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Speaker 1: Well, hello, a good afternoon, or a good evening or

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Speaker 1: a good morning. I don't know what time of day

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Speaker 1: it is for you, but Brandon and I are here

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Speaker 1: in studio. And Brandon, if some of you may recall,

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Speaker 1: was in a very foul mood last week. That was

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Speaker 1: not I was not upbeat and that was not my

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Speaker 1: normal chip herself. No, no, and that's because you were robbed. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I was robbed, robbed not once, but twice in one day,

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Speaker 1: that's right. So he obviously has to move. But other

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Speaker 1: than that, the great update, because you've been in Hawaii

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Speaker 1: all wait, so a lot of things have transpired, Brandon.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot going on. And I came home

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Speaker 1: to the news that the gentleman who is my neighbor

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Speaker 1: didn't look like justice was going to be served. But

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Speaker 1: we had Jennifer Lopez type of d A or detective

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Speaker 1: detective you referenced Jennifer Lopez. Question, she's been on the brain. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: apparently she stopped by and she let us know that

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Speaker 1: And she did. And when that happened. Jennifer Lopez, Yes

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Speaker 1: Jlo herself descended upon his house with the swat and

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Speaker 1: a fucking helicopter to arrest him. That is exces juice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just thought, like, you know, someone would

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Speaker 1: descent on his home and he was arrested. So gratifying

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Speaker 1: after that fucking asshole stole from you, not once he

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Speaker 1: stole from him, like a year ago. He broke into

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Speaker 1: came back again. His friends came back later that day

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Speaker 1: after Brandon chased him down the street and apprehended him himself.

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Speaker 1: The police were like, there's nothing you can do. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing you can do unless you catch him in the act,

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Speaker 1: which you did. But then I guess I've realized that

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Speaker 1: the law is very intricate, that there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of levels to the protections for people, which I understand. However,

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Speaker 1: there were still not much there could be done until

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Speaker 1: again this detective came in on her white horse to

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Speaker 1: I'll get to Oh, I can't wait for that. That

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Speaker 1: is like a courtroom draw. There's nothing I love more

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Speaker 1: than at the Law and Order SVU moment I've been

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Speaker 1: waiting for for so long. Well, it's just so gratifying

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Speaker 1: because it really felt like the police were not going

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Speaker 1: to do anything about this because of this no bail

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Speaker 1: an immediate release, which again I understand components of all

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Speaker 1: of these things now. And I had a very bad attitude.

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Speaker 1: I was mean to basically everyone I encountered the day

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Speaker 1: who I had to interact with. And so I'd like

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Speaker 1: to apologize for our behavior. But that's nice. Nobody needs

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Speaker 1: to be yelled ABT. No. I do understand that there

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Speaker 1: are everyone's trying to do their job. Everyone I think

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Speaker 1: wants justice to be served. But because there's been injustice

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Speaker 1: for so long, we now have to course correct. And

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Speaker 1: but we'll find we'll find the appriate footing. I think, well,

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Speaker 1: so how did you find out about the arrest? The

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Speaker 1: with three felonies. Oh good, maybe whatever his name is,

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll get a ship together. I spoke to him

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Speaker 1: very compassionately while it was happening, even though you were

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Speaker 1: apprehending him, that this is not the life you want

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Speaker 1: And I mean, he was on drugs, but I think

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Speaker 1: up The fucking shark had come in to shore, I'm

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Speaker 1: They're eating us. These sharks and these whales are much

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Speaker 1: It's gonna involve some serious world power. I have none.

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Speaker 1: that you're worried about. Then there are then there are

424
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 1: bigger issues, Shane. I can guarantee you that, Shane without Okay, Well, Shane,

425
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,719
Speaker 1: you're first of all, you're adorable, so you've got that

426
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: going for you. And you called in to get advice,

427
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 1: so you clearly are serious, right about taking a break

428
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 1: from weed. What can you do to give your Please

429
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: don't call me ma'am. Okay, that is just not except

430
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,959
Speaker 1: you say ma'am or I am I am? Yeah, great answer.

431
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: So what do you do for work? First of all,

432
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: I work in a a vy warehouse doing shipping receiving

433
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: and like deliveries and stuff, and I often forget to

434
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: bring ship on deliveries, right, your favorite thing. You often

435
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: forget to bring the actual equipment that you're supposed to

436
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: deliver right because Okay, so you need to Okay, so

437
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: you need to think of this as an investment in

438
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: your future. Like if you take this month off really

439
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: seriously and assess your life, and you are cognizant and

440
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: kind of like take the month just to be real

441
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: and present and not escape, like use it as escapism,

442
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 1: you know, treat yourself to beers here and there. Obviously,

443
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: don't go overboard on that either, because that's not really

444
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: like a detox, but really try and take a month off.

445
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: I honestly think you're going to feel a lot differently

446
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: about pot once you're done with it, and then you'll

447
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: have both things. You'll have a clear sense of like

448
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: what your future is going to hold in a little

449
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: bit more direction, and you'll also be able to get

450
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: stoned a lot more easily. Yes, that sounds great and

451
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: it seems like I already know the answer to this.

452
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: But are there reasons for your habitual use? Like is

453
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: it stress, depression, anxiety? Or are you just doing it

454
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 1: all the time? Like you couldn't even tell me at

455
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: this point. Who isn't stressed or depressed at this point?

456
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: But it's just always there? Okay, I like go home

457
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day and just get stoned

458
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: and chill in my couch. And are you taking edibles

459
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: at work? Are you stone while you're working? Edibles don't

460
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: even infect me? Yeah, then you're really far gone. Then

461
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: you really need the month. You might need a month

462
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: and a half, but you do. You definitely need to

463
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,239
Speaker 1: get a little bit of a like clear idea of

464
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: when you do it mindlessly like that, then it kind

465
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: of has lost its luster, right Yeah, yeah, I even

466
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: have it right here, right right, So yeah, I wish

467
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: I had it right here. I wonder if there's any

468
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, well I haven't had I can't

469
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: find any weed. And I know this is a good

470
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: practice for you to. Okay, well i'll do Maybe I'll

471
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: go a month with him. What if I do it

472
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: with you? Will that help you? I think that would. Okay,

473
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: I can commit to a month of no weed, and

474
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: are you Are you guys going to do something in

475
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: its place, because that's what I would think. I'll just exercise, Shane,

476
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? We're gonna check in. We

477
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: we need to check in with him a little bit

478
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: more regularly because he's going to have a hard time

479
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: with us. I'm gonna actually, you know what, Shane, I'm

480
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: gonna have a hard time with this too because I

481
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: rely on edibles to go to sleep every night, and

482
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take it out of my repertoire for

483
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: one month. Okay, I'll do it. Okay, what's this holiday

484
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: going to be called? Brandon? I don't doomsday for me

485
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: because you but I still have the chocolate mushrooms. Oh great, great, great? Okay,

486
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: so do you need chocolate mushroom, Shane. I actually have

487
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: chocolate mushrooms. Okay, so those are fine during this time, okay, okay,

488
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: like a low dose Shane. Let's so, what's the date.

