1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Dear listeners of Hollywood Land, does it feel like you're 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: stuck in limbo? Standing under a flickering street light at 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the corner of Hollywood and True Crime, waiting for the 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: next episode of hollywood Land to drop. I got you. 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywood Land, the Rap Party. What is going on? Everybody? 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Happy New Year? Hop in. Let's put this thing and drive, 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: hit the gas and take a trip to the place 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: we call hollywood Land, the place for obsessives just like you, 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: the movie geeks, the true crime freaks, the ones who 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: like their movie history with a side of grit and grime. 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: I'm Seth Lundy, and today in the Rap Party, we 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: are talking about poison. We're talking about what happened on 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: the set of Titanic. We're talking about this week's full 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: episode subject of hollywood Land, Britney Murphy, as well as 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: next week's subject, River Phoenix. And later in the episode, 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about the new Josh Safti film 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Marty Supreme starring Timothy Shalome, as well as Mike Flanagan's 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: adaptation of Stephen King's The Life of Chuck. And I've 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: got some really exciting news for some brand new additional 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: content coming your way here in the show, very very soon. 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: And of course we're going to check out your voicemails, text, 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: dms and emails. So come on, everybody, let's party. There's 23 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: something in me, get it out. That was what director 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: James Cameron allegedly shouted out loud as he ran across 25 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: the set of his soon to be legendary movie Titanic. 26 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: And James Cameron wasn't alone. Something was inside him, something 27 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: was inside everyone, and was at this moment causing scenes 28 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: of panic, paranoia and complete distress. And how it all happened. 29 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: What happened remains a mystery nearly thirty years later. It 30 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: was around midnight on August ninth, nineteen ninety six, James 31 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Cameron was in Halifax, Nova Scotia with a large cast 32 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: and crew as part of this historic undertaking to shoot 33 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: the movie Titanic, his epic blockbuster that made stars out 34 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: of Leonardo DiCaprio in Kate Winslet. Cameron's decade plus run 35 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: up to that point was impressive. He'd made The Terminator 36 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four, Aliens in eighty six, The Abyss 37 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: in eighty nine, a personal favorite of mine, Terminator two, 38 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: Judgment Day in nineteen ninety one, and then in ninety 39 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: four True Lies. But for as huge and impactful as 40 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: those films were, Titanic was truly unprecedented. It had a 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: budget that was rumored to have exceeded two hundred million dollars, 42 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: which is often cited as the most expensive movie of 43 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: all time at that time. The physical scale was massive. 44 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: It included a near full sized replica of the Titanic 45 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: ship that was built in Mexico and had the largest 46 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: water tank ever constructed for a film, thousands of extras, 47 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: long underwater shoots, danger and potential disaster at every turn, 48 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: and for the industry, perhaps most notable the partnership of 49 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: two major studios, Fox and Paramount to help shoulder the 50 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: wild production costs. Later, Cameron would tell The New Yorker 51 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: that there was a sense of catastrophe around the whole production. 52 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: So it was around midnight, and this was the final 53 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: day of the film's shoot in Halifax before they moved 54 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: on to Mexico. It was a late shoot that day, 55 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: and so the cast and crew had just paused to 56 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: get some food. Craft services had prepared seafood chowder, which 57 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: based on how many bowls. Some people went back for was, 58 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: by most accounts, some of the best seafood chowder they'd 59 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: ever had. And then something strange began to happen. Some 60 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: of the electricians and grips on set began to feel weird. 61 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: One of them, a big guy he was about six 62 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: foot four, started talking really fast, and he asked the 63 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: others if they felt okay. He told him that he 64 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: felt like he was on something, and that's when they 65 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: saw James Cameron frantically run by, yelling it out loud 66 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: that there was something inside him and he wanted it out. Soon, 67 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: more and more crew and cast members began to feel 68 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: the same, about eighty people total. They immediately suspected red 69 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: tide poisoning or bad shellfish, so nurses there on set 70 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: began to hand out activated charcoal in hopes that would 71 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: it would help alleviate some of the symptoms. But some 72 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 1: of the affected weren't experiencing these negative symptoms so to speak. 