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Speaker 1: just been grinding here during the holiday. So I said,

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of mailbag questions. Let's do a big

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Speaker 1: mail bag, little weekend mail bag at John Middlecoff. At

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms? Not

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Speaker 1: So thanks for spreading the good word and listening to

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Speaker 1: Wanted to say I've been a subscriber for a while

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Speaker 1: and no, this is some kind of words. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I think this is k Your knowledge of football educated

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Speaker 1: a question. Now. My question is pretty simple, who do

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Speaker 1: And how significant is your coordinators in personnel coaches compared

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Speaker 1: way more than the head coach comparably to the impact

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Speaker 1: just in the same way that a college coach has

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Speaker 1: to kind of be dialed in on the class. But Urban,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, Hey, John, why should I

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Speaker 1: get excited about these Mike Tomlin rumors about a Giants?

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Speaker 1: As a Giants fan, he doesn't won a playoff game

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Speaker 1: calling him a great coach. He's a good coach. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what the Giants would do for a good coach?

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Speaker 1: Think about that? Do you know what you guys would

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Speaker 1: do for a good coach? Think of the run you're

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Speaker 1: on from McAdoo to Shechrmer to Joe Judge to the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years of Brian Dable. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what you would do for the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: of the Steelers just being ten and seven, ten and

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Speaker 1: seven and this year maybe nine to eight A lot?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and you guys are more equipped with your

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Speaker 1: roster to be better than them. So this notion that

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Speaker 1: you guys are too good for Mike Domlin, you weren't

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Speaker 1: too good for Joe Judge or Pat Shermer. Those guys

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Speaker 1: are fucking terrible. Joe seems like a nice guy. He's

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Speaker 1: just awful head coach. Whenever I see this notion, like,

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Speaker 1: do you know what it's? Why? When bent when Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: said that Tomlin should go to Penn State, I was like, bro,

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Speaker 1: do you know what the Titans would do to go

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Speaker 1: from Brian Callahan to Mike Tomlin. He doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: go to Penn State and live in state college. It's

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Speaker 1: like the fifth best Big Ten job, which obviously what's

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Speaker 1: his name with the funny hat Perdies guy is going? Uh,

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Speaker 1: Clearly JJ isn't the guy. So where do the Vikings go?

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Speaker 1: Clearly no good free agents? Do you try and trade

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Speaker 1: for mac Jones or get a guy like Jamis and

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Speaker 1: have a fun year before you fire the GM? It's

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Speaker 1: a great question. I don't know. I think anytime you're

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Speaker 1: in that situation, it's a scary place to be because

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Speaker 1: there aren't really good answers. Cause if I told you

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is their quarterback next year with Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 1: with the talent they have, if Flores is still there,

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Speaker 1: they could easily be a ten to eleven win team.

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Speaker 1: But like if I'm Kyle Shanahan, like, I'm not just

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Speaker 1: giving him to you for nothing. He's really valuable for us,

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Speaker 1: So the price that I would need to give him

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Speaker 1: up is a price like I can't give a second

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Speaker 1: round pick for mac Jones. And maybe you'd say, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can't do you want to win eleven games?

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Speaker 1: Or do you want to be in the position you're

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Speaker 1: in right now? Because if who do the Vikings play

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Speaker 1: this week? I don't know why I'm blinking right now,

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Speaker 1: but let me look it up really quick. The Vikings

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Speaker 1: who are the Oh they play the Commanders. If you

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Speaker 1: lose the Commanders and he looks terrible against that defense,

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Speaker 1: I just think Vikings fans will be over him. And

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Speaker 1: one thing you cannot do is like roll back, like

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Speaker 1: we'll give him an off season. This. I hate it

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Speaker 1: when people are like, what about the patience? A lot

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Speaker 1: different when teams are worth like four hundred million dollars

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six and the biggest contract was like

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Speaker 1: Emmett Smith getting four years fifteen million dollars, which, don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, was a ton of money back in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. But when you're talking about giving countless

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Speaker 1: people on your team hundreds of millions of dollars, when

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Speaker 1: you're paying a coach fifteen million dollars, like, the timelines

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Speaker 1: are just different. They just are no different than quarterly

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Speaker 1: earning reports in twenty twenty five have more impact on

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Speaker 1: the market than they did twenty years ago. Times have changed.

