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Speaker 1: This is the Hoddlehilo.

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Speaker 2: Every Thursday from noon to two.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to the Huddle.

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Speaker 4: We're live from Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Just a one

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Speaker 4: hour huddle today.

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Speaker 3: Here's what's in store for you.

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Speaker 4: Michael Bumpus, Dave Wyman, and myself Stacy Ross are going

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Speaker 4: to be joined by Jaren Reed in just a couple

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Speaker 4: of minutes as practice wraps up. H Jalen Darden is

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Speaker 4: going to join us after that, at twelve fifteen, we're

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Speaker 4: going to take an opponent preview. We'll look at the

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Speaker 4: rams as this team gets ready to head to Sofi.

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Speaker 3: JB.

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Speaker 4: Long is joining us at twelve thirty, and then the

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Speaker 4: voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, is joining us at

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Speaker 4: twelve forty five to wrap up final thoughts. Rather than

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Speaker 4: look back just at that Bears game, what we're gonna

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Speaker 4: do is take a look back at the season itself.

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Speaker 4: This is, unfortunately the final game Seattle is going to

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Speaker 4: be playing this year.

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Speaker 3: And whyman, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 4: They could still get to ten wins in Mike McDonald's

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Speaker 4: first season. Unfortunately that will not come with a trip

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Speaker 4: to the playoffs. Do you consider though the year a success,

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Speaker 4: and if so, in what ways?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think everybody's disappointed, right, you know, and when

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Speaker 5: you have to rely on other teams to win, it's

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Speaker 5: I don't know, the notion that you could win ten

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Speaker 5: games and not getting the playoffs kind of frustrating a

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Speaker 5: little bit, but you know so, But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think once the sting of not making the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: especially if they win this game, I think it's You're

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Speaker 5: going to look back on this as a pretty interesting year.

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Speaker 5: I mean, lots lots of adversity, you know that they

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Speaker 5: had to overcome. They had a center that retired, They

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Speaker 5: really never got their offensive line right, we had Abe

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Speaker 5: Lucas was hurt. We were down to our fourth string

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Speaker 5: right tackle. I mean, there was a lot of things.

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Speaker 5: You had the wrong two inside linebackers in there for

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Speaker 5: half the season. So yeah, I mean I felt pretty

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Speaker 5: good about this. I'm trying to keep it positive, but

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Speaker 5: it is incredibly disappointing that they didn't get a chance

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Speaker 5: to get in, especially if they have a chance to

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Speaker 5: win ten games.

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Speaker 1: Which they do.

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Speaker 3: Bump.

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Speaker 4: What about you similar questions just kind of how you

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Speaker 4: see the season as a whole, whether you feel like

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Speaker 4: they can walk away proud of something.

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Speaker 3: What's left to work on?

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Speaker 6: Well, you're proud of the turnaround this defense had, for sure,

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Speaker 6: and the linebackers that you have hopefully will be here

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Speaker 6: for the next two to three seasons minimum. Looking to

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Speaker 6: see if Ernest Jones it gets extended. That's gonna be

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Speaker 6: big this offseason. Yeah, I think that's what you can

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Speaker 6: be proud of. You're more disappointed on the ups and

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Speaker 6: downs of the offense. Man, It's like they could never

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Speaker 6: just be on a steadiest sin. You start off three

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Speaker 6: games and you're good, and then things start to happen.

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Speaker 6: But at least you can identify the problem. I think

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Speaker 6: the biggest problem, and I think that is what makes

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Speaker 6: me optimistic about the offseason, is that, all right, we

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Speaker 6: pretty much know what the biggest problem is. How are

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Speaker 6: you going to address it? But then there's contracts and stuff.

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Speaker 6: So I would say that this season for me, I

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Speaker 6: said the other week with satisfactory, I'd said nineteen games

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Speaker 6: they'd win this year. Didn't know if they'd make the

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Speaker 6: playoffs or not. But when you get the taste and

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Speaker 6: they tease you would a playoff appearance.

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Speaker 3: That's why I heard so much, Wyman. It was great

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Speaker 3: to see.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, as Bump mentioned, the defense improved and Mike McDonald,

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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator for the Ravens formerly Michigan, was brought here

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Speaker 4: to fix the defense. So check, is it fair to

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Speaker 4: say he stays here by figuring out how to fix

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Speaker 4: the offense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think that that's that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 5: And I think that what you're referencing, Bomp is offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We did a thing on our show, like you know,

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Speaker 5: and Bob had a you know, like a quiz, you know,

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Speaker 5: what's what are the four things that are the biggest problem?

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Speaker 4: Sure, Jared Reid joining us right now, and we will

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Speaker 4: get back to this conversation a little bit later in

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Speaker 4: the show when Steve Brabel joins.

