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Speaker 1: head coaching carousel that's going on. Not all the big

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Speaker 1: Vick and DeShawn Jackson end up at Norfolk State and

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Speaker 2: Hey, I might be next, who knows.

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Speaker 1: We also got to talk about junior college players because

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Speaker 1: this has been a big discussion.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, they're gonna stash them.

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Speaker 1: Chill man, It's not gonna happen the way that you

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Speaker 2: All right, Ralph, we will get started.

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Speaker 1: So it first was talked about about Michael Vick getting

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Speaker 2: Because he's still asked as hell.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing that DeShawn will be able to do,

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Speaker 1: Because Dion can do it. Because Dion can do it.

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Speaker 1: In hindsight, they should have kept Dylan Gabriel one. And

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go with number one, my faith John

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Caden Salter to Colorado. That is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mikey Keane is He's gonna have Michigan much better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that that that's a really really interesting

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Speaker 3: So that's a fascinating one for me because Michigan obviously

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00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: national champion just one year ago, and for them to

439
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 3: be betting on on this kid, this shorter quarterback, fascinating

440
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: to me that that that was a really really big one.

441
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Speaker 1: Dylan Dylan Gabriel has been making making short kings cool.

442
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am Kyler. Well, I don't know about Kyler,

443
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: but uh, I would say that. Another one of mine

444
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: that is super super interesting is Luke Cromin hook to

445
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: play for Jeff Levy because Florida State fans are so

446
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 3: mad about this transfer. They're pissed, and I don't understand

447
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: why they're so upset. Do you know what they they

448
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: They're drowning in nil money potential quarterback commits. I don't

449
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 3: think they're gonna miss this kid at all. It's not

450
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: like he did much this year anyway.

451
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would totally agree, and they get so. I

452
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna name the kid that came into

453
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: Florida State Thomas Cassianos.

454
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because because there's a lot of Florida State

455
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: people who don't know what to think. A lot of

456
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: Florida State people are Bobby Bowden people, and the idea

457
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: of somebody quitting on their football team to come be

458
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: your starter is really hard for them to digest. I

459
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: love Thomas Casianas. It'd be very funny for me to

460
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: do like an all former UCF quarterback list of three

461
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: because Castianos and mikey Kean were teammates in Orlando. But yeah, no,

462
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: I think that. I think the Casianos thing is fascinating,

463
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: but the croman Hook one just because Florida State fans

464
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: were so upset, and I do think Jeff Levy's gonna

465
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: get that offense going. I don't know Ifsissippi State's ever

466
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: gonna be good, but we'll find out if Luke croman

467
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 3: Hook is actually a good quarterback under Jeff Levy. I

468
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: believe that one miss million percent. And then you and

469
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: then you, you brought up you, you brought up the

470
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: whole Duke situation. So I'm not gonna double down on that.

471
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: But I do want to declare a winner because before

472
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: this season started, on this podcast, we said we're gonna

473
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: know the ultimate winner between Dion Sanders and his former

474
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator who he removed duties from and then took

475
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: a head coaching job.

476
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: Because he lost his recruit, Danny O'Neill.

477
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so that that was the one that I

478
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: wanted to bring up, was Danny O'Neill. Danny O'Neill decommitted

479
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 4: from Colorado to follow his head coach to San Diego State.

480
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: One year later he's going to Wisconsin.

481
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: Yep.

482
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: That to me is that that's the fine, because San

483
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 3: Diego State wasn't good this year. Obviously, Colorado was nine

484
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: and three or whatever, and so I think that maybe

485
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: we're going multi rounds on this. Maybe we'll see what

486
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: Sanda Yego State's doing in two three years. But round

487
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 3: one Colorado like with a knockdown ten eight, ten to seven. Baby, dude.

488
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys as I get down further

489
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: into this transfer portal list, the one I'm most intrigued

490
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: by because this kid has been at like eighteen different

491
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: schools already, and I'm not joking, is TJ Finley?

492
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does he have eligibility left?

493
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: He that's NBA. You're talking about like a three and

494
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: D wing sign of one year deals like Trevor or

495
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 3: Reza or something.

