WEBVTT - California Sober feat. Demi Lovato

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hello, a good afternoon, or a good evening or

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<v Speaker 1>a good morning. I don't know what time of day

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<v Speaker 1>it is for you, but Brandon and I are here

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<v Speaker 1>in studio. And Brandon, if some of you may recall,

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<v Speaker 1>was in a very foul mood last week. That was

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<v Speaker 1>not I was not upbeat and that was not my

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<v Speaker 1>normal chip herself. No, no, and that's because you were robbed. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was robbed, robbed not once, but twice in one day,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So he obviously has to move. But other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, the great update, because you've been in Hawaii

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<v Speaker 1>all wait, so a lot of things have transpired, Brandon.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot going on. And I came home

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<v Speaker 1>to the news that the gentleman who is my neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>who robbed me, the perpetrator, he was arrested, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look like justice was going to be served. But

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<v Speaker 1>we had Jennifer Lopez type of d A or detective

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<v Speaker 1>detective you referenced Jennifer Lopez. Question, she's been on the brain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently she stopped by and she let us know that

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<v Speaker 1>she was definitely going after him and going to pursue charges.

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<v Speaker 1>And she did. And when that happened. Jennifer Lopez, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>Jlo herself descended upon his house with the swat and

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking helicopter to arrest him. That is exces juice.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just thought, like, you know, someone would

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<v Speaker 1>sweep by, pick him up, put him in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of a cop car. But no, they did a full

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<v Speaker 1>descent on his home and he was arrested. So gratifying

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<v Speaker 1>after that fucking asshole stole from you, not once he

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<v Speaker 1>stole from him, like a year ago. He broke into

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<v Speaker 1>their house. Then he came back again, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>came back again. His friends came back later that day

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<v Speaker 1>after Brandon chased him down the street and apprehended him himself.

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<v Speaker 1>The police were like, there's nothing you can do. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do unless you catch him in the act,

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<v Speaker 1>which you did. But then I guess I've realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the law is very intricate, that there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of levels to the protections for people, which I understand. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking caught this guy with the stolen goods, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were still not much there could be done until

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<v Speaker 1>again this detective came in on her white horse to

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<v Speaker 1>save the day. And now I have to go testifying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to Oh, I can't wait for that. That

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<v Speaker 1>is like a courtroom draw. There's nothing I love more

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<v Speaker 1>than at the Law and Order SVU moment I've been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for for so long. Well, it's just so gratifying

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<v Speaker 1>because it really felt like the police were not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything about this because of this no bail

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<v Speaker 1>rule that we have in Los Angeles, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>you can get arrested for a non violent crime, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you're booked and released the same day. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate release, which again I understand components of all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things now. And I had a very bad attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>I was mean to basically everyone I encountered the day

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<v Speaker 1>we were robbed. I was screaming at every police officer

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<v Speaker 1>who I had to interact with. And so I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize for our behavior. But that's nice. Nobody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be yelled ABT. No. I do understand that there

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<v Speaker 1>are everyone's trying to do their job. Everyone I think

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<v Speaker 1>wants justice to be served. But because there's been injustice

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, we now have to course correct. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it can go too far one direction or another,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll find we'll find the appriate footing. I think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>so how did you find out about the arrest? The

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<v Speaker 1>detective emailed while we were away and let us know

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on and what charges. He's being charged

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<v Speaker 1>with three felonies. Oh good, maybe whatever his name is,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say his name, that's not really fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he'll get a ship together. I spoke to him

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<v Speaker 1>very compassionately while it was happening, even though you were

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<v Speaker 1>apprehending him, that this is not the life you want

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<v Speaker 1>to live. There's so much more opportunity than robbing your neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, he was on drugs, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he heard me. He'll hear me in court. Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably by that time, yeah, I mean you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have you already have empathy for him, so you

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<v Speaker 1>probably will have to have empathy for people. Actually, my car,

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<v Speaker 1>since I've lived here, I've lived in l A for

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<v Speaker 1>six years, my car has been broken into three times,

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<v Speaker 1>every time it's around Christmas. And I just try and

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<v Speaker 1>to remind myself that when it happens, because it's so

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<v Speaker 1>freaking annoying, that whoever is doing that doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing it, that they're in a position where they

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is their only option and it's the holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>like who knows if they're doing it for their family

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<v Speaker 1>to get gifts. So you try and lead with empathy

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<v Speaker 1>in these things. But well more on a happier note, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you just came back from like your first vacation since

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<v Speaker 1>I've met you, your first real vacation vacation, And thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for you did not bother me one time. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't want to. I wanted you to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy your time in the sun. Literally I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a great time traveling during We're still in a pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>were on the tail end seemingly of the last year's quarantine,

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<v Speaker 1>and so traveling felt a little strange. And it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like we went to a w who it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted it so badly to be wrapped up, but

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<v Speaker 1>it still wasn't. So there was social distancing. There was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, capacities at every restaurant, so limited capacities, cacities.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just spent most of our time on the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>which is exactly what we were there for, which was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And did sweetheart try to surf? I did try to surf,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was so fucking hard. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>really pride myself and being able to like lean into

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of athletic activity and do well. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not do well with surfingart. You know, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>told you that Sweethearts aunt serf. I tried to serf

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<v Speaker 1>once in Portugal, and I ended up with literally my

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<v Speaker 1>breasts well they were exposed, which obviously everyone knows it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a big deal for me, but in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they were exposed, it wasn't my choice. My bathing

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<v Speaker 1>suit basically almost decapitated me. My bathing suit top because

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<v Speaker 1>the waves were so quick in quick succession that I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get my bearings. And I know that when you

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<v Speaker 1>strapped the leash to your ankle, it's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>for your safety, but all I wanted to do was

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<v Speaker 1>get that fucking leash off my ankle. And all I

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<v Speaker 1>could do was rip it off. And the guy, my

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<v Speaker 1>surf instructor, who didn't speak English and I don't speak Portuguese,

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<v Speaker 1>was saying like gesticulating, don't take off the rope, don't

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<v Speaker 1>take off the rope on my fuck this rope funk.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I just swam into shore, and by the

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<v Speaker 1>time I got to the beach, my bikini top was

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<v Speaker 1>around my neck, the bottom was gone, just I was bottomless,

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<v Speaker 1>just soaked. I just covered in sand, and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a sand dab. Actually I looked like somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>had been dipped in sand and then was waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>be fried. And it was humiliating, and I'll never forget

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<v Speaker 1>my friend's boyfriend came running over to help me cover

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<v Speaker 1>my Pikachu because it was out because I had no

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<v Speaker 1>bathing suit bottom. But it was by far the most

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<v Speaker 1>humiliating beach experience. Oh no, actually I did have another

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<v Speaker 1>humiliating beach experience. I also too. Once went to Oahu

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<v Speaker 1>with my sister showtime, and she and I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the north shore and we thought, because we've grown up

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<v Speaker 1>in Martha's Vineyard and we've had a lot of swimming,

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<v Speaker 1>South beach is rough, and we thought we knew what

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<v Speaker 1>was up. And we went out and there were all

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<v Speaker 1>those signs on the beach saying like no swimming, but

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't. I couldn't be bothered with that, so we

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<v Speaker 1>went in and then as soon as we felt the riptide,

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, oh my god, what the fuck and

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<v Speaker 1>we were holding each other and holding each other, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we had to ride in the waves to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of you know, to get out of the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had to time it. Finally I just let

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<v Speaker 1>go of her hand. I'm like, everybody's on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like each man for herself, and then I and

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<v Speaker 1>it was the same scene, running like in slow motion

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<v Speaker 1>to the safety of the beach. And when we got

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<v Speaker 1>to the shore, everyone was on the beach screaming at

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<v Speaker 1>us that we shouldn't have been swimming in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>And then someone thought I was Pam Anderson because at

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<v Speaker 1>that time I was like white blonde hair with just

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<v Speaker 1>huge tits, and I pretended I was And I just

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<v Speaker 1>took a bunch of pictures with some Japanese tourists. I'm sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was fun, but yeah, that was another bad

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<v Speaker 1>ocean experience. The ocean can be very scary. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I love being on the water. I am so relaxed

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm there, but if you go out too far,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very menacing, like you get past the point of

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<v Speaker 1>no returning, Like, wait, can I make it back to shore?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've gone too far, right, And it's also

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<v Speaker 1>a giant toilet. So that's disgusting because when you really

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<v Speaker 1>think about what's in the ocean, it's not great. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of great. And the critters and the creatures

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<v Speaker 1>that are in the ocean are also you know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I did like about Hawaii is that there

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<v Speaker 1>are no questionable animals out and about We said, you

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<v Speaker 1>had a baby pup, a seal and her pup. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no like snakes, so you should love Hawaiian Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually one of my favorite things about Hawaii that

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<v Speaker 1>there are no snakes. You don't have to worry about anything.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have any snakes in New Zealand either. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, there was a shark. Good that was scary.