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Speaker 1: We live in a different world. We have less patience.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they'll never play in the NFL, but

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Speaker 1: his Vikings ten year, I would say, is like a

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Speaker 1: couple more bad games from being like borderline officially over.

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Speaker 1: Anyone saying otherwise is on drugs. I can't help but

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Speaker 1: find myself more and more nervous after every win. I

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Speaker 1: love Sean Payton and the defense is nails, but bo

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Speaker 1: and the offense terrify me. I can't help but think

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter magic will run out. Do you think

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Speaker 1: they can go all the way? I have a couple

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Speaker 1: of tickets left at the beginning of the year, and

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Speaker 1: one of them was I put one hundred dollars on

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Speaker 1: a Packers Broncos up in the Super Bowl. That thing

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Speaker 1: pays over eight thousand dollars. So I am rooting for

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Speaker 1: the Packers and Broncos to play in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: unless I'm playing with some house money. And I have

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Speaker 1: a huge like division parlay, which I need the Texans

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Speaker 1: to win that division and I need to Seattle to

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Speaker 1: win the division. I'm in pretty good shape with Denver

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Speaker 1: and Tampa's not even done yet, so that might not

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Speaker 1: hit but one hundred dollars to win eight thousand, like,

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Speaker 1: that's I'm rooting for that. So I hope. So I

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Speaker 1: don't feel great. I don't. I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be getting home field is going to be big. So

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Speaker 1: however it plays out between you and the Patriots, pretty

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Speaker 1: clear the AFC is going to go through New England

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Speaker 1: or Denver, kind of like old times. I get a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions, what do you think the Denver Broncos

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Speaker 1: should do? Or excuse me this, I don't know why

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Speaker 1: said Denver Broncos. What do I think the Vikings should do?

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Speaker 1: I just don't think there's a concrete answer. I think

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Speaker 1: you know what these guys are hoping. It's like he'll

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Speaker 1: just figure it out, as crazy as that sounds, which

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Speaker 1: is not gonna happen. But at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: with whatever five games left, you're just praying, like, could

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Speaker 1: he just rattle off like three good games and just

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Speaker 1: shut everybody up? Probably not gonna happen, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's where they're at. I don't even think like they

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Speaker 1: can contemplate what their options are. You can't draft another

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Speaker 1: quarterback high. There aren't really great options. It's not like

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Speaker 1: even the good options like mac Jones would be an

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Speaker 1: okay option, but he's not even available. They're in a

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Speaker 1: tough spot. I saw with the forty nine ers, they

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Speaker 1: were completely screwed and they got lucky with a seventh

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Speaker 1: round pick. You know, the Colts a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: They just could sign Daniel Jones, and even now he's

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Speaker 1: got a broken fidula and sauces hurt, and it kind

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Speaker 1: of feels like it's unraveling. Stucky kind of broke down

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Speaker 1: the schedule. They lose week to the Jags, like they

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Speaker 1: could lose out. Your guy, Tim Skipper taking over at

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Speaker 1: cal Poly awesome for that program. I'm very happy for him,

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I texted him probably a week ago,

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Speaker 1: when kind of rumors are flying, I said, skip, go

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Speaker 1: to the SEC. Go be someone's assistant head coach. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago. He was Florida's assistant head coach

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Speaker 1: when they were winning the SEC East. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I just think he's so much better than these guys

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Speaker 1: getting opportunities. I'm such a believer in the human being.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I went to cal Paly. I don't care

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Speaker 1: that much about the football program. I do now and

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Speaker 1: the program is extremely lucky, and I mean extremely lucky

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Speaker 1: to get Tim Skipper, like the school out kick their

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Speaker 1: coverage like this. He's just he's too good for them,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I say that with pride, like they're very,

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Speaker 1: very lucky. And you know, when I was there, they

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Speaker 1: had Rich Ellerson, who was a defensive coordinator for some