489
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: We'll just do a month from today, right, okay? Okay, Yeah,

490
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be talking about this on my Instagram and stuff.

491
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: So watch because I'm not going to fall off the wagon.

492
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do thirty days. And if you fall off

493
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: the wagon, you need to notify us. I would never

494
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: fall off the wagon. Okay, I told you I'll do

495
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: it all right. Sounds good? Thanks Shane. Thanks Shane. Oh Shane,

496
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: real quick? Actually wait, I hear that you used to

497
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: steal Chelsea's books. Maybe, Shane, are you straight? Uh No,

498
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm queer, okay, I like everybody? Yeah? Good, okay, Well

499
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: then I have a fallow up to that too, So

500
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: I have multiple Now, Shane, what is the difference in

501
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: queer and pan sexual? Would they be one of the same? Yeah,

502
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: at least I mean everybody's because it's like you can

503
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: fall in love with anyone regarding their gender and what

504
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: they were biologically at birth. Right, Yeah, okay, I'll never

505
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: I'll never understand. Well, that doesn't work out because you're

506
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: you're gay and you need to know these things. For me,

507
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot to keep up with. It's hard to

508
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: understand it all. Yeah, seriously, Well that's what Shane's here

509
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: for apparently, and what's the deal with the book? By

510
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: the way, that also, you know your seman count Shane also,

511
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: if you want to have children one day, is deeply

512
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: affected by marijuana abuse at that age. Here's the thing.

513
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm trance, so I don't have any human all right,

514
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: Well there there you go. Well, no, wonder why you're

515
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: so cute. Did you seal every book? Was this a

516
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: one off situation? No, it was just two and they

517
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: were used, so it was like not full price, so

518
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: really you were doing them a service. Anyways, I would

519
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: encourage anybody who can steal any of my books to

520
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: do so. They were great. That's good. I'm glad. I'm

521
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: glad that's what they're there for your enjoyment. Yeah. I

522
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: used to sit in them all and read them during

523
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: during much. I love that. Keep us posted. We're going

524
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: to check in. We'll figure out a time to get

525
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: you back on Okay, alright, Shane, good luck, good luck? Okay,

526
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: together together, we're doing it. By Shane. Bye. There is

527
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: no fucking way that I'm going thirty days without a

528
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: fucking a chance. But I just made that promise to him.

529
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: I know, sweetheart, but things happen. I know. But I

530
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: what about the next caller that I make a promise too.

531
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: We have to well, if it's not weed related, I

532
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: would have much more faith in you. Okay, But okay,

533
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking if I want to follow through on

534
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: my word, you could, Shane, I could do thirty days

535
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: without pot and see what happens. What did you feel

536
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: like happened after your binge at the beginning of the

537
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: pandemic and your time and whistler? Because you have pretty

538
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: consistent use throughout the day most days, right, I think

539
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: there are times where I find myself to be extra stupid.

540
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: That's what I'm really bored, and I smoke pot like

541
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: I don't. This is why it's going to be good

542
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: for me to take a month offt You need to

543
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: do this, Actually, It's also that I'm easily influenced, and

544
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm also don't remember things well, you simultaneously remember everything. Oh. Also,

545
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: the time that I took a picture I was in

546
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: someone's car and whistler, and I said, I really liked

547
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: this car and sent the video to Brandon and he

548
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: told me you already have this car, and most recently

549
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: this weekend. I wasn't gonna say anything, but it's a

550
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: perfect segway. Here is you were looking for joints and

551
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: I had told you where they were hours prior, and

552
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: you had gone to look for them. And I know

553
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: this because we were on Marco Polo And then you

554
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: had said, sweetheart, where are the joints? And I told

555
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: you again, and I said, I don't know if there's

556
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: going to be enough left. You said, oh, I've not

557
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: ever looked for them, so I'm sure that it's fully stocked.

558
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: Mind you, you had just done it hours before, so

559
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: it's probably time the test, sweetheart. Okay, Okay, then, well,

560
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: so our next mission comes from Robin. She lives in

561
00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: Costa Rica. She's in her thirties, and nobody lives in Darika,

562
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: who doesn't serve. She writes, dear, Chelsea. I went from

563
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: a peace loving yoga teacher to a raging maniac. Help.

564
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: I was sober and single my entire twenties as an

565
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: no mind altering substances except for an occasional spliff and

566
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: yearly Ayahwaska retreats. Oh Special, Maybe I know her desperate

567
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: to find love. In my thirties, I went into two

568
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: consecutive relationships that may or may not have been with

569
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: narcissistic and manipulative men. Well they basically all are who

570
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: are both drug addicts. I developed a very meaningful relationship

571
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: with ketamine, like very meaningful, like I would roll out

572
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: of bed and wake up with a line and sometimes

573
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: a line and a homemade kombucha champagne cocktail for months.

574
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: This is my question. If I have to do ketamine

575
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: all day, every day and occasionally drink in order to

576
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: tolerate the relationship I'm in, how much longer should I

577
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: stay in said relationship? I know it seems like there

578
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: is an obvious answer to this question, but I am guessing.

579
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm asking sincerely because it seems like the only other

580
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: options are one to be with someone who will literally

581
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: bore me to death, or two you with someone who

582
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: will annoy me to death? Did you write this? I know?

583
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: I was like, listen to how you can't get away

584
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: from people annoying you. You just have to learn how

585
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: to cope with it. But not like this. Well, she

586
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: finishes off. I guess I mostly just feel like the

587
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: same thing will just keep happening, so it's not just

588
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: tough a out and it will eventually get better. Robin,

589
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: what's the ps oh, she says. Ps I'm actually in

590
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: Costa Rica right now and have been sober for over

591
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: a month. But I don't necessarily want to be hell O,

592
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: L I do feel good, though this really seems like

593
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: a letter you would write. Well, yeah, if I were

594
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: snorting ketamine every morning, Okay, Robin, I mean, Robin, you

595
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: have to stop snorting kennemine. That's snorting anything is not good.

