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Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders, a Monday YouTube and podcast

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Speaker 1: edition alongside Judibtez to Mike Garrafalo and Ian Rappaport. I

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Speaker 1: am Tom Peldaicero, coming to you live from my hotel

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Speaker 1: room in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I was informed was informed

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Speaker 1: by yeah, thank you. I think they came in and

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Speaker 1: did that. I got two bets. Actually, according to the

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Speaker 1: IT people, bringing the laptop out when it's snowing was

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Speaker 1: going to be a bad idea. So I am here.

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Speaker 1: I will then be suiting up and getting over there

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Speaker 1: for the Monday night Packers Saints game, which Judy, at

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Speaker 1: least from the Packers perspective, is going to be influential.

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Speaker 1: They are in with a win into the playoffs to

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Speaker 1: a NFC postseason field that continues to get more and

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Speaker 1: more interested.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at least the Packers situation is straightforward right there.

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Speaker 2: I think right it's a straight winning in situation for them.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday definitely through a wrench in all of the simple formulas.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles losing definitely through a wrench in things. They

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Speaker 2: had a chance to clench the NFC East and they

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Speaker 2: didn't when they lost to the Commanders. And then also

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Speaker 2: what they really did, was they really put a dent

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Speaker 2: in their chances to catch the Lions or the Vikings

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Speaker 2: for the number one seed overall in the NFC. It

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Speaker 2: looks like number one seed in the NFC is going

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Speaker 2: to come down to that Lions Vikings game. That is probably,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking when we look at the networks, is probably

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Speaker 2: going to be the final game of the regular season

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night on the last week. But the Eagles look

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Speaker 2: now like they're probably going to be the number two seed,

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Speaker 2: which is not that bad except you really would like

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Speaker 2: to have an extra week off, and note that you

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Speaker 2: have home field advantage throughout the To me, the biggest

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Speaker 2: issue that came out of that game world only get

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Speaker 2: into it is Jalen Hurts his health and when he

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Speaker 2: will return to health and when he'll return to the field,

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Speaker 2: because we saw how different the team looked without him yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That was the biggest thing. And then the other thing

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Speaker 2: that happened. Cowboys were eliminated early in the day, and

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Speaker 2: then they really showed up on Sunday Night football sort

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Speaker 2: of out of nowhere. They had this really impressive effort

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Speaker 2: and they beat the Bucks who were cruising towards the

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Speaker 2: NFC East title. Until then they were on a winning

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Speaker 2: streak and now now they are going to have to

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Speaker 2: chase the Falcons who made the quarterback switch, which we

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Speaker 2: will also talk about, and they won their game. So

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Speaker 2: there was a lot, a lot of movement in the

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Speaker 2: NFC playoff field yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Dean, oh, I felt like Mike might go next.

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Speaker 1: He's eating nuts, his mouse move it, but nothing's.

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Speaker 3: There eating nutsos curious both of you. Okay, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: so here's kind of the thing that I take away. Well,

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Speaker 3: two things. One, I think you're right, Judy. I think

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Speaker 3: that that Sunday night game probably ends up being uh lines,

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Speaker 3: uh is it Lions Vikings? Which will it be?

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Speaker 1: Though? Don't they normally want it to be somebody loses

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Speaker 3: The strength profile.

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Speaker 1: A it is a it's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: A huge team.

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Speaker 3: Have we ever had that? I was trying to.

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Speaker 1: One, it's always been a it's always been a somebody

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Speaker 1: out if they lose, that's usually what they go for,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a division that comes down to to be

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Speaker 1: the NFC West.

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Speaker 3: No, I was just thinking that, like, this is as

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Speaker 3: top heavy a playoff field that I can remember, like,

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Speaker 3: and the whole season's kind of weirdly been like that.

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Speaker 3: And Tom, I started thinking about this when you put

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Speaker 3: which is sort of a weird way of saying it,

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Speaker 3: and there is a lot of that in each particular game,

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Speaker 3: And you know that Sunday night game, if that ends

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Speaker 3: I would also say that the Bucks losing last night

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Speaker 3: the quarterback switch and we'll get into that. Michael Pennix

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Speaker 3: Junior plays has definitely some moments, some ups and downs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean, I I I got I got this.

