1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Mister Gorbachev Junior, tear down that tent. It's one more thing. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm strong Andy, one more thing. I get it. It's 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan related being decisive. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: That's right. We featured on the Raudio Show about a 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: minute and change worth of Ronald Reagan as governor California 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: in the sixties, talking about the protests that we're tearing 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: apart the campuses of California. 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: So, Katie, you're super young. So Ronald Reagan is to 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: you like Calvin Coolidge, just to me, just an historical figure. 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: One that somehow I miss even though I wasn't around. 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So again, we featured some of this audio 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: on the show, but we thought we'd just let's spin 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: the whole thing and dig it along with us. Ronald freakin' Reagan, 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: if you need him. 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: Most people told you for days in advance that if 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: the university sought to go ahead with that instruction, they 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: were going to physically destroy the university. 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 5: Why would you negotiate? 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: Many times, negotiate what is to negotiate? What is the 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 4: university's and public institution. 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: That's right, but the university. 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 5: Its own community and for the community of Berkeley that 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 5: live around. 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 4: All of it began the first time, some of you, 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: who know better and are old enough to know better, 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: let young people think that they had the right to 28 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: choose the laws they would obey as long as they 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 4: were doing it in the name of social protesting. I'm 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: sick and tired of the argument about whether some effort 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 4: to enforce law and order is going to escalate anything 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 4: at all. Plain truth of the matter is this has 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: to stop, and it has to stop like the day 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: before yesterday. I would like to propose that the issue 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 4: is that on the campus is you who are adults, 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: You who are entrusted with those young people and their guidance, 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: have a responsibility to make it plain to them from 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: the very beginning that you yourselves do not tolerate the kind 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: of conduct that has led to the burning of Wheeler 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: Hall that has led the two murders on the campus 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: of UCLA. If you've created an atmosphere on the campus 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: where tell them wants to listen. 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: You are a liar. 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 5: I have read and I have been questioned since I've 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 5: been here about certain demonstrations against my coming, and I 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 5: would like to say just one thing, and to those 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 5: who demonstrate. So I wonder if they have ever asked 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 5: themselves that if they should have the kind of government 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: they apparently seek, no one would ever be able to 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 5: do what they're doing again doing anything. And I have 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: a feeling that if you check closely on some of 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 5: the more militant of those leaders who are advocating violence, 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 5: you find that if you settled whatever issue it is 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: that has them worked up today, they'll be back tomorrow 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 5: morning with another issue. But I think the time has 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 5: come for them to make a choice and to decide 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 5: whether they want to continue to even tolerate these false 58 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 5: prophets in their midst who are, if anything, destroying their 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 5: own community. I don't think that's taking to the streets 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 5: and rioting and disordered has ever solved anything. 61 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: Or ever will. 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: Those who would trade our freedom for the soup kitchen 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: of the welfare state have told us they have a 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: utopian solution of peace without victory. They call their policy accommodation, 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: and they say, if we'll only avoid any direct confrontation 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: with the enemy, he'll forget his evil ways and learn 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: to love us. All who oppose them are indicted as warmongers. 68 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: They say, we offer simple answers to complex problems. But 69 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: perhaps there is a simple answer. Not an easy answer, 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: but simple. If you and I have the courage to 71 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: tell our elected officials that we want our national policy 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: based on what we know in our hearts is morally right, 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: we cannot but buy our security, our freedom from the 74 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: threat of the bomb by committing an immorality so great 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: as saying to a billion human beings now enslaved behind 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: the iron curtain, give up your dreams of freedom, because 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: to save our own skins, we're willing to make a 78 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: deal with your slave mass. Recently, in some places in 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: the nation, there's been a disturbing reoccurrence of bigotry and violence. 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: If I may, from the platform of this organization known 81 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: for its tolerance, I would like to address a few 82 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: remarks to those groups who still adhere to senseless racism 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: and religious prejudice, to those individuals who persist in such 84 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: hateful behavior. If I were speaking to them instead of 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: to you, I would say to them, you are the 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: ones who are out of step with our society. You 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: are the ones who willfully violate the meaning of the 88 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 4: dream that is America and this country. Because if such 89 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: what it stands for will not stand for your conduct. 90 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: There are cities in Michigan art shut up. 91 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: Can you believe that, long before you were born, a 92 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: guy like that could be the two term governor of California. 93 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: I mean it's unthinkable now. 94 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: How how far we have just spiraled down, well. 95 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: Spiral left. But if you're a leged you think it's up. 