73 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: Actor Bill Paxton, for instance, seemed to be enjoying the 74 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: feeling that he was having, as did some other crew 75 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: members who had begun to race down hallways in wheelchairs 76 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: doing wheelies, and soon after, at a nearby hospital where 77 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: somewhere between fifty and eighty cast and crew members wound 78 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: up that night. There was a similar disparate scene going on. 79 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: On the one hand, you had people moaning, crying, wailing, 80 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: seemingly in great pain, and on the other hand, you 81 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: had Caleb de Chanel, one of the film's dps, leading 82 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: a conga line down the hospital hall. And why would 83 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: red tide poisoning cause this kind of behavior. Why wasn't 84 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: every person doubled over, puking or shitting their brains out 85 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: because it wasn't food poisoning. It turns out that the 86 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: seafood chowder they had all eaten that night had been 87 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: spiked with PCP aka angel dust. As the film's production 88 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: left Halifax from Mexico, Canadian authorities opened a criminal investigation 89 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: to find out who was behind the nefarious plot. While 90 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: the cops dug for details, rumors and accusations were being 91 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: batted around, the head of the catering company blamed the 92 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: quote unquote Hollywood crowd, saying that a member of the 93 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: cast or crew spiked the chowder with psychedelics in order 94 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: to give them all a big send off before Mexico 95 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: and things just got out of hand, as things tend 96 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: to do when PCPs involved. Another theory was that someone 97 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: had a grudge against James Cameron and a doosed the 98 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: chowder to fuck with him. Cameron dismissed that theory, but 99 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: he did wonder if it was someone who wanted to 100 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: get the caterers in trouble who did it. There was 101 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: one witness who told the cops that one of the 102 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: food service workers had been removed from the set a 103 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: few days prior for selling drugs, but authorities were never 104 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: able to identify who this person was. Nova Scotia Police 105 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: officially closed this case in nineteen ninety nine, and despite 106 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: an effort in just the last year to get the 107 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: authorities to release some of the redacted information in their 108 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: ten page incident report, the question of who laced the 109 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: chowder on the set of The Titanic with PCP remains 110 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: a mystery. What we do know for certain is that 111 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: neither Leonardo DiCaprio nor Kate wins That were affected because 112 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: they were not on set that day. And just this month, 113 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: as part of Variety's Actors on Actress series and a 114 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: conversation with Jennifer Lawrence, DiCaprio was asked about what happened, 115 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: and he simply said that he wasn't there and he 116 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: has no idea. You've got to think, though, that he's 117 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: heard something, that he has some theory about this. Right 118 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to poisoning and theories, there are some 119 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: out there in relation to the tragic, untimely death of 120 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: Brittany Murphy, who died at the age of thirty two 121 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: allegedly of pneumonia, but her father, on others, suspected something 122 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: far more villainous. You can hear that whole story in 123 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: our scripted, sound designed episode of Hollywood Land Right Now, 124 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: which just dropped in your feed a few days back. 125 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: This prompted me to ask you all the question, what 126 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: are some of the best movies about poison where poison 127 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: plays a large role in the plot, And y'all delivered 128 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: big time. I'm going to get into your answers right 129 00:07:48,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: after this. Okay, before I dive into more poison talk 130 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: here than the movies, I want to tell you guys 131 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: about something really exciting that is coming down the proverbial 132 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: pike wicked fast, like this Friday fast. Okay, I've hinted 133 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: this a little bit in the last couple of weeks, 134 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: but we recently did these holiday bonus episodes of the show. 135 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: I had both Jake and Matt on to talk about 136 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: Christmas movies and New Year's Eve movies, and I had 137 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: so much fun with that, so much fun as talking 138 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: about movies, that I wanted to find a way to 139 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: make that a more permanent feature here in Hollywood Land. 140 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: So put on my thinking cap, and this is what 141 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: we came up with. Starting this Friday, we're bringing you 142 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: a third weekly regular installment of the show that we're 143 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: calling The Screening Room. This will be an opportunity for 144 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: me to take a deep dive into one movie in particular, 145 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: and that will be related either to our full episode 146 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: archives subject from that week, or related to that week's themes, 147 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: like the things that we've been talking about. So, for instance, 148 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: this week, we had our episode on Britney Murphy on Monday, 149 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: and then today in the Rap Party we're talking about 150 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: poison and film, and so on Friday, I'm