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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, Happy Wednesday. Welcome to the latest edition

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Speaker 1: of Justin News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon.

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Speaker 1: Reporting to you is always from the nation's capital. Quick

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Speaker 1: programming note, my co host Amanda she's over at the

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Speaker 1: White House.

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Speaker 2: She's the official pool reporter.

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Speaker 1: Today, So until they put a lid on there and

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Speaker 1: President Trump calls it to night, she'll be over there

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Speaker 1: reporting for the whole media. Hopefully she'll join us by

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Speaker 1: the back end of the show. But let's start tonight

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Speaker 1: with some news from Capitol Hill about accountability for those

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Speaker 1: that allegedly helped weaponize the Justice Department, as well as

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Speaker 1: our intel agencies against President Trump.

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Speaker 2: House Judiciary Committee.

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Speaker 1: Chairman Jim Jordan earlier today urged the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: to prosecute one of the former lead attorneys and special

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Speaker 1: consult Jack Smith's office. That's the same office that gave

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Speaker 1: us Arctic Frost of January sixth, the classified documents cases

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Speaker 1: so much more now.

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Speaker 2: That former lead attorney.

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Speaker 1: Is Thomas Windham, who served on Smith's team during his

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Speaker 1: investigation into Trump's alleged mishandling of classified information and his

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Speaker 1: efforts to challenge the twenty twenty presidential election results Chairman.

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Speaker 1: Jordan cited that Wyndham possesses first hand information about the

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Speaker 1: work in Jacksmith's office, and that although he'd been given

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Speaker 1: express authorization by the DOJ, he declined to answer questions

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Speaker 1: during his depositions about topics related to the Judiciary Committee's inquired.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Wyndham pleaded the Fifth Amendment when declining to

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Speaker 1: answer those questions. How about that a federal prosecutor who

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Speaker 1: sought the Fifth Amendment protections against self incrimination. Now, speaking

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Speaker 1: of weaponized justice, we have some more news to report

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Speaker 1: to you regarding former FBI Director James Comy and the

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Speaker 1: DOJ's case against him with the prosecutor overseeing it. The

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Speaker 1: US Attorney for Eastern District of Virginia, Lindsay Halligan, acknowledging

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Speaker 1: in court that the full grand jury never saw the

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Speaker 1: final indictment against Comylligan's mission Kane, during a court hearing

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday in which Komy is seeking the dismissal of

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Speaker 1: that prosecution against the DOJA prosecutor, said that instead of

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Speaker 1: presenting a new indictment to the grand jury after decline

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Speaker 1: to prove one of the counts against Komy, they just

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Speaker 1: bought an altered version to the magistrates courtroom for the

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Speaker 1: Grand Juries.

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Speaker 2: For person to sign.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see what the judge thinks about that, but

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Speaker 1: it could be an interesting twist. I think this is

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Speaker 1: in for a long legal journey.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to some other news involving President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Amanda reported earlier today on justinews dot com that the

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Speaker 1: president is working on a peace deal with Russia to

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Speaker 1: end the war in Ukraine. This deal was born in

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Speaker 1: some secret discussions that occurred in Miami. The Trump administrations

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Speaker 1: quietly prepared a detailed twenty eight point framework aimed at

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Speaker 1: resolving the Russia Ukraine war that's now more than three

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Speaker 1: years old. He crafted it with input from Russian representatives,

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Speaker 1: and it was organized into four sections, ending hostilities in Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: post war, security arrangements, broader European stability, and the future

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Speaker 1: of American ties with both OSCO and Kiev. The proposal

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Speaker 1: is modeled in part on Trump's recent Gaza ceasefire initiative

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Speaker 1: and reflects understandings reach when Trump and Russian President Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin met in Alaska in August. Specific provisions regarding control

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Speaker 1: yet been publicly to go. A special envoy, Steve Whitdkoff,

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Speaker 1: who's been a driving force of these peace negotiations, is

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Speaker 1: overseeing the agreement. You can read more about that over

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Speaker 1: at justin Music On. By the way, a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of military officials left the United States went to Kiev

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Speaker 1: today to try to work on this with the Ukrainian side.

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Speaker 1: There is a lot of optimism. I've been talking to

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Speaker 1: officials in the White House tonight. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: optimism that this could be a breakthrough moment in Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's nine month quest to end the Russia Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to keep you up to speed with Russia.

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Speaker 2: You always got to trust, but verify.