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Speaker 3: Us at twelve forty five, we'll jump right back in

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Speaker 3: Jared Reid joining us right now. Hey, Jaren, how's it

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Speaker 3: going fantastic?

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Speaker 4: Obviously, it's a tough one for you guys heading into

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Speaker 4: a week in which you could get ten wins with

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Speaker 4: a victory over the Rams, but the playoffs aren't in

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Speaker 4: line anymore. As a player, what's your mentality entering this one?

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Speaker 7: We get to true you light Championship.

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Speaker 1: Football, Jared off every time you get a sack.

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Speaker 5: Now you got the And when you first did that,

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Speaker 5: I think it was because Michael Bennett was being introduced

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Speaker 1: I did it last year, you did it last year

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Speaker 7: Okay, so I think the first time I did it

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Speaker 7: because that was like the tenth tenth year reunion for

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Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. I say, I thought it'd be cool

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Speaker 7: to do it then. And at the end, you know,

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Speaker 7: it kind of takes some talk with Mike, like I

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Speaker 7: said previously before.

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Speaker 1: Take your own.

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Speaker 4: You're like, it feels too good to do.

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Speaker 3: I can't give this up.

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Speaker 5: You're just doing two though, right to do the fatal

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for coming out and saying just go get

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Speaker 6: the tenth WAM because I'm sitting there going back to

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Speaker 6: with these listeners and they're like, oh, they should lose

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Speaker 6: the game ago, y'all don't understand how this works, like

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Speaker 6: no more goals out on the football field, ter And yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 6: So I appreciate that too. How's it feel, man, big

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Speaker 6: cat get snub for the Pro Bowl? Man that got

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Speaker 6: me just this furious man. He's having something a great year.

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Speaker 6: Has he talked about that?

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Speaker 7: Have y'all acknowledged it or is it just well, you know,

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Speaker 7: of course the emotions are there. I thought he deserved

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Speaker 7: it as well as first team All Pro whenever that

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Speaker 8: Was lost.

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Speaker 4: When you guys kind of walk away from this season.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the things that you can definitely

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Speaker 4: the improvement for the defense. I mean, starting out obviously

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Speaker 4: did it. You're finishing out as I think a top

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Speaker 4: ten scoring defense, I think nearing top ten and yards

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Speaker 4: certainly total. But what to you clicked like for you

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Speaker 4: your own journey this year? What clicked and when did

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Speaker 4: it click for you?

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Speaker 7: I think settling into the scheme and what they were

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Speaker 7: asking us to do. You antime, you bring a new

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Speaker 1: A lot of moving parts.

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Speaker 7: It's a lot of communication and sometimes you know, training

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Speaker 7: with loud bullets flying and our tickets a little minute.

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Speaker 7: You know, we had to change some pieces to the puzzle,

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Speaker 7: and I think you know when we put it together,

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Speaker 7: you know, everybody was yelling and rocky.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jared, you guess we're talking about this before you

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Speaker 5: came in faced a lot of adversity this year. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you guys overcame a lot of stuff and part of

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Speaker 5: You guys got to be particularly proud of that. Did

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Speaker 5: you did you feel that? I mean, I think for

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Speaker 5: most football players, when you get adversity, you get like

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Speaker 7: That was that the case, Yeah, definitely, because we knew

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Speaker 7: what kind of defense that we could be and we

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Speaker 7: made those changes and we started rocking. Man, I think

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Speaker 7: everybody you know could taste and feel it. But I

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Speaker 7: think you know, we set the standard from here and

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Speaker 7: from now on of this defense needs to look and

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Speaker 7: you know, just everything, the standards we hold, the way

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Speaker 7: get better from here. I definitely think that, you know,

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Speaker 7: we could be the number one defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, still got a game on Sunday. But you're a veteran,

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Speaker 6: so you know what you like to do. What What

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Speaker 6: does an off season look like for you? Like your

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Speaker 6: first week? What does that look like for you?

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Speaker 7: All kind of tough. It's like, get out of here

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Speaker 7: to see my kids and uh, you know, just chill

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Speaker 7: out with them. Yeah, usually watch football. Course i'd rather

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Speaker 7: be playing. I think we should still be playing. But

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Speaker 7: you know, neither here nor there.

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Speaker 3: This is a random question.

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Speaker 4: I know that for certain players they cut out a

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Speaker 4: lot dietary restrictions and stuff all the season. Is that

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Speaker 4: the same for defensive lineman?

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Speaker 3: What are you to eat? What's first up?

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Speaker 7: I want to get a double cheese burder. I gotta

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Speaker 7: have beef bacon because I don't eat four. I want

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Speaker 7: a double cheese burder and the like, probably like some

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Speaker 7: bacon cheese fries.

