1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Like the world. You play to win the game Jet 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: tucksdown can't work. You're listening to the official Jets podcast, 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: Jets three sixty production. Good evening and Everyone inside the 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Jets is broadcast live from Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits here 5 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: inside the wind of Hamilton's Park. The band is back together. 6 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Parts Scott our table is back to go. I'll tell 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: you what. We gotta pick crowd tonight too. So so 8 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: the Jets must have one. We called it victory Monday. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Yes it is. They're back on the band wagon. It 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: is a victory Monday. The Jets are Yes the beer. 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: There's a couple of beers going on going around right now. 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: A couple of cold waters as well for the youngsters. 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: The Jets are five and seven thirty eight thirty one 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: victory over the Kansas City Chiefs. First order of business 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: is you made a wager before the year started with 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: ESPN personality and former New York Giant Chris Kenny book 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Come On, cars were on the line. Bart Scott said 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: the Jets would win five games and four more. I 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: didn't know. Come on, I didn't just happen at five, man, 20 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I'll be hating. So five games in two thousand seventeen, 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: while the Jets just beat the Chiefs. So the Jets 22 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: have You've won the You've won the butt, and the 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: bet was a Ferrari versus a Bentley, correctly. So what's 24 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: happening now is Chris Canny owning up on the bet? Well, 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: you know what. A couple of weeks ago, me and 26 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Chris share the same age, and it was his birthday. 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: I left it up to the fans, and the fans 28 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: thought I should show mercy, and I gave him a 29 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 1: buyout package for sixty grand, forty cash and twenty thousand 30 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: for my charity. You know, so it's Christmas time, so 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that my need to get back. I 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: didn't know if I had enough time to sell a 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Bentley or put it on Craigslist or anything like that 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: or eBay. So Chris Canny still has the bent Line, 35 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: he still has to Bailey, he still has to Bailey. 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: But I got sixty thousand, so parts Scott puts the 37 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: merciful part, Scott, the merciful part. Scott puts forty thou 38 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: in his pocket and twenty thousand the charity following on 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: the budget, man, you just let me know, if you 40 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: can get a hall pass, man, we go out on 41 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: this town and tad up. Oh yeah, I definitely get 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: a hall pass. I want to go out with you 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: and spend some of that fort K. Bottom line is 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: what did you see from the Jets in the summer 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: to make your prediction and eventually your dream or your 46 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: um desirable outcome came true. Well, I'll tell you what 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: I've been in this situation before. And you know, I 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: was a member of the Baltimore Ravens in two thousand 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: two after they lost you know, Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharp, 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Sarah Goose To, Sam Adams, Uh, Jamie Sharper, you know, 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: Dwayne Starts, you know all the you know the great players. 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: And I know sometimes you can unders made young talent 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: because you don't know who they are. Um, but every 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: athlete that's in the NFL is here because they're bet 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: They bet on their selves and they used that as motivation. 56 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: And I knew that team would come in and underestimate 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: them and they would play above you know, their weight, 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: and they're punching above their weight and it's because they're 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: they're getting chemistry. And what happens is where you don't 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: have the Royal reevers where you don't have a David Harris. 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: When you don't have a Nick Man, what happens is 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: now it's on everybody and you don't depend Sometimes we 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: depend too much on our superstars. And what happens is 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: when it is no superstars or superstars that are in 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: the making, then everybody, you know, carries their fair share 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: of weight and they don't lean and wait for, you know, 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: for somebody to make a play, because they know everybody 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: has to make a play. Nobody talks about it yesterday 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: in the winning locker room, and I didn't hear it 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: from many Jets fans, but the Jets equal their win 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: total from a year ago. You just mentioned a number 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: of players who were on the New York Jets in 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. The Jets won't five and eleven 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: last year. Right now, they're sitting at five and seven, 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: uh four games to go. Nothing to celebrate. If you 76 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: asked Todd Balls and the players in the locker room 77 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: man here in a few moments will be joined by 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: defensive lineman Xavier Cooper and also wide receiver slash kick 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: returner Joe Joe natson Um. If you ask anybody love 80 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: named like Joejoe, that's that's sweet. That rolls off the tongue. Man. 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna talk to Joe in a 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: few moments. But the guys in the locker room will 83 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: tell you we should be sitting here about seven to 84 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: five or eight and four. Think about the games against 85 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: Miami when you need a fourteen point lead in the 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, or Atlanta when you had a lead at home, 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: or Carolina when you had a lead at home. So 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: the Jets are just a couple of plays away from 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: being in a good spot as far as playoff contention 90 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: is concerned. Well, you know it's called it's called a 91 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: growth cycle. And um, you know they've they've learned from 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: their mistakes and yesterday was proof of that. And that's 93 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: what you wanna do. You want to be able to 94 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: get that experience. I tell people that veterans are veterans 95 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: not because they've never made mistakes, is because they made 96 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: those mistakes and they've learned from them. It's not a 97 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: sin to make a mistake, it's a sin to make 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: the same mistake and not learn from other people on 99 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: on your on your squad making mistakes. What happens is 100 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: you get that experience and some of these guys, you know, 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: they want to be part of the future. You're going forward. 