WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2020 NFL MegaPod Week 14 Preview 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:11.959 Check it down Man, No down Man, Thursday morning to 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:16.560 number ten, beating the book Podcast Mega Pod for a 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:22.400 week number fourteen. Can't believe that. For the National Football League, 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:26.600 of course, thanks for tuning in once again. I've had 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.840 a ball with this all season long. We continue to 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.600 have a blast with us. I haven't seen a penny 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.960 Mikey with the good folks over, haven't. We haven't. That's right, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.400 we haven't. I'm sorry I say that out loud ready 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.839 with the Vaga Pod. I appreciate it. I think I 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:44.560 had a big week last week, tod It's gonna update 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.520 that momentarily, as always the regulars on the show. What 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.320 I'm dejected now, I'm blown the lead. You're you zoom 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.960 past me. I can't beat one into one and two 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.760 for like four straight weeks. I know. I'd like to, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.360 I'd like to brag, but I'm like twenty seventeen and 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.600 two or something, so it's not that much to brag about. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.120 That's the voice of Mike Palm, the the conciliary to 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.759 Derek Stevens here at Circuit Sports, Vice President of Operations. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.840 Thank you, Mikey for having us at the d where 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.200 we are live each and every week. It's exciting, exciting 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.160 to be at bar Canada, exciting to have a Canadian on. Yes, 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.240 an actual Canadian, real life Canadian. Let's say hello to 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.440 Todd Wishing at first tailor staple of the show. Hello Todd, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:26.360 how are you? Todd? Hi? Mike, how are you start 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.400 the showtime Action? Our docuseries Action And the actual Canadian 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.119 that you're talking about, because we're coming from bar Canada 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.840 air at the day, I believe it's in Alberta, Canada, 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:39.760 Am correct in that? Is that correct? Adam Alberta, Canada. Yes, indeed, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.280 the great Adam Churnoff, who I have never had the 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.440 pleasure of meeting before. I've never had the pleasure of 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.119 having him on the podcast. Uh. He is the host 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:51.640 of The Simple Handicap. Wherever podcasts are distributed, Uh, it 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.440 is a must listen, especially in the year of COVID, 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.480 to have updates on a daily basis. You do a 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.080 spectacular job with that. You do a spectacular job on 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.960 Visa on Follow the Money, Adam, thank you for doing 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.200 this man, thanks for having me on. It's the megaput. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.440 I'm looking forward to it. Thank you. I appreciate it. Um. So, 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.080 before we get into the three best bets and our 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:17.840 teaser legs, uh Survivor thoughts, and of course the final 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.519 two questions about which big favorite is most likely lose 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.200 out right? Which game you want no part of? Mikey 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.240 a Circus Survivor and if you want to a circum 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.880 Millions update if you'd like, well the millions everybody, how 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.720 could you pick a loser? I mean, we're a hundred 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.120 and fifty people went five and oh and I managed 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.080 to eight hundred and eighty one. People are four and 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.040 one are better to start out the fourth quarter? So 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.680 I'm like Cramer on the on the final quarterly, I'm like, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.720 I'm out. So yeah, that's where that stands. And the 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.959 presence the guy that has three entries, he's in first 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.280 third and died for ten Adam, are you in Circle Millions? 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:57.200 I am not not involved in any content. If I 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.720 if I lived a little bit closer, potentially that would change. Yes. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.639 Now in the Survivor, we went from one oh three 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.799 down to eighty nine, with twelve entries going the way 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.400 of the Dodo on the Seahawks who are upset by 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.799 the Giants, and another two on Monday with your football 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.000 team rallying from fourteen nothing down with the help of 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.919 a missing Caball to upset the Steelers and end there 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.360 and then and then their undefeated season. So we're down 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:25.000 to eighty nine, of which two have the Seahawks available 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.480 this week laying fourteen against the Jets at home. Yes, 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.040 so this week comes down this was so I look 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.280 at it this way as one of the final eighty 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.560 nine people in there, or it's actually eighty four people 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:40.760 but eight um five with two. This is the This 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.880 is the final week where there is either no carnage 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.040 at all because everybody's going to take the Seahawks and 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.800 they end up winning, which is very possible to be 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.080 the Jets, or it's supreme carnage in that everybody takes 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.800 the Seahawks and somehow they managed to lose that game. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.360 But this is the final week where I think it. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.200 I think it's the last week where everybody's got the 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.160 obvious team available. After this, it's going to get very interesting. 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.760 Three and a half still my over under on the chop. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.920 I like my number to twenty nine and a half 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.880 todds going under on both of us. James Salinas, your 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:19.000 friend and professional contest player and a co host of 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.600 the Mike Pritchard Power Hour on Visa and UH said 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.599 that my number was super sharp, that he put it 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.560 right at thirty. Uh, and it was based on seven 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.360 people last week having two entries still Uh, the multiple 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.760 entries um all is convinced at sixty now he went 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.880 out from fifty to sixty five after last. People don't 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.000 understand there's still a quarter of the season left. After 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.320 this week, it's going to go. Week seventeen will be 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.560 very difficult because you have to assess who's trying to play. Correct, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.320 that's the thing, and hopefully you're down to you know, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.919 few enough people. If you're still in that your headge 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:59.599 can be pretty obvious. And circummillions Uh, Las Vegas Chris, 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:00.880 who was a it was nice enough to get a 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.760 guest on the megapod last week, mentioned to me that 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.360 people should know because he's got two entries in contention. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.960 If you're at the top of circum millions, know that 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.240 the tiebreaker is the last quarter and so you've kind 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.680 of already virtually lost a half game before you even 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.640 start here. Correct, Yeah, there's tiebreakers. There are no tiebreakers 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.719 and survivor why did you decide on that tiebreaker, by 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.800 the way, because we wanted one person to win a 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.040 million dollars. Yeah, we wanted to give a check for 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:31.520 a million. Uma there was I I understand why you 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.440 survived with the and that's why I have this background 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.560 up for you in the Raiders game. I thought about 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.800 it long and hard, and now I finally realized what 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:44.120 happened last week. I was winning every single early game bet, 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:48.080 which I did win except for one, which was the 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:53.520 Houston Texans plus three against the Colts. And the Texans 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.800 were inside the five yard line late in the game. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:57.800 All they have to do is punch it in. They 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.680 go up by one, they end up losing by two 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.280 and a OG or they end up winning the game. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.520 And I cover every single game now because Hashem doesn't 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.800 like me, he won't let me get a full slate 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.120 of bets all to win. So and then the law 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:14.280 of physics says that energy cannot be you know, lost 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.760 or gained. It can only be transformed. So the energy 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.760 that was being used to wipe me out in that 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:25.880 football game was then no longer available when Greg Williams's 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.120 brain needed to tell them to be in pre event. Therefore, 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.320 allowing for the most ridiculous ending in the history of 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:37.320 a football game, and you surviving in Survivors. So that 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.760 was probably the only I wish you had a camera 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.600 on me. When my eye saw Henry Ruggs go past 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.760 Lamar Jackson at that ball was in the air, I 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.720 went ballistic by two things. One for those who are like, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.919 what is Hashem? Hashem again the Hebrew for the name, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.160 which is what orthodox use. Todd was one of them, 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.520 once upon a time called God, and Todd believes that 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.280 Hashem has a lifelong fan dead against him. I don't 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:07.559 believe in the old man with a scoreboard type of God. 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.880 But I just do it as a joke because we 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.320 always joke around about how I find a way to 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.640 lose to an earthquake. It's only you who gets bad beats, 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.640 not only you, know, it is only let's put it 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.920 this way, everyone gets a certain percentage of bad beats. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.320 I get fifth standard deviation. Okay, I don't know about that. Uh. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.360 This is where I go to Adam though, because on 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:33.440 the simple handicap Adam. Adam has done a spectacular job 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.640 of out of laying out what happened at the end 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.080 of that game, and I think it was in the prison. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.120 You correct me if I'm rolling adam of people who 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.040 thought it was a tank. You you had a whole 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:48.960 thing about this. Yeah. So I'm lifelong Jets fan from Saskatchewan, Canada, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.800 which makes a lot of sense, but they've always in 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:56.000 my but like Greg Williams has a history of doing this, 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.920 and he essentially did it the entire two thousand's seventeen 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.280 season with the Browns, who also happened to have sort 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.000 of a similar record to the Jets, which hopefully I 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.720 don't they don't finish with. But like, remember when he 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.200 did that whole angel safety thing where he was playing 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.560 a guy like thirty yards off the line of scrimmage 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.880 up a touchdown against Darren Rodgers and thought it was 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.080 a good idea and he just let the Packers walk 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.360 down the field twice in the fourth quarter and overtime 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.280 and he didn't really there was nobody was talking about 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.280 panking like we are now um at that time, and 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.200 he sort of got a pass for it. And so 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.880 like I think now he's doing essentially or was doing 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:36.040 the exact opposite with the Jets when he's bringing zero 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.440 blitz against the Raiders, in that situation against Derek Carr, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.480 who's like the last quarterback you're gonna do that against. