WEBVTT - Surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies.

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<v Speaker 1>These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 3>These are our stories, done done Yay.

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<v Speaker 2>Another episode of That's Messed Up an SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Lisa, Hello, and I'm Kara, and we

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<v Speaker 1>cover SVU episodes. We recap them, we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>true crime they're based on, and then we usually interview

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<v Speaker 1>a fabulous guest from the episode, which we will be

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the works very soon. Now that the strike

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<v Speaker 1>is over, we'll be getting guests back into the rotation

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<v Speaker 1>and can't wait until then. We chat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm really excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we should start talking about horror movies and

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. Is is that going to

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<v Speaker 2>be over and over and over again? No, I actually

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<v Speaker 2>have something to say. My tattoo is healing worse than

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<v Speaker 2>any tattoo I've ever got gotten in my life. I

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<v Speaker 2>am pissed. It still hurts five days after. It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be hurting like this. It is the thickest, scabbing and dry.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like it's like nothing else I've ever experienced

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<v Speaker 2>in my gosh. I email the tattoo shop obviously it's

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<v Speaker 2>too early for them, and then I messaged our friend

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<v Speaker 2>Melissa because she's tatted, and she sent it to her

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo artist.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, that's I guess. My question is, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is that an indication of the tattoo artist when that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing happens.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he overworked the skin. I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think by the end every time he rubbed, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a small tattoo, and I did think it took a

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<v Speaker 2>little longer than it bled more than I usually do.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have now, looking back, I should have taken

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<v Speaker 2>another skin. I should have let it breathe a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know, but I've had those issues with

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<v Speaker 2>other tattoos, Like yeah, I just have probably over twenty

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, and it's nothing has ever looked this thick.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, sorry to be gross to.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone, just starting off your day with some thick scabbing

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<v Speaker 1>well because it hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>And but the tattooartist who got back to me was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just really angry. You know, I don't think it's infected.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been online, you know, it's I just think it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a longer road than I would anticipate. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's also because it's in a place where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing clothes and maybe hugging the pillows, like right,

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<v Speaker 2>it might just be like that. But it's just it's tweety.

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<v Speaker 2>So tweety looks scary. Tweety is thickly shedding in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that is not peeling. It's supposed to like peel,

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<v Speaker 2>like a thin layer of peeling. This is thick scabs.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, instead of sweety tweety, it's like meaty tweety,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're not loving this Frank and Stine like Frankenstein.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's just like, I it's not what I

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<v Speaker 2>want when I have to fly home, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be wearing sleeve. It's just like fuck. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was I think it was the art. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he overworked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he went in too much with the color

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<v Speaker 2>and like went a little too rough. Oh I think

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<v Speaker 2>he was black. I don't know, but I know that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only gonna go to people I've gone to before,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I usually also go to random people.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people are like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they research, they find real people, they save up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big event. I'm a real last minute girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've also dropped into shops all the time, all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world, and nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this, wow wow wow wow thing like this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wishing you quick healing and well, not quick at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I think it's gonna be the longest that I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it likes not magically starts to heal better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in other great news, I'm really having a like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm already in World eight for Mario, like I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all the way to Bowser and lost, but

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<v Speaker 2>like to get to the final Bowser a childhood me

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<v Speaker 2>would have never imagined.

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<v Speaker 1>Never imagined.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when I was watching the youtubes of certain levels,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I will never be able to pass this,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is insane, and I'm like, am I at

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<v Speaker 2>Bowser's castle?

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I feel like I beat a game once

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, but I don't know which

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<v Speaker 1>one it was, Like I remember facing off against Bowser

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, but it was regular nes like probably

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<v Speaker 1>just like Mario one.

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<v Speaker 2>Like but yeah, but if you went to the eighth world,

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<v Speaker 2>because there is a Bowser at the end of Every World.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I think it was like we beat the

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<v Speaker 1>game like my brother and I like tag team and

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<v Speaker 1>worked on it together. Wow, I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know how it would be so cloudy,

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't remember losing your shit, like that's like

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<v Speaker 2>a memory.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Maybe I like watched him do it, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we worked on it together and like

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<v Speaker 1>beat beat one of the Mario game, but it it

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<v Speaker 1>would have only been that one. That's like the only

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<v Speaker 1>one we ever worked that hard on. Oh god, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not starting, but I have like it saved

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<v Speaker 2>at a certain point, so I just go to these

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<v Speaker 2>levels and I'm practicing and going through it. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>keeping my arsenal of supplies till the end because that's

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<v Speaker 2>my big you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I've already told you about this whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know. I'm really happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Once I feel ready, I'm gonna do the full the

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<v Speaker 2>full journey.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wow at once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just like really see if I can like

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<v Speaker 2>fully beat the game in ones that like like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the children did in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows the switch has really changed your life? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I went and I saw Mariah Carey and concert at

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<v Speaker 1>the Oh My God Friday, and like I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>just like didn't realize how christmasy it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was so awesome. It was so magical, like

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<v Speaker 1>you just walked in and it was like snowflakes and

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<v Speaker 1>like jingle bells and like really really fun. We had

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<v Speaker 1>fine seats, not like amazing, not terrible. And she was

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<v Speaker 1>so different than when I saw her last time, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think I may have talked here about how I

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<v Speaker 1>was going, and like I saw her five or six

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<v Speaker 1>years ago with Lionel Richie, and she did like forty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes up top. She barely walked. She did not take

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<v Speaker 1>a step on the stage that was unassisted. She was

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<v Speaker 1>lifted up by beefy men or carried or like pushed

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<v Speaker 1>across the stage in a throne. It just all felt

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<v Speaker 1>very kind of like lazy, you know. She was just

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<v Speaker 1>like showing up and was like whatever, and sang a

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<v Speaker 1>few songs, like never finished a song, and like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>She was strutting around. I don't know if she's on

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<v Speaker 1>ozembic or what. She looks amazing strutting around the stage

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<v Speaker 1>not a person helping her. I was like look at

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<v Speaker 1>her walking on assisted. I can't believe this. And then

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<v Speaker 1>like her kids are out there with her, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show. Like when I saw her five

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, she brought them out and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this must be so crazy because she

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<v Speaker 1>just brought them out and they just saw thousands of flashlights,

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<v Speaker 1>like and people screaming for them. And now they're like

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show, Like it looks like an old

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<v Speaker 1>navy ad, like a lot of it because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like her and her kids like doing fun stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>then at one point, like my friend Liz, who had

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<v Speaker 1>come up to visit me and to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>concert with me, was like, I don't know if she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do anything non Christmas. And then at this

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show she goes, you know, some people

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<v Speaker 1>were wondering if I was going to do any non

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas songs, and I was like, yeah, Like she did

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of hits and it was whoa. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>she did. She did Always Be My Baby, she did

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<v Speaker 1>We Belong Together, she did Oh my God, like I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was was there a fantasy heartbreaker? Shake it Off?

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<v Speaker 1>I think she did Dreamless. She didn't do shake it off.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she did Hearp Fantasy God. Now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't I remember the set list exactly? But it

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<v Speaker 1>was just really fun and she sounded amazing, like she

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like she does in recordings, which was making me

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if she was really singing. But my friend Liz

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<v Speaker 1>kept going, she's a diva, of course she's really singing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, I love that rationale, she's a diva. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, no, I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>weird for her to sing with a backing track. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she sounds just like the recordings, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of rare. You don't like see you know, performers not well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also not been the track record. Yeah, she has

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<v Speaker 1>lip synced.

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<v Speaker 2>Matteo famously goes, he's gone to this Christmas show, I

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<v Speaker 2>think every year for many many years, and one time

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<v Speaker 2>he did like a red carpet like holiday thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I went and just saw her do like just the

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<v Speaker 2>hit and she was not singing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So for people to be like, is she singing?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she not? It's you know, it's like the history

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<v Speaker 1>of it too. Yeah, And I didn't really care either way.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, I wonder if she's singing, and my

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<v Speaker 1>friend was like offended. She was like, of course she's singing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, but it sounds so much like I

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<v Speaker 1>went to go see Laura and Hill do, and she

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<v Speaker 1>did like a lot of the mis education. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the a twentieth anniversary of mis Education. She is riffing,

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing different versions of it, like Mariah just sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like the studio records. But everyone was having the best time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody like like light up jingle bell hats and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was just fun and like Christmassy, and like

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<v Speaker 1>there were a bunch of like funny old gay men

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<v Speaker 1>behind us that were having a time, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>kept turning around and being like laughing with them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just had a good time. It was great. Was

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<v Speaker 1>there confetti? No, maybe there was down by her, but

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<v Speaker 1>no not no, not like not a big confetti thing.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the projections were like snowflakes. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like snow and like, oh my gosh, and like she

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<v Speaker 1>did a bunch of alpha changes. She looked gorgeous, like

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<v Speaker 1>she had hot dancers. Like it was great. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a very joke and she they said, Katla told me

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<v Speaker 1>she was going to show up at eight thirty. She

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<v Speaker 1>was on that stage at eight thirty. I was still

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<v Speaker 1>getting a drink. I was like, show might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit late because I've been places. I was at

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<v Speaker 1>Foxwood's Casino one time, gambling, just talking to these old ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>They go, we're here to see Mariah, but it's been

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<v Speaker 1>two hours and she's not on the stage yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were just playing slots because like, she's notoriously late,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's she's got it together for this tour and

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<v Speaker 1>she's really doing it and she looks great, she sounds great,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's on time. And that's my review. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>Queen of Christmas. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's nice. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do much.

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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did watch the movie Casino, which I never seen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I famously saw it in the movie theater with

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<v Speaker 2>my parents on a Friday night in a packed theater,

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<v Speaker 2>and it watching it now, I can't imagine what the

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<v Speaker 2>people around.

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<v Speaker 4>My parents were thinking. Well, how old were you a child?

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, let me see when this came out nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five. I was born in eighty seven, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was eight years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I was eight years old in the Casino Theater. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I I do like a joke about this, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I was like, how funny I saw Casino as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, and I'm like, this fucks me up for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way this did not fuck me up.

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<v Speaker 2>There is so much blood violence, cutting off fingers, stabbings,

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<v Speaker 2>bearing people alive after beating them to like as they're

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<v Speaker 2>like you see them breathing as sand is covering their body, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Bodies was the was were any memories like flooding back

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<v Speaker 1>from like, oh yeah, I remember watching this when I

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<v Speaker 1>was eight, Like, well, I do a bit about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do reference like you know, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>gets buried alive, and so I had a distant memory

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<v Speaker 1>of that and like people coming out of trunks, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like I do remember like trunks

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<v Speaker 1>opening up.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Sharon Stone, She's like a horrific drug addict.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it like so much death, destruction, mobs.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really bloody, it's really wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also famously did take my niece and nephe

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<v Speaker 2>used to see Keanu in the movie Theater, which did have.

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<v Speaker 1>But the tone of that is a lot more goofy,

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<v Speaker 1>like even though there's some violence, it's like goofy, like

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<v Speaker 1>Casino is like do people do this? Do people bury

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<v Speaker 1>each other alive? Like I don't know, I could see

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<v Speaker 1>that being really really I'm trying to think, like my

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<v Speaker 1>parents were really so strict, like we didn't go out

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<v Speaker 1>to movies that much as a family because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like taking eight people to the movies is untenable. But

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<v Speaker 1>I remember just like seeing Ghost in the theater with

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and I was probably twelve, but still like

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<v Speaker 1>during the pottery scene, she was like, close your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>but are they just doing pottery or are they Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like sexual and like I think she was

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<v Speaker 1>like but she was like kidding, But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even remember a time that I went to a

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<v Speaker 1>movie with my parents where I was like, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake because we barely went to go see anything. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we went every week, that was our thing, but they

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<v Speaker 1>always took me to fuck up stuff, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>always so packed. Yeah, I think this was the first

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<v Speaker 1>show because we also went to the cheap movie theater

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<v Speaker 1>where it was a little delay movies like they'd been

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<v Speaker 1>out for a few months. Already and so but we

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<v Speaker 1>wentever we and maybe it was because it was opening

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<v Speaker 1>night at that theater, like it what every seat was filled,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was being like I just like felt self

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<v Speaker 1>conscious because also like they would bring cans, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like opening a can in a packed theater is

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<v Speaker 1>a sound that haunts me. Oh I used to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to go like ichw and like try

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<v Speaker 1>to like make a noise while you're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we Well, yeah, my dad didn't give a shit,

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<v Speaker 2>so he just opened it.

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<v Speaker 1>He saw nothing wrong all the like a warm gingeral

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<v Speaker 1>burped went.

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<v Speaker 2>But that they weren't at all like we should get

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<v Speaker 2>I might even ask them this on Thanksgiving, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Their point of view.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if it's because they had such like

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<v Speaker 2>wild upbringings in a way, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean for bringing you or for bringing in the sodas

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Not leaving once. Like there's so much blood shooting people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stabbings, like you would think you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get out of here, I just or let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it later and be like this is crazy. There

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<v Speaker 2>was just never no conversation about any of it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not even the craziest movie I watched. I had no

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<v Speaker 2>supervision at all in any capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think also because like your sister's older, Like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they just kind of like forgot how old you

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<v Speaker 1>were most of the time. Like I don't know, maybe

0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.960
<v Speaker 1>they just were like, she's fine. I don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I you should ask them about it at Thanksgiving. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear the report back. I mean, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>pulp Fiction in the theater with my friend at too

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<v Speaker 1>young of an age, I think. But that was my

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<v Speaker 1>own doing my parents.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but did you But that movie is so fucking good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was in eighth grade and I had like

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<v Speaker 1>never seen somebody like get eighth grade is fine, eighth

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<v Speaker 1>grade hire high. I was traumatized by it. Like just

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<v Speaker 1>like the gimp and all that stuff happening. Say, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it is it gamp or simp. We've

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<v Speaker 1>had this conversation before many a time, But that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a limp, you know, like it sounds different, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is bring out the gimp. The GIMP's

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping casey am, I right here, you're the cinephile.

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<v Speaker 2>It just sounds like a slur, you know, what I

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<v Speaker 2>mean to me, I'm like, what the fuck did you

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<v Speaker 2>just say to me?

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<v Speaker 4>Like it doesn't sound polite.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the other thing is that we used to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the like wiry like thread that you use

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<v Speaker 1>to make bracelets at camp that's like plasticky. We called

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<v Speaker 1>that gimp.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm on, Oh, Urban Dictionary actually has pulp fiction

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<v Speaker 2>in it.

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<v Speaker 1>One.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a derogatory term for someone that is disabled

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<v Speaker 2>and has a medical problem that resents results in physical impairments.

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<v Speaker 1>So you not make that up? You did make that up? No?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, you all looked at me like I was nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it just seems like a slur. Not, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it does, but like I also know it as this

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<v Speaker 1>like plastic thread, which by the way, has its own

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<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia page. I'm chatting it to you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's or it's an insult implying that someone's incompetent, stupid,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, or to imply someone's uncool.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I would use that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then three a sex slave or submissive, usually male,

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<v Speaker 2>as popularized.

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<v Speaker 4>By the Yew pulp fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like then the example is, look at that

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<v Speaker 2>gimp in the wheelchair, and it's like I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we got to come up with a different name for

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<v Speaker 2>a submissive sex slave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it can't be so close to something that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a slur, basically not.

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<v Speaker 4>Close the exact same word.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I know, but like.

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<v Speaker 2>It just has the I mean, Quentin Tarantino doesn't. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me do simp Urban Dictionary. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Simp is like somebody who's like kissing your ass, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're simping for someone, right, Like, aren't you like if

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<v Speaker 1>I simp for you for like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why I thought it meant that. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>means a man who puts the hose before the bros. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's because I thought, like simp is like a

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<v Speaker 2>cook and so that's why I thought it was in

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<v Speaker 2>the sexual of submissives. I thought it was all a thing,

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess it's all different. Well, let me see

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<v Speaker 2>these necklaces you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like this like the it's like at summer camp

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<v Speaker 1>we would make like if you look online, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you could see a gimp key chain or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's just it's wild.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just oh, I've never seen how is it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty thread?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess They also call it lanyard or something like.

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up calling it lanyard. Lanyard.

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<v Speaker 1>We call it gimp. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, for us, it was like lanyard. Yeah. We

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<v Speaker 2>also someone made us fusion beads, a sign that says

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<v Speaker 2>done done. I loved fusion beads. Is that what they

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<v Speaker 2>were called? Those were like my fucking favorite thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you iron and make them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, into cool shapes and like a horror. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>fucking love them, I really want to. I actually got

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<v Speaker 2>my friend had surgery and so she had to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in and I got her a big per Oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>pearler bead too, Like got.

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<v Speaker 1>That, oh pearler bead.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got her a bunch because I thought she

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<v Speaker 2>could do it in the home.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this crafting section of the of the pod has

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<v Speaker 1>really popped.

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<v Speaker 2>Off, I mean unhinged, an unhinged intro for sure. We

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<v Speaker 2>also did go to a fun party. The food was delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I got kind of the last of

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<v Speaker 1>the vegetarian food and I was like waiting for there

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<v Speaker 1>to be another tray of it, but I was late,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's my own damn fault. But the food was

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<v Speaker 1>really good. And then there was assorted donuts for dessert

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<v Speaker 1>and which were fine.