102 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: Next year is gonna be shake up. They're gonna bring 103 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: in more players. So what happens is now you're gonna have, 104 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, tremendous depth because the young guys that maybe 105 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: started this year, everybody may not start next year. But 106 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: what happens is now you have confidence and a guy 107 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: when you gotta call somebody's number, because you've seen them 108 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: do it before and they've been in those situations inside 109 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: the chests is presented by e Y building a better 110 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: working world. While that was an entertaining ballgame at less 111 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium started off bad though. I was nervous well 112 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: before most people sat down and had their cold beverage 113 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: and maybe a popcorn or two. It was fourteen nothing Chiefs, 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: but I was heating on my wings. Man, it was 115 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: fourteen nothing. I was like, what happened? Boom boom boom? 116 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: That t bows the hell of a thing. Man had 117 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: to go to tebow. See what happened? Man? Yeah, but 118 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but the Jets did not panicked that. I 119 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: like what I saw from them. They absorbed a punch 120 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: and then they countered europe boxing fan And that's exactly 121 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: what the Jets did. They actually took a lead and 122 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: a halftime a seventeen you know, to to quote the 123 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: great Rocky Bell Bowl, it ain't about hag you hit, 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: It's about how hard you can get hit and keep 125 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: moving forward. That done. Hey, what do you think about 126 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: the offensive balance against the Chiefs? Nearly five hundred yards 127 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: a total offense for this team and forty nine rush attempts, 128 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: So the Jets dominated time of possession and they did 129 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: a great job up front, specifically on a guy like 130 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: Justin Houston, a guy who's been rushing the passer at 131 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: an elite level for many years in the National Football League. Well, absolutely, 132 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: I mean you talk about I mean, did they run 133 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: a thousand plays? It seems like they read a thousand 134 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: play I know what they and twelve from like the 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: one inch line, you know what I mean? Yeah, that 136 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: last drive, well it just talks about that just speaks 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: to h Josh and and and the offense ability to 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: convert third downs you I mean you talk about on 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: third down they were thirteen Absolutely, so whenever you're above 140 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: forty five fifty percent. You know, you're gonna be You're 141 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: gonna be efficient, and you're going to continue to keep 142 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: the change moving. And if you don't score point, you're 143 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: gonna flip the field and make them have to go um, 144 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, eighty ninety seventy yards and that's always a 145 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: good thing. So I was very proud of how they battled. 146 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: They battled, they fought, and they grind and winning in 147 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: this league is never easy, and and and they just 148 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, they just kept pulling the rope. What do 149 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: you think about Josh mccount. Now, he's got five touchdowns 150 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: on the ground this season. That of the Jets eleven 151 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: rush touchdowns, but he had like a fifteen. He had 152 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: at least five quarterbacks sneaks. You know absolutely, I'll tell 153 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: you what. You know, he's still in pretty good shape. 154 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't make a living of diving forward, 155 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, because God's defenders. As a defender, whenever I 156 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: see a quarterback, you know, do the quarterback sneak? I know, 157 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: his head is his his head is eligible and guys 158 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: that takes shots at the head. But you know, you know, 159 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: he has one of the best heads of hair in 160 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: the game. You know what I mean. So the blind bomber, 161 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, got that nice thick coat. You know, he 162 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: protects him from all good concussions and stuff like that. 163 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: What do you think about the way McCown it's so 164 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: adept in the pocket he feels the rush and sometimes 165 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: he'll talk it if it's third time and he sees 166 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: a lot of green and from in front of him, 167 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: he'll pick up eleven. But the thing that I've been 168 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: so impressed with is that he slides and he finds 169 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: himself space and finds himself throwing lengths. Well, when you 170 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: think about young quarterbacks, the first thing they do when 171 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: they feel the precious they retreat, which is the worst 172 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: thing to do. It's it's kind of like being in 173 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: the eye of the of the hurricane. It's safe in 174 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: the center. So you know, great veteran quarterbacks understand they 175 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: need to step up and step left and right. You know, 176 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to retreat because what happens is, you know, 177 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: they continue to come. When you retreat back, what you're 178 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: not in a position to see the field and also 179 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: to deliver the ball. And a lot of young guys 180 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: look down, don't that they see the rush you have 181 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: to fill the Russian. You know, give some credit to 182 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: this offensive line. I think they've started to get a 183 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: lot of chemistry together, and they've been healthy for the 184 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: most part, and guys have come in and filled in 185 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: when guys went down abably, and you know, you have 186 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: to tip your hat to them because they provided him 187 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Josh mcconnor is a veteran quarterback. Whenever he 188 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: reads man and man coverage, he understands that everybody's back. 189 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: If he beats the wave of the of the defensive line, 190 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: he understands that everybody's back his turn and he can 191 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: get those yards. And that's what I talked about when 192 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: I mentioned that he was a professional quarterback. Early in 193 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: the year, when everybody was saying, hey, maybe they should, 194 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, evaluate the young guys. Josh McCown gives you 195 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity to evaluate the entire football team. And everybody 196 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: is flourished and everybody is starting to develop and get better. 197 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: And talk about the chemistry between those two receivers right now, 198 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: talk about for the first time since how long you 199 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: got to go back to the t sixties when the 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: Jets had a pair of receivers named George Sower and 201 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: Do Maynard black and white TV. So just the first 202 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: time Jet fans have seen it in color. To two 203 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: receivers go over a hundred yards and back to back. 204 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: He could set back to back, get back to back, 205 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: back to back. All right, So what's cleaned up for me? 206 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: What I appreciate? Hey, buddy, what is the ceiling on 207 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson? Because I'm tweeting during the game and a 208 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: lot of folks are saying, you know, yeah, Robbie Anderson 209 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: and he only could be a two or three. I 210 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: don't know if we know what his ceiling is right now. 211 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: If you look at his stats over the course of 212 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: the sixteen game season, he's on pace for eleven hundred yards. 213 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: And it's not just eleven hundred yards. He's getting into 214 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: the end zone as well. They keep following. I don't 215 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: understand how teams keep falling for the banana and tailpipe. 