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:47.080 But like, what's the benefit of him was getting a salary, 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.200 Like it's likely going to be his last DC job, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.840 He's making a million and a half and he's going 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.640 to throw it away all for the better of the 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.360 Jets franchise, who were gonna get Trevor Lawrence next year 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.240 when he's not even involved, Like, I just I don't 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.120 see the upside for him just doing doing the Jets 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.640 of solid and thinking about the great of the franchise 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.439 long term. I think it was just him being an 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.439 incompetent defensive coordinator and actually thinking that it was a 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.040 good idea. So um for me, I'm not a huge 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.240 tanking guy, especially in the NFL where it's so physical 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.000 and there's a lot of money at stake for these 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.320 guys and jobs. I think it's just that there's a 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:26.080 lot of incompetent defensive and offensive coordinators head coaches too, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.679 and we sort of lose track of that and think 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.920 there's something bigger going on. And arrogance, right, just complete 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.520 arrogance on his part and especially from him and what 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.600 he's done over the last decade in the NFL. I 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.200 just couldn't believe it when when Car overthrown I don't 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:41.800 really know if it was an overthrown, but when he 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.920 had Agalore the previous play open and he overshot him, 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.160 I immediately, as a guy who had the raiders and survivor, 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.320 I was like, oh, that was the chance, that was 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.480 the play. Oh, I can't believe I had a shot 0:09:54.520 --> 0:10:00.520 at this. And then explain it happens again, and it's amazing. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.760 The one thing, poor Lamar Jackson on an island bit 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.360 on a fake they have no time out. He bites 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.480 inside and Rugs, who does one thing better than any 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.080 other human on the planet or most humans, is run 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:16.120 by You did just that and Car hits him. I'll 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.400 if I get to the end, I will remember that 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.640 for a lifetime. And I'm going in. If you don't 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.040 get to the end, you'll remember it. That's true. That ridiculous. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.840 But I'm gonna send Rugs and Car something in the 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.240 mail if that happens. When Um Glennon when they were 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.360 up nine nothing the Jags and they had a first 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.920 down round of the Vikings thirty and they got a 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:37.720 false start, so it was first and fifteen and then 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.560 Glennon through an interception. Yes, I got a text from 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.720 someone who's still in the survivor and he said, when 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.360 everyone when everyone is chopping up their checks at the 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.839 end of the year for a survivor, they'll be talking 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.600 about where they were when Glennon through this interception. That's 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.559 nothing compared to the who knew who knew that that 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.440 would happen at the end. Compared to that, Yeah, I 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.439 wonder who that was. If you want me to give 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.800 you the for the for the record, let's up the record. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.280 Before I do that, I'll just say, you know, I 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.199 grew up in Pittsburgh, but I'm a huge Moose, just 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.560 Saskatchewan Warriors fan for many many years. I'm just I 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:16.880 looked that up at him anyways, uh uh the uh Okay, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.000 So gilly Ice, it's what they call him. Gilly Ice 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.000 went three and oh last week outstanding. Now there was 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.280 another person that also happened to go three and oh. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.520 And that's me too, baby, three and oh for me 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.800 as well, and might eat palm right down the drain 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.400 with a one in two including by the way, you 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.400 lost that same um I had the plus three in Houston. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.800 You had the over, which was a horrible beat. It 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.800 was at the half and somehow goes under final scor. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.520 That's incredible beat, Mike, that's incredible. I couldn't get over 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.040 seven in the second half. That's what essentially my bet 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.360 was unbelievable. It is what it is. But I don't 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.920 think God had anything to do with it. You're not 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.640 blaming God? No, no, okay, well, I mean, ultimately I 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.680 don't really believe in that type of God either, But 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.440 it's just a funny thing to say. Now. Gil is 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.360 now seventeen and two, which in first place, mikey at 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.720 eighteen nineteen and two and me right on his heels 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.800 at eighteen twenty and one. In the teaser category, I 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.320 am still the leader at nine and four Gil and 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.960 Mike was solid eight and five numbers. So though, that 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.080 is the year. Little update from last weekend for the season, 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.360 thank you, and now we can commence with Thursday Night Football. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.920 Court stenographer Todd wishne um I failed to mention Adam 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.000 any thoughts on Thursday Night Football. Maybe it's one of 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.559 your best bets, maybe it's not, but just a few 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.520 words if it's done. Uh, nothing for me on this one. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.880 I see that Pat's money continues to come in. He's 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.280 even as we're talking. But um, I guess the only 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.720 thing that I sort of came to mind when I 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.840 saw this game and the number, which I thought was 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.720 right when it opened, now getting a little bit shorter. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.920 But um, obviously the Patriots have that blueprint to beat 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.520 Jared Goff. They have the quarters defense in their back 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.360 pocket that they threw at him in the Super Bowl. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.040 We saw floor As do it with Miami against them 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.680 this year as well, and so the game plan for 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.360 them is certainly there. But this is the Pat's defense 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.280 that is trending towards one of the worst seven or 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.040 eight in the league, and it's the defense I've been 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.680 very much down on. So my sort of trust in 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.000 them executing that and being able to generate pressure on 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.599 golf is not very high. So it's it's going to 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.160 be a stay away from me. This is actually a 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.199 pick for me. Is it for you or or you Todd? 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.599 Anybody think for you? It must be the Patriots. No, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.240 absolutely not. You like the Rams tonight especially it's going 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.040 the other way. It just warn you that in the 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.000 fourth quarter you're gonna be rooting for Jared Goff, now continue, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.320 thank you, thank you for that. R mind. I will 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.560 remember that when the fourth quarter starts being oh yeah, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.600 I forgot about this. I like the Rams. It's four 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.240 and a half now, by the way, it just keeps coming. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.320 I wish it was four by the time we had 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.319 done this, but I'll take I'll lay the four and 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.280 a half. Agree with everything that Adam just said about 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.160 the Patriots defense trending the wrong way. For me, this 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.320 is this is more the other side of the ball, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:06.280 to which is Jalen Ramsey and Darius Williams. And Darius Williams, 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.120 who's not as big of a household name as Jalen 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.120 Ramsey is, actually ranks higher, like in Pro Football Focus 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.840 corner ratings, like fourth in the league. I think Jalen's 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.360 like sixties or seventeen. Those guys. The luxury of having 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.040 those guys on an island against Cam Newton, who, by 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:22.680 the way, in the forty five and nothing win over 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.600 the Chargers. As Aaron Shots told me, his second worst 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.600 special teams the Chargers second word special teams. In the 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.120 last thirty five years, he hasn't ranked um but but 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.320 Cam Newton through for sixty nine yards, Jalen Ramsey and 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.360 Darius Williams. The thought of them, like Jalen Ramsey having 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.360 to cover Jacoby Myers like doesn't really scare me that much. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.880 I don't know how the Rams score it, excuse me 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.400 how the Patriots score in this game. So I really 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.240 like the Rams tonight for all for both of those reasons, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.440 on both sides of the ball. Um, and I'll lay 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:55.840 the four and a half. That's my number two pick 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.040 of the week. Okay, let me ask you a few questions. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.640 If the a line we're six, would you lay six? 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.600 Maybe not? Maybe? Maybe not? Yeah, but four and a half? 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.440 I mean they feel a begging me. How do you 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.480 feel about a total of forty four? If you think 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.119 the Patriots will really struggle to score? Well, the Patriots 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.040 path to victory is just like how they did it 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.880 last week. You know, it's like the races, like the 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.080 Ravens and the Cowboys the other night, right, the Cowboys 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.880 get ten points based on a pick in a short 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.120 field on a Pollard big kickoff return. I don't know 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:30.360 how the Cowboys score otherwise if they don't get the help. Um, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.440 that's how I feel about the Patriots tonight. Well, the 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.960 Rams are number one in yards per play at four 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.520 point six per given up. The closest person to them 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.120 or team is New Orleans at four point nine. And 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.880 now what we all know, I am a big proponent 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.320 of stats, Lie and Atlanta Falcons are thirty one at 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.520 six point two yards per play given up. And they 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.480 are not, I repeat, they are not the thirty first 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.560 worst defense in the National Football League. There probably somewhere 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.800 in the mid teens. So of course the stats lie, 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.160 but the Rams are definitely an elite defense in today's NFL. 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:06.920 So I agree with you. It's gonna be very tough 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.920 for for New England to score in this game. The 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.480 only thing is you have to root for Jared Goff 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.360 and his look of deer in the headlights late in 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.600 the ball game when it's four and a half, and 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.960 you're gonna be crying later because you're gonna be like, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.760 I have everything based on this guy. Come on, and 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.560 he's gonna have to throw too because they can't run 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:26.000 the ball. I didn't know that. I didn't know that 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.240 my pick has to withstand cross examination, but I appreciate it. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.560 That the the the the thing about Jared Pick, whoever 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.760 you want we're you know, and you'll probably win. I'm 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.840 just saying, you know, no, no no, no, if if it's 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.560 a good point though, if Jared Goff, we're playing a 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.760 primetime game in Chicago, do you remember that gaming played 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.920 in Chicago a couple of years ago? Nothing or something? 