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Speaker 3: Just returned from the Paris Olympics after winning three gold
Speaker 3: medals for Team USA. Congratulations, you must be over the moon,
Speaker 3: good lord. Three gold medals, one gold in the two
Speaker 3: hundred meter sprint, another goal in the four by one
Speaker 3: hundred relay, another gold in the full.
Speaker 2: X four hundred relays.
Speaker 3: I feel like I just ran a marathon just getting
Speaker 3: through all of your accolades.
Speaker 2: This is amazing. Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Honestly very relieved to be back in America. I was
Speaker 1: overseas for about a month and just so grateful.
Speaker 2: I really am. This is years in the making.
Speaker 1: I've been training for this moment for five years, and
Speaker 1: so to have it all turn out this way is
Speaker 1: truly incredible for me.
Speaker 2: Oh you two Tamras.
Speaker 3: We just saw you win the two hundred meter race.
Speaker 3: You were so far ahead everyone else, Like, what was
Speaker 3: the moment that you realized, Oh my god, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Win the gold.
Speaker 1: So truthfully, I had been envisioning myself winning that race
Speaker 1: over and over again the entire time that I was
Speaker 1: in Paris, and so in my head when I got
Speaker 1: into the starting blocks, I had already won the race.
Speaker 1: I had believed that I was an Olympic champion. The
Speaker 1: true moment that I realized I had one was coming
Speaker 1: off the curve. Anyone who watches my track career knows
Speaker 1: that I finished my races really strongly, and the last
Speaker 1: hundred meters is my bread and butter. And so if
Speaker 1: I can come off the first hundred meters ahead, I
Speaker 1: kind of I know I've won the race.
Speaker 2: So thank you.
Speaker 3: You essentially manifested this for yourself. Is there anything you
Speaker 3: can do about the upcoming election? Acting for a friend?
Speaker 3: One of my favorite moments and all of this was
Speaker 3: getting to see your mom's reaction the moment that you won.
Speaker 3: Can you talk about how instrumental she's been throughout your journey?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I can go on and on about my mom and
Speaker 1: her support. So I grew up with them. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: give it up.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, my mom has believed in me since since
Speaker 1: I've been born. I grew up with a single mom.
Speaker 1: I grew up with her and my twin brother, and
Speaker 1: she has done everything for us from you know, she
Speaker 1: started as a waitress and then worked her way and
Speaker 1: now as a professor of an endowed Chairman professorship at
Speaker 1: the University of Michigan, and so I watched her. I've
Speaker 1: watched her my entire life work really hard for something
Speaker 1: and to make her dream happen. And she's always instilled
Speaker 1: in me the importance of not only education, but going
Speaker 1: after your dreams and giving back to your community. And
Speaker 1: so she was the best role model that I could
Speaker 1: have ever imagined having. And she told me I will
Speaker 1: never forget when I was nine, maybe ten years old,
Speaker 1: that I had a light in me and that I
Speaker 1: was going to shine very brightly and that it was
Speaker 1: my purpose to do so and give it back to
Speaker 1: the world. And I will never forget that conversation. But
Speaker 1: just constantly having that type of validation, having that type
Speaker 1: of a role model to look up to me to
Speaker 1: where I am.
Speaker 3: Training for the Olympics is clearly an enormous amount of
Speaker 3: physical training and exertion, But what about the mental aspect
Speaker 3: of it, all of the pressure of feeling like you
Speaker 3: have to perform in this moment, in this moment in time.
Speaker 3: Do you have coping mechanisms that you deal with, because
Speaker 3: I pretty much have a mental breakdown within the first
Speaker 3: four minutes of hot yoga.
Speaker 1: How do you manage all of Oh gosh, yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize that our sport half of
Speaker 1: it is mental. You can prepare physically every day and
Speaker 1: be so physically prepared, but if you're mentally not there,
Speaker 1: you just you're not going to be great. You know
Speaker 1: you can be good, but you can't be great. And
Speaker 1: I remember telling all of my loved ones before I
Speaker 1: competed at the Olympics, I don't know how I could
Speaker 1: have prepared for this moment, because there is nothing like
Speaker 1: walking out into that stadium and seeing eighty thousand people
Speaker 1: on top of you, millions of people watching at home
Speaker 1: and in track and field. It's just you out there.
Speaker 1: You don't have a team to rely on. There are
Speaker 1: no do overs, there's no next play. This is it
Speaker 1: and this is your moment, and if you don't do
Speaker 1: it in that moment, then it's over. And gosh, for me,
Speaker 1: that was a lot of pressure to take on. But
Speaker 1: I was as prepared as I could have been. I
Speaker 1: do a lot of meditation exercises, I did my visualizations
Speaker 1: of the race, I did all of my positive self talk,
Speaker 1: and I just have a healthy relationship with the.