216 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: Dude is fast. I know he looks like with Khalifila, 217 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's dangly and doesn't look fast. 218 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: But listen, get back. I don't understand why, guys. You know, 219 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: that's guy's own pride thinking though he can't be that fast, 220 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: and they're looking at tape until they see it in 221 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: real life. And he gets on top of you, and 222 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: he's making great plays, and he's learning how to high 223 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: point the ball, and he's starting to to really eliminate 224 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: those drops that he had earlier in the career. And 225 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: he's learning to run the route tree, the entire route tree, 226 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: so guys can't fall off. He's starting to ask some 227 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: more routes to his repertoire, and I think Curse has 228 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: been a tremendous asset for him as he's doing all 229 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: the grimy work. I have some fan duel fantasy analysis 230 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: for you, brought to you by FanDuel. Have all the 231 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: fantasy that football has to offer. B Sports Rich. You 232 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: gotta be looking at the Jets receivers right now, fantasy 233 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: players out there, how about your main curse. Is Robbie 234 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: available in some leagues? He probably he might be at 235 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. You could get Robbie Anderson cheap. 236 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: You're getting Robbie Anderson cheap no more because these guys 237 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: are getting it done on the outside. And how about 238 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: how about McCown Because he's thrown for eight teen touchdowns, 239 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: he rushed for five touchdowns. I mean it's amazing. I mean, 240 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: he's having a career year and that just showed you. 241 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: You know, you never know what you're gonna get, man, 242 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: And that's why we played the game. You know, people 243 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: want to, you know, assume that they understand the narrative 244 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: and and and put people in the boxes. And he's 245 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: breaking out of a box. He's shattering that box all right. Inside. 246 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: The Jets is supported by Selective Insurance. A responses everything, 247 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Eric Allen and Bart's got here Vanderbilts Sports and Spirits 248 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back with the pair of New 249 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: York Jets defensive lineman Xavier Cooper and also a wide 250 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: receiver kick returners Joe gez Nats. Welcome back to the 251 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: Windham Hamilton Park, Eric Ellen, and Parks Scott our player 252 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: guest segment is resigned by M and T Bank Official 253 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Community Back of your New York Jets. I brought up 254 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: a pair of younger Jets for your part, Scott, right now, Joe, 255 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: Joe Nansen, Nick Xavier Cooper, Thank you so much guys 256 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: for joining us. You do this, Oh well, man, it's 257 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: such a program. I'm learning from this dude every days. 258 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: Right there. Yeah, well you might great transitions, man, you 259 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: might have to use a couple of transitions and uh 260 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: your next shot. But we're not going to talk about 261 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: that right now. Running wrong for that. Man. Hey, guys, 262 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: how good did it feel to pick up a W yesterday? Man? 263 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: Felt great? All the hardware you know, it pays off. 264 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: That's that's what we practiced for. That's what we you know, 265 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: watch film for, is to get that win. So it 266 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: was a good feeling. Like man, it was. It felt good, 267 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, to get back get a W. Know they 268 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: always say winning killers, you know everything. Yeah, that felt good. 269 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: What was what was the mood like on the sideline 270 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: when you went down fourteen? Oh, when they came out 271 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: and and Kelsey came out and with the old banana 272 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: to tell pipe Will, what was the what was the 273 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: mood like on the sideline? I think you know, I 274 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: expected the same mood if you was up fourteen, you know, Um, 275 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: I think guys were staying together and guys knew it's 276 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: a long game. A lot of players be made, and 277 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, we came back and you know, handled our 278 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: business and we got to win. Xavier, Uh, I want 279 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: to talk about while we have both of you guys 280 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: up here right now. Your path to the New York Jets. 281 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: You played at Washington State University. Then you were a 282 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: third round pick of the Cleveland Browns in two thousand 283 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: and fifteen. Can you tell us about your time in Cleveland? 284 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: Might you want to make this man we live a nightmare? 285 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: Come on, Cooper talk. My path was unique. You know, 286 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: I was drafted in third round ninety six overall, played 287 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: with Cleveland for two years, and um, you know, was 288 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: on three teams this year. Started off in training camp 289 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: with the Browns, then was with San Francisco for seven games, 290 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: and then came to the Jets. So it's you know, 291 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: bart to tell you, man in this league and nothing guaranteed. 292 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: You gotta work for us an interview every day, So 293 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm learning that. But what about connections, Xavier, Because in 294 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland you had a defensive line coach, right and Robert 295 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: Nunn who got to know you awfully well, and I'm 296 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: sure he had a hand in bringing you here to 297 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: the Jets. Yeah, coach was there last year. We're a 298 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: super young group. Uh, none is a technician, So every 299 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: day you gotta work your craft and get better at 300 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: your craft and you know, I like working with him 301 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: because you know, he helps me be a better D lineman. 302 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: And of course I played with Josh too, uh with 303 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: the Browns two. So you know, I'm happy Josh is 304 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: getting all his success. And we'll get to that in 305 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: a second. Joe, Joe Natsen, you played the Utah State. 306 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: You transferred to Akron undrafted. Oh that's what's up? Yeah, 307 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Pa shamp too. Yeah, part of the fraternity up here. 308 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: He got that big sign talk he'll know what he's like. 309 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: He know, he'll know what his life. I also was undrafted, 310 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: So you gotta feel good so that all three of 311 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: these guys undrafted got the same sign about Joe Joe. Um, 312 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: can you tell us about your time in Indianapolis this 313 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: summer and then coming over here to the Jets. Oh, well, 314 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: you know I want undrafted it. Um. I was blessed, 315 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, to get an opportunity with the coaches. Um. 316 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: I did really well. I felt like I did really 317 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: well in the preseason. You know, you know things didn't 318 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: work work out over there. You should have been there. Hey, 319 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: you picked up that you picked up the nicknames the 320 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: aunt Man and the Fleet in Indianapolis. Did any of 321 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: those stack or did you like any of those? I 322 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: mean that I thought it was gonna stick if if 323 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: I was around, if I stayed around, I thought it 324 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: was gonna stick. Right. But yeah, they kind of they 325 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: kind of gave me that nickname, you know, being you know, 326 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: one of the smaller guys on the team. So you know, 327 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: but it's all good. It's a pound yeah always um. 328 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was like I said, the journey over 329 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: those uh and you know, god, you know less we 330 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna come through another path over here in New York. 331 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: So we're just a good time being. There's a much 332 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: better city. Yeah, indianaps is not a bad city, not bad. 333 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I love New York and India is 334 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: not bad for conventions and stuff. Yeah convention yeah, yeah, 335 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: that's all Okay, that's because they always got space available. 