496
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: So he's been at oh my god, let's see all

497
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: twenty six. So he started at LSU, he enrolled at LSU,

498
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: then he went to Auburn. He played at Auburn, then

499
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: he went to Texas State, hopped in the portal, went

500
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: to Western Kentucky, hopped in the Portal. Now he's at

501
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: Tulane and so that one is interesting. I want to

502
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: see where j Warner goes Kurt Water soon because he's.

503
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: He's been it's been good.

504
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm actually surprised that he hasn't found a home yet.

505
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: Cool on this list that is homeless, would you take

506
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: as like a backup next year to Dante More that

507
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: you know isn't going to play over him, but is

508
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: older and has experience because for me, I.

509
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: Think Sam was that Utah last year. Yeah, yeah, school,

510
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: she's a wheeze, all right. I would probably say, let's say,

511
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: hm hmm. You know who I think is an intriguing

512
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: pick up that I don't think anybody that if you're

513
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: picking him to be a quarterback, I think it's a

514
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: foolish move. But the kid is a crazy talent. Is

515
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: alex Orgy?

516
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what you're saying.

517
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: It edits him to.

518
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: Play running back or play anything else. You might have

519
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: something extremely special.

520
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I we've Arizona State has Jeff Simms, and

521
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: I kind of look at Jeff Sims and alex Orgy

522
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: the same in that if you need them to come

523
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: in and run out of specific packages, they can but

524
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: I'll give you one. I'll give I'll give you an

525
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: interesting backup to Dante Moore, and you let me know

526
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: what you think of this. Bring home ty Thompson at

527
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: this point, he's got to know. No, he said, no.

528
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: I just saw the kid in the bowl game. Man,

529
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: he was terrible.

530
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, dude, you can't hop

531
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: into Portland go play like this like that, like this

532
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: was an opportunity and it did not go well. So, oh,

533
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: do you know how I would take I would take

534
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: Ashton Daniels. That's who I would take. Oh he's not

535
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: he's not homeless anymore anyway.

536
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna go battle with the He's gonna go

537
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: battle with Jackson Arnold. They got two running quarterbacks. I

538
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: really want to know what he freezes thinking. Here he

539
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: got this.

540
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of kids in this twenty twenty four

541
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: class that I was watching that I was not real

542
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: excited about it.

543
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: Who were ranked above Damon?

544
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, oh, you're you're in the

545
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: portal already.

546
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: This is very interesting. M I'll take Nate Yarnell.

547
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Then, Okay, if you're gonna make me take anybody, of

548
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: course you will.

549
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: Of course you will. You know, he's like six seven,

550
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: you like those giants?

551
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I don't.

552
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't like him over six six if I'm being honest,

553
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: because he's the biggest. He's listed at six to six. Okay,

554
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: so let's hope he's six to six. If you're any

555
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: taller than six six, you can't play quarterback for me.

556
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: If you're six foot seven on the if you hit

557
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: six foot seven, you gotta hop into portal.

558
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: Did you ever give that take to your your Jacksonville

559
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: tight end teammate.

560
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: He was only six to six. Yeah, yeah, he was

561
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: only sixty six, all right.

562
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: But speaking of the portal though, uh, there's a player

563
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: named Xavier Lucas who is in the well who's attempting

564
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: to get in the transfer a portal now because uh,

565
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: he signed his letter of intent and now he wants

566
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: out and there are people that are blocking his transfer.

567
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: And you can read his tweet, Ralph.

568
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Xavier Lucas he played at Wisconsin last year's

569
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: from South Florida. He was like one of their highest

570
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 3: rated defensive players last year. It didn't seem like he

571
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: was gonna go into the portal like so many Wisconsin

572
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: players have, But on December nineteenth, he announced that he

573
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: was going into the portal. Here we are eight days

574
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: later and he is not actually in the portal, And

575
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: this is his tweet from earlier today, December twenty seventh.

576
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: I still intend to transfer, but at the moment, Wisconsin

577
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: is refusing to release me into the transfer portal. I've

578
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: met all NCAA requirements of the transfer portal process. I've

579
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: yet to be put into the transfer portal by Wisconsin,

580
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: which is impeding my ability to speak with schools. He

581
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: didn't say stopping completely. He said he is impeding his

582
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: ability to legally speak with schools because Wisconsin is granted

583
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: every other portal request except for this bro.

584
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: That's nasty.