Speaker 2: Sport and myself and the sport.
Speaker 1: So while I did believe that I could win the
Speaker 1: gold medal, I also knew that it was okay if
Speaker 1: I didn't. All I had to do was put my
Speaker 1: best self forward and be the best athlete that I
Speaker 1: could be.
Speaker 2: So you're saying no burden, no no burdn no burken birth.
Speaker 3: Well, as though it's not enough to be a three
Speaker 3: time gold medalist medalist, you also graduated from Harvard with
Speaker 3: the bachelor's in neurobiology.
Speaker 2: You have you have a mass years in public health.
Speaker 3: Do you use your neurobiology education and to help inform
Speaker 3: the way that you train?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: I think I actually had a bit of an advantage
Speaker 1: studying neurobiology when I was an undergrad because I grew
Speaker 1: to have a very deep understanding of how the brain
Speaker 1: could actually help you athletically and what was important. For example,
Speaker 1: recovery is huge in our sport. It is almost as
Speaker 1: important as the actual racing and the actual practicing. And
Speaker 1: understanding neuroplasticity and the neural pathways and how they change
Speaker 1: when you're doing certain things for your recovery was really important.
Speaker 1: Understanding how sleep was very important. If you're not getting
Speaker 1: enough sleep every day, how that can detrimentally affect your training,
Speaker 1: How can it affect how you compete? And just really
Speaker 1: having that understanding for it, Understanding how going through training
Speaker 1: and the repetition, the muscle memory, all of that is
Speaker 1: integral to to being successful in track and field. So
Speaker 1: actually understanding that and appreciating it, I think really helped me.
Speaker 1: Different from your coach just telling you, you know, go
Speaker 1: get eight hours of sleep, you really need it, But
Speaker 1: I really appreciated it.
Speaker 3: You as though it's not enough. All that you do,
Speaker 3: you're endlessly impressive. You dedicate a lot of your time
Speaker 3: towards volunteer work with a health clinic in Texas, providing
Speaker 3: medical care for people who don't have health insurance. Why
Speaker 3: is this kind of work so important to you?
Speaker 1: Mainly because I believe everybody deserves equal access to health care.
Speaker 2: Thank you, simply.
Speaker 1: But when I was in school studying neurobiology, I started
Speaker 1: taking a few sociology courses as well to complement it,
Speaker 1: and I realized that there were a lot of things
Speaker 1: we don't learn about the healthcare system in our regular curriculum,
Speaker 1: and I was being exposed to it, and I drew
Speaker 1: a passion for studying and gaining a foundation and racial
Speaker 1: disparities in healthcare, and it just really struck me to
Speaker 1: my core, especially being a black woman in America, and
Speaker 1: now that I'm actually seeing it in real time in
Speaker 1: Austin at the volunteer health Care Clinic, there are just
Speaker 1: so many things that we can do better. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are people who really don't have access to health
Speaker 1: care otherwise, I don't know where they would turn to,
Speaker 1: and we are people. It's a volunteer based clinic, so
Speaker 1: these are people who are dedicating time out of their
Speaker 1: day to give just primary care, preventive care education. And
Speaker 1: it's unfathomable to me that these people would have nowhere
Speaker 1: else to turn to if this clinic didn't exist.
Speaker 2: And it's just so simple.
Speaker 1: It's a simple concept, right. We could increase funding for
Speaker 1: it and people can have access to health care so easily,
Speaker 1: and that's what we do with the clinic. And it's
Speaker 1: really just near and dear to my heart because everybody
Speaker 1: deserves that.
Speaker 3: It's so inspired. Refuse to ask the question what will
Speaker 3: you do next? Because, for the love of God, you
Speaker 3: just won three gold medals.
Speaker 2: You should celebrate it and enjoy it.
Speaker 3: So what I'm curious about is, how are you celebrating
Speaker 3: this incredible moment.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just really excited to go back home to Austin,
Speaker 1: Texas to be honest, and spend time with my puppy, Rico, get.
Speaker 2: Back into my morning routine.
Speaker 1: I'm going to my local coffee shop, go see my
Speaker 1: friends and family and get to celebrate with them just
Speaker 1: in our home setting, and then maybe plan a vacation
Speaker 1: after that. But I just can't wait to get back
Speaker 1: to my normal life.
Speaker 2: I'd say you were in a pretty nice vacation. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Ny. Tell anyone, well, my guests tonight is now.