0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nothing blew me away. I've had better donuts in

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<v Speaker 2>our neighborhood. Constantly. Sorry, sorry to slam this millionaire's house

0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.440
<v Speaker 2>that we were at, but I'm saying yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fun. It was a fun party. Saw

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<v Speaker 1>some old faces, some new faces. I met a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of famous face. It was like everyone was kind of famous.

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<v Speaker 1>I met this famous YouTuber who I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked on the Streamy Awards when you were the

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<v Speaker 1>host and I wrote that song you had to sing

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, oh my god, totally like it

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<v Speaker 1>was so crazy. I was like I can't believe. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like I never met her like on that, Like I

0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.000
<v Speaker 1>was in the room when she was rehearsing it. But

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<v Speaker 1>they were never like here's the person who wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>good as Hell parody song that you did. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it is wild there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you could just be really famous. And I

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<v Speaker 2>mean this isn't a new concept. It's just very niche.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more niche now the monoculture is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Well there were people that were like tagged

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<v Speaker 1>and photos the next day that I had, like seen

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<v Speaker 1>at the party and was like, who is that? And

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<v Speaker 1>then you click and it's like they have half a

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<v Speaker 1>million followers because they're huge on TikTok or something. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know who everybody is. Well, this is the

0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.280
<v Speaker 1>thing because I feel like Taylor is so monoculture. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, who cares about it? At my stand

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.960
<v Speaker 1>up shows and people do not clap. There's like six

0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.240
<v Speaker 1>people will clap or four people. No. I was telling

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Liz about some Travis and Taylor stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>you've truly invaded my brain because I used to be

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't care person and no, I'm like, I

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know, is it real? You know? And and she

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I didn't know any of this. I go,

0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you didn't see the kiss? Like I was like, I

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:15.160
<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe she didn't know, like any of it. Like

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I was the you and the conversation and it was

0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:22.439
<v Speaker 1>really funny. But yeah, there is no monoculture anymore. Everybody is.

0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're an example of it. We're a podcast

0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.640
<v Speaker 1>about a very specific television show that you can listen to,

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 1>though some people don't even watch the show and listen

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to us. But you know, everybody's peeling off to their

0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 1>exact You can get something in your exact interest anywhere

0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because now that I don't have Instagram, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>like on TikTok and I'm like, who is this woman?

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And why am I listening to her? She needs to

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<v Speaker 1>get away from me. Actually, wait, I have one more

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:52.399
<v Speaker 1>thing before we start. We are on tour, Babies. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a few more shows left in December, and we

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<v Speaker 1>really want to see you guys there. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Sacramento on December thirteenth. We're going to be

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>in New York City at City Winery on the sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>and a second show. Does still have tickets available to

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<v Speaker 1>the nine o'clock show. Let's pack that show out so

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just as fun as the sold out six

0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.560
<v Speaker 1>pm show, guys. And then Philly, we'll see your little

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.440
<v Speaker 1>butts on the seventeenth. And then in the new year,

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<v Speaker 1>we're kicking off in Seattle at the Wet City Comedy

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<v Speaker 1>Festival on January seventh. Lisa will be there on the sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can buy passes for the whole festival,

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking too long and we must start. So

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<v Speaker 2>get excited, get into episode, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Start a gimp bracelet, and get ready for another great

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<v Speaker 1>episode of podcasting. Okay, I am so excited to do

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode. It's surveillance. It's season three, episode eighteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa kept going, you know, it's the one with Emily Deschanel,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, she's a cello player. But this

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<v Speaker 1>one had truly left my mind, Like little bits and

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<v Speaker 1>bobs of it were like I've seen this, I've seen this,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is not a one that I've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of times. And so I got the thrill of

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<v Speaker 1>like it feeling like a new episode to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that is very thrilling, but also through this

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<v Speaker 2>I did some digging and the dis Chanel's are nepos.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm talking about it. Oh I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I knew they were. Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I also thought that, like Zoe was so much more

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<v Speaker 2>famous and successful, but Emily got Bones in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and five, Like they've both really been in this. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Zoe is more like famous, but they're both very successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I'll just get into it now. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>stars Emily des Chanell. She's the sister of Zoe Deschanell.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the lead actor from Bones, which I love to say,

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<v Speaker 1>like that shout out to Greg Johnson who does a

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<v Speaker 1>great joke about how the voiceover for that show was

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<v Speaker 1>always like next up on Bones. They are classic nepo.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of always think when they're siblings that get famous,

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<v Speaker 1>they're nepos. Like what are the chances of both of

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<v Speaker 1>you being so successful? I mean, I don't know. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Kimberly Williams and Ashley Williams. They both got

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<v Speaker 1>into it kind of like not being nepos, but like.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, what Mari, the Blondes, the Fannings are they nepos.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. The

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<v Speaker 1>Fannings feel like they got to come from something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe that's just me like profiling white blonde people.

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<v Speaker 4>But oh no, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Elle Fannings considered a NEPO because her sister is Dakota,

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<v Speaker 2>but oh okay, Dakota.

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<v Speaker 1>Busted in and then Elle followed. I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's just like I just feel like Rooney and Kate

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<v Speaker 1>Mara like all these different the I feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the the Nyllen Halls, like est of us is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like all kinds of people. Anyway, So their dad, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know why their nepos, their mom was

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<v Speaker 1>an actor and their dad is a cinematographer and like

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<v Speaker 1>like a long dp cinematic yeah career, like yeah in

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<v Speaker 1>there really killing it. Yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's one of the jobs where if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in the industry, you might not even understand

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<v Speaker 2>or know like how vital it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I don't think I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean, I think cinematographers are like the most

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<v Speaker 1>important person kind of which I've only realized from like

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<v Speaker 1>being like a little closer to the biz.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, see.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought it when I first heard of what

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<v Speaker 2>it's because I remember my friend dated someone in high

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<v Speaker 2>school who I hated, who wanted to be a cinematographer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's not even a real job. The director

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<v Speaker 2>does it. I'm like, you're an idiot. He's like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>an idiot, and I was the idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you see cinematographers and dps in action, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they're so important.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like mass important.

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<v Speaker 2>They make the movies look beautiful and set up the

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<v Speaker 2>shop in a way that I thought the director got

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<v Speaker 2>all the credit for, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is the collaboration. I think all the good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is like when dps and cinematographers and directors have

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<v Speaker 1>worked together before and like have a rapport, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>all the good shit you see. But you're right, like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't name other cinematographers, like even though there's they're

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<v Speaker 1>so important.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I worked with one on King of Staten Island.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so important and he made such an impact

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<v Speaker 2>on me. Could not remember his name for the life

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<v Speaker 2>of me. He has an oscar he did there will

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<v Speaker 2>be blood. I'm like the most important man my club.

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<v Speaker 2>So even but on survival the woman who is the DP. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what I was impressed with was the.

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<v Speaker 1>Attention to detail, Like there would be one thing of

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<v Speaker 1>tinsel hanging from the ceiling and she's like, rip off

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>that one piece of tinsel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's at fucking my shot and it'd be like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck, Like I don't know it was, It's just impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they're nepos and I just learned that today humiliating.

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<v Speaker 4>We should have known, we shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I feel like I always knew that they

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<v Speaker 1>were netpos. And Zoe is obviously a singer, actor, whatever,

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and as mayor is now married to one of the

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>property brothers. Emily is married to an actor from It's

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<v Speaker 1>Always Sonny in Philadelphia named David Hornsby, so their children

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to be neppos. And she seems like she

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<v Speaker 1>has a more chill vibe than Zoe, But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck do I know? She also went to

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<v Speaker 1>all the two of the very fancy private schools that

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<v Speaker 1>are here in LA so you know, they were probably

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<v Speaker 1>always knew they were going to be in this biz.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's omen Salter always says. She goes, well, my

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<v Speaker 2>children are going to be nepos. So I have to

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<v Speaker 2>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I guess my kids are comedy nepos. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's going to do anything for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But we open on this episode with Emily d Chanelle

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<v Speaker 1>making out with a man and older movies and TV

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<v Speaker 1>from like a little I feel like we're moving away

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<v Speaker 1>from like loud, sloppy kissing noises in movies and television

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>because my miss Offonio really hates that. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>watch old stuff and you see people making out in

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<v Speaker 1>old movies, always such loud slapping noises. But anyway, she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to come up, and he's like, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>an early morning and after last night, I bet ar rest.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they had a fuck vest last night. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>He kisses her hand, but her hair is covering it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it does look like he's just kissing a chunk

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<v Speaker 1>of her hair. And she's entering the apartment now, and she,

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<v Speaker 1>like so many of us, just leaves the door open

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<v Speaker 1>right behind her for a second while she drops her keys,

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<v Speaker 1>and a man rushes in from behind her and attacks her,

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<v Speaker 1>hits her, knocks her out, then pulls out a knife

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<v Speaker 1>cuts a huge chunk of her hair, her recently kissed

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<v Speaker 1>hair off and done done. You know, not good. We

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>cut to the crime scene. Evidence numbers are on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>there's blood on the carpet. We find out that this

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<v Speaker 1>girl's name is Cassie Jermaine. She's a cellist with the

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan Symphony. Her boyfriend dropped her off after a date

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<v Speaker 1>and then a purp jumped her, tore her dress. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like rape, but there were no witnesses. She's in

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the bedroom and according to this cop, the guide did

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>a number on her. So Benson is stable rushed back

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<v Speaker 1>to the bedroom to talk to her. Cassie's telling them

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<v Speaker 1>what's up while an EMT examines her. She's like, look,

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I blacked out. When I woke up, I was bleeding.

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<v Speaker 1>He shredded my clothes, he cut my hair. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say anything. And then the EMT goes, mind if I

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>show them. He doesn't even really wait for her to answer,

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and just like opens up the blanket that's around her

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>shoulders and we see that she has the word horror

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>written in bloody caps across her chest. So we've seen

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>branding before on this show. This might I don't know

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>when they first started. But this is an early season,

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>so they do love to do this and this, uh,

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, send messages on people's skin. Well, what city

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:34.959
<v Speaker 1>were we in?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we were in Toronto, right where the actress

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<v Speaker 2>from the episode Zebras who had Guilty written was in

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<v Speaker 2>the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so great. And in Toronto we met the

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>sister of the guy who plays the foreman in Beef.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yes, the guy what it was, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who punches Olivia and the face while she's dressed

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<v Speaker 1>as a Russian cleaner. So was Guilty in Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, we met her in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, since we are just mentioning to our stuff, I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to give a shout out Craig's Cookies in Toronto,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever gave us the Nibs Cookies changed my life, Killer

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Killer and Cleveland Susan Suzin l Chocolate tears, chocolate covered

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<v Speaker 2>Friedo's one of the best things. Kara and I both

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<v Speaker 2>ate to the point where I was about to say

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<v Speaker 2>it out loud, and then Kara goes, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is the best thing I've ever eaten, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I was just the.

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<v Speaker 1>Best, say, the chocolate covered FreeDOS were. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the best thing I've like ever put in

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth, just salty, sweet, crunchy all together. And many

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>people have written me telling me that Trader Joe's, like

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>chocolate clusters or something like that, or crunchy clusters might

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>give me the same satisfaction, So I will be looking

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<v Speaker 1>out for those. I'm a Trader Joe's nut and I've

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.479
<v Speaker 1>never seen those, so I hope they're not like foreign

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<v Speaker 1>to California. No, but I've seen online, like you know,

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>people were really into like some fried pickle hotgh dog

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>thing and it kept selling out, Like when Trader Joe's

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.959
<v Speaker 1>has a new fun item, or those peppermint cones, like

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like you have to get there at Monday

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>at nine am or you're at a luck, So that

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>might be one of the popular items that peppermint jojo.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a peppermint jojo. Oh my god, those go quick.

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<v Speaker 2>If you find one, let me try one because I

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<v Speaker 2>love peppermint.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wait, so this it's expensive.

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>But at Sip and Snack, we live by a bougie bodega.

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<v Speaker 4>They have like McSweeney mcsworley's.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, both are wrong, but they have a

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>pint of ice cream that's twelve dollars, which is a lot.

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>But I bought the peppermint stick flavor ones and it's

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 2>paid ice cream.

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 1>It was to die for. No, you don't do that

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>one day ice cream is what we had on parents

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>weekend at camp. When parents come show weekend, there's peppermint

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>stick ice cream. That's like the only time you get

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>it the whole summer, and it's like my favorite ice

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>cream and you just don't find it in a lot

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of places. Well, it's right near our house. It's just Atnately.

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Twelve dollars. Well, I'm gonna treat myself one of these.

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>But when I dug in I understood the price. I

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>would say that I think it's overpriced, but I was like,

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>this is delicious. Everything at Sip and Snack is wild.

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like you go in there being like I'll just

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>grab a candy bar and it's like cacao nibs. Like

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it's very but whatever. If you live in Los Angeles,

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>go there. It's really cute. If you're looking for fancy snacks.

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I've been talking about the chocolate covered Britos to everyone.

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I can get it face to face, and everyone always

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>asks milk or dark chocolate, and I go, they asked

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>us what we liked, and we said milk, and then

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>everyone looks at me with disgust, and I'm like, fuck you.

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm done pretending dark chocolate is good. It's bitter.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>If I want something bitter, I'll fucking eat Celery, Like,

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>get the fuck away from me.

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 4>I want milk chocolate.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's so good and it's so Everybody

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>acting like milk chocolate has not raised us is crazy.

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>It's so good sweet. I just can't do it. Then

0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 2>don't eat candy, you fucking bunch.

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I love sweet. Look at Casey, Casey loves dark. What

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>do you like?

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 4>Do you like dark chocolate? What are you eating?

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Casey?

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 5>I am milk chocolate all the way. I don't know

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 5>when dark chocolate took over the universe. It's really a

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 5>pandemic and I hate it.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm all. I'm milk chocolate all the way. Yeah, thank

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you for speaking out and speaking up and being on

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the right side of chocolate history with us, because yeah, I.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Mean, like whatever, I understand if you are being health

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>conscious and you're trying to limit your sweets, and you go,

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I just have a little dark chocolate to feed, my feed,

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 2>my feed the beast at that.

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Sure, sure, but be honest, you don't like.

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>But to act like, to act like milk chocolate is disgusting,

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>is so crazy to me. I think it's so good.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>And I hope we hate our chocolate over here. We

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of UK listeners. I know you hate

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>all of our chocolate over here anyway, but look, this

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>is what we were raised on and this is what

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>we eat, and I love it. That chocolate from that

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Chocolates here in Cleveland was delicious. We ate chocolate covered oreos.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>We were eating all the chocolate covered stuff they gave

0:32:58.200 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>us and it was so freaking good.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kara, but you flew back home and left me

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>with the box of chocolates that I then continue.

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 4>To eat the whole week.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was I was supposed to be a host gift,

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>like I was gonna with my friend. I was like

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>give it to our friends.

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, I'm staying, do you want some candy?

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 2>And then I had probably four to five chocolates today.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>It was just so good. A little bit of dark chocolate.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess on like a chocolate covered strawberry, maybe I

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>can do, but like, I'm really just not It's I'm

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>over like I don't like it, the dark chocolate. It's

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>not for me. But anyway, I'm a strawberry that is, sir.

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>In some situations, I'll do it, but it's not like

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm milk. I'm a milk girl. So anyway, Benson rides

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>along with Cassie to the hospital while Stabler chills at

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the crime scene and at CSU tech is like, I

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>got something. There's a smash lamp on the ground that

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>happened during the struggle, but the tech has found a

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>tiny hidden camera inside of it dunk Dunn, who is

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>bugging this woman's house. Stabler goes, oh, so somebody could

0:33:58.160 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>have watched the whole attack, and the guy goes, no,

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>they still are. The camera is live and we see

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the POV of the video and Stabler in the tech

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>are in black and white like staring into the lens

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's when we hit the credits. So top of

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Act one, Munch is now at the apartment with Teru

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>aka Morales aka friend of our Podge, Old de la

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Fuente and he's got a fancy machine that is trying

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to detect if there are other cameras in the place.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>And he picks something up on the machine and finds

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that there's another camera inside the smoke detector, and that

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>one was aimed right towards the bed, and Munch is like,

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I've got hangnails bigger than that thing, and I don't

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 1>like hearing that. Finn is there and he and the

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>CSU guy just found another one. So that's a total

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>of four. So this is a high tech peeping tom.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>They say, Okay, Kara, you're gonna be mad at me.

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I did tell you something disgusting that happened, oh in Pittsburgh,

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and you obviously reminded me.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 2>You said hang nail, and I should I know it?

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Should I tell Casey?

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 4>You have to.

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Lovely people came to my stand up show. They

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>came to the podcast as well. I might get a

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 2>message from Pittsburgh, but I think, you know, basically after

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the show, someone decided through crowd work it came up.

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>But basically he holds part.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>He holds a fingernail behind his ear, and it's his

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 2>backup fingernail because he likes to pick at his nails,

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 2>and then when he doesn't have any nails left, he

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.479
<v Speaker 2>always has a nail waiting for him behind his ear,

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and he takes He took out the nail from behind

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>his ear and showed me the loose fingernail and then

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>put it. I keep gagging. I'm sorry, this is this

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 2>is probably bad for anyone listening for you on the pony.

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 4>And then he put the nail back in his ear

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 4>for comfort. So that's that.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Are we talking like the clipping of when you just

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>clip a nail like the little crescent moon?

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay? Yeah, God, do you have a comment, Casey?

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 5>No, I mean we're recording this on Halloween, and that

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 5>really felt like a horror story.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Bookiest thing you're gonna hear, spookiest thing you're gonna hear

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>this Halloween, that's for sure.