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.520 It was it was thirty two degrees Fahrenheugh Adam. I 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.600 don't know what that is in celsius for you Canadians, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.960 I'm not sure what it is, but it's it's exactly 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.920 warm summer day. I think it's zero degrees, right, because 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.560 thirty two is freezing. Zero is freezing celsius, right, so 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:02.760 it's zero, so it's not that old. It's just kind 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.000 of cold. But the kid from the West Coast, he like, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.320 he looked like it was thirty two below the way 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.040 he was playing that. But it's in l a subtract 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.959 thirty two times by nine divide by five zero right, 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:18.920 thirty correct? Very good, uh formula. What about Michael Lombardi's 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.960 theory boy Todd's Todd's good friend Michael Lombardi and Michael 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.400 Lombardi did something very nice in helping Dianna get tickets 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:33.000 to go to the Patriots pregame season game, and then um, 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:38.360 you know after that, who knows what? Yeah, who knows? Continue? 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.160 Who says you should never pre flop a RAMS game? 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.840 You should always wait and read Jared Goff's body language 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:48.960 because you can tell by the end of the first 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.480 quarter what his mental state is by his body language. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.160 Advice not bad advice. Well, he's almost right. You should 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.000 never pre pre flop an NFL game, period. Why would you? Yeah, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.320 that's kind of true too. What do we do in here? 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:01.879 He's all right, that's the end of the show. Everybody 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.359 right at the foundations of the meg there goes to 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.960 just pars just right right when he was within a 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:12.960 half game of second. My brand is honesty. Your brand, 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.879 Your brand is a little bit more you know, spin 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.760 oriented more akin with two thousand twenty. You're more of 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.439 a spinning type of guy. I'm more of a truth 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.359 in your face guy. Talking to you. You're talking to 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:30.560 or me? Yeah, first of all, were talking that you, Mikey, 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.560 I don't know I was That was a toss up, 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.480 so I leaned to you the whole time. I'm not 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:41.439 a spinster, I'm a Spence. You're the ultimate spinster. You 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:50.600 are Mr spin spin Spinster. All right, let's start with 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.200 the best bets. For God's sakes, let's go to Adam 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.280 churt Off again, the host of The Simple Handicap Available. 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:00.800 We're all podcasts are distributed, yes, Adam, Yeah, Primary, Apple 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.200 and Spotify if you can. If you can find podcasts, 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.000 you'll find it. How many times a week do you 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:09.760 put these these out? Every day? Every morning? It's was correct? 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.639 You think of it like a ten of fifteen minute 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.040 briefing on the market where prices are moving. And it's 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.399 just sort of like people say, they listen to it 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.280 walking the dog on the way to work, in the train, 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.600 in the car. So it's just a quick morning pot 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.320 every day. And let me just say before I put 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.640 in my Survivor pick, this is a true story. One 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.880 of the last things I consulted. Did could Adam give 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.439 me something in the injury report that I've missed? So 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.200 I absolutely give it a listen before putting it in. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.359 I love I love your podcast. What is your first 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:41.720 best bet? Sir? It's probably going to be viewed as 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.080 the squarest bet on the board, and people listening to 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:48.159 the show, very intelligent listeners are probably gonna gock at it. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.560 But I have to lay seven and a half with 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.840 the Packers on the road versus the Lions, and I 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:54.800 don't know how much longer this number is going to 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.240 be available for. But like, it's great that the Lions 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.679 get Patricia out of there. It great they get to 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.040 come back against the Bears. The comments were fantastic about 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.800 the new energy with Bevil, but let's be honest. Bevil 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.240 is not fixing this defense for the Lions anytime soon. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.600 And I'm not sure that there's the worst secondary in 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.639 the NFL right now. Then the Detroit Lions, and this 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.720 goes back to mid season when they were primarily a 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.560 man defense team. They struggled some injuries, but then Patricia 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.919 was actually smart enough to realize, Okay, we can't continue 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:28.960 to play man coverage because we just don't have the 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.960 talent on this roster. And so like Week six, they 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.439 made the switch to zone and they've sort of been 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.840 increasing their zone usage rate every single week since. But 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.159 it's not working in their favor. Right. You look at 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.000 some of these quarterbacks in their yards protempt and success. 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.560 Matt Ryan through for eight yards per pass, Philip Rivers 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.800 through for eight yards per pass, Kirk Cousins through for 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.439 eleven yards per pass, Alex Smith through for seven and 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:56.040 a half, p J Walker XFL product through for seven 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.280 and a half, Watson through for twelve and a half 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:02.320 on Thanksgiving, then Trubisky twice this season eight yards per 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.919 passed against the Lions. And so now they get Aaron 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.159 Rodgers and the Packers. I look through Aaron Rodgers just 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:10.800 to sort of look at his season. I think we 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.439 remember the Tampa Bay game where he was ugly and 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.400 strewing picks. Believe it or not. His second worst performance 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:20.080 this season in terms of like yardage output passer rating 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.120 was against the Lions in Week two, the Packers one 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.000 forty two to twenty one. And so this is a 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.399 Packers team that's already moved the ball on the Lions. 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.199 This is a team I think they can move the 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.280 ball on the Lions again. And just from sort of 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.520 the market perspective, we didn't see this number adjust despite 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.800 the Packers dominating the Eagles, and then we saw the 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.280 Lions get that win late, so there wasn't really much 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.960 credit given to them. Two books on the board have 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:45.920 gone from seven and a half to eight, and they 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.520 were Chris and circa and so you know who's moving 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.560 those numbers, and you know what type of bettors are 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.240 playing into those markets. Early you compared to some of 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:55.840 the other books on the board, maybe a little more 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.760 recreational focused. Still sitting at seven and a half. I 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.200 think with a favorite a big which usually sort of 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.119 taboo to let as many points, you're getting the high total, 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.440 so it's not as relevant. But it's a big price 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:08.760 that I don't usually lay, but I'm pretty happy to 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.560 lay it here with the packers Green Bay Adam's first 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.479 pick of the week. Yes, geniuses are not always right 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.240 in the NFL, so no need to apologize for standing 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.959 up to their snob snobbery in telling in making you 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.480 feel bad about your pick, you like your pick. And 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.920 by the way, they're wrong all the time. They were 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:30.679 wrong on the Tampa Bay overs every single week last year. Okay, 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:36.159 so take that snobbery, idiot analytic jerk offs, Thank you, Adam. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.240 I just want to apologize in it. Fans are you're 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:41.600 talking about? Who is she talking about? Who are they? 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.760 I don't know who are they talking Adam? Because Bernie 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.840 Harrowite like really smarty pants people are gonna not like 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:50.920 his pick. He doesn't have to apologize for his pick. 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.960 His pick is goddamn good and f them. Who are 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:57.680 these smarty pants? Is though whoever Adam was concerned about. 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:01.879 But I mean, it's not a concern about them. But 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.159 I think, like anyone who's done this long and like 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.600 laying more than a touchdown on the road typically, Um, 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.560 not the most ad advantageous spot to get your money 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.320 in the NFL pregame, but we understood the total. With 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.639 the total this high, it's sort of the values that 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.879 a little bit. But that's just sort of what I 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:22.800 was putting up. Of course I took the incoming you know. 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.080 All right, so Green Bay pick number one from Adam 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:36.680 Churnoff mikey Well Todd referenced this game last week in Houston, Uh, 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.840 with the Colts over, and um, I'm not going to 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.120 get off it. I'm going back to Colts Raiders over 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.680 fifty and hand is that the numbers? You've got fifty one? Todd? Damn. 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:47.280 But if I'm not going to get a Colts over 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:53.440 week this week, well, you know, the original, the original 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.760 Rudy Rudyard Kipling, you know, wrote there are only four 0:23:56.840 --> 0:24:00.920 things Rudy, Rudy imperialist Rudy didn't know. There are only 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.880 four things certain since social progress began. That the dog 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.280 returns to his vomit, the pig returns to her meyer, 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.879 and the burnt fool's bandaged finger goes wobbling back to 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.120 the fire. And I'm going right back to the fire 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:12.800 with the Colt silver look that games should have went 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.879 over ten times last week. This Raiders defense is not good, 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.439 not good, They're just not good. Do you know my 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.159 internal thoughts? My well, I was hoping to get them 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:26.560 through Survivors, like God, get me through this. This defense 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:30.359 is atrocious, atrocious, It's atrocious, and yet Bruden calls a 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.159 good game and they're able to use the tight end 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.199 and they missed the running back last week obviously. But 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.199 again the number is short to me. I think this 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.480 number should be fifty four or fifty three and a half. 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:44.720 So that's my best, what neuse, that's what I have mostly, 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.040 that's okay. There's some fifty and a half talking here, 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.000 Las Vegas, part Vegas, your Vegas Raiders. I'm sorry, I 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.639 have it on spreads. Hope, please hope, please not prepared 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:58.159 for the question. Apologies, um the internet here at the 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.439 at Bar Canada is fabulous, though fifty one is what 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:06.959 I have. There have secondary issues for the Raiders. You 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:08.960 want to work and the favorite that over for sure 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:13.080 serious secondary issues. Yeah, our net has the concussion. There's 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.880 a couple of other sort of depth corners who are 0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.320 not practicing so far. So it certainly makes that Raiders 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:22.000 defense a lot worse. I will say Cleland to Cleveland. 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:23.680 Farrell had a couple of strip sacks in that game 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:26.680 against the Jets which were huge, but you know, offensively 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.200 the Raiders just a brief aside I said before that game, 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.399 I was like, why don't the Raiders I'm no football genius, 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.040 but but why don't they just go to Waller every 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:40.919 single place? Like It's just amazing. It's so simple with them, um, 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.000 and you would think defenses would figure out a way 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:44.840 to do this. Maybe some have kind of this year. 