gonna be 151 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: talking at length about the film Phantom Thread in the 152 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: Screening Room, which is Paul Thomas Anderson's incredible movie with 153 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: Daniel day Lewis and which has poisonous mushrooms at the 154 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: center of its plot. Also, for the new year, we 155 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: are programming and curating the feed so that week to 156 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: week and month to month, episodes and subjects are organized 157 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: by theme. So for the month of January, we are 158 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: featuring La Nightmares. That's our theme. So We've got episodes 159 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: coming your way this month on River Phoenix Elizabeth Short 160 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: aka the Black Dahlia, Robert Blake, and Heath Ledger, and 161 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: I'll be pairing those episodes with screening room episodes on 162 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: the films running on Empty La to Confidential in Cold 163 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: Blood and The Dark Night. Okay, you stoked, I'm stoked. 164 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: And speaking of next week's episode on River Phoenix, the 165 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: question of the week for next week is as follows, 166 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: what actor's death hit you the hardest? I want to 167 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: know and I want to know why hit me up 168 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: At six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. 169 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: You can leave a voicemail or send a text. You 170 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: can send an email to Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com. 171 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: You can of course DM me on the socials at 172 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Disgrace lamb pod or if you're a member of All 173 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: Access over on Patreon, just jump on the chat over 174 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: there and give me your answer. What actor's death hit 175 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: you the hardest? Okay, So before we get into this 176 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: week's question of the week about poison, I mentioned those 177 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: special bonus holiday episodes of the show and real quick, 178 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to play you guys this voicemail from Barry 179 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: in the nine oh four Matt hook me up with 180 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: that voicemail nine oh four. 181 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: Listening to the episode this morning, the after party with 182 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: Zeth and Jagash, it was hilarious. By the way, Thank you. 183 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: I'm smart. I don't thinks that's a good one. But 184 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: in the world of Biggie Knights, uh PTA with that's 185 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: my favorite PTA movies was Biggie Nights. 186 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: Uh One. 187 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: I always fall through is anything I do, anything, I 188 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: do anything stupid I do the Phillips Seymour Hoffen Hoffman 189 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: forgging you fugging fugging for and for the people who 190 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: get it, it's frigging hilarious and if they don't get it, 191 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: then they just don't know. But it's one of my 192 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: favorite quotes from that who. I use it all the time, 193 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: just like that I'm smart, which is also frigging people. 194 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: I might have to start putting in a lexicon anyway, everybody, 195 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Jakes, thanks for all the content over the holidays. 196 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: Minutes getting me through. 197 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: Back rolla Barry Philo, Seymour Hoffen and Boogie Knights absolutely 198 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: crushes it, just like he crushed pretty much everything he 199 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: was in. He was especially good in those smaller roles 200 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: Boogie Knights, Punch Drunk Love, like where he gets to 201 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: show up for a scene here or there and just cook. 202 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: I love this reference. That's right up there with Fredo 203 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: for me. It's also up there with DiCaprio and Once 204 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: upon a Time in Hollywood when he goes back to 205 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: his trailer and has that meltdown about missing his lines. 206 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, like you're sitting you know, you're like a 207 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: baboon or whatever, and it's so great. Of course, Barry 208 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: is referring to if you missed it, my impression of 209 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: Fredo and The Godfather, and in general the comfort we 210 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: take when we can, you know, cut potentially serious moments 211 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: in our lives with humor from movies. Quoting movies I 212 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: find to be an excellent way to calm me down. Barry, 213 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: appreciate the call, Appreciate the Boogie Knights shout out there. Now, 214 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: let's get onto this week's question of the week, That 215 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: girl is Poison movies with poison? I asked you, you 216 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: told me. Got a text here from Laura in the 217 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: two to one six, who writes, Hey, Jake and Zeth, 218 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Happy holidays. This is my first text. But I've been 219 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: listening forever and really appreciate all you do answering the 220 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: question about movies centered on poison. There's only one response. Clue, 221 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: Mister Body's poisoning starts the incredible Shenanigans in that classic 222 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: Thanks Laura, Laura, great call. I'd forgotten all about that. 223 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: Clue is a criminally underrated comedy from nineteen eighty five. 224 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's underrated because it was based on the board game? 225 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: Is this the only movie, by the way, that we've 226 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: gotten based on a board