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Speaker 4: I just want something just so this would be like

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Speaker 4: the most immaculate cheap day ever. Like I'm going to

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Speaker 4: go through four drive throughs.

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Speaker 7: Man that part like eat some fast food. He got

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Speaker 7: worried about fried food and caps? Excuse me?

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Speaker 3: We got it done? Button, We're going in.

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Speaker 8: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever look at do you ever look at

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Speaker 3: other players?

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Speaker 3: Is it younger players or maybe offensive lineman? Like who

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Speaker 3: do you look at? Where you're like? You can eat what?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 8: The dvs for sure?

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Speaker 3: Eating whatever pizza and can and stuff. That's exactly that

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Speaker 3: type of body.

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Speaker 4: I already know that Rek Wallan's eating a whole pizza

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Speaker 4: by himself.

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Speaker 8: I can just five pounds, that's the crazy part.

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Speaker 5: So how disciplined are you as far as that goes,

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Speaker 5: as far as the eating?

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Speaker 1: I mean, or do you really really stick to that?

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Speaker 5: Or is there like one day a week where you

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Speaker 5: allow yourself to Yeah, so.

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Speaker 7: Schedule, I'm on now it's on Tuesday. It's a Saturday.

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Speaker 7: I'm meaning pretty good. Monday is like a day where

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Speaker 7: I could eat what kind of like something different. I

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Speaker 7: don't try to do too bad because I don't want

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Speaker 7: no body inflammation on my stuff or anything. So those

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Speaker 4: I only have like one big cheat day a month

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't care all right now. So I'm so

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Speaker 4: I know that your primary choice would be in the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: So that's fantastic, he is, Jaren Reed.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it all right,

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Speaker 4: Michael Bumpus, and Stacey. You're o special teamer Jalen Dard

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Speaker 4: We're also going to have JB Long jumping on for

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Speaker 8: Going y'all doing?

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Speaker 3: What's your uh, what's your transition and journey here?

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Speaker 5: You're running up there, You're going full speed. I mean,

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Speaker 7: It's definitely been a challenge just coming to the league,

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Speaker 2: Also returning myself.

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Speaker 6: And I tell people pump returning might be like the

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Speaker 6: good because you attracted, you were smooth back there. When

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Speaker 7: A while, honestly, Like I don't even know when to

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Speaker 8: My coach kind of like explained.

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Speaker 2: Where are you from?

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Speaker 6: So when I was growing up in Cali, we played

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Speaker 2: That's where I realized I could make somebody mess all this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we used to call it hot ball, so you

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Speaker 8: But yeah, yes, sir, definitely. That definitely did help me though.

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Speaker 4: For sure playing all those years, I hear Baldwin was

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Speaker 7: The statue that he has is not as big, but

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Speaker 8: Honestly, what are.

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Speaker 5: The rules for you as far as part return goes?

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Speaker 5: You know, and I know it's changed. It used to

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Speaker 1: But as far as Jay goes.

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Speaker 7: For when I say you just got a new football,

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Speaker 7: sometimes you don't need the kids punts. Sometimes you don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get the ball to the offense.

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Speaker 2: My spells team coach like bump, get the ball to

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Speaker 7: That's what Tom Brady used to tell me that That's

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Speaker 7: That's the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: Man. You got a bunch of records in college.

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Speaker 6: Man, what's your What was your favorite aspect of being

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Speaker 7: Say inside more, But like since I've been in the league,

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Speaker 7: But wherever you put me. I mean, I'm just trying

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Speaker 8: For sure.

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Speaker 8: But other than that, I was in the slot. That's

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Speaker 2: Can I easily get the ball from the slot too?

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Speaker 1: Too?

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Speaker 4: Can I ask both of you a question about returning

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Speaker 4: It's more like a trip down memory lane, bump. You

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Speaker 4: Like walk me through how it felt, what happened.

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Speaker 7: More so, just like it's really those when your your

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Speaker 8: With planning your rules, if that makes sense. I don't

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Speaker 6: Let me switch it up. Now, I don't like I'm

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Speaker 7: I'll probably say my rookie year verse Chicago, I had

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Speaker 7: the only thing I can do is get vertical. I

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Speaker 7: can't reverse few I can't because we in the league.

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Speaker 7: Everybody fast, so things like that. But uh, Chicago probably

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Speaker 7: was my best return.

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Speaker 5: Both you guys are crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing Dave.

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Speaker 4: What was your craziest moment in a game where someone

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Speaker 4: would be like that guy's insane?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean yeah, there were some explosives and things

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Speaker 5: like that. It was always towards an offensive guard because

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Speaker 5: offensive lineman cheap they hold.

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Speaker 3: Didn't you intercept Marino?

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's all right.