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:49.199 The Jets certainly didn't figure that out. No, they did not. 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.359 Waller is just a beast. Todd, I'm sorry, God wishing 0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:57.639 of everybody from Pittsburgh. My first pick is going to 0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.720 be if it ain't broke, don't fix it type of thing. Here. 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.160 The Tennessee Titans are nine and two to the over 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.639 this year nine overs and two unders. The first under 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.720 was the first game of the year and since then 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:17.200 eight overs. Since then, every game pretty much goes over. 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.680 The Bears game didn't go over, but the Bears don't 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.000 really have an offense. Other than that, every single game 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.440 goes over. With the Tennessee Titans now Jacksonville the last 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.280 couple of weeks has shown a propensity to be able 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.959 to move the ball a little bit. So maybe you know, 0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.719 Glennon or whoever they've got starting a quarterback is you know, 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:38.400 passable and he could probably get some points against Tennessee. 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.280 We know Tennessee is going to score like crazy because 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.159 every week that's what happens. So how can you go 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.720 under in this game? The team's played the like second 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.960 week of the season, sixty three points I believe was 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:53.400 the final. It's only over fifty three, um, I mean, 0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:56.040 Tennessee is just an over monster of a team. They 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.040 can't stop anybody, and you can't stop them. So as 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:03.119 long as Jacksonville can get you twenty four points, boom, 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.760 you're in without without even a sniff. So give me 0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:11.440 over fifty three in Tennessee against the Jacksonville Jaguars, please. 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.040 And Aaron Shots from Football Outsiders on a numbers game 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.440 this morning and uh the quarter pole appearance on the 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.240 show and asked him who were the teams that they're 0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.399 most volatile performances from week to week, and he said 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:29.680 San Francisco, Cleveland and Jacksonville, which had always concerned survivor 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.080 players that when they faced Jacksonville and the two teams 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:33.840 that he said were the most consistent from week to week. 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:38.400 And he guesses, tell me if they're top tier middle 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:40.919 tier teams. One is top tier and the other is 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.919 middle the middle to bottom. So it's not the one 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.879 I was thinking. Kansas City is the top tier team 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.760 in the Chicago Bears really just every week, saying I 0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:55.960 couldn't say the Washington football team. They're pretty consistent. Yeah, yeah, 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.440 Aaron Shots, I make him minus one eighty to be 0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.679 a megapodcast before the season. It's over. Okay, what do 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:05.240 you know that I don't um? Alright, So here's uh 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.159 so I already gave you my number two picks. So 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.840 this is my number one pick and this was your 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.920 number two pick. That is correct my number and I 0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.520 don't know. The order doesn't really matter, right, doesn't not 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:18.840 at all, not at all, So just make this my 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.119 number two pick. And this falls under the category of 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:23.679 bets you have to make or you have to be 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.640 willing to lose tip of the cap if the Philadelphia 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.879 Eagles can beat me. So I'm taking the New Orleans Saints. 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.560 It's it was six and a half this morning. Now 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:37.080 it's back to seven. I see tons of seven place. 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.960 I think it's seven, but it was six and a 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.800 half earlier, So so let's say minus seven reduced shoes. Obviously, 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.200 I don't like it as much at seven as I 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:48.200 did at six and a half. But Jalen Hurts was 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:52.360 was wonderful filling in for Carson wentz Uh nice performance, 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.040 nice spark, But this is his first game as a starter, 0:28:55.440 --> 0:29:00.400 and this New Orleans defense is four reels. And I 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:04.040 just don't understand the money coming I didn't understand the 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.080 money coming in on the Patriots, not I don't understand 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.400 the money coming in on the Eagles. I must be 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.600 missing something. Um. I'm not a huge tastom Hill guy, 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.560 so I will say that. Um. But it's just again, 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.840 it's this. It's if a rookie quarterback playing in his 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.280 very first start can come in and cover that number 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:25.600 against that good of a defense. Um tip of the cap. 0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.280 I'm taking New Orleans. I'm not thinking about it too hard. 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.520 New Orleans minus seven is my second pick. Why isn't 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.680 Sean Payton getting more credited or love for Coach of 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.680 the Year He should I said, I said it a 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:41.240 month ago. What he's doing with this team, what he's 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:45.840 doing using multiple quarterbacks, another team consistent weekend and week 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.200 out with what they've done. I mean, Flores has probably 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.840 you know your leader, but to have Peyton still at 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.960 seven to one, it doesn't make sense to me. Think 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.200 about has there ever been a year where there have 0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.240 been so many poor coaching performances in so many great ones? 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.800 And it's it's reflective of the what I call the 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.800 ever widening chasm of the haves and have nots in 0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.720 the NFL. But O'Brien, quinn and Patricia already gone, Lynn, 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.880 Naggie Gaze, Taylor Morone. Maybe I'm forgetting somebody you could 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.240 make a case for firing, even though the Chargers saying 0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.720 not so fast with Anthony Lynn. But then on the 0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:24.960 other side, Flores read Tomlin Belichick with this group Rivera 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:29.320 taking cancer treatments at halftime earlier in the year, Judge Stefanski, 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:34.719 we never say McDermott, we should and Peyton, there's so 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:38.560 many How about Anthony lynnon comparing this season to Pearl Harbor? 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:41.640 Where are we going? Didn't he do that on the 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.239 anniversary of Pearl Harbor? The day after? He said it 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.000 was just Pearl Harbor? Did It's sort of like if 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.640 we could come back from Pearl Harbor. You know what 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.200 he's saying. Nobody has died this year. Boy, he's a 0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.160 special teams coach. He's three years with the Broncos. That's 0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.160 how he broke in as a special teams coach. I 0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.520 mentioned that today and the put team is just so bad. 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.200 They get a pot blocked every week now one returned 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.120 for a touchdown, another one returned sixty one yards last week, 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.840 the second. We're special teams through three quarters through the 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.760 in the last thirty five years, according to d b 0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.560 O a pretty strong number two. Number two Adams, sorry, Adam, 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:18.720 our guest. Adam turned off everybody. Well, I think it's 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.719 a double down on the Saints, like you just mentioned, 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.160 and I like it. And to men to sort of 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.760 follow up on Peyton. He did this last year when 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.880 Bridgewater came in, like they didn't miss a beat and 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:32.480 it was like a much more comparable quarterback style wise debrees. 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.880 But what he's done with Hill this year has been 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.800 really good. But this is now the fourth consecutive week 0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.520 with Hill as the starter where there's been money coming 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.520 in against the Saints. And even there was that COVID 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.719 move against the Broncos with the QB situation, but that 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.400 number was going towards Denver as it was, so there 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.560 was just people that are betting against the Saints and Hill. 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.680 And I think the thing that's sort of being missed 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.160 within this is like, obviously, Hill is a less explosive 0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.520 quarterback option for the Saints to have, if you can 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.760 even say less explosive relative to Breeze, but he reduces 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:08.960 the variance of the offensive game plan too. Essentially nothing right. 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:12.720 It's it's so conservative, it's so safe, but it's very effective. 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:16.240 And in this handicap against the Eagles, Philadelphia one of 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.040 the better front sevens in football, fifth in rushing success 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.000 rate defense for the season, but the couple of games 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.800 where they've really struggled twice against the Giants and then 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.680 once against the Baltimore Ravens. What both of those teams 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.560 have in common, and it's a mobile quarterback, and specifically 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:37.800 the Ravens well, but the Packers more so, like not 0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:42.000 as this power, read, running blocking team like the Ravens were, 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:46.520 but certainly the Packers had success, but it's essentially the 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.560 same scheme that they faced with Baltimore that they just 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.040 couldn't stop. And I would argue that the way the 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.240 season is trending with Hill, the Saints are a little 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.200 bit more effective, get healthier on the offensive line this week, 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.520 healthier on the defensive side as well, And like I 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.880 was looking at this number, so like the market sort 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.640 of established itself early last week with the look Ahead, 0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:08.160 which was six and a half. Obviously smaller limits and 0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.200 smaller beds, but like that number was made before this 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.920 Hurts news was really made public, and so a lot 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.640 of that I think was priced in mind with Wentz 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.720 as the starter, and we haven't seen a huge adjustment. 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.560 It's one bad quarterback to relatively an unknown, but um 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.560 around seven that you're not gonna see a huge move. 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.479 But I think like the downside with Hurts as a rookie, 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:33.000 who's going to make the Eagles more run orientated against 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.800 the Saints defense. It's very good. The downside with Hurts 0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.040 is much greater than the downside with a really bad 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.120 game from Wentz, and so I don't think that that's 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.280 necessarily fully priced into this number. And that's why I 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.960 think there's value, certainly at six and a half with 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.480 the Saints this morning, I like it. We should just 0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.000 let Adam talk rather than three of us probably on 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.680 so number two is is my number two as well 0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.560 on the Saints. I like it Adam when we're on 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.240 the same side here, Mike Palm, everybody. I'm gonna take 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:09.600 Todd's favorite team, the Atlanta Falcons, against Brother Lynn's pathetic Chargers. 0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:15.040 That's my number three, all right. I just I just 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.040 wanted to point out I can't pack the Chargers here, 0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.480 and I think Todd is right. The Falcons defense is improving. 