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<v Speaker 1>We we kind of like debriefed on the way here.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally forgot to tell you there's a shark. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course there was. Well, I did not think I have

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<v Speaker 1>an unreasonable fear of sharks. When we went to Spain,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to tell me that there were no sharks

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<v Speaker 1>in that portion of the sea, so I would get

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<v Speaker 1>in were But with global warming, they're coming in closer

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<v Speaker 1>to places that they shouldn't be. And what you do

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<v Speaker 1>if you see a shark as you hop on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of it and hold onto the fin like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mountain. You mount it and just hope for the best.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I do. Well, that's advice for everyone. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>where was the shark? So we had just left the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel of this little private beach and this is where

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<v Speaker 1>the seal and her pup were nesting, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>just gone up. We looked over the balcony we were

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<v Speaker 1>on the highest floor to see the mom and her

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<v Speaker 1>up The fucking shark had come in to shore, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assumed to try and get it, and it just swam

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<v Speaker 1>around for a few minutes and went on its little way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's probably like six or seven foot. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't huge, but too big for me to be comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>getting back in over there. Yeah, yeah, Well, when they're

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<v Speaker 1>seals are sharks, I'm like, that's bait I don't need, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>how come the shark didn't get the pup or the seal, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think they had gone too far upshore. They

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<v Speaker 1>were they were sunning. It must be hard to be

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<v Speaker 1>constantly on the lookout of being fucking eaten. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's what people have to deal with now with sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>I like when people say, oh, well, sharks aren't here

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<v Speaker 1>to eat people, It's like, well, they keep fucking trying

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<v Speaker 1>to So who gives a ship what their m O is?

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<v Speaker 1>They're eating us. These sharks and these whales are much

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than people give them credit for. Have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>all these reports about these whales, Like when they hit

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the boat and they take the propeller

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<v Speaker 1>off and then they try and sink the boat. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a conscious effort. Really, it's like Moby Dick. But

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand. And moby Dick was when they had

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<v Speaker 1>all these little boats and when they would go whaling,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're like little I need like almost like

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<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of like a TP but on the flat

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<v Speaker 1>for the pool, and they would harpoon the whales and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, why don't the whales just buck up against

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<v Speaker 1>the boat. But maybe what's happening with the whales and

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<v Speaker 1>the propeller is evolution, because whales now are hip to

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<v Speaker 1>it and they're like, hey, stop sucking harpooning us. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to be more respectful of the sea creatures in

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean. Itself. It's I mean, it's really disgusting when

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<v Speaker 1>you see all of the wash up of all these

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<v Speaker 1>cigarbage and all all those pires. Is that what they're

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<v Speaker 1>called pires? Or is that an Indian funeral piles pires? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're called pires. It did give me a

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<v Speaker 1>different appreciation for Mayorka as well, because of all the

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<v Speaker 1>great jellyfish they have there, because I was also stung

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<v Speaker 1>by jellyfish. I didn't realize it. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you can even see anymore. I got out and I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at my rubbing my arm was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my arm feels hot. Did I burn it on a

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<v Speaker 1>curling iron? We didn't have a curling iron, so I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that wasn't it. And it would have been great

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<v Speaker 1>if you did have a curling iron and you got

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<v Speaker 1>it to the beach and he was like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're stung by jellyfish. He goes, but you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times their toxins aren't like intense enough to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt you. And he's like, well, do I need to

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<v Speaker 1>pee on it? I was like, I don't want you to,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't. He did anyway, Well, it was fully clothed.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't really make a difference. Okay, So what do

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<v Speaker 1>we got on tap Today's sweetheart? Drugs sobriety? Oh, sobriety. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's boring but necessary for some people. Well let's

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<v Speaker 1>find out who it's necessary for. Okay. Well, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to sobriety, it feels like you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. I feel like we should take a break eventually, prepare. Okay,

0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you've done special on drugs, so people often ask you

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<v Speaker 1>for your advice or input on drugs, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that's pretty consistent across the board. So Scott writes

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<v Speaker 1>in and he says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of recreational cocaine, and it's gotten to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>I find myself micro dosing at work. My colleagues and

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<v Speaker 1>my boss have both commented on how productive I've been

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<v Speaker 1>over the past few weeks. However, they are unaware of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I'm very much high. Is it a

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing if it's helping me at work? Thanks Scott?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, wait, wait, micro dosinc. Yes, he's micro

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<v Speaker 1>docin cocaine. I don't know. Docin cocaine is excellent. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>read it one more time. Let me just listen to it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Chelsea. I'm a big fan of recreational cocaine, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gotten to the point where I find myself micro

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<v Speaker 1>dosing at work. My colleagues and my boss have both

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<v Speaker 1>commented on how productive I've been over the last few weeks. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they are unaware of the fact that I am very

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<v Speaker 1>much high. Is this a bad thing? If it's helping

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<v Speaker 1>me at work? This is a real predicament for Scott

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<v Speaker 1>because the results are positive, and so it's very tricky

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<v Speaker 1>to to give him sound advice certainly. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>raises a point that why are you it's a micro

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<v Speaker 1>dose certain drugs, but those drugs are psychedelic drugs, and

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<v Speaker 1>cocaine is like a narcotic. What is it a Class

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<v Speaker 1>three narcotic? I couldn't tell you. I mean, there's really

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<v Speaker 1>no good argument or science data driven that cocaine it's

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<v Speaker 1>good for you. I mean, I can't imagine that that's

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<v Speaker 1>an easy feet throughout the day to just be doing

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<v Speaker 1>a line in the bathroom, you know, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>dirty and it's gross, and you're snorting it through your nose.

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<v Speaker 1>So like mixing that in the workplace. As much as

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to be an advocate for that, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say that it's not okay. You're on a

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<v Speaker 1>slippery slope because also you just don't know what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cocaine you're getting, and whether you like it or

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<v Speaker 1>not doesn't tell you what people are using to put

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<v Speaker 1>in it and cut it with. And like you're polluting

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<v Speaker 1>your body, you know, and you com pollute your body

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<v Speaker 1>in so many other ways that are less legal damaging.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we know, Chelsea believes that your body is

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<v Speaker 1>a temple and it should not be tainted. Your body

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<v Speaker 1>is yeah, exactly, your body is a temple. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going with. No, no, no, wait, hold on, the

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<v Speaker 1>cocaine used to that degree is not recommended for anyone. Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>You you got to like dial it back and find

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<v Speaker 1>something else that gives you the pep in your step.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, cocaine feels good and you like for the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It will not last like that, It won't. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a hard question. So what do you take when

0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you need a little perk up? Well, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>take one of my energy drinks, like a five hour energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You love a five hour energy. I don't love it.

0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a necessary evil. I don't love the

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<v Speaker 1>way it tastes. I don't love the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>need it. But you know what, I also like this

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<v Speaker 1>Macha green teath. This guy is not gonna This guy

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<v Speaker 1>is saying much. Saying much. This guy is like saying

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<v Speaker 1>melotoneinto me. You know, it's it's a moot. So do

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<v Speaker 1>try a five hour energy because that does give me

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<v Speaker 1>a jolt. But yeah, lay off the coke at work.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you think if I started to do drugs

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<v Speaker 1>at work? Well, you are doing drugs at work, I presume,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you take edibles and stuff, don't you. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine if you walked in on me just doing

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<v Speaker 1>coke at the kitchen counter. Honestly, at this point, Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>I really just wouldn't. I wouldn't even mind. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, if that's what you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>to get you through the day, I would be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely would be surprised that you were blowing lines

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<v Speaker 1>at the kitchen table. I've never done coke before, but

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<v Speaker 1>I often think that I would like to try because

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<v Speaker 1>i've because I don't think you have the personality for coke. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I trust your recommendation. We've had lengthy discussions about

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<v Speaker 1>different drugs and what you'll thrive under, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>not one of them. No. Mushrooms, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>which you introduced me to, have been very positive. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you been doing the chocolate mushrooms lately? Not often, but yeah,

0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I keep a chocolate bar in the fridge. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>took a chocolate mushroom the other day and it had

