884 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: always had that brand relationship and people knew exactly what 885 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: it was. But miss City still was like, Okay, yeah, 886 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: we're just here, and they called themselves most city. You know. Um, 887 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: they had some bad reputation problems for a little bit, 888 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: but they're really a friendly city. And so when we 889 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,479 Speaker 1: decided to take on the branding, I did this whole 890 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: concept with them that I do with people, but I 891 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: put it for the city and I had them tell 892 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: me what is it that they can deliver? And I 893 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: had all of their key uh stakeholders involved. I had 894 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: a lot of their employees involved, and I got back 895 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: a lot of feedback and they realized that there were 896 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 1: three things that they were known for. The key was, though, 897 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: do you appreciate those three things? Because you always think 898 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: I should be like Houston, or I should be more 899 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: like sugar Land. But if I'm a person coming to 900 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: the city, there are some things that I want to 901 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: know about this city that I know I can get 902 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: and it was amazing because then I tested it. After 903 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: they told me what the three attributes were, I went 904 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: around the city to see and I'm not joking. This 905 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: was probably one of the friendliest cities I've ever been at. 906 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: So they told me they wanted to be known for 907 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: their friendliness, for their ability to go above and beyond, 908 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: and for their ability to be a diverse family community. Right. 909 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: So when they said these things, I said, with then 910 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: you gotta be this. This is a true story. I 911 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: got a ticket in Missouri City going thirty five and 912 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: a thirty miles. Look are you serious? You guys pulled 913 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: me over. I got pulled over. I went through the 914 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: process of paying for the ticket instead of calling the 915 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: police chief, which I was thinking about doing since I 916 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: had met him, because I wanted to see how they 917 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: operated in every little area of you know, the city. 918 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 1: So I go to this place to pay for the ticket. 919 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: This lady couldn't be nicer. When I came in the door, 920 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 1: she said, good morning, how are you? How can I 921 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 1: help you? And I'm thinking, okay, this is definitely not 922 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: l a right, right, I come in. She I was 923 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 1: in the wrong, usual right, So she says to me, 924 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: you're in the wrong place. Um, but hold on a minute. 925 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: Let me make a call for you and I'll find 926 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: out exactly where you need to go. She calls, She 927 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: calls the lady. She gives me the address she took. 928 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, maybe she knows I'm checking the 929 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: background at this place. So sweet. I go to the 930 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: next place. Before I could get in, HI, how are you. 931 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: I was told to ask for hold on, let me 932 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: go get it for you. They were friendly, They went 933 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: above and beyond. This is what they told me that 934 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: they wanted. These ladies didn't know that I was the 935 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: branding person, and I was checking to see if the 936 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: information that they had shared with me was really what 937 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: they did. It was dead on. So I do this 938 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: whole thing. I go around a couple of places. I 939 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: go to some stores. I go I'm I'm checking because 940 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: I said, if you tell me this is who you are, 941 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: I should feel this from the people that are working 942 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: in your city. Long story short, I did that for 943 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: like maybe a week or so. I pull all of 944 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: the key stakeholders back together and I give them the 945 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: names and the places of the people who I had 946 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: interacted with. You guys are this city. The thing was 947 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: the city manager says to me, Oh, is that anything great? 948 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, now, if I'm a person 949 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: who's putting my family here, I don't want a family 950 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: friendly environment. So friendliness is important to me. If I'm 951 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: telling somebody that I have a diverse community and I'm 952 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,800 Speaker 1: a business who was looking for diversity, this is the 953 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: place I need to be. Once they realize that these 954 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: are your attributes, let's start talking about them. That you 955 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: can't just YEA. So now in their community relations when 956 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: they do events, they you know, if you do a 957 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: city event, promote that it's going to be a friendly 958 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: event because you guys are going to be friendly. It's 959 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: going to be saying and diverse. They got it. So 960 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: now businesses can come there and realize I can come 961 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: here and it's gonna be safe. I can come here 962 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: and move my employees because it's going to be friendly. 963 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: It's a family environment. It was so much fun to 964 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: get them to see who they were, but more importantly 965 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: to get them to see you really are that. So 966 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 1: that's what I do when I do cities. I'm about 967 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: to brand them Volunteers of America, which is a huge organization. Yes, 968 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: but they're nonprofit. There's thousands of nonprofits. Why am I 969 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna give you? That's what I'm helping them down distinguished. 970 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: What do you do that another nonprofit doesn't do? And 971 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,760 Speaker 1: what's uniquely you? So that's what branding is all about, 972 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: is giving you that identity. Just like you know a 973 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: Nike or anyone else. Everything is a brand. It's the 974 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: experience and the perception that you want people to have 975 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 1: when they encounter you. Yeah, it really has changed the game. 976 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: I would tell people with the Muhammad Ali era, you know, 977 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: people can just promote, they can talk, they can screen, 978 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: they can shout immediately because of social media. Where that 979 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: that that brandy has left the corporations back in the 980 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: day who advertise or radio and TV and commercials and 981 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: digital and things like that. Because of social media. Now 982 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: you're part of the you're part of the cure as 983 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: part of the problem. Yeah, but I love the fact 984 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 1: that you use Muhammad Ali. I use him a lot 985 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: because I say I am And it's not just me, 986 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: but it's scientifically proven that the words I am. Whatever 987 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 1: you follow that with, you become, whether you're a Christian, 988 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: scientific whatever, you become what you believe, so I am. 989 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: It's are important. Mohammed Ali was the first to say, 990 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: I am what the greatest, greatest? He told you that 991 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,479 Speaker 1: from day one, I am the greatest. I'm the greatest looking, 992 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,479 Speaker 1: I'm the greatest fighter, I'm the greatest dresser. When he died, 993 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: what did they call him the greatest of all time? See, 994 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,760 Speaker 1: that's the power of understanding I am in your brand, 995 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: you become what you believe. And that's why I say 996 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: the young kids, you tell yourself, you know, I am 997 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: badest songs or whatever. You know, you become that, you 998 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: start to embody that and then you have to act 999 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: like that. When Mohammed Ali said that, it wasn't about 1000 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: even branding himself as much as he was making a point. 1001 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: But in all of the time that he said that, 1002 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 1: they ended up calling him that. And that's the power 1003 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,760 Speaker 1: of knowing that I am right, yeah, telling yourself great. 1004 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on my show, money making conversation. 1005 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,959 Speaker 1: You you know I could talk to you all day. Well, 1006 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 1: in fact, you know we gotta you can take me 1007 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: to lunch. Well, I gotta catch the airport. I gotta 1008 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: go to the airport because I got to l a 1009 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm busy like that. But more importantly, 1010 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: we have to do this every quarter. It's part of 1011 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,959 Speaker 1: the brand, is part of the process that I want 1012 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: to I'm in a good place in my life now 1013 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: where I can be able to say this is what 1014 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: I want to be able to communicate to my listeners 1015 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: and to my fan base on the regular bation and 1016 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: your Star and hopefully to help them. 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