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Speaker 4: This Eagles team is on the brain for me. I've

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Speaker 4: got him this week Eagles Cowboys on Sunday with Mike

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Speaker 4: McCarthy playing in the I didn't realize this the first

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Speaker 4: got to go beat the Commanders. So we looked at

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Speaker 4: the schedule and I thought last week was the week

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Speaker 4: Wound up and this is the game that that they

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Speaker 4: I got the Eagles team on the brain. And Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts TBD to see how he's going to be able

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Speaker 4: a medical evaluation as well? Tanner McKee six round pick

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Speaker 4: him a lot. I think it was last year of

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Speaker 4: if this winds up being a Tanner McKee week, I

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Speaker 4: am down for it. I can't wait to see that one.

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Speaker 4: But either way, regardless, there are three Eagles storylines here

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Speaker 4: that are all going to be extremely interesting to watch

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Speaker 4: as we get closer to Sunday with the Cowboys game

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Speaker 4: that was moved up to one o'clock, and as a

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Speaker 4: guy who's covering that game, yeah, buddy, get me home earlier.

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Speaker 1: What was the game they got boofletter or the world

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Speaker 1: will be at the Packers game, which is now in

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Speaker 1: the later window, and so I will end up at

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Speaker 3: All about you guys. God, it's so tough to be

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Speaker 3: selfless like me and Judy as opposed to you guys

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Speaker 3: who where you.

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Speaker 1: Never leave home, just there home all day, all the time,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to go buy cookies for lead. That was

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Speaker 4: So you don't know what it's like on Sunday and

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Speaker 4: you guys are both home yesterday, Pep bring me with

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Speaker 4: texts and I've got these huge gloves on that are

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Speaker 4: allegedly touch screen gloves.

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Speaker 3: But no, no, no, no, that's fake.

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Speaker 4: That does not ye.

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Speaker 3: The two FAKEUS technology things are EyeBlack and touch which

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Speaker 3: And then the gloves that you can allegedly text in

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Speaker 3: and you cannot you can't text at all.

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Speaker 4: No, it so cold. You take your like it's got

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Speaker 4: to be something that's worth a tweet or a text

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Speaker 4: that you're taking the gloves off, and you know for

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Speaker 1: So well, here's here's the other part of this, Judy,

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Speaker 1: is we're talking about Okay, you know the Vikings lines

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Speaker 1: potentially be on the collision course in week eighteen. That's,

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Speaker 1: of course, assuming that the Vikings can beat the Packers

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Speaker 1: with the Commanders, they could end up with a better

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Speaker 1: visiting the four seed, they're definitely, I would think, going

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Speaker 1: to be favored in that game. The Packers could be

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Speaker 1: the most dangerous six or seven seed that we've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: these are these are highly consequential games, not just for

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Speaker 2: Right, And we'll talk about the AFC situation, but the

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Speaker 2: situation is the same in the AFC that there are

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Speaker 2: teams that are going to be at the bottom of

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Speaker 2: to be all about positioning again. I think the most

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Speaker 2: is Jalen hurts his health and when he gets cleared,

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Speaker 2: if he gets cleared, if he can play.

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Speaker 1: And it's a concussion, So as we always talk about,

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Speaker 1: there's no real updates to provide. It's a five step

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Speaker 1: It involves clearance in the end by an independent neurologist.

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Speaker 3: Or not a neurologists. It makes me think you're saying urologists, so.

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Speaker 1: an independent, independent and unaffiliated neurotrauma consult How about that.

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Speaker 1: That's where the final clearance needs to come from. The

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Speaker 1: benchmark of okay, what's going to happen is is Jalen

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Speaker 1: I'm sure looking at that game yesterday and Eagles fannerstand, well,

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Speaker 1: if we had Jalen Hurts out there, if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: we're winning that game. But Jade Daniels time and again,

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Speaker 1: Ian in those clutch moments, makes the one play, makes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And like you know, we spend so much time

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Speaker 3: we just report on it, but we spend so much

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Speaker 1: Like again, don't say that we've been here before, we

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Speaker 2: I'm impressed by how everything has turned for that franchise.

