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Speaker 1: with two conversations. First it's Director of Player Personnel Duke

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Speaker 1: the greatest thing since post draft phone calls. Here's what

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Speaker 1: happens for those of us covering the Bengals during the draft.

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Speaker 1: Within minutes after the Bengals make a pick, a coach

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Speaker 1: life changing phone call from Zach Taylor. For instance, here's

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Speaker 1: game of football, so religios being out there and making

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Speaker 1: plays with my teammates is the biggest thing for me.

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Speaker 1: You have an older brother that we're familiar with because

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Speaker 1: he's been in the AFC North Justice running back for

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. I'll pick up a point of a

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Speaker 1: point of pride gets it in your family now to

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Speaker 1: it's really just a testament to to our parents, Um

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Speaker 1: and UM, I feel like that's just a testament of

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Speaker 1: you know, since I've been a kid until now, they've

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Speaker 1: always been in my corner and supportive and so uh so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that game is very highly anticipated, you know, you

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Speaker 1: know coming up, so definitely that will be an exciting

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Speaker 1: game for you know, for the family to watch. He

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Speaker 1: was one of many guys that was hurt last year. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Yes he was. How difficult was that whole thing for

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Speaker 1: him and for his entire team? I mean he's a strong,

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Speaker 1: you know, strong willed person. So I feel like he

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Speaker 1: didn't get too high or low. He knew everything happened

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Speaker 1: for a reason. So I talked to talk to him

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Speaker 1: about that and didn't feel any type of way. Um,

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Speaker 1: he knew that next year he would prove himself, you know,

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Speaker 1: to be even better. So uh he went, he went

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Speaker 1: through recovery, would really well and yeah, so he's good now.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about three thirty in the afternoon the

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Speaker 1: day after the draft. You got chosen about eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: last night. So it's been a whirlwind. You get the call,

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Speaker 1: you're with sixty friends and family members, You celebrate a

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Speaker 1: little bit, you talk to the media, you got a

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Speaker 1: few hours to sleep, you're on a plane, you're in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and now you're talking to a bunch of local reporters.

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Speaker 1: Are you running on fumes? I am, and I'm stubbling,

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Speaker 1: oh my words saying there. I can't even speak clearly today,

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Speaker 1: just because it's been a lot, a lot of long hours,

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Speaker 1: you know, the last day or two. But I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: excited and thankful for it. You know that I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: like this. He walked in the news conference room. He

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Speaker 1: held up at number twenty three, Jersey, did they show

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Speaker 1: you the available numbers? I know you wore thirty at Michigan,

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Speaker 1: but that was unavailable because of Jesse Bates, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they showed me twenty six, twenty seven, twenty nine. So

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Speaker 1: twenty three was my mind design effector. And just because,

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Speaker 1: like I said in the press conference, Michael Jordan's kind

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Speaker 1: of like the greatest of all time, So I kind

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Speaker 1: of want to mimic my game, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: out in the field in that way you told us

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Speaker 1: basketball was your first love. Did you play everything as

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Speaker 1: a kid in Tulsa? All sports that you could? I

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Speaker 1: was religious, basketball, and football, So football was kind of

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Speaker 1: like fourth grade. And then eventually got in to track

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Speaker 1: later on my high school career, like or early in

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Speaker 1: my high school career freshman this aphomore year. So so

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Speaker 1: ended up playing three sports throughout my you know, elementary

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Speaker 1: all the way through high school. How'd you wind up

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Speaker 1: in Michigan? Religious build great relationships, forming the great relationships

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Speaker 1: with the players and the coaches there, and there was

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Speaker 1: no brainer for me to you know, go there, and

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Speaker 1: also you know, want to go far away from home,

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Speaker 1: you know, find myself. And so that's what I did,

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Speaker 1: and feel like that worked out really well for me.

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Speaker 1: So right after draft weekend, players report, you get to work,

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Speaker 1: you start meeting your new teammates. How eager are you

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Speaker 1: to get started? Very eager. I know this is a

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Speaker 1: new chapter in my life and it's gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: be life changing as well. But also opener to you

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Speaker 1: know the business world and how things operate. Things operate

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00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: totally different, you know, from you know, collegiate level to

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Speaker 1: the pro. So I really want to carry myself in

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Speaker 1: a way as a pro every day. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to, you know, meeting teammates and my

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Speaker 1: new teammates and then you know, compete out in the

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Speaker 1: field as well. You're a first round draft pick, it's

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary accomplishment, recognition of a lot of hard work. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cincinnati. Oh yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. Good to be here. Later that night, Dax

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Speaker 1: was treated to a celebratory dinner at Carlo and Johnny,

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Speaker 1: one of Jeff Ruby's restaurants. In case you're wondering, he

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Speaker 1: did not get a stake Burrow or the Moonyo's or

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Speaker 1: the collins Worth. He opted for the salmon. Now that's discipline.

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