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Speaker 1: of the great Arizona teams in the nineties with like

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bruski, and that cal Paul was very lucky to

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Speaker 1: have him as a coach, and he went on to

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Speaker 1: coach at Army. I would be stunned if Skipper does

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Speaker 1: not have success putting together a staff, started texting with

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Speaker 1: some former dogs and just putting a toughness there and

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Speaker 1: again the standard at cal Paulyly get to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: in Division one Double A, and he'll be the next

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Speaker 1: coach at President in a couple of years. But I'm

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Speaker 1: happy for him because you get become Jeff Tedford quits

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Speaker 1: in the summer, you're thrust on being the interim coach

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Speaker 1: with none of your own people. And then obviously this

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Speaker 1: year at UCLA kind of unofficially ending the James Franklin era.

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Speaker 1: Pretty historic moment, right take it out James Franklin in

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Speaker 1: that game as a twenty five point favorite. I know

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Speaker 1: you have some great things about to say about Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes guts and tough play. This season, he has lost

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Speaker 1: some close games and seemed to bid off and throws

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Speaker 1: when trying to push the ball down the field. Do

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Speaker 1: you think it's because Patrick is getting older and lost

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Speaker 1: a step, whereas the fact that the offensive line less

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Speaker 1: looks suspect and wide receivers don't get the same separation.

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Speaker 1: I think two things can be true. He's still a

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Speaker 1: stud and everyone in the league would have want him right.

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Speaker 1: I think the only guy teams would consistently pick over

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Speaker 1: him is Josh Allen. We could make the argument, like

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Speaker 1: you know, Drake May, you got to do it multiple years,

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Speaker 1: but obviously he's on the come up. There are other

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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, but he's His resume speaks for himself. He

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Speaker 1: also would like a little more. You know, he's missed

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Speaker 1: a lot of these passes down the field, and not

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Speaker 1: all of them are just like sixty yard bombs. Some

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Speaker 1: of them are like in stride. He should be able

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Speaker 1: to hit with his eyes closed. He's missing, so I

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Speaker 1: would say his superpower of dominating in eighteen, nineteen, twenty,

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Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two. He just hasn't quite been the

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Speaker 1: same guy. And there are variables around you. But I

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Speaker 1: do think that the Chiefs are gonna continue this run.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna need him to be a dominant player. And

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Speaker 1: he's shown flashes, but you know, you're thirty years old.

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Speaker 1: He's played a lot of football. I think sometimes too,

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Speaker 1: when you go to a on a long, long run

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Speaker 1: and they've been to five Super Bowls in six years,

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Speaker 1: and the one year they didn't go, they lost in

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game. If they do miss the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: like they get a long, long break, refresh, come back

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Speaker 1: and have the best season or one of the best

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Speaker 1: seasons of your career. Like to me, if they missed

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, the expectation if I'm coach Reid and Veach

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs brass is like, Okay, you take a

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Speaker 1: long break. We'll do a good job restocking the cupboard here.

639
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a better team next year. We'll hit

640
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: on some draft picks. We need you to be like

641
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: right there with Josh Allen and a couple of years ago,

642
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: like Lamar when he's healthy like dominate the league like

643
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: you did when you hit the scene, double middle fingers

644
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: every single week, kind of what you know Manning had

645
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: that when he got to Denver. Just be pissed off

646
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: for greatness and be fascinating to watch a big time

647
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Charger fan. My question is, do you think the Chargers

648
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: in a hypothetical situation where both tackles are healthy. I mean,

649
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: we could play that all every team in the league.