585
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: That is nasty, and speaking of bad karma, I know

586
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: why Lincoln Riley's not having success. I just thought about

587
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: that when you just brought that up. Do you remember

588
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: when the kid wanted to transfer to TCU from Oklahoma

589
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: and he blocked him?

590
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember when that was common practice, blocking specific destinations.

591
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: State into UCLA's quarterback when he wanted to come down.

592
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: That's right, and that's right, and man.

593
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: And that coach ends up getting fired. Program falls in

594
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: shambles for a minute. Hey listen, no good, no bad

595
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: deed goes unpunished, and and uh so so yeah, so

596
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I think that that might be a little bit of

597
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley Carmel. How long will it will it last?

598
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Who knows?

599
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: And this time you.

600
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: Think Luke Fickle's in the wrong for this, then.

601
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: Yes, now I do believe that I would probably talk

602
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: to the kid on some level and be like, all right, look, look, man,

603
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: we know that this is not about you.

604
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: If we're being honest that.

605
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: Well, we have revealed why we haven't revealed the rumor

606
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: on why they won't let him go.

607
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead and tell what the rumor is.

608
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: Because because everyone thinks that the moment that he's allowed

609
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: in the portal, he'll commit to Miami, which means he

610
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: must know something, which means he must have had a conversation.

611
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: So it's tamp it's tampering. It's the third year old

612
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: Miami has been accused of tampering West Virginia twenty twenty two,

613
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, Oklahoma State big time.

614
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: And of course they've been tampering.

615
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: This is literally what they do, and it's not just

616
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: just them, So don't think I'm just attacking Miami.

617
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: It's the reality.

618
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: My Miami comes and says, all right, bro, look we

619
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: got a boat load of money for you.

620
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: Are you Are you coming or are you not? Oh? No?

621
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: Okay, well then well then up that by multiply that

622
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: times three. Now what do you think I'm still not coming? Listen, bro,

623
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: you gonna come five times?

624
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'm too immature right now. I just got immature

625
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: on myself. I was like, oh, don't.

626
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: Do that, George, you and full Alex Jones, that's gonna

627
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: get clipped for sure.

628
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm letting the kid go if you don't me here.

629
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: We're not fighting to keep you.

630
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't understand why why anybody would be sitting there

631
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: trying to keep somebody who don't want to be there.

632
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: So maybe they're trying to expose with that. Wisconsin and

633
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: Luke Fickel are trying to expose Miami. So maybe I

634
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: tell the kid like, hey, yo, bro, my Miami tampered

635
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: a bit bit too much here. You're gonna have to

636
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: find somewhere else and we will let you go, but

637
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: we are going to expose Miami on this. So I'm

638
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: sorry that you got to beat a guy. But that's

639
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: what it what it is like. If that's how strongly

640
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: I felt about it, That's what I would do if

641
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: I was the head coach.

642
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean people tamper It is what it is.

643
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: Miami got tampered with, definitely, probably by the whole Isaiah

644
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: Bond to Alabama thing. Yes, Like how did how did

645
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 3: on three have a have a prediction to Alabama thirty

646
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: minutes after and like all three also has uh they

647
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: have Xavier Lucas predicted to Miami even though he's not

648
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: in the portal, like we know, we know. I've you've

649
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: seen players get tampered with directly. I've tried. I've had

650
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 3: parents try to use me as an avenue for tampering. Yeah, hey,

651
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: can you put the word out that we're thinking about

652
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: getting in the portal and pass my number along to

653
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: anybody who might want me to get into the portal.

654
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: I've had parents reach out to me and ask for that.

655
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: We Arizona State lost the offensive Linemen to Michigan while

656
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: they were under investigation for the Connor Stallions thing because

657
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 3: they called the kid and said, you have a home here, hey, man, Like,

658
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: it's just it's just what it is like it it.

659
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: I don't know how to fix it at this point,

660
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: but it's very very funny that like that, that Xavier

661
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: Lucas is going to be the one to have Miami

662
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: be made an example of. I don't know if it's

663
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: gonna work. I don't know if they're going to keep

664
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: him from I don't can you how could you keep

665
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: him from Miami unless you know for sure if you

666
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: hold him back for long enough, Miami might have to

667
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: fill that spot and give up. That's their only.

668
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you're screwing the kid, and I don't

669
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: like that either.