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:13.720
<v Speaker 4>And it's fine.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 2>We all have deep, dark secrets. But to show me

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>your comfort nail you hide behind your ear after I'm

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, feeling good after a nice fun show was

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 2>hard and I did kick him out. I go, you

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 2>need to leave, I go. Our time is done here

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>and you need to get out of here. But they

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 2>were great, you know who they were with? They were

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>with the espresso martini guy. I think, unless I'm mixing

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 2>it up, but I feel like we love him, and

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>he was.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>With with our friends. I think, I think I'm not

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>fucking it up.

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you regret hearing that, Casey,

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 2>or if anyone had to listen to my gag noises

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast, but I have a really sensitive gag reflux.

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I've poked on a dick, like things happen. Oh god, wow,

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 2>it was just bud light strawberry.

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>He's covering his eyes. He's like, oh no, it was

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>just bud light Strawberina. Oh no, Okay, back to the episode.

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go to like a chunky puke on the dick.

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>It was just you know, Strawberita. I gotta get to

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a harvest festival and remember a dick being puked on

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.720
<v Speaker 1>with bright red fruit punch for the next couple hours.

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So this they're saying that the receiver for this these

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>cameras is one hundred and fifty to three hundred yards

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>is the range. I don't understand yards, Like people are

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>always like, ah, a couple hundred yards. I don't really

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.760
<v Speaker 1>know what that means. This is four hundred and fifty

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>to nine hundred feet, and nine hundred feet is like

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>a quarter of a mile, so that's like about like yards.

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Confuse me too much, Like a quarter of a mile

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>is basically like the radius, the max radius, and that's

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>like that seems kind of close, but in New York City,

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that's like thousands and thousands of residences and like offices,

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>which Munch points out. So at the hospital now, now,

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Cassie's wrapping up her exam when Olivia comes in, and

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Cassie's like, any news on the rape kit, and Benson's like,

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 1>no fluids or lacerations, but Benson said, that's not unusual.

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>And She's like, she just wants to know if she

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 1>was raped or not. And Benson's like, we just don't

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>know for sure yet. The haircutting, the clothes tearing, the

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>writing on the body does prove it is a sexually

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>motivated assault. Can you think of any enemies you have?

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And she's like no, Benson's like his voice, smell, shoes, anything.

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>She's like, it all happened too fast, you know, she

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>was knocked out within seconds, so she doesn't get anything.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Nobody else has keys to her apartment, she said, and

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Benson breaks the news about the hidden cameras, and she's

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>obviously understandably freaked out and is like how long and

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>like how long have they been there? She's like, we

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Could this be the same guy. It could

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>be like the person that planted the cameras could be

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the person that attacked you. Benson promises that we've swept

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the apartment, the cameras are gone, and Cassie's like, where's

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend? He's outside waiting to take her home, and

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 1>she's like, it'll never be home again, which you know,

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I always think about that on these shows when people

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>get like a they did an episode of this with

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that blonde actress I can't remember. I don't know her name,

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>but where she is attacked in her home and what

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it is like to go back to.

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 4>Is it the one with Michael J. Fox's wife?

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>No different one but Tracy polland those are early ones,

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>and I do love those episodes because I think those

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>really really handle like the like trauma really well and

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>like what like how different people respond afterwards. But this

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>one was like a more recent episode. It's like this

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>girl with blonde hair. I think it might be called

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Wonderland or something like that that's coming out of nowhere.

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>But she gets attacked in her home and then she

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>comes back to it, it's torn apart from the police,

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it's covered in like black fingerprint powder. She has to

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>get her locks changed. It's just like kind of the

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>reality of like what happens. You don't just like go

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>home and go back to bed after you leave the hospital,

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>after you know, you file a report. So it's just

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, interesting, you.

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Know what else just hit me?

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if we're gonna get a bunch of dms

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 2>from people being like I keep a fingernail behind my ear,

0:39:59.200 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 2>how Darius?

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 1>So no, no, no, if you do that, you need to

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>not write us. We can't hear about it. I can't

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>hear about it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not I'm

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>sure I do something that grosses you out and we're

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>just not going to talk about it. So in the

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>hospital waiting room, Stabler is questioning the boyfriend and he's

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>immediately like, you don't think me the boyfriend, the one

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>most statistically likely to attack my partner attacked my partner,

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>do you? And he's like, don't forget whoever had those

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>cameras was spying on me too, and you know he's

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>like the only person she had problems with was her conductor,

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Robert Prescott. He's been after her since she joined the

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>symphony six months ago. She says she said him straight,

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but he's like, I don't buy it. This conductor guy

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.919
<v Speaker 1>does not take no for an answer. He goes ask

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Valerie Baxter. She's the violinist he was involved with last season.

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Rumor is he was abusive. A month after she left,

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>he hired Cassie, turned her into his little pet project,

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>set her up in Valerie's old apartment. He owns the apartment,

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>so that's a huge done done h. Reagan is talking

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to Benson and he can't believe this guy, like, maybe

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't sexually assault the woman since the attack was so rageful,

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, well, maybe he didn't have a chance.

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>The police got there five minutes after this alarm was

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 1>triggered because she never entered in her code. The boyfriend

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>was in a cab. He's alibied it wasn't him, And

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>then they're talking to Cragan telling him all the details

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that they learned, but it's confusing.

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Like how did the boyfriend leave within a few seconds

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 2>and miss the person coming in, Like the trade off

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>was so fast that person could have been waiting in

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the hallway for hours, Yeah, like hidden somewhere else, you know,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 2>just like waiting for her to come home, you know.

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>So they're talking to Kragan, giving him all the details

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.240
<v Speaker 2>they learned about from the boyfriend about Prescott the Maestro,

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's possible that he planted the cameras. Munch suggests, oh,

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe he got tired of being a couch potato or

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Finn says maybe he hired someone to spice up the show.

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So Benson points out, either way, the point was to

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>humiliate her, cutting her hair, writing a horror on her body.

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 1>Like, So they want to talk to Prescott, obviously, but

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>his secretary said he's upstate looking at investment properties. And

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the lab tracked the cameras to a place called Quark International,

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 1>which is a spy shop, and Live just tracked down

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Valerie at the New York School of Music. So now

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 1>they're talking to Valerie, and she's telling Benson and Stabler

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that Prescott told her she had a gift. She seems

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>like a little bit like meek Valerie, She's like a

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit nervous talking to them and you know she's

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a violinist and putting her violin away and stuff, and

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>she's like, yeah, Prescott told me I had a gift

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and we'd work late into the night together and he

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 1>would drill me until my fingers bled. But it worked.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I was feeling the music on a deeper level than

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I ever thought it possible. And then she says things

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 1>got sexual about a month into the private lessons. He

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 1>made her feel special and that she could be a

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>concert violinist, and he became abusive only after she said

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>she wanted to bounce. So this guy's very controlling. One night,

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>when he was asleep, she found she went to go

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 1>get a blanket out of a cabinet and she found

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a video camera aimed through a hole in the wall,

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and there was a row of tapes with women's names

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>on them. And she was like, that's when I realized

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I was just another chapter in his tape collection. And

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:08.240
<v Speaker 1>when she tried to end it with him, he turned vicious.

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>He berated and threatened her, and she's like, I couldn't

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>pick up my violin without shaking. So now Munch and

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Finn are at the spy shop and I'm sorry but

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.439
<v Speaker 1>this just reminds me of my friend who I won't

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>get into this too much, but Lis, I think you

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>know the story. My friend was working for her brother

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and trying to help other people at the brother's business

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>get certified for this really bureaucratic government test. So she

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was taking the test, and she went to a spy

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>shop and bought a spy button for her shirt. And

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>she went in and I honestly think it's this shirt

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 1>this store, because she told me where it was. It's

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of near the Empire State Building and I think

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that's where this is. And she got this spy thing,

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and she was taping herself taking the test so that

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>she could help other people. And it's just one of

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 1>the funniest things. I can't get into too much detail

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>about it because they don't want anybody to get in trouble.

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>You can't go into detail, but I do want to

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>add she was doing good work because a lot of

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the people she was helping were English second language people. Yeah,

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and so the test was just unfair to people who

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>might not have a grasp on the language. So she

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just cheating for fun. She wanted to have exactly

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>exactly and the test was worded really really confusing. Even

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>her brother who's the boss, goes, I don't think I

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 1>could pass this test like it's so worded crazy, And

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>then for people that are like ESL, like it was

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 1>just impossible and they're all great at their jobs, they

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>just needed to like pass this test. So but didn't

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>you say that didn't get caught and it was a

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>funny punishment. She did get caught, and her only punishment

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is that she's not allowed to work in that industry anymore,

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>and that is not something she's ever wanted to do.

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So it was actually fine, But I just think it's

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>hilarious that they even were like monitoring it so closely.

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>But damn, Like, I wonder if people are just cheating

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 1>on the essay constantly. So now they're at the spy shop.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>They're talking to this nerd. He's showing them all his

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 1>sneaky little cams and recorders and he's like, yeah, since

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven, this stuff's been flying off the shelves

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>because we're what are we like, not even not even

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>six months from nine to eleven when this episode comes out,

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and they do mention it quite a few times, so

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.240
<v Speaker 1>he looks up the equipment from the apartment and he's like, WHOA,

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Like that's quite in order. That would have run you

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple thousand dollars worth of like spy equipment. And

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>so it was ordered online and it was charged to

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Herman Garfunkel in Queens, who they of course tracked down

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and he has been dead for years, so this is

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the case of stolen identity. The stuff was all delivered

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.439
<v Speaker 1>to a PO box at a You Mail It which

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>is near Cassie's apartment and near the conductor's penthouse, both

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>within range of the camera. Do conductors make a lot

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 1>of money? Like, I didn't know a conductor would have

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:52.240
<v Speaker 1>like not only a penthouse, but another apartment he rents

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>out and then investment opportunities upstate. Like my uncle's a

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>professional violinist and he has a nice house outside of Atlanta,

0:45:57.960 --> 0:45:59.800
<v Speaker 1>but like a New York City penthouse feels like And

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I know sectors would make more money.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I wrote conductor salary, but it's all trained conductors. So

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:10.959
<v Speaker 2>one second, Oh, it's how No, I think, Okay, maybe

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong. I think you have to come from family money.

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like you're in the arts, like I'm

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.760
<v Speaker 2>sure he has family money. The salary estimates for orchestra

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>musical conductor are only fifty to sixty nine k. You're

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 2>in LA and then to be an orchestra musician is

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 2>eleven to twenty seven per hour.

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And this is in La. Okay.

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 2>The comparably music conductor salary. This is from October twenty

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. The salaries of music conductors in the US

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 2>range from thirteen grand to three hundred and fifty one thousand,

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>with a median of sixty three thousand.

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Even if he's making three hundred and fifty thousand the top,

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 1>that's really not penthouse money in New York City.

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 4>No, I think he comes from money. I think it's

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 4>one of those jobs.

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like you'll meet someone that is on

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 2>a board of a chair and it's like you obviously

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>come from wealth, or you have a bout a bag.

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Okay, So anyway, that's caught my attention. So Craigan's like,

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>we need into that penthouse, and Cabot's there to be like, Babe,

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>we do not have enough for a warrant. And they're like,

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>what about Valerie being taped without her consent? And she

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy, and she's like,

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not really about the right to privacy, it's about

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>keeping the government out of our bedrooms. And the courts

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>are like really horny for that protection, but I don't.

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.839
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird that you'll just let like a spycam

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>into people's bedrooms. Anyway, Craigan argues that it's the same

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>as breaking and entering, and Cabot's like, no, he owns

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the apartment, he has certain rights to entry, so whatever

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.760
<v Speaker 1>he may have taped the attack, we need a reason

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to search his place. And Cabot's like, okay, but you

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 1>have to limit the warrant to the receiver or any

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>videos and equipment. It's like, why didn't you just say

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that to start? Like at first she's like there's no way,

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and then she's like, okay, you can do it. But

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.879
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, this man has a very lackluster penthouse. They're

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 1>in the bedroom and there's barely any furniture. They're searching

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>his bedroom and then live walks over to this huge

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 1>armor that has literally every single thing they're looking for,

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a camera aimed at the bed, tons of videotapes. They

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>start bagging them up up and Olivia's like, looks like

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>we have a long night ahead of us. Cuts to

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Benson and Stabler watching their tenth homemade porno from this conductor,

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and Benson goes, he really seems to favor that one

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>position there and it's really funny, and Sabler's like, at

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 1>least he's consistent. So Finn and Craigan and Munch bust

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 1>In and Finn goes, wait till you see this. They

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>all sit down to watch it, and done. Done. It

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:26.240
<v Speaker 1>is Cassie in his room. They're kissing there. She seems

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>very consensually hooking up with this man, seemingly and this

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:34.720
<v Speaker 1>was recorded last month, so she's obviously been keeping a secret,

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe out of fear or embarrassment, and the Maestro wants

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to let her know whose boss, So let's get him in.

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's get them in there. Craigan says, that's the end

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>of act one. So now Benson and Stabler have Cassie

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 1>in interrogation Wooden blinds not Cement and bars and they're like,

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>tell us the truth, like, what's up with you in Prescott?

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, he threatened to ruin my career, Like

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>she said, I met him eight months ago at the

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Castle's competition. When I won, he offered to bring me

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in New York City. Sex was not part of the deal.

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And she does have the exact same voice as her sister,

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Like when I was listening to her talk, I was like,

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you sound like Zoe Deschanel, Like they sound alike. And

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>she's like, he got me the best instructors. He introduced

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>me to all the right people. He set up my

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.240
<v Speaker 1>debut here in New York, and he was there whenever

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:18.919
<v Speaker 1>I needed him. And she's like, I guess I fell

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in love. So then one night she stopped by his

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 1>apartments to surprise him with a birthday gift, and he

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was in bed with another woman. So she told him

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it was over. She was quitting the orchestra. He flipped

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>out and said he invested too much in her. He

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 1>showed her the tape and he's like, hey, babe, you leave.

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I tell everyone in this business about like I'll just

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>show this to everyone. And it's like that would also

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>make you look crazy, like you know, like I don't

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>think you'll get much conductor work if everyone thinks you're

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>like secretly taping people that you're fucking and so she

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>threatened the police and he said, it's my word against yours,

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>go for it. And this was a little over a

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>month ago, and they're like, has he's threatened you since?

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, well, not exactly, but I've been getting

0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 1>phone calls and flowers every after every concert she gets home,

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>there's flowers at her door with a card that says, ah,

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:06.440
<v Speaker 1>my love me. And whenever she gets to her apartment,

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 1>the phone starts ringing and when she answers it, the

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:12.280
<v Speaker 1>person hangs up. So she thought it was Robert the conductor,

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to intimidate her, and it's like, girl, how do

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you think he knows when to call? And she finally

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>gets it. It's like, yeah, he's been watching you like

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>she never thought he would ever hurt her, And she

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>gives the name of the florists, and then Finn knocks

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to let them know that the Maestro has arrived with

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 1>his lawyer. And the maestro's obviously reminding me of the

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Seinfeld with the Maestro. I'm sure you as well. So

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 1>now we've got the Maestro in interrogation, but he's in

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>cement and bars, so you know different, you know, well,

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not he's not a victim she is. So he's

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>in Cement and Bars and his lawyer is the gorgeous

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Langan, mister MRSCA Hargatea aka Personal laundry spokesperson Peter Herman,

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.919
<v Speaker 1>and he is arguing that this is all private acts

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>between consenting adults, and Olivia's like, oh, did they consent?

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>And she and he goes of course, And they're like,

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 1>what about Valerie. She didn't consent to be taped, and

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, you guys didn't notice what a fragile

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>baby bird she is. She had visions at stardom. I

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>did everything I could to help her, but there was

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>only so much I could do with the material. And

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 1>then Stabler goes, well, you did every which way you could,

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>and Langan goes, watch it, detective, and the guy goes,

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I promise you a good time was had by all everyone.

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Everyone involved loved my NonStop missionary. So what about Cassie?

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 1>He goes, yeah, I enjoy working with her. She's very talented.

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, she lives in your apartment and what's

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 1>with the apartment. He's like, it's a tax right off

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:33.320
<v Speaker 1>for my loan out which I rent at a loss

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to visiting musicians and new hires. And I also have

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>two other apartments on the in the sixties, so on

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the Upper West Side? Are they loaded up with cameras too?

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 1>What about the flowers and the love notes? And he goes,

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what you're talking about. And he's like,

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't think me a creepy sex nut who tapes

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>every sexual move I make without my partner's consent could

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>be responsible for this attack. And he's producing her New

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 1>York debut on Friday. He's like, I'm gonna make her

0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a star. Why the fuck would I do that? Like,

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:02.879
<v Speaker 1>why would I mess with that? And they're like, oh,

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 1>because she rejected you and you don't like that, And

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>where were you when the attack happened And he goes,

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, I was with a woman.

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, they go, give us a name, and

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>he goes, you already have a name. It's on the

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>last tape, time coded and dated. And this guy's very

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 1>cringy and live looks like she wants to kill him.

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 1>And his name is Michael Nader. He actually passed away

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.839
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one. He was on Dynasty and all

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 1>my children, and I watched him on all my children

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>for years. His character's name was Dimitri. He had dark hair,

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>he looked different, but he was on all my children.

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 1>That voice, I remember it. He has a really like

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of this guy ose. So anyway, of course, this

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 1>is the moment Craigan busts in as usual to pull

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 1>one or both of the detectives out. He summons Elliot.