596
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: And this is coming from somebody who has snorted lots

597
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: of things. Don't snort ketamine. Please please do it for me.

598
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: And if you have to do any of these things

599
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship, then these people are fucking

600
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: idiots and you can't be around them. You can't drug

601
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: yourself in order to tolerate people. Drugs should be an

602
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: enhanced or is what I've what I've realized, your sweetheart,

603
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: that it should just boost things. You shouldn't take them

604
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: to cope with things. Right, right, And let me be clear,

605
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: because I talk about my use of cannabis a lot

606
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: as a coping mechanism, and this is true. I do.

607
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: I do use cannabis as a coping mechanism, and I have.

608
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: But I've also realized that he that's not the main

609
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: reason I do use it, and I tried never to

610
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: use it to cope with someone. I try not to

611
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: have it as the reason have someone as the reason

612
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: that I need to smoke a joint or take an edible.

613
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: You have to change your perspective about that. Right, you

614
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: should be able. You just said you're feeling good. You've

615
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: been sober for a month, and you're feeling good that

616
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: the proof is in the pudding. Like you, You just

617
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: showed yourself that you don't have to operate in that way.

618
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: All of these things will end up in flames. Dating

619
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: any drug addict is going to end badly unless that

620
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: person is working very hard to get sober. And you

621
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: don't need to date a drug addict. There are plenty

622
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: of options for you. To date people that are not

623
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: drug addicts. And the other option is for you to

624
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: remain alone and actually do some like soul searching and

625
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: inner work so that you're not going to find yourself

626
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: in a situation like this. Again, sweetheart, do you need

627
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: to weigh in? I just think that that was beautifully said.

628
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's ever an appropriate time to

629
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: take drugs to manage your relationship. I think that that's

630
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: and stop snorting things. No snorting, no snorting. I wish

631
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I could, I wish I could. I wish I could

632
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: make a snorting now noise. Now's with my note now Schnauzer,

633
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: there you go, Thank you, sweetheart. Welcome Please, Robin, just

634
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: for me, stop that be alone. Why don't you give

635
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: yourself three months to be alone and be sober, and

636
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: I bet you at the end of that you're gonna

637
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of different thoughts than you do right now. Okay,

638
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: So our next mission comes from Confused in California, thirty

639
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: years old. They write, Dear Chelsea, I need some advice

640
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: with a friend who's struggling with sobriety. My childhood best

641
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: friend has recently acknowledged that she's an alcoholic. I live

642
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: here in California and she lives in Rhode Island. I

643
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: told her, I'm so proud of you. I support you.

644
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: I will do anything to help you. I researched counseling

645
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: services and resources for her to start her sober journey,

646
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: and checked in with her frequently on her progress. This

647
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: enlightened moment was unfortunately short lived, as it quickly turned

648
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: into an oh, just one glass of wine tonight, or

649
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: I won't drink the entire bottle. Not today, Katie, I

650
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: need to relax. I'm trying to remain positive and supportive,

651
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: but I'm frustrated that I'm going to have to watch

652
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: my friends slam into rock bottom? Do I need therapy?

653
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: Do I need to cut her out of my life?

654
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: And I am enabler? Am I annoying? I'm so freaked

655
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: out that the next phone call I have with her

656
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: will be the last. Any advice or compassion on the

657
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: issue would be a huge breath of relief. Hi Anonymous,

658
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Hi Chelsea, Hi Brandon, Hi, Hi, thanks for writing in

659
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: so How short lived was your friend's sobriety? Well, it's

660
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: back and forth, and it's new, it's fresh. Um, I

661
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: think this is her first time really acknowledging that there's

662
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: a bigger issue that she wants to focus on. Since

663
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: I wrote in, she has been making some big strides

664
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: and some big steps on trying to find help and

665
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: support and therapy. But I think really unfortunately in this country,

666
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: mental health help can be so hard to find, especially

667
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: if you don't have insurance or you don't have the

668
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: right insurance. So she's trying, and I'm trying to help her,

669
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: but still new and fresh. Yeah, so you seem like

670
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: a really good friend a So there's that to be

671
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: grateful for and proud of, right, thank you? Yeah, Yeah,

672
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: I've had this experience. I was just with a friend

673
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: this morning who recently got sober, well like you know,

674
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: six months ago, but she went to rehab. There was

675
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: a big intervention. I had told her myself that there

676
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: was a problem, and then she had a big intervention

677
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: and that's when she went to rehab and she came

678
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: out and she is living the high life. She's like,

679
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: this is the best adventure I've ever been on. Is sobriety.

680
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: So there is hope for all of these people, you know,

681
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: So don't ever give up on people. First of all,

682
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: because people do change just when you least expect it.

683
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes they change, you know, when they hit their rock bottom.

684
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Some people don't need to hit a rock bottom. So

685
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: first and foremost, there are tools for you to know about. Oh,

686
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, this book that's sitting right here, Set Boundaries,

687
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Find Peace, A Guide to reclaiming Yourself. Look at this book.

688
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: I just picked this up because it was about codependence

689
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: and counterdependence and it really expliccause I'm like, oh, I'm

690
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: not codependent. And it's like, well, when you enable somebody

691
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: and you make their problems your problems, and you talk

692
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: about their problems like they're your problems, that is codependent.

693
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: That's huge codependent. I think I suffer from counter dependency,

694
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: which will get into later because this isn't really about

695
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: me right now. Sometimes I forget. But you don't want

696
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: to be a codependent friend, right You don't want to

697
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: enable her, but you do want to be supportive of her,

698
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: and so that if she does make a mistake, there's

699
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: not anything punitive from you as a friend. It's like, oh, okay,

700
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: we had to slip up. Well, I guess we as

701
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: probably codependent too, right, but like you had to slip

702
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: up that's okay, it's not the end of the world.

703
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm still here for you. And it's like, like you're

704
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: a team member for her, right, you know you want

705
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: to act like that, like she can rely on you.

706
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: I have that with my friends. It's so important for

707
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: me to be the reliable one, Like I want to

708
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: do what I say and say what I do and

709
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: show up. So I get that. But what's the latest

710
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: with her? What have the last few weeks been? Like, Well,

711
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: I think she's at the point where she's ready to

712
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: get into treatment and she's ready to find the support

713
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: that she needs. But I think she's still in that

714
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: realization of, Oh, I can't have a glass of wine

715
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: on Friday. Oh I have to tell people I can't

716
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: have champagne at their wedding. I have to I can't.

717
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's a social thing that she's starting to realize,

718
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: which you're right, I'm probably codependent of like no one cares.