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<v Speaker 1>the adverse effect of putting me in a good mood

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<v Speaker 1>because I was going to work out with Ben Bruno

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<v Speaker 1>and I need something, you know, to do that for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. It's like I need to be stone loomy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or lobotomy. And so I took a piece of chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>and I went over there, and he was extra annoying

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<v Speaker 1>on that day. Sorry, almost turned my mushroom, it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I can't blame it on someone else, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned my mushroom experience around because Ben, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he can ruin anything. Yeah, that's like the first time, well,

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<v Speaker 1>first and only time I took Molly. I took it

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to my first like gay warehouse party

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<v Speaker 1>where one's dancing. There's no words in the music which

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<v Speaker 1>is the fucking worst. And I walk in and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's very touching and feely, and I guess that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Molly is supposed to do. And I was highly irritable,

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<v Speaker 1>like a fourteen out of ten. I walked in. I go,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, it smells like fucking taco seasoning and

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<v Speaker 1>here everyone has b O. I want to get out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then people come up and they're like rubbing on

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<v Speaker 1>you and they're touching it. I just look this guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the face, I go, do not touch me. I go,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you're feeling, I'm not feeling feeling. I wish I were,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is so unenjoyable, weird that you had that

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to time. Now I don't feel like I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do it again. But yeah, well yeah that's too bad,

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<v Speaker 1>because as Molly is fun. I did some Molly when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Canada. It was really fun. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>you always have a good time. I feel like, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just set my intention and that's to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. Now I'll know for next time. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>for clarification purposes, we did look it up. Cocaine is

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<v Speaker 1>a level two grade to narcotic, so I misspoke as usual, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Our next mission comes from Shane. He is thirty years

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<v Speaker 1>old out of California. He writes, Dear Chelsea, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>smoking weed since I was seventeen. I'm almost thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and no matter how many times I try and smoke less,

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<v Speaker 1>I fail. Shane, I feel like a month long break

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<v Speaker 1>would benefit me as I don't really get high anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds just like is this you, sweetheart? Let me see.

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<v Speaker 1>All three of my roommates partakes, so there's always weed

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<v Speaker 1>and bongs, pipes and paraphernalia around the house. What do

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<v Speaker 1>I do? Shane? Shanee? This is a common issue where

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<v Speaker 1>you have sweetheart on the phone because she deals with this. Shane.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not hi, Shane, how you doing good? How

0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.200
<v Speaker 1>are you? I'm good, I'm good. You're so cute? Then

0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:05.600
<v Speaker 1>are you there right now? If you're not getting high,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to take a break. It's the only way

0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>to get your high back. You have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>month off. So when I was developing this brand of

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<v Speaker 1>weed that I haven't still haven't released yet, they explained

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<v Speaker 1>to me that you can either take a week a

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<v Speaker 1>month off or a month a year off, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is how you maintain the intensity of your highs. So

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<v Speaker 1>I do that. I don't have that. I have done it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have done it and it works. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>really can't get high anymore, you need to take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to tell you about your roommates.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna involve some serious world power. I have none.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the repercussions of the Shane? You have a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible memory? Right? Is this correct? You've just spent the

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<v Speaker 1>most crucial years infecting your brain or actually diminishing your

0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 1>brain capacity. So yeah, you've got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I've been smoking since I was seventeen, even

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<v Speaker 1>with my dad as a teenager, so it's like ingrained

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<v Speaker 1>in my DNA at this point. Okay, well quickly, what's

0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:05.119
<v Speaker 1>seventeen times seventeen? Well, I don't know exactly. How's your

0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.040
<v Speaker 1>dad doing? How's his mental alacrity? Oh he's way worse

0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.280
<v Speaker 1>than I am. Okay, well, you should use that as

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<v Speaker 1>an example of what not to do. Right, that's true.

0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:15.840
<v Speaker 1>But he's also an alcoholic on top of that, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's lost. Well he's doubling down. That's not gonna be

0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.760
<v Speaker 1>good for anyone. But there is still time. Are you

0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 1>an alcoholic. To Shane, you don't drink. I drink, just

0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>not to that extent. Okay, So why don't you just

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<v Speaker 1>focus on having a couple of beers here and there

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<v Speaker 1>instead of your weed for a month. I swear if

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<v Speaker 1>you do it, we should incentivize him somehow. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way to know if he's going to stick with this.

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.800
<v Speaker 1>He is a pothead. He's not gonna remember. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's hear what the incentive is. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking about what we could do to

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<v Speaker 1>incentivize you. I don't know. I didn't have anything. Because

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<v Speaker 1>if I start giving out prizes to people, then that's

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<v Speaker 1>what this podcast will be about. People will call him

0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.040
<v Speaker 1>with fake problems wanting you know. I was going to

0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.280
<v Speaker 1>offer you some cash, but I realize I can't do that.

0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Well disclaimer, Shane only gets prized, but there is still

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.879
<v Speaker 1>time for you to correct your memory loss. Like there

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:03.920
<v Speaker 1>are so many apps now that you can download in

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.440
<v Speaker 1>little game and brain teasers, and I do them all

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the time because I feel like you. Granted I don't

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.160
<v Speaker 1>smoke like you, I would assume, but he's not worried

0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.360
<v Speaker 1>about that. He's not worried about his brain Aboucity. He's

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<v Speaker 1>worried about actually not getting high anymore. But that's all

0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 1>that you're worried about. Then there are then there are

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:25.480
<v Speaker 1>bigger issues, Shane. I can guarantee you that, Shane without Okay, Well, Shane,

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<v Speaker 1>you're first of all, you're adorable, so you've got that

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<v Speaker 1>going for you. And you called in to get advice,

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<v Speaker 1>so you clearly are serious, right about taking a break

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<v Speaker 1>from weed. What can you do to give your Please

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<v Speaker 1>don't call me ma'am. Okay, that is just not except

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.959
<v Speaker 1>you say ma'am or I am I am? Yeah, great answer.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do for work? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I work in a a vy warehouse doing shipping receiving

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<v Speaker 1>and like deliveries and stuff, and I often forget to

0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:56.000
<v Speaker 1>bring ship on deliveries, right, your favorite thing. You often

0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 1>forget to bring the actual equipment that you're supposed to

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.800
<v Speaker 1>deliver right because Okay, so you need to Okay, so

0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you need to think of this as an investment in

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<v Speaker 1>your future. Like if you take this month off really

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.879
<v Speaker 1>seriously and assess your life, and you are cognizant and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like take the month just to be real

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and present and not escape, like use it as escapism,

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:18.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, treat yourself to beers here and there. Obviously,

0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>don't go overboard on that either, because that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>like a detox, but really try and take a month off.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think you're going to feel a lot differently

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<v Speaker 1>about pot once you're done with it, and then you'll

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<v Speaker 1>have both things. You'll have a clear sense of like

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<v Speaker 1>what your future is going to hold in a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more direction, and you'll also be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>stoned a lot more easily. Yes, that sounds great and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like I already know the answer to this.

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<v Speaker 1>But are there reasons for your habitual use? Like is

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<v Speaker 1>it stress, depression, anxiety? Or are you just doing it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time? Like you couldn't even tell me at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. Who isn't stressed or depressed at this point?

0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's just always there? Okay, I like go home

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day and just get stoned

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<v Speaker 1>and chill in my couch. And are you taking edibles

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 1>at work? Are you stone while you're working? Edibles don't

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<v Speaker 1>even infect me? Yeah, then you're really far gone. Then

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you really need the month. You might need a month

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and a half, but you do. You definitely need to

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit of a like clear idea of

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>when you do it mindlessly like that, then it kind

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of has lost its luster, right Yeah, yeah, I even

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 1>have it right here, right right, So yeah, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had it right here. I wonder if there's any

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Okay, well I haven't had I can't

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<v Speaker 1>find any weed. And I know this is a good

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<v Speaker 1>practice for you to. Okay, well i'll do Maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go a month with him. What if I do it

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 1>with you? Will that help you? I think that would. Okay,

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I can commit to a month of no weed, and

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<v Speaker 1>are you Are you guys going to do something in

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.480
<v Speaker 1>its place, because that's what I would think. I'll just exercise, Shane,

0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? We're gonna check in. We

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:45.959
<v Speaker 1>we need to check in with him a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more regularly because he's going to have a hard time

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.880
<v Speaker 1>with us. I'm gonna actually, you know what, Shane, I'm

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a hard time with this too because I

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>rely on edibles to go to sleep every night, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna take it out of my repertoire for

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<v Speaker 1>one month. Okay, I'll do it. Okay, what's this holiday

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be called? Brandon? I don't doomsday for me

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>because you but I still have the chocolate mushrooms. Oh great, great, great? Okay,

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:12.159
<v Speaker 1>so do you need chocolate mushroom, Shane. I actually have

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>chocolate mushrooms. Okay, so those are fine during this time, okay, okay,

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.880
<v Speaker 1>like a low dose Shane. Let's so, what's the date.