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Speaker 3: Jalen, thank you for joining us. Have fun out there

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Speaker 3: on Sunday. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere this This is the huddle every Thursday

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Speaker 4: from noon to two on Seattle Sports. Joining us now

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Speaker 4: on the huddle for an opponent preview. It's JB long

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Speaker 4: Rams play by play man, JB.

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Speaker 3: How's it going?

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Speaker 10: Hi fancy, Hi bomb, Happy New Year to you.

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to start JB with a few players that

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Speaker 4: we're going to see in this one that we normally wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like Jimmy g at quarterback instead of Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 4: Tell me a bit about Jimmy and any other important

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Speaker 4: changes ahead of this one in terms of even some

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Speaker 4: play calling duties.

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Speaker 1: Maybe.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Here we are Thursday of game week, and I'm still

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Speaker 10: trying to wrap my mind around the fact that the Rams,

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Speaker 10: by virtue of winning last week, earned the right to

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Speaker 10: start Jimmy Garoppolo at quarterback against the Seattle Seahawks and

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Speaker 10: spared themselves the tension of rooting for the forty nine

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Speaker 10: ers on Monday night football against the Lions. We know

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Speaker 10: that didn't go San Francisco's way, so maybe this is

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Speaker 10: the way it was all meant to be. But he's

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Speaker 10: been a solid person, a solid backup. I think you

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Speaker 10: supported Matthew Stafford really nicely all those years, though he

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Speaker 10: tormented the ram you know, with Kittle and Tebow and McCaffrey.

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Speaker 10: It'll be interesting to see what he looked like in

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Speaker 10: orange for the first time at full speed, albeit in

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Speaker 10: what will probably resemble more of like a preseason type

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Speaker 10: game plan, at least offensively against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Hey, JB.

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Speaker 5: You got a couple of great rookies on defense, Braiden

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Speaker 5: Fisk and Jared Verse.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about what those two guys. Verse just looks like.

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Speaker 5: He's been playing in the league for ten years, But yeah,

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Speaker 5: just tell us about the impact those two have had

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Speaker 5: and how was that unexpected or is that something that

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Speaker 5: they thought they were going to get out of those

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Speaker 5: two young fellows.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean Rams colored lenses here, but I actually

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Speaker 10: think Jared versus closer to being the defensive player of

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Speaker 10: the Year league wide than any other rookie is to

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Speaker 10: be NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year relative to him.

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Speaker 10: That's how consistent and productive and dominant he's been, and

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Speaker 10: I think is nearest competition might be in house in Fisk.

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Speaker 10: There's a lot of pre and post draft narrative about

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Speaker 10: what a tandem they were and from the Rams standpoint,

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Speaker 10: why it made sense to trade up in the second

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Speaker 10: round to get both, because Brayden had the potential to

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Speaker 10: be a force multiplier for Jared. I think a lot

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Speaker 10: of that just felt like April and may fluff, But

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Speaker 10: now that I've seen it in person in real time,

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Speaker 10: I get it. I think they actually do compliment each

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Speaker 10: other in that way. And I think if you zoom

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Speaker 10: out the fact that the Rams just put together a

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Speaker 10: sixteen game regular season with far more balanced and dominant

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Speaker 10: pressure than they had in the last year of the

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Speaker 10: Aaron Donald era, that they could retire the greatest player

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Speaker 10: in franchise history and get better on defense. I'm not

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Speaker 10: sure there's any words that I could offer you that

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Speaker 10: would say more about the impact of those two than

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Speaker 10: then that reality.

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Speaker 2: JB. I forgive you.

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Speaker 6: I said we couldn't be friends if we got into

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Speaker 6: this situation. But I've healed and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Ready to move on, so that's fine.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, Obviously there's a rough start to the season

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Speaker 6: for the Rams. Did you all did you feel like

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Speaker 6: this whole time, if they were to just get healthy

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Speaker 6: and be consistent, you would be in this in this

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Speaker 6: moment or was there a game or two where it

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Speaker 6: clipped and you started to believe in the rams chances

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Speaker 6: of making the playoffs again?

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Speaker 10: I mean, I think that's it at the fundamental level.