719
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: It's just me. I love you, and I'm like hyper

720
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: positive and I just don't want to be like annoying.

721
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: Like I can imagine somebody that's having those realizations of

722
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, this is something I'm going to have to

723
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: deal with the rest of my life. I'm like, nah, girl,

724
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: you're good. Shut up. This isn't about you. So I

725
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: think I just I think that's really helpful to hear.

726
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: Is maybe I never realized I was codependent on her.

727
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: Is a part of my personality of trying to help

728
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: is I need to step back and let her take charge.

729
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and you can be like a ballast of

730
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: support for her, you know, but you are not her, right,

731
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: So that's a good reminder and you don't want to play.

732
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: You should pick up this book though, because it's really

733
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: about like all that kind of stuff. And I was

734
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: reading and I was like, oh my god, this is

735
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: so good for me to read again. It's called Set Boundaries,

736
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: Fine Piece by Nedra Glover tawab t A w w

737
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: A B. Anyway, the other thing that is helpful that

738
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: I learned from one of my friends who got sober

739
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: was to not make it a permanent thing, to not

740
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: think of it as a permanent thing, to not think

741
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: of it as I can never have a drink again,

742
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's like kind of like what

743
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: they do in a a which is, you know, take

744
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: it one day at a time. But there's a permanence.

745
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: When people say like I can never have sugar again,

746
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: or I can never have a cigarette again. You know,

747
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: hopefully that's you don't ever have another cigarette. But I

748
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: don't even think you smoke, So I don't, but she does,

749
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: and you know that's like so I'm like, all right,

750
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: we gotta really balance our our demons here. And I

751
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: guess cigarettes. You know. That's the thing too, is there's

752
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I don't do that I'm like, oh,

753
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: it's trying to stop, you know, And that's the opposite

754
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: of what people in her situation want to hear. So

755
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Is as much as I can

756
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: just be that support and be like, it's maybe it's

757
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: not permanent. I just I wonder too. This is kind

758
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: of a hot topic of conversation because we live in California,

759
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: the idea of California sober I've heard that a lot recently,

760
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: and and it's something that her and I talk about,

761
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: is do you cut out you know, what the substance

762
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: is that you feel that you're addicted to, or are

763
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: things like weed and cigarettes? Are those still okay? Yeah?

764
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, that's obviously going to

765
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: be a personal choice for her, but like if she

766
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: has an addiction problem, it's great to cut everything out

767
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: for a period of time and then recalibrate, right and

768
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, when she's going to a wedding or she's

769
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: going to event, she doesn't, you know, if she has

770
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: to tell if somebody she's not drinking. She just said

771
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: I'm not drinking right now. I'm not drinking right now.

772
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: And that's much less of a big deal than saying

773
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm sober or I'm not drinking again, you know what

774
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: I mean. It takes the drama out of it. So

775
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: maybe you can help her reframe that in her mind

776
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I think I think it's all fear,

777
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: which is totally normal. You know. I think at thirty,

778
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: we're at the point where it's like we can go

779
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: on vacation and get crazy, but you can't do that

780
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday at eight am. I think that finally

781
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: was the point that she got to of like, oh

782
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: my other friends aren't doing this, or you know, we're

783
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: not on vacation. I shouldn't be, you know, drinking this

784
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: earlier all day every day. So it's it's such a

785
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: learning curve that I don't know if as a kid,

786
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: I saw this happening for our relationship. But I'm just

787
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: happy she's okay and wants to take these steps and

788
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: we're able to get advice from people like you and

789
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: other professionals that that know what they're talking about because

790
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: it's so sensitive and it's so layered. Yeah, well, she's

791
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: lucky to have your friend like you that cares enough

792
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: to call it about this, you know. So that's really nice.

793
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: And we will keep your anonymity because you requested that,

794
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: and I mean that's really good. And all you can

795
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: do is just show up for her and be supportive,

796
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: and if she does slip up, you know, that's not

797
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: the end of the world either. It's just a little

798
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: mistake and it's a little blip, and you know, you

799
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: got to look at the bigger picture and where she's

800
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: headed in that direction and just try and help support

801
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: that movement. Definitely, And I'm definitely going to get that book, Okay. Yeah,

802
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm always on a book book tour, so I love

803
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: and I love your books too, They're so great. And

804
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: you even though I know you said, like in your

805
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: podcast before, like I'm not a doctor, but you know,

806
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: just hearing someone with such experience and growth is so helpful. Well,

807
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: thank you for calling in, Brandon. Did you want to

808
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: say any fucking thing? It was very It was very

809
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: it's falling in love. It was very eloquently put. The

810
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: only thing that I would add is that I've had

811
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: to learn this the hard way. But support does not

812
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: have to be up close and personal. You can you

813
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: can support people from afar sometimes and that's what they

814
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: need as well. So I know it seems that in

815
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: those moments you need to really be there by their side,

816
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: but it can almost be overwhelming, I think to a

817
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: certain degree. So just letting them know acknowledging that you're

818
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: there and that if they need anything you are happy

819
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: to support however you can. But it doesn't have to

820
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: be consistent, ay check ins. It doesn't have to be

821
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: holding them accountable like they have to do that themselves

822
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: as well. So I think just you know, as she

823
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: kind of embarks on this and you're along for the ride,

824
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: you have to remember it's her ride, like you're just

825
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: in the car, So kind of let her lead the way,

826
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: but be there how you can. And yeah, I think

827
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: that you're doing all the right things. You're posing the

828
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: right questions. Again, like Chelsea said, she's really lucky to

829
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: have you in her corner to support, So it's just

830
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: kind of rethinking about how you're doing that. And to

831
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: Chelsea's point, the one last thing that I would say

832
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: is she can take back the purpose of this and

833
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: she can change the verbage instead of saying like I

834
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: can't have this, I don't want it, Like you don't

835
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: want to be drunk at nine am as a third

836
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: year old. So even in that way, like I have

837
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: to remind myself, I don't want fifty five popped hearts

838
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: a day. I would like them sometimes, but like I

839
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: don't want that, like I want to be better and healthier,

840
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: and she does too. So even reframing those little words

841
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: instead of I I don't want, because then it's your choice,

842
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: it's not something that's being chosen for you. Definitely, I

843
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: love that analogy of being in the car. I'm in

844
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: the car, I've got my seatbelts on and I'm just

845
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: trying not to jump out. I just I want to

846
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: be there and maybe in the back seat, like maybe

847
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, in my car seat in the back. Yeah,

848
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: you have your headphones on, your not backseat driving you're

849
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: just there. Well, you do want to have an air bag,

850
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: so you might want to sit up front. Good boy,

851
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Definitely, Well, thank you so much.