game? To my knowledge? There's 227 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: no Monopoly movie or Risk or Scrabble? Can you imagine 228 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: this Scrabble movie? I can't. I'm sure somebody out there 229 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: has written the specscript for it, though. Anyways, Clue, that's 230 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: got Eileen Brennan, Madeline Kahn, Tim Curry, Christopher Lloyd, Michael McKean, 231 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: Martin mull great cast, great script. So much better than 232 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: one would think based on its source material. Not that 233 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: Clue isn't a great game. It's one of my favorites, 234 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, It's just that's typically not how a great 235 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: film originates from a board game. And I'd also like 236 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: to note here for the record, not to sound like 237 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: a creep or anything, but when you're like eight or 238 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: nine years old, as I was when this movie came out, 239 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: and you see it for the first time, and you 240 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: see Colleen camp as you vet the French Maid and 241 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: her made outfit, that was. That was around the time 242 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: I was beginning to take notice of that kind of thing, 243 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh man, what is happening. Formative 244 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: formative memories there in the movie Clue for me and 245 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure many others. Laura, thank you so much for 246 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: getting in touch. Thank you so much for listening all 247 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: these years. Really appreciate it. Glad you reached out. Got 248 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: another Let's see, this is an email here from Jason, 249 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: says Jason in the eight four five here, Happy Christmas 250 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: is Reversal of Fortune. A poison film is Insolin Poison. 251 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: It's a great black comedy. It would be better with 252 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: less law school. However, also Phantom Thread, O MG is 253 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: Suspicion by Hitchcock a poisoning movie? I say, yes, that's 254 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: my five cents. Jason. First of all, you're reading my mind. 255 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, Phantom Thread. We've got that coming 256 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: your way on Friday in the screening room, baby. But yeah, 257 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: I think Reversal of Fortune definitely counts because Jeremy Iron's 258 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: character is charged in that movie with giving his wife 259 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: played by Glenn Close, an overdose of insulin. So yeah, 260 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: it's basically poisoning somebody. If you guys don't know this movie, 261 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: Reversal of Fortune, this is from nineteen ninety, directed by 262 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Barbas Schrader, who had just made Barfly with Mickey Rourke 263 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: right before this, the Charles Pokowski movie. Jeremy Irons won 264 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: the Oscar for Best Actor in this, by the way, 265 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: beating out Kevin Costner for Dances with Wolves. He beat 266 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: out de Niro for Awakenings, Gerard de Pardieu who was 267 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: in Sierra de Bergerac, and also Richard Harris in the Field. 268 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: And Jason, you mentioned Suspicion, the nineteen forty one Hitchcock 269 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: film with Kerry Grant and Joan Fontaine, which you know, 270 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: I got to think that that Pta must have used 271 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: that as part of his inspiration for Phantom Threat. It 272 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: definitely feels like a spiritual predecessor, the psychological thrillerness of 273 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: it all to that film. So thanks Jason so much 274 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: for calling out those movies. Back over to the text 275 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: machine here, I got another text from the three oh 276 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: four that all it says is DA, And yes, three 277 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: oh four absolutely, this was one of the first ones 278 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: that came to mind for me when I was thinking 279 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: about a movie to cover in the screening room this week. 280 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: The ORIGINALDA was a film noir from nineteen fifty. It 281 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: was remade in the eighties with Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan. 282 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: It opens with this guy who like goes to the 283 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: police station to say that he's been poisoned, and he 284 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: basically has to trace back what happened to figure out 285 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: who did it to him. You'll hear me talk a 286 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: little bit more about this movie in the sc reading 287 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: room on Friday, but three or four. I appreciate you 288 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: bringing this up. I think the original DA is one 289 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: of the first fill noirs I saw back in high school. 290 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: I forget why I did if I sought it out, 291 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: but I do remember the poster for the remake with 292 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: Dennis Quaid and he's like lying on top of this clock, 293 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: and that really intrigued me. And I probably read about 294 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: it in Premiere Magazine, which I was addicted to at 295 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: the time, and I'm sure they mentioned the og version 296 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: and all that. But three or four appreciate the memory, 297 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: appreciate the calling out that film. Okay, let's go over 298 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: to Patreon for a second. In the chat over there, 299 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: all access Patreon members of contributing to this conversation. First 300 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: of all, Allison, she said, to start the poison movie list, 301 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: let's go classic and hilarious. One of my top five 302 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: old black and white films, Arsenic and Old Lace. I 303 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: love this movie. All the characters are perfectly played, Carry 304 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Grant's facial expressions, the Aunties, Teddy Roosevelt. It's all too good, Alison, 305 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: great pick. Love that Jackie Wrights, the mirror cracked classic 306 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Who'd Done It? With Liz Taylor beautifully over and moting. 