670
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: Have you ever do you know the like, uh, the

671
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 3: shel Silverstein books where the sidewalk ends and stuff like that, Yeah,

672
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: falling up. There's in one of those books, there's a

673
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: little poem called the Prayer of the Selfish Child? Have

674
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: you ever heard that?

675
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah? Yeah. Now I've laid me down.

676
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: To sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to take

677
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: and if I die before I wake, I pray the

678
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: Lord my toys to break.

679
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: So none of the other kids can play with them. Yep,

680
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: that's yeah. So I think that's where we're at with

681
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 3: Luke Fickle right now. Is like Okay, Miami, you can't.

682
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: You can't play with this toil.

683
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: Anybody can have him except you, exactly.

684
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: All right.

685
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: Now, let's move on to the transfer to sort of

686
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, which is something that has been made

687
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: a big deal about that is one hundred percent not

688
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: a big deal.

689
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: Not a big deal, dude.

690
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: Coaches have been and others have been hopping on Twitter

691
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: x whatever you want to call it, making this JUCO

692
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: issue because the NC double A just passed the i'll

693
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: call it the Diego Pavier rule where now you don't

694
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: have well, the A is fighting it, but they're allowing

695
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: it just for this season, and they're fighting the injunction

696
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: that got put in place in court, the Diego Pavia

697
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: rule where if you went to JUCO, those years do

698
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: not count against your FBS eligibility. And you've had coaches, oh,

699
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have thirty year olds playing and this and that,

700
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: and players are gonna coaches are gonna stash players in JUCO.

701
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: This is the biggest kraker, you know what that I've heard, Ralph.

702
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: At no point in time is it going to be

703
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: a mass issue about schools trying to stick players in JUCO.

704
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: Might they try to put players in JUCO that are

705
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: academically ineligible to get into their university and say, all right, cool,

706
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: you can take these classes and we'll get it, get

707
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: it fixed, right. But they already have people to do

708
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: that kind of kind of stuff, So why so why

709
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: would that even be an issue anyway? And as a parent, listen,

710
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I know that JUCO what JUCO is. First of all,

711
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: juco's being phased out in a lot of places anyway,

712
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: so there aren't a ton of teams and where they're Like,

713
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: when you see the living conditions and the financial conditions

714
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: that JUCO players are in, you mean to tell me

715
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: that kids are gonna be like, oh yeah, hell yeah,

716
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll go to East Mississippi Community College instead of going

717
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: to Marshall because because Auburn wants to stick me in

718
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: there for a year. Man, hell to the no, And

719
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: what is the purpose of And if you're a parent,

720
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, hold up, you don't have eighty

721
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: five scholarships. You have one hundred and five scholarships. Now,

722
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: either put my kid on scholarship and he goes there,

723
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: or there ain't nothing to talk about because I'm not

724
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: sending him to And then The other part that you

725
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: have to think about, Ralph is that some of these

726
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: kids are from economically disadvantaged situations and their parents are like,

727
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: get him away from here, get him away from this

728
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: environment and everything else.

729
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: Juko is disco with books. It is not.

730
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: Even for the coaches that do a really good job there,

731
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: even for the programs there are. It is like being

732
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: in high school. It's an event. You're grown up, so

733
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: you can do grown up things. But you're in high

734
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: school essentially, where there's so much freedom, there's less oversight.

735
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: There's you know, like you're more likely to have trouble

736
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: with the law and the community, all sorts of stuff.

737
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: It is not where you want your kid to be.

738
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: If a scholarship is a vail, I can't understand. And

739
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: they're like, well, it'll be like a Mormon mission. Do

740
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: you know what Mormon missions are like for these kids?

741
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: These kids come back safely from Mormon missions.

742
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't get to watch TV. They don't get

743
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: to go to concerts. Can you imagine, George, can you imagine?

744
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: Can you imagine Oregon wanted to house you at a

745
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: juco for two years to preserve your eligibility, and so

746
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: they would have to pay you to do it right, Yes,

747
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: you would show up at this JUCO with more money

748
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: than your head coach. Yeah, in the campus in the

749
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 3: middle of nowhere, filled with a bunch of crashouts. Because

750
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: like that, JUCO is a great financial option for a

751
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: lot of people who aren't the same options as a

752
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: lot of people. JUCO is also a place where all

753
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: the kids who barely graduated high school but have every

754
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: means available to them to go to university end up

755
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: because their parents are like, well, you just got to

756
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: go do something like you be hanging out and go.