852
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: Let us know how it goes. Keep us posted on

853
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: her posted. I definitely will for sure and all her

854
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: her success and her struggles. Thank you guys so much.

855
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Have a good day by you too.

856
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: By What are your thoughts on that? My thoughts on

857
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: that are that I just love all of our callers.

858
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: I can't believe how normal and cool everyone has been.

859
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: Every single time we get on the phone, I'm like

860
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: impressed by the person. Do you know how nice that is?

861
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: It's shocking, honestly because most people, all these people seem

862
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: so great it and like they would have good, you know,

863
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: social skills out in the real world, but then you

864
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: interact with people outside of the studio and that's not

865
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: the case. So this is a good time to bring

866
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: in Demi Lovato, who just came out as non binary.

867
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: So congratulations for coming out as non binary, because that

868
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: is a very difficult thing to do. Demi has a

869
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: lot of experience in talking about addiction. They have their

870
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: own personal experience with addiction. So I think they will

871
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: be able to contribute to this conversation in a way

872
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: that you are. I may not be. There's nothing more

873
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: enticing about a person endearing than authenticity in their flaws

874
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: or their errors, because you know, what you get is

875
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: what you see. Yeah, Okay, hi, Demi, Hi, but that

876
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: was so nice. You're so sweet. Well, Brandon, I'm not

877
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: really that sweet. It looks so you look so cutey.

878
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: Thank you got dressed up just for y'all. I'll look

879
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: at that. Your outfit matches your lamp. Look what you

880
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: did color coordinating. It's a very tired eye, look Sudhart.

881
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: They're busting out of their shirt, just like you do

882
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: in front of me every day. Sweetheart. I'm just trying

883
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: to thank you, thank you for noticing. Actually, well I'm gay,

884
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: but as you know, I immediately look at someone's chest

885
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: just to see what's going on. Only gay men can

886
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: say that now, or can they actually? Who fucking no,

887
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: don't know. I probably shouldn't know. You shouldn't we take

888
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: it back? I know. So you're welcome to all the

889
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: straight men. Okay, So, de mean, we needed your input

890
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: on a couple of callers we've had in so we

891
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: know these are areas that you kind of have been

892
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: really public about, so we would love your feedback. What

893
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: is the first one, sweetheart? Well, so, the first one

894
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: is someone wrote in about a friend who is slipping

895
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: off of the wagon. So I think they're just having

896
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: a little difficulty on their journey through sobriety. And in

897
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: your experience of going through sobriety a couple of times

898
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: and knowing that it's a process that there's no one

899
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: track for each person, how do you think people can

900
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: be there to support someone who is trying you stay sober.

901
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: I think the best way to handle any situation when

902
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: it comes to helping someone through an addiction is having

903
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: compassion for that person, knowing that that addiction is stemming

904
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: from a place of pain, and so therefore when that

905
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: person is acting out in their addiction, they're hurting. You know,

906
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: nobody ever acts out in an addiction out of joy,

907
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: and so I always just try to remember that, Like,

908
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: if this was a friend of mine falling off the wagon,

909
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: I would have compassion for them. I would absolutely let

910
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: them know that I was there for them. But that

911
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: it's tricky because for me, I can't be around people

912
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: that are actively using things that either I used to

913
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: like or just things that are dangerous. I don't like

914
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: watching my friends put themselves in situations that are harm

915
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: full because of I too, I've I've lost a lot

916
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: of people, and so I set a strong boundary with

917
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: those people while also telling them if you need help,

918
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: If you want help, I'm here for you. I love you,

919
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: and I'm here for you. I can't sit by and

920
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: watch this happen to you. I'm not abandoning you. I'm here,

921
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: but I can't sit by and watch. And so when

922
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: you're ready to get the help that you need, I'll

923
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: be there for you and whatever capacity you need me to,

924
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: whether that's calling the rehab and getting you set up

925
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: there or taking you to a meeting or whatever it is. Like,

926
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: I think compassion is key. What's your take on tough

927
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: love in that situation? Does it work? I think, like

928
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: you said, it's it's different for every person, and so

929
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: tough love may work on some people. It did not

930
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: work on me. Tough love to me felt like these

931
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: people are leaving me once again. Kind of fueled the fire.

932
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: And so that's why I stress compassion so much when

933
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: talking about people in their addictions because it's like they're

934
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: obviously going through something. And so when someone says I'm leaving,

935
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm out of here, tough love whatever, you know, that

936
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: made me go more inward and that made me actually

937
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: act out more. And so I air on the side

938
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: of caution when telling people to have tough love. You know,

939
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: it's it's important to stay completely transparent and honest. You

940
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: can totally do that. But I think in the same

941
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: way that I don't do well with a trainer that

942
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: yells mean things that made when I'm working out like

943
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to do better when I have a trainer

944
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: that's like, hey, you're killing it, keep going like or

945
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: I know this is hard right now, but you can

946
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: do this. You know. It's like it's stuff like that

947
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: that helps push me to the other side of the

948
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: finish line. And it might actually be the wrong thing

949
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: to say to someone, and you can't take it back,

950
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: you know. That's the tricky part about tough love. So

951
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: once you go past that line, you kind of can't

952
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: reel it in because they've already heard the toughness. Yeah, yeah,

953
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: which is my specialty. So I'm glad that we got

954
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: your point of view on that for sure, because you

955
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: speak from experience, which is better than no experience at all.

956
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: And I haven't had to get that kind of tough love,

957
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: so I yeah, So I'm glad I didn't give advice

958
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: on that and we had. It's interesting to hear because

959
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: my mom is currently going through an issue with her sobriety.

960
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: So she's an alcoholic, she was sober for a chunk

961
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: of time. She's no longer sober. She actually may be

962
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: sober right now. It's a little touch and go. But

963
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: for me, my stance has always been you have to

964
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: be sober for yourself. So as much as I wanted

965
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: to be there to support her, I didn't want her

966
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: kids to be the reason she stayed sober. So what

967
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: about family members who have someone who's going through this

968
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: and they want to be supportive but also want to

969
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: set up positioning where you have to be sober for yourself.

970
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,959
Speaker 1: It has to be something you want because then there's

971
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: a pressure to those around you to help them maintain

972
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: hang their sobriety, and a responsibility like if we do something,

973
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: we could be harming your path of sobriety, right, you know.