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Speaker 1: So we've got a lot more to be taking a

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Speaker 1: look at one more thing that I want to turn

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Speaker 2: Who, by the way, is deeply involved in history.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of noise being made about congressional stock trading.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Tim Burchett came out earlier to speak on the issue,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't hold back about what he thinks about

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Speaker 1: the ethics and Capitol Hill Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: For years, Congress has been using hard work in American

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Speaker 3: taxpayers money to get rich edgum.

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Speaker 2: It's got to stop.

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Speaker 3: America knows what the heck's going on. Everybody wants to

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Speaker 3: knock Pelosi. Heck, she's not even in the top ten.

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Speaker 3: Get on that unusual whales site. This is pathetic, folks.

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Speaker 3: We all know what's going on. Congress knows what the

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Speaker 3: hell's going on, and it needs to stop. This body

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Speaker 3: two dad gum long, and it's got to stop. This

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Speaker 1: Tim Burchett never mentioned his words, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: people feel the way he does. And earlier today, Congressman

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Speaker 1: Mary Net Miller Meeks sent a letter to the leadership

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Speaker 1: of the House saying, let's have a vote on that

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Speaker 1: Congressional stock band law. And it's getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: cheers on the internet right now. We're very lucky to

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Speaker 1: open our show today with Congress coming Mary att Miller

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Speaker 1: Meeks from a great state alive.

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Speaker 2: What Congress, would be great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 4: It's great to be with you, John, and I guess

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Speaker 4: since I'm from Iowa. Instead of saying it crooked as

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're trying to make something seem that it's not.

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Speaker 4: And whether or not we have special information, we do

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Speaker 4: hear things, we have hearings, we do appropriations, and it

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Speaker 4: leads to perception that Congress has special information. So I am,

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Speaker 4: you know, co sponsoring, fully supportive. From the day I

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Speaker 4: came into Congress, I have not had individual stocks. My

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Speaker 4: husband doesn't have individual stocks. Stock trading by members of

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Speaker 4: Congress should be prohibited. There's ways to be able to,

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Speaker 4: you know, have mutual funds for your retirement assets, just

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Speaker 4: like any other ordinary American citizen has. So I think

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Speaker 4: it's high time we do this. It is long overdue.

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Speaker 4: And to represent a Birchett's point, it's not just speaker Pelosi.

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Speaker 4: She's the one that's the most famous, She's the one

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Speaker 4: that's you know, most realized. But I will say to people,

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Speaker 4: I took a pay cut to come to Congress. I

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Speaker 4: am not going to leave Congress with more money than

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Speaker 4: I had when I came in and you know, when

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Speaker 4: feel that it's not only on toward that it's you

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Speaker 4: know that the perception is that there is a conflict

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Speaker 4: stock trading by members of Congress and their spouses.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let me ask you a couple of questions.

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Speaker 1: Give us an update on what's moving and not moving.

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Speaker 1: I think there's some hearings that are going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think that'll be important. I think Congressman Chairman Brian

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Speaker 1: Style is going to do that. Have you gotten any

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Speaker 4: Well, you know they're supportive of and Brian Styles, as

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Speaker 4: you said, is going to have he's the chair of

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Speaker 4: the House Committee on Administration, so he is he's going

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Speaker 4: to have a hearing. So we're looking forward number one,

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Speaker 4: And as you said, the vast majority of Americans are

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Speaker 4: actually supportive of this, and so there's ways for members

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Speaker 4: other types of uh, you know, other types of asset

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Speaker 4: the other thing I would say is that not only

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Speaker 4: to you know, ending this conflict of interest that members

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's nothing that keeps a member from congres

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Speaker 1: not making individual stocks segings. So you're not harming really

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Speaker 1: addressed in this bill as.

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Speaker 5: Well, right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's important for people to know.

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Speaker 1: I want to turn to something that I think will

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Speaker 1: be the great boomerang of the twenty twenty five congressional finish,

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Speaker 1: and that is Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: I've said for some time.

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Speaker 1: Democrats might want to watch what they wish for in this,

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Speaker 1: but we now know from some reporting we did this

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Speaker 1: Epstein for money years after he was a convicted sex offender. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Hachema Jeffreys is one, but there was a lot of them,

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Speaker 2: How does this story turn in?

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Speaker 1: When do the American people begin to understand the parts

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Speaker 4: Well, first and foremost, we know that this was another

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Speaker 4: weaponization of government. So for four years the Democrats have

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Speaker 4: these files could have been released at any point in time.

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Speaker 4: And so I think what they should have done when

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Speaker 4: has had hearings on this. We've tried to protect the

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Speaker 4: victims who may want to be protected. Some have come forward.