757
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 2: To ju for a year or two and then it's over.

758
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: But how how is a coach going to coach somebody

759
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: who has more money than that?

760
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 2: Well, it happens.

761
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 3: It happens. But like, bro, you are.

762
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: One hundred percent right about that. And then the other

763
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: aspect of it is, so now, as a parent and

764
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: as a kid, you're taking a chance. We're gonna stash

765
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: you at JUCO, and I'm supposed to believe the promise

766
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: that that you're going to get me next year or

767
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: two years from now. Do you guys, how insanely stupid

768
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: that that is? Coaches leave, Coaches get fired. I'm supposed

769
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: to depend on you that you'll be here a year

770
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: from now, man, bs bs I do. Why would I

771
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: trust you that you're going to be here a year

772
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: from now.

773
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: I wrote an article this is years ago now that

774
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: like the NC DOUBLEA is missing an opportunity to absorb

775
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: JUCO right to have it be its own thing, essentially

776
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: because junior colleges all over America are canceling football because

777
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: they can't afford the insurance premiums and the headache of

778
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: having football on campus. So the entire state of Arizona

779
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: lost JUCO football. And you're talking about like major programs

780
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 3: like Arizona Western and Yuma, Scottsdale Community College, Mesa Community College,

781
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: MAASA Community College, one the biggest jucos in the entire country,

782
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: just gone right. And so you know, the NC DOUBLEA

783
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: should have stepped in financially to supplement this so that

784
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: they could continue to absorb talent from the JUCO ranks,

785
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: help get people academically right, and all of those things.

786
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: And now you have just a few jucos left, and

787
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: I it's very funny that people are worried about this thing.

788
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: Number one is just an injunction. So This could be

789
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: like the Mike Williams Maurice Clrett thing where they sued

790
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: to go to the NFL. After only one year they

791
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: were allowed to, and then the decision came back and

792
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: excluded both Mike Williams and Maurice Clarette from being able

793
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: to do that. The NCAA said, all right, well, buy

794
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: a year on this. And you are seeing people joke

795
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: about there being thirty year old football players, George, there's

796
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: already several thirty year old football players in the ncaable.

797
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: This is the problem is that they think that is

798
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: going to up the number of incidences.

799
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Minnesota's punter is thirty Mark Crawford, he is

800
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: thirty two years old. Virginia's kicker this year, Matt Ganiard,

801
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 3: is thirty four. Jordan Noy's at Colorado State thirty two

802
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: years old. USF Andrew Stokes thirty. TCU had a thirty

803
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: year old last year. Illinois has a thirty year old punter.

804
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 3: It there are things, military, out of country, all those things,

805
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 3: you know, The truth of the matter is.

806
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: We had an old dude when I was at Oregon.

807
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: He came from the military. He was like twenty six

808
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: when he got there. Yeah, by far the oldest dude,

809
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: and you could tell because he had been in the

810
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: military and he was old.

811
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: You got tight bed corners.

812
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: Oh br tight everything, tight everything, And dude, I just

813
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: don't see this as nearly as big of a problem

814
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: as they're pretending it is going to be. I do

815
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: understand how that could happen, but I don't think that

816
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: people thought through the logistics of it. Is like, imagine

817
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and so who would they want to stick at Juco's. Okay,

818
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: the players that they're going to try to allegedly stick

819
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: at Juco's, they're not gonna get a five or a

820
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: four star kid to go to a Juco. They're not

821
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: gonna know it because they're gonna be like, I'll go

822
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: somewhere else, and then the other So then you're like, okay,

823
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: well they'll stick two and three star players there. Not

824
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: if they have FBS offers and hope they think it's

825
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna work.

826
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: Like whole back years with high school players.

827
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: It's not the same thing because they're holding back in

828
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: eighth grade or sixth grade, and if you're good to

829
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: get on their steward with their friends, they're still in

830
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: this safe environment. They're still all of this stuff and

831
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: you think that that's going to bro They have lost

832
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: their damn minds.

833
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 3: If you're good enough to get on the field at

834
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: twenty one, you're gonna be on the field.

835
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: Yep.

836
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: You're not gonna be down at a at a JUCO.