336 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: That's why the all's got convintion. Now, this guy over here, 337 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: Joe Joe Natson seven what but hud Now I'm on 338 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: a good day about once won six day on a 339 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: good day. Yeah, So part this it's a message to 340 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: everybody out there watching New York, just dot com, watching 341 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: on Facebook, listening on the ESPN radio, all the youngsters 342 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: growing up. It's not the size of the man, it's 343 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: the size of the heart. Well that's that's that's why 344 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: I love That's why I love football because you know, 345 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary, who's you know, my linebacker coach in Baltimore. 346 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: You should tell me that greatness comes in all shapes 347 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: and sizes and if you can play, it's a position 348 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: for you in football. It's not like basketball where you 349 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: gotta be you know, six six, six seven. You know, 350 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: you got you got guys like Isaiah Thomas, you know, 351 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: but that's about it. You know, you have greater examples 352 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: of guys that are under six feet. You talk about 353 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: Dante Hall, you know who who are some of the 354 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: smaller guys that you looked up to? It as you 355 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: were trying to say, Hey, I'm gonna there to be great, 356 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and make it to the NFL. Who 357 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: was somebody some people that influence you, Uh, darn S 358 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: Frods was like one of my you know, the biggest 359 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, says that I looked up to, you know, 360 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: being saying Hi, I mean he's a little thicker, but 361 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: you know he kind of like paid the way from 362 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: them showing that I can do it. Then, you know, 363 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: I just start with my dream. You know, I've always 364 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: been against all the odds, so I just you know, 365 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: I just you know, got motivation from you know, those people, 366 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: the saying I can't do it. So I just kept 367 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: I kept going. Eric Allen here with part Scott and Joe, 368 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Joe Natsen and Xavier Cooper. Xavier, what's it been like 369 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: inside that the funtal line room? You coming in after 370 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: being with the forty niners. You gotta acclimate to the 371 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: new surroundings, pick up a new system and then hit 372 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: the ground running. Yeah. Well the system uh that we're 373 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: playing it now, the defense that we're in now, it's 374 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: kind of similar to what I played in last year. 375 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: Um with Ray Horton, he was a d C for 376 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: EST last year and none. You know, it's the same 377 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: cause you know, usually Barton knows. You know, a lot 378 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: of this stuff is carried over from team the team. 379 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a copycat league, as you know, so you know 380 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: it was it was pretty good. Um uh, you know, 381 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: getting in there and learning the guys, learning how the 382 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: guys operate. But it was an easy transition for me. 383 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's super humble, you know, cool to tough to them. 384 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: So I think that's a tough thing coming in just 385 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: mid season basically what both both of you guys have done, 386 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: because not only are you picking off packing moving saying okay, 387 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: I got a new working environment, but you have to 388 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: Both of you guys are in positions where you have 389 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: to prove it on the practice field because if you 390 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: come in and you don't prove it on the practice field, 391 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: you're not getting playing time or you're not here and 392 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: you're looking for a new address. And it's tough. You 393 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: just tough because you have to earn the trust of 394 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: your coaching staff and teammates. But you have limited opportunities. 395 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: A lot of times when your backup, you know, you're 396 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: you're running the scout team. You know play, so you 397 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: know you you have very few opportunities to run the 398 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: offensive prove that you you know, absorbed the offense. So 399 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I commend both of these guys. It's tough 400 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: coming in. And you know, that's what people don't understand 401 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: when they talk about you know, they say, hey, we 402 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: are millionaires and your life is easy, but you'll talk 403 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: about moving from San Francisco to New York. I don't 404 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: think you can go any farther, you know, and picking 405 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: up and leaving your belongings and living out of a hotel, 406 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: living out of a suitcase. You know, you have to 407 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: be persistent, you know, to to to stick. And it's 408 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: tough because you have to ask somebody that's willing to 409 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: stand on the table for you get your opportunities. And 410 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: that's the that's the hard part. Especially been a third 411 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: round draft pick, especially being an undrafted free agent, opportunities 412 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: are limited and far between. Exavier, you're playing at Washington State. 413 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: The head coach at the time was that Mike Leach. 414 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: Now here's the guy before you. You like, Lease never 415 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: made you sleep in the closet then you here. I 416 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: don't think that would have worked out. You would have 417 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: did that. I never Understill, there's no way this man 418 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: with Maybe you got a clause either, man, I think 419 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: I think handle explain to the listeners I'm speaking of. 420 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: When I'm talking about, I think you're talking about Mike 421 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: Leach and uh his days coaching Texas Tech. Yes, Uh, 422 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: there were some disciplinarian issues, I guess with a couple 423 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: of players, But where do he put them? Um? I 424 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: think we're gonna cross this fence. Man, we go, we 425 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: go right to the line. We're gonna go over it. 426 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna go right to the line. He put a 427 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: couple of players made him sitting in closing in the 428 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: dark room because they had concussions. And you know, since then, 429 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: he's he's changed. Don't worry. I said the same thing 430 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: that Mike Leach when he came to the to the facility. 431 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. If I got your back, 432 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, he was was almost just signed up by 433 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee almost. I'm happy you didn't go in to closet. 434 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: But Xavier playing for a guy like Leach at Washington State, 435 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: everybody is thinking offense, offense, offense. Did you feel like 436 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: you were getting to love there? Because the first thing 437 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: you think about it about that program is the Mad Scientists, 438 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: the pirate least Um. Yeah, I mean the amount of 439 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: revs that the offense took, you know, on a daily basis, 440 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: I thought I was playing offense, can tell you the truth. 441 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: But you know, he really never um came over to 442 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: that side. He kind of just let the d C 443 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: be the d C. But it was cool just watching 444 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: how many routes they run and how sophisticated the offense was. 445 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: So it was a good experience. And where are the 446 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: Jets working you predominantly now on that front? Um, I'm 447 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: just a reserve defensive linement for now, and I'm just 448 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: playing all multiple positions wherever they need me, you know, 449 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: when the guys need to come out for rest, I'm 450 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: just jumping in there. You know, where do you fail? 451 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: Your natural position is? My natural position is at the 452 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: three technique being able to rush inside and penetrate inside. 