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>He's like Elliott out here, Craigan says. Munch and Finn

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>called from the concert hall there's been another attack. So

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>at the concert hall, Munch says, when they walked in,

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>they heard the scream from the lobby. They came back

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.319
<v Speaker 1>from the break and found a message for Cassie. Her

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 1>cello is lying on the ground. There's some flowers and

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a note in the strings that says die bitch. That

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>looks also like it's written in blood. Whose blood? Benson asks,

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and she looks confused. This isn't an attack though, This

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 1>is just like an incident, like no one is attacked.

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 1>But Craigan, you know, loves to bring the drama. So

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>back at the precinct, we've got Stabler, Daddy, Craigan and

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Huang and Benson is with Cassie. Sabler says, the florist

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>remembers the guy, but he never gave a name, he

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>paid cash. He was just a white guy, medium height,

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>medium build, blonde. Finn still thinks Prescott could have hired someone,

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and Huang's like, no, no, no, no, this is all personal

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:37.279
<v Speaker 1>like and they're like, the attack is so personal. There's

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 1>no way that anybody could have been a surrogate, he says,

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.319
<v Speaker 1>but we've eliminated the two men she's involved with, and

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Huang is like, well, what if it's in eroto manic.

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 1>He believes he's in a relationship that doesn't exist, and munchgoes,

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:52.720
<v Speaker 1>sounds like me and my four ex wives, but I'm bump,

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, he might not even be in the

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>orchestra or no Cassie at all, Like he could have

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>just been set off by a look a hello, anything

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:05.840
<v Speaker 1>that he just thinks is an affair. And Stabler says

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it reminds him of a case where a guy thought

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a newscaster was sending him secret signals during the broadcast,

0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and Fing goes, what happened as if it could have

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.279
<v Speaker 1>gone anywhere good, and he goes, no, he followed her

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>home and he shot her and when she told him

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to go away. I looked this up. I tried to

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>see if this was based on anything real, but I

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:26.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't find anything. So I don't know. And uh, like

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the case to have a newscaster you mean or yeah,

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.919
<v Speaker 1>but the case of somebody thinking a newscaster was yeah,

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the case of somebody thinking a newscaster was communicating with

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:39.479
<v Speaker 1>them and sending signals and then killing But I don't

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it could be real, but I'm sure that's I'm sure

0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 1>newscasters have gotten like stalked before, but I don't know

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 1>if this is. This actually happened in New York around

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one, which is what Elliot's alluding to.

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>So they said that this guy might not stop till

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>he kills her. So we got to find him, and

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>he's probably near the receiver that picked up the video signal.

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 1>But Warren slow going because it's for so many like,

0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, buildings and areas, focus on anybody that was

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:08.479
<v Speaker 1>in or out of her apartment between then and now.

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>He had to be there to plant the cameras, so

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 1>let's find out how he got in. So now we're

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>at the building talking to the super and the building,

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 1>he said, got a total security overhaul, security codes, alarms,

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 1>no one's getting in or out without permission from the tenant.

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, well, what about when there's maintenance, and

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, then I go and I wait in

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.479
<v Speaker 1>the apartment. If the tenant is going to be out,

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that's policy. So in the last month, he said, Casey

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 1>had one maintenance thing, which was like a clogged kitchen drain,

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and then there was a security tech that went there

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to install the new alarm system recently, or to check

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:41.400
<v Speaker 1>on the new alarm system. Excuse me. The guy was

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>up there for maybe an hour and he's like, what

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 1>do you mean. Maybe I thought it was policy that

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you stay there, and he's like, well, turned out I

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>had a little problem in the same time at another apartment.

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 1>But he gets the work order and the name of

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the tech is Ray Campbell. So now we're talking to

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a supervisor and he's like, oh, yes, it's nine to eleven.

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Security has been huge, Like I don't know, I don't

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:02.719
<v Speaker 1>know why nine to eleven. Everyone's like, now I need

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:06.320
<v Speaker 1>a spy camera in my bedroom, But that's what is happening.

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I had to hire new guys. Ray's one

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.200
<v Speaker 1>of my best guys. He's been here ten years. They're like, well,

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>what was wrong with Cassie's system. He's like, I don't remember.

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I probably serviced millions of people. But he looks up

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the work order and he goes, that's odd. This isn't

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:21.839
<v Speaker 1>in the system, this work order. And Ray was at

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a totally other location that day, a block away. So

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 1>they're like, uh, where's Ray. He's on a job. So

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 1>they go talk to Ray. This guy is another soap

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 1>opera guy. There's like so many, there's like four soap

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 1>opera people in this episode. This guy is played by

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Joseph Adams. He's a soap guy. And Stabler asks him

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.360
<v Speaker 1>about the job and he goes, yeah, I remember installing

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>the system there a couple months ago, but I haven't

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>been back since. And then he shows him the work

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:46.840
<v Speaker 1>order and he goes, yeah, that's my employee number, but

0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that's not my signature. And he goes, maybe it's the

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>same guy who stole the rest of my stuff. It

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:54.240
<v Speaker 1>turns out a month ago somebody broke into his truck,

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>got tools, a jacket and a hat, and like he

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't even think to check to see if the guy

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>took any paperwork, like who would want that? So this

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:07.240
<v Speaker 1>guy poses a security tech to gain access to Cassie's apartment.

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Only three addresses within the broadcast range of the cameras

0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 1>are serviced by that company. One is Cassis, which means

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the receiver's got to be in one of the other

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 1>two buildings. And I was like, that is kind of

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a strong like why does the receive I guess that

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>does make sense because like, how else would you have

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>access unless you But how does this guy know what

0:57:25.480 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 1>buildings are accessed by this company? I guess he took

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a ton of work orders. Anyway, the signatures don't match,

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 1>but Sabler also found a work order for an unauthorized

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>DSL line in the basement of one of the buildings.

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:38.919
<v Speaker 1>They're like, send Munch in fin over with a tech

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:41.560
<v Speaker 1>so over there. Finn is like, why don't we always

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:44.160
<v Speaker 1>get stuck with these glamorous gigs? And Munch is like

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it's our can do attitude, and Finn's like, I should

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 1>have just been a garbage man if I wanted to,

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like go through nasty basements. And Morales has got something.

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>He's like, there's a box with a DSL line and

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Munch goes, oh, like what connects my computer to the

0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>world Wide Web? And yeah, Munch has narc energy all

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the time. They find the receiver and Morales has to

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>explain to them basically what streaming is and they cannot

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 1>believe it, like it is two thousand and two, like

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 1>none of us had any idea, like what you could

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>just be like sending out video on the Internet that

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.560
<v Speaker 1>people could be watching in real time? Like what? So

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, Morales is like, welcome to the information age.

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 1>My name is not Tarru, like I'm a person. And

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>so back at the precinct, they're explaining that this guy

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 1>is putting the video out over the Internet, but not

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>for public consumption, like only one computer is hitting on it.

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>So they're like because Stabler are like how many hits?

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Like thinking that this is going out as some kind

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of like creepy you know, voyeur porn or something, but

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just going to this whoever is the doer's computer.

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 1>It's for his personal use, it seems, and the computer

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>belongs to a guy named Terry Willard. We're meeting a

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, We're going to a lot of locations.

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 1>This episode's twisty and turvy. They go to Terry Willard's

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 1>apartment and they make the landlady open the door, and

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>his apartment looks like pretty modern for like a weird computery, Like, man,

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I was expecting it to be creepier,

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>but then Finn like strong arms a door open, and

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 1>we find this guy's little stalker clubhouse room and there's

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 1>photos of Cassie everywhere Stalker City. Fens and finds a

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven college yearbook from Indiana University, so he's

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 1>been stalking her since then. And they're like, yeah, talk

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.640
<v Speaker 1>about your groupie from hell. Terry's her number one fan,

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.680
<v Speaker 1>which feels to me like a reference to misery, but

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe not. And then that's the end of act two.

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 1>So at the top of AC three, they're taking tons

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 1>of evidence out of this guy's apartment, computers, boxes of stuff,

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and the woman who let them in is like trying

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to defend them. She's like, he's a good man, he's

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 1>sweet and gentle, and then you know, finally, when they

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>talked to her a little bit more, she drops a

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:46.280
<v Speaker 1>bomb that this is her boyfriend and it's ever since

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving they've been boyfriend girlfriend, and then that was their

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 1>first date, like they were both in town and she

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:53.120
<v Speaker 1>invited him to like a diner, and you know that's

0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>when their relationship started. She says she's never been inside

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 1>his little stocker cave because it's his office. I have

0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>no need to go in there. And that's we hear

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that all the time. You know, Fritzel's wife never went

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:05.919
<v Speaker 1>down to his basement. That's his workshop, certainly not where

1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 1>he's keeping my daughter and a bunch of child prisoners.

1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:13.440
<v Speaker 1>They're like, did he ever mention Cassie And she's like, no,

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.480
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have any friends. He has too much work.

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.120
<v Speaker 1>He's a partner at an internet company in Soho that's

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:21.320
<v Speaker 1>really taking off called web Trends. So now we're at

1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 1>web Trends and we find out old Terry got laid

1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:26.240
<v Speaker 1>off a couple months earlier. He's not a partner because

1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:28.200
<v Speaker 1>he's not a people person. He's just a really great

1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.840
<v Speaker 1>website designer. But they had a dump ninety percent of

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:32.960
<v Speaker 1>their staff. When the sock tanked, like the whole place

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:35.320
<v Speaker 1>is empty. It's one of those like huge office floors

1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of like a startup where all the cubicles are empty

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, now we're almost bankrupt. They said Terry

1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:43.640
<v Speaker 1>went ballistic when they told him about his layoff. The

1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:47.760
<v Speaker 1>last few weeks, he'd seemed distracted and they were like, oh,

1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.040
<v Speaker 1>why he goes He probably heard the rumors, which of course,

1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, they've paid the humans and the nests, and

1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:56.320
<v Speaker 1>he goes. I would have kept him on, but his

1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:58.240
<v Speaker 1>work habits became erratic, Like I guess he would have

1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:00.000
<v Speaker 1>been in the top ten percent that didn't get fired,

1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:03.280
<v Speaker 1>but his work habits became erratic. He was missing days

1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:05.480
<v Speaker 1>of work, coming in all tired, like he'd been up

1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:08.000
<v Speaker 1>all night. So when they finally canned him, he just

1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:11.680
<v Speaker 1>like snapped. And so that's interesting. And now we're with

1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Morales looking at all of Terry's footage and it is

1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:19.240
<v Speaker 1>so creepy. He's been basically downloading silent footage of Cassie

1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:22.560
<v Speaker 1>doing her whole day. He's got cameras on her whole apartment,

1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and then he makes little DVDs of her day, like

1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 1>he cuts together and scores it with music, and he's

1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.520
<v Speaker 1>done twenty days of like you know, Cassie's life, like

1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:33.480
<v Speaker 1>just okay, here she wakes up and here's a little song.

1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:36.560
<v Speaker 1>While she's brushing her teeth and like, here's her having

1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:38.840
<v Speaker 1>sex with somebody. So they go to the day of

1:01:38.840 --> 1:01:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the attack, and unfortunately everything is off camera, like the

1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:45.240
<v Speaker 1>camera's not right in the entryway, and then the perp

1:01:45.320 --> 1:01:47.360
<v Speaker 1>shuts the door so there's no light, so they really

1:01:47.360 --> 1:01:50.400
<v Speaker 1>don't have anything. Then Moraless hands munch a bunch of

1:01:50.440 --> 1:01:52.360
<v Speaker 1>papers and goes, but you might be interested in this.

1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:56.520
<v Speaker 1>And it turns out that this like little script that's

1:01:56.520 --> 1:01:58.920
<v Speaker 1>in his hand is called the Legend of Cassie and Terry.

1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:02.760
<v Speaker 1>So this little freak fan fiction of his fake relationship

1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:06.080
<v Speaker 1>with Cassie. It's an online journal. It started four years

1:02:06.080 --> 1:02:09.960
<v Speaker 1>ago at Indiana University when he first heard her play

1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the cello. It follows her all over the world to competitions.

1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But then the story takes a turn when Terry goes

1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to prison for credit card fraud because he needed a

1:02:19.120 --> 1:02:21.040
<v Speaker 1>way to pay for all these trips. He's like following

1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a violinist do all around the world. If we learn

1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:26.160
<v Speaker 1>anything from Anton Krasnikoff, it's that you know, you line

1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:27.800
<v Speaker 1>up a lot of shows in this line of work,

1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and you're all over the world. So when Terry gets

1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:33.400
<v Speaker 1>out of jail, Cassie has graduated and moved away. He

1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:36.520
<v Speaker 1>goes online. He buys her social security number for forty

1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:39.520
<v Speaker 1>five dollars, uses it to trace her to the symphony,

1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but nothing in the journal ties him to the attack.

1:02:42.640 --> 1:02:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And his girlfriend hasn't seen him in two days, so

1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:47.760
<v Speaker 1>he probably knows we're on his trail and Munch reveals

1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.120
<v Speaker 1>but he's still in town. This guy has half a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen online aliases, and he goes to public computer cafes

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<v Speaker 1>and coffee shops and bookstores and stuff where they have

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<v Speaker 1>computers and internet, and he visits these sites and they're

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<v Speaker 1>tracking his movements, and if he stays online long enough,

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<v Speaker 1>we can track him. But I don't think that's how

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<v Speaker 1>it works with online, like you sign on and your

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<v Speaker 1>IP address is there. It's not the same as like

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<v Speaker 1>keep the caller on the line, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just telling Casey about this movie Black Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>I watched with Jared. It's like an old horror movie

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<v Speaker 1>from the late seventies, I think, And the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they would track phone numbers is everybody's phone was in

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<v Speaker 1>this massive room, like everybody's phone number, and you would

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep the guy on the line while a

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<v Speaker 1>guy just went around checking every single box to see

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<v Speaker 1>where the call was coming from. Like, they keep not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to get this guy because they can't get

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<v Speaker 1>to the boxes in time. Jared goes, when we were

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<v Speaker 1>watching it, he goes, wait till you see how they

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<v Speaker 1>track phone calls. So that was interesting for me having

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<v Speaker 1>watched this show. But I don't think that's how it works,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have to be online firs certain amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you sign on, you're on. There's the IP.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like, well, maybe we can flush this guy out.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell Benson and Saylord to bring Cassie in for a chat.

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<v Speaker 1>So they bring Cassie in. They show him the picture

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<v Speaker 1>of the guy and she's like, that's him and they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he followed you from college and he's obsessed with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I don't know this person. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen him. And Wang explains, well, he thinks you too

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<v Speaker 1>are in love, and having the cameras on you helped

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<v Speaker 1>further his delusion without risking rejection. And she's like, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know? And it's like, bitch, that's doctor George Wong.

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<v Speaker 1>He just like knows everything, so don't And he also

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<v Speaker 1>kept the whole journal, like we know everything. So she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>can we stop him? And they're like, we think we can,

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<v Speaker 1>but we need your help. He basically goes to this

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<v Speaker 1>I Love Cassie site that he made like two to

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<v Speaker 1>three times a day, and they want her to dedicate

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<v Speaker 1>her show to him, her big violin concert debut that

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<v Speaker 1>she has on Friday, talk about him in press interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>let him know how much he means to you. Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is sick, Like I feel like they could in

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<v Speaker 1>other ways, just I don't know. But it's like, hey, cello, lady,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good at acting, right, just pretend that this man

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<v Speaker 1>is your best friend and you need him to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. And she's like, but this guy is nuts,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, don't worry. We'll cover every entrance and

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<v Speaker 1>g him before he even gets near you. Trust us,

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<v Speaker 1>we are cops and we never fuck up l ol.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like, this is our best chance to get

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<v Speaker 1>him into a controlled situation and we just can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it without you. So now we cut to the concert hall.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's in place. Stabler's like in a tux with a

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<v Speaker 1>clear security piece in his ear like regular security. Morales

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<v Speaker 1>is behind the scenes with facial recognition software, and Munch

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<v Speaker 1>is like, I didn't know we could afford this, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Munch, you know how much the NYPD gets,

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<v Speaker 1>like a billion jillion dollars, So like you're the conspiracy guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you would know that, and moralesy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Sturday, I went to the Walgreens like prescription, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pickup like in the car, but all these cop cars

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<v Speaker 2>parked in the Walgreens parking lot to the side of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what's going on? And they were

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<v Speaker 2>all outside the car eating donuts like truly out of

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<v Speaker 2>a cartan.

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<v Speaker 4>They all had boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Of food on the on the on the roof of

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<v Speaker 1>their cars, their biggest two piece, and they were just

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<v Speaker 1>snack and I was like, oh my god, that's so funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's just cartoons of themselves. That's really good. So

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<v Speaker 1>Morales is explaining how the software works, like it scans

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<v Speaker 1>faces and compares it to Terry's profile, but it allows

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<v Speaker 1>for weight loss, weight gain, facial hair glasses because the

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<v Speaker 1>photo they have, if Terry is old, they get a

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<v Speaker 1>hit asle to man and a beard. They grab him.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy looks confused and then it's like oh, another hit,

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<v Speaker 1>and this guy, Terry looks like a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, so actually Morales is like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>set the threshold really low, so we would definitely get

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. So they're just like pulling random men aside,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cassie's backstage with her boyfriend An Benson, and she

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<v Speaker 1>is understandably freaking out, and they're like, don't worry, we

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<v Speaker 1>got you. We're gonna get him. Just think about the music,

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<v Speaker 1>not your stalker who attacked and possibly raped you, who's

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<v Speaker 1>just out in the audience maybe, And so she like

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<v Speaker 1>goes out and starts playing, and then they let the

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<v Speaker 1>first guy they grabbed go and Finn goes sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>the inconvenience, and I'm like, you know, the most polite

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<v Speaker 1>cops in the biz, you're just not going to get that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've never heard a cop say sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>So then an usher walks up to them and hands

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<v Speaker 1>them a box that he found outside Cassie's dressing room

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<v Speaker 1>that's addressed to her, and they open the box and

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<v Speaker 1>inside is a dead rat nasty. So Stabler gets a

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<v Speaker 1>call on the head piece that they got another hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cassie continues to play her boyfriend's in the front row.