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.160 They were competitive in this game with the Saints. Now 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.320 the missfield goal, I thought they could have opened the 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.840 game up the Saints and they didn't, and they let 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.319 Atlanta hang around there. But look at I'll take I'll 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.960 take Matt Ryan and that offense and an improving defense 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.279 and the special teams. That's not going to kill you. 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.719 Against the Chargers team where the players just have to 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.520 be shaking their heads, asked and where are we at? 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.880 How are we any good? That we continued that we 0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:45.759 lost forty five to nothing in the game. We were 0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.719 a point and a half favorite at home. There could 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.759 be a checkout factor. That's what I'm thinking, I really am. 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:54.000 So that's my number two. Did you see boss quote? Oh? 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.120 I think what reminds us again? What it was? Bosa 0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.200 came out and he said, well, I'm going to be 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.080 playing hard this We we can, but I'm not sure 0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:06.040 anyone else is. I didn't hear that. That's that's amazing 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.879 to come out and say that. Uh. And I can't 0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:13.000 speak for the guy next to me, but I am wow. Um, 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.480 that was that one nipped? Another one for my for 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:20.120 my number three, uh dot number two. My number two 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.120 is going to be done in the voice of a 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:27.280 concerned We are in a lot of trouble here people. 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.040 I know people think eleven and oh, we can't be 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.480 beating at But let me tell you. If Pittsburgh Stollars 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.279 have some problems in running a football, we can't run 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:39.120 the football from don Kown East Liberty, We're gonna have 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.480 a big problem. If we think we're gonna go up 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.240 against the Kansas City Chiefs or even the Buffalo Bills 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.520 this week and think we're just gonna get W after 0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:50.560 W after w we can't do it just throwing the ball. Look, 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.840 I love Big Ben, He's fucking fantastic. But here's the deal. 0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:57.640 We can't run the football. And if you can't run 0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:59.959 the football, the other team can key on what you're doing. 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.680 And that's what the Washington Redskins did and the Worhington 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.400 football team did do us and gave us no opportunities 0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.040 to win a football game we had no business losing. 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:14.239 So I'm really concerned about my Pittsburgh Stellers and I'm 0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.279 gonna go against them because I figure, look if I 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.759 go against them, at least I make some money. If 0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:21.879 they lose the ball game, I don't feel that bad, 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.040 and then I can go have a big milk with 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.320 my family. So here's the deal. I'm taking the Bills, 0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.839 the Buffalo Bills against the Pittsburgh Stellers, and I'm gonna 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.759 lay the minus two and a half. I think that 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.160 Josh Allen guy is gonna give us all kinds of 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.799 trouble all kinds of trouble that Josh Allen and uh, 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.360 I don't know. I don't think we can run the football. 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.959 Bottom line is we're not that great. What's that? What's 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.600 that thing you do a bottom line? I don't get 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:52.440 that part. That's part of the Pittsburgh stiller's voice. And 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.799 Myron Cope used to do that. If you remember him, 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.279 he's the one he used to tell you, Jerome Bus 0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.480 Battis is running down the field, you can't stop stop Bus. 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.120 That was an excellent, excellent you can only do that 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.520 growing up where you did, that's outstanding. Let me ask 0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:10.000 you a question. Big Ben literally has it in his nickname, 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.239 the word big. Does he not sneak anymore either? On 0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.320 fourth and one with just under five minutes left in 0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.440 a tie game, what is that? Adam? I always talk 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.319 about this with Philip Rivers. Ben doesn't do it either. 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:24.080 Now while on the play call and electing to go 0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.120 where they did with that pass was just bizarre. But 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.160 it just picking up five yards for the Steelers passing 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:33.040 and just seems so strenuous, like it's just it's so simplistic, 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.680 an elementary and the rubs that they're running, it's just 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.719 it's tough to watch. I saw your tweet. Non creative. 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.719 That's the exact word to use. It's completely non creative. 0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.000 I don't get it. I don't I don't know the 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.040 deal with big but I said that the Lombardi Lombardi said, 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:47.600 Gilly doesn't want to get hurt. I'm like, at a 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.440 tie game with less than five minutes to get to 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.600 it once. But how are you going to get hurt 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.439 on it? On a quarterback keeper? What's so dangerous about 0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.680 a quarterback keeper? You take the ball, you lunge forward. 0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.560 I mean, unless the guys are gonna like grab your 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.320 balls or something, how are you going to get into it? 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.319 I mean Patrick Mahomes got hurt doing it? Right. So 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.160 there is that bitty itty bitty Breeze sticks the ball 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.080 like this, He takes any just sticks it over. What 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.839 Breeze does that way? Breeze the smallest dude out there, right, 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:15.279 and he does that way? Why can't big men do that? Well? 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.280 First of all, I got I got one other problem. 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.400 You can't win in the NFL throwing every single down. 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.759 You have to be able to run a little bit. 0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.160 Don't you just even a little taste of the run. 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.239 To give the other team maybe the idea that there's 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.239 gonna be something else besides just the seven yard pass. 0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.680 Did you do every play? It's not gonna work. Listen, 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:36.759 I agree with you, Todd. Look at how Kansas City 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:40.919 missed Hilaire Sunday night. That was definitely took some dynosaism 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.319 away from their offense in that game and made them 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:47.120 very vulnerable at home against against the Broncos. Yeah. I'm 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.000 not one of these guys that preaches, oh, you have 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:50.919 to have balance and you have to do this. Look, 0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.720 we've seen Bill Belichick whin running the ball a hundred 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.520 times in a row and throwing the ball hundred times 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.560 in a row. I have no problem if it's done strategically, 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.600 but if it's done because because we cannot run the ball, 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:06.680 which the Washington football team figured out very quickly, you're 0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.759 going to have a problem. And look the Steelers, Let's 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.640 be honest. The Steelers had a bunch of really close 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:16.319 calls early in the year against Denver with Driscoll in there. 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.120 Against Houston. I mean, they're not really an eleven and 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.200 O football teach you all. You all made fun of 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.600 me when I said Kansas City will be minus five 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:26.800 if they come to Pittsburgh in the a f C 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.440 Championship Game. Everyone's like, Oh, that's ridiculous. No, wait, they 0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:39.319 could easily. We both three Chris from Las Vegas, a 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.040 man named Michael Palm who slightly wrote Tuned, and another 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.280 man named Gilly Ice all said I was a lunatic 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.759 for saying that Kansas City couldst not have it. No, 0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.359 but he said that we agreed with you. We didn't 0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.799 agree with him. We didn't agree with I didn't agree 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:55.920 with Chris is going down to the bet with the 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.760 book right now to bet against that idea. That's exactly 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:08.640 there was right, Well done to checkmates. Yeah, can we 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.719 stop with this star? Was the star of Action? That's 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:15.640 disrespectful to crack Wins. Todd was featured in Action. Okay, 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.400 Todd was one of the four major players of Action. 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.239 They plucked him out of a room of people at 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:24.480 the South Points. What's interesting is they picked me to 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.600 be on the Showtime show when I wasn't even planned 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.839 to be on because I'm not really that entertaining. As 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:33.520 most media companies in the sports gambling business, No, Todd, 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.400 you always have a home right here on the megapod 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.279 because I know talent and I see it and I'm 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.480 looking at talent. Damn it, you might be the best 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:45.840 scout of talent since Bill ad Let's not get crazy. Okay, 0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.040 now we're getting two inside jokey and everyone's gonna complain 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.960 because Mikey and Gil do too too many inside jokes. 0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:57.160 I I that people do people of the inside jokes. Yeah, No, 0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.440 it's annoying. It's annoying. We have inside jokes and no 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:03.000 one gets it. That's not fun. It's not fun. There's 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.920 no inside jokes. That was more fun when I make 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:09.640 really obvious jokes or you sing. Yes, we haven't. We 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.279 haven't gotten to the singing portion of the show yet. 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:18.719 Where are we? Number three from Adam? Number two? I'm sorry, Todd. 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.320 That was my pick minus two and a half. Because 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.080 I was listening for the accident. I had no idea 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.600 what the pick was, Alright, Adam was the Bills? Was 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.320 the Bills minus two and a half because the Steelers 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.880 are very concerning to me, and uh, I think the 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.200 Bills can beat the Steelers minus two and a half. 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.840 Anthony McFarland had no idea. That was a back shoulder 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.560 throw by the way did you have do you have 0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.440 last thing about this? Did you have problems getting it? 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.600 I was so frustrated that I could not get this 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.600 game on the local Fox affiliate TMZ showed it. I 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.440 have Direct TV, and it did. I couldn't get it 0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.239 on my phone or on my laptop. Really couldn't get it. 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.400 You have the package, yeah, and but but apparently it 0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.279 was NFL Sunday ticket to everybody. I couldn't get it. No, 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:02.960 I didn't hear that, so I had to drive to 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.240 the South Point. I didn't get it because I have cocks. 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:07.640 I do too, but I thought it was going to 0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:11.280 be on Fox five, so I didn't make an effort 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.279 to be somewhere to watch it right the whole Well, 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:17.000 that was the problem. They didn't communicate that only the 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.080 country was getting The phone was blowing up at two 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.120 oh three with people saying, where the hell is this game? 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:26.839 I tweeted, I said, anybody else infuriated anyway? Adam number three, sir, 0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:30.960 So I haven't bet it yet and so we don't 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.000 have to count it for the pot. But like six 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.080 and a half that I think turns into seven for 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:38.160 the Buccaneers is way too high. Against the Vikings, and 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.600 so like I'm looking at that one a lot closer 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.879 to three and a half. There's other ratings that will 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.480 make that a lot closer, Like this is this is 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:49.759 Buck's territory when they were favorite against the Panthers. This 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.560 was Bucks with the price they were against the Broncos 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.480 like that. I think that this is out of line. 