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Speaker 10: You know how it is, bump. You build a team

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Speaker 10: in an offseason with a vision in mind for how

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Speaker 10: they're going to play and what they might be. What

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Speaker 10: your floor is and what your ceiling is. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 10: for the first month, the Rams were playing right on

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Speaker 10: their floor, if not below it, because of the personnel

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Speaker 10: they were missing. I'll say this, other than one game

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Speaker 10: against Buffalo, I still don't know that we've seen the

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Speaker 10: ceiling with respect to the offense in particular, but getting

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Speaker 10: the offensive line intact, getting Cooper Cup and Pukainakua in

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Speaker 10: the mix, those were essential ingredients. And so it would

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Speaker 10: have been a real shame to have to bail on

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Speaker 10: this season and even this window of time with Stafford

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Speaker 10: at the switch before you got to look at what

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Speaker 10: the real potential of the twenty four group that you've

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Speaker 10: built was capable of. I'm also sensitive, especially speaking to

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Speaker 10: your audience, to acknowledge there is very very little separate

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Speaker 10: in the Seattle Seahawks and the Los Angeles Rams at

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Speaker 10: twenty four. The reason the Rams are where they are

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Speaker 10: is because of some short yardage defense, a fourth down stop,

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Speaker 10: and a thirty nine yard game winning touchdown in overtime.

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Speaker 10: If you switch any of that, the Seahawks are the

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Speaker 10: Rams and the Rams are the Seahawks, and you're probably

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Speaker 10: playing this one for all the markets.

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Speaker 4: Jab I want to take like a macro. Look at

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Speaker 4: the answer you just gave, because I definitely have this

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Speaker 4: feeling with the Rams of like they can't keep getting

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Speaker 4: away with this, like for another year they're entering the

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Speaker 4: by you know, at five hundred or with a losing

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Speaker 4: record or struggling, and then they turn it around. I

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Speaker 4: mean they started this season was it one in four?

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Speaker 4: I mean I was convinced. I was like, man, it's

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Speaker 4: just it's not their year. They're going to trade Cooper Cup,

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Speaker 4: maybe they'll move on from Stafford. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 4: really such a shame, and then they end up turning

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Speaker 4: it around. And I really appreciate your point about like, look,

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Speaker 4: these were some of the specific plays that kind of

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Speaker 4: saved their season and ended up winning them these games.

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Speaker 4: But if you were to take a step back and

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Speaker 4: look at the big picture of who the Rams are,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's coaching, maybe it's a player or two, but

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Speaker 4: is there a reason that for a second consecutive year

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Speaker 4: they've done this. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: His name is Sean McVay, and he's the winningest coach

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Speaker 10: in Rams history. And I've spent much of my tenure

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Speaker 10: talking about the Aaron Donald window and how long you

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Speaker 10: can keep that open, and then the Matthew Stafford window

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Speaker 10: and how long you can keep that open. I think

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Speaker 10: this year, as much as any, gave evidence to the

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Speaker 10: fact that what the Rams are living in right now,

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Speaker 10: it's a Sean McVay window. Because when you have a

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Speaker 10: head coach who can impact scheme and play calling just

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Speaker 10: as much as culture, I think that has stained power.

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Speaker 10: And I think this year is probably hard to argue

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Speaker 10: as Sean mcvay's best season, but I think it was

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Speaker 10: his most complete because he touched all three phases offense, defense,

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Speaker 10: and special teams, and he matured in a way in

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Speaker 10: embracing this as a surprisingly productive and clutch defensive team

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Speaker 10: and a much improved special teams group collectively than anyone anticipated.

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Speaker 10: And instead of being slow or reticent to embrace that,

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Speaker 10: instead of being frustrated at the offense's inability to put

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Speaker 10: up thirty and lead the way, he just settled into

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Speaker 10: what this team was and gave them the time and

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Speaker 10: the space to win games with takeaways and stops and interceptions,

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Speaker 10: and to do just enough on offense to carry them

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Speaker 10: to the finish line. Now, I'd say that in all humility,

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Speaker 10: and I think he would too. The way they got

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Speaker 10: to ten wins was largely decided by one possession games,

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Speaker 10: and in the NFL that flip flops year to year,

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Speaker 10: the pendulum swing. So while they won the West by

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Speaker 10: being clutch, they know internally that that is not sustainable

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Speaker 10: and it's not the way they're going to be able

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Speaker 10: to advance.

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Speaker 9: In January, Hey, JB.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about Ernest Jones.

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Speaker 5: I remember hearing from you know, some of the players

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Speaker 5: down there that he was kind of the leader and

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Speaker 5: the defenses in his hands. I think Aaron Donald said

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Speaker 5: something about that. And then he gets.

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Speaker 1: Traded away and now here.

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Speaker 5: In Seattle, I mean, he's pretty much his arrival here

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Speaker 5: is pretty much coincided with the defense entirely turning around.

