1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: iHeart podcasts. Bring you the ultimate Summer of love Tree. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: This is famously available. Hey, everybody's famously available. I have 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: two famously available ladies co hosting with me today. They're amazing, 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: They're fantastic. That's why they're famously available and doing this 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: podcast with me. We're here today because they were some 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: of the spies during Mercedes and Bryce's date at jingle Ball. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Now I have already talked to Bryce. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: I really don't know any behind the scenes of this date, 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: and so today I'm bringing Deanna and Kathy here on 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: to really tell me about the date from their perspective, 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: what they saw, what they. 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Know, what went good, will went bad? 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Catch us up. And here's the fun part about this show. 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: I think we get mercedes perspective, we get Bryce's perspective, 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: we also get spot perspectives, and so somewhere in the 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: middle is going to be the truth. But everybody's truth counts. 17 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: So all right, ladies, let's kick this off. Dean, I'm 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: going to start with you tell us kind of I 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: guess before I kind of talk about what Bryce took 20 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: talked about. I would love to hear your conversations with 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Bryce and Mercedes before the date started, What were you 22 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: excited about? What were you thinking could happen? Kind of 23 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: that pre interview that you did that we can all 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: listen to. 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 3: Okay, I've actually been really looking forward to this. I 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: joked with Bryce that he thought he was just going 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: on a date with Mercedes, but truth be told, he 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: was going on a date with Mercedes, Me, Kathy, like 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: dozens of other people, you know what I mean. So 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: I listen, thanks so much for letting me be a 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: part of their initial like dating. I so so enjoyed 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: getting to interview him and kind of lay up what 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: he was walking into. And I don't know, Ben, but 34 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: I kind of let Bryce have it. I didn't let 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: him like, I didn't make it this like gentle, smooth 36 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: transition for him. I kind of let him have it 37 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: before he got to meet Mercedes, and I joked with 38 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: him and I laughed a lot. I'm not sure Bryce 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: thought I was as funny as I thought I was, 40 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: But listen, I had a great time. But what I 41 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: want to say is what a unique experience to be 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: sitting in the room when Mercedes walked in and to 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: have eyes on the two of them the very first 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: time that they got to meet. It's like one of 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: my favorite things about weddings too, you know what I 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: mean when you see the bride walk up and you 47 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: see the groom and he's crying and he's in love 48 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: and he's you know, it was the same situation because 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: I Mercedes and I rode to the studio together, so 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: we had the opportunity to talk, and she was a 51 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: little nervous and she was excited, and then she got 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: to stand outside of the door and be there for 53 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: the twenty minutes I got to interview Bryce, and probably 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: her nerves and stuff were just adding up. And what 55 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: a fun experience to see her come into the room 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: because you know, you're expecting them to be like blown away, 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: you know, Kathy, you know, because you got to see 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: him too and take a look at him and see 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: his looks, his physical appearance. But I think he was 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 3: a good looking guy. And Mercedes, we know, is gorgeous. 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: But how fun it was to sit in the room 62 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: and kind of see her come in because there's a 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: piece where she's trying to play it cool too. You know, 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: she doesn't want to be like off the bat, like 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: ooh he's ugly or oh damn, he's so hot, but 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: she's playing it cool. But also she's super nervous and 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: she's excited too, and he tried to claim he wasn't nervous, 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: but like we all where, we all know. 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: Well, I want to know what did you think when 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: you saw her lay eyes on him? Because clearly you've 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: got to see him first. So what was your take 72 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: when you saw her meet? How did she look? 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: I thought initially they were both trying to play it cool. 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: And I think actually when we were recording, I made 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: this little note because you could see the progression. As 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: an outsider, you could see the progression as the interview 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: went on, like they were a little too scared to 78 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: make eye contacts. They didn't look at each other too much, 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: but they both wanted to like check each other out. 80 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: They wanted to look at their physical appearance. It is 81 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: important to have that initial attraction. But as the interview 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: went on, they started to look at each other a 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: little longer, the eye contact was stronger, They started to 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: comment on each other's physical appearance. I just was like, 85 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: how cool to like sit in that situation and get 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: to see the two of them really take each other in. 87 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: And I think that initial traction was there that I 88 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: think that, well, I don't think. Oh no, he found 89 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: her attractive off the bat, like he made that perfectly clear. 