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Speaker 4: There was a meeting yesterday with some of the victims

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Speaker 5: Trump when they went through those emails.

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Speaker 4: We know that Jeffrey Epstein did not like President Trump,

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Speaker 5: And so what did we find out.

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Speaker 4: We found out that Stacy Plastic, representative Plastic, was during

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Speaker 4: he was a convicted felon, convicted of you know, pedophilia,

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Speaker 4: trafficking children. He was a convicted felain, was text messaging

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Speaker 4: she also accepted contributions from him. And this is from

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Speaker 4: a convicted sex offender. I would be returning that money,

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Speaker 4: you know, days ago, weeks ago. I wouldn't have accepted

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Speaker 4: And then further we find information that Hakeem Jeffries was

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Speaker 4: soliciting contributions. Now Hakim Jeffries may be familiar to some

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Speaker 4: their highest ranking Democrat in the House was soliciting contributions. Now,

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein may not have been convicted at that time, however,

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Speaker 4: he was already known and had already gone through trials

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Speaker 6: Well, I think we have to sort of reposture.

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Speaker 6: As we've seen some of these things has materialized.

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Speaker 7: pre nine to eleven state of malaise that were always vigilant,

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Speaker 7: hyper vigilant to threats and red teeming ourselves constantly with

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Speaker 7: the most creative thinkers we can to really challenge our

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Speaker 7: national security experts on what we need to do to

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Speaker 7: protect the American people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thinking as big as our enemies are probably thinking.

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Speaker 1: That's such an important mindset to keep forefront. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of concern about Venezuela. People are seeing the

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Speaker 1: boats being blown out of the water. That's clearly a

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Speaker 1: form of chemical warfare, those drugs coming into target killer people.

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Speaker 1: But there's also worry that well, maybe the United States

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Speaker 1: might strike in Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: Seek regime change.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is going on and what would

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Speaker 1: be the optimum outcome for America with Venezuela given all

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Speaker 1: of our security concerns there.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think there are two things to consider here

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Speaker 7: with regard to these strikes on the Venezuelan boats. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we're going to call in Venezuelan boats for the sake

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Speaker 7: of argument. That's where they depart from. So we're going

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Speaker 7: to say these are Venezuelan boats. But what we know

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Speaker 7: is that Maduro and his regime, through various affiliations with cartels,

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Speaker 7: are allowing for the trafficking of narcotics on their way

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Speaker 7: to the United States. So the President is taking action

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Speaker 7: to prevent that. So drug interdiction on the high seas,

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Speaker 7: We've done this four years, we're doing it in a

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Speaker 7: different way. But the other deal that I think is

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Speaker 7: important to note is the positioning.

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Speaker 6: Of a carrier strike group. And you go, well, is

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Speaker 6: that overkill?

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Speaker 7: Well, we're in the Caribbean basin now with the Ford

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Speaker 7: Strike carrier strike group, and a lot of people might say, well,

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Speaker 7: that's just too much. We're only dealing with cartels. We're

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Speaker 7: dealing with more than that because for the last twenty

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Speaker 7: plus years, we have essentially vacated our neighborhood because we've

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Speaker 7: gone to fight the global war on Terror and we

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Speaker 7: left our neighborhood unguarded. And when we did that, we

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Speaker 7: allowed countries like China and Russia and even Iran an

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Speaker 7: entree into our hemisphere in ways that they've carved out

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Speaker 7: niches that have made conditions more favorable for cartels. So

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Speaker 7: when you see these in the various actors, there's invariably

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Speaker 7: overlap there. And so the President is taking the step

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Speaker 7: of a proactive approach to how.

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Speaker 6: We interdict on the high seas number one.

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Speaker 7: Number two, He's doing it in a way that sends

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Speaker 7: a strong message to nations like China, Russia, Iran and

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Speaker 7: others that we have the capability to guard our hemisphere.

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Speaker 6: We're going to do that.

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Speaker 7: We're engaging with our allies in the region, most notably

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Speaker 7: right now the Cara com regions, that is the Caribbean community,

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Speaker 7: but also Central and South American allies that recognize that

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Speaker 7: China is not good for them, the cartels are not

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Speaker 7: good for them and the American people, and the President

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Speaker 7: is saying we're back. We have recognized that we have

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Speaker 7: left our neighborhood unguarded. We're here to work with you

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Speaker 7: this whole of hemisphere approach to secure our neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: In that hemisphere.