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Speaker 5: Tell us about Ernest Jones and what he meant there.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's hard not to respect and admire that and

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Speaker 10: to celebrate that. From the day Ernest was drafted until

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Speaker 10: the one he was traded, I never heard any RAMS

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Speaker 10: employee say a foul word about him. I mean, he

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Speaker 10: was one of the most highly thought of individuals in

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Speaker 10: my time with the organization, and the only thing he

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Speaker 10: was was a victim of their team building model, which

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Speaker 10: fortunately does not often have ever include investing in off

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Speaker 10: ball linebackers. And I'll give you another familiar example, and

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Speaker 10: that's Bobby Wagner. So I think was pro football focuses

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Speaker 10: number one greated off ball linebacker in his one year

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Speaker 10: in Los Angeles, and that was the worst Rams year

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Speaker 10: by record under Sean McVay. That wasn't Bobby's fault. I

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Speaker 10: think it just influences their thinking on what influence is

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Speaker 10: winning most, and with him coming up on a contract

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Speaker 10: year with some knee injury history, I think they just

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Speaker 10: made the very hard decision to allocate their resources differently

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Speaker 10: and to hopefully do right by him as the single

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Speaker 10: season tackling leader and captain to help him find his

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Speaker 10: next right home sooner than later. Now maybe that was

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Speaker 10: a two step process. We'll see whether he sticks in

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Speaker 10: Seattle beyond this season. But there's no one wearing royal

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Speaker 10: and soul who thinks anything other than good for Ernest

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Speaker 10: Jones for proving everyone wrong and having the season he

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Speaker 10: did in twenty four is.

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Speaker 3: Play by play man JB.

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Speaker 9: Long.

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Speaker 8: JB.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for taking the time, man, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year, and you Sorr.

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Speaker 10: We always have these conversations while I'm stuck on the

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Speaker 10: four O five. But such his life here in the

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Speaker 10: South plan.

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Speaker 3: No, thanks, JB.

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Speaker 4: Bump, I'm glad that you and JB could save your friendship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's uh.

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Speaker 3: Some things are bigger than the game.

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Speaker 2: They are, and I got to work with him, so

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Speaker 2: keep it good.

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Speaker 4: Another play by play man, Steve Rabel Boys the Seahawks,

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Speaker 4: joins us.

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Speaker 3: Next.

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Speaker 4: This This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two.

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Speaker 10: On Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to the Huddle getting you guys ready

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Speaker 4: for the Seahawks regular season finale. The voice of the Seahawks,

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Speaker 4: Steve Rabel, joining us. Now, Hey, Rabes, how's.

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Speaker 9: It going good? Guys? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Fantastic?

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Speaker 4: I think a question that I'll probably ask my co

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Speaker 4: host as we wrap this up later in about ten

670
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: minutes is what I'm going to throw to you now,

671
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: which is what to you is the biggest thing you

672
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 4: learned about the Seahawks so far this year?

673
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 9: Oh gosh, let's let's start with a nice softball.

674
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, just an easy one.

675
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: Let's go, l let's go wake up?

676
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: Man?

677
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 9: What have I learned about this?

678
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 8: Well?

679
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 9: That's you know, that's that's a very big question. There's

680
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 9: a couple of things I think that we learned and

681
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 9: and I don't know if it's something that was you know.

682
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 9: I mean for those of us who who've kind of

683
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 9: been around this game for a long time or who

684
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 9: have played, the expectation is as professionals, words like you know,

685
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 9: I don't quit, and those kinds of things don't really

686
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 9: need to be said out loud. Your job is to

687
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 9: go out there and perform every week until the season

688
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 9: is over. But this team, the swings up and down

689
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 9: the start and then losing five of six, then coming

690
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 9: back and winning four straight, and then dropping two straight,

691
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 9: the swings have been such that, you know, it would

692
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 9: test anybody, coaches, general managers, players, their faith in what

693
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 9: they're doing, their faith in themselves. I never have had

694
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 9: the sense this entire season that anybody had any question,

695
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 9: at least those inside the organization had any questions about

696
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 9: where they were going and the direction they were going

697
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 9: in and how they were going to get there. And

698
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 9: it was just a matter of can we do it

699
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 9: all this year? It's going to take maybe a little

700
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 9: longer than that. So I think the philosophy is sound.

701
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 9: The basis that this team has built on the players.

702
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 9: The core of this team is sound, and that's not

703
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 9: a surprise really, That's what you expect out of the

704
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 9: Seahawks that we've been around for the last how many years,

705
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 9: especially with you John Schneider at the top and first

706
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 9: beat and now Mike. So you know, I just I

707
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 9: couldn't be more positive about the direction that the team

708
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 9: is heading in. I don't know if that's something that

709
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 9: had to be learned, but it sure is. It is

710
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 9: nice to kind of feel that way, even though, yes,

711
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 9: I know the season's coming to an end and all

712
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 9: that stuff, but but I just feel, really, I feel

713
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 9: really good about that.

714
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Rabs.

715
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 5: You got a chance to talk to Mike McDonald every week.