837
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: If you're not qualified academically, you're not gonna be down

838
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: at a JUCO. If you're good enough to be on

839
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: the field, would you rather Let's say somebody came to

840
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: you and this is like five years down the road,

841
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: and they said, we'll give your son three hundred thousand

842
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 3: dollars to spend one year at like Long Beach Community

843
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: College and then commit to US or UH Utah State

844
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: is like, we'll have him. We got like one hundred

845
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: thousand budget for our quarterback this year, will take him

846
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: Utah State right right.

847
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what the ain't no, this ain't no discussion.

848
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm not trusting no coach to put me in no

849
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: damn And he might like Utah State might do well there,

850
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: and he'll have an opportunity to leave and move up

851
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: if he wants to, or stay there if he's if

852
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: he's happy, get.

853
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: Out of here. They lost they damn mind all right,

854
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: next thing up.

855
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: These assistant coaching salaries, Ralph are getting craggy. When I

856
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: saw this list, I was I was flabbergasted because I

857
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: didn't realize how big this list is. So the poorest

858
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: assistant coach in the top ten is for my Oregon Ducks,

859
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: Tash Loupoi at a whopping excuse me, a minuscule, just

860
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: a minuscule, one point nine million dollars. Now, Oregon's defense

861
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: is really good. I got no problem with him making

862
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 1: one point nine million dollars because he's doing a good job.

863
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: That is, head coaches.

864
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Used to be happy to get paid that There are

865
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: a lot of head coaches that aren't making this type

866
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: of money. So Tosh Loupoi at one point nine million,

867
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: Morgan scali at Utah at two million dollars.

868
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: That feels like a good, good deal.

869
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: Here, Glenn Schuman at Georgia, interesting amount of money, I was.

870
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: Excuse me, excuse me, Chip Kelly at number eight two

871
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: million dollars, So him and Morgan Scalley are tied number seven.

872
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Glenn Schumann at Georgia two million and three

873
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. What do you think that three thousand is

874
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: about to put you above the mother people at two million,

875
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: Andy Sorry, DC at Florida State, Adam Fuller two million

876
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: and fifteen thousand dollars, Andy Ludwick utah Oc well former

877
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: utah Oc two million and fifty thousand. So I think

878
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you ta I had two coordinators up

879
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: there that type of money because they're trying to keep

880
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: Morgan Scalley around so.

881
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: He could be the next head coach.

882
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: Pete Golding to two point one point five million at

883
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: Ole Miss Jim Knows the d C at Ohio State

884
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: two point two million, Wink Martindale at two point three

885
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: million dollars defensive coordinator at Michigan. All of these feel

886
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: like that these are some of the top guys at

887
00:51:54,360 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: their job. How about Blake Baker number one on this list,

888
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator at LSU two point five million.

889
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 3: That's a tough one because that's the number they had

890
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: to give to get him out of Missoo. Right, I'm

891
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: gonna make you the highest paid coordinator in all of

892
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: college football if you leave Missoo, come to LSU where

893
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 3: all the money is and their defense not so good.

894
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: Again, do the comments on the posts are hilarious. LSU

895
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: and Florida State just throwing away money. Actually, Florida Florida

896
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: State's defense was actually all right. Their offense was so

897
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: bad that it put the defense in bad positions all

898
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: the time. Their defense was fine. Uh, LSU should ask

899
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: for a refund.

900
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: Well, and they're I mean, they're head coaches making eight figures,

901
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 3: so it and they had defense into problems before Blake

902
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: Baker got there. So I'm shout out to Blake Baker

903
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: for getting paid life changing money to leave Miszoo. Had

904
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: he stayed at Miszoo, maybe they go to a college

905
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: football playoff. I don't know, but yeah, that was that.

906
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: That was a tough one. Seeing him at the very

907
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 3: top of the list. You have to imagine the.

908
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Two coordinators that aren't on this list right now that

909
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: maybe on this list is Golden and Dim Brown Goldend

910
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

911
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And then maybe D'Anton Lyne is getting something

912
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 3: in the.

913
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: Oh at USC oh yeah, oh yeah, he's.

914
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: For sure making over two million dollars. For sure, there's

915
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: no way, because he was making over a million at

916
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: UCLA and they post him.

917
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: So okay, So I want to read you. I want

918
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: to read you an article. I know that that doesn't

919
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 3: make for great podcasting, but I want to read you

920
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 3: part of an article from the year two thousand. Is that. Okay? Okay?