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Speaker 1: We have a little bit of worry about the election

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Speaker 1: in Honduras, who's been a pretty reliable ally the last

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Speaker 1: decade or two, but you have to keep a close

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Speaker 1: eye worry about how that election might turn out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I've got some concerns about the current

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Speaker 7: president there. One of the things that troubled me the

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Speaker 7: most was the anti American rhetoric and the walk up

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Speaker 7: to her election four years ago, and then some of

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Speaker 7: the statements she made immediately after Donald Trump was elected

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Speaker 7: that you know, we were going to expel the military.

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Speaker 6: You know, they were going to expel the military.

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Speaker 7: Out of Honduras, and that's our biggest presence in Central America,

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Speaker 7: our biggest military presidence there.

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Speaker 6: And that kind of rhetoric was troubling.

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Speaker 7: But now we're seeing the candidate from her party essentially

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Speaker 7: saying the same thing.

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Speaker 6: They're they're they're avowed socialists.

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Speaker 7: One of the first things that President Castro did was

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Speaker 7: to change course with relationship with their relationship.

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Speaker 6: With the Taiwan.

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Speaker 7: They expelled the Taiwanese diplomats in favor of recognizing China.

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Speaker 6: That was a departure from what we had before.

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Speaker 7: That's inconsistent with our other really good allies in the

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Speaker 7: in the Hemisphere and in their neighboring countries of Guatemala

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Speaker 7: and El Salvador. And so we have some real problems

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Speaker 7: with that, the anti American rhetoric that emanates from that party,

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Speaker 7: and then also some of the some of the concerns

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Speaker 7: that we have with regard to the conduct of the

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Speaker 7: election itself and making sure that we don't end up

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Speaker 7: in another situation where we have another Maduro type scenario

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Speaker 7: on our hand, and particularly in such close proximity to

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Speaker 7: the United States and adjacent to our allies Plotamol and lsub.

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Speaker 1: So important, real quickly. So we just got thirty seconds left.

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Speaker 1: You voted for the Epstein release files. You've been a

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Speaker 1: tremendous voice for transparency on intelligence matters. Is there anything

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Speaker 1: that this vote will do do give us any insight

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Speaker 1: into what the CIA or other intell agencies might have

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Speaker 1: known about Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, we hope.

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Speaker 7: So we've made that request ourselves and I want to

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Speaker 7: make sure that the American people know that we are

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Speaker 7: here to oversee on their behalf and make sure that

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Speaker 7: nothing like that is out there, and if it is,

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Speaker 7: if there is, it's certainly our job to make sure

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Speaker 7: that it sees the light of day and let the

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Speaker 7: American people know what's taking place there.

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Speaker 1: Pretty important and I know you'll get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of it because you have a record of doing so.

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Speaker 1: Mister Jerman's such a great honor to have you on

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Speaker 1: the show today. Thanks for joining us, Yes, sir, thank you. Yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: great folks. Take out all the good work that the

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Speaker 1: intelligence given be doing. It's in great hands right now,

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Speaker 1: doing really important work.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break while we

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Speaker 2: come back. We're gonna take a.

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Speaker 1: Closure look at the phenomenon of people fleeing blue states

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Speaker 1: for red states. Why now the economies are better there.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. One of those states, Tennessee, and then

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Speaker 1: talk about that they come back by that for these messages.

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Speaker 9: Welcome back, everybody. I am back for fool duty at

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Speaker 9: the White House. And I couldn't miss our next guest

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Speaker 9: because she's going to be discussing the phenomenon of blue

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Speaker 9: state Americans fleeing to red states, especially in the wake

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Speaker 9: of Zoron Mam Dannie's election in New York City. So

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Speaker 9: joining us now to discuss that. As the director for

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Speaker 9: Americans for Prosperity in Tennessee, Tory Eventable. Tory, thanks so

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Speaker 9: much for being.

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Speaker 5: Here, Amanda, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 9: You know, our founding fathers painstakingly tried to build a

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Speaker 9: government where power would not be centralized in the capitol

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Speaker 9: in Washington, d C. That states and local governments would

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Speaker 9: have most of the power. Tennessee is actually man and

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Speaker 9: to do this, and as a result, you've got folks

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Speaker 9: from New York City especially, but all over the country

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Speaker 9: where people feel overburdened by their government coming to Nashville

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Speaker 9: and Tennessee. Tell us about all those folks coming, there

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Speaker 9: is a change in the demographics.