90 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: I heard him within the first couple of minutes say, wow, 91 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: holy crap, like you're so my type. You are stunning, 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: Like he was captivated with her physical appearance, because she's 93 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: gorgeous obviously, but it was funny to see her too 94 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: loosen up because she was nervous. Who wouldn't be. But 95 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: it was fun to see her loosen up too because 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: as someone who is available, Kathy, eye contact is very 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: important to me, and I could see the two of 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: them start to pay attention to each other a little 99 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: bit more and hold eye contact a little bit more, 100 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: and really actively listen to each other and try to 101 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: comment on each other. It just was the nerves were off, 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: and then you got to see the natural progression of 103 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: what a date really looks like. 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Wow, Kathy, for you, you weren't there for that first moment, 105 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: but we had talked with Mercedes before the date started, 106 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: so you did have an idea of what she was 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: wanting and expecting. Give us your kind of initial interpretation 108 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: or feelings when you saw the two of them together 109 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: for the first time. 110 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: Okay, well that's where the humor began for me, because 111 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 4: I kept trying to find them. I was up in 112 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 4: the suite and I said, where's Mercedes. She just went downstairs. 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: Literally we were when I was downstairs, she was upstairs. 114 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: So finally I decided to stay put waited till they 115 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: came in, and, of course, shy person that I am, 116 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: I went right up to him and I said, so, 117 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: I'm mercedes mother, and he kind of looked at me 118 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: and I said, not really, but for tonight, yes I am. 119 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: And so tell me about you. 120 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: I mean. 121 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: I started peppering them with questions and it was so funny. 122 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: The first thing he said was, well, she's so beautiful, 123 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: and I'm just I said, so, what are you looking for? 124 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: And he said, well, I'm really just I'm looking for 125 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: a beautiful woman. I said, oh, do you want to 126 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: date me? And it just completely put him off, Like, 127 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 4: you know, I'm just kidding. He said that It was 128 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: interesting though, because anyone who knows me, I'm I go 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: right in like, okay, I'm just gonna I'm the spy here, 130 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: but I'm also you know, the attorney, the opposing council 131 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: and I'm just going in. And so I asked him 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: what he was looking for, and he said a beautiful woman, 133 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 4: which you know doesn't really narrow the field, but as 134 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: you said, Dianna, Mercedes is stunning. And then he said 135 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: something about his parents had just moved to Florida from 136 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: Kansas and they wanted him to get married and have 137 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: a couple of kids, and he thought he should do that, 138 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: but he didn't know how it was going to work 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: out because she was in that because Mercedes lives in 140 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: Nashville and he lives in California. So I said, as 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: any logical person would, Oh, so you're not interested in 142 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: dating someone long distance? Oh no, I'm open to that. 143 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: I'm open to that. 144 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 145 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: And so I said, oh, and he said, in fact, 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: you know I'm going to I'm going to go to 147 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: Nashville and see her. I you know, I'm going to 148 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: go and see where this goes. So I'm thinking everybody's 149 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: hitting it off until I talked to Mercedes. 150 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: Listen, I think that we should start off by giving 151 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: Bryce some credit. Okay, it is a lot to ask 152 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: someone to go on a podcast, let alone television or 153 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: anything else and put himself out there. So like, let's 154 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: give him some credit. He went into this completely blind, 155 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: and not only was he not just going on a 156 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: date alone with Mercedes, he had to deal with everyone 157 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: else involved. 158 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: Like, you know, did he seem nervous because he didn't. 159 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: To me, Diana, he didn't seem he seemed just go 160 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: with the flow kind of guy. 161 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: In the group setting. Once we got to the concert, 162 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: I think he did a really great job. But I 163 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: would say that when we interviewed him in the studio 164 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: before he met Mercedes, he was he was a little nervous, 165 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: Like he was like, Hey, I'm super confident. Well, I 166 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: don't know if you have to say you're confident. I'm 167 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: so sure you're super confident. But who would not be nervous. 168 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: I am giving this young man some grace and listen 169 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: when you hear the interview. I maybe I'm an asshole. 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 171 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: I really gave it to Bryce. I didn't let him 172 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 3: cut any I didn't let him give me schmoozy answers. 173 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: I really asked him some challenging things, and I made 174 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: him laugh a little, trying to loosen him up. I 175 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: think it only got awkward when I asked him about 176 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: if he was going to kiss her that night, and 177 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: then I told him when he did, it's only weird 178 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: if I lean in too. So poor Bryce, Poor poor Bryce. 179 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a few things I did 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: just get to talk to Bryce. 181 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: I do want to be clear here. 182 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: We got to give him the benefit of the doubt, 183 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: because it is a weird situation at every level. Yes, 184 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: you're getting set up on a first date. That's weird. Yes, 185 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: you know that at some level people are going to 186 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: be listening to the details of this date depending on 187 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: what they want to share. 