307 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: And if I may bend the rules a little to 308 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: include poisoning the mind, the absolute classic Gaslight Boom, Jackie. Yes, 309 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: you may bend the rules. I think Gaslight definitely counts. 310 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: My guy Maddy b Matt Boden had a production here. 311 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: He also chimed in on Patreon. He said, for movies 312 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: that feature poison, how about the Princess Bride rip Rob 313 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: Reiner and yet who can forget the uh you know 314 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: the classic scene of Wits there with between Wesley and 315 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: the Sicilian played brilliantly by Wallace Sean drinking the poison 316 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: and then going completely limp from the poison. Yeah, this 317 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: is a great call, mat This is a at heart 318 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: a poisoning movie. I hadn't even thought about this. He 319 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: spends like half the movie, uh, not being able to 320 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: move and being I guess that's also wait, that's also 321 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: because he was tortured, right, he was tortured by the 322 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: by Christopher guests as the man who's missing the finger 323 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: on the on the rack as well. I guess so 324 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. But anyways, great call, Great call everyone. 325 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: So here, in addition to Phantom Thread, which we'll talk 326 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: about on Friday, here is our initial list made by 327 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: all of you for our poison movies. Here. Okay, we've 328 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: got Clue, Reversal of Fortune, Suspicion, doa Arsenic and Old 329 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: Lace the Mirror, Cracked, The Princess Bride, and Gaslight. I'm 330 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: liking this list, guys. All kinds of different eras and 331 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: genres represented here. Dramas, comedy, thrillers, more. Great job. Thank 332 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: you so much for everyone for chiming in on that, 333 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: and apologies for those of you I did not get to. 334 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: Please keep those messages coming and we'll get them on 335 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: here at some point. Okay, before I move on to 336 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: other things, I wanted to read this text from the 337 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: eight four three, which is relevant to something we were 338 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: talking about and I think last week in the episode, 339 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: but this text reads Zeth. It's Charlie from Charleston, South Carolina, 340 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: and I just listened to your episode about Christmas in 341 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: the experien of church every Sunday and how on the 342 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: high Holidays, always thinking about where the heck did all 343 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: these people come from. Well, let me take it up 344 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: a notch for you. I was an altar boy in 345 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: a Catholic church for eight years and I'll never forget 346 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Christmas of eighty nine. I was ten years old and 347 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: chosen to be the aultar boy that rang the bells 348 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: at the blessing of the Wine and Communion. Well, wouldn't 349 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: you know it. I rained the bells and the first 350 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: time I rained them, one of them fell and clattered 351 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: to the floor on the marble steps of the altar 352 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: and tumbled all the way down. The entire church was 353 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: dead silent. I was mortified, picked up the missing bell 354 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: and rang it in one hand while ranging the other 355 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: two on the other hand. To this day, I still 356 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: run into my former members that introduced me to their 357 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: kids as the guy I told you about that dropped 358 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: the bells. Oh what a Christmas has had. Merry Christmas 359 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: is Zeth and Jake, and thank you for all y'all do. 360 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: Rock a rolla Charlie love that. Thank you so much 361 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: for sharing that story. I can relate. I have so 362 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: many of my own stories of embarrassment at church. I 363 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: think because it was this place where everything was so 364 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: perfectly arranged and executed, and you had to dress nice 365 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: and sit still, and it was dead quiet at times, 366 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: and it felt like if you shifted the wrong way 367 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: in the pew that it made some kind of noise, 368 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: that all eyes would be on you. Maybe that was 369 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: just a me thing. I wasn't raised Catholic. By the way, 370 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: We went to a Methodist Church, so we didn't have 371 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: bells and stuff, but we did do the whole wine 372 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: and communion thing. I'm pretty sure back in the day 373 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: that was real wine. They gave us guys, even the kids. 374 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: Maybe they still are. I don't know. Times were different 375 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: back then, though, that's for sure. Charlie, Merry Christmas, Happy 376 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: New Year. Thanks for being here with us, and thanks 377 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: to the rest of you as well, all of