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>We'll just do a month from today, right, okay? Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be talking about this on my Instagram and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So watch because I'm not going to fall off the wagon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do thirty days. And if you fall off

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the wagon, you need to notify us. I would never

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>fall off the wagon. Okay, I told you I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it all right. Sounds good? Thanks Shane. Thanks Shane. Oh Shane,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick? Actually wait, I hear that you used to

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<v Speaker 1>steal Chelsea's books. Maybe, Shane, are you straight? Uh No,

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm queer, okay, I like everybody? Yeah? Good, okay, Well

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>then I have a fallow up to that too, So

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I have multiple Now, Shane, what is the difference in

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>queer and pan sexual? Would they be one of the same? Yeah,

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>at least I mean everybody's because it's like you can

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>fall in love with anyone regarding their gender and what

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>they were biologically at birth. Right, Yeah, okay, I'll never

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll never understand. Well, that doesn't work out because you're

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you're gay and you need to know these things. For me,

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to keep up with. It's hard to

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>understand it all. Yeah, seriously, Well that's what Shane's here

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>for apparently, and what's the deal with the book? By

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the way, that also, you know your seman count Shane also,

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>if you want to have children one day, is deeply

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<v Speaker 1>affected by marijuana abuse at that age. Here's the thing.

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm trance, so I don't have any human all right,

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Well there there you go. Well, no, wonder why you're

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>so cute. Did you seal every book? Was this a

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>one off situation? No, it was just two and they

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>were used, so it was like not full price, so

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>really you were doing them a service. Anyways, I would

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<v Speaker 1>encourage anybody who can steal any of my books to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. They were great. That's good. I'm glad. I'm

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.399
<v Speaker 1>glad that's what they're there for your enjoyment. Yeah. I

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>used to sit in them all and read them during

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>during much. I love that. Keep us posted. We're going

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to check in. We'll figure out a time to get

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you back on Okay, alright, Shane, good luck, good luck? Okay,

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>together together, we're doing it. By Shane. Bye. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no fucking way that I'm going thirty days without a

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>fucking a chance. But I just made that promise to him.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I know, sweetheart, but things happen. I know. But I

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.719
<v Speaker 1>what about the next caller that I make a promise too.

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>We have to well, if it's not weed related, I

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>would have much more faith in you. Okay, But okay,

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking if I want to follow through on

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<v Speaker 1>my word, you could, Shane, I could do thirty days

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<v Speaker 1>without pot and see what happens. What did you feel

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>like happened after your binge at the beginning of the

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>pandemic and your time and whistler? Because you have pretty

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>consistent use throughout the day most days, right, I think

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>there are times where I find myself to be extra stupid.

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm really bored, and I smoke pot like

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:01.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't. This is why it's going to be good

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>for me to take a month offt You need to

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>do this, Actually, It's also that I'm easily influenced, and

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm also don't remember things well, you simultaneously remember everything. Oh. Also,

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the time that I took a picture I was in

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>someone's car and whistler, and I said, I really liked

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>this car and sent the video to Brandon and he

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>told me you already have this car, and most recently

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.919
<v Speaker 1>this weekend. I wasn't gonna say anything, but it's a

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>perfect segway. Here is you were looking for joints and

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I had told you where they were hours prior, and

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 1>you had gone to look for them. And I know

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>this because we were on Marco Polo And then you

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>had said, sweetheart, where are the joints? And I told

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<v Speaker 1>you again, and I said, I don't know if there's

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be enough left. You said, oh, I've not

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>ever looked for them, so I'm sure that it's fully stocked.

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Mind you, you had just done it hours before, so

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>it's probably time the test, sweetheart. Okay, Okay, then, well,

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 1>so our next mission comes from Robin. She lives in

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<v Speaker 1>Costa Rica. She's in her thirties, and nobody lives in Darika,

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't serve. She writes, dear, Chelsea. I went from

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a peace loving yoga teacher to a raging maniac. Help.

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I was sober and single my entire twenties as an

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<v Speaker 1>no mind altering substances except for an occasional spliff and

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 1>yearly Ayahwaska retreats. Oh Special, Maybe I know her desperate

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to find love. In my thirties, I went into two

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>consecutive relationships that may or may not have been with

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 1>narcissistic and manipulative men. Well they basically all are who

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.679
<v Speaker 1>are both drug addicts. I developed a very meaningful relationship

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>with ketamine, like very meaningful, like I would roll out

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of bed and wake up with a line and sometimes

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a line and a homemade kombucha champagne cocktail for months.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my question. If I have to do ketamine

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 1>all day, every day and occasionally drink in order to

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>tolerate the relationship I'm in, how much longer should I

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>stay in said relationship? I know it seems like there

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>is an obvious answer to this question, but I am guessing.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking sincerely because it seems like the only other

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>options are one to be with someone who will literally

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>bore me to death, or two you with someone who

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>will annoy me to death? Did you write this? I know?

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, listen to how you can't get away

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>from people annoying you. You just have to learn how

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>to cope with it. But not like this. Well, she

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 1>finishes off. I guess I mostly just feel like the

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:14.959
<v Speaker 1>same thing will just keep happening, so it's not just

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>tough a out and it will eventually get better. Robin,

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>what's the ps oh, she says. Ps I'm actually in

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Costa Rica right now and have been sober for over

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>a month. But I don't necessarily want to be hell O,

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>L I do feel good, though this really seems like

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>a letter you would write. Well, yeah, if I were

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>snorting ketamine every morning, Okay, Robin, I mean, Robin, you

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>have to stop snorting kennemine. That's snorting anything is not good.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is coming from somebody who has snorted lots

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of things. Don't snort ketamine. Please please do it for me.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>And if you have to do any of these things

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to be in a relationship, then these people are fucking

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>idiots and you can't be around them. You can't drug

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself in order to tolerate people. Drugs should be an

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>enhanced or is what I've what I've realized, your sweetheart,

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that it should just boost things. You shouldn't take them

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to cope with things. Right, right, And let me be clear,

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>because I talk about my use of cannabis a lot

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>as a coping mechanism, and this is true. I do.

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I do use cannabis as a coping mechanism, and I have.

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But I've also realized that he that's not the main

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>reason I do use it, and I tried never to

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>use it to cope with someone. I try not to

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>have it as the reason have someone as the reason

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that I need to smoke a joint or take an edible.

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>You have to change your perspective about that. Right, you

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>should be able. You just said you're feeling good. You've

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>been sober for a month, and you're feeling good that

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the proof is in the pudding. Like you, You just

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>showed yourself that you don't have to operate in that way.

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>All of these things will end up in flames. Dating

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>any drug addict is going to end badly unless that

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>person is working very hard to get sober. And you

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>don't need to date a drug addict. There are plenty

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of options for you. To date people that are not

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>drug addicts. And the other option is for you to

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>remain alone and actually do some like soul searching and

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>inner work so that you're not going to find yourself

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>in a situation like this. Again, sweetheart, do you need

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to weigh in? I just think that that was beautifully said.

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that there's ever an appropriate time to

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>take drugs to manage your relationship. I think that that's

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and stop snorting things. No snorting, no snorting. I wish

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I could, I wish I could. I wish I could

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>make a snorting now noise. Now's with my note now Schnauzer,

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>there you go, Thank you, sweetheart. Welcome Please, Robin, just

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>for me, stop that be alone. Why don't you give

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>yourself three months to be alone and be sober, and

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I bet you at the end of that you're gonna

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of different thoughts than you do right now. Okay,

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>So our next mission comes from Confused in California, thirty

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>years old. They write, Dear Chelsea, I need some advice

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>with a friend who's struggling with sobriety. My childhood best

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>friend has recently acknowledged that she's an alcoholic. I live

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>here in California and she lives in Rhode Island. I

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>told her, I'm so proud of you. I support you.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I will do anything to help you. I researched counseling

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>services and resources for her to start her sober journey,

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and checked in with her frequently on her progress. This

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>enlightened moment was unfortunately short lived, as it quickly turned

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>into an oh, just one glass of wine tonight, or

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I won't drink the entire bottle. Not today, Katie, I

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>need to relax. I'm trying to remain positive and supportive,

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>but I'm frustrated that I'm going to have to watch

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>my friends slam into rock bottom? Do I need therapy?