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Speaker 10: Well, it is somewhat changing the demographics. But you know,

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Speaker 10: Tennessee is proof that freedom works. And what we've got

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Speaker 10: going on here is doing us quite well. It's bringing

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Speaker 10: people from all over the country, especially when they're fleeing

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Speaker 10: socialist areas of the country. So we encourage them to come,

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Speaker 10: bring their families enjoy What makes Tennessee great, but also

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Speaker 10: leave the bad policies and bad ideas behind them and

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Speaker 10: fully embrace what it is to be a Tennesseean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, one of the big things that Tennessee has done

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Speaker 1: in its competition to get more people to come there

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Speaker 1: is a very favorable tax code. Talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about Tennessee's approach to taxes and why it draws so

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Speaker 1: many great outsiders to come into the state.

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Speaker 10: Well, Tennessee is one of the income to free states.

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Speaker 10: There's a handful of us. But we also have our

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Speaker 10: property taxes kept pretty well in check. So while Florida

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Speaker 10: or Texas might be really great options for people, our

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Speaker 10: property taxes are actually better in Tennessee.

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Speaker 5: We have mountains in country music.

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Speaker 10: But because we're a sales tax based economy, whenever something

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Speaker 10: goes wrong nationally, our state does better financially than everybody

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Speaker 10: else does because no one else is cheating their taxes.

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Speaker 10: If you spend it, you're paying a sales tax, and

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Speaker 10: there is no income tax.

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Speaker 5: In fact, it's constitutionally banned in our state.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I want to ask you, I know the demographics

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Speaker 9: of national Nashville has had a Democrat mayor for as

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Speaker 9: long as I can remember, but it's a unique kind

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Speaker 9: of Democrat. Maybe some might consider those types of Democrats

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Speaker 9: to be more moderate. But are you concerned that folks

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Speaker 9: from New York City who maybe are a little reticent

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Speaker 9: to leave their Democrat voting policies behind, are going to

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Speaker 9: shift things politically, especially in places like Nashville or Chattanooga

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Speaker 9: or Memphis or some of these blue leaning cities.

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Speaker 10: So we do have blue holes in our red state,

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Speaker 10: but we have a Republican supermajority trofecta which pretty much

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Speaker 10: protects us for many of the bad ideas when we

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Speaker 10: get the very liberal mayor of Nashville. I myself of

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Speaker 10: a native Nashvilleian, so I hate the idea of some

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Speaker 10: of the things that have been happening in our state,

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Speaker 10: especially in these bigger cities. But you know, there's plenty

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Speaker 10: of places that touch Nashville, And if you are fleeing

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Speaker 10: socialism and you want freedom and opportunity, there's plenty of

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Speaker 10: places where you can be close to Nashville and away

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Speaker 10: from their bad policies as well.

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Speaker 1: So important, all right, there are lots of things that

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Speaker 1: Tennessee is doing to innovate policies. And I've always said

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Speaker 1: the state capitals, particularly the red state capitals, tend to

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Speaker 1: be the incubation sites for the good ideas. There's school choice,

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Speaker 1: there's continuing to find ways to encourage cheaper housing, improve.

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Speaker 2: The construction codes.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the ideas that Tennesseeans are developing now.

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Speaker 2: That will be good ideas? And Washington a couple of

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Speaker 2: years from now.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're actually working on this.

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Speaker 10: Americans for Prosperity across the country and that's something called

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Speaker 10: the Rains Act. It's regulations of the executive in need

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Speaker 10: of scrutiny.

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Speaker 5: It's simple.

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Speaker 10: It adds more transparency and prevents unelected bureaucrats from passing

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Speaker 10: any kind of regulation that can destroy a business or

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Speaker 10: a family. That's the kind of transparency and accountability that

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Speaker 10: we want to see in Tennessee. And that's the kind

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Speaker 10: of thing that will protect future generations even if there

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Speaker 10: is a demographic shift and Nashville or other cities have

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Speaker 10: more of a say that they do not have right now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, we were talking about the tax climate and

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Speaker 9: how great that is for people who want to move

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Speaker 9: to Tennessee, but it's also great for companies that want

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Speaker 9: to move to Tennessee. Even some of my old friends

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Speaker 9: back in Hollywood talk about how Tennessee is the place

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Speaker 9: to be, especially for film production. A number of complexes

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Speaker 9: being built there. Talk about that tax climate, specifically for

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Speaker 9: businesses because they are flooding the state too.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 10: We have low taxes across the board, even for businesses,

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Speaker 10: and so we want to keep it that way.

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Speaker 5: So I would encourage any of the people that are coming.

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Speaker 10: Here not to seek tax incentives or anything like that,

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Speaker 10: because this is what keeps our taxes low, is that

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Speaker 10: everyone pays a low tax, and it's not a crazy tax.