453 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just trying to, you know, find 454 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: my home here. And you know, asked was you know, 455 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: whatever they asked for me to do, I'm trying to 456 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: do it. And you know, just play hard. Bart Scott 457 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: and I do a weekly film review on Jets Flight 458 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: playing eleven thirty Sunday morning on CBS UH and he'll 459 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: go in to the definitions of football terms. But why 460 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: didn't you explain to folks at home watching right now 461 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: or listening on ESPN radio the three technique the three technique? 462 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: So really the three technique is shaded on the guard. 463 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: The guard is located right next to the center, and 464 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: usually the three technique gets to you know, one on 465 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: one matchup. You know his his main objective is to 466 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: control the B gap, you know, penetrate that B gap, 467 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: knocked back the B gap, you know, hold up double 468 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: teams periodically for the winebackers, so guys like Martin come 469 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: in and you know, get that money too. But yeah, 470 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: that's that's the position of the three techniques. Always always 471 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: treated my three techniques very well. Watches food, steaks, whatever 472 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: you want. I like my dude, nice and fat, whatever, 473 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: you won't you got it what you really at the 474 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: end of the year. Absolutely, yeah, I'm very rather. You know, 475 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: before these I pass came out. I know, I know 476 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: you guys, this is all you know. But we had 477 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: our courses, our curses. Was kind of like the first 478 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: iPad that Apple stole the technology from. I always make 479 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: sure they had everything they needed, man, because what happens 480 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: is it's not a glorious position. Man. Half the time 481 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: you're sitting there and sitting on double teams, and you know, 482 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: God comes like me come down. Always make sure whenever 483 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: I was a linebacker, I got downhill fast so then 484 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: they can split the double team and then I can 485 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: do my part as well. But but that's what people 486 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: liked about you when you played UH during your days 487 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: with the Jets, is this guy loved to take on 488 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: guards and if another linebacker was getting the tackle, you 489 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: were fine with that. So a good man. This is long. 490 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: As long as long as you teammates know you have 491 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: the respect from your teammates, that's all you care about. 492 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: You don't care all about all the individual accolades because 493 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, the easiest thing to get in football is stats, right, 494 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: But but to get the stats, who are willing to 495 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: screw it? You know, I can go and brush the 496 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: pass and get a million sacks, But how many yards 497 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: am I gonna get give up by getting up field 498 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: and creating a harder gap for my linebacker to have 499 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: to field. But and that's where you get the real 500 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: respect from is your peerers. Joe Joe, Joe Gez not 501 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: only are your receiver, but you are the Jets primary 502 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: return man. Right now, what is the mentality of a returner? 503 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, my mentality, man, I'm just you know, 504 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to bring a spark to the team 505 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: in the best wa he's possible on you know, can't 506 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: return part returns my UH blocking unit. You know they 507 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: do a good job from me every week and you know, 508 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: just earning the coaches trust on the team. My team 509 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: made his trust. So any way possible I can make 510 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: a spark for the team, That's what I'm trying to do. 511 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: So you gotta be a little crazy to volunteer for 512 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: that because people don't realize, you know, I mean it's 513 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: hard to block these gunners in the league. And you 514 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: got guys that's you know, right in your face. They're 515 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: running you know, forty miles meant yards and the collisions. 516 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, who who who inspired you? Who are something 517 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: to you? Who's the best returner to ever doing? I 518 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: gotta go with I gotta go with d Heston, you know. 519 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean you're watching what he did just throughout his 520 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: career and just you know inspired me. They you know, 521 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: we're trying try to, you know, follow his path. Do 522 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: you think you're close. There's been a couple of times 523 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: I've watched you after they got you down and you're 524 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: hopping to the sidelines like, oh if I just broke 525 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: that tackle, made one stuff this way, I'm to the house. Yeah, 526 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think I'm closed. Uh, Like I said, 527 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to you know, take each week, one 528 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: week at a time, you know, just build my confidence up, 529 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: and you know, because I feel like that's all it 530 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: is for me right now, just you know, trying to 531 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: build my confidence up and then you know that big 532 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: one that's gonna come. So my coach telling me to 533 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: be patient and you know it's gonna come. And what 534 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: about your Joe um offensively, you're getting a little bit 535 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: of working and practice as well or right now predominantly uh, 536 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: special teams right now, I mean it's predominant special teams. 537 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: But I'm getting a little work each week coach, working 538 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: in the practice. You know, I came in late. You know, 539 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: I could leaving the coach, so I wasn't kind of 540 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: I want all the way caught up with the guys 541 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: on as far as the playbook. But you know, as 542 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: week's been going by, I've been getting better in a 543 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: in my playbook. And you know, Coach, he's you know, 544 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: trying to put me in the midst a little bit. 545 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I'll go into the to the suggestion boxing get you 546 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: on that jet suite, you know what I mean, storage 547 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: storage story couldn't been that corner quite yesterday. Well get 548 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: you a shot at it. Exavier what's it been like 549 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: for you to work with a guy, A consummate professional, 550 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Steve mcleanden, who came over here from the Pittsburgh Steeler. 551 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: He's been here a number of years. I think he's 552 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: kind of an unhar old guy along that defensive line, 553 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: a good run stuffer. He's really helped this team out 554 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: um fortify the middle this year. I think. Yeah, Steve 555 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: brings that event savness to the d line. Um Ever 556 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: since I got here. Uh, you know, Steve's welcome me in. 557 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, he's been able to teach me some things 558 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know, because you know, you gotta stay a 559 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: student in this game, because this game will bring you 560 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: to your knees. Every everybody knows that that's played it. 561 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 1: And so you know, I just asked Steve, you know, 562 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: different things about taking on doubles, playing different uh blocks, 563 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: going against different offensive schemes, and he's been really helpful. 