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Do I need to cut her out of my life?

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>And I am enabler? Am I annoying? I'm so freaked

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>out that the next phone call I have with her

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>will be the last. Any advice or compassion on the

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>issue would be a huge breath of relief. Hi Anonymous,

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Hi Chelsea, Hi Brandon, Hi, Hi, thanks for writing in

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>so How short lived was your friend's sobriety? Well, it's

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.959
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, and it's new, it's fresh. Um, I

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>think this is her first time really acknowledging that there's

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a bigger issue that she wants to focus on. Since

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I wrote in, she has been making some big strides

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and some big steps on trying to find help and

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>support and therapy. But I think really unfortunately in this country,

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>mental health help can be so hard to find, especially

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have insurance or you don't have the

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>right insurance. So she's trying, and I'm trying to help her,

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>but still new and fresh. Yeah, so you seem like

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>a really good friend a So there's that to be

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>grateful for and proud of, right, thank you? Yeah, Yeah,

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I've had this experience. I was just with a friend

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>this morning who recently got sober, well like you know,

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>six months ago, but she went to rehab. There was

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a big intervention. I had told her myself that there

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>was a problem, and then she had a big intervention

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's when she went to rehab and she came

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>out and she is living the high life. She's like,

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>this is the best adventure I've ever been on. Is sobriety.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So there is hope for all of these people, you know,

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>So don't ever give up on people. First of all,

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>because people do change just when you least expect it.

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they change, you know, when they hit their rock bottom.

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Some people don't need to hit a rock bottom. So

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, there are tools for you to know about. Oh,

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this book that's sitting right here, Set Boundaries,

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Find Peace, A Guide to reclaiming Yourself. Look at this book.

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I just picked this up because it was about codependence

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and counterdependence and it really expliccause I'm like, oh, I'm

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>not codependent. And it's like, well, when you enable somebody

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and you make their problems your problems, and you talk

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>about their problems like they're your problems, that is codependent.

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>That's huge codependent. I think I suffer from counter dependency,

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>which will get into later because this isn't really about

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>me right now. Sometimes I forget. But you don't want

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a codependent friend, right You don't want to

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>enable her, but you do want to be supportive of her,

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and so that if she does make a mistake, there's

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>not anything punitive from you as a friend. It's like, oh, okay,

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.479
<v Speaker 1>we had to slip up. Well, I guess we as

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>probably codependent too, right, but like you had to slip

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>up that's okay, it's not the end of the world.

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm still here for you. And it's like, like you're

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a team member for her, right, you know you want

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to act like that, like she can rely on you.

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I have that with my friends. It's so important for

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>me to be the reliable one, Like I want to

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>do what I say and say what I do and

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>show up. So I get that. But what's the latest

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>with her? What have the last few weeks been? Like, Well,

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I think she's at the point where she's ready to

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>get into treatment and she's ready to find the support

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that she needs. But I think she's still in that

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 1>realization of, Oh, I can't have a glass of wine

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>on Friday. Oh I have to tell people I can't

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>have champagne at their wedding. I have to I can't.

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a social thing that she's starting to realize,

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>which you're right, I'm probably codependent of like no one cares.

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just me. I love you, and I'm like hyper

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>positive and I just don't want to be like annoying.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Like I can imagine somebody that's having those realizations of

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is something I'm going to have to

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>deal with the rest of my life. I'm like, nah, girl,

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you're good. Shut up. This isn't about you. So I

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>think I just I think that's really helpful to hear.

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Is maybe I never realized I was codependent on her.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Is a part of my personality of trying to help

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>is I need to step back and let her take charge.

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and you can be like a ballast of

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>support for her, you know, but you are not her, right,

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 1>So that's a good reminder and you don't want to play.

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 1>You should pick up this book though, because it's really

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>about like all that kind of stuff. And I was

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>reading and I was like, oh my god, this is

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>so good for me to read again. It's called Set Boundaries,

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Fine Piece by Nedra Glover tawab t A w w

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>A B. Anyway, the other thing that is helpful that

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I learned from one of my friends who got sober

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>was to not make it a permanent thing, to not

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>think of it as a permanent thing, to not think

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of it as I can never have a drink again,

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, it's like kind of like what

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 1>they do in a a which is, you know, take

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it one day at a time. But there's a permanence.

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>When people say like I can never have sugar again,

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>or I can never have a cigarette again. You know,

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>hopefully that's you don't ever have another cigarette. But I

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>don't even think you smoke, So I don't, but she does,

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>and you know that's like so I'm like, all right,

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>we gotta really balance our our demons here. And I

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>guess cigarettes. You know. That's the thing too, is there's

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that I don't do that I'm like, oh,

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it's trying to stop, you know, And that's the opposite

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>of what people in her situation want to hear. So

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. Is as much as I can

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 1>just be that support and be like, it's maybe it's

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 1>not permanent. I just I wonder too. This is kind

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.760
<v Speaker 1>of a hot topic of conversation because we live in California,

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the idea of California sober I've heard that a lot recently,

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and and it's something that her and I talk about,

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>is do you cut out you know, what the substance

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>is that you feel that you're addicted to, or are

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>things like weed and cigarettes? Are those still okay? Yeah?

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's you know, that's obviously going to

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>be a personal choice for her, but like if she

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>has an addiction problem, it's great to cut everything out

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>for a period of time and then recalibrate, right and

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, when she's going to a wedding or she's

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>going to event, she doesn't, you know, if she has

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to tell if somebody she's not drinking. She just said

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not drinking right now. I'm not drinking right now.

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's much less of a big deal than saying

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sober or I'm not drinking again, you know what

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It takes the drama out of it. So

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe you can help her reframe that in her mind

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, I think I think it's all fear,

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>which is totally normal. You know. I think at thirty,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>we're at the point where it's like we can go

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>on vacation and get crazy, but you can't do that

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>on a Tuesday at eight am. I think that finally

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was the point that she got to of like, oh

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>my other friends aren't doing this, or you know, we're

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>not on vacation. I shouldn't be, you know, drinking this

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>earlier all day every day. So it's it's such a

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>learning curve that I don't know if as a kid,

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I saw this happening for our relationship. But I'm just

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>happy she's okay and wants to take these steps and

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>we're able to get advice from people like you and

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>other professionals that that know what they're talking about because

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it's so sensitive and it's so layered. Yeah, well, she's

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>lucky to have your friend like you that cares enough

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to call it about this, you know. So that's really nice.

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.919
<v Speaker 1>And we will keep your anonymity because you requested that,

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and I mean that's really good. And all you can

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>do is just show up for her and be supportive,

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and if she does slip up, you know, that's not

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the end of the world either. It's just a little

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>mistake and it's a little blip, and you know, you

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>got to look at the bigger picture and where she's

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>headed in that direction and just try and help support

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that movement. Definitely, And I'm definitely going to get that book, Okay. Yeah,

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm always on a book book tour, so I love

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 1>and I love your books too, They're so great. And

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you even though I know you said, like in your

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>podcast before, like I'm not a doctor, but you know,

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>just hearing someone with such experience and growth is so helpful. Well,

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you for calling in, Brandon. Did you want to

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>say any fucking thing? It was very It was very

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>it's falling in love. It was very eloquently put. The

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>only thing that I would add is that I've had

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to learn this the hard way. But support does not

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>have to be up close and personal. You can you

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>can support people from afar sometimes and that's what they

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 1>need as well. So I know it seems that in

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.240
<v Speaker 1>those moments you need to really be there by their side,

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>but it can almost be overwhelming, I think to a

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 1>certain degree. So just letting them know acknowledging that you're

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>there and that if they need anything you are happy

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to support however you can. But it doesn't have to

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>be consistent, ay check ins. It doesn't have to be

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>holding them accountable like they have to do that themselves

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 1>as well. So I think just you know, as she

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of embarks on this and you're along for the ride,

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to remember it's her ride, like you're just

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>in the car, So kind of let her lead the way,

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>but be there how you can. And yeah, I think

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing all the right things. You're posing the

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>right questions. Again, like Chelsea said, she's really lucky to

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>have you in her corner to support, So it's just

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of rethinking about how you're doing that. And to

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Chelsea's point, the one last thing that I would say

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 1>is she can take back the purpose of this and

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 1>she can change the verbage instead of saying like I

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 1>can't have this, I don't want it, Like you don't

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>want to be drunk at nine am as a third

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>year old. So even in that way, like I have

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to remind myself, I don't want fifty five popped hearts

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>a day. I would like them sometimes, but like I

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>don't want that, like I want to be better and healthier,

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and she does too. So even reframing those little words

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>instead of I I don't want, because then it's your choice,

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not something that's being chosen for you. Definitely, I

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>love that analogy of being in the car. I'm in

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the car, I've got my seatbelts on and I'm just

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>trying not to jump out. I just I want to

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>be there and maybe in the back seat, like maybe

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, in my car seat in the back. Yeah,

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you have your headphones on, your not backseat driving you're

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>just there. Well, you do want to have an air bag,

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>so you might want to sit up front. Good boy,

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Definitely, Well, thank you so much.