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<v Speaker 1>I was even like going through points where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it the boyfriend? Like I know he had an alibi,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe he had like found out about her affair

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<v Speaker 1>with the Maestro and got like I was. My mind

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<v Speaker 1>was going a lot of different places. So they try

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the stalker out and he is making a

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<v Speaker 1>scene and like he's like, no, Cassie invited me. Cassie

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<v Speaker 1>invited me and keeps yelling that because he's obviously watching

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<v Speaker 1>all the press for her interviews for her debut where

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<v Speaker 1>she's going, Terry, hope to see you there. So also

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<v Speaker 1>Benson is in a hot little LBD and Stabler is

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<v Speaker 1>in a tux as they like haul this guy out.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the end of act three, top of AAC four.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still not positive where this is going, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get idea. In interrogation with Stoker, Terry played

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<v Speaker 1>by this guy's name Nate Mooney. He's also been on

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<v Speaker 1>It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but a lot of other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's worked a lot, like one episodes of like

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<v Speaker 1>every show you've ever heard of, and he's like, uh no,

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie rules, she's the best. There's no one like her.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard her playing in college one time and when

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<v Speaker 1>she looked at me and she smiled, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>knew from then on that we'd be together. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when men are like, why don't you smile,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is why, Like you smile at the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong freak and he's planning your honeymoon in his mind

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<v Speaker 1>and buying your social Security number online, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is why we're just frowning or we're at rest,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So they go, you sacrifice so much to

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<v Speaker 1>be with her, and he's like, it's not a sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>when you love someone, so you know this man is

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<v Speaker 1>has problems, you know, so it must have stung for

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<v Speaker 1>you to see her fucking another guy. Huh. And he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't her fault. He got her drunk and took

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of her. And it's like, but don't you see

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<v Speaker 1>her having sex with her boyfriend and the maestro, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know there's multiple And then Stabler and Craigan start

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<v Speaker 1>tag teaming like Ryley up Terry, Like nah, she threw

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<v Speaker 1>it in your face after you gave it all up

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<v Speaker 1>for her, like you did everything for her I'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to slap the shit out of her if that was me.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, no, I never heard her. I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>It was horrible the way he beat her. And they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you know she was beaten? And he said

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it, and they're like with the spy cams

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<v Speaker 1>and then he tries to backpedal on that and he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I just like found a website online that had a

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<v Speaker 1>spycam of her, like and it's like this episode does

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of weird math, like he planted the

1:09:30.720 --> 1:09:33.400
<v Speaker 1>spy cams, but also the Maestro uses spy cams, so

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<v Speaker 1>are some of them his and some of them the Maestro?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it is really confusing, like what's happening with this

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<v Speaker 1>math of this episode? And so what about the cello

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<v Speaker 1>the rat? And he's like, I don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. And they're like, well, then why are you

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<v Speaker 1>on the run and he goes, well, Amy says, you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to put me in jail for something I didn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>And Amy is the other They go, oh, yeah, your

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<v Speaker 1>other girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the landlady at the place that let them in,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, he's not my girlfriend, she's my landlady.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, well, she says, she's your girlfriend, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he goes, well she lied, and Stabler yells at

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<v Speaker 1>him and calls him a liar. Tell us the truth

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll convince the DIA to go easy on you,

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<v Speaker 1>Craigan says, and he goes, I told you I would

1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:17.840
<v Speaker 1>never hurt Cassie. And so now Cabot is weighing in

1:10:17.920 --> 1:10:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, honestly, we have nothing to tie him

1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to this assault, no forensics, no witnesses, just a mank

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<v Speaker 1>full of photos of her. They're like, what about the cameras?

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<v Speaker 1>The credit card fraud, It's like, she goes, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>prove it was him who used the card like it?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, because I guess if you use a credit

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<v Speaker 1>card that you stole and you get it to a

1:10:37.479 --> 1:10:39.960
<v Speaker 1>mailbox that you've registered in someone else's name, if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have you on camera, they can never prove that

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you who set it up. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So just a little tip for those of you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to commit credit card fraud, just please don't take mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't change all my numbers again. So his fingerprint

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<v Speaker 1>was found in her place, they said, and Cabot's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's trespassing at best. And it's like Jesus, like what

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<v Speaker 1>about stalking? And Cabot says, stalking has to prove that

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to frighten her, but he intentionally tried to

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<v Speaker 1>stay hidden. Cassie had never even seen this guy until

1:11:10.439 --> 1:11:13.040
<v Speaker 1>his arrest, So I guess stalking is like, you know,

1:11:13.080 --> 1:11:15.599
<v Speaker 1>showing up at someone's work, like letting yourself be seen,

1:11:15.800 --> 1:11:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like you know, and this guy was fully in hiding.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like, well, what about the case in New

1:11:20.439 --> 1:11:23.479
<v Speaker 1>Jersey where the landlord got thirty years for planting hidden cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>Cabot goes, that guy recorded sound, which elevated the charges

1:11:27.479 --> 1:11:31.439
<v Speaker 1>to wiretapping. Terry did not record sound, just video. It

1:11:31.560 --> 1:11:34.960
<v Speaker 1>is wild, all these like little things before we got

1:11:35.000 --> 1:11:38.280
<v Speaker 1>with the technology, you know. So they're like, well, we

1:11:38.320 --> 1:11:40.320
<v Speaker 1>can get him for burglary of the van because he

1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:43.040
<v Speaker 1>did they found the stolen tech uniform. But that's it

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<v Speaker 1>until the law catches up with all this technology. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got this guy on burglary and maybe trespassing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking it up to see if it's been updated,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I found it's said on the Internet. In

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<v Speaker 1>many states, it's legal to use hidden cameras in your

1:11:57.280 --> 1:12:00.240
<v Speaker 1>home for security purposes. However, cameras are typically not out

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<v Speaker 1>in areas where people have a reasonable expectation of privacy,

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<v Speaker 1>such as bathrooms, bedrooms, changing rooms. And in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a felony to use a hidden camera to

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<v Speaker 1>do an upskirt or a down blouse little quote unquote

1:12:11.960 --> 1:12:15.639
<v Speaker 1>both of those phrases, To secretly photograph or record someone

1:12:15.760 --> 1:12:18.960
<v Speaker 1>under or through their clothing, to monitor someone when they

1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:21.479
<v Speaker 1>have a reasonable expectation of privacy, to monitor someone without

1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:24.360
<v Speaker 1>their knowledge or consent, or to use or install imaging

1:12:24.360 --> 1:12:31.000
<v Speaker 1>devices for no legitimate purpose. Because I remember my friend. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just says felony. Disclosures in New York

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<v Speaker 1>at least are punishable by up to four years in

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<v Speaker 1>prison and a five thousand dollars fine. Misdemeanor is three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty four days in prison and a one

1:12:40.880 --> 1:12:43.599
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars fine. I love how they're like just shy

1:12:43.680 --> 1:12:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of the day. Three hundred and sixty four days just

1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:50.280
<v Speaker 1>a leap year in prison. But we have a friend

1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:54.040
<v Speaker 1>who was talking to a comedian that got like me too, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>after all this stuff came out and he called her

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<v Speaker 1>and she recorded their conversation. But she did it in Nevada,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's legal to record someone without them knowing. There

1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:06.000
<v Speaker 1>are some states where you can record someone without them knowing,

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<v Speaker 1>and those other states where it's totally illegal to record

1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:11.559
<v Speaker 1>someone without their That's why banks it always says, this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation may be recorded for quality assurance, like they have

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<v Speaker 1>to always let you know, all like if they're taping

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<v Speaker 1>a call. But our friend taped this guy, and she

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<v Speaker 1>goes because I was in Vegas and I'm allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, So it was But did she know that's

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<v Speaker 1>how she planned it. She went to Vegas to make

1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:27.960
<v Speaker 1>this call to like y, she just happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>She just happened. Oh my god. I mean, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>might have taped it anyway and just not like share it.

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<v Speaker 1>But then she's like, then I realized I didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong because in Vegas it's legal, or Nevada it's legal. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The gang is all together now in the precinct chatting.

1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Finn is like, well, at least we shut down this

1:13:43.920 --> 1:13:47.000
<v Speaker 1>little freaks operation. But Munch is like, no, the internet's forever.

1:13:47.080 --> 1:13:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I read that somewhere and Stabler's like, what a hell

1:13:49.560 --> 1:13:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of a way to achieve immortality. Benson walks in and says,

1:13:53.040 --> 1:13:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Amy posted Terry's bail. This guy got busted stalking another

1:13:56.720 --> 1:13:59.120
<v Speaker 1>woman and she's bailing him out. Like how blind can

1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:01.679
<v Speaker 1>love be? One of them says, and Stabler is about

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<v Speaker 1>to get a union Cassie when Craigan comes in, face

1:14:04.880 --> 1:14:09.439
<v Speaker 1>fall in and goes too late. Cassie's been shot, done done.

1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:12.160
<v Speaker 1>So now we're at the hospital. The boyfriend Kevin is

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<v Speaker 1>there and he is played by Robert Bogue, also a

1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:17.080
<v Speaker 1>soap guy. He's on like hundreds of episodes of Guiding Light.

1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:19.559
<v Speaker 1>If you're a Guiding Light gall or guy, I never

1:14:19.560 --> 1:14:22.320
<v Speaker 1>watched that one. I was only the ABC soaps, One

1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Life to Live, All my children in General Hospital. This guy,

1:14:25.840 --> 1:14:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Robert Bogue, is also in an FV episode called Legitimate

1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Rape from season fourteen, and he works a lot. He's

1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:32.400
<v Speaker 1>still working, He's in tons of stuff, but he's on edge.

1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:34.439
<v Speaker 1>When they get to him in the waiting room, he's like,

1:14:34.880 --> 1:14:37.320
<v Speaker 1>he's like, she's still in surgery. He's really really worried.

1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:39.559
<v Speaker 1>So this is when I officially dropped my theory that

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<v Speaker 1>he's involved, and he says, Cassie came to pick him

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<v Speaker 1>up from work. I forgot my wallet, so I went

1:14:44.720 --> 1:14:46.520
<v Speaker 1>inside to grab it, and then I heard the gunshots.

1:14:46.560 --> 1:14:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I ran back out and found her lying there. The

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<v Speaker 1>doctor comes out and is like, she's gonna be okay.

1:14:51.000 --> 1:14:53.120
<v Speaker 1>She got really lucky. So then the cops pull the

1:14:53.320 --> 1:14:55.679
<v Speaker 1>doc aside. They're like, tell it to us straight. She's

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<v Speaker 1>like two slugs to the back. One hit a kidney

1:14:57.880 --> 1:14:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and the other one just missed her heart. It was

1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:03.200
<v Speaker 1>small gun, close range. You can talk to her when

1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:06.680
<v Speaker 1>she's out of recovery. So they get a hit on

1:15:06.840 --> 1:15:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Terry's activity at a cafe two blocks away, and Sailor

1:15:10.439 --> 1:15:12.760
<v Speaker 1>goes to check it out with Munch. So now they're

1:15:12.800 --> 1:15:15.479
<v Speaker 1>at a place called Joe's Cafe and they're looking around

1:15:15.520 --> 1:15:17.559
<v Speaker 1>and they see this kid on a computer just watching

1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Cassie take her clothes off on a video, this little teen.

1:15:20.880 --> 1:15:24.439
<v Speaker 1>He's like oh, and he's like what the guy that

1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:26.759
<v Speaker 1>was sitting her left, So I'm just like watching his porn.

1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:29.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like not a big deal. And everybody keeps describing

1:15:29.960 --> 1:15:32.639
<v Speaker 1>this guy as scraggly haired and it's kind of a burn.

1:15:32.720 --> 1:15:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Like everyone keeps going, I don't know, medium height, medium builds,

1:15:35.160 --> 1:15:38.360
<v Speaker 1>scraggly hair, and which would be my nightmare if someone

1:15:38.360 --> 1:15:41.240
<v Speaker 1>said I had scraggly hair. And he says the guy

1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:43.439
<v Speaker 1>was blubbering about a chick leaving him for another man.

1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:47.400
<v Speaker 1>And then they show a picture of Terry to the

1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:50.679
<v Speaker 1>teen and he goes, yep, that's him. The kid goes,

1:15:50.720 --> 1:15:53.439
<v Speaker 1>he left ten minutes ago, and he also left Amy's

1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:56.400
<v Speaker 1>credit card behind the front desk. So they send this

1:15:56.479 --> 1:15:58.720
<v Speaker 1>kid to go off and do his homework. Stapler's like,

1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:00.160
<v Speaker 1>do we have homework? Get the hell out of here.

1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And then Stabler sends Munch and Finn to go see

1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:05.680
<v Speaker 1>what Amy is up to, and they catch up to

1:16:05.720 --> 1:16:07.800
<v Speaker 1>her as she's leaving her apartment building and she's got

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<v Speaker 1>all these grocery bags. And she is played by Jennifer

1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Laura Thompson, who is a Broadway baby. She was Chenowit's

1:16:15.920 --> 1:16:18.920
<v Speaker 1>original understudy in Wicked, and she did get to go

1:16:19.040 --> 1:16:21.760
<v Speaker 1>on and play Glinda in Wicked, and she was in

1:16:21.800 --> 1:16:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the original cast of Dear Evan Hanson on Broadway, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's done a lot of Broadway stuff. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>really got to go. I'm on my way to make

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<v Speaker 1>dinner for a friend in Brooklyn, and you can kind

1:16:30.920 --> 1:16:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of tell by her diction that she's a Broadway girl,

1:16:33.080 --> 1:16:35.519
<v Speaker 1>but she is playing it like kind of good creed,

1:16:35.680 --> 1:16:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm I didn't really get it at first, but

1:16:37.840 --> 1:16:39.400
<v Speaker 1>now I am like, oh yeah, what is up with

1:16:39.439 --> 1:16:42.360
<v Speaker 1>this woman? She's creepy. And she says, Terry hasn't been

1:16:42.360 --> 1:16:44.960
<v Speaker 1>home since he got out, and they're like, oh, well,

1:16:45.040 --> 1:16:47.320
<v Speaker 1>he what about your credit card? He has your credit card.

1:16:47.680 --> 1:16:49.320
<v Speaker 1>They're like, She's like, where did you find that? They're

1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:51.559
<v Speaker 1>like at an internet cafe, and she goes, there must

1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:55.080
<v Speaker 1>be some mistake and she goes, well, someone has shot Cassie.

1:16:55.080 --> 1:16:58.080
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, she goes, not Terry. He's the gentlest

1:16:58.080 --> 1:17:00.280
<v Speaker 1>man I know. And they're like, well, we just want

1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to make sure he doesn't hurt you, and she's like,

1:17:02.200 --> 1:17:04.040
<v Speaker 1>you've got him all wrong. And then she just gets

1:17:04.040 --> 1:17:06.639
<v Speaker 1>into her cab and they don't believe a word she's

1:17:06.640 --> 1:17:08.600
<v Speaker 1>saying about this dinner in Brooklyn, so they decide to

1:17:08.640 --> 1:17:12.400
<v Speaker 1>tail her at the hospital. Now Cassie is awake, and

1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:15.280
<v Speaker 1>she remembers nothing, of course, much like her first attack,

1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:17.120
<v Speaker 1>just a sharp pain in her back and falling to

1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:17.559
<v Speaker 1>the floor.

1:17:18.080 --> 1:17:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Suddenly I've really been going through it.

1:17:20.760 --> 1:17:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I know what I like, and it's it's such a

1:17:24.320 --> 1:17:26.360
<v Speaker 1>fucked experience too. Like I know a lot of people

1:17:26.400 --> 1:17:28.400
<v Speaker 1>have been through stalking, but it's like you, I think

1:17:28.400 --> 1:17:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you mostly know who the person is. You know, some

1:17:31.000 --> 1:17:32.720
<v Speaker 1>guy you went on one date with and then broke

1:17:32.760 --> 1:17:35.840
<v Speaker 1>it off with and he's delusional, but like to have

1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:38.160
<v Speaker 1>it just be someone that you don't even know, You've

1:17:38.160 --> 1:17:39.920
<v Speaker 1>never laid eyes on them, who knows how much they

1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:41.479
<v Speaker 1>could have been around you your whole life because you

1:17:41.520 --> 1:17:45.080
<v Speaker 1>never recognize them is so creepy and like, I don't know.

1:17:45.040 --> 1:17:49.000
<v Speaker 2>The violation just one other episode, like an in Cell

1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:51.240
<v Speaker 2>episode where this guy is killing all the.

1:17:51.240 --> 1:17:52.240
<v Speaker 4>Chads or whatever.