921
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 3: This article is by a man named Greg Schroeder. George Schroeder,

922
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 3: George Schroder, my man. Two bits, four bits, two million,

923
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: two million dollar college coaches hit pay dirt and much

924
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: more so. This is from June eleventh, two thousand, just

925
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: twenty four years ago. Okay, and I'm gonna skip to

926
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: the middle of the article. Salaries really began escalating the

927
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: latter half of the last decade. After Florida won the

928
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six National Championship, Steve Spurrier got a two

929
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: million dollar deal. Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley indicated the

930
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 3: contract and subsequent bumps to Spurrier's salary were necessary because

931
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: the lucrative offers NFL teams had begun offering Spurrier and

932
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 3: fully said it was justified because the astronomic revenue figures

933
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: that Gators were raking in from football. It's a common

934
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: argument at the top levels. College football is a cash

935
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 3: cow bringing in millions. Why shouldn't the architect of the success,

936
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: the person with the highest profile of a high pressure

937
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: situation be compensated. Several other schools quickly followed Florida's lead.

938
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: A year ago, Rick Neuheisel got one million dollars to

939
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: leave Colorado for Washington. Kentucky's how tcused Dennis Franchioni and

940
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 3: Kentucky's how Mommy both had their contracts reworked to around

941
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand dollars. Arkansas bumped Houston Nuts salary of

942
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: about four hundred thousand to near seven hundred and fifty

943
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.

944
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: Who's raking in the big bucks in two thousand.

945
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: Buddy Tommy Tuberbille at this time was making about nine

946
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars, while Kansas State's Bill Snyder, Texas's Mac

947
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: Brown and RC Slocum at Texas A and M All

948
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: earned about one million. Dan McCartney of Iowa State only

949
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: made three hundred thousand. Bob Stoops made an estimated six

950
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand at Oklahoma. That is twenty four

951
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: years ago. We're talking about four coaches total, four total

952
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 3: coach making six figures, and this list that you have

953
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: up right now is at least nine assistant coaches making

954
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: two million per year plus several that we don't have

955
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: the salary data on.

956
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Boy times is changing. Boy, Hey, hey, you're going to

957
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: have people who you know how people used to try

958
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: to groom their kids to well, they groom their kids

959
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: to be professional athletes or you know, or anything else. Doctors, lawyers.

960
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: Why would you not groom your kid to be a

961
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 1: head coach one hundred million dollar contracts?

962
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I likes them the skills that they need.

963
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: Like, we are going to study football, son, We are

964
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: going to I know that you won't play football because

965
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: your genetics are not set up that way.

966
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: We are going to teach you leadership classes. We are

967
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: going to teach you the game.

968
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna get you around all the smart people, send

969
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: you to all the clinics the way you can be

970
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: the next Kenny Dillingham.

971
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: Sorry, young guy up due to ranks. How's that a

972
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: bad path? So?

973
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean there's a lot of parents who

974
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: don't might not understand that. I have switched recently from

975
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: from saying stuff to my oldest son, like hey, you

976
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: could play Madden when you finish your homework, to hey,

977
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: you can finish your homework after you play Madden.

978
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you might be a game like that actually

979
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: might be their career path which is real. Yeah, lasting

980
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: up today? Oh what do you think about this? About

981
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: the People's Championship that's getting ready to take place, which

982
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: is the Big Twill Championship f the People's Championship? So

983
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: oh Jake Crohenhawk howk uh quarterback over at BYU?

984
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, reds laugh. Who was that? Who did

985
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: I just say?

986
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: We're talking about that Florida State?

987
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah Jake Retz left and aka the BYG.

988
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: It makes me uncomfortable to say that. I don't know why,

989
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: me too.

990
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: So he decides that when they were in the press

991
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: conference for the Alamo Bowl that he said that this

992
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: is the People's Big Ten Championship BYU versus Colorado. I'm like, no,

993
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: it's not. Arizona State was the People's Champion. Arizona State

994
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: was the Big twelve champion and the People's Champion. Sorry,

995
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: b y, you you had the opportunity you lost to

996
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: Arizona State. Colorado had the opportunity they lost their next

997
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: to last game to get in the Big Twelve Championships.