188 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: That's weird. 189 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: The other one is he's walking in to a group 190 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: of people that know each other or at least are 191 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: familiar with each other, and you are the outsider, and 192 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: everybody there knows that you're on a date with this 193 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: incredible human who we all think is a massive catch 194 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: for any man. So there's a lot going against you 195 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: when you step into it. 196 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: Then you're dismissing the whole part where he's looking at 197 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: a bunch of people who were on television he has 198 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: seen the show, like, you're dismissing the whole other piece 199 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: of like he's walking into a celebrity filled event where 200 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: there's a red carpet and you're being surrounded by a 201 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: bunch of quote celebrities who have been on television, Like 202 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: I can't imagine the level of pressure that he was feeling. 203 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: And I thought he did an excellent job. I thought 204 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: he did a great job. 205 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't see him nervous again. By the time 206 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 4: I met him in the suite, he'd done the interview 207 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: with you already, Deanna, the podcast, he'd already spent time 208 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 4: with her. 209 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 3: I got the pleasure of sitting behind them on the 210 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: bus on the way to the concert. And we all 211 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: know Los Angeles and Los Angeles traffic. What was nine 212 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 3: miles took us an hour and a half to get there, 213 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: And I got to sit behind them on the bus, 214 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: you guys, with no one else around, And they were cute. 215 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: They were talking to each other, they were talking about 216 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: their families, they were pulling up their Instagram accounts. He 217 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: was very attentive to her, and he was very complimentary. 218 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: So if they don't get married in the end, okay. 219 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: I thought it was a really great first date. I 220 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: thought he was a great person to be set up 221 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: with on a first date. I thought she handled it 222 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 3: really well. Whether whether they're going to go on a 223 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: second date or keep in touch. I thought it was 224 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: a really great first date. She was cold. We were 225 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: having to stand outside and wait on our uber, and 226 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: she was really cold because she's wearing this beautiful cute 227 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: dress with no sleeves on it. And he did not 228 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 3: hesitate to take his jacket off and put it around 229 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: her shoulders. You guys, those things are so important. He 230 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: may not be the right person for her, but he 231 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: was chivalrous. He was kind, he was complimentary. I think 232 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: he was honest, and he was all about Mercedes that night. 233 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: Not to mention, there were a ton of other hot 234 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 3: girls in the room. He could have dismissed her and 235 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: literally checked out any other girl in the room. He 236 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: followed Mercedes around all night. He adored her, He found 237 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: her beautiful, He was interested. I thought it was a 238 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: fantastic first date for whom I think in general, it 239 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: was a fantastic first date. Whether they see each other again, 240 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: when we're looking in the grand scheme of first dates, 241 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: it was better than mine. 242 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: I got the question asked to me this week at 243 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: an event. They said, Ben, I'm single, I don't want 244 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: to meet somebody. What do you recommend, And I say, 245 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: go on dates, like just do it, like they're not 246 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: all going to be perfect. And I do think there 247 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: is this scale for all of us when it comes 248 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: to the first date that as long as nothing happened, 249 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: that's that memorable. Really, I mean, that's kind of my 250 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: standard is like, as long as nothing happened that that 251 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: is that memorable and that hurt us, or there was 252 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: something said where an argument got brought up in the 253 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: first date, then that's a good first date. It might 254 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: not mean that there's a second, but goodness, we'll say, hey, 255 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: this this first date didn't hurt me on by going exactly. 256 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess. I guess we're arguing semantics here because 257 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: to me, at my age, a good first date means 258 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: I want to see the guy again. Otherwise it's a date. Yes, 259 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 4: I had a date, But if I say to you, 260 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: I had a really good first date, it means I 261 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: want a second date. So I think it's just my interpretation. Sure. 262 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: I think that's the beauty of this podcast too, is 263 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: we've got three wonderful women who are available that view 264 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: relationships and dating very differently at different stages in our lives. 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: And I guess I appreciate that, Kathy, because I've kissed 266 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: enough frogs to think, oh, well, at least there is 267 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: still a kind human being out there. At least there 268 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: is a guy who had enough piece about himself that 269 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: he at least showed up as a gentleman that night. 270 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 3: Because listen, hey, it could. 271 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: Have gone He could. 272 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: Have pulled up her skirt and he could have tripped 273 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: her on the red carpet. He could have told her 274 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: she was an idiot. I mean, it could have gone 275 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: seven way sideways. 