974
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: I think that's why if you always act out of

975
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: a place of compassion. You can't go wrong. I think

976
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: that when having empathy for people, no one's going to

977
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: take that the wrong way. You know, it's it's you're

978
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: showing love, You're showing grace and mercy. I think that

979
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: having the understanding that, like we've kind of been taught

980
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: through the Book of Alcoholics Anonymous for almost a hundred

981
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: years now, that that is the only way right. And

982
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: and not to say anything bad about a A by

983
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: any means, it's just it's almost a hundred years old.

984
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: And so with the way that things progress over time,

985
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: there starts to become different solutions for different people. And

986
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: so it's it's no longer a one size fits all solution.

987
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: What if your mom decides that she doesn't want to

988
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: be sober and she's able to manage it, you know,

989
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: it just we don't know what the future holds. And

990
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: so I think being mindful of like it always has

991
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: to come from a place of that person wanting to

992
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: be sober. If they don't want to be sober, they're

993
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: not going to stay sober. They're always gonna wonder and

994
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: if and it just it's one vulnerable moment I had

995
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: but I think that's true what you're saying, Like, you know,

996
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: a A isn't for everybody. I had a friend who

997
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: got sober and he didn't do it through a he

998
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: didn't go to rehab. He was like, this sounds all.

999
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 1: He got ketamine treatments and he just stopped one day

1000
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: and then he would drink when he was on vacation,

1001
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: but not drink when he was here, and then he

1002
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: just stopped and it's been like two years since he's

1003
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: had a drink. And he was like, listen, a A

1004
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: is not for me, Like, I'm not going to a

1005
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: A meetings and I'm not going to rehab. He's like,

1006
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: I understand I have a drinking problem. I understand it

1007
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: got out of hand, but I'm never going to say

1008
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: to myself, I'm never going to drink again. He goes,

1009
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that to myself. I'm just going to

1010
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: say I had to get the situation under control, and

1011
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: then that turned into sobriety for him. Right, And it's

1012
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: just kind of like it's almost analogous to the classroom

1013
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: isn't always the best place for kids to learn, right.

1014
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: Everybody has different needs and desires and they respond to

1015
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: different kinds of interactions with people, and I think that

1016
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: applies to everything in life now so well sobriety. The

1017
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: way that Demi just described it, it's kind of like

1018
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: the Constitution. It's like how this was established with a

1019
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: There are so many more possibilities now for people to

1020
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: get their addictions under control or to find an outlet

1021
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: that is not they're going to abuse. So, for instance,

1022
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what the positioning is for a A,

1023
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: but my mom at the time was interested in taking

1024
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: cannabis to be able to relax to night because that

1025
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: was her stressor and when she would drink. And so

1026
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: that's California sober, isn't it. That's California. Yeah, And so

1027
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: you've mentioned that and not to me seems like a

1028
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: much more realistic approach to trying to find something that

1029
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: works for you, because just because you had an issue

1030
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: with one substance does not mean you're going to have

1031
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: an issue with another. But again, it's reconciling that there

1032
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: was an issue and then trying to enter into that cautiously.

1033
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: I would think, yes, absolutely, it's it's look, I I

1034
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: am aware of where my substance patterns have ended me

1035
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: up in the past. So it's like, even when starting

1036
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: this journey of California sober, you know, I needed to

1037
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: be very careful that I wanted to make sure that

1038
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: I didn't start smoking too much. And there's been periods

1039
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: where I've smoked probably too much, and then and some

1040
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: periods where I don't smoke at all. You know, it's

1041
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: just about finding that balance of what works for you,

1042
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: and so I encourage you to support your mom and

1043
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: finding what works best for her. Look, I always go

1044
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: back to cannabis because I just I know I'm going

1045
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: to wake up in the morning. I can't say the

1046
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: same for other substances. And that's why I feel okay smoking. Now,

1047
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: if that doesn't work for another person, then that doesn't

1048
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: work for them, and that's okay. I just encourage support

1049
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: finding their journey and their own path and not just

1050
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: going to this dogmatic view of recovery, which is, you know,

1051
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: A or the highway. Well, so that kind of answers

1052
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: the next question. So we have someone call in who

1053
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: has been Shane taking well, so Shane Shane is one.

1054
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: We'll get to Shane, but the the other one was

1055
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: the person who called in and they had been using

1056
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: ketamine to try and make their relationship work. So they're

1057
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: trying to find something that, again not specifically to the

1058
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: relationship the way Dummy's describing it, but you have to

1059
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: find something that works for you. I don't know what's

1060
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: going on in the relationship that would cause them to

1061
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: need to supplement its seemingly happiness with a subject. Ademine

1062
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily Snorting lines of ketamine is a lot different

1063
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: than academine infusion, which is usually guided by a medical professional.

1064
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: I am not a medical professional. I like to repeat

1065
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: that consistently on this podcast because I know a lot

1066
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: of people get confused because I'm trying to confuse them him.

1067
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: But ketamine infusions are a very therapeutic tool for a

1068
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: lot of people. So snort and kenemine is kind of

1069
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: like something you would do at a party or off

1070
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: somebody's ass. Much different utility, right, right, So kenemine infusions

1071
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: are one thing, and those are helpful. Like that. My

1072
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: friend who got sober went and got ketamine infusions in

1073
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: l A a a bunch of times, and that's becoming, you know,

1074
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: more mainstream than it ever has been. With micro dosing

1075
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: psilocybin LSD, like there's all these great healing benefits. But

1076
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: I actually let's talk about Shane though, because I can. So.

1077
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: This guy called in. He says he's a stoner. He

1078
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 1: stoned all the time, his roommates smoke all the time,

1079
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: and he just feels like brain dead. And I was like,

1080
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: it sounds like you need a break, like and when

1081
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm researching cannabis and reading about it.

1082
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: I've been told that you take like a week a

1083
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: month or a month a year. So I told him

1084
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: to take a month off. And then I was like,

1085
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, and he's like, it's gonna be so hard,

1086
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'll do it with you. I'll

1087
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: take a month off just to do it in concert

1088
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: with him. But also I feel great taking a break

1089
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: from smoking weed. You know, it's another exercise of your

1090
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: control over yourself, like to say, okay, I can say

1091
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: no to this for thirty days, it's obviously gonna do

1092
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: me good. I'd love to be able to smoke a

1093
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: joint in thirty days and be high as a kite again,

1094
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, like, you know, I get that feeling back

1095
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: instead of having you know, over smoking, like I can

1096
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: tend to do. Do you take breaks from weed I do.