716
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 5: Would you say that everything was pretty steady or did

717
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: you see him evolve as far as you know, some

718
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: of the things that he talked about and his philosophies

719
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 5: and things like that. Did you kind of see him

720
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 5: grow into being a head coach? What were some of

721
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 5: the things you noticed about him his personality?

722
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 9: Well, it's the first thing you talked about there, Dave.

723
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 9: His steadiness. You know, we've all been around a lot

724
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 9: of coaches over time, and you know, some coaches can

725
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 9: be you know, kind of wild swings back and forth,

726
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 9: and some coaches can be you know, se seemingly kind

727
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 9: of a dour most of the time.

728
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: Uh.

729
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 9: And you know, Hardley Krack a smile. They're all business.

730
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 9: You know, this guy is a he's first of all,

731
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 9: he's a young guy, and so he identifies I think

732
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 9: with the player is certainly more than guys as old

733
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 9: as day than men identify with them. He can you know,

734
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 9: he speaks in their language. He understands what is attractive

735
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 9: to football players when it comes to an organization and

736
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 9: how they can become better players. Let's face it, they're pros.

737
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 9: So you become a better player, you play on a

738
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 9: winning team, you have a chance at maximizing what few

739
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 9: years you have in this league. And I'm talking about

740
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 9: not only recognition but pay as well, because that's part

741
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 9: of the deal. So yeah, that steadiness has been I

742
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 9: think they're all along and I think his ability to say, hey,

743
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 9: this isn't good enough and we're going to make some

744
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 9: changes right now. Yes, we're midway through the season, and

745
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 9: that's okay because I know we can be better and

746
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 9: here's how we can be better, and between he and

747
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 9: John and the personnel staff, they figured that out and

748
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 9: they got themselves a couple of guys. I'm thinking on

749
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 9: defense as we talk about a lot right in the

750
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 9: middle of the defense that have really done their jobs

751
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 9: and done them well. So yeah, he's been steady, but

752
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 9: he's also willing to make hard decisions and make him

753
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 9: on the spot. And I think you've got a great

754
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 9: future ahead of him, and I expect it's going to

755
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 9: be here for a long time.

756
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: Graves, what's the significance of this game?

757
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 6: I know there's no postseason obviously, but you still can

758
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: win ten and I think it's important they go out

759
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 6: on a high note.

760
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: What do you think their approach is for this one.

761
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 9: I think that's the thing that as I remember too

762
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 9: when I played, you know, and it was I know,

763
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 9: it was back in the dark ages, but you always

764
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 9: felt better if you could win that final game. And

765
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 9: this goes back to every level that you play. It

766
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 9: just makes the off season better. You feel better about

767
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 9: yourself when you're not saying darn, you know, we just

768
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 9: lost that game and we ended on a bad note,

769
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 9: and now I got to live with this for the

770
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 9: entire offseason until we get started next year. So that

771
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 9: part of it is just great. It just makes you

772
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 9: feel better. It also gets you off on the right foot.

773
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 9: We're in twenty twenty five now. The next time we

774
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 9: play football after this, for when it counts, is still

775
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 9: in this calendar year. So we're starting this new year,

776
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 9: but hopefully on the right foot by winning a football game.

777
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 9: And oh, by the way, it's double digit wins in

778
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 9: his first year as a head coach. If you can

779
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 9: win this for Mike and for the team ten wins,

780
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 9: that's pretty darn good for a guy just coming in

781
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 9: and making all the changes they made. And oh, by

782
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 9: the way, it's over the Rams if you can beat them,

783
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 9: because we just flat don't like them. So what's not

784
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 9: to like about this whole scenario other than the fact that,

785
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 9: you know, a couple of times this season you had

786
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 9: a chance to take control of your own destiny and

787
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 9: you just weren't able to do it and you had

788
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 9: to depend on, you know, other guys the teams to

789
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 9: do it and they didn't come through for you. That's

790
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 9: the only negative. If the positive is is there's a

791
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 9: lot to be said for going out and winning this game.

792
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: Now, Tyler Lockett is obvious under contract for next season.

793
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: The team's not come out and said like we're moving on.

794
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: But I think that the conversation around Lockett has been, well,

795
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: what's going to happen? I mean, it wasn't the biggest

796
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: year for him, He's getting a little bit older, they've

797
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 4: got wide receivers, and so I think naturally Steve, as

798
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: you know, there are some fans going am.

799
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 3: I watching Tyler Lockett's last game?

800
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: I hoped that we're not, But I was hoping to

801
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: just kind of ask what you've taken away from his

802
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 4: career and just kind of obviously you've talked to him

803
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: a million times, stand up guy, Just tell me a

804
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: bit about Lockett.

805
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: As we wrap this up.