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: Look around you. You're feeling accommodating today, and I encourage that. 97 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful side of you. But down is corracked down. 98 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful side of you. Yeah, you look around 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: and see all the homeless people and whatnot, rampant. 100 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Crime, bums and junkies. Please. 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing Reagan said in there is that protests 102 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: have never accomplished anything. That's real damn close to true. 103 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: Outside of the Civil rights movement, there's very little to 104 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: show for protesting it. Somehow, maybe because of the Civil 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: rights movement, it's somehow caught on as like a right 106 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: of passage for young people and all that sort of stuff, 107 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: But that's not what really moves the needle on things. 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: It gets a lot of media attention, but there's no 109 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: concrete evidence of it doing much good. Most of the time, well, good. 110 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 6: When I was working for for a previous radio station, 111 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 6: I was going to several different protests that were taking 112 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 6: place in the Bay Area. They sent me to Occupy 113 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: Oakland when they were doing that whole anarchist thing, and 114 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 6: then you know the BLM stuff that happened. 115 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: There were a couple of other ones, and when I. 116 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 6: Was there, I would ask people what they you know, 117 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 6: why are you here? And I got a different answer 118 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 6: from everybody, And nobody really seemed to have one direct message, 119 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 6: and a lot of it they were just there to 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 6: party outside day drinking and it was it was almost 121 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 6: like a get together to hang out. 122 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: There wasn't a message. 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: Well, that's clearly true for a lot of the protesters. 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: She got crazy violent Marxists, and then a whole bunch 125 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: of people that are there to party, and then some 126 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: other factions. 127 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: I guess right. I think it's probably worth parsing the 128 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: very term demonstration. What are you demonstrating, generally speaking, the 129 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: popularity of your idea, or at least that's the intent. 130 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're just demonstrating that you're mad about something, A, 131 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't care, there aren't many of you, and B 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: just because you're mad doesn't mean you're right. So you're 133 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: ostensibly just demonstrating that you have numbers. There are a 134 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: lot of people that agree with me. But if that's 135 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: the case, you have to have a coherent message, and 136 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: the civil rights movement had an extremely coherent message and 137 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: an easy one to understand. These protesters saying Israel needs 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: to stop bombing Gaza. Okay, if it were merely that, 139 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: all right, you know, that's a stance. It's a point 140 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: of view. I haven't to disagree with it, but that's 141 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: a point of view. But it's way, way, way more 142 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: muddled than that, and is overtly pro hamas anti Jew, 143 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: anti Zionist, is just pro Marxism. It's completely muddled. 144 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: Well, right, and yeah, and if you're going to start 145 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: getting into Jews need to die, then obviously you've lost 146 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: any hope of having a majority on your side. 147 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Well, and the what's the reverse of nut picking, nut ignoring, 148 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: nut forgiving. If demonstration on the right takes place and 149 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: there are a handful of lunatic racists, white supremacist Nazis, whatever, 150 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: the entire thing is tarred with their stupidity. Maybe appropriately, 151 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's like the opposite now going 152 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: on in college campuses, the anti Jewish rhetoric, anti Semitism, 153 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: the hatred of the pro Hamas, the pro October seventh 154 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: is overt It's a significant percentage of those people, and 155 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: still you get the media saying, well, it's mostly peaceful. 156 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong about the politics on this. I don't 157 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: think i am, But I'm just surprised that there aren't 158 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: more people taking a lead that are on the left. 159 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: I think if Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, had 160 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: come out with a statement and said, yesterday I saw 161 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: that Jewish kid being turned away from class, we will 162 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: not tolerate that nostalic state of California. That is a crime, 163 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: and it will be punny. I mean, I think that's 164 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: a majority win, even in blue blue California. 165 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, send it in the National Guard. Make sure the 166 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Jewish kids can get to school, get to class and 167 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: without fear for their lives. 168 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: And he could even throw in because he's got to 169 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: in California. I stand up for trans rights, I stand 170 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: up for African American rights, I stand up for gay rights, 171 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: and I stand up for you know, and do that 172 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: whole thing. Yeah, that's a majority position. 173 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: I can't believe in the year twenty twenty four, I 174 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: just had to utter the sentence, we need to do 175 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: something so the Jewish kids can get to the classes safely. 176 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying. Yeah. 177 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: I heard a reporter on an MSNBC saying this morning 178 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: when I was watching, actually said they were going to 179 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: do our Jewish students feeling afraid there. He said, they 180 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: aren't feeling afraid. They are afraid, and for good reason. 181 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: Said the correspondent on MSNBC at one of the campuses. 182 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: That is just so crazy how backwards we've gone. 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: It is and without like a lot of notice from. 184 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: And by our colleges and universities. Right, well, I guess 185 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: that's it.