you 378 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: listening right now. Whether or not you're getting in touch 379 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: and joining the conversation, you are appreciated big time. And 380 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: maybe this week is the week you'll reach out and 381 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: let us know what you're thinking. Maybe you're gonna let 382 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: me know which actors death hit you the hardest, and 383 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: why get in touch. Six one seven nine oh six 384 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: six six three eight. You can text, you can call, 385 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: You can email Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com. You 386 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: can hit me up on the socials at Disgrace Pod. 387 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: You can jump in the chat over an all Access 388 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: and Patreon, and maybe I will play your voicemail or 389 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: read your message on next week's rap Party. Okay, I 390 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about a pair of incredible movies I 391 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: saw over the weekend. But first let's take a quick break. 392 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: Hang tight, and I'll be back in a flash. Yo, gang, 393 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the rap parties. Zeth Lundy here with 394 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: you as always. We had a great Christmas week here 395 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: in my home. I hope you did as well. My 396 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: wife surprised me with a signed copy of Cameron Crow's 397 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: new memoir The Uncool, which I'm reading this very quickly. 398 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: I'm more than halfway through, and i'll probably finish it 399 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: in the next day or two. If you're a fan 400 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: of his movie Almost Famous, and I'm assuming a lot 401 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: of you are, this is the true story that inspire 402 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: that movie, The story of how Cameron Crowe became the 403 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: youngest writer at Rolling Stone magazine back in the seventies 404 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: and had the kinds of experiences that I don't think 405 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: anyone else before or since has had. It's wild how 406 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: much of the movie is true. But what's really fun 407 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: for me as a writer myself is to see how 408 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: he took all these kinds of real personal moments and 409 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: shape them into the film's narrative. Like he didn't just 410 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: tell his story the way it happened. He used a 411 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: bunch of real things from his life in order to 412 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: piece together something completely different and completely new, which is 413 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: really fascinating to me. Again, I'm only halfway through this, 414 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: but I highly highly recommend it if you're into if 415 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: you like Almost Famous, or you're into the world of 416 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: seventies rock and roll, or you're into just a fascinating 417 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: story about a kid who was a teenager who found 418 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: himself hanging out with you know, the Alman Brothers and 419 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Chris Christofferson and Zeppelin and everybody else. What I really 420 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: want to get into here though, in the recommendation section 421 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: are two of the movies I saw over this past week. 422 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of stuff this past week, actually, 423 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: but I just want to talk about two things right now, 424 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: and they are Marty Supreme and the Life of Chuck. 425 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Life of Chuck first. If you remember, 426 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: I talked about the Stephen King short story or novella 427 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is that it was based on. This movie 428 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: is based on a few months back. When I read 429 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: that in preparation to see the movie. I liked the story. 430 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: I didn't love it. I liked it. I was a 431 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: little perplexed by it in places. But now here's the thing. 432 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: The movie parted the clouds for me and made everything 433 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: make sense. And I also think in large part it's 434 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: because this movie is a perfect example of how cinema 435 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: can elevate source material, which is not always the case. 436 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: You often hear people say the book was better and 437 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: all that, and in many cases the book is better, 438 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: but this movie is just too good. I wrote over 439 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: on letter but when I logged it that it is 440 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: a magic trick of a film, and structurally, formally, that's 441 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: what it is. It pulls this incredible magic trick on 442 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: you as it plays out, and it does so with 443 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: such emotion and feeling. Matt, sorry to put you on 444 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: the spot here, but Matt and I on are conversations 445 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: about film. We talk about movies a lot offline, and 446 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: Matt always talks about how Christopher nolan movies leave him 447 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: feeling cold. This felt This movie felt to me like 448 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: what if Christopher Nolan made a movie with heart at 449 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: the center. Because it has that complicated puzzle piece contraption 450 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: thing going on that Nolan is so good at. But 451 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: the emotional core of this film is so huge, And Matt, 452 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: I take your point because this movie got to me 453 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: way more than any Nolan movie ever has emotionally I mean. 454 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: This was written for the screen and directed by Mike Flanagan, 455 