650
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Could you guys compete to win the Super Bowl if

651
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: everyone was healthy? I know what you're saying, but it's like,

652
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: there are so many injuries in the NFL. I do

653
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: think this with Jim Harbaugh and the infrastructure that he brings,

654
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: that you guys are going to be a contender for

655
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: years to come, and to win a Super Bowl, you

656
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: need to have health on your side. You guys can't

657
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: afford to lose your two star tackles and compete for

658
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's impossible, right, So you know you lose

659
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: rn Agie Harris Hampton gets injured like you just had

660
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: with a coach that wants to run the ball. So

661
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: it's like, wait, I lose my two best lineman, but

662
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: two running backs and the dude from the backup has

663
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: been good. Yeah, I actually kind of like them, But

664
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: you guys will have a chance. You guys are not

665
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: going anywhere. It's not going to be the up and

666
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: down kind of phillip Rivers era as long as Jim

667
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is there. In retrospect, do you think things would

668
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: have played out better if the Chargers were the team

669
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: that went to Vegas and the Raiders stayed in Oakland.

670
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Rams would get LA all to themselves. Oakland doesn't lose

671
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: their team, so the Raiders keep their core fans, and

672
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: the Chargers get a new billion dollar stadium plus a

673
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: state all to themselves. The Raiders could have even moved

674
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: back to their roots in LA if Oakland couldn't afford them,

675
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: couldn't afford to keep them. I think Oakland fans would

676
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: say their roots in LA. They were in Oakland, and

677
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: you guys took them from us for fifteen years. When

678
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: they came back, well, I was you know. Some might

679
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: say I became a podcaster because of my takes on

680
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: this story and It's Heyday. The Raiders and me butted

681
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: heads over this one, and at the time I had

682
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: a big core group of Raider fans and I felt

683
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: really bad for them, and I talked a lot of

684
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: shit about the Vegas move. It was an emotional take

685
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: and I was completely wrong. The best thing that ever

686
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: happened to the Raiders by a mile, was leaving Oakland

687
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: and going to Vegas. Financially, they're at a different level.

688
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: It's great for the league. Now you can say their

689
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: home games are altered. That is true. It was not

690
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: sustainable what was happening, and there was just a siphon.

691
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: It's like another team playing in Chicago, another team playing

692
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: in Philly, another team playing in Dallas. It's not the

693
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: forty nine ers take too much of the energy, and

694
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: you were always gonna be the little brother, and so

695
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: moving from a financial standpoint, from a market standpoint makes

696
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Now you get a win. But

697
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: the league also was never gonna allow them to go

698
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: to LA. They weren't allowing the Raiders to go to

699
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: Los Angeles like that. That was a big thing. They

700
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: weren't gonna It wasn't gonna happen. So I think it

701
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: worked out best actually for the Raiders and the Ramps,

702
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I think Dean would say there is an

703
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: economic element to San Diego. They clearly have more money

704
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Clearly a little bit of an afterthought. Obviously, Listen, financially,

705
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Raiders benefited greatly. The Raiders have

706
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: the city to themselves in Vegas is while the casino industry,

707
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: like tangibly the Strip. I think it's going through hard times.

708
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: I would bet the farm on the overall economic ceiling

709
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: of Vegas. No taxes, companies will move there, so it

710
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: might shift from being gambling heavy to other industries. But

711
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: I got news for you. New companies aren't probably starting

712
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: in California over the next one hundred years. When you

713
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: factor in taxes and getting employees to move like Vegas

714
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: is gonna benefit greatly. They already have. So it was

715
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: a huge win. Every team left Oakland, every single one.

716
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: The A's were the team that desperately tried the most

717
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: and had the hardest time. Joe Laca bought the Warriors

718
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: to move them to San Francisco, and Mark Davis had

719
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: desperately been trying to leave. So I think everyone kind

720
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: of won. It's it's not a perfect situation, but I

721
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: think we got the right outcome. If you've never been

722
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: to the Coliseum, I mean obviously the older stadiums that

723
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: are now long gone. It is a relic. It is

724
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: such a dump. I can't even it's harder to describe.

725
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's I would take dynamite and blow that

726
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: bitch to smither rings. I would go to baseball games.

727
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: The A's would be playing like the Yankees. Wow, the

728
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: Yankees will get fans, but definitely a random team. It

729
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: was like A's Rangers, this major League Baseball. This when

730
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: the A's were winning like ninety five games. I mean,

731
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: they had teams that you thought could win the World Series.