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Speaker 10: We don't have bureaucrats telling people who to hire, or

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Speaker 10: how they should hire, or how they should run their lives.

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Speaker 10: We have conservative governance in the state, and since we

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Speaker 10: have a low business tax rate and have recently cut

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Speaker 10: taxes again I think twenty twenty three with the Tennessee

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, Tory, you are a lucky lady living there.

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Speaker 9: In the volunteer state. We appreciate you being here and

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Speaker 5: Thank you'll so much for having me.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, all right, everybody. Next, if the AI boom

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Speaker 5: Of course we're going to get to that right after.

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Speaker 9: Uh oh, we may be witnessing the next financial crisis

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Speaker 9: hiding in plain sight. Billions of dollars are being poured

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Speaker 9: Now tech stocks are storing, but most companies investing in

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Speaker 9: So meanwhile, a handful of megacap tech firms dominate the

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Speaker 9: AI falters, what does that mean for the market and

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Speaker 9: for your retirement? Joining us out to tell us what

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Speaker 9: Shannon Davis. Shannon, thanks so much for being with us.

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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me, Amanda. Good to see you, guys,

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Speaker 11: good to see you.

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Speaker 9: You know, we have heard so much about AI, President

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Speaker 9: Trump pulling those investments into the country data centers. We're

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Speaker 9: going to need more electricity. It seems like it has

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Speaker 9: filled the conversations in rooms, but they're as we were

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Speaker 9: just discussing, is this a big wat of bazooka that

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Speaker 9: is about to blow up?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we were just discussing.

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Speaker 12: I mean Google, and we're talking about Google, the biggest

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Speaker 12: search engine in the entire world. Is talking about AI overinflated,

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Speaker 12: not working.

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Speaker 11: We're in a bubble.

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Speaker 12: Investors and central banks are now raising red flags. AI

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Speaker 12: related valuations are at levels we haven't seen since the

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Speaker 12: dot com era, and yet, like you said, most businesses

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Speaker 12: that are deploying AR aren't seeing business results from it.

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Speaker 12: When the heype meets reality, the fallout tends to spread

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Speaker 12: and spread fast, and that's what we've seen in the market.

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Speaker 12: I think what a lot of people don't understand is

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Speaker 12: thirty three plus percent give or take of the S

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Speaker 12: and P five hundred is being held up by AI

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Speaker 12: talk stock driven companies Navidia, Microsoft, Alphabet. These are the

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Speaker 12: companies propping up the market and they're starting to see

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Speaker 12: some bad times here. That's what we've seen over the

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Speaker 12: last week or two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask a little bit about that

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Speaker 1: dynamic that it's created a little bit of panic on

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Speaker 1: Wall Street. There are a lot of people using the

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Speaker 2: But in addition to the.

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Speaker 1: Investors not getting their performance, a lot of the technology

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Speaker 1: has had disappointing and embarrassing moments like it was debuted

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Speaker 1: before it was really ready for prime time. That often

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Speaker 1: is a big boom when it lands that way.

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Speaker 2: Our consumers just scared of this, now.

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Speaker 12: True, they are, I think most consumers, especially you know,

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Speaker 12: our baby boomers, which is our biggest generation, they're scared

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Speaker 12: of technology. They see it running rapid and taking over

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Speaker 12: taking over their jobs. This is the challenge that they're

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Speaker 12: running into and they're scared of it and they always

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Speaker 12: have been because when a system is so concentrated, when

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Speaker 12: the big players move, everyone else moves too. So when

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Speaker 12: you're when the majority of your four oh one k

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Speaker 12: or I ra is in these type of stocks, you

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Speaker 12: don't have any control, you can't move quickly, and so

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Speaker 12: they're scared. You're seeing a huge move out of the market,

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Speaker 12: and it's a parent Over the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 12: it's it's been a roller coaster run.

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Speaker 9: When it comes to a package of investments for Americans.

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Speaker 9: It is ai really prevalent or is that something that

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Speaker 9: a lot of investors have seen as you know, maybe

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Speaker 9: it's not necessarily reliable yet so they've avoided it. Is

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Speaker 9: this something that everyday Americans really should worry about as

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Speaker 9: a part of their portfolio.

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Speaker 12: One hundred percent. They should worry about it because it's

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Speaker 12: in their portfolio. You know, this is what most financial

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Speaker 12: advisors are plugging into their portfolio, whether it's a traditional IRA,

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Speaker 12: a roth IRA four oh one k. I mean, they've

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Speaker 12: got techs, tech big tech stocks, those companies that we

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Speaker 12: just mentioned inside their retirement account. And when there's huge

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Speaker 12: liquidations that we're seeing in the market, they're being affected.