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Let us know how it goes. Keep us posted on

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 1>her posted. I definitely will for sure and all her

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>her success and her struggles. Thank you guys so much.

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it. Have a good day by you too.

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>By What are your thoughts on that? My thoughts on

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>that are that I just love all of our callers.

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe how normal and cool everyone has been.

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Every single time we get on the phone, I'm like

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>impressed by the person. Do you know how nice that is?

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It's shocking, honestly because most people, all these people seem

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>so great it and like they would have good, you know,

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>social skills out in the real world, but then you

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>interact with people outside of the studio and that's not

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the case. So this is a good time to bring

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>in Demi Lovato, who just came out as non binary.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>So congratulations for coming out as non binary, because that

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 1>is a very difficult thing to do. Demi has a

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of experience in talking about addiction. They have their

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>own personal experience with addiction. So I think they will

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>be able to contribute to this conversation in a way

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that you are. I may not be. There's nothing more

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>enticing about a person endearing than authenticity in their flaws

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>or their errors, because you know, what you get is

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>what you see. Yeah, Okay, hi, Demi, Hi, but that

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>was so nice. You're so sweet. Well, Brandon, I'm not

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>really that sweet. It looks so you look so cutey.

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Thank you got dressed up just for y'all. I'll look

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>at that. Your outfit matches your lamp. Look what you

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>did color coordinating. It's a very tired eye, look Sudhart.

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>They're busting out of their shirt, just like you do

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>in front of me every day. Sweetheart. I'm just trying

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 1>to thank you, thank you for noticing. Actually, well I'm gay,

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>but as you know, I immediately look at someone's chest

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>just to see what's going on. Only gay men can

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>say that now, or can they actually? Who fucking no,

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I probably shouldn't know. You shouldn't we take

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>it back? I know. So you're welcome to all the

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 1>straight men. Okay, So, de mean, we needed your input

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>on a couple of callers we've had in so we

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>know these are areas that you kind of have been

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 1>really public about, so we would love your feedback. What

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>is the first one, sweetheart? Well, so, the first one

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is someone wrote in about a friend who is slipping

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>off of the wagon. So I think they're just having

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>a little difficulty on their journey through sobriety. And in

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>your experience of going through sobriety a couple of times

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and knowing that it's a process that there's no one

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>track for each person, how do you think people can

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>be there to support someone who is trying you stay sober.

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I think the best way to handle any situation when

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it comes to helping someone through an addiction is having

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 1>compassion for that person, knowing that that addiction is stemming

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>from a place of pain, and so therefore when that

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>person is acting out in their addiction, they're hurting. You know,

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody ever acts out in an addiction out of joy,

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>and so I always just try to remember that, Like,

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 1>if this was a friend of mine falling off the wagon,

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I would have compassion for them. I would absolutely let

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>them know that I was there for them. But that

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it's tricky because for me, I can't be around people

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>that are actively using things that either I used to

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>like or just things that are dangerous. I don't like

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.919
<v Speaker 1>watching my friends put themselves in situations that are harm

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>full because of I too, I've I've lost a lot

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.399
<v Speaker 1>of people, and so I set a strong boundary with

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 1>those people while also telling them if you need help,

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 1>If you want help, I'm here for you. I love you,

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm here for you. I can't sit by and

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>watch this happen to you. I'm not abandoning you. I'm here,

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 1>but I can't sit by and watch. And so when

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>you're ready to get the help that you need, I'll

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>be there for you and whatever capacity you need me to,

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>whether that's calling the rehab and getting you set up

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>there or taking you to a meeting or whatever it is. Like,

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I think compassion is key. What's your take on tough

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>love in that situation? Does it work? I think, like

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you said, it's it's different for every person, and so

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>tough love may work on some people. It did not

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 1>work on me. Tough love to me felt like these

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>people are leaving me once again. Kind of fueled the fire.

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:05.439
<v Speaker 1>And so that's why I stress compassion so much when

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>talking about people in their addictions because it's like they're

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously going through something. And so when someone says I'm leaving,

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm out of here, tough love whatever, you know, that

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>made me go more inward and that made me actually

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>act out more. And so I air on the side

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of caution when telling people to have tough love. You know,

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it's it's important to stay completely transparent and honest. You

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>can totally do that. But I think in the same

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>way that I don't do well with a trainer that

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>yells mean things that made when I'm working out like

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do better when I have a trainer

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that's like, hey, you're killing it, keep going like or

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I know this is hard right now, but you can

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 1>do this. You know. It's like it's stuff like that

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that helps push me to the other side of the

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>finish line. And it might actually be the wrong thing

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to say to someone, and you can't take it back,

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you know. That's the tricky part about tough love. So

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>once you go past that line, you kind of can't

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 1>reel it in because they've already heard the toughness. Yeah, yeah,

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>which is my specialty. So I'm glad that we got

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>your point of view on that for sure, because you

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>speak from experience, which is better than no experience at all.

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And I haven't had to get that kind of tough love,

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>so I yeah, So I'm glad I didn't give advice

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>on that and we had. It's interesting to hear because

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.280
<v Speaker 1>my mom is currently going through an issue with her sobriety.

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 1>So she's an alcoholic, she was sober for a chunk

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 1>of time. She's no longer sober. She actually may be

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>sober right now. It's a little touch and go. But

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>for me, my stance has always been you have to

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:39.839
<v Speaker 1>be sober for yourself. So as much as I wanted

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.799
<v Speaker 1>to be there to support her, I didn't want her

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>kids to be the reason she stayed sober. So what

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>about family members who have someone who's going through this

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and they want to be supportive but also want to

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 1>set up positioning where you have to be sober for yourself.

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:56.959
<v Speaker 1>It has to be something you want because then there's

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a pressure to those around you to help them maintain

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>hang their sobriety, and a responsibility like if we do something,

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>we could be harming your path of sobriety, right, you know.

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why if you always act out of

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a place of compassion. You can't go wrong. I think

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>that when having empathy for people, no one's going to

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>take that the wrong way. You know, it's it's you're

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 1>showing love, You're showing grace and mercy. I think that

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>having the understanding that, like we've kind of been taught

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>through the Book of Alcoholics Anonymous for almost a hundred

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>years now, that that is the only way right. And

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and not to say anything bad about a A by

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>any means, it's just it's almost a hundred years old.

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>And so with the way that things progress over time,

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 1>there starts to become different solutions for different people. And

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's no longer a one size fits all solution.

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 1>What if your mom decides that she doesn't want to

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 1>be sober and she's able to manage it, you know,

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it just we don't know what the future holds. And

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 1>so I think being mindful of like it always has

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to come from a place of that person wanting to

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>be sober. If they don't want to be sober, they're

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 1>not going to stay sober. They're always gonna wonder and

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.879
<v Speaker 1>if and it just it's one vulnerable moment I had

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>but I think that's true what you're saying, Like, you know,

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 1>a A isn't for everybody. I had a friend who

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 1>got sober and he didn't do it through a he

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't go to rehab. He was like, this sounds all.

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:35.439
<v Speaker 1>He got ketamine treatments and he just stopped one day

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and then he would drink when he was on vacation,

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>but not drink when he was here, and then he

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 1>just stopped and it's been like two years since he's

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 1>had a drink. And he was like, listen, a A

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>is not for me, Like, I'm not going to a

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>A meetings and I'm not going to rehab. He's like,

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I understand I have a drinking problem. I understand it

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 1>got out of hand, but I'm never going to say

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to myself, I'm never going to drink again. He goes,

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing that to myself. I'm just going to

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 1>say I had to get the situation under control, and

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.759
<v Speaker 1>then that turned into sobriety for him. Right, And it's

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like it's almost analogous to the classroom

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>isn't always the best place for kids to learn, right.