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Speaker 4: I still don't understand the ins and outs of that.

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Speaker 4: See I liked it better the other way when no,

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Speaker 2: Gay Ball said it on hard Knocks right, he was

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Speaker 4: Do we know who yet who's gonna do hard knocks

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Speaker 4: But at least they saw it, right you say, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: You could also say, and we're way too early, but

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Speaker 2: On I think they showed they showed the graphic that

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Speaker 1: Book you want the Taylor Swift treatment, Yeah, like Kelsey

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Speaker 1: They made have been out of it in the game

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Speaker 5: You're right.

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Speaker 3: I've long been a proponent of like the Falcons did

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Speaker 3: So like they can give them a hundred million dollars

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Speaker 3: I can say the only thing that matters at all, ever,

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Speaker 3: was necessary. It was good. If he's good, the Falcons

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Speaker 4: Mike, Yeah, it was as as we talked about it

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Speaker 4: The the Falcons have the Commanders next week. They had

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Speaker 4: the preseason, right like it was. I know we saw enough,

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Speaker 4: we saw you know the answer, I'm tell me the answer.

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Speaker 3: The answer is the offensive line was not good enough, okay,

437
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Speaker 3: and they did not want him to get injured in

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Speaker 3: front of the Patrick of Yes, okay, all right, you

439
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Speaker 3: don't believe me, but that's fine.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe you. I don't believe you. I don't

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Speaker 4: believe that's the full answer. You know, they if he

442
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Speaker 4: went out and lit it up, it was only gonna

443
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Speaker 4: put the pressure more on Kirk Cousins. And uh, I

444
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Speaker 4: think that that was a big part of it. That

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Speaker 4: was But I but I hear what you're saying. So

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Speaker 4: you know that this was almost an extended preseason, a

447
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Speaker 4: very extended preseason for him.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I spread a training game for him,

449
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Speaker 5: extended spring training is right, right, So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was not perfect. His receivers didn't make plays for him,

451
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Speaker 4: which they have to do. I mean, I thought, you know,

452
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Speaker 4: the Kyle Pitts experience has been so baffling to me,

453
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Speaker 4: Like every time you think he's hitting it and he's

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Speaker 4: going to hit and didn't make the change. And I

455
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Speaker 4: don't think that the Cousins and Pitts really clicked, you know,

456
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Speaker 4: very well period anywhere. And I thought maybe this was

457
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Speaker 4: going to be it. But then you heard Pitts last

458
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Speaker 4: week say well I just work here. So I said, well,

459
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Speaker 4: let me see how this goes. You get him more involved.

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Speaker 4: I think he had like two targets and one was

461
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Speaker 4: that pass that went off his hands that was picked off.

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Speaker 4: It was just a weird little deal. So now it's like,

463
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Speaker 4: now you gotta hit the ground running. Now it's this

464
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Speaker 4: is the game. This is the game. If you're gonna

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Speaker 4: win the division, you got to make sure you come

466
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Speaker 4: away with this game here because I expect that the

467
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Speaker 4: Bucks to win their final two games. So yeah, let's see,

468
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Speaker 4: let's see if it's a little bit more fluent, not

469
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Speaker 4: just four penix before the people around him.

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Speaker 1: Next week.

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Speaker 2: Well, his stats, first of all, would look a little

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Speaker 2: bit better if not for a few drops that are

473
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Speaker 2: clearly on the receivers. So that's number one. The stats

474
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Speaker 2: would look better. He just I mean, it wasn't perfect

475
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Speaker 2: by any means, and there was a subpar opponent, but

476
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Speaker 2: he just it just looked better. It just looked better.

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Speaker 2: He was he moved better than Kirk could move. He

478
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Speaker 2: threw better than Kirk could throw. It just looked better.