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Speaker 12: They can't move out quickly, and they've worked their entire

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Speaker 12: lives for something that can change in a matter of

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Speaker 12: seven days. I mean, again, we've talked about it quite

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Speaker 12: a few times. You talk about two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 12: which eerily there's a lot of similar things happening, like

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Speaker 12: two thousand and six and seven that led up to

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Speaker 12: eight nine, and when in seven days most Americans lost

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Speaker 12: more than half of their retirement account seven days, they

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Speaker 12: should be really.

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Speaker 2: Scared, all right. So you hear the word bubble, you

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Speaker 2: hear these predictions.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's a lot of people talking the way,

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Speaker 1: including like you said, Google CEO said, it's an irrational

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Speaker 1: investment right now, the guy who's making the technology is

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Speaker 1: warning it it's scary, all right. So you are sitting there,

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Speaker 1: You're looking at this. You don't want to lose half

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Speaker 1: But what are some of the early tactics that someone

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a great question, John. You need to plan,

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Speaker 11: And this is what we do.

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Speaker 9: I'm Shannon. What's so amazing about precious metals gold in

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Speaker 9: particular is that, you know, it might have a few

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Speaker 11: Now is definitely the time to do it.

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Speaker 12: I remember in twenty twenty two when the market was correcting,

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Speaker 12: fast forward to twenty twenty five and it's over four

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Speaker 11: You know, there's a.

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Speaker 11: I mean Jim Rickards.

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Speaker 12: go up. You nailed it, Amanda. It's been steady freddy

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Speaker 9: It's a great hedge and it sparkles too. CEO of

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 9: Welcome back everybody to our final segment of the night.

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Speaker 9: Thank you to John for taking basically half the show

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Speaker 9: without me.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it all.

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Speaker 9: Right now, it has been seven days since the historic

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Speaker 9: forty three day government shutdown has come to an end,

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Speaker 9: and the Senate is now looking to take up a

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Speaker 9: big fiscal appropriations build a package is drawing criticism because

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Speaker 9: that the spending bill is an attempt to fleece taxpayers,

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Speaker 9: and if Congress does not rework the spending bill, it

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Speaker 9: could possibly lead us into another manufactured spending crisis. Low

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Speaker 9: them a home so here to discuss this with us

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Speaker 9: as executive vice president of the National Taxpayers Union brand

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Speaker 9: and Arnold Brandon, thanks so much for being with us.

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Speaker 8: Always a pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 9: You know, Republicans this time around, they said they were

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Speaker 9: going to change, They said they were going to save

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Speaker 9: size of government, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 9: spender is going to spend. Tell us what all?

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 9: It's four different appropriations pieces that they want to tack

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Speaker 9: onto this and it's a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the shutdown, like you said, just ended a

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Speaker 8: week ago, which was good news obviously, but now they've

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Speaker 8: started to pivot to the annual spending bills, which they

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Speaker 8: were supposed to have done before October. Now they want

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Speaker 8: to cram them all together in this big package of

881
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 8: four appropriations bills spend hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars.

882
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 8: Of course, what they don't want you to see is

883
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 8: the fine print, the ear marks to pork the wasteful spending.

884
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 8: But we spend hours at the National Taxpayers Union digging

885
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 8: through the bill texs and finding all sorts of nonsense.

886
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 8: Almost twenty nine hundred earmarks in there, totally well over

887
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 8: five billion dollars. That's our money that's being squandered to

888
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 8: help members of Congress get reelected or to curry favor

889
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 8: with certain individuals or businesses in their districts and states.

890
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 8: Huge amount of waste needs to go absolutely.

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00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: All right, Brandon, give me some that'll really make me mad.

892
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: I want to go to the dinner angry tonight. Give

893
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: me some real wasteful earmarks, will you.

894
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's so much in there. I mean, there's there's

895
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 8: a million dollars that is going through the Atlanta Braves Foundation.

896
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 8: I don't know if you like the Atlanta Braves or not,

897
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 8: but guess what that team is chock full of millionaires

898
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 8: and owned by billionaires. They do not need a million

899
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 8: dollars of taxpayer money. We're also giving a million dollars

900
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 8: for oyster research in Mississippi. And if that's not enough,

901
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 8: we're giving another million dollars to oil research in Alabama

902
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 8: right next door. I don't think the oysters know which

903
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 8: state they reside in, but either way, they're getting showered

904
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 8: with pork barrel spending. There's things like an elephant statue

905
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 8: that's being refurbished in New Jersey. There's squash courts being

906
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 8: paid for in Baltimore, Maryland. So much waste, it is

907
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 8: absolutely nauseating.