1:17:52.520 --> 1:17:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the girl's like, I don't even fucking

1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:58.040
<v Speaker 2>know you, and he oh, hold it, hold it's manifesto.

1:17:58.760 --> 1:18:00.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh is that the episode?

1:18:00.840 --> 1:18:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's ones where they look at his picture and

1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:06.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't remember they don't remember him, and even though

1:18:06.320 --> 1:18:08.800
<v Speaker 1>he was like a busboy at their restaurant where they waited, like,

1:18:09.080 --> 1:18:10.920
<v Speaker 1>they just don't remember him. And that's like an in

1:18:11.120 --> 1:18:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Cell's like, that's that'll really get an in cell going,

1:18:14.560 --> 1:18:17.599
<v Speaker 1>you know. So suddenly in the hospital room. These guys

1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:20.360
<v Speaker 1>come in with like four huge bouquets of flowers for her,

1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and they're like hold up, and they grab the cart

1:18:23.320 --> 1:18:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and it says together forever love Me. So they chase

1:18:26.240 --> 1:18:28.519
<v Speaker 1>down the delivery guy like it's him, and he's like,

1:18:28.960 --> 1:18:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I deliver flowers. And now Munch is on the phone

1:18:32.360 --> 1:18:35.040
<v Speaker 1>calling them, being like we've been following Amy all over creation.

1:18:35.240 --> 1:18:38.000
<v Speaker 1>She's switched cabs twice and she's ended up at a

1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:41.840
<v Speaker 1>dive hotel in Spanish Harlem, room six o two. So

1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:45.680
<v Speaker 1>now Benson, Stabler, Munch and Finn are all there. They

1:18:45.800 --> 1:18:48.559
<v Speaker 1>knock on the hotel room door and she's like go away,

1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:51.639
<v Speaker 1>and Benson's like, imagine the cops are like, okay, bye,

1:18:52.000 --> 1:18:55.240
<v Speaker 1>So Benson says open the door. She opens it. She's

1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:59.160
<v Speaker 1>standing there in a bathrobe, freshly showered. She's like, Terry's gone,

1:18:59.560 --> 1:19:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and there's window open, so you maybe d with like

1:19:01.920 --> 1:19:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a curtain blowing, so you maybe think he went out

1:19:03.760 --> 1:19:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the window. She says, I was going to take him

1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:07.800
<v Speaker 1>home to Oklahoma so we could make a new life,

1:19:08.160 --> 1:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>but Terry wouldn't leave the whore, and I warned her

1:19:11.000 --> 1:19:13.799
<v Speaker 1>to leave him alone. And so we find out Amy's

1:19:13.800 --> 1:19:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the one that attacked Cassie. She has she has a

1:19:17.439 --> 1:19:20.960
<v Speaker 1>delusional relationship with Terry, who has a delusional relationship with Cassie,

1:19:21.400 --> 1:19:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And so she goes she wouldn't listen, and they're like,

1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:27.280
<v Speaker 1>so you shot her. She goes, I had to stop her.

1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm the only one who really loves him, and then

1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:32.719
<v Speaker 1>they kick open the door to the bathroom and holy shit,

1:19:33.160 --> 1:19:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Terry is dead on the bathroom floor with blood spatter everywhere.

1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Like it is a particular the early seasons of the show. Like,

1:19:40.240 --> 1:19:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I know they've gone back to a lot of really

1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:44.400
<v Speaker 1>gross violence in very recent episodes, but the very early

1:19:44.439 --> 1:19:47.920
<v Speaker 1>seasons they did like long shots of the dead body,

1:19:48.120 --> 1:19:50.920
<v Speaker 1>blood splatter everywhere, Like I don't really think you see

1:19:50.920 --> 1:19:53.280
<v Speaker 1>as much of that in the middle seasons. But it

1:19:53.400 --> 1:19:56.559
<v Speaker 1>is a gruesome scene in this bathroom. And then they

1:19:56.680 --> 1:20:00.400
<v Speaker 1>just you just the cameras on Amy going I didn't

1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:02.880
<v Speaker 1>know what else to do. She has so many men.

1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Terry is all that I have. And that's dick wolf baby.

1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:12.640
<v Speaker 2>So that you thing, two delusions is that's that's us

1:20:12.720 --> 1:20:13.599
<v Speaker 2>view at its finest.

1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Two delusional people, two different guys that do spy cams,

1:20:17.479 --> 1:20:21.120
<v Speaker 1>like so much going on. But also and this girl.

1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Just wants to play the cello.

1:20:22.479 --> 1:20:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Do you think though that when did she

1:20:26.960 --> 1:20:29.960
<v Speaker 1>kill Terry? Did she just kill Terry while Benson, while

1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Munch and Finn were outside calling him back up, or

1:20:33.120 --> 1:20:35.000
<v Speaker 1>did she kill him earlier and then go home to

1:20:35.040 --> 1:20:36.720
<v Speaker 1>her apartment and like that's what she had in the

1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:38.599
<v Speaker 1>like shift stuff in the bags.

1:20:38.720 --> 1:20:41.240
<v Speaker 2>No, because I think she killed him in that hotel

1:20:41.320 --> 1:20:43.880
<v Speaker 2>room and then showered there to get the blood off.

1:20:44.520 --> 1:20:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:20:44.840 --> 1:20:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I think she stabbed him a ton in close range

1:20:47.479 --> 1:20:48.360
<v Speaker 2>and had to shower.

1:20:48.560 --> 1:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>But they were following him, so they must have been

1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:54.240
<v Speaker 1>right outside the hotel when that happened. But it looked

1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like that would have taken a long time. There was

1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:59.599
<v Speaker 1>just so much blood everywhere, I know, but you hit

1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:02.760
<v Speaker 1>an art and it really splirts. According to Dexter, I

1:21:02.760 --> 1:21:03.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

1:21:04.120 --> 1:21:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she because also it's like so classic like

1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:11.240
<v Speaker 2>blaming her, blaming the cello girl, where it's like, no,

1:21:11.439 --> 1:21:13.720
<v Speaker 2>you're this guy is the one chasing her?

1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, he fucking exists.

1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's the delusion is deep on all the levels here.

1:21:19.600 --> 1:21:21.200
<v Speaker 2>And then it's like you go back to the evidence

1:21:21.200 --> 1:21:23.080
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh, that's why there wasn't a rape

1:21:23.120 --> 1:21:25.559
<v Speaker 2>and that's why this and that's so yeah, and then

1:21:25.680 --> 1:21:28.120
<v Speaker 2>you go back in time. But I do like her

1:21:28.160 --> 1:21:31.200
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend because he's like, fuck the maestro, I don't care.

1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:33.040
<v Speaker 4>I love you, I'm there for you.

1:21:33.600 --> 1:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>And I like that. Oh God, twisted, twisted.

1:21:40.920 --> 1:21:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna do the true crime soon, and so

1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:46.760
<v Speaker 2>much of it, it's interesting, is outdated technology, and like

1:21:46.880 --> 1:21:49.280
<v Speaker 2>law is not catching up to tech, where it's like

1:21:49.320 --> 1:21:53.280
<v Speaker 2>this crime is so outdated today. Kind of it depends

1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:56.520
<v Speaker 2>what state you live in. Okay, so listen to our commercials,

1:21:56.680 --> 1:22:13.599
<v Speaker 2>really listen. So the case that I will be doing

1:22:13.960 --> 1:22:16.240
<v Speaker 2>is it's the Susan Wilson case.

1:22:16.600 --> 1:22:18.559
<v Speaker 4>And that is a common name.

1:22:19.000 --> 1:22:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this happened in nineteen ninety seven, if you

1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:25.200
<v Speaker 2>can take yourself all the way back there to those

1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Hourioas nineties and her husband Gary, So they moved into

1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:34.320
<v Speaker 2>a quaint little neighborhood Monroe in Louisiana. They got a

1:22:34.320 --> 1:22:37.400
<v Speaker 2>bigger house and they just were feeling super lucky about

1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:40.759
<v Speaker 2>their new home, new neighborhood, new life. Down the block

1:22:40.840 --> 1:22:44.120
<v Speaker 2>from Susan lived her a friend from high school whose

1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:48.040
<v Speaker 2>name was Stephen Glover and he went to Gary and

1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Susan's wedding, and he was also a deacon in their

1:22:50.920 --> 1:22:53.360
<v Speaker 2>church and even helped get them their house.

1:22:53.840 --> 1:22:56.240
<v Speaker 4>Their kids all played together, but.

1:22:56.200 --> 1:22:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Then all of a sudden, it started to feel like

1:22:57.960 --> 1:23:00.920
<v Speaker 2>this dude knew a little too much about them. So

1:23:01.200 --> 1:23:05.479
<v Speaker 2>one day, Susan remembers like her college yearbook came in,

1:23:05.880 --> 1:23:08.200
<v Speaker 2>And this makes me think, like why would college yearbooks

1:23:08.240 --> 1:23:10.760
<v Speaker 2>take so long, or like was it just from her

1:23:10.760 --> 1:23:14.479
<v Speaker 2>old home or are they young? Like h was a

1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:17.639
<v Speaker 2>grad school. Like this kind of confused me in terms

1:23:17.640 --> 1:23:20.160
<v Speaker 2>of timing. But so her college yearbook came in, and

1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>then that night he came by and he said something like, oh,

1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I know what you've been doing all day looking at

1:23:25.840 --> 1:23:27.040
<v Speaker 2>that yearbook, haven't you?

1:23:27.720 --> 1:23:28.599
<v Speaker 4>And that's when it was.

1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, okay, that was kind of like how would he

1:23:31.240 --> 1:23:34.120
<v Speaker 1>have known that? And that's according to CBS News. And

1:23:34.160 --> 1:23:37.360
<v Speaker 1>then also like the families had keys to each other's houses,

1:23:37.439 --> 1:23:40.360
<v Speaker 1>which is regular. You have my keys like you give

1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:43.479
<v Speaker 1>you want neighbors to have your keys. I remember our

1:23:43.760 --> 1:23:46.360
<v Speaker 1>neighbors had our keys when I forgot my keys from

1:23:46.360 --> 1:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>school after I broke the door that one time.

1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:49.639
<v Speaker 4>You know everyone had.

1:23:49.520 --> 1:23:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Keys, do you know, we had like no keys to

1:23:51.280 --> 1:23:54.320
<v Speaker 2>my house growing up, Like my house, the doors my

1:23:54.360 --> 1:23:56.479
<v Speaker 2>house was just open all the time, Like I don't

1:23:56.520 --> 1:23:59.920
<v Speaker 2>even know if my parents had keys to the house. Well,

1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>well that's interesting because like my friend Lindsay, like her

1:24:02.320 --> 1:24:04.439
<v Speaker 2>back door was always unlocked, like we would always just

1:24:04.479 --> 1:24:05.960
<v Speaker 2>walk into her family's house.

1:24:07.320 --> 1:24:08.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

1:24:08.280 --> 1:24:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, my version of a security system when we would

1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:13.680
<v Speaker 1>go on vacation was leaving the TV on. He was like, Oh,

1:24:13.720 --> 1:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>people won't break into your house if they think you're

1:24:15.320 --> 1:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>home watching TV. And I was like, with the car

1:24:17.200 --> 1:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>gone from the driveway, I think thieves are a little

1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>bit more advanced, Dad, But yeah, we just like never

1:24:23.160 --> 1:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>ever were locked out of our house or ever had

1:24:25.080 --> 1:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>keys to our house.

1:24:26.400 --> 1:24:28.160
<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's wild.

1:24:28.479 --> 1:24:33.200
<v Speaker 2>No, WI had keys and I lost them often, but

1:24:33.800 --> 1:24:37.080
<v Speaker 2>it was totally normal for neighbors to have each other's keys.

1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:38.639
<v Speaker 4>But yes, it began to.

1:24:38.680 --> 1:24:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Worry Susan because one weekend, she and her sister went

1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:46.559
<v Speaker 2>into Glover's house like they snuck in, so they did

1:24:46.560 --> 1:24:49.479
<v Speaker 2>have keys. So they ended up sneaking into Glover's house

1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and they found something. They found a videotape, and her

1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:54.679
<v Speaker 2>sister was like, they watched the tape, she goes, wait,

1:24:54.720 --> 1:24:56.679
<v Speaker 2>isn't that your bed, And then all of a sudden,

1:24:56.720 --> 1:24:58.840
<v Speaker 2>she saw her image on the tape and then it

1:24:58.880 --> 1:25:01.120
<v Speaker 2>was like, holy shit, that is my bed, that is me,

1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:03.760
<v Speaker 2>and then there's a camera focused on our bed. She

1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>then they went into his attic and they found like

1:25:06.439 --> 1:25:10.719
<v Speaker 2>a thirteen inch TV under the installation, and that's where

1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:12.640
<v Speaker 2>he was like watching stuff I don't know.

1:25:13.080 --> 1:25:13.800
<v Speaker 4>And then it.

1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Hit her like there were little tiny holes in the

1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:19.439
<v Speaker 2>ceiling of her home. But she didn't think that the

1:25:19.479 --> 1:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>holes were big enough for spying, Like she didn't even

1:25:21.320 --> 1:25:22.800
<v Speaker 2>think about the holes. And then all of a sudden,

1:25:22.840 --> 1:25:24.559
<v Speaker 2>she's like, oh my god, all of these holes are

1:25:24.600 --> 1:25:28.680
<v Speaker 2>like camera things. So she couldn't sleep in her bed anymore, obviously,

1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:30.599
<v Speaker 2>and she started to go a little nutty and like

1:25:30.920 --> 1:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>would sleep in her closet and little like she just, yeah, understandably,

1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>stopped trusting everything. And then they started finding other little

1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:46.240
<v Speaker 2>holes everywhere, and they found little holes over the shower

1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:49.639
<v Speaker 2>and in the child's bathroom, but like no tapes from

1:25:49.640 --> 1:25:50.599
<v Speaker 2>that were ever found.

1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:54.040
<v Speaker 4>But Glover was also spying in his home too.

1:25:54.120 --> 1:25:55.800
<v Speaker 2>There was just like he put a camera in the

1:25:55.880 --> 1:25:58.559
<v Speaker 2>room next to his hot tub where guests would change

1:25:58.600 --> 1:26:01.920
<v Speaker 2>to go into the hot tub. So but he got

1:26:02.040 --> 1:26:07.120
<v Speaker 2>no time for invasion of privacy, not any because so

1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the district attorney, Jerry Jones said, you have the peeping tom,

1:26:11.000 --> 1:26:12.920
<v Speaker 2>but and there are laws against that, but there was

1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:15.439
<v Speaker 2>no laws against the video part of the crime yet.

1:26:15.479 --> 1:26:18.120
<v Speaker 2>This is nineteen ninety seven, so technology was ahead of

1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the law. But it's like, you obviously know it's wrong

1:26:21.120 --> 1:26:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to videotape people in their home without telling them, but

1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>there just was nothing on the books.

1:26:26.160 --> 1:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>And but cameras existed before.

1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:31.240
<v Speaker 4>This, you know what I mean. Like I don't understand.

1:26:32.479 --> 1:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like camera technology only in like the

1:26:35.120 --> 1:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>late nineties, was getting so small where you could even

1:26:37.800 --> 1:26:40.400
<v Speaker 1>do like anybody would have noticed a camera before that,

1:26:40.600 --> 1:26:43.559
<v Speaker 1>like you know, if you had dressing room.

1:26:43.640 --> 1:26:45.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but we're talking about tiny cameras.

1:26:45.280 --> 1:26:49.719
<v Speaker 2>But like remember the season one episode where like Carrie's

1:26:49.800 --> 1:26:53.280
<v Speaker 2>of Sex and the City where Carrie's friend it like

1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>likes fucking models and taping them and then Samantha wants

1:26:56.000 --> 1:26:58.759
<v Speaker 2>to fuck him, and then his camera was full size,

1:26:58.880 --> 1:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was a full size So it's like

1:27:01.439 --> 1:27:04.920
<v Speaker 2>there were cameras. I don't understand why the law, Like

1:27:05.000 --> 1:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you needed them to be tiny to protect people from

1:27:07.920 --> 1:27:09.959
<v Speaker 2>being hit, like taped without their knowledge.

1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just strange to me.

1:27:13.840 --> 1:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>But like, so then this guy Jerry Jones, the DA

1:27:17.400 --> 1:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>was said if he peeked through a window, he could

1:27:19.400 --> 1:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>have been arrested, but since it was a camera, it

1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:24.679
<v Speaker 2>could not be prosecuted. But it's totally not true because

1:27:24.720 --> 1:27:27.439
<v Speaker 2>when my building super climbed on a ladder and spied

1:27:27.479 --> 1:27:29.600
<v Speaker 2>on me in the bedroom window, I was told by

1:27:29.640 --> 1:27:32.360
<v Speaker 2>the NYPD no charges could be filed because he wasn't

1:27:32.400 --> 1:27:37.400
<v Speaker 2>jerking off or videotaping, and because he like with the ladder,

1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>like since he's the super of the building, you would

1:27:39.320 --> 1:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>have to prove that he couldn't be there and stuff.

1:27:41.600 --> 1:27:44.120
<v Speaker 2>But like he wasn't a ladder whistling and it like

1:27:44.240 --> 1:27:47.639
<v Speaker 2>elbows into my apartment. But the NYPD said, no jes,

1:27:47.840 --> 1:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>no tape, no, no nothing. So it's like this guy

1:27:52.080 --> 1:27:54.400
<v Speaker 2>in Louisiana is saying we have peeping tom laws, and

1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:57.799
<v Speaker 2>then in New York cut to like in the twenty teens,

1:27:59.280 --> 1:28:01.879
<v Speaker 2>there are no people tom laws. He needed to leave evidence,

1:28:01.920 --> 1:28:04.519
<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's really fucking annoying.