732
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: They always shit the bed in the playoffs. You would

733
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: go to a game on Wednesday and I shit you not,

734
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: there were seven hundred people in the park. It's like,

735
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: what is going on? It just it's it's kind of

736
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: sad what happened because once upon a time, obviously the

737
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: Raiders in the seventies, the A's in the seventies and eighties,

738
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 1: those times are long gone. And I think a huge

739
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: reason is that the forty nine ers in the San

740
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: Francsco Giants, their success, their corporate success of getting the sponsors,

741
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: it just separated. You know, little mom and pop shops

742
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: that used to crush it and then Target moves in

743
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: next door put you out of business. Luckily for those teams,

744
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: A's who knows the Raiders are fine. When we discussed

745
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: the greatest coaches of all time, we usually bring up

746
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: the guys that have the most super which is completely

747
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: valid in your opinion. Who are some of the best

748
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: coaches that don't have a Super Bowl? It's a good question.

749
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: I would say Brian Schottenneimer's dad obviously would be near

750
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: the top of that list. When I was a kid,

751
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: I mean I felt like Marty's teams. I even missed

752
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: some of his Cleveland teams that lost to John Elway

753
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: in that famous drive game, but his Kansas City teams

754
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: were awesome. He just couldn't get it done. I would

755
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: say currently, you know, forever it was Andy Reid and

756
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: then obviously he shut everyone up. Kyle right now has

757
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: to be near the top. I mean, you have a

758
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: lot of guys in the league right now. I mean,

759
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: Kyle's been a two Super Bowls and had leads in

760
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: the second half, lost them both. Now they both come

761
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: to Andy and Patrick. But you know, you'd say, like

762
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, Like Mike Rabel's been a one championship game.

763
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: So it's like if you get to super Bowls and lose,

764
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, Marv Levy losing to those Bills games. Did

765
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: Marv Levy ever win a Super Bowl somewhere else? I

766
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: don't think he did, but that was a little before

767
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: my time. A lot of guys any think about the

768
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: best coaches win super Bowls? Marvel Levy man, I never

769
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: want it. Coached in the Canadian League for a while,

770
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: I would say Marty Schottenheimer would be near the top.

771
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: I would say currently it'd have to be Kyle just

772
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: bend To too. Lost them both and he gets knocked

773
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: for the one that he was offensive coordinator for. I

774
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: noticed that koc has been missing on play calling. He's

775
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: great as a head coach, but has been regressing on

776
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: the play calling. Do you think it's time for him

777
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: to give up play calling and focus on the players.

778
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: I heard someone say I haven't seen the clip that

779
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: he kind of admitted either on Sunday. I don't think

780
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: it was after the game. It might have been on

781
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: Monday or Wednesday's press conference. He didn't really change the

782
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: game plan for the for the kid that came in

783
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: and what was an unmitigated disaster. I think it's really

784
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: really hard to judge in these type situations, Like I

785
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: don't know what he's really supposed to do, like last

786
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: week on the road in Seattle that had disaster written

787
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: all over it. JJ McCarthy, like Bill Walsh could be

788
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: calling place. If he's overthrowing guys by seventeen feet, what

789
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? So? I just I don't know.

790
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: I no one would look good in this situation, not

791
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: a soul. My boyfriend deactivated his Instagram accounts, sol I'm

792
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: asking this question for him. Do you think about dak

793
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: to the Vikings in the off season, assuming the Cowboys

794
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: fizzle out before or during the playoffs. They seem like

795
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign George Pickens, they have the draft capital

796
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: for Micah to trade, and if the Vikings give them

797
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: a first and possibly a second, maybe throwing JJ McCarthy,

798
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: that there is no chance that the Cowboys are getting

799
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: ready to deck all Jerry has said for like the

800
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: last seven years, like he's our most important player, he's

801
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: our most important He's more important than Michael Parsons. Kind

802
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: of proven right. I also think that last night, I'm

803
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: recording this on Friday was a rough moment for George,

804
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: and I text multiple high ranking NFL officials what would

805
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: you do? Like would you pay George Pickens? And both

806
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: of them are replied essentially f no, no chance, and

807
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: there is no disputing his talent, but like you're gonna

808
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: give this is the cost of doing business with a

809
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver. It's like, wow, we can get him two

810
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: years twenty million dollars. I mean minimum he'd want like

811
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: four years one hundred million dollars. You got to get

812
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: into business with people you can trust, like CDs had

813
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: some drops or whatever. But the guy's war Daddy Dak.