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: who you may know for his great Netflix horror shows 456 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: like The Haunting of Hillhouse and Midnight Mass Check those 457 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: out if you have not seen them. He's also made 458 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: some of the best Stephen King adaptations at the last 459 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: decade or so. He's the one who directed the great, 460 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: great adaptation of Doctor Sleep. He also made one that 461 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: is lesser known, called Gerald's Game, that has a moment 462 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: in it of a dude standing in the corner of 463 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: a room that I have not been able to shake 464 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: since I saw that movie. It haunts me. I wake 465 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and think, this 466 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: dude is in the corner of my room. Now, like 467 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: last week, it happened. It happens all the time. Incredible image. 468 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: Gerald's Game, pretty dope movie. But this film, The Life 469 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: of Chuck, is a different gear for Flannagan. It's a 470 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: different gear for King two as it's not a horror story, 471 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: though there are some elements of horror in it. You 472 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: could say. This debuted at the Toronto Film Festival, where 473 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: it won the Audience Award there, and so when it 474 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: hit theaters earlier this year, it hit theaters with a 475 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: lot of buzz, but then it just kind of fizzled out. 476 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot of critics and a 477 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of publications released in their year end lists right now, 478 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: and very few, if any, of them have this movie 479 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: the on it, which is crazy, I think, because it's 480 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: so good. Flannagan has a great command of the story, 481 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: the way that the narration by Nick Offerman interacts with 482 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: the characters, these great performances by Tom Hilson and Mark 483 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: Hamill and oh my god, Mia Sarah, the legend Mia Sarah, 484 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: who is Sloan Peterson in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. If 485 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: you're not prepared for her in this movie, all of 486 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, wait a minute, is that is 487 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: that Sloane? It's Sloane. I'm sure some people have written 488 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: this off as too sentimental, but I think it's sentimental 489 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: in all the right ways. It pushes the buttons in 490 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: all the right ways the way that the movies are 491 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: supposed to do it, and it just really fit well 492 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: into holiday programming for me. It's got shades of It's 493 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: a wonderful life throughout. You know, it ponders life and loss, 494 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: meaning and the moment I found out just to be incredible. 495 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: You can stream it right now on Disney Plus and Hulu. 496 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: Also this weekend, I went to the theater to see 497 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: Marty Supreme, which is a new film by Josh Saftie 498 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: starring Timothy Shallome as Marty Mauser, who's an ambitious table 499 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: tennis player from New York City in nineteen fifty two. 500 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: This is Josh Saftie's first film without his brother Benny. 501 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: They've collaborated on numerous times movies together, most notably Good 502 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: Time and Uncut Gems with Adam Sandler, which is one 503 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: of the most heart pounding experiences at the movies that 504 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: I've had in the last decade or so. So the 505 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: brothers just split up recently to pursue different creative paths, 506 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: and Benny put out his new film The Smashing Machine 507 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: this year with Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and then of 508 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: course Josh puts out Marty Supreme. And it's kind of 509 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: interesting how they went in separate directions, but they both 510 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: made sports movies ultimately, you know. Bottom line for me, 511 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: I haven't seen The Smashing Machine yet, but bottom line 512 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: for me, Marty Supreme was electric. One of the best 513 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: times I've had at the movies ever. Really, I put 514 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: it up there with Sinners and one battle after another 515 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: for movies this year that felt unprecedented, Like, all three 516 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: of those films are completely and wholly unique, and all 517 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: three of them have unique relationships with music. So in 518 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: the case of Marti Supreme, this film takes place in 519 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty two, but the music is all nineteen eighties. 520 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: The neil drops include eighties tracks by Tears for Fears, 521 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: New Order, Peter Gabriel Alphaville, and then the score, which 522 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: was composed by Safe's frequent collaborator Daniel L. Patten aka 523 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: one O Trix Point Never is very much rooted in 524 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: eighties era synthpop. So right off the bat, you're getting 525 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: this very potent concoction that the images you're seeing take 526 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: place in one era and the music you're hearing takes 527 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: place in another, and it just lifts the film into 528 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: its own time and space, if that makes sense. But 529 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: then there's the fact that at its core, this is 530 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: a sports movie, okay, And also speaking of the eighties, 531 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: sports movies of course were this huge device in that decade. 