1097
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: I call them weed taxes, like a little I'm like, yeah,

1098
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: I just tell my therapist. I'm like, yeah, I'm going

1099
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: on a little weed talks this week. And uh, I

1100
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: just I actually didn't even know that that's what you're

1101
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: supposed to do. I just kind of like naturally started

1102
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: doing that, because yeah, if you if you're not careful,

1103
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: you can build your tolerance too quick and then all

1104
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, your tolerance is super high, and you're

1105
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: just like, it is nice to take a break, and

1106
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: first of all, you feel super clearheaded, super present, and

1107
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: then yeah, your tolerances jump started. So it's like I

1108
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: kind of I think I used to do that with

1109
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: caffeine to back in the day when I was drinking caffeine,

1110
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, it's just it's it's interesting. It's like

1111
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: cannabis is something that like it's so gentle, and in

1112
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: my experience, it may not be that way for everybody else,

1113
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: but in my experience it's been so gentle to where

1114
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: if I need to go without it for a period

1115
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: of time, I can stop and be fine, and then

1116
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: when I'm on vacation, I can smoke it during the

1117
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: day and and at night and be fine. You know.

1118
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with the tolerance though, you know, that's

1119
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: my main objective, because my tolerance gets so high that

1120
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, you know, I can take

1121
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: like a twenty five milligram edible and just feel like

1122
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: a little dense, and you're like, okay, this is getting

1123
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: carried away, you know. And plus it becomes very expensive.

1124
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: I was in the habit of getting in my car

1125
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: in the morning or in the you know, we'll be

1126
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: on the way to the podcast and I'll have a joy,

1127
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, and then I'm just like, oh wait, this

1128
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: is my becoming my morning routine. I don't want anything

1129
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: to be my morning routine that's not purely healthy, you know.

1130
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: So it's always been to change up the dynamic and

1131
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: to change up your relationship to the substance or whatever

1132
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: it is you're having. Noticed that if you are having

1133
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: like a really hard time putting it down, maybe it's

1134
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: time to reevaluate your relationship with that substance. You know.

1135
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: If the weed talk is too difficult, it's like, talk

1136
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: to the therapist, do what you gotta do and figure

1137
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: it out, because obviously that's not working for you. Anymore

1138
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: if you're needing to do it every single day. Well,

1139
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear you talk about cannabis because women

1140
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: are finally getting a place in the cannabis space again

1141
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: where it's been predominantly male focus for so long, and

1142
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: there are so many ways to take it now with edibles,

1143
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: with the vapens, you you can sick them anywhere basically

1144
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: so our spositories. I've seen this so for for women

1145
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: who are listening to this and thinking like I would

1146
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: love to introduce myself to cannabis as a way to

1147
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: deal with my anxiety, to help me sleep, to to

1148
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: enjoy a day out. You know, some people want to

1149
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: be social but have such a hard time getting over

1150
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: the hump in a social situation. What would you both

1151
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: recommend for women who are interested in want to dabble

1152
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: get into enter the cannabis space. I think you just

1153
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: have to go to your local, like honestly, the micro dosing.

1154
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: You can find things that are two and a half milligrams,

1155
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: you can find mints that are one milligram, and you

1156
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: have to just go with the smallest, smallest dosage and

1157
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: try it and see how it affects you. Because it

1158
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: is not for everybody. You know, I'm the biggest pusher

1159
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: in the world. I want everyone to be stoned, but

1160
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: some people just I have a couple of girlfriends that

1161
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: cannot handle it, and I'm not trying to convince them

1162
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: anymore because I've tried too many times and it always

1163
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: ends up, you know, not being pretty. So I'm like, Okay,

1164
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: I give up about you. I would say so, yes,

1165
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 1: definitely going to your local dispensary. I think there's there's

1166
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: really interesting ways that you can, like you said, and

1167
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: take cannabis. So there's these drinks called can those too. Yeah,

1168
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: they're like two milligrams. If someone comes over and they're

1169
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: not used to smoke king, I'll give them one of

1170
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: those and say. They even have like a lid that

1171
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: you can save it for later of situation. Or like

1172
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: dosst pens, they vibrate when you've hit a full hit

1173
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: and so it measures the hits out for you. So

1174
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: not just like hitting a vape pen. There's different ways,

1175
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: and I encourage people to explore. That's what life is about,

1176
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: is exploring and so finding what works for you. And

1177
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: if that's if that's cannabis, great, If it's just CBD. Great.

1178
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: If it's none of the above, great, whatever works for

1179
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: you because of your history, did you have people in

1180
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: your circle that are concerned that you're even smoking cannabis

1181
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: or are they pretty supportive of the green um? I'd

1182
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: say my my team is, for the most part, pretty supportive.

1183
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: I've been on this journey since like summer of two

1184
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, so it's not been I think we're I've

1185
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: gained trust back and you know, they've they've seen me

1186
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: be able to have a healthy relationship with cannabis. I

1187
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: think that maybe my security guard, Max and maybe Scooter

1188
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: are like the They kind of are like Max is

1189
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: like my dad. He's like I think he'll always just

1190
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: be the type of dad that like never wants to

1191
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: see his daughter smoking weed. You know what I'm saying,

1192
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: Like he rolls his eyes when I light up a

1193
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: joint or something. But like it's it's not out of judgment.

1194
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: It's just like whatever floats true vote kind of thing,

1195
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: and we make jokes about it. But yeah, I think

1196
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: that's I think it's out of protectiveness. And if anything,

1197
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: everyone or else else around me knows how much it

1198
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: works for me and how much has changed my life

1199
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 1: because I've been able to find relief and still wake

1200
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: up the next morning. And also just you know, when

1201
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm celebrating something like my album, you know, it's no

1202
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: longer like you don't have to go to a bar

1203
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: and get drunk, you and light a joint, remember the

1204
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: entire night, you know. So it's just it's it's cool.

1205
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: People have seen how it worked for me, how it

1206
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: works for me, and they're just supportive now. So moral

1207
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: of the story is, with substances, there's no one size

1208
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: fits all. With recovery, there's no one size fits all.

1209
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: But remember when we're going to go look at that house.

1210
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, I forgot that we saw a house,

1211
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: and then I looked at it online. She was very

1212
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: stones when we went, oh my god. And then three

1213
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: weeks later I saw the house online. I said to

1214
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: him the link. I'm like, I want to see that house.