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has different needs and desires and they respond to

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>different kinds of interactions with people, and I think that

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>applies to everything in life now so well sobriety. The

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>way that Demi just described it, it's kind of like

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the Constitution. It's like how this was established with a

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.360
<v Speaker 1>There are so many more possibilities now for people to

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>get their addictions under control or to find an outlet

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that is not they're going to abuse. So, for instance,

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the positioning is for a A,

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 1>but my mom at the time was interested in taking

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>cannabis to be able to relax to night because that

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was her stressor and when she would drink. And so

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:46.839
<v Speaker 1>that's California sober, isn't it. That's California. Yeah, And so

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you've mentioned that and not to me seems like a

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>much more realistic approach to trying to find something that

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 1>works for you, because just because you had an issue

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>with one substance does not mean you're going to have

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>an issue with another. But again, it's reconciling that there

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>was an issue and then trying to enter into that cautiously.

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I would think, yes, absolutely, it's it's look, I I

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>am aware of where my substance patterns have ended me

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>up in the past. So it's like, even when starting

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 1>this journey of California sober, you know, I needed to

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>be very careful that I wanted to make sure that

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't start smoking too much. And there's been periods

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 1>where I've smoked probably too much, and then and some

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>periods where I don't smoke at all. You know, it's

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 1>just about finding that balance of what works for you,

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I encourage you to support your mom and

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:42.080
<v Speaker 1>finding what works best for her. Look, I always go

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>back to cannabis because I just I know I'm going

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 1>to wake up in the morning. I can't say the

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:53.360
<v Speaker 1>same for other substances. And that's why I feel okay smoking. Now,

0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:55.760
<v Speaker 1>if that doesn't work for another person, then that doesn't

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 1>work for them, and that's okay. I just encourage support

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 1>finding their journey and their own path and not just

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>going to this dogmatic view of recovery, which is, you know,

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>A or the highway. Well, so that kind of answers

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the next question. So we have someone call in who

0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>has been Shane taking well, so Shane Shane is one.

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to Shane, but the the other one was

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.439
<v Speaker 1>the person who called in and they had been using

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>ketamine to try and make their relationship work. So they're

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to find something that, again not specifically to the

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>relationship the way Dummy's describing it, but you have to

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:35.720
<v Speaker 1>find something that works for you. I don't know what's

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>going on in the relationship that would cause them to

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>need to supplement its seemingly happiness with a subject. Ademine

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't necessarily Snorting lines of ketamine is a lot different

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>than academine infusion, which is usually guided by a medical professional.

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I am not a medical professional. I like to repeat

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that consistently on this podcast because I know a lot

0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>of people get confused because I'm trying to confuse them him.

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 1>But ketamine infusions are a very therapeutic tool for a

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of people. So snort and kenemine is kind of

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like something you would do at a party or off

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:14.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody's ass. Much different utility, right, right, So kenemine infusions

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:16.800
<v Speaker 1>are one thing, and those are helpful. Like that. My

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>friend who got sober went and got ketamine infusions in

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 1>l A a a bunch of times, and that's becoming, you know,

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:24.880
<v Speaker 1>more mainstream than it ever has been. With micro dosing

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>psilocybin LSD, like there's all these great healing benefits. But

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I actually let's talk about Shane though, because I can. So.

0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 1>This guy called in. He says he's a stoner. He

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.479
<v Speaker 1>stoned all the time, his roommates smoke all the time,

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and he just feels like brain dead. And I was like,

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you need a break, like and when

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I'm researching cannabis and reading about it.

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been told that you take like a week a

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.440
<v Speaker 1>month or a month a year. So I told him

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:51.719
<v Speaker 1>to take a month off. And then I was like,

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's like, it's gonna be so hard,

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'll do it with you. I'll

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 1>take a month off just to do it in concert

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:58.919
<v Speaker 1>with him. But also I feel great taking a break

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>from smoking weed. You know, it's another exercise of your

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 1>control over yourself, like to say, okay, I can say

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>no to this for thirty days, it's obviously gonna do

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.800
<v Speaker 1>me good. I'd love to be able to smoke a

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 1>joint in thirty days and be high as a kite again,

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, you know, I get that feeling back

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 1>instead of having you know, over smoking, like I can

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>tend to do. Do you take breaks from weed I do.

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I call them weed taxes, like a little I'm like, yeah,

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I just tell my therapist. I'm like, yeah, I'm going

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 1>on a little weed talks this week. And uh, I

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:32.880
<v Speaker 1>just I actually didn't even know that that's what you're

0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. I just kind of like naturally started

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>doing that, because yeah, if you if you're not careful,

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you can build your tolerance too quick and then all

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, your tolerance is super high, and you're

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.800
<v Speaker 1>just like, it is nice to take a break, and

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>first of all, you feel super clearheaded, super present, and

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, your tolerances jump started. So it's like I

0:54:56.800 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of I think I used to do that with

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 1>caffeine to back in the day when I was drinking caffeine,

0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, it's just it's it's interesting. It's like

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 1>cannabis is something that like it's so gentle, and in

0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:12.279
<v Speaker 1>my experience, it may not be that way for everybody else,

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 1>but in my experience it's been so gentle to where

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:18.240
<v Speaker 1>if I need to go without it for a period

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>of time, I can stop and be fine, and then

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.440
<v Speaker 1>when I'm on vacation, I can smoke it during the

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:27.719
<v Speaker 1>day and and at night and be fine. You know.

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I definitely agree with the tolerance though, you know, that's

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.719
<v Speaker 1>my main objective, because my tolerance gets so high that

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>like all of a sudden, you know, I can take

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.600
<v Speaker 1>like a twenty five milligram edible and just feel like

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a little dense, and you're like, okay, this is getting

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 1>carried away, you know. And plus it becomes very expensive.

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I was in the habit of getting in my car

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:46.279
<v Speaker 1>in the morning or in the you know, we'll be

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>on the way to the podcast and I'll have a joy,

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then I'm just like, oh wait, this

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is my becoming my morning routine. I don't want anything

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:55.279
<v Speaker 1>to be my morning routine that's not purely healthy, you know.

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's always been to change up the dynamic and

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to change up your relationship to the substance or whatever

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it is you're having. Noticed that if you are having

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 1>like a really hard time putting it down, maybe it's

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:11.399
<v Speaker 1>time to reevaluate your relationship with that substance. You know.

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>If the weed talk is too difficult, it's like, talk

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to the therapist, do what you gotta do and figure

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it out, because obviously that's not working for you. Anymore

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're needing to do it every single day. Well,

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:27.439
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to hear you talk about cannabis because women

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 1>are finally getting a place in the cannabis space again

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>where it's been predominantly male focus for so long, and

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 1>there are so many ways to take it now with edibles,

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>with the vapens, you you can sick them anywhere basically

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>so our spositories. I've seen this so for for women

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>who are listening to this and thinking like I would

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 1>love to introduce myself to cannabis as a way to

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.279
<v Speaker 1>deal with my anxiety, to help me sleep, to to

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 1>enjoy a day out. You know, some people want to

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:57.160
<v Speaker 1>be social but have such a hard time getting over

0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the hump in a social situation. What would you both

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 1>recommend for women who are interested in want to dabble

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.239
<v Speaker 1>get into enter the cannabis space. I think you just

0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:10.760
<v Speaker 1>have to go to your local, like honestly, the micro dosing.

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You can find things that are two and a half milligrams,

0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you can find mints that are one milligram, and you

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 1>have to just go with the smallest, smallest dosage and

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 1>try it and see how it affects you. Because it

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>is not for everybody. You know, I'm the biggest pusher

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>in the world. I want everyone to be stoned, but

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 1>some people just I have a couple of girlfriends that

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 1>cannot handle it, and I'm not trying to convince them

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>anymore because I've tried too many times and it always

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 1>ends up, you know, not being pretty. So I'm like, Okay,

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I give up about you. I would say so, yes,

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:45.479
<v Speaker 1>definitely going to your local dispensary. I think there's there's

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 1>really interesting ways that you can, like you said, and

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 1>take cannabis. So there's these drinks called can those too. Yeah,

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>they're like two milligrams. If someone comes over and they're

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>not used to smoke king, I'll give them one of

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 1>those and say. They even have like a lid that

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you can save it for later of situation. Or like

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 1>dosst pens, they vibrate when you've hit a full hit

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and so it measures the hits out for you. So

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 1>not just like hitting a vape pen. There's different ways,

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and I encourage people to explore. That's what life is about,

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 1>is exploring and so finding what works for you. And

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>if that's if that's cannabis, great, If it's just CBD. Great.