276 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: So I mean, I'm saying if that had been me 277 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: and I wasn't interested, I might answer the question. You know, 278 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: Bryce was a really nice guy, had great manners. You know, 279 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: he carried my bags in the gifting suiteie open doors 280 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 4: for me, all those things. But there wasn't the chemistry there. 281 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: That's the answer I would give. 282 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: I think Mercedes voice that he would not be her 283 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: typical type. That was the thing. And what I encouraged 284 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: her is that if we all went with our typical type, 285 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: look where we could have ended up. Sometimes we have 286 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: to think outside of the box and outside of our 287 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: comfort zone because we might typically chase chaos. So I know, 288 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: He's not her typical type, but at least he was 289 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: a He was a decent human being that showed up 290 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: for a first date. 291 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: And really, and I also think, you know, we should 292 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: give Mercedes some credit here as well. She has all 293 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: these people that she actually does know well, and some 294 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: of her good friends are there, and so she's trying 295 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: the balancing act of seeing if this guy is a 296 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: good potential for dating while also looking around the room 297 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: and seeing her friends and seeing what they're thinking about him. 298 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know Mercedes as well as 299 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: you do. We've spent a couple of times together, but 300 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: she seemed very very honest with me about what was 301 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: going on the date and particularly when we got back 302 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: to the hotel after the date. 303 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: Let's dive in here a bit. 304 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Bryce a little bit more, 305 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: because I did just get off of a conversation with him. 306 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: Deanna, you were on the sprinter van. 307 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: I'll kind of roll through all these scenarios that were 308 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: brought up during our conversation. Kathy, you were involved in 309 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: some of them. Deana, you were around for some of them. 310 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: He explained to me this the sprinter van situation. It 311 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: sounded like to me, just by a listener, that he 312 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: did kind of crush the sprinter van, two hour drive 313 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: with a bunch of friends or a bunch of her 314 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: friends that he didn't know, you know, sitting next to 315 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: a girl having these conversations. It sounded like it went 316 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: better than it could have. 317 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: Do you agree? 318 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: I do. I do, and I'm telling you. I literally 319 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: sat and the way the sprinter van was, my seat 320 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: was raised up a little bit, so I could kind 321 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: of see what they were doing. I could watch their 322 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: body language. I could see the way he was leaning 323 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: in to her. I think that I got the vibe 324 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: from pretty early on that he was into her more 325 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: than she was into him. But with all of that 326 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: being said, I do think that the date went best 327 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: case scenario for first dates. They can be awkward, they 328 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: can be annoying. You cannot like somebody off the bat, 329 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: and right she did the same. She hung out with 330 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: this person all night long in a situation, and they 331 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: were together at all times. It's not like she was like, 332 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: oh I don't like this guy and she left him alone. 333 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: She very much catered to him as well. She was 334 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: also a good first date. But I thought it was 335 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: all there even on. It was an hour and a 336 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: half drive in traffic in Los Angeles was annoying. We 337 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: were all like, Okay, let's get there, you know, you 338 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: hurry up, get ready, and you wait. But they talked 339 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: the entire time. He engaged with her friends who were 340 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: sitting in the row in front of her. He asked 341 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 3: her great questions. She also asked him good questions. They 342 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: had mutual friends. I thought that it was a really 343 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: good time. I was not. I had a lot of fun, 344 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: so one of us had a great time. But I 345 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: just looking at it as an outside perspective, I thought 346 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 3: the date was really good. I do get the impression 347 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: pretty early on that he was into her more than 348 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: she was into him. 349 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's pretty clear from I mean, 350 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Mercedes about this yet. Based on 351 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: the two what the two of you are saying and 352 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: talking to him, I think he is excited about a 353 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: second date, was excited about the night that was had. 354 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll have to talk to her to see. 355 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: If he was reading any of that clearly, or I 356 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: should even be interested in a second date. But Kathy, 357 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: then you were at the concert with them, He explained 358 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: that he at the concert just kind of loosened up. 359 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: He was dancing. 360 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: He was like talking to some people that he knew 361 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: from my heart and letting her talk to her friends. 362 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: He mentioned that he wanted to give her as much 363 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: attention as possible. Do you from your perspective, when I mean, 364 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: if I'm to put words in your mouth, you think, 365 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: Kathy that this date did not end in like the 366 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: best manner, meaning that they would go on a second date. 367 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: When did that become clear to you? Was that during 368 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: the concert? 