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Speaker 2: And it made me think, like what if they'd gone

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Speaker 2: to him a little earlier, like why you know, like

481
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Speaker 2: like you know, you wouldn't exactly I understand that, but

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Speaker 2: if they were seeing this in practice, I mean I

483
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Speaker 2: understand the money, but you know, yeah, it might be different.

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Speaker 1: Right well, I mean, nobody's ever done it the way

485
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Speaker 1: that they did it, you know, And so you created

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Speaker 1: the moment that you drafted Michael Pennix Junior after paying

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Speaker 1: Kirk all that money. You put yourself in a situation

488
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Speaker 1: where you were going to be in uncharted waters the

489
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Speaker 1: entire way through because nobody's ever paid a quarterback to

490
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Speaker 1: that level and then drafted a quarterback that high back

491
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Speaker 1: to back. So Sunday Night football will be on National

492
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Speaker 1: TV PANDIX versus Jayden Daniels. That will be a fun

493
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Speaker 1: game and we'll see, you know, dan Quinn's gonna, you know,

494
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Speaker 1: cook up a good plan. We'll see if Marshaw and

495
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Speaker 1: Latimore is available because he hurt the hamstring again, which

496
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Speaker 1: shouldn't really, so yeah, he's just he's had chronic chronic

497
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Speaker 1: soft tissue stuff for three four years now. He's missed

498
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Speaker 1: more games than he's played. This is kind of the

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Speaker 1: you know, this is why the Saints we were ready

500
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Speaker 1: to move on from him. So if he misses extended time,

501
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Speaker 1: you know, and we'll see how that would sync up

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Speaker 1: with a potential playoff return. If he does miss time,

503
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Speaker 1: you know, that could be a significant loss, although you

504
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Speaker 1: can't really miss what it barely barely ever had. The

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Speaker 1: other news the Rams, Judy. Now we're in control of

506
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Speaker 1: the NFC West. They got the Cardinals coming up this

507
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Speaker 1: week at home at Sofi Stadium, and it's very straightforward

508
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Speaker 1: win these last two they get in. And for a

509
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Speaker 1: team that started out one and four, we were talking

510
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Speaker 1: about should they sell everybody and Trey Cooper cup and

511
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Speaker 1: trade Stafford and blow the whole thing up. They've got

512
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Speaker 1: so much young talent on that team, and you probably

513
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Speaker 1: you got to give credit to Less Snead and the

514
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Speaker 1: scouts there and Sean McVeigh for being willing to go

515
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Speaker 1: super young. They've completely made over the defensive front and

516
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Speaker 1: some of those older guys, the ones that are still left.

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Speaker 1: They're playing at a high level right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, two things happened with them. First of all, they

519
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Speaker 2: got healthy, right, they got their receivers back, and then

520
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Speaker 2: the defense the last two weeks right his held opponents

521
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Speaker 2: under ten points each, which I mean, obviously we could

522
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Speaker 2: talk for hours about the Jets offense, but like, I mean,

523
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Speaker 2: under ten points is under ten points in the NFL

524
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Speaker 2: is pretty no matter who the opponent opponent is. They

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Speaker 2: are to me, they are like going to be the

526
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Speaker 2: scary team that like, because you just they seem to

527
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Speaker 2: have caught fire at exactly the right time, they're healthier,

528
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Speaker 2: and because I think because they started so poorly, they're

529
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Speaker 2: a little bit off the radar, Like nobody's like really

530
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Speaker 2: taken them seriously, I feel like, and now all of

531
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Speaker 2: a sudden, they're coming on at the end of the

532
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Speaker 2: season in a rush. I mean, you could see this

533
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Speaker 2: coming for the last few weeks that they were going

534
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Speaker 2: to overtake everybody in the NFC West. And the schedule

535
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Speaker 2: works out pretty well for them because they play the

536
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Speaker 2: Cardinals the speak the Cardinals have already been eliminated, so

537
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Speaker 2: that it is what it is. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: they play the Seahawks in the final. I guess that

539
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Speaker 2: could be the final game of the season, right, that

540
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Speaker 2: would be a winning in scenario theoretically. So the schedule

541
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Speaker 2: lines up perfectly for the Rams, and I think they're

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Speaker 2: and they're at home for both of those games, is

543
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Speaker 2: that right? Maybe? And they've already beaten the Seahawks once.