814
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I'll go to War Dak Prescott. Look at their guys

815
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: on defense playing their ass off. George's like, oh no, no, no, no, no,

816
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: no no. I keep thinking about Mike Tomlin walking around

817
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: the office just going on, like I've told everyone, you

818
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: guys watching this. It's like Mike, we're six and six

819
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: and we're circling the drink. I don't care. You see

820
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: George lollygagon on that comeback route. He was a lollygagon.

821
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I thought that he's talking shit to Richard Sherman because

822
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: Richard was like, bro, you gotta play harder. It's like George,

823
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: if you want the random people like US podcasters talking

824
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: like say in your Lollygagon, I can understand, but you

825
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: might want to google that guy's resume, like no one's

826
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: like yeah, Richard's dogs It guy had won at a pretty

827
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: high clip. I would say this LB would have taken

828
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: your ass out if you were playing like that. That

829
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: When those guys are saying that, especially someone like him,

830
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: that's offensive to them. Right, it's a you're gonna lose.

831
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: It's it's sports, it's life. You're not always gonna win.

832
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: But I think one thing I'm about to have a son,

833
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: like the one lesson that any father tries to teach

834
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: a young man is like we don't quit, and if

835
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna do something, you gotta try hard. Right Listen,

836
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: you might not be good at it, but if you're

837
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: doing it, you gotta try. These are like basic principles

838
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: of life. It's why I have so much respect. I

839
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: mean I was I already really liked the player and

840
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: liked the guy and everything he stood for. But my

841
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: respect for amanas Saint Brown, Like he's everything you would

842
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: want in a player. He's everything that the Steelers when

843
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: they were rolling the Ravens, Like those are the type

844
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: guys they go to war with back in like the

845
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: two thousands. It's that type player. I'm seventy five percent

846
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: who gives a shit, shoot me up, tape it up.

847
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: In this roll, you got George like Amos's Ben paid

848
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: his direct deposits, already hit with big numbers. George is

849
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: the one that wants a contract and he's playing like that.

850
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: It was just I have a lot of respect for

851
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: making it to the NFL, and it's it's I didn't

852
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, so it's who am I to

853
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, this guy, but you know you're working

854
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: per now. It's just kind of how they talk. The

855
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: reality is is certain people are not good enough, right,

856
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: But then you get someone like this who clearly has

857
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: a ton of talent, who's a blue chiper from Georgia.

858
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: But there was a reason when you google him, he

859
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: didn't go in like the top twenty. And there's a

860
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: reason if you just know people in the NFL and

861
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: you started texting, like what do you think of this guy?

862
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: Just just wait. That's a consistent theme if you just

863
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: text scouts, Oh yeah, it's going well, now, just wait.

864
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: I don't blame the Cowboys for making the move, but

865
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: you have moments like that that would almost be a

866
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: defining moment for me, like I can't pay you, no chance,

867
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: can't happen. I can't do business with that. How do

868
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: I say to CD, like, I know you just got

869
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: a concussion, you were about to go for two hundred

870
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: and fifty yards and your running made over here is

871
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: just I don't know, going for a jog. That's the

872
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: type stuff like well run organizations do not tolerate it.

873
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: And Jared, you know, I think Jerry clearly like they

874
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: have a lot of high level guys, but that's one

875
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: where you know the coaching staff, how much juice they have.