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 1>If it's none of the above, great, whatever works for

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you because of your history, did you have people in

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>your circle that are concerned that you're even smoking cannabis

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:45.720
<v Speaker 1>or are they pretty supportive of the green um? I'd

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 1>say my my team is, for the most part, pretty supportive.

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been on this journey since like summer of two

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand nineteen, so it's not been I think we're I've

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 1>gained trust back and you know, they've they've seen me

0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:07.160
<v Speaker 1>be able to have a healthy relationship with cannabis. I

0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 1>think that maybe my security guard, Max and maybe Scooter

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 1>are like the They kind of are like Max is

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 1>like my dad. He's like I think he'll always just

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 1>be the type of dad that like never wants to

0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 1>see his daughter smoking weed. You know what I'm saying,

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Like he rolls his eyes when I light up a

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>joint or something. But like it's it's not out of judgment.

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just like whatever floats true vote kind of thing,

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and we make jokes about it. But yeah, I think

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that's I think it's out of protectiveness. And if anything,

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone or else else around me knows how much it

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 1>works for me and how much has changed my life

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:48.439
<v Speaker 1>because I've been able to find relief and still wake

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:52.320
<v Speaker 1>up the next morning. And also just you know, when

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm celebrating something like my album, you know, it's no

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>longer like you don't have to go to a bar

0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and get drunk, you and light a joint, remember the

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.920
<v Speaker 1>entire night, you know. So it's just it's it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>People have seen how it worked for me, how it

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<v Speaker 1>works for me, and they're just supportive now. So moral

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<v Speaker 1>of the story is, with substances, there's no one size

1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 1>fits all. With recovery, there's no one size fits all.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember when we're going to go look at that house.

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<v Speaker 1>A few weeks ago, I forgot that we saw a house,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I looked at it online. She was very

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.640
<v Speaker 1>stones when we went, oh my god. And then three

1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:28.680
<v Speaker 1>weeks later I saw the house online. I said to

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<v Speaker 1>him the link. I'm like, I want to see that house.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, sweetheart, we already saw that house, did a

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<v Speaker 1>full walk through, spent like a chunk of time in

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<v Speaker 1>this home. So that's just how you know when it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for a weed talk. Yeah, that's right, and you

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<v Speaker 1>need to get that shirt. But I'm like, right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>blacking out on weed. I don't need that. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't drink so much anymore. I mean I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't realize your memory could go. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Yeah, that's exactly right. So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>about my weed talks, and I'm thank you for your

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<v Speaker 1>stamp of approval. Demi. Yes, absolutely, we talk up. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, Thanks so much for calling in. We

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<v Speaker 1>love you, Thank you, love you guys. Okay, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it's time to take a break, so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. You guys will be right back. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that was fun, Demi Lovato was fun. Yeah, they're a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. Yes, I like them. They are coming from

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<v Speaker 1>a place of love, and as we are, sweetheart, we

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<v Speaker 1>are coming from a place of deep love. Deep. You

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<v Speaker 1>must lead with love. You must lead with deep love. Deep.

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<v Speaker 1>So important to have these conversations about drugs because as

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<v Speaker 1>things become legalized, and and as these drugs become more

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<v Speaker 1>popularized to some degree, we need to know about appropriate use,

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<v Speaker 1>about responsible use, and the only way to do that

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<v Speaker 1>is to have conversations that might be a little uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can't wait till my niees we're doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait till my niece starts to get like

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<v Speaker 1>because she's so anti drugs. I was in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend visiting my sister, and my niece is so

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<v Speaker 1>anti drugs, like she is so drugs everything like she

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she knows we we are always taking edibles,

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<v Speaker 1>are always out and about. Obviously we have no secrets

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<v Speaker 1>in our family, and she's just always like we always

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<v Speaker 1>try to get her to have a drink. We were like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, have a glass of champagne, and she's just

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<v Speaker 1>like nope, nope, nope. And I'm just like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I was anti drugs too, and when in high school

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<v Speaker 1>I was against them. I couldn't believe people who use them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I tried them. And so is it? What

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<v Speaker 1>is her stance on it? Why is she in such opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's just she wants to be in control

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<v Speaker 1>of herself. So I think that's it. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people's reasons for not wanting to experiment

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<v Speaker 1>is that they are going to lose control. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like that feeling. Do you think it's But I

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<v Speaker 1>also don't feel like I lose control when I take

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<v Speaker 1>an edible or something like that, it's not a loss

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<v Speaker 1>of control. It's just you're not as I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but for people who are Type A, it does feel

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<v Speaker 1>out of control to some degree, because that's how I feel,

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume, especially when I started, because I am

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<v Speaker 1>so particular and so in control in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ways that when I took an edible, it's like how

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<v Speaker 1>when I take a five milligram it could feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a twenty because I'm wound so tight that

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<v Speaker 1>that level of relaxation feels very foreign, or did in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning for me. But it was also a superiority

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<v Speaker 1>thing for me, Like I liked being able to say

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<v Speaker 1>that I'd never done drugs, and then I realized what

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<v Speaker 1>the fund is? What's the point of that, because then

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<v Speaker 1>I will have never experienced anything right, right, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>now I've done drugs and I'm much happier about it. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean as long as you're yeah. I mean, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>needs to just get over themselves with regard to drugs

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<v Speaker 1>like there, we really have to work hard at destigmatizing

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<v Speaker 1>all of it because it's like, especially cannabis, it's medicine

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<v Speaker 1>for so many people like I don't want anybody to

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<v Speaker 1>being denied of medicine, do you well. And it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because the my Midwest counterparts, my family who are still there,

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<v Speaker 1>their stance is so against recreational canvas they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>because they're all indoctrinated by government saying that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>criminalized thing. And yeah, they're all alcoholics, exactly like alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>is better than cannabis. No, fucking nay, no, especially not

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<v Speaker 1>for the blow no. I remember I gave my dog

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<v Speaker 1>Chanca zan x once on a flight to Spain and he,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, all of this is very relatable listeners, he

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<v Speaker 1>freaked out. He freaked out, and he was heightened and

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<v Speaker 1>psycho and he was acting in ways I had never

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<v Speaker 1>seen him act before. But it was such a long flight.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was helping him, so I could just

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<v Speaker 1>put him to sleep for the flight so he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be on a twelve hour flight. And it backfired. And

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<v Speaker 1>when also backfired was that I also had taken the

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<v Speaker 1>zan x, so I was sleeping and he was fucking

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out. And when I got home and I spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to my vet, I said, I don't understand what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>And he said when your dog is in a heightened

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<v Speaker 1>state like what you were describing, if you give him

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<v Speaker 1>a zan X, he will stay in that heightened state.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, I'm like I'm in a

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<v Speaker 1>constant state of ad agitation and when I take a Zannex,

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<v Speaker 1>I go to sleep. So I guess dogs physiology and

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<v Speaker 1>biology is different than ours. Well now we know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's an important lesson for everyone listening. Do not give

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<v Speaker 1>your dog humans annex. No, that was an actually it

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<v Speaker 1>was his annex that I took from him. To be

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<v Speaker 1>completely honest, I looked up what that that had prescribed

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<v Speaker 1>him and I was like, oh, I like xann X.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're a doctor, you knew what portions you. So

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<v Speaker 1>I gave one of myself and I give one to

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<v Speaker 1>Chunk and then I had a really embarrassing flight per Chunk. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on that note, the important thing is to calibrate your

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<v Speaker 1>drug experience, because there's losing control in a fun, harmless way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's losing control of your life, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know those things are different, and losing control of your

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<v Speaker 1>life is very very serious. As we've heard today from

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. It's not a fun ride. A

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<v Speaker 1>road to go down well, that you need to take

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<v Speaker 1>personal inventory of where you're at with your drug use,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what you're doing now. So you're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a month Off'm going to take a month off of cannabis,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to hold you and my taking off

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<v Speaker 1>a month of edibles and smoking or just smoking your

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<v Speaker 1>throat could use it for the smoking, but you should

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<v Speaker 1>probably do a full detox. Okay, I can do that,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem. Well report back. Yeah, I'm setting an example.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave Shane my word and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>break it. Shane. We'll see what Shane. I hope Shane

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<v Speaker 1>is able to get through the month. Probably not, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it regardless because I stand by my word.

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<v Speaker 1>It's science. I hope I don't get pregnant.