Speaker 3: Who is currently nominated for an Emmy for his work
Speaker 3: on the Apple TV Plus series The Morning Show.
Speaker 2: Please welcome Mark Duclaus.
Speaker 3: They love yeah oh much?
Speaker 4: Did you pay for that way?
Speaker 2: Not a dime?
Speaker 3: Not a dime?
Speaker 2: Baby?
Speaker 3: Congratulations, Emmy nominated. This is your second nomination, uh for
Speaker 3: The Morning Show, and this time you're alongside other YOU'R
Speaker 3: co stars Billy Crudup and John Hamm. Tell us why
Speaker 3: you feel you're you deserve the award more than them?
Speaker 4: Well, there's a there's a couple of things, the versus
Speaker 4: a smaller thing. But it's just my talent.
Speaker 2: Sure, yes, obviously.
Speaker 4: That's generally it. Yeah, then it's like a Hollywood thing
Speaker 4: like to talk about it. A lot do go on,
Speaker 4: but there's a there's a penisize issue as well. Yes,
Speaker 4: so hands down, you know, like so to speak, they
Speaker 4: do these you know, these aren't their real names.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like John Ham so maybe that insinuate like Billy
Speaker 4: crewed up up, you know, and I'm just like, I'll
Speaker 4: just go do plas like I don't need to brag you.
Speaker 2: You know, I love it. This is you you.
Speaker 3: It is well deserved, very well deserved. Congratulations. I imagine
Speaker 3: being on the Morning show, you have to do a
Speaker 3: lot of research by watching all the other morning shows.
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite, and keep in mind Gail
Speaker 3: King does watch the Daily Show, so careful what you say.
Speaker 4: I like Gail King's show.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: I like Gail King's I like Gail King's show.
Speaker 2: Yes, we love you, Gail.
Speaker 4: It's the best of all the shows.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 4: I'm not like a big research actor like I'm kind
Speaker 4: of I would say Chip is like a twenty to
Speaker 4: thirty percent more stressed out version of me and how
Speaker 4: I am. But what I did discover when I was
Speaker 4: talking to people about this show is how freaking stressful
Speaker 4: the live news thing is. Because I produce independent films
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I know what it's like to work
Speaker 4: on time constraints and budget constraints. But the live thing,
Speaker 4: I really kind of got a sense of that. I
Speaker 4: was like, Oh, that's real, like shit your pants material.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's that's where it goes down. Oh for sure,
Speaker 4: I'm sure right now you're sitting in a hole.
Speaker 3: Oh there's there's a whole shit your pants situation happening
Speaker 3: your ear.
Speaker 2: I thought I smelled it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can't avoid it. I got a
Speaker 3: whole whole stock of diapers down here.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm right there with all the old bourbon, I
Speaker 2: got all the all the tools.
Speaker 3: It's so funny because in season one, your character Chip
Speaker 3: goes in and it feels like he's kind of the
Speaker 3: audience in a way like we see ourselves in Chip.
Speaker 3: He has great journalistic integrity, he's level headed, he's the everyman.
Speaker 3: And throughout season three we get to watch your character
Speaker 3: unravel completely and.
Speaker 2: Ship gets messy. He does. He gets a little messing sloppy,
Speaker 2: a little sloppy.
Speaker 4: Well, here's a great thing about Chip in my opinion
Speaker 4: why he's so fun to play, Because you're right, he
Speaker 4: was essentially the moral center of the show. He was
Speaker 4: the bastion of journalistic integrity. But he's got this wonderful
Speaker 4: Achilles heel, which is that he is completely codependent upon
Speaker 4: and obsessed with Alex Leevey, which is also easy to
Speaker 4: play because I'm completely obsessed with Jennifer Anniston, you know,
Speaker 4: so with it?
Speaker 1: Who is it?
Speaker 4: Who is so?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, really hard getting into character on that one. Yeah,
Speaker 4: But that's the great thing about Chip is he's got
Speaker 4: it all right until it comes to his relationship with Alex,
Speaker 4: and that really is kind of his uh, his his
Speaker 4: his downfall.
Speaker 2: You you're getting ready to start up on season four. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're a.
Speaker 4: Few weeks into shooting. I know some stuff about plotting.
Speaker 2: What can you tell us?
Speaker 4: I feel like if I said something, I can even
Speaker 4: like really try to say it, And I feel like
Speaker 4: Apple is like inside of that camera that and I
Speaker 4: think we might both get zapped.
Speaker 2: That's probably true.