564 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: He's he's got like a philosopher way about him, doesn't 565 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: he figus? Uh? He always looks at the big picture 566 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: and is able to grab hold of it and then 567 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: and then articulated in a fine way. Yeah, you know, 568 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: Stephen de Mario great leaders on the defense. You know, 569 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: like I said, I played, I played with the Mario 570 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: and Cleveland as well, and him and Steve. You know, 571 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: bring that vet saving us and guys that you know 572 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: can get you up it if you're filling down or 573 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: something's going on in your life. You know, when you 574 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: test the field with those guys, you want to bring it. 575 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm just I'm just reminded when you say tomorrow. 576 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm reminded because you gotta think I got him when 577 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: he was young and he hit us with the wheelbarrow story. 578 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: You know, he's a rookie and he come in he 579 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: tells his story about getting in the wheelbarrow. We're all 580 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: looking like rookie if you don't shut the hell up 581 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: and go get my doughnuts, man, get down out of here. 582 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's listen. I'm listen. I'm problem. I tell you, 583 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm like a problem. I'm like a proud paper man 584 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: because I've watched you know, the Mario mature and you 585 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: know we talked about at the beginning of the season. 586 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, I think he struggled him and Darren with 587 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: the chemistry, you know, but I don't think I think 588 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: he's playing top five linebacker in his league since you 589 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: know Week three alright, so uh, he's Savory Cooper. Keep 590 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: up the hard work, Joe Joe. Now sin, I think 591 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time because base good things 592 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: happened the folks who visit us on inside the Jets. 593 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: So that's some fantasy advice for you. Maybe pick up 594 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Joe Joe Nansen down the stretch. He's ready to take 595 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: one to the house. Thanks so much for joining us. Guys, 596 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: may be right back. I'm inside the Jets. Thanks. We're 597 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: back here at Vandabilet Sports and Spirits at the Windham 598 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Hamilton's Park Hotel. Nice job defense the lineman Xavier Cooper 599 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: also a wide receiver, kick returner Jojoe Natson, and I 600 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: wish we were on live during the break. We might 601 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: have to start doing that, uh for folks on Facebook 602 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: or watching our livestream on New York tes dot Com ESPN. 603 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: We gotta pay the commercials. But you just had some 604 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: words of wisdom for both of these guys. It may 605 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: get too real for him off off the area. Yeah no, no, 606 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: I've just explained to them. Listen, I've been in the 607 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: in the in the situation that they've been in I've 608 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: been undrafted free agent, you know, just waiting for that 609 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: one opportunity. And I was telling him, listen, you may 610 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: only get one opportunity. If you get to you're lucky 611 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: and to maximize those opportunities, you know, because I've been there, 612 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: and I explained to them what my first start was, 613 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: the situation, um that that that it came under. And 614 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 1: you know, you would have never heard of me if 615 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: I hadn't performed when I had that opportunity. So yeah, well, 616 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: let's to be transparent with the people out there. But 617 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: my first start, after three years of waiting, after being 618 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: a special team's demon, after working your way up during practice, 619 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: you get a start. Not a Sunday afternoon, not against 620 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: any any old team, but it's a Monday night game 621 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. Still. Yeah, absolutely, it was Halloween night, Monday 622 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: night football, right night for Bart Scott Man backer, Jerome Benness, 623 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: Willie Parker, No Ray Lewis, Lewis Hamstring got the week before, 624 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: and everybody was like, hey, you know, Pittsburgh was Pittsburgh 625 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: at that time, and you know, at that time it 626 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: was really about running the ball and and and being physical. 627 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: And here I am this two thirty five pound linebacker, 628 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, and everybody thought, okay, it was a foregoing 629 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: conclusion that the Stellers were gonna run the pump and 630 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I and I took those lights and I signed them 631 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: directly on me, and I dared to be great. And 632 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: then I said, hey, man, if I'm if I'm gonna 633 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: go down, I'm going down swinging. You know, I'm going 634 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: down on my back. They're gonna have to carry me 635 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: out of here. And I was willing to die at night. Literally, 636 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: I was willing to die. I willing do whatever I 637 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: had to do to make sure that I got an 638 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: opportunity and I got a second chance. And I had 639 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: a decent night. I believe I had two sacks and 640 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: eleven tackles, you know, a couple of p b U s, 641 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: and you know, took Big band down a couple of 642 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: times and showed bussy ball. I was a driver that night. 643 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: And the rest is history for Bart Scott. Uh Jets 644 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: defensively against Kansas City gave up way too many big 645 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: plays for their own liking. Kansas City didn't really rush 646 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: the football. Yes, Elx Smith got free for seventy yard 647 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: or you never want to see that I seen them 648 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: pulling away from Guy's man. I gotta check some some 649 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: forty on that defense. So this year though the Jets 650 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: have not given up a lot of big plays defensively, 651 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: What did you see? Why did it happen Sunday? Well, 652 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's tough to be on the island 653 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: with with Tyreek Hill. I mean, you talk about Robby Anderson, 654 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is more compact. Uh, He's faster in and 655 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: out of his brakes. He is the fastest man in 656 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I mean you talk about I mean 657 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: you can't get enough cushion, and you know been on 658 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: one on one and you know, talk about the last 659 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: play and man and man coverage. You know, the Jets 660 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: tried to show that too deep shell. But Alex Smith 661 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: has been there, done that. He's seen all these type 662 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: of looks before. You know, the safety can only hold 663 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: it for so long. And running the bang eight and 664 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: when you have outside leverage, which is you're trying to 665 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: play to whatever help you can get. When you said 666 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: bang eight, bangade is like a post. So imagine running 667 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: straight in that fifteen twenty yards you're going to. It's 668 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 1: going straight to the goal post. And uh, you know, 669 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: it's tough when you have outside leverage because you can't 670 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: get too high on him because if you get in 671 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: front of him and give up the post, you have 672 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: absolutely no help. You have a small chance to have help. 673 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: If it's a dig or something like that. You can 674 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: get either your whole player or your rat player. When 675 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: I say a whole player of rat player, it's the 676 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: un it's the free defender. He can choose to help 677 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: whoever he wants to help in between the middle of 678 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: the field. But he made that help may go to 679 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: somebody else, so you know, you don't know. And and 680 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: you know Tyreek Hill got it got loose. But what 681 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: I was impressed with is they never blinked, you know, 682 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: whenever whenever Kansas City answered, they had a response. And 683 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's what you talk about it saying any 684 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: means necessary. It's not gonna always be pretty, you know, 685 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: but the the ultimate goal is to get the victory. 