1:28:05.600 --> 1:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I wonder if that had been a regular

1:28:08.280 --> 1:28:10.439
<v Speaker 1>guy and not your super, if they could have gotten him.

1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>But because he's the super, he can always say he's

1:28:12.680 --> 1:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>fixing shit.

1:28:14.600 --> 1:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, no, we can sure, but you would have

1:28:17.000 --> 1:28:18.800
<v Speaker 2>to give someone a heads up while you're in their window.

1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that Corny was just like lazy. It's great,

1:28:21.320 --> 1:28:23.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm the thing, it's right. But I'm wondering if he

1:28:23.600 --> 1:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>was just like a random dude that climbed up a

1:28:25.080 --> 1:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>fire escape and was peeping, if he would get busted

1:28:27.120 --> 1:28:29.479
<v Speaker 1>and that this guy was probably like, oh, their window

1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>was shaking, I had to fix it, you know, like

1:28:31.479 --> 1:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>he made an excuse that obviously should have still told you. Yeah,

1:28:35.080 --> 1:28:38.679
<v Speaker 1>he's so scary. Yeah, it's just like it's annoying.

1:28:38.800 --> 1:28:41.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like the cops will do anything to not do

1:28:41.120 --> 1:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>work or something, or they'll go shoot an unarmed person

1:28:44.560 --> 1:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>too much or too little. So eventually this dude just

1:28:47.320 --> 1:28:51.120
<v Speaker 2>planned guilty to unauthorized entry and he got three years probation.

1:28:51.520 --> 1:28:54.479
<v Speaker 2>So that's not really like, doesn't make anyone really feel safer.

1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>He admitted that he taped them, but he denies that

1:28:57.040 --> 1:28:59.400
<v Speaker 2>he taped the children, and he did offer an apology

1:28:59.400 --> 1:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>through his lawyer, Susan brought a civil suit against Glover

1:29:03.000 --> 1:29:05.719
<v Speaker 2>for invasion of privacy. I was not able to find

1:29:05.760 --> 1:29:09.439
<v Speaker 2>out how that ended. Susan in the DA though, they

1:29:09.439 --> 1:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>began a quest to pass laws making video voyeurism a crime.

1:29:13.400 --> 1:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>So she successfully lobbied for passage of a state law

1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>that made video voyeurism a felony. And then September two

1:29:19.400 --> 1:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, the House and Senate criminalized video voyeurism

1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>before it went to President Bush's desk, and then he

1:29:25.320 --> 1:29:29.200
<v Speaker 2>codified it, so the Video Voyeurism Prevention Act of two

1:29:29.200 --> 1:29:30.200
<v Speaker 2>thousand and four went in.

1:29:30.560 --> 1:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And then do you see my notes? What is that

1:29:32.120 --> 1:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>symbol on past code? Oh?

1:29:33.960 --> 1:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I like copied and pasted it. I

1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know what this code is. Maybe we'll post it

1:29:39.320 --> 1:29:40.439
<v Speaker 2>on our stories.

1:29:40.560 --> 1:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>It kind of helped, like two s's overlapping each other

1:29:43.800 --> 1:29:46.879
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, like yeah, with like you know code,

1:29:47.000 --> 1:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>let us know, Like, but yeah, I have no idea

1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>what that is.

1:29:52.120 --> 1:29:56.439
<v Speaker 2>So it's eighteen US code. This symbol eighteen oh one.

1:29:56.640 --> 1:29:59.840
<v Speaker 2>And this was, like I said, it was really hard

1:30:00.200 --> 1:30:06.800
<v Speaker 2>to search for this because kind of like parental alienation syndrome.

1:30:07.160 --> 1:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Most of the stuff was defense attorneys helping you beat

1:30:11.400 --> 1:30:15.719
<v Speaker 2>these charges. It was like rows and rows of Google

1:30:15.800 --> 1:30:20.080
<v Speaker 2>pages of defenses. I watched a bunch of videos of

1:30:20.080 --> 1:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>defense attorneys being like were you found? Like were are

1:30:23.680 --> 1:30:26.040
<v Speaker 2>you charged for video voyeurs? And I'm gonna help you?

1:30:26.120 --> 1:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>And this is unfair. It was just like so many attorneys,

1:30:29.479 --> 1:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, defense attorneys gotta work. So it was just

1:30:31.760 --> 1:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>like all these people because the laws are tricky, like

1:30:36.200 --> 1:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>there's security cameras, and then it's like what you said

1:30:38.400 --> 1:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>in your findings where it's like if it's a place

1:30:41.920 --> 1:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>where it's presumed privacy, but how do you prove that?

1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:47.800
<v Speaker 2>And who owns what? And with the sound on and off,

1:30:47.840 --> 1:30:49.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like it is really.

1:30:49.360 --> 1:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And then that recent episode of SVU where Live is

1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>getting peeped on when she's in the shower of that

1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>motel room when she's in her bedroom with the way,

1:30:57.200 --> 1:30:59.599
<v Speaker 1>yeah the towel was a huge moment for us. By

1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:01.719
<v Speaker 1>the way, I just google that symbol. It means section

1:31:02.880 --> 1:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>never seen it in my life.

1:31:04.000 --> 1:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Shine, but I didn't. I just put it in Google.

1:31:06.760 --> 1:31:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, so funny, but I guess I thought

1:31:09.880 --> 1:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>you would know it. You are my Google. So it's

1:31:12.560 --> 1:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>eighteen US Code section eighteen oh one. Okay, cool, that

1:31:16.240 --> 1:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, So we have a new symbol section. So yeah,

1:31:21.240 --> 1:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>like there were just tons of defense attorneys for this.

1:31:23.920 --> 1:31:26.320
<v Speaker 2>But in Louisiana I found that if you are found guilty,

1:31:26.320 --> 1:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>you do have to register as a sex offender. And

1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>other states have harsher laws too, So like by two

1:31:32.080 --> 1:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>thousand and seven, thirty four states made video voyeurism a felony,

1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>but from state to state it does depend if it's

1:31:39.200 --> 1:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>a felony or misdemeanor. Like in some states videotaping someone

1:31:42.800 --> 1:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>in their own bedroom is still a fucking misdemeanor, Like

1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:49.760
<v Speaker 2>it is really wild. And then the Spokesman Review, which

1:31:49.800 --> 1:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>is a paper in Spokane, Spokane, whatever, Washington. I think

1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:55.439
<v Speaker 2>it's Spokane, we've been there, or into Folkan.

1:31:55.560 --> 1:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they say Spokane, Yeah, spoke okay, Spokane. That's

1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>that sounds okay.

1:32:01.320 --> 1:32:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Actually, So that paper says that she that Wilson is

1:32:05.800 --> 1:32:08.719
<v Speaker 2>one is the one that prompted all these states timpost

1:32:08.800 --> 1:32:12.320
<v Speaker 2>penalties for videotaping people without their knowledge, and she is

1:32:12.439 --> 1:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>pleased by the Federal Act. But those are like federal case.

1:32:16.000 --> 1:32:20.439
<v Speaker 2>So like the federal laws, they like, if.

1:32:20.320 --> 1:32:23.599
<v Speaker 1>You tape someone on like federal land parks, like all

1:32:23.640 --> 1:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>of that kind of stuff, secret bathrooms and stuff like that,

1:32:26.640 --> 1:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>because I guess there's this Federal Act overall, but then

1:32:30.000 --> 1:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>state to state they're still always they do their own thing. Yeah,

1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>being a.

1:32:33.360 --> 1:32:34.439
<v Speaker 4>Lawyer is so.

1:32:34.520 --> 1:32:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Complicated, Like I couldn't even find I just I just

1:32:39.600 --> 1:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>wanted a straightforward list states misdemeanor, felony.

1:32:43.240 --> 1:32:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Are you on the list or not? And it's like

1:32:45.160 --> 1:32:46.040
<v Speaker 4>you can't find that.

1:32:46.120 --> 1:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Everything is so convoluted and difficult for at least me,

1:32:50.560 --> 1:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Like I just whenever I look for laws states to state,

1:32:53.800 --> 1:32:56.479
<v Speaker 2>it's so complicated. And then it's just like all these

1:32:56.600 --> 1:33:00.160
<v Speaker 2>articles and all these inclusions and all these pieces, it's

1:33:00.200 --> 1:33:03.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty wild. The federal actors say that violators can have

1:33:03.920 --> 1:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>fines up to one hundred thousand dollars and sent to

1:33:06.439 --> 1:33:10.799
<v Speaker 2>prison for a year or both. But she also, like Wilson,

1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:13.479
<v Speaker 2>said that the way the evidence was handled was really

1:33:13.520 --> 1:33:17.240
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. Like the cops would say to her like, oh,

1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>it seems like you've lost some weight from the videos,

1:33:20.960 --> 1:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and they refer to her as a performer on the tape.

1:33:24.600 --> 1:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah.

1:33:26.920 --> 1:33:29.320
<v Speaker 2>And then my favorite was the New York Post had

1:33:29.360 --> 1:33:31.760
<v Speaker 2>an article and it was titled make Peepers Pay.

1:33:33.520 --> 1:33:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was good. I didn't even take anything

1:33:35.800 --> 1:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>from the article, but I did.

1:33:37.439 --> 1:33:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I like like that. And the case did become a

1:33:40.000 --> 1:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>lifetime TV movie. And that's the other thing that made

1:33:42.280 --> 1:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>this research hard because it was all reviews about the

1:33:45.200 --> 1:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>movie and information about the movie. So the movie is

1:33:50.240 --> 1:33:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Video Voyeur, the Susan Wilson story where Angie Harmon played Susan.

1:33:56.200 --> 1:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, lawn Order Royalty Angie Harmon, Yeah, and

1:34:01.040 --> 1:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I see it just sucks.

1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>She was she's a Republican, but oh she is boo.

1:34:06.960 --> 1:34:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's changed her ways. But yeah, she's married to

1:34:09.520 --> 1:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>like a football player. And yeah that track she's so beautiful.

1:34:16.360 --> 1:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, like in twenty thirteen, it's Risolian, I'll star.

1:34:20.400 --> 1:34:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Angie Harmon talks homosexuality, politics and believing in therapy. Okay, great,

1:34:28.920 --> 1:34:30.640
<v Speaker 2>she goes, I'm a liberal Republican.

1:34:30.720 --> 1:34:31.919
<v Speaker 1>We actually exist.

1:34:32.120 --> 1:34:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Call it naivete or stupidity, but I didn't know that

1:34:34.520 --> 1:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>unless you're a Democrat, you aren't allowed to talk politics

1:34:36.960 --> 1:34:40.479
<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood. Oh, she goes, whether you're gay or straight,

1:34:40.520 --> 1:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. That's nice.

1:34:42.560 --> 1:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's all well and good until her party starts

1:34:45.200 --> 1:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>taking away right the rights of the gay people, you know,

1:34:48.200 --> 1:34:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the bars like, yeah, she goes.

1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I believe in therapy, I don't believe in staying in

1:34:53.160 --> 1:34:57.040
<v Speaker 2>it for life. When you have an issue, talk to somebody. Yeah,

1:34:57.840 --> 1:35:00.840
<v Speaker 2>why do we care what she said? Ah, because she's

1:35:00.920 --> 1:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>resoli or maybe she's asles. I actually have no no,

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<v Speaker 2>I meant wait. Twenty nineteen, Angie Harmon slammed by conservative

1:35:06.840 --> 1:35:08.240
<v Speaker 2>fans over feminism shirt.

1:35:08.560 --> 1:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>You went to the dark side. Yeah, see, you're never

1:35:11.320 --> 1:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be good enough for them over there, Angie. If

1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:16.639
<v Speaker 1>you're not like all the way with the Republicans, they're

1:35:16.640 --> 1:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>not gonna keep you. Yeah, she wrote a shirt.

1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:21.800
<v Speaker 2>She wrote a shirt that said feminism is for everybody,

1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:27.320
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I believe feminists hate men. They're jealous of men,

1:35:27.400 --> 1:35:30.479
<v Speaker 2>they wish they were men, just some twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you for telling me about this though. That's interesting.

1:35:34.800 --> 1:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about this case and what a pioneer got.

1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Susan Wilson, I'm sorry that happened to you. But you

1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>made fucking lemonade out of lemons. They're making these making

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<v Speaker 1>the peepers pay, as they say, But join us for

1:35:46.240 --> 1:35:52.559
<v Speaker 1>a post mortem because we still don't have any guests

1:35:53.439 --> 1:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, post mortem time. I guess, I don't know,

1:35:58.640 --> 1:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>are we all becoming numb to just being videotaped all

1:36:01.040 --> 1:36:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the time now that we have.

1:36:02.320 --> 1:36:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Our No, I would be really upset if I found

1:36:06.360 --> 1:36:09.679
<v Speaker 2>hidden cameras. I don't think the prevalence of cell phones

1:36:09.800 --> 1:36:13.360
<v Speaker 2>in our labs will preface for that, absolutely.

1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:14.960
<v Speaker 4>And in hotels and anything.

1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Just like you do act different when you're by yourself,

1:36:17.479 --> 1:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>and it is crazy to imagine that someone can see her.

1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's just such a crazy example of

1:36:24.920 --> 1:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>how like the law never is like up to date

1:36:27.880 --> 1:36:30.720
<v Speaker 1>with technology and like that there was barely anything this

1:36:30.760 --> 1:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>woman could do when this guy was just like invading

1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>her privacy in her bedroom for like months. I mean,

1:36:37.680 --> 1:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how. I don't remember how long the

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<v Speaker 1>well I did place cover the fame.

1:36:43.280 --> 1:36:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Like the most famous case of this that I know

1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:50.160
<v Speaker 2>is for Aaron Andrews. So Aaron Andrews is was at

1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>at ESPM. But she's an NFL reporter and you know

1:36:54.240 --> 1:36:56.880
<v Speaker 2>as a podcast and a clothing a sports clothing line

1:36:56.880 --> 1:37:00.760
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. But this guy was going to

1:37:00.920 --> 1:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>every like in three separate hotel rooms. He would get

1:37:04.000 --> 1:37:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the room next to her and like set up cameras

1:37:07.040 --> 1:37:08.880
<v Speaker 2>and like peeping tom and there was all these videos

1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:10.600
<v Speaker 2>of her naked that he put together and put on

1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>the internet. But my thing is how was he able

1:37:13.720 --> 1:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>to request to be near her every single time?

1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>What a psycho? Yeah?

1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:21.479
<v Speaker 2>But he did get jail time and fines and then

1:37:21.560 --> 1:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>like she was awarded fifty five million dollars, so twenty

1:37:25.120 --> 1:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>seven million from him, and then Marriotts owed the rest.

1:37:28.560 --> 1:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>What yeah?

1:37:29.960 --> 1:37:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So four years later Andrews won a fifty five

1:37:32.479 --> 1:37:34.519
<v Speaker 2>million dollars lost suit against Barrett and the companies that

1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:37.400
<v Speaker 2>manage the Nashville Marriott hotel where the videos were filmed. Oh,

1:37:37.400 --> 1:37:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I guess it was just one Marriotte every time, But

1:37:39.280 --> 1:37:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know like she did she always get the

1:37:42.120 --> 1:37:44.519
<v Speaker 2>same room. How did he find out? And how We're like,

1:37:44.640 --> 1:37:47.839
<v Speaker 2>how did they? How was a man able to request

1:37:47.880 --> 1:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>to be near her and the hotel there was no

1:37:50.160 --> 1:37:51.479
<v Speaker 2>red flags or nothing?

1:37:52.600 --> 1:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's like we check in together and we're like,

1:37:54.960 --> 1:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>can you put us close to each other? Like if possible?

1:37:57.120 --> 1:37:59.320
<v Speaker 1>But like yeah, if I was just like waiting for

1:37:59.400 --> 1:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you to go upstairs and then going can I get

1:38:00.800 --> 1:38:02.639
<v Speaker 1>a room near her? Like that would be.

1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Or you would request a specific number, but like, how

1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:07.519
<v Speaker 2>did he get it every time?

1:38:08.240 --> 1:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Did? Like? Was she just in the presidential suite?

1:38:10.880 --> 1:38:14.439
<v Speaker 4>It is? It is wild, but she was.

1:38:14.360 --> 1:38:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Just on Hoda's podcast recently talking about it, so it's

1:38:17.080 --> 1:38:18.120
<v Speaker 2>a little bit Wait.

1:38:18.439 --> 1:38:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Did you say, like how he actually took the videos? No,

1:38:24.640 --> 1:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>he was just okay, how would he drill a hole

1:38:27.360 --> 1:38:27.760
<v Speaker 1>through a way?

1:38:27.920 --> 1:38:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Like a secretly filmed her several times through a peep

1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:33.320
<v Speaker 2>hole while she was naked in her room. So I

1:38:33.320 --> 1:38:35.559
<v Speaker 2>also don't know how there's a peep hole, but was it?