Speaker 3: So do you have zappers appers?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Once you sign those terms and conditions. We go straight
Speaker 2: to zapping. Do you guys have the new eyesapp?
Speaker 3: It's amazing think that you need a new charger.
Speaker 4: I know, but you can kill people from across the street.
Speaker 2: It is really really something. Don't worry, Apple, we'll edit
Speaker 2: this part out.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're not only such a talented actor,
Speaker 3: but you're an insanely talented writer and producer and director.
Speaker 3: You and your brother Jay essentially defined an entire subgenre
Speaker 3: of indie.
Speaker 2: Film, and that's really important to you.
Speaker 3: Still, So why is championing those projects indie film and
Speaker 3: TV so important?
Speaker 2: Even with that, with that sweet Apple.
Speaker 4: Cash, Well, here here comes. I'm gonna be like Chip
Speaker 4: on the Morning Show. I might get up on my
Speaker 4: high horse now because like that stuff is going away, okay,
Speaker 4: Like our business model is failing. The streamers are reducing
Speaker 4: and when that happens, all they're going to do is
Speaker 4: make the big stuff like the Game of Thrones that
Speaker 4: they know can work, and the really exciting things like
Speaker 4: I May Destroy You and Baby Reindeer. They're just cutting
Speaker 4: that stuff away. So what I'm doing right now is
Speaker 4: like taking the money I make from the Morning Show,
Speaker 4: and I'm just going to go and invest in make
Speaker 4: my own TV series independently. I made a show recently
Speaker 4: called Penelope that's really close to my heart because it's
Speaker 4: about a sixteen year old girl who leaves behind sort
Speaker 4: of the trappings of her modern life to go live
Speaker 4: in the woods. And I did it because I have
Speaker 4: teenage daughters who deal with mental health issues, and I
Speaker 4: deal with mental health issues, and like, our technology and
Speaker 4: the way we're living is kind of destroying us right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have read The Anxious Generation.
Speaker 4: It's an incredible book.
Speaker 2: You should read it.
Speaker 4: We had him on, Yeah, it's incredible, and so I
Speaker 4: really wanted to make something that could contribute to that story.
Speaker 4: And the only way I can do it now is
Speaker 4: like get rich on the morning show and go.
Speaker 1: Blowing on my stuff. So, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: It's so awesome that you do that.
Speaker 3: Now, you mentioned that you've talked very openly about struggling
Speaker 3: with anxiety and depression.
Speaker 2: How did that feel to share that? Did that? Were
Speaker 2: you surprised by the reaction that you got?
Speaker 4: One hundred percent surprise? And here's the thing, it didn't
Speaker 4: feel weird to share because I live in Los Angeles
Speaker 4: amongst a group of artists where this is just dinner
Speaker 4: table conversations. We're all anxious and depress and we're always
Speaker 4: talking about it all the time. We're trading therapists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what medications?
Speaker 3: My therapist is right under the set on call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so it's like, what medication are you on?
Speaker 4: I'm switching over to Selexa. Now you know it's these
Speaker 4: are our conversations. But what I didn't realize is that
Speaker 4: you know as you well know, because I don't know
Speaker 4: if you guys know, DESI was with me on the
Speaker 4: League like ten years ago as a guest Start amazing,
Speaker 4: but it's a great it's a great show, and a
Speaker 4: lot of the men who watch that show are not
Speaker 4: the men who are comfortable with talking about their mental
Speaker 4: health because the football dudes and whatnot. And so when
Speaker 4: I started going on my social media, I got this outpouring,
Speaker 4: particularly for men, just being like, I can't believe you're
Speaker 4: saying this out loud, And it makes me feel really
Speaker 4: good to know that someone that I view as somewhat
Speaker 4: successful is still on their feet despite this, and it
Speaker 4: offers hope.
Speaker 2: In that way.
Speaker 4: So I never really planned on being some sort of
Speaker 4: mouthpiece for it. I was just sort of whining on
Speaker 4: social media and then it kind of had this effect.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh, well, this is something so.
Speaker 3: Not only brave, but it's a generous thing for you
Speaker 3: to do to help support others. So it's really meaningful
Speaker 3: that you did that. I have one final question, yes
Speaker 3: the Morning Show. Is there any thought about spinning it
Speaker 3: off into doing a behind the scenes late night show.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
Speaker 4: So there's this one little thing that we've been pitching. Okay,
Speaker 4: it's about a woman who Fine, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: I'll do it, yes, yes, yes, Okay, I excess, I excess.
Speaker 4: The only thing is the title. It's called diarrhea. Diarrhea, diarrhea.
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