908
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 9: In defense of the oysters, I've come from the West Coast.

909
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 9: I've also had pee East Coast oysters, and I will

910
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 9: say that Gulf oysters are the best.

911
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: So you know, politics, now we have oyster barrel politicans.

912
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: This is not right. This is just not right, Brandon.

913
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 9: When it comes to the chatter that you're hearing up

914
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 9: on Capitol Hill, especially on the Senate side, who's who's

915
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 9: taken a stab at this? Are you hearing some of

916
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 9: the more fiscally minded Republicans saying, hey, we got a

917
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 9: throttle this or does it seem like pretty much all

918
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 9: of the Republican caucus in the Upper Chamber is I

919
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 9: mean unified behind it?

920
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: No?

921
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 8: I think fortunately a lot of the fiscal conservatives are

922
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 8: up in arms about this bill. There's a lot of

923
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 8: what they call holds that is a procedural method to

924
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 8: slow down the bill that are being placed by senators

925
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Speaker 8: like Mike Lee, very conservative member of course out of Utah,

926
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 8: Jony Ernst, who hates government waste and has done a

927
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 8: really good job throughout her career in trying to limit

928
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 8: the number of earmarks. So a number of conservatives have

929
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 8: stood up and said, no, we can't go back to

930
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 8: the bad old ways of wasting taxpayer dollars, especially at

931
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 8: a time when our nation is thirty eight trillion dollars

932
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 8: in debt in counting. So thank goodness for those members

933
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 8: standing up. Hopefully they will help to scrape out as

934
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 8: many of these earmarks as possible and we can proceed

935
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 8: with more fiscally responsible legislation.

936
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: All right, so we'll stop out hopefully some of these

937
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: ear marks and waste will spending. But there's still the

938
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: big picture, which is we're still hurtling to two trillion

939
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: dollars year deficits were thirty eight thirty nine forty forty

940
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: one trillion. We got Medicare and Social Security cliffs coming

941
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: over the horizon, and no one's really taking a big

942
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: stab at doing anything yet. I want to talk about

943
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: four ideas that have been on the table for a

944
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Speaker 1: long time but no one execution tell me if you sell.

945
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: There's the high risk federal programming that GEO warns us

946
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: about every year. There's the dead people that could simply

947
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: be taken off of all entitlement in aid programs just

948
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: by the Social Security giving a list of all the

949
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: federal agency of the dead people checking him quickly.

950
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: Then there are the.

951
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Sort of middle men that come up and make government

952
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: more expensive, like the pension benefit or pharmacy benefit managers.

953
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: And then those people who go out and sell Obamacare

954
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: to people who don't need it. In folks like that,

955
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: how much if you just took those three things which

956
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: have been on the table for two decades by gao,

957
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: how much could we trim quickly without really breaking the bank.

958
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we're talking about billions of dollars, no

959
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 8: doubt about it. You talk about the master file, we

960
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 8: don't have communication across government agencies. So government, the Social

961
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 8: Security Administration maintains that master file, but other parts of

962
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Speaker 8: the government might not know about it. Though somebody's deceased,

963
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Speaker 8: their Social Security benefits may have been cut off, but

964
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Speaker 8: they may be getting benefits elsewhere. That's an enormous problem.

965
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 8: Tons of waste there. The pharmacy benefit managers, those are middlemen.

966
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 8: Those are scooping up the rebates that are supposed to

967
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 8: go to patients, but these drug rebates are instead being

968
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Speaker 8: held by pharmacy benefit managers to pad their own bottom line.

969
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 8: So there's so much waste in the system. And yes,

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00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 8: thank goodness for folks like the Government Accountability Office for

971
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Speaker 8: flagging them. But flagging them is not enough. We need

972
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 8: Congress to actually roll up their sleeves and do something

973
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 8: about it. Unfortunately they have been very slow to do so.

974
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 8: If they've done so, it all right.

975
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, well things move slowly around here, as we all know.

976
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Speaker 9: Executive vice President and National Taxpayers Union Brandon Arnold, thanks

977
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 9: so much for joining us tonight. Thanks for having me

978
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 9: absolutely all right, everybody that's going to do it for

979
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 9: us tonight. But we will be back here tomorrow at

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Speaker 9: six pm E. Scream mates, we're being here. Have a

981
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 9: wonderful evening. Grant Stinfield is going to take you through

982
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Speaker 9: the next olbum.

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Speaker 6: Good Mark,