806
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 9: Well, he's just the best, you know, having had the

807
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 9: opportunity to play with large and to probably not appreciate

808
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 9: as good as he really was until toward the end

809
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 9: of his career when the numbers just started stacking up,

810
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 9: and then pretty soon you're talking Hall of Fame for Steve,

811
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 9: and well deserved by the way. Of course, I ran

812
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 9: a lot of clear out routes to help him make

813
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 9: those catches. But still I don't hold any grudges because

814
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 9: of that, but Lockett is you know, I was reading

815
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 9: today in fact, and he is. He is very likely

816
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 9: going to see the team record for catches in a

817
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 9: season to Jackson Smith and Jigba this last game. And

818
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 9: he was the first one to tell Jack's hey, I'm

819
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 9: all for you.

820
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: Do it.

821
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 9: Go break it, break the hundred catch mark and put

822
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 9: your name in the record books. And I had to

823
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 9: look back and see that. Well, Bobby Ingram was one

824
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 9: of the guys that held that record, and then Doug Baldwin.

825
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 9: All terrific people, great football players, but better people. And

826
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 9: that's how you describe Tyler Lockett. You know, I trust

827
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 9: my wife implicitly when it comes to her ability to

828
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 9: judge people, and she absolutely adores Tyler Lockett and has

829
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 9: from day one. So if missus Rabel says he's the guy,

830
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 9: I'm all in favor. Aside from the fact that he's

831
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 9: had some of the most spectacular catches and the steadiest

832
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 9: career of almost any Seahawk that's ever worn that jersey.

833
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 9: So I love the guy to death. I hope it's

834
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 9: not his last year either, if there's a way. I

835
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 9: think as far as the salary cap and all that

836
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 9: stuff has to work out, but I would think, hey,

837
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 9: he still physically got it, so why not bring him

838
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 9: back unless he wants to say, you know, I can

839
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 9: make more money selling houses, which he probably could.

840
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: I wonder what Sharon thinks about me now I'm worried.

841
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm really axed.

842
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, when you retire and go into the Hall

843
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 9: of Fame, we'll we'll have that discussion. Until then, she

844
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 9: asked me. Until then, she asked me. Now, who is

845
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 9: that guy you work with?

846
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 4: He is the voice of the Seahawks, Raves, Thanks so much,

847
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: Happy New Year, Thanks Raves.

848
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 9: Hey guys, Happy New Year to you. See on the

849
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 9: plane there, Big Dave.

850
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: All right, buddy, guys, about a minute left for us here.

851
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: Just to kind of round out, I wanted to get

852
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 4: both of your thoughts. Similarly to how I asked Steve,

853
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask a different version so that you

854
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 4: are stuck making the most of your thirty or so seconds.

855
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 4: But what's sticking with you about the season in terms

856
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: of like I feel good about this, or maybe I've

857
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 4: learned this, or they need to address this, Like what

858
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: will be the message you're kind of telling yourself after

859
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: this year?

860
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: Dave.

861
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: I'll start with you and then Bump give you the

862
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: last word.

863
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it'll be maybe this is just too narrow,

864
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 5: but like conquering the whole offensive line problem, I mean,

865
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 5: I do think that that's and I don't think it's

866
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 5: just the Seahawks that have a problem.

867
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: I think it's league wide.

868
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: You know, we talked to Ray about it all the time,

869
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 5: and it's like it's like an endemic of you know,

870
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 5: there's just not good offensive line playing. It doesn't get

871
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: developed earlier on and yeah, I mean, guys aren't getting

872
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: in three point stances in college. And I feel like that,

873
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 5: you know, if John Schneider can conquer that.

874
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: I mean, and you.

875
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 5: Ask him and he'll say, well, I'll just go out

876
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 5: to the the tree in my backyard, yeah, and pick

877
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 5: a guard or whatever.

878
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I feel like that might be.

879
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

880
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: Might be the one thing.

881
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 8: What do you think, bum?

882
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 2: I think.

883
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 6: Jsin creates good problems and interesting questions that need to

884
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 6: be answered this offseason. If he doesn't have the year

885
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 6: that he has, then what is going to happen during

886
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 6: the offseason might look a bit different. DKs has to

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Speaker 6: get extended. Lockett has to restructure his deal. If Jayson

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Speaker 6: doesn't have that year, then I think we're a bit

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Speaker 6: worried about this room and who's going to be back

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Speaker 6: and just the talent mess.

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Speaker 4: And I like that it's like the good to come

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Speaker 4: from it, but also the domino effect to come from

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Speaker 4: a big year from your young wide receiver. All Right,

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Speaker 4: he is Dave Wyman, Michael Bumps. You can hear more

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Speaker 4: from Bump on the Seahawks pre and postgame show, and

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Speaker 4: then obviously Wyman is going to be on the call

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Speaker 4: with Rapes for Sunday Seahawks regular season finale against the Rams.