876
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting how that plays out. I find the

877
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: AFC North coaching situation fascinating. Harbaugh Tomlin have each won

878
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, Taylor has been to one, and Kevin

879
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: Stefanski is a two time Coach of the Year. And

880
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: I think all fan bases would agree they've been largely

881
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: underwhelmed or frustrated with their coaches in recent years. My

882
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: question is this, how would you rank these four coaches

883
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: on the hot seat are right now and Secondly, how

884
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: would you rank them as potential candidates if they hit

885
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: the market. I personally believe three of the four would

886
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 1: quickly quickly get another job. I think Zach Taylor would

887
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: clearly be the last guy. I think Stefanski, who has

888
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: not had a good year, been really weird the last

889
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: couple of years, is really highly thought of. I think

890
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: people would blame the owner. I think the first two guys,

891
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the New York Giants would be all over

892
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: either one. The New York Giants John Marrow would cut

893
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: off like his pinky tote, hire one of those two

894
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: guys to be his coach right now so their market.

895
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: They would be hired so fast you your head would spin.

896
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: I think Stefanski, I don't know if he'd be one

897
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: hundred percent locked, but I think someone would. I don't

898
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: think anyone hire Zach Taylor. Maybe that's not fair, but

899
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: I just think that's just narratives momentum. People just think

900
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: it's all Joe Burrow. I mean, I don't know, so

901
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: I do wonder what if the Steelers do somehow just

902
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: win the division at nine to eight and the Ravens miss.

903
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: Could John Harbaugh be in trouble because again I think

904
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: the Giants would immediately hire the guy. And again part

905
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: of it also is like who else are you hiring?

906
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: Would the Steelers or the Ravens hire Stefanski because he

907
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: can call plays? That's a good question. Well end on

908
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: this speaking of Joe Burrow, speaking of a guy that's

909
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: zoned in, there is I use this analogy with Amen

910
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: ros Saint Brown. Just proving that you will play through

911
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: an injury. The toughness and the mentality that it shows

912
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: the entire team is something that you can't quantify, right,

913
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: And the momentum of Joe Burrow, even his pregame interview

914
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, was like, I make a lot of money,

915
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: I don't care what our record is. If I can play,

916
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: I can play. And clearly when he's playing, he's one

917
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: of the best players in the league. And this week

918
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: they're playing the Bills, who the Bills had a pretty

919
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: embarrassing moment happened to him this week. They cut this guy,

920
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: I forget his first name, his last name is Ingram

921
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: to claim Darius Slay. They claimed Darius Lay. Ingram then

922
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: gets claimed by the Texans, Darius lay quits and Ingram

923
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: is now on the Texans, and Sean McDermott is like,

924
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: what just happened? And McDermott loved that player, but they

925
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: needed to make a roster spot. I don't know exactly

926
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: how it happened. Disastrous personnel move, I mean, embarrassing, there's

927
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: no way around it. And they are fighting for their

928
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: lives just to keep up and have a chance to

929
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: win the division, a division in which they've dominated. Now

930
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: they do well at home, but as my buddy Ethan

931
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: diehard Bills fan, text me today, he said, Bengals kind

932
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: of holess and I think this line of the Bills

933
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: minus six against Joe Burrow t Higgins's back is kind

934
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: of crazy, and like I started looking at it because

935
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: I thought, listen, like they don't they're four and eight. Well,

936
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: the other two teams are chasing are six and six.

937
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: One of those two teams is gonna lose, and especially

938
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: if it's an ugly game that there's those teams could

939
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: lose to anybody at any time. So if you just

940
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: run the table, which would be possible if you win

941
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: this week, and it's been kind of a weird year

942
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: for the Bills, and then they had that moment this

943
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: week they cut a guy that they would not have

944
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: cut if they didn't want to claim a guy who

945
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play for them and then just quits

946
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: and retires. That rattles the front office coaching staff because

947
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: someone in that organization, especially if it wasn't a coach,

948
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: is pounding the table. Darius Slays an upgrade, which is insane.

949
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: He just got bench for a terrible defense and just

950
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: it's it's that could rattle you. The Bengals come in

951
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: with nothing to lose their quarterbacks back to Higgins's back.

952
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: It would not shock me. You watch Shoe Burrow throw

953
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. He's comfortable playing this team like

954
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: they have kind of dominated. The Bills beat him a

955
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: lot over the years. I'm excited to watch Burrow play

956
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: and they win. Don't let the Bengals get hot and

957
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor kind of move up that ranking. The volume