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.400 And I think the Vikings going to overtime and playing 0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.279 essentially a full extra ten minutes against the Jags looking 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.080 as bad as they did, um is is sort of 0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.319 fueling this move that's going up a little bit. But 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:07.440 I'm waiting for this one to get the seven. I'll 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.680 bet it when it gets there. If I have to 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:11.360 buy it because it's not gonna move, I'm going to 0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.720 do that as well. But I think the Vikings getting 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.600 points here um certainly worth a look. I think it's 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.239 a terrific game for Zimmer and now he sets up 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.879 like Brady under pressure. It's been a decline the last 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:26.120 three years. It's very noticeable this year. Um And when 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.480 you're facing a guy like Zimmer who's just so creative 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.319 and and the game plans he puts together, how he 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.960 disguises his blitz is. I think it's just a perfect 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.359 opportunity to him for just to have a sort of 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:36.920 his best game plan of the year and sort of 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.080 an all in spot for the Vikings. Do you want 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.160 to attribute what they sort of made everyone sweat who 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.919 had them and survivor last year last week potentially sort 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.520 of a look ahead spot for them in this in 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.239 this matchup. So for me, I think that this number 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.799 is way out of line. I'm happy to wait it 0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:55.200 out and see if it gets the seven. But if 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:56.879 I have to buy it, I'll certainly buy the six 0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.839 and a half of the seven two out of three 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:04.120 remaining survivor entries that had to sweat out Minnesota UH 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.480 and the h and the Jaguars last week. Minnesota, really 0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.120 Dan Bailey missed two extraployers. He missed a field goal. 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.920 That first Jacksonville touchdown literally bounced off the back of 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.279 a Vikings defender. There was a pick six, like the 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.600 Vikings should have won that going away. Um. Just to 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.640 add to that, UM, Mikey, since I've already done three, 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.080 because I'm on your Atlanta Falcons is number three? What's 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.480 your number three? I'm gonna play over Monday night in 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:34.880 the Ravens Browns Game seven. I'm saying, over that's fine, 0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.560 it's okay, okay, look at that. But you know, I 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.279 think Mayfield's improving. I think they move them around. They 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:46.560 can run the ball. Think about Baltimore is that their 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:50.880 running game is dynamic, right, and they have these burst 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.720 runs they don't take for a team that's a predominant 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.200 running team. They don't have seventeen play drives, right, they 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.680 have eight play drives and nine play so they don't 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:02.239 choose the clock like a tradition running team would. Uh. 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.520 And also interesting, when Jackson throws the ball, there's a 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.000 lot of incompletion, so the clock stops. Right. There's the 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.920 very few short games for that team. They either hit 0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.000 they hit a play action play that goes for twenty. 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.239 They bust a run for seventeen, so they moved the 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.480 ball quickly. The Browns can run the football, which sets 0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.640 up Baker. Look, Tennessee last week said we're gonna pack 0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.520 everybody in the box that make Baker beat us, And 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.399 that's what he did. I mean, they were guys were 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.520 running wide open because they had everybody up front. So 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:30.120 there's a low total for the NFL forty seven relatively 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.640 this year, and so I'm over they well thought out pick. 0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:34.480 I wish I had thought of that well, thank you, 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.200 Lamar Jackson was so inaccurate the other day. It's harm 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:41.319 I mean not even close. Yeah, Like at forty seven 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:46.319 over from Mikey Baltimore in Cleveland, dot. Um from my 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:50.040 last pick, I am going to go with the under 0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:55.719 in the Washington football team against the forty Niners. Um. 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.360 I the under I see as forty three? Is that 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:02.040 what is correct? For three? I'm gonna go under. And 0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.680 the reason I'm gonna go under is I think Nick 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.960 Mullins is not an NFL starting quarterback. Uh So, I'm 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:13.400 not really too concerned about the Redskins scoring a lot 0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:17.520 against a Washington defense, by the way, quietly is a 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.560 very good defense. Their fourth in the league in yards 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.480 per play. The Washington defense. Now, granted, the Steelers can't 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.480 run the ball, but the Steelers do move the ball 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.239 against most teams, and the Redskins were really giving them 0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.200 a lot of trouble. The Washington football team, I think 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.520 is a very good defensive football team. I think they're 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:36.279 in the top ten, I really do. It shouldn't be 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:40.359 quiet because they've had so many high draft picks on defense, right, 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.799 Chase Young and Darn Payne and Montez Sweat. Jonathan Ellen 0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.400 wasn't even on the field against the Steelers. Karrogan is 0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.839 still an old veteran top pick. I mean, they are 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.600 littered with top defensive draft choices. It would better be 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.000 good by this point. Well, I just think it's a 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.120 pretty darn good defense, and I think they're gonna be 0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:59.040 able to handle Nick Mullins, who I does not you know, 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.279 impress me? Uh. For San Francisco. On the other hand, 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.120 San Francisco's positives on their side of the ball is 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.040 defense as well. And it's not like Alex Smith to 0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.440 mckissic is gonna work as well as it did against 0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.640 the Steelers late in the game when they just saw, oh, 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:16.560 here's the idea, let's just throw Tomkissic for six yards 0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:20.239 every single play. So uh, I have a feeling that 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:24.759 the smart coaching staff for the Niners will cook up 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:28.120 some defensive goo losh from Mr Alex Smith, and it's 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.400 probably gonna be maybe seventeen points from him, twenty points 0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.759 from one of the other teams we're looking at. I 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.000 I just like under forty three in this. I think 0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.680 both team strengths are on defense, and while forty three 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.080 is a low number in the National Football League nowadays, 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.680 I could totally see this as both coaches just being 0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:49.160 super conservative. Let's just play, you know, ground and pound, 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.759 and let's go under forty three. That's the other thing 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.440 thought about your Stiller's concern. The Skins did that with 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.359 Washington Football team did that with Antonio Gibson getting turf 0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.480 toe with the first quarter, never came back and Terry 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:04.960 McLaurin two catches for fourteen yards. He's by far their 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.759 biggest playmaker, and Washington still beat them down fourteen. They 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.560 had to kiss it and no one could guard the kissing. 0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:15.520 For some reason, stealers didn't realize that if you run 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.000 the exact same play over and over and over and 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.279 it gets eight in nine yards every single play, that's 0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.640 probably not gonna win you a football game. It's weird 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:26.440 being a Washington football team fan because the quarterback of 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.359 the future is not on that roster, but there with 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.560 Alex Smith. And I can't believe I'm saying this because 0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.800 I was only please don't get back on the field. 0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.399 I'm terrified for you that, like he's clearly the best 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.600 quarterback that they could have had. But Gil Alex Smith 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:44.360 was a decent Let's call him a slightly above average 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.080 quarterback when he was on Kansas City. Maybe I think 0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:50.040 he was better than that. Okay, so I was being conservative. 0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:53.880 Let's call him solidly above average quarterback when he was 0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.560 on Kansas City. Solidly he got Kapper nicked and he 0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:00.120 got Mahomes, right. I mean, that's that's his career, right. So, 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:01.880 but what I'm saying is, why are we so surprised 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.600 that Alex Smith is No, We're not surprised. I just 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.080 didn't want the guy to get out on the field 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:07.960 because I was terrified for him. We're not surprised. But 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:09.759 I guess what I'm saying is this is the best 0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.080 version of Washington that you may get until they find 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.320 a guy, you know, whether in this draft or otherwise. 0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:17.680 I don't know what my point was. I thought he 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.399 was good at Utah. He was the number one pick 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.680 in the draft, for goodness, very good at Utah. Remember 0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:25.160 he was he was the guy that was picked first, 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:27.600 while Aaron Rodgers just sat there for twenty some picks 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:30.440 and then sat there for another few years in Green Bay. 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:36.360 True Dad. Alright, teaser, guys, our favorite two leg six 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:39.440 point teaser of the week. You're allowed to use sides 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:47.960 or totals. Mr Churnoff, Well, I think I'm always sort 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:50.680 of opposed to teasing down big the big numbers with 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.200 big totals, But I think I absolutely have to bring 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:57.200 Green Bay down below the six to four and the three, 0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:01.880 and then I think naturally pair that with um the 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.080 Saints if they're at seven, bringing them down to one 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.480 as well. So I would go, I would go Green 0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:13.800 Bay and the Saints. He's down, packers, chiefs, packers chiefs. Okay, Todd, 0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.880 hang on stenographizing here. So we got minus one and 0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:22.520 a half for Green Bay for Mike and Kansas City. 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:26.279 Where's Kansas City again? All Right, I'll just I'll just 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.080 do I'm just gonna do the round robbin with these guys. 