686 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: And that's what they did. And they did it because 687 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: they showed a lot of grit, they showed a lot 688 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: of character, and they showed that you know that they 689 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: can that they can be in a tight game and 690 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: fighting scrap against an elite quarterback. Listen, good teams find 691 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: different ways to win. And if you had told me 692 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: before Sunday and the Jets were going to be in 693 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: a you in the shootout with the Kansas City Chiefs, 694 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: I would have thought, Hey, maybe this is something you 695 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: don't want to be in. But they found themselves in 696 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: that and they found a way to win. In the 697 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, different guys stepped up. I mean you talk 698 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: about you know, the points they put up. I think 699 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: there's more points than the Giants put up all year combined. Yeah, yeah, 700 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: I said it. Yes, said it's been a horrible year. 701 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of enjoying that a little bit. I'm 702 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: a basking and glory from a former player's perspective. Uh. 703 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: Something that Todd Bowles did uh before this game was 704 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: he made Darrenly inactive and he also uh benched Mohammed 705 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Wilkerson for the first quarter. Now, Todd Bowles is a 706 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: kind of guy, and I know you have trun to 707 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: run amount of respect for him. He does not take 708 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: any issue publicly. If he's got to say anything to 709 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: a player, he's gonna say it behind closed doors. What 710 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: he said to the media was coach's decision we handled 711 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: in the house. I mean you you you got and 712 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: and and that's what you You don't want to publicly 713 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: embarrassed um athlete unless you have to, unless they make you, 714 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: you know. And and Ty keeps everything in the house. 715 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: And I think you know, you don't see any leaks 716 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: this year. You don't hear anybody speaking out. Everybody kind 717 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: of hounds their business professionally. And you know, but what 718 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: that does is send a message. That sends a message 719 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: to your team that nobody is bigger than this team. Right, 720 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: No victory is important, you know. And and I'm not 721 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: picking on the giants, but if they would a nip 722 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: the O'Dell stuff in the butt earlier, I don't think 723 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: Macaw doing These guys you know, get get fired today, 724 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: you know. And it's because you have to. You treat 725 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: everybody fairly. You can't treat everybody the same, but there's 726 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: certain things that you just have to put your foot down. 727 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: And when if you break team rules, nobody is above 728 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: the team rules. Nobody is bigger than the team. That 729 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: that is the message that Todd Bowles ascending. And look 730 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: at the way the guys on the field, Sunday responded, 731 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: next man up. And you know, every but every Sunday, 732 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: something we talk about is that the Jets this year 733 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: are playing good football. Yes, the record is not where 734 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to be, but at five and seven every 735 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: week they come with juice, passion, energy. Last year, at times, 736 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: we watch a lot of veterans struggle through moments basically 737 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: late in their career, and the Jets were getting blown 738 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: out of games. You go and each week thinking, hey, 739 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: this team is gonna give everything they have and they're 740 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance at victory in the fourth quarter. Absolutely. 741 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean in this league, you can get by with 742 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: enthusiasm and passion and emotion and sometimes teams for some 743 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: certain reasons and I don't bring the passion. And it's 744 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: harder when you're a veteran and you've you know, have 745 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: been there, done that. All these guys play like they're 746 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: excited to have an opportunity to play football for a living. 747 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: And that's something that you know should be commended that 748 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: these guys bring it every every week. And that's what 749 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: happens is you know, guys don't bring it in What 750 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: happens is a lot of effort and past can get 751 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: you get you through you know, you're not gonna every place, 752 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: is not gonna always be the perfect play. But it's 753 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: a lot to be said about hustle and grits. De 754 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Mario didn't have to run Alex Smith down if you 755 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: hesitate just for a second, right those on the two 756 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: yards where he where he goes in. But when you 757 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: see that guy, you know, brat Lucy, you decided to 758 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: pull the triggers, then you know that's impulsi, that's that's practice, 759 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: that's that's trading a culture. You're watching inside the Jets. 760 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: We're here at Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits, Eric count and 761 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: part Scott. We're gonna come right back and talk about 762 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: the Jets going to the Mile High City and facing 763 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. All right, we're back here at the 764 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt at Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits inside the Windham Hamilton's 765 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: Park um Part Jets Broncos Sunday in Colorado. Jets so 766 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: far the season, just one road victory. This is a 767 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: on team who has every right to be feeling good 768 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: about themselves, but they only have one road victory this year. 769 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: That was in Cleveland. That was a struggle. How did 770 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: they take this performance against Kansas City and going to 771 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: Denver and take care of business against a team that 772 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 1: has lost eight consecutive games and it's now three and nine. 773 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: But they gotta realize they can't overlook anybody. They haven't 774 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: earned the right to overlook anybody. And if you've never 775 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: played in Mile High before, they're in for a route 776 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: rakening because the altitude is something that can be an issue. 