998
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: So sorry, this is your Yes, no, this is not

999
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: the the People's Championship. This is the do you know

1000
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: what this is? This is the Big twelve Intercontinental title.

1001
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: That's what it is, tag team match or something. This

1002
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: is not the Heavyweight Championship. This is this is the

1003
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: this is the this is the money in the Bank

1004
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: title or something. This is you know, Summer Slam. This

1005
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: isn't the championship.

1006
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: I I thought it was funny.

1007
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: This is hell in the sale, this is make believe,

1008
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: Make believe.

1009
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a pretty wild third place trophy. I

1010
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 3: can admit this. That's a fun matchup. Yes, I will watch.

1011
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: I am excited to watch it. Yeah, and I do

1012
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 3: think b Yu is gonna get wrecked by Colorado, But

1013
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. I could be wrong about that.

1014
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: I think b Why He's a really good team. They

1015
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: did lose the airs on the state. Both of them

1016
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: lost to Kansas, which is the funniest part about all this. Yes,

1017
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: Kansas fans had to be looking at that comment like,

1018
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: wait a minute, are we the People's Champion? But it's funny,

1019
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: Jake rat stuff is funny. It's gonna be a good game.

1020
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: But they did have the opportunity to win the field.

1021
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: I will say this, The Alamo, right, the Alamo Bowl,

1022
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 3: San Antonio, Texas. The Alamo was a building that was

1023
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: held by the Texian Army, the Texans, right, They weren't

1024
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: Americans at the time, they were Texans, and they held

1025
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: this building for months, and they withstood the onslaught from

1026
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: the Mexican army, who eventually did kill everyone in that building.

1027
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: And then at the end of the day, neither the

1028
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 3: Texans nor the Mexicans control San Antonio because Texas is

1029
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: part of the United States of America. So I will

1030
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: say this, It actually does make sense that two teams

1031
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: who don't actually have anything to do with the Big

1032
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: Two championship are pretending that it's a really big deal

1033
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: when they're playing in the Alamo Bowl, which is named

1034
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 3: after a building in a battle where neither of the

1035
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: two armies ended up controlling that territory. Yeah, like that,

1036
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 3: that makes perfect sense to me historically. And I will

1037
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 3: be watching the game and I do think Colorado is

1038
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: gonna win.

1039
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: Median Ralph This is that story made me.

1040
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a dude on Netflix right now who has

1041
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: a new special.

1042
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: Hold up, let me pull.

1043
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: It up while we're said, and he said the funniest

1044
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: line that and it made me laugh because you were

1045
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: sitting here giving me a history lesson, right, And in

1046
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: the trailer, he says, man, I know I know nothing

1047
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: about history because every single time that I watch a

1048
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: documentary about history, it's like it's like the first time

1049
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: that I ever saw.

1050
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: Like I'm sitting on my I with baited breath. Oh

1051
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: it's name gets.

1052
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: The fact that you're just discovering Nate Bargatzi is incredible.

1053
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

1054
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: No, I'm not just discovering men. You just did this

1055
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: on his new special that just came out.

1056
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, highest grossing comedian of twenty twenty four, People's champion,

1057
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 3: People's Champion of comedy.

1058
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 1: If you will see, I would have guessed it would

1059
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: have been what's his name? Who who just got in

1060
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: trouble talk talking about black people? H Andrew Schultz.

1061
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: Hmmm. Yeah, well here's the deal. Here's the deal, people

1062
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 3: under Yeah you did. People underestimate clean shows, clean comedy,

1063
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: something you could watch with your family. People underestimate the

1064
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: amount of money you can make by just not cussing.

1065
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, exactly.

1066
01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's exactly what is going on, So I

1067
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: am going to take I'm gonna take College Colorado to

1068
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: win because I appreciate the fact that he has three

1069
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 1: dudes that are going to get drafted, well, two dudes

1070
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: who are gonna be top ten picks that are playing

1071
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: in the game.

1072
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 3: I think Dyu actually has a couple of guys who

1073
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: hit the portal and aren't gonna play.

1074
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah see see one one. One of these guys loves

1075
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: foot football, one of them is right for the game

1076
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: and everything, and one of them is not you guys,

1077
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 1: that is the college football apostles. I'm George Reiser, He's

1078
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: Ralph Ampston. Peace out, catch you guys later.