369 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: For me? Yeah? When I finally tracked them down and 370 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 4: got them in the same room that I was in, 371 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: she introduced me to him and we had a little 372 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 4: bit of small talk. Again, very polite, very nice guy. 373 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 4: And then he went stepped away to do something and 374 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: I said to her so and she kind of shook head. No, 375 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 4: nice guy, not not my guy. But before I could 376 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 4: get any deeper into it, he was back and so 377 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 4: he but in that time when she was not there, 378 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: you know, he was telling me that that they were 379 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 4: both Christians, that was important, and he showed me on 380 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 4: his neck he apparently had a tattoo. I couldn't see it, 381 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 4: but apparently a tattooed cross on his neck, and he said, 382 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 4: you know, we're we're both Christians, and she's beautiful. I 383 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: didn't I didn't get a sense of of more that 384 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: they had in common. I didn't get you know, again, 385 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: it was loud venue. It's hard to have any sort 386 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: of loud, real meaningful conversation. But she I to your point, Dianna. 387 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: She was lovely with him. She was not rude by 388 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: any stretch. But I didn't see them with their arms 389 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: on each other or looking. It was more like this 390 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 4: guy that I am standing with here, but there really 391 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 4: isn't anything. And then if I can just quickly jump ahead. 392 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 4: When we got back to the hotel room, there was 393 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: a pounding on my door and there were four girls 394 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 4: there and they came in and they were talking about 395 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: you know, it was Gabby and it was Katie and 396 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: Jess and Mercedes, and I was they were sort of 397 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: deciding what to do, and I guess he had not 398 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: gone home. He said, no, let's continue to hang out, 399 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 4: and they were talking about going to a bar and 400 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: she didn't want to do it. She said, I don't 401 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 4: know what to do. I don't want to be rude, 402 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 4: and I said, well, you spend all evening with him. 403 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 4: You know, these are your girlfriends. I don't think you 404 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: owe it to him to spend the rest of the evening. Well, 405 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: you know, he's talking about just staying here, and so 406 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 4: they were kind of having that conversation about what were 407 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: going to do, and Katie was saying, why don't we 408 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: just stay here and get a bottle of wine and 409 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: chat and some of the other ones wanted to go 410 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: to a bar, and Mercedes literally seemed high anxiety. How 411 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: to end this evening? Now that's that's a mother's perspective. 412 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 4: I'm looking at her and she's saying, there's no way. 413 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one, how cool is it that they 414 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: came knocking on your door? 415 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: You had to love that, Kathy. 416 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 4: I always love them. I feel like I was back 417 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 4: in Paradise. There's there's sweetest. I love them all. They're 418 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: so sweet. 419 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: The funny one is, Deanna, you might not know this, 420 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: but I asked Kathy to send me texts during the concert, 421 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: and so she decided that at a loud concert, instead 422 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: of text, I'm going to do voice memos. 423 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: And when I went back and read them, I was like. 424 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: They made no sense. 425 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: To me. 426 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: I know it was just gibberish. And then I did 427 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: send you a picture. 428 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 4: Though I did get a picture, thank you for that. 429 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: I know I didn't see the text of the next day. Well, 430 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: I was trying to sort of be undercover, you know. 431 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: I didn't want to be sitting there poking on my 432 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 4: phone like I was sure. 433 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad Kathy had some cooth about her. I 434 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: had no shame. I get together. 435 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: Now. 436 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot to come out of this, because again 437 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Mercedes. Mercedes could surprise us all 438 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, after a night's rest thinking about 439 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: the date, I am open to a second date. I 440 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: recognize that this maybe wasn't the best environment. But Diana, 441 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: back to you, you were around for this first date. 442 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: You've gone on your first you know your share of 443 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: first dates. What is the standard for saying yes to 444 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: a second date like especially a first date like this 445 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: where it is chaos, there is a lot of people around, 446 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: like when would you say yes? When would you say 447 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: absolutely not? 448 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: I think we have to look at it just like 449 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: we labeled it. I would have probably taken a second 450 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: date because given the situation, you know what I mean. 451 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: But we cannot lie about that initial attraction. And if 452 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: it wasn't there for Mercedes, and I don't want to 453 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: speak for her right but if it wasn't there for her, 454 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 3: then she knows it's not worth it to her to 455 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: do a second date. Now, I think that Bryce, from 456 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: what I gauged from him, is that he would absolutely 457 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 3: do a second date. I was going to ask you, 458 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: Ben because when I Okay, so, when I interviewed him, 459 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: he full on planned that if the time was right, 460 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: he was going to try to kiss her, and he 461 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: was going to get her phone number. 