1215
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: He's like, sweetheart, we already saw that house, did a

1216
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: full walk through, spent like a chunk of time in

1217
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: this home. So that's just how you know when it's

1218
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: time for a weed talk. Yeah, that's right, and you

1219
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: need to get that shirt. But I'm like, right, I'm

1220
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: blacking out on weed. I don't need that. That's why

1221
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't drink so much anymore. I mean I thought, yeah,

1222
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't realize your memory could go. But

1223
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: you know what, Yeah, that's exactly right. So I'm excited

1224
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: about my weed talks, and I'm thank you for your

1225
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: stamp of approval. Demi. Yes, absolutely, we talk up. Thank

1226
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: you so much, Thanks so much for calling in. We

1227
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: love you, Thank you, love you guys. Okay, it sounds

1228
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: like it's time to take a break, so that's what

1229
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. You guys will be right back. Well

1230
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: that was fun, Demi Lovato was fun. Yeah, they're a

1231
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: good time. Yes, I like them. They are coming from

1232
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: a place of love, and as we are, sweetheart, we

1233
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: are coming from a place of deep love. Deep. You

1234
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: must lead with love. You must lead with deep love. Deep.

1235
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: So important to have these conversations about drugs because as

1236
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: things become legalized, and and as these drugs become more

1237
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: popularized to some degree, we need to know about appropriate use,

1238
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: about responsible use, and the only way to do that

1239
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: is to have conversations that might be a little uncomfortable.

1240
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: But I can't wait till my niees we're doing here.

1241
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait till my niece starts to get like

1242
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: because she's so anti drugs. I was in San Francisco

1243
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: last weekend visiting my sister, and my niece is so

1244
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: anti drugs, like she is so drugs everything like she

1245
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, she knows we we are always taking edibles,

1246
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: are always out and about. Obviously we have no secrets

1247
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: in our family, and she's just always like we always

1248
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: try to get her to have a drink. We were like,

1249
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: come on, have a glass of champagne, and she's just

1250
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: like nope, nope, nope. And I'm just like, you know what,

1251
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: I was anti drugs too, and when in high school

1252
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: I was against them. I couldn't believe people who use them.

1253
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: And then I tried them. And so is it? What

1254
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: is her stance on it? Why is she in such opposition.

1255
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: I think she's just she wants to be in control

1256
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: of herself. So I think that's it. I think that's

1257
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people's reasons for not wanting to experiment

1258
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: is that they are going to lose control. I kind

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Speaker 1: of like that feeling. Do you think it's But I

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01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: also don't feel like I lose control when I take

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Speaker 1: an edible or something like that, it's not a loss

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Speaker 1: of control. It's just you're not as I don't know,

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01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 1: but for people who are Type A, it does feel

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Speaker 1: out of control to some degree, because that's how I feel,

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Speaker 1: I would assume, especially when I started, because I am

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Speaker 1: so particular and so in control in a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways that when I took an edible, it's like how

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Speaker 1: when I take a five milligram it could feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm taking a twenty because I'm wound so tight that

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Speaker 1: that level of relaxation feels very foreign, or did in

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Speaker 1: the beginning for me. But it was also a superiority

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Speaker 1: thing for me, Like I liked being able to say

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Speaker 1: that I'd never done drugs, and then I realized what

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Speaker 1: the fund is? What's the point of that, because then

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Speaker 1: I will have never experienced anything right, right, right, And

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Speaker 1: now I've done drugs and I'm much happier about it. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean as long as you're yeah. I mean, everyone

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Speaker 1: needs to just get over themselves with regard to drugs

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Speaker 1: like there, we really have to work hard at destigmatizing

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Speaker 1: all of it because it's like, especially cannabis, it's medicine

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01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: for so many people like I don't want anybody to

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01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: being denied of medicine, do you well. And it's interesting

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01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: because the my Midwest counterparts, my family who are still there,

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01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: their stance is so against recreational canvas they're talking about

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Speaker 1: because they're all indoctrinated by government saying that it's a

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Speaker 1: criminalized thing. And yeah, they're all alcoholics, exactly like alcohol

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Speaker 1: is better than cannabis. No, fucking nay, no, especially not

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Speaker 1: for the blow no. I remember I gave my dog

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Speaker 1: Chanca zan x once on a flight to Spain and he,

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Speaker 1: I know, all of this is very relatable listeners, he

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Speaker 1: freaked out. He freaked out, and he was heightened and

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Speaker 1: psycho and he was acting in ways I had never

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Speaker 1: seen him act before. But it was such a long flight.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was helping him, so I could just

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01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: put him to sleep for the flight so he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be on a twelve hour flight. And it backfired. And

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Speaker 1: when also backfired was that I also had taken the

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Speaker 1: zan x, so I was sleeping and he was fucking

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Speaker 1: freaking out. And when I got home and I spoke

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Speaker 1: to my vet, I said, I don't understand what happened,

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Speaker 1: And he said when your dog is in a heightened

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Speaker 1: state like what you were describing, if you give him

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Speaker 1: a zan X, he will stay in that heightened state.

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I'm like I'm in a

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Speaker 1: constant state of ad agitation and when I take a Zannex,

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Speaker 1: I go to sleep. So I guess dogs physiology and

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01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: biology is different than ours. Well now we know, and

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Speaker 1: that's an important lesson for everyone listening. Do not give

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Speaker 1: your dog humans annex. No, that was an actually it

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Speaker 1: was his annex that I took from him. To be

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Speaker 1: completely honest, I looked up what that that had prescribed

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Speaker 1: him and I was like, oh, I like xann X.

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Speaker 1: Because you're a doctor, you knew what portions you. So

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Speaker 1: I gave one of myself and I give one to

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Speaker 1: Chunk and then I had a really embarrassing flight per Chunk. Well,

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Speaker 1: on that note, the important thing is to calibrate your

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Speaker 1: drug experience, because there's losing control in a fun, harmless way,

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Speaker 1: and then there's losing control of your life, and you

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01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: know those things are different, and losing control of your

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Speaker 1: life is very very serious. As we've heard today from

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's not a fun ride. A

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Speaker 1: road to go down well, that you need to take

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Speaker 1: personal inventory of where you're at with your drug use,

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Speaker 1: which is what you're doing now. So you're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a month Off'm going to take a month off of cannabis,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to hold you and my taking off

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Speaker 1: a month of edibles and smoking or just smoking your

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01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: throat could use it for the smoking, but you should

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Speaker 1: probably do a full detox. Okay, I can do that,

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Speaker 1: no problem. Well report back. Yeah, I'm setting an example.

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Speaker 1: I gave Shane my word and I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: break it. Shane. We'll see what Shane. I hope Shane

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Speaker 1: is able to get through the month. Probably not, but

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Speaker 1: I'll do it regardless because I stand by my word.

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Speaker 1: It's science. I hope I don't get pregnant.