532 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: Not so much any more. I mean, they still make 533 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: sports movies, but not the way that they used to. 534 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: And so I don't know if I'm reading too much 535 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: into this, but it's almost like it's reclaiming some of 536 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: this stuff. It's reclaiming, you know, eighties cinema, eighties pop music, 537 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: which have at times been historically just tossed aside. You know, 538 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: like the eighties was too commercial, it was too corporatized, 539 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: especially in the case of film. You see the oteurs 540 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: of the nineteen seventies who had all this power and 541 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: influence and then they sort of you know, overextended themselves 542 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: and it was all taken away from them, and then 543 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, cinema suffered for these sins of these seventies 544 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: o toros over the next decade. But I think it's 545 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: super reductive. Some of my favorite films are from the 546 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. So I like how Marty Supreme just goes 547 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: for it in that way. It just goes for it. 548 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: It's ambition musically, narratively, visually, it matches the ambition of 549 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: its main character, which is the ambition of a young 550 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: person who makes a lot of bad decisions in order 551 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: to realize his you know, make his mark on the 552 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: world and be somebody capital s which we've all been there. 553 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: Chalomey has been on this rise, on this tear, and 554 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: this is the absolute pinnacle of what he's been able 555 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: to do so far. In my mind, I can hardly 556 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: imagine him getting better than this. But I'm excited to 557 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: see what the future holds. And you know, Josh Safti 558 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: is just operating at this at this like high level 559 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: right now. This this film doesn't have the sustained anxiety 560 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: of uncut Gems, but it has so many insane moments 561 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: in sing dialogue. You never know where you're going, but 562 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: when you get there, especially when you get to the 563 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: end and everything falls into place and you zoom out 564 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: and you see what they've done, it's pretty breathtaking. This 565 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: is probably the ending of the year in my eyes 566 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: for movies. I'm not gonna spoil it here since it 567 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: just came out, but go see Marty Supreme and then 568 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: tell me what you think. Six one seven nine oh 569 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: six six six three eight. Okay, I'm gonna pause here 570 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: for another quick break, but I promise it'll be quick 571 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: and painless. So hang in there and I'll see you 572 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: on the other side. All right, everybody, welcome to twenty 573 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: twenty six, and welcome back to the rap party, where 574 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap it all up now in a nice 575 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: bow for you here. Don't sleep on next week's question 576 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: of the week, What actor's death hit you hardest? 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Now, 597 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: before we part, until we meet again, Let's give it 598 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: the old recap number one in your feed right now. 599 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: Our episode on Brittany Murphy number two coming this Friday, 600 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: the inaugural episode of our new weekly feature, The Screening Room, 601 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: in which I talk at length about the film Phantom Thread. 602 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: Number three. Next week on Monday, our episode from the 603 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: archive on River Phoenix number four. Over in the feet 604 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: of our sister show Disgraceland, we have our episode on 605 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: Derek and the Dominoes, which also tells the story of 606 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: the Christmas tragedy of the Lost and Family murders way 607 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: back in nineteen twenty nine, number five, unlock ad free listening, 608 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: exclusive audio and video, and the first episode of our 609 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: new video pod, all about Goodfellas right now by going 610 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: to disgracelandpod dot com, or you can just jump over 611 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: to Patreon. That's Patreon dot com slash Disgraceland, and now, 612 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: in honor of this week's episode, Here's what America was 613 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: watching at the movies the month of December two thousand 614 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: and nine, the month that Britney Murphy died at the 615 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: age of thirty two. Number one Avatar directed by James Cameron. 616 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: Number two Alvin and the Chickmunks, The Squeakle directed by 617 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: Betty Thomas. Number three Sherlock Holmes directed by Guy Richie Says. 618 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: Number four The Blind Sign, The Princess directed by John 619 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: Lee hanctored by John the Most seven. Number five, The 620 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: Princess and the Frost Nancy Myers directed by John Musker 621 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: and Ron Clements direct christ Number six Jesus, The Twilight Saga, 622 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: New Moon in the directed by Chris Whites directed. Number 623 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: sevens gets called The Kames directed by Nancy Myers, quit 624 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: talking and start mixing. 625 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: Col