462 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: Did he do that, He got her phone number, They 463 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: did not kiss. 464 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I don't think that she was going to 465 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: be kissing him. 466 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: So wait, I got to say two things. One is 467 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: I read somewhere if you are not repulsed by the 468 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 4: first date, if there's not you know, A, B and 469 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: C that are against your set of values, that you 470 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: should always go on a second date to give the 471 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: guy or the gal whatever it is, a chance. So yes, 472 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 4: I think unless she was completely repulsed by him, given 473 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 4: the circumstances of the state, I think it would be 474 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: I would encourage her to have a second date. 475 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: I think that unless there's a huge red flag. I 476 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: believe we get these gentle nudges from our own intuition 477 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: about whether something is right or wrong, and sometimes you 478 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: need a couple of those to feel something out. There's 479 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: no way you truly get to know someone in that 480 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: short period of time of a first date, let alone 481 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: the chaos of what their first date was recording a podcast. 482 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: You've got friends there, You're obviously trying to look and 483 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: be your best because you're at an event. So I 484 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: would hope that she would take a second date, but 485 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if she will. And 486 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: there's also the other piece of like he lives in La, 487 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 3: she lives in Nashville. I don't know when they can 488 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: see each other again. But you know, I am hoping 489 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: for her to take a second date, and I'm hoping 490 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 3: it's something a little bit more traditional, just the two 491 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: of them. They maybe they go and grab a drink, 492 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 3: or maybe they go to dinner or something a little 493 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: bit more. 494 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: When I asked him Diana about that, well, I said 495 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 4: that at the top of the podcast about them dating 496 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 4: long distance, he told me that he goes to Nashville. 497 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 4: He's a music producer as a old music label. He 498 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 4: said that he goes to Nashville a lot. That's one 499 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: of the reasons he wasn't worried about long distance dating 500 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 4: because he said he spends a lot of time in Nashville. 501 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: Listen, he did a lot of things right. He made 502 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: that very clear even when we recorded in the room, 503 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: that he if he saw something there, he would make 504 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: a point to see Mercedes again. And he told us 505 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: like that's his life. He's there all the time. So 506 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: I think he was laying it up there. If she 507 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 3: wants it, I believe he gave her, you know, the incentive. 508 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: I think that he would do it. I do believe 509 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 3: that right now we are going to be relying on 510 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: what Mercedes wants because I believe that he has made 511 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: it clear that he would keep in touch, he would 512 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: see her again, he would like that she had any 513 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: qualities that he likes and that he looks for in someone. 514 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: I will say there was a red flag for me again, 515 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm not dating Bryce, so mind me nothing. But when 516 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: we were talking and chatting, he shared with me that 517 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: he took a break for dating from dating for a 518 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: couple of years because he was trying to get to 519 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: know himself a little better. And he recognized that he 520 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 3: jumped into relationships too quickly in the past, that he 521 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 3: went hard and they went fast, and then within a 522 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: few months he was like, Oh, I don't really like 523 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 3: that person to me, given everything that I have been 524 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: through in my life, that's a red flag to me. 525 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: That's called love bombing. That's called many many you're you know, 526 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: they call it dating and dating slowly for a reason 527 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: because you miss things in the beginning due to infatuation 528 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: and sexual attraction. You miss some of those really big 529 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: things that you need in a lasting relationship. So for me, again, 530 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 3: I'm not dating Bryce, but I have trained myself enough 531 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 3: that I made some mental notes when he was sharing 532 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: those things that like, that's a red flag. 533 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: For me unless he's done the work. I mean. The 534 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 4: other thing is he may have done the work in 535 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: the last couple of years where he has learned to 536 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: slow it down. And who knows, I mean, you don't 537 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: even know that over she'd only know that over time 538 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 4: getting to know him. The only thing I want to 539 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 4: say about it is we have to give Mercedes some 540 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 4: slack here too, because these are her good friends and 541 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 4: they apparently did all go out after and went to 542 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 4: a bar, and so they're evaluating her friends are evaluating 543 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: him in real time. She's not having the time to 544 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: develop a relationship on her own. She's you know, she's 545 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: sort of reading what, you know, what her friends are 546 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: saying about them about him. And I think that's tough too. 547 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: I think that's hard. 548 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think this. 549 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: Would have been a difficult place for him to come 550 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: out of this unscathed. Because of that, your friends are 551 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: going to be critical. 552 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 4: Now. 553 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: They're also going to be very supportive, but they're they're protective. 