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Speaker 2: So I just feel like things have lined up very

545
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Speaker 2: well for the Rams and they are sort of the

546
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Speaker 2: late rising team that you're probably up. Blake says, yes,

547
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Speaker 2: home for the final two games for the Rams, that

548
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Speaker 2: that's a team that's going to be a problem I

549
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Speaker 2: think in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they are well. I talked to Sean McVay ahead

551
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Speaker 4: of this game and we were talking about the conditions,

552
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Speaker 4: and you know, he said, because I said, it's always

553
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Speaker 4: weird to me, like, oh, it's his team from southern

554
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Speaker 4: California play. But there are guys in the Jets who

555
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Speaker 4: are from Florida and there are guys on the Rams

556
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Speaker 4: who are from Canada, right, so it's not like they're

557
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Speaker 4: not used to the cold weather at all. And his

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Speaker 4: point was, it's all about your style of play, and

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Speaker 4: you're you're the running game that they have travels which

560
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Speaker 4: is amazing because Kien Williams wasn't really thought of as

561
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Speaker 4: this big power back coming and he's moving piles. I

562
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Speaker 4: talked to him about it quickly after the game, and

563
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Speaker 4: you know, he said, credit the offensive.

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Speaker 3: Line because he was freezing. Huh quickly because he was freezing.

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Speaker 4: It was awesome that I knew he was cold. And

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Speaker 4: I was like, it's amazing though for three hours they go,

567
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Speaker 4: it's not that cold. And the game was over and

568
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Speaker 4: one of their players, I forget one of the offensive lamb.

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Speaker 4: I forget which one was. I hear him go get

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Speaker 4: me the hell out of here, and he goes right

571
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Speaker 4: to the locker room and then and Kyen's like shaking.

572
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Speaker 4: While I'm talking to him. I said, go get warm.

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Speaker 4: He goes, thank you very much, well, and he runs off.

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Speaker 4: I was like, these guys were like they mentally block

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Speaker 4: it out and then all of a sudden it hit

576
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Speaker 4: once the game was over. But they've got that that

577
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Speaker 4: style of play. They're really good upfront with some of

578
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Speaker 4: these young guys that are really they're gonna have a

579
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Speaker 4: really good defensive line for many, many years with Braden

580
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Speaker 4: Fisk and some of these other guys. Jared vers and

581
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Speaker 4: all these guys that are developing. So yeah, I mean

582
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Speaker 4: they're they're gonna if they win to the division, they

583
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Speaker 4: play at home, that's great. Then they're gonna have to

584
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Speaker 4: go on the road. I think between the Rams and

585
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Speaker 4: Green Bay, you've got teams that could take that style

586
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Speaker 4: of play on the road in the playoffs and be

587
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Speaker 4: a problem for teams.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of playing in the cold, as I mentioned off

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Speaker 1: the top, not outside because of the snow, I'm just

590
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Speaker 1: gonna give you a quick, quick, little look at this here.

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Speaker 1: So the snow it's not coming down in droves right now,

592
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Speaker 1: but it's been coming down for a while. Can you

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Speaker 1: see those people in the background there way over there

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Speaker 1: by the stop. Oh yeah, I am not that close

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Speaker 1: to the stadium. I would not be walking to the

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Speaker 1: stadium right now. But appears that's that's their plan. They

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Speaker 1: got the snow pants, they got the entire thing going.

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Speaker 1: We have more on that game coming up in Part

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Speaker 1: two of this podcast, will also dive deep on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the things, the AFC playoff picture. We

601
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Speaker 1: still have two playoff spots, We've still got one division

602
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Speaker 1: up for grabs. We'll get into that and a lot

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Speaker 1: more so go over check out Part two. For now,

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Speaker 1: for Ian, Mike and Judy Top we will see it