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:33.839 New Orleans. Kansas City is actually mine, Okay, I'm gonna 0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.560 go with your Okay, New Orleans for gil New Orleans 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:43.480 minus one in Kansas City minus one and a half, right, correct, 0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.000 Well it kind of looks kind of minus oneing now, 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:50.279 but yeah, minus one and a half. Okay, So I'm 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.880 gonna go with um Green Bay minus one and a 0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:58.160 half as well, and um, just so that we're not 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:01.080 all doing exactly the Saints be authentic, dude, what it 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.120 was gonna be? Don't just makes all up? Well, I 0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.200 I didn't really do a good job with my teaser 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.880 preparation today. It wasn't really positive. Who I wanted to 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:12.080 get with the teaser question every week anyway, I just 0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.880 to do something different this week. I want to go 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:22.320 with the Browns plus eight. How about that Brown's plus eight? Yeah, okay, 0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.400 if Baltimore wins, that game looks like a five and 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.480 oh very well possible five and oh finish for Baltimore 0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:33.719 a f C price is awfully I right now, Yeah, 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:37.120 what is it? Eighteen to one? What is it? Before 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:39.759 the Dallas game? It was eighteen. It's come down right 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:42.839 around fourteen to one now. But like you consider, if 0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:45.040 they if they get through Cleveland, like you said, that's 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.440 probably they're running the table and finishing with eleven wins. 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.680 They probably get the five seed. And then outside of 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.879 k C, who are they more than a three point 0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.960 underdog at most within the a f C. I don't 0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.920 think anyone so Like from a Hedge perspective, if you 0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:04.760 want to go that way. You're probably working back against 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:07.439 that once they get into playoffs, never really laying more 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.120 than one minus one forty against. That's a that's a 0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:13.560 big number. I gotta get it before this game though, 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:17.120 before the clean because that's where the EU. But I 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:20.480 don't think Baltimore. I mean, I understand from a price perspective, 0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:22.960 I agree with Adam, but from a are they the 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.080 same Ravens. They're not the same Ravens. People have figured 0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.800 out Lamar Jackson. No no, no, no, no, no, Todd, 0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:33.120 I'm sorry to interrupt, Okay, but they figured out Greg Roman. 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.320 Greg Roman is a one hinted wonder. He had Kaepernick 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.880 great for a year, second year, figured him out, Lamar 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.440 Jackson great for a year, second year, figured him out. 0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:44.200 Doesn't know how to run the four. He's not creative enough. 0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.439 They should hire Kubiak. Kubiak would be a much better 0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:51.840 coordinator for the Ravens. I stand corrected by Michael Palm. 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.640 I'm not going to argue with him about who is 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.520 the person that we should be saying they figured out. 0:52:57.800 --> 0:52:59.919 But if you want to stay it's Greg Roman. That's 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.759 mine to the bottom line is Baltimore is not the 0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:06.080 same football ball team on offense. Regardless of who they 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:08.279 figured out, they figured out something and it's just not 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.759 the same team. The name Lamar Jackson has taken enough 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:12.840 guff for one week. It doesn't need to be to 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.800 Lamar Jackson's. But I will say this about Baltimore and 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.680 agree or disagree that they are I mean, I guess 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:22.040 you could say this about a lot of teams in 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:23.960 the history of the NFL, but they feel to me 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:27.160 to be the poster child of this. If they get ahead, 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:31.760 they are so much more dangerous than when they fall behind, 0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.279 Like there's a It just feels like game script for 0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.520 them is everything, because if they fall behind and they 0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:40.759 have to throw the football, you're like, they're they're I 0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:42.879 feel great being on the other side. If they get ahead, 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.000 let's just say a f C championship game, and they 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.720 get ahead of the Chiefs, Hey you got a game, 0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:50.200 you know, in a in a way that you might 0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:52.960 not otherwise with some other team. I don't overstate it, 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:54.239 but that's how it feels to me. Does that make 0:53:54.280 --> 0:54:00.120 any sense for the It's like the worst opponent for 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.680 the Chiefs to face. Gommatically two if they fall behind 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:07.960 as well, right, that's right. They're great from ahead. By 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:10.239 the way, you get aside from Kansas City. You can 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:12.560 throw all the rest of the playoff teams in the 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.880 a f C in one big jumble, and who knows 0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:20.160 who's gonna win any game Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Indianapolis versus Tennessee, 0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:24.640 Tennessee against the Browns can Miami. Maybe Miami's a slightly 0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:26.839 below the other ones, But the rest of them, if 0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:28.879 you just throw them all in a big bunch, who 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.439 who the hell knows who's gonna be the right team. 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.719 The a f C playoffs, though, seven deep is gonna 0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:37.759 be awesome because those are seven teams. Yeah, if the 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.760 Raiders don't get in there, for instance, But like the NFC, 0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.360 there's gonna be one or two or even three crap 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.600 teams in there for sure, including the NFC East winner. 0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:48.440 Although I don't know if you want to play Washington now, 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.600 which is crazy to say, I don't want to play 0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:53.480 that deep. Well, do you play with mckissic or without mckissic, 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.799 because you can't stop him the MS By the way, 0:54:56.840 --> 0:55:00.520 it's a platoon between mckissic and Barber as Bryce sits 0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:02.600 on the sidelines like let me. I want to play. 0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:04.920 No one can stop in the kissing. He's he's like 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.160 Michael Jordan. You can only hope to contain him. Um, okay, 0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:10.400 what was your so? What was your teaser in the end? Cleveland? 0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:13.000 And who was Green Bay? Minus one and a half 0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:15.719 and I'm concerned about it because everyone likes it and 0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:19.560 Cleveland plus eight? Okay, so Survivor. Before we get to 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:24.160 the final two questions, eighty nine entries left, eight two 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:28.640 of whom have Seattle available. Seattle is the biggest favorite 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.480 on the board, close to a two touchdown favorite against 0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:34.480 the Jets. This is uh. I believe this is the 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:39.160 last week where the quote unquote obvious pick is still 0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:43.680 available to most. After this week it will get Nutso. 0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.799 But this week the question becomes, do you just take 0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:51.680 the Seahawks and say, you know what, let's just forget 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:55.799 about this week, will resume play next week? Or do 0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.160 you say to yourself because as I've said many times, 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.759 Survivor is a misnamed game. By the way, you you 0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:03.920 quoted a name one of our named one of the 0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:07.120 visa hosts. Because I know you're not allowed to say 0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.719 my name apparently on that show. But you said uh, 0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:11.480 I said, it's a misname game, right, it should be 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:16.160 called winner, not survivor. Um, Gil, why isn't Mike allowed 0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:18.399 to say your name? Because I didn't know that he wasn't. 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:20.359 But the other day he's on there and he's like 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:24.600 another host on this network, said one of our hosts. 0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:27.319 I couldn't say my name that the contest don't know 0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:30.120 what it is. But I don't, Mike, why aren't you 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:36.240 allowed to say his name? Gil is making an assumption. Um, 0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:39.160 it might be wrong, it might be right, to be right. 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.439 I don't know, but I don't say other host names. 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.680 You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:47.479 bring up Donna, Danny Burke on their show. Wait this, 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:51.040 this is across the board post. You don't say any 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.480 host name. It has nothing to do with I don't 0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:55.399 know if they know there are any other hosts. That's true. 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:58.399 That's a good point. They may not be aware. They 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:02.879 may not be aware. You say Lombardi's name, don't you? Yes, 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.239 he does, I do, but he's on their show every week. 0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:11.440 Is a spinster. I'm a spinster. A spinster, Mikey. I'm 0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:13.160 not judging you in any way. I'm just trying to 0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:15.359 understand whose name you're allowed to say and whose name 0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.479 you're not allowed. That's all I'm not allowed to say 0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:23.280 Todd W on one of the weekend shows that I 0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:27.480 was chance received that please do not say Todd W's 0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:34.600 name had finishing the thought. So the question becomes, do 0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:37.200 you just take Seattle and act like you know what 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:40.440 will resume real survivor play next week? Or do you 0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.280 play to win? And first of all, if you have 0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:45.440 two entries, maybe you definitely do this. But if you 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.960 have one entry, do you have the cajones the onions 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:53.680 to play another team and hope for a Seattle Seahawks calamity, 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:56.120 at which point you will rise to the mountain test? 0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.440 You have to assess your belief in the Jets ability 0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:01.200 to win that game. Yes, that that's what it comes 0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:03.840 down to. Here's the question, let's do another over under 0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:08.640 how many of the two use Seattle. Well, that's kind 0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.760 of the question asking well, what do you think I 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.840 will do? My numbers? My number is seventy two and 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.200 a half. I said, seventy five was the first number 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.080 that came into my head. Not everyone will do it. 0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:22.479 Not ever, the five entries with two the five guys 0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:24.360 with two, Well, there's an argument, did you want to 0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:25.800 move both of them on because you have a big 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:29.120 advantage for sure, or you take the shot. But I'm 0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:31.000 just glad that this is the last week where that's 0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:33.080 the chimp. Then there will be the picks are going 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:36.240 to be scattered the last three weeks. Absolutely, Um, did 0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:38.600 you like last thing? Did you like like my discussion? 0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:39.880 I don't know if you're aware of until I sent 0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:42.640 it to you, but Las Vegas, Chris and I had 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:46.160 this ongoing debate and there's no right answer. What would 0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:48.960 you rather have right now? A circuit survivor entry that 0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.680 is still alive one of the last eighty nine, or 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:55.880 be in contention in circummillions? Keep in mind, as you 0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:59.480 very well know, fifty places get cash and millions and 0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:02.880 survive or is chop or zero? But to me, it's 0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:05.880 not even close. For you, it's it's survivor. I mean, 0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:07.800 it's the whole thing, the whole too, it's the whole 0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:10.200 experience you've had, right gil, and to get to and 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.840 to get to this point, and let's face it, and 0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.560 I brought it up, uh you know, or or Todd 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:18.280 brought it up. This picking five games against the number 0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.920 of Oh god, is this hard? I mean, this is 0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:22.919 really it's hard enough to find two games each week 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:25.320 or three that we try to do. So, I mean, 0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:27.120 even if I was in like tenth place, I would 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:30.000 not feel any sort of confidence that I could maintain 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:32.360 and not slip way down to only getting three thousand back? 