554 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: They're gonna be critical, especially as the night wanes on 555 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: and drinks are flowing and you know, you're stuck in traffic, 556 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: like your friends are gonna get critical. They're going to 557 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: start to really try to protect you. I think it's 558 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: a hard place to win over. I mean, goodness, I 559 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: hope people listening. I give a ton of support behind 560 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: Bryce and Mercedes. They said yes to this. It's not 561 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: like we're coming out of this being like, goodness, gracious, 562 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: what a terrible guy? Or wow, Mercedes, no wonder you're 563 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, you're single. Like they're both doing great, and 564 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: that's the beauty of this experience is we get to 565 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: hear why things work and why things don't, and sometimes 566 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: be surprised when they work, and then also be surprised 567 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: when they don't work. I mean, he's a handsome man, 568 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: he was kind. 569 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: They were dressed similar, Ben, like, they showed up and 570 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: their vibe was the same. She was wearing a black 571 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: silk dress and he was wearing a black silk blouse. 572 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: That wasn't good for. 573 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: Them deeply unbuttoned. 574 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: I was going to say his blouse, his shirt was 575 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 4: deeply unbuttoned, and she was buttoned up. So yeah, there 576 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: was that. I have to tell you why when they're 577 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: in our hotel room. The girls before they all went 578 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 4: out to the bar after the date, they were just 579 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 4: I was laughing. I mean again, you know, alcohol probably 580 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: had been involved a little bit. They were saying. I mean, 581 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: the guys got on a silk shirt and then somebody said, no, 582 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 4: it's polyesterro I'm like, really do we care? And it 583 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: was unbuttoned, I mean, come on, button up your shirt. 584 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: And I just sat there laughing. 585 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: I had to look back at the photos when and 586 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: I have to send them to you, Ben so that 587 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: you can see them. Because I took a video to 588 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: of their initial meat. But I don't remember his button 589 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: being undone that far. 590 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: When they were in the suite for sure, well or. 591 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: When we started the podcast. I don't remember seeing that 592 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: much cleavage on him. 593 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: I've got a hairy chest. That would be kind of cool. 594 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Look for me, though, born star like it'd be awesome. 595 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: I question everything about you, Ben, I'm. 596 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: Gonna say, Ben, that's just that just doesn't even I 597 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: don't want to imagine. 598 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: It does it for some? Yeah? It does it for some. 599 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: This is a really fascinating time because obviously we got 600 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: to speak to Bryce, we got to speak to. 601 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: The two of you. We're gonna speak to Mercedes. 602 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: I think the big like takeaway from this so far 603 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: is that he did in a fact in a sense, 604 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm hearing what you're saying, Diana, and I'm hearing what 605 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: you're saying, Kathyen. I'm like, the best thing that happened 606 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: to Bryce. If Bryce listens to this, which I'm guessing 607 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: you will, is to do a long distance relationship because 608 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: it forces things to slow down. It does it forces 609 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: the pace to get to a level from that euphoric 610 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't imagine not spending an evening 611 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: with you from like night one. Here's a red flag 612 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: for me, though, to interrupt myself in my life, there 613 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: is some standards for first dates, right, Like I don't 614 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: need to be sleeping with the person on the first date. 615 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: That's not necessarily a win for anybody, especially if I 616 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: want to see them again. That's never been a good 617 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: start to a relationship for me. A kiss acceptable, you know, 618 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: but a kiss can be a kiss, and it's a 619 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: nice like goodbye, cannot wait to see again. I might 620 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: even see you tomorrow night. If you're up for it, 621 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: we'll go out to dinner. However, my lesson that I've 622 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: learned over the years is you just say goodbye a 623 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: little earlier than you think you should, because if the 624 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: other person isn't feeling it, or they're tired, or they 625 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: were nervous, and now they're just like relieved that they 626 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: did this first date thing, it gives them the space 627 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: to say, hey, that was awesome, leaving them wanting more. 628 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: I do think a red flag was this kind of 629 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to now go out with your friends to 630 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: the bar till two am. Just in my life, that 631 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: just feels like an easy Hey, I'll let you guys 632 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: go have fun. 633 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to go home. 634 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you said it perfectly. Just then, just then, 635 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: there was a part where he needed to be aware 636 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: of his surroundings and allow her the moment to just 637 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: be with her friends and politely see himself out. 638 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm going to say I disagree 639 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: with both of you. I think it is as much 640 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 4: on Mercedes to say, hey, this has been a lovely date. Uh, 641 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 4: you know, it's been great seeing you. We can talk again. 642 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: But I'm here with my friends and I haven't seen them, 643 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: and let's let's talk again tomorrow or a week from 644 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 4: tomorrow or never again. But I'm going to place the 645 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 4: onus just as much on her to end the date 646 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 4: as him, and she couldn't. When she was in my 647 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 4: hotel room, she said, I don't know what to say. 648 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: Eyes Kathy. 