1:38:36.240 --> 1:38:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I just can't imagine Aaron Andrews being in a room

1:38:39.400 --> 1:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>with conjoined doors. I really like, there's no fucking way

1:38:45.360 --> 1:38:47.479
<v Speaker 2>unless there's like a producer on the other side or

1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:50.160
<v Speaker 2>people that she worked with, Like, I just can't imagine

1:38:50.160 --> 1:38:51.960
<v Speaker 2>her being at But I guess she was just at

1:38:51.960 --> 1:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a Marriott, So I don't I don't know. I don't

1:38:56.880 --> 1:38:59.640
<v Speaker 2>know what ESPN is doing. But yeah, he put the

1:38:59.680 --> 1:39:02.160
<v Speaker 2>shit out online and he sent two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>years in jail.

1:39:04.200 --> 1:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Fucking good man. I guess they've caught they've caught up now, Yeah, he.

1:39:08.720 --> 1:39:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Was released in twenty twelve, but I really remember that

1:39:11.240 --> 1:39:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and like something she said. She goes, yeah, people were

1:39:13.360 --> 1:39:16.320
<v Speaker 2>like this scandal, and she's like, it wasn't a fucking scandal,

1:39:17.080 --> 1:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, And just the way it was framed, it's

1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:22.040
<v Speaker 2>like she truly was a victim of a crime, and

1:39:22.160 --> 1:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>the media was trying to portray it as some like

1:39:24.560 --> 1:39:28.680
<v Speaker 2>salacious scandal. And I know that was annoying for her

1:39:28.840 --> 1:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>because like, yeah, a scandal is if but even if

1:39:33.240 --> 1:39:36.559
<v Speaker 2>like someone if like you make the video, but even

1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:39.559
<v Speaker 2>if someone puts it up without your consent, that's a crime.

1:39:39.640 --> 1:39:41.880
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, I don't know.

1:39:42.280 --> 1:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like in this interview, she's saying that a friend

1:39:44.720 --> 1:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>called her to tell her about it and was like,

1:39:46.080 --> 1:39:48.439
<v Speaker 1>there's this video, and she goes, no, there's not, Like

1:39:48.520 --> 1:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that. I don't send those videos, Like

1:39:50.960 --> 1:39:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't have like that. If somebody did that for me,

1:39:53.479 --> 1:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like I'm the same, like I don't. I just like

1:39:55.200 --> 1:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>don't take videos like that. So it's like if someone's

1:39:57.680 --> 1:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>like Cara, there's like a pornographic video of you going

1:40:00.000 --> 1:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like, Jared, what did you do? You know,

1:40:02.720 --> 1:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>because like there's no way like this could be like,

1:40:06.520 --> 1:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, we're just like not filming.

1:40:09.080 --> 1:40:11.280
<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, and now that I'm like a full

1:40:11.280 --> 1:40:16.040
<v Speaker 2>football fan, it's my feed is so much football.

1:40:16.800 --> 1:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just saw thinking from a week ago that

1:40:19.280 --> 1:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Andrews was having dinner with Tom Brady in Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care about him. I think he's a loser.

1:40:26.000 --> 1:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Well mean neither. I don't care about him either, But

1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if that was in your for you

1:40:29.120 --> 1:40:30.559
<v Speaker 1>page now that you're a football girl.

1:40:30.960 --> 1:40:32.240
<v Speaker 4>No, I really don't care about him.

1:40:32.240 --> 1:40:34.280
<v Speaker 2>And when I was talking to Sarah Tiana, who is

1:40:34.840 --> 1:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>an NFL expert and a comedian, so I cornered her

1:40:39.439 --> 1:40:42.839
<v Speaker 2>and she was telling me great things about Travis boots

1:40:42.840 --> 1:40:45.320
<v Speaker 2>on the ground is that like he's great, She's never

1:40:45.360 --> 1:40:49.080
<v Speaker 2>seen him be a creepy red flag in any capacity

1:40:49.120 --> 1:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>they've been out and about, and like he is respectful

1:40:53.280 --> 1:40:55.439
<v Speaker 2>and kind and she just has only the best things

1:40:55.439 --> 1:40:57.519
<v Speaker 2>to say about him. And then she was like, oh,

1:40:57.600 --> 1:40:59.840
<v Speaker 2>he's like they're gonna be like Tom Brady and Jose

1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and I go, absolutely not. That is disgusting. They are

1:41:03.320 --> 1:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>like Beckham and Posh. If we're gonna do anything, and

1:41:06.200 --> 1:41:07.880
<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh whatever, and it's like, I guess if

1:41:07.880 --> 1:41:11.320
<v Speaker 2>you're like a football fan, you do really love Tom Brady,

1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:14.120
<v Speaker 2>but he's just such a douche tool to me.

1:41:14.520 --> 1:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady's the one that gave up to tomatoes because

1:41:17.320 --> 1:41:20.639
<v Speaker 1>they cause inflammation and caused a million people to start

1:41:20.680 --> 1:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>doing that, like not eating night shades and stuff.

1:41:23.240 --> 1:41:26.479
<v Speaker 2>They also didn't end up together, and Gazelle gave up

1:41:26.479 --> 1:41:30.120
<v Speaker 2>her job. Gizelle quit modeling for like twelve years, you

1:41:30.200 --> 1:41:30.680
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

1:41:31.320 --> 1:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>No, the thing about Tom Brady that kills me, and

1:41:34.320 --> 1:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I hope we don't have a ton of Tom Brady

1:41:35.800 --> 1:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>fans that are gonna come for us, but like, it

1:41:38.000 --> 1:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>kills me that the women that are that eighty for

1:41:40.920 --> 1:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Brady is based on are real fucking women. And he

1:41:44.200 --> 1:41:46.720
<v Speaker 1>executive produced that movie and appears in that movie, and

1:41:46.760 --> 1:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>he never met those women, Like as when that movie

1:41:49.960 --> 1:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>came out, those women had not met Tom Brady. Maybe

1:41:52.439 --> 1:41:54.519
<v Speaker 1>they have now, but at that time they had not met.

1:41:54.600 --> 1:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you can't go meet the women

1:41:56.800 --> 1:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>who are obsessed with you that you're making a movie

1:41:58.800 --> 1:41:59.679
<v Speaker 1>off of their story.

1:42:00.680 --> 1:42:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Now, he sucks, I did see because he is in

1:42:03.800 --> 1:42:06.920
<v Speaker 2>my feed sometimes, like a younger football player asked advice.

1:42:07.040 --> 1:42:10.439
<v Speaker 2>He was like, how do I balance You know, my

1:42:10.600 --> 1:42:13.280
<v Speaker 2>family and the excitement and parties and all that, but

1:42:13.360 --> 1:42:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I have a job to do. And Tom Brady gave

1:42:16.160 --> 1:42:18.679
<v Speaker 2>like a two minute kind of speech of like, none

1:42:18.760 --> 1:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>of nothing else matters.

1:42:20.000 --> 1:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>This is your job.

1:42:20.840 --> 1:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>People are relying on you, and it's not a party,

1:42:23.439 --> 1:42:26.679
<v Speaker 2>and you know you owe nobody nothing in a way.

1:42:27.200 --> 1:42:29.200
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying, like, compare it, like being like,

1:42:29.280 --> 1:42:32.479
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Travis and Taylor will be like Brady

1:42:32.520 --> 1:42:35.240
<v Speaker 2>and Giselle is to me the most awful thing. Like

1:42:36.200 --> 1:42:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Taylor is not gonna stop working and making music, you

1:42:38.920 --> 1:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like, and I think he likes that.

1:42:42.120 --> 1:42:44.160
<v Speaker 2>And I bet Tom Brady just wanted someone at home.

1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:46.439
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, I just don't like him, maybe

1:42:46.439 --> 1:42:48.519
<v Speaker 2>because he was on the winningest most team and stuff

1:42:48.960 --> 1:42:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think they won because of him, and then

1:42:51.040 --> 1:42:52.840
<v Speaker 2>he proved it by going to Tampa Bay.

1:42:52.880 --> 1:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>But like, I don't like him, and your story proves it.

1:42:56.000 --> 1:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>He can be a good football player. We just I mean,

1:42:57.920 --> 1:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that has nothing to do with me. He's just not

1:43:00.320 --> 1:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>like Travis.

1:43:01.200 --> 1:43:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I heard his magnetic lights up a room, charismatic funny y.

1:43:08.000 --> 1:43:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm loving those old sweets where he's like I just

1:43:09.800 --> 1:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>watched the squirrel go to town on a nut damn.

1:43:12.479 --> 1:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Like he seems funny, but yeah, just more energy.

1:43:17.840 --> 1:43:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Like to me, Tom Brady's a robot and it looks

1:43:20.800 --> 1:43:22.879
<v Speaker 2>like he had what is it, the boogle fat removed

1:43:22.960 --> 1:43:23.959
<v Speaker 2>the buckle fat.

1:43:23.760 --> 1:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>He is he looks like a buckle fat king. I

1:43:25.920 --> 1:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he actually did it, but that's what

1:43:27.479 --> 1:43:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I think of. Buckle fat removal is like just that

1:43:29.840 --> 1:43:33.439
<v Speaker 1>like Sally like sunken in cheeks kind of.

1:43:33.680 --> 1:43:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Because I also understand to be a champion, you must

1:43:37.240 --> 1:43:41.040
<v Speaker 2>be a little nuts you know, you need to. It is,

1:43:41.200 --> 1:43:43.240
<v Speaker 2>you have to be very competitive, You have to work

1:43:43.439 --> 1:43:46.080
<v Speaker 2>very hard, go above and beyond everyone else that's the

1:43:46.120 --> 1:43:48.720
<v Speaker 2>best in their game. You have to like I think

1:43:48.880 --> 1:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>he lead the team, Like I get it. It is

1:43:51.400 --> 1:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>you really have to have that spirit that makes you

1:43:53.720 --> 1:43:56.519
<v Speaker 2>want to do more more. But I don't know Sean

1:43:56.560 --> 1:43:59.880
<v Speaker 2>White had that. And he seems cool. He seems like

1:44:00.000 --> 1:44:02.519
<v Speaker 2>he would have a bowl of Lucky Charms and celebrate

1:44:02.560 --> 1:44:05.160
<v Speaker 2>his birthday with a beer, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

1:44:05.280 --> 1:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I just like, don't respect someone that can't eat tomatoes

1:44:08.320 --> 1:44:11.320
<v Speaker 2>because of you know, the sugar content, Like I can't.

1:44:12.120 --> 1:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>It just sickens me. And he I heard he wasn't

1:44:15.200 --> 1:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>even nice to his other son. Remember he had a

1:44:16.920 --> 1:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>whole other White Bridge Am. Yeah. I don't know.

1:44:21.680 --> 1:44:22.479
<v Speaker 4>I truly don't know.

1:44:22.520 --> 1:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't I can't even believe I've talked this long

1:44:24.320 --> 1:44:26.519
<v Speaker 2>about something I have no idea about. But I know

1:44:26.600 --> 1:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I hate him.

1:44:29.520 --> 1:44:31.080
<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, but I love you.

1:44:31.240 --> 1:44:33.639
<v Speaker 1>That's safe to say. Lisa will not be planting a

1:44:33.840 --> 1:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>tiny surveillance camera inside of Tom Brady's home.

1:44:37.640 --> 1:44:40.519
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to spy on anyone, or even when

1:44:40.520 --> 1:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>people are like what magical power would you have? Or

1:44:43.000 --> 1:44:46.280
<v Speaker 2>superhero power if you could have anything anyone that's like

1:44:46.400 --> 1:44:50.160
<v Speaker 2>mind reading, walking through walls invisible, those are freaks.

1:44:50.520 --> 1:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a red flag. I think invisible could be kind

1:44:53.960 --> 1:44:55.760
<v Speaker 1>of fun, Not because I want to watch people. I

1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>think you could like, like I don't know, I think

1:44:59.040 --> 1:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you could, like I think it's a re things about

1:45:01.000 --> 1:45:03.760
<v Speaker 1>like you could like I don't know, I could find

1:45:03.760 --> 1:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>out like who killed John Benet, Like there's like so

1:45:05.960 --> 1:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>many things you could do if you turn invisible. You

1:45:07.560 --> 1:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>could take money, teleport teleport, Yeah, like teleportation is if

1:45:14.160 --> 1:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to be everywhere, or you can have like

1:45:18.080 --> 1:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>intense detectives.

1:45:19.120 --> 1:45:20.639
<v Speaker 4>I just think those three like.

1:45:20.920 --> 1:45:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Invading the ability to invade people's boundaries. If that is

1:45:25.640 --> 1:45:29.080
<v Speaker 2>your number, you can fly like you're picking invisibility over

1:45:29.200 --> 1:45:30.840
<v Speaker 2>flight free.

1:45:31.040 --> 1:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I would do flight, but I also think invisible could

1:45:33.200 --> 1:45:34.519
<v Speaker 1>be good. But I don't think about it as being

1:45:34.520 --> 1:45:36.559
<v Speaker 1>able to like listen in on people's conversations. I think

1:45:36.560 --> 1:45:38.240
<v Speaker 1>about it to be able to do whatever I fucking want,

1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:41.320
<v Speaker 1>no one can see me. What would okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's like it perks my ears up

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, you're not trustworthy if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be invisible, but you're your number one is not invisible.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I do like flight. You're not going to pick it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just did this at family camp last year where

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<v Speaker 1>we said what would your superpower be? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I said flight, But then when people said invisible, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, good one, I would do that too.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no no no no no an invisibility cloak.

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<v Speaker 2>No for me, it's full teleportation at all times, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even think of anything else that would come

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<v Speaker 2>near it. Oh yeah, yeah, you could just pop and

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<v Speaker 2>be somewhere. Yeah, we would never have to get on

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<v Speaker 2>a plane ever again. Yeah, can you tell what your bags?

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<v Speaker 2>You would be anywhere you need to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would honestly rather shit my clothes. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I would do think about that. I really didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think about that, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so I teleported to Spain and the

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<v Speaker 1>airline lost my fucking toilet trees, Like that would totally

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<v Speaker 1>be us.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking to someone who said, when they fly,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't pack and they buy stuff when they land.

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<v Speaker 5>What.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, I just did a panel about travel for

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<v Speaker 1>another podcast, and there was just one person on the

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<v Speaker 1>pod that was like, I don't know, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as an venture and I don't really care

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. And I'm like, you got to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so opposite of that, Like I'm planning every everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I can't think about being lax about travel.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, but while you're there or no, she's

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<v Speaker 1>like getting to the airport, she doesn't really care about

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<v Speaker 1>getting there super early, Like she never checks the bat

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's like she's kind of like I

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<v Speaker 1>can sleep anywhere if I have.

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<v Speaker 4>Delays it's something, But why is she flying?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it's someone that does comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's just more pressure, like you can't not get

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<v Speaker 2>like if if your one o'clock flight gets delayed, you

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<v Speaker 2>miss your show.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like I you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, when I'm when I'm coming home, when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just when I have nothing going on, I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>most relaxed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll fucking get a voucher. If you need me to switch,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck. You're like, you're one of

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<v Speaker 1>those if you have flexible travel plans, please see us

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<v Speaker 1>for five hundred adulta bucks or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it would have to be over a thousand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>be cash. I follow Erica.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, oh she reads the fine print, so would I

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<v Speaker 2>would try to get the max money. I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>when there's work involved, that's what adds the pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like just being there.

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<v Speaker 2>Even missing a family holiday or an event doesn't bother

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<v Speaker 2>me as much. It's like to miss work is fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. My husband famously missed his grandmother's funeral because Delta

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<v Speaker 1>had a staffing issue, and they gave him like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks voucher or something. It was crazy anyway, always back

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<v Speaker 1>to the flights. Always we're always bitching about.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm just dreading getting on the planes tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And I went to pick up my

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<v Speaker 1>brother at Lax last night, like just kind of forgetting

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<v Speaker 1>because it was like Monday before Thanksgiving and it was

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<v Speaker 1>crazy just getting into Lax like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna leave like an hour before I would

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<v Speaker 2>normally leave. Yeah, yeah, you'll be good if you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm definitely doing that because even the parking

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<v Speaker 2>spot's going to be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm gonna do. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>giant mistake, it really is. You do us. You've gone

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of lengths to avoid eatings Thanksgiving at

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<v Speaker 1>a steakhouse with me and my children, and I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like that makes sense. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into our what would Sister Peg Do, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>speak we're mentioning Thanksgiving. We're in the time machine as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>and for this week's what would Sister Peg Do, which

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<v Speaker 1>is our weekly segment where we direct you towards a resource,

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<v Speaker 1>a book, a website, an organization, something where you can

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about what we talked about in today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing really fits in for us on today's episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>so with the holidays coming up, we wanted to point

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<v Speaker 1>you guys towards a resource for anyone struggling with, like

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<v Speaker 1>any mental health difficulties during this stressful time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a very crazy time of year. There's family issues,

1:49:42.520 --> 1:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, work issues, There's all kinds of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>creeping up for people, and I feel like the holidays

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<v Speaker 1>are a time that really taxes our mental health. So

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to point you to the nine eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. The nine eight eight Lifeline provides

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven free and confidential support for people

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<v Speaker 1>in distress, US prevention and crisis resources for you or

1:50:02.680 --> 1:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>loved ones, and best practices for professionals in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>So for more resources, go to nine eight lifeline dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>You can chat with the nine eight Lifeline there and

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<v Speaker 1>if you or someone you know is having a crisis

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<v Speaker 1>called nine eight eight amazing. Yeah, take care of yourselves

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<v Speaker 1>this holiday season, and next week we'll be doing a

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<v Speaker 1>Misunderstanding Season seventeen, episode two. Can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>You're all the best, XOXO forever see you next week.

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