777 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: So you want to make sure that you're efficient on 778 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: getting off the field on third down, and you're you're 779 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: efficient and converting third down. You know, I remember playing 780 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: in the Mile High Stadium when I was with the 781 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, and you know, we told people every every 782 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: day that, okay, listen, the air is thin up there 783 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: is gonna be different, right And until you start really running, 784 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: you don't understand. First of all, you have to worry 785 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: about altitude takenal so I'll be I'm curious to see 786 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: the Jets decided to travel as well, because well, how 787 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: did you used to do that? As well? You can 788 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: do it one or two ways. You can go out 789 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: there a day early, give your body an opportunity to 790 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: acclimate to the to the altitude, or you fly in 791 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: late It takes like twenty four hours for you to 792 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: feel the effects of altitude sickness because you can get 793 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: migraines at night sleeping as the error spin. And also 794 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: you have to adjust because when you start running you 795 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: can get headaches. So it's gonna be important that you 796 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 1: prepare for. It didn't really impact me on the field, 797 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: and it didn't impact me because I was in great 798 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: shape and I was too young and stupid to know 799 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: that I was supposed to be tired. But I did 800 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: see I won't name his name, but I didn't see 801 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: a linement faker injury because he was so tired during 802 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: two minute drill and he couldn't breathe, so he faked 803 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: his own injury. We had a calls of time out. 804 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: This dude laid on the ground for about twenty minutes 805 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: and then got up and spread it off the field. 806 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: We look like, what are you doing about at enough 807 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: air to spread up the film exactly. He couldn't breathe, 808 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: so he laid down here for about five minutes. But 809 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: he made us way the time out during two minute 810 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: drill while we were trying to get a score. So 811 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: it can be an issue, especially for the bigger players, 812 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: and you talk about dbs and it's something that you 813 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: have to just too. But you know, the biggest problem 814 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: could be the no flies on because it's gonna be 815 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: a huge challenge for curse uh And and Robby Anderson 816 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: as they have to deal with Chris Harrison a key 817 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: to leave if he's off suspensions. I believe he's all suspension. 818 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: I believe it's just I believe I believe the team 819 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: should suspend him another game. What he did was bush league, 820 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: but that's a whole another story. They've been struggling as well, 821 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: and it should be a matchup where you know, it 822 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: should be a defensive struggle because you know, when you 823 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: have three quarterbacks, you have none. You talk about Trevor Simeon, 824 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: Paxson Lynch and Oswalder, I mean talk about, you know, 825 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: not really knowing who your leader is, and that could 826 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: be a problem. But they have very capable weapons on 827 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: the outside. I don't know. I think of Maauel Sanders 828 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: is playing, the Marris Thomas is playing. So they can 829 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: get loose. You can't allow c J. Anderson to get 830 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: rolling because when they've had success this year, it's been 831 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: because c J. Anderson has pulled that safety into the 832 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: box and gave those one on one opportunities on outside. 833 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: How important will early in this ballgame be? Considering Denver 834 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: started three and one, everybody in the National Football League thought, Hey, 835 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a playoff team. They might win 836 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: the division, but they'll definitely be in the playoffs. Now 837 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: there is no chance for them to be in the 838 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: postseason under our first year and head coach Fans Joseph. 839 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: They're really struggling. They're scuffling. You've been on teams that 840 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: have struggled before, but I mean eight in a row. 841 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: This is this is something where this is gonna impact 842 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: your mindset. And if the Jets can go in there 843 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: jump on him early against an offense that really can't 844 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: get out of its own way, you gotta figure the 845 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: Jets have a great chance of winning this game. Yeah, 846 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: but you talk about the best pass rusher in the game, 847 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: when you're talking about Bond Milling, you can't. You have 848 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: to count for him as well. They are good enough 849 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: defensively to win the game on their own. You know, 850 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: if you if you turn the football, absolutely, because they 851 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: got ball hawks who if they catch the ball, can 852 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: turn those into points. As well. I think one of 853 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: the most underrated losses this year was the fact that 854 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: they decided to move on from Wade Phillips. It's a 855 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: totally different defense. It's not as aggressive, it's not as creative, 856 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: it's not the three four, and I think they're struggling 857 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: for that. So the Jets are gonna have to make 858 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: sure that they get out early and that they're they're 859 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: they're willing to use all fifty three on the roster 860 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: because you're gonna need them, especially if these guys, you know, 861 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: because they're young, so to be the first time you 862 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: talk about emotional players, you know, you talk about may, 863 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: you talk about lead, you talk about Adams. You know, 864 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: sometimes you may have to keep your composure because I'm 865 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: telling you, if you get on one of these two minutes, 866 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: with these two minutes, and you shoot your wire early 867 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: and you get tired early on in the game, it 868 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: could be a long day. Alright. So the Jets, let's 869 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: break the season in the quarters. They're approaching the final 870 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: quarter of the season at then for this week and 871 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: at New Orleans. The team who has really changed its 872 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: identity uh playing pretty good defense, but they're rushing of 873 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: football Alvin Kamaras taking the NFL by storm. Then a 874 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: home game again on Christmas Eve against the l A Chargers, 875 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: who are hard to say, who are competing for the 876 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: a f C West title, and then you finish up 877 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: with New yuh New England on New Year's Eve. What 878 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: do you see quickly in thirty seconds as far as 879 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: the final quarter to schedule, Well, it's it's always tough 880 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: to play against the wing. But you don't you don't 881 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: know if New England's playing for for um number one 882 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: over our record for home for the bandage um going 883 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 1: against Drew Brees. You know you talk about ingram as well, 884 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: you know that one two punch is really you know, 885 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: running the football is. It's gonna be tough, but you 886 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: know this team is capable of beating anybody if they're 887 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: willing able to put together four quarters of team football 888 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: and make sure they don't turn over the ball. All right, 889 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: come join us next week. That's all other victory Monday