649 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but we've all been married here, right, Like, 650 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: don't make it the other person's problem. What I'm saying 651 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: is be aware enough to not put it on the 652 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: other person to have to be the one to say something, 653 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: even if it felt like hey, early and gone it's 654 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: it's it's actually a really good I think play. 655 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: It could have benefited him well. To do that. Less 656 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 3: is more sometimes leave room for her wanting more. As 657 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: much as we hate to say that there are games 658 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: in dating, there are. We all want to be desired. 659 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: We want there to be some attraction. You want them 660 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: to leave wanting more. 661 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 4: Because we don't know, you know, we don't know. Maybe 662 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: the other guys, you know, Zach all the. 663 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: No doubt, Kathy, I won't assume what they were thinking. 664 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: I highly doubt know. 665 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, maybe they said, hey, come on, 666 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: we're gonna go to the bar, come with it. I mean, 667 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 4: I don't I doubt it. I doubt it. 668 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with I doubt it. 669 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: For the women out there listening, I will say there 670 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: would be something very attractive to me on a first date, 671 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: even second day, even today in my marriage. If we 672 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: all go out to dinner and we're hanging out and 673 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: the guys are saying, hey, let's go to the sports bar, 674 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'd love to go, and my wife 675 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: or my girlfriend at the time and be like, you guys, 676 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: go have fun. 677 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: Ben. 678 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see when you get home or Ben, 679 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: I hope that we have a date tomorrow night or 680 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: the next night, whenever you're available. Like there is something 681 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: attractive about just being aware enough to say, Hey, I 682 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: know you like me. I know you love being around me, 683 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that I have to be around 684 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: all the time. Hey, we got to close up here. 685 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: I'll give you each thirty seconds. Final thoughts on witnessing 686 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: and being the Spies for the first date, Kathy will 687 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: start with you. 688 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I missed my calling. I think the 689 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 4: CIA would have been a good place for me. I 690 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: just have to find them. I know. I thought it 691 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 4: was great to sort of watch from a distance, not 692 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: being a participant, watching what was going on. And I 693 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: guess my wish is for anyone who's out there dating, 694 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 4: give it a chance. Be calm it. You know, you 695 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 4: don't have to conquer the world on the first date. 696 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: So I hope that Mercedes will give it a second shot, 697 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: because I think that you just sometimes you don't know. 698 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: Sometimes it takes a little bit of time to warm up, 699 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: and it was not the most easy dating. You know, 700 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 4: to date someone at a concert is not the easiest 701 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 4: first date. 702 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, Kathy, I would one hundred percent 703 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: agree with what you say. I hope Mercedes will give 704 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 3: it a second date. I really do. And I hope 705 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: the two of them can just go to dinner next 706 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: time he's in Nashville for work, or at least a 707 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: phone call, a FaceTime or something to be able to speak. 708 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 3: Because I, from an outsider, believe that it was a 709 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: great first date. I think that they were both engaged, 710 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: They treated each other well, they got to know each other, 711 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: they found things in common, and we don't always have 712 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 3: to lead with that initial physical chemistry. Sometimes that needs 713 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: to grow and you need to find other things in common. 714 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: So I'm with you, Kathy. I do hope that they 715 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 3: go on a second date. I hope that they can 716 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: figure that out from there. That would be my hope. 717 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 3: I think it was a great first date, Benjamin, good. 718 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: Job, hey, crushing it over here. I will say this also. 719 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: I mean it when I say this, Bryce and Mercedes. 720 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: I think it took courage. I think you're both great. 721 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: If you're not meant for each other, you're gonna be 722 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: catchius to people. This is just the fun part of 723 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: breaking down an individual relationship at an individual time in 724 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable scenario, but I do think my hope 725 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: is they both came out of it being like, I'm 726 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: glad I did it. It was worth the effort, it 727 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: was worth the time, worth the evening, and we think 728 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: you're both great. Hey, this is famously available breaking down 729 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: with my spies for this date. Deanna and Kathy. They 730 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: are good at this. In fact, I do think they 731 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: might have a job at this. This would be a 732 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: really fun career path for the two of them. Anyways, 733 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to Mercedes, we talked to Bryce. 734 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking to a lot of people about 735 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: this day, figuring out the dues, the don'ts, the ones, 736 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: the needs, the red flags, the green flags, and everything 737 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: good and bad that happens in dating. 738 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 2: So until next time, I've been Ben, We'll talk to 739 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: you soon.