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:35.080 Or can I get a commitment from you? You may 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:37.240 have already promised this is somebody else? Can I get 0:59:37.280 --> 0:59:38.880 a commitment from you that I get to interview the 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:46.120 person who finishes last in millions first? Sure? Because you 0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:53.680 should get somebody first. I mean turn off? Oh yeah, right, yeah, 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:58.760 like that's the way it flows. Yeah, okay, right? Um? 0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:04.640 That say that is a that person is the most 1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:07.959 amazing person in all of this. How they could overcome 1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:14.240 even quarterlies to suck so consistently And you can't try 1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:16.560 to suck? Can you know? They have to? These people 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:18.320 that have been at the bottom have been there since 1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:20.800 like week four and five. It's the same twenty people. 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.680 But how can you, like, if you're if you're that 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:24.520 good at sucking, why didn't you just try to win 1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:26.600 the thing? True? But you you started out bad for 1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:28.480 three weeks and then you said let's just go against 1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:31.760 it was that. But the mirror is the guidance in 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.840 first is forty five and fifteen, and the three way 1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:39.080 tie for last is fifteen and forty five. How many 1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:43.760 weeks is it, sorry, and twenty and on the opposite 1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:48.240 side it's twenty and forty five. But that's just that's 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:52.320 just that's just a distribution issue. I always gonna be Pete. 1:00:52.520 --> 1:00:56.600 I agree with you, Todd, I agree to costco issue. No, 1:00:56.800 --> 1:00:59.000 you have to. You're always going If you have a 1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:01.800 pool of people, there's gonna be people like, for instance, 1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:04.160 in my example of the bad beats, I am in 1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:07.320 the fifth standard deviation for bad beats, and there's somebody 1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:09.760 else who's in the fifth standard deviation for good beats. 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.600 And that is always going to be the scenario. If 1:01:12.640 --> 1:01:15.440 you put a blanket over a large group of anything, 1:01:15.640 --> 1:01:17.600 there's always gonna be people on one side of the 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:20.000 standard beach and people on the other side. So those 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:22.800 people soon like five of those people will go five 1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:25.000 and oh. This week, you know somebody will go five. 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.920 And you can't guarantee that you'll stay bad, is what 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:33.280 I'm saying. People went five and oh. But you see, 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:35.960 if people went oh in five. But what I'm saying 1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:37.920 is the people, if you just take the people are 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:40.760 in the worst, they'll probably be close to from here 1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:42.600 on out. That's all I'm trying to say. I agree, 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:45.320 I agree. These people don't have a special talent at sucking. 1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:48.320 It's amazing that they were able to suck as well 1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:52.480 as they have through through Quarterly's right, because if you're middling, 1:01:52.520 --> 1:01:54.320 every time a quarterly comes up, you're like, hey, I 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:57.400 can I'm back to zero and zero. But they have 1:01:57.800 --> 1:02:02.280 managed somehow too over come good, you know, positive variants. 1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:05.040 It's just like in a in a basketball game, if 1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:07.720 a team makes six three pointers in a row, you 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:09.920 know they're going the point spread is gonna go up, 1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:12.160 but it still has to reflect the rest of the game. 1:02:12.480 --> 1:02:14.960 It doesn't mean they're going to continually hit the next 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:17.000 six three pointers in a row. By the way, Mikey 1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:19.520 talking about flow, Mike, everything that comes out of easy mouth, 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:23.080 you're like his mouth piece. Now on, now, come on, now, 1:02:23.200 --> 1:02:27.959 I don't know that that's accurate. It might it. I didn't. 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:30.640 As long as you're hurling takes some incoming while you're 1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:33.200 at it. I didn't go to a pack twelve school. 1:02:35.360 --> 1:02:37.560 I did not. You have to respect him for for 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:41.440 what he's accomplished. All right, Final two questions, guys, Final 1:02:41.480 --> 1:02:47.240 two questions, Uh, the large favorite, most likely to lose? Outright, 1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:51.520 we will give you the candidates. The candidates are Tampa 1:02:51.640 --> 1:02:55.640 Bay six and a half point favorites, hosting Minnesota, Tennessee 1:02:55.680 --> 1:02:58.960 seven and a half point favorites at Jacksonville. Not really 1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:01.040 sure how much home field means in any of this anymore, 1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:04.320 Kansas City seven and a half point favorites or seven 1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:05.880 somewhere in that pocket. Don't think it's seven and a 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:10.919 half consensus produced us at Miami. Uh, Seattle, of course, 1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:12.800 the biggest favorite on the board, thirteen and a half 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:15.680 point favorites hosting the Jets, Green Bay seven and a 1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:20.000 half point favorites at Detroit. Let's see what else, New Orleans. 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:22.560 Now it's six and a half as we did this podcast, 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:25.360 it's down the six and a half point favorites at Philadelphia, 1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:28.160 toggling between the two. Those are your candidates of all 1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:29.880 of those, Adam, and I think you might have already 1:03:29.920 --> 1:03:32.160 hinted at who you would pick here. Who's the most 1:03:32.240 --> 1:03:36.400 likely to lose? Outright? Yeah, I think it's Tampa Bay. 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:38.919 Part of me sort of went to Tennessee. But it's 1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:41.520 that's I think that the Titans look a lot better 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:42.920 this week than then did last week. But I think 1:03:42.920 --> 1:03:45.960 it's it's certainly Tampa Bay in this spot. I agree. 1:03:46.640 --> 1:03:48.560 I think they're the most vulnerable and they've shown the 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:54.640 most regression that I want to see Tennis Tennessee. But 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:57.520 because I didn't sing yet, I'm gonna go with the 1:03:57.680 --> 1:04:03.080 Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins. Mess with that team and their 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:08.880 coach will be your ass. Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins, they're 1:04:08.920 --> 1:04:13.840 going to the playoffs this year. Wow, well done crow 1:04:13.880 --> 1:04:15.680 barring it in before the end of the show. Well, 1:04:15.680 --> 1:04:17.640 if you don't crow bar it in, then people get mad. 1:04:17.640 --> 1:04:20.240 They're like, where was the Miami Dolphins song? Most asked 1:04:20.320 --> 1:04:24.040 question of the podcast this year? All about Miami Dolphins 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:27.840 songs from Todd You're mad at me? No, oh, I'm 1:04:27.880 --> 1:04:29.840 not mad at you. People love to hear him sing 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:32.480 and they love the new thing will be the Pittsburgh accent. 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:37.120 I think that's even better than the Dolphins. You're like, 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:41.120 you're look if youns Ever went down and for Manny 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:43.280 Brothers and had a giant mill. Let's say it was 1:04:43.320 --> 1:04:45.160 a Sunday you were in a Pirate game or at 1:04:45.160 --> 1:04:47.440 a Penguin game, or maybe even a story game. You 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:49.320 could have been in any of those kind of games, 1:04:49.560 --> 1:04:52.640 or maybe even Panthers. Youns love the college sports, that's 1:04:52.640 --> 1:04:56.320 all good too. Whatever it iss, are gonna want to 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:59.680 watch sports in Pittsburgh. That's what we do here in 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:02.880 pitt We love sports. What is where? What happens is 1:05:02.920 --> 1:05:06.360 that an r that that happens on No, it happens 1:05:06.360 --> 1:05:09.920 on els Like if I said I have you, you 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:15.400 have to say, properly interesting, what's with the French fries 1:05:15.400 --> 1:05:17.520 in the sandwiches? Who's the genius behind that? That's the 1:05:17.560 --> 1:05:21.400 greatest Pittsburgh thing ever well being is that I wasn't 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:23.560 a typical unser and that I wasn't allowed to go 1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:26.000 to for Manny Brothers when I was a youngster because 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:28.120 I was an Orthodox Jew and that and they didn't 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:30.520 let me go to non Kosher restaurants in that so 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:31.880 that was a big problem for me. I had to 1:05:31.880 --> 1:05:34.840 go to the goddamn kosher restaurant was just like horrible, 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:36.720 And I would have loved to have a sandwich with 1:05:36.840 --> 1:05:39.200 some French fries. One of the one of the saddest things. 1:05:39.280 --> 1:05:41.480 Todd not to be labored. This one of the saddest 1:05:41.520 --> 1:05:43.400 things you ever told. Man. You were sort of joking 1:05:43.440 --> 1:05:45.360 about it. Maybe you weren't choking, but I like wanted 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:47.840 to cry after you told me this. The notion of 1:05:47.880 --> 1:05:52.040 you wearing the full Orthodox thing on a Saturday having 1:05:52.120 --> 1:05:56.439 to look through the store window to watch college football. Oh, 1:05:56.600 --> 1:05:59.080 this no, the saddest that that was the saddest ever. 1:05:59.200 --> 1:06:02.520 I was still talks. I was about seventeen. I was 1:06:02.600 --> 1:06:05.880 going to Yeshiva University at the time. I was about 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:09.960 seventeen or eighteen years old, and I was still Orthodors 1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:12.919 at the time, and I was a huge college basketball fan. 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:17.640 And Pitt was playing Georgetown in a huge Saturday afternoon game. 1:06:18.040 --> 1:06:20.919 And so I walked over to like St. Nicholas, which 1:06:21.080 --> 1:06:23.960 it was like a huge Dominican street. And I was terrified, 1:06:23.960 --> 1:06:25.680 of course, because we were taught to be very very 1:06:25.800 --> 1:06:27.440 terrified of the other people. You know, they were going 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:29.840 to hurt us, you know, God forbid. So I walked 1:06:29.880 --> 1:06:33.080 over to St. Nicholas and I looked through the the 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:37.200 window of the TV store where they had pit against Georgetown, 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:39.160 and it was the game where there was a big 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:40.760 fight at the end of the game. Do you remember 1:06:40.760 --> 1:06:42.680 that game? There was like a giant fight with like 1:06:42.760 --> 1:06:46.800 five seconds, like Jerome Lane and Charles Smith, and we 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:49.600 had an Austin team pit against Georgetown, and you know 1:06:49.640 --> 1:06:51.200 I had to watch it through the window. I mean 1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:53.240 it was a very very but but the biggest thing 1:06:53.280 --> 1:06:55.560 I'm really most upset about it, and this will be 1:06:55.560 --> 1:06:57.680 in my class action suit against my mother and all 1:06:57.680 --> 1:07:00.600 the other mothers in the community. I am Harry Barry 1:07:00.680 --> 1:07:02.840 upset that I didn't get to be the quarterback at 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:07.880 alder Dicearts alma mater. And I was better than the 1:07:07.960 --> 1:07:10.440 kid who played quarterback. His name was tator On, a 1:07:10.520 --> 1:07:12.840 great kid. Used to play basketball and football with him 1:07:12.840 --> 1:07:14.400 all the time up in the j c C. I 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:16.840 was much better than him. He was the starting quarterback 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:19.040 and I would have been the starting quarterback. Can you 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:23.240 imagine my mother taking that opportunity away from me. She 1:07:23.320 --> 1:07:26.720 deserves to lose every asset she ever had in a 1:07:26.760 --> 1:07:30.840 class action suit child abuse. Where would you go live 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:34.000 if she lost her house? That would be a problem, 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:38.560 but I'm sure you would might be a problem. But 1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:40.680 I'm sure you would take in because you were a 1:07:40.680 --> 1:07:42.600 man of the you know, do you try to help 1:07:42.640 --> 1:07:46.480 the poor and the wounded and anything like that. You know, 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:49.600 you're a big believer in you know, whatever you do. Alright. 1:07:49.680 --> 1:07:52.080 The final question, because we're over time here seven minutes. 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:55.080 Final question. If we lived in a bizarro world and 1:07:55.120 --> 1:07:57.400 we had to bet on a side on each and 1:07:57.440 --> 1:07:59.840 every one of the sixteen games. Remember no more buys. 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:03.720 Everybody's playing starting tonight. But you were allowed one free 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:06.360 pass one game you had to you could make fifteen. 1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:08.360 You had to make fifteen bets. But there was one 1:08:08.400 --> 1:08:09.720 game on the side where you're like, you know what, 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:13.560 this is the game I would not touch. Ever? What 1:08:13.640 --> 1:08:18.439 game would that be? Adam h The Dallas Cowboys because 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:20.720 it looks so tempting to bet against the Bengals with 1:08:20.800 --> 1:08:24.240 Brandon Allen. They just look horrendous offensively, But how can 1:08:24.280 --> 1:08:26.920 you trust Dallas in any game the rest of the season. 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:29.040 So I, even though that number looks a little short, 1:08:29.120 --> 1:08:30.720 I just I couldn't do it. By the way, my 1:08:30.800 --> 1:08:33.080 pick for the big favorite most likely loser oute out 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:35.599 right if anyone cares was Tampa Bay as well. Uh, 1:08:35.760 --> 1:08:39.160 Mike game I don't know what to make of that game. 1:08:39.240 --> 1:08:43.000 I just I, uh, I can't play the Bengals, and 1:08:43.080 --> 1:08:45.280 yet I can't play the Cowboys either. I what are 1:08:45.320 --> 1:08:48.800 you going to get out of either side? The Yeah, 1:08:49.160 --> 1:08:52.360 you know it's I tell you if you if you 1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:54.600 held a gun into my head, I'd probably take Cincinnati, 1:08:54.640 --> 1:08:57.400 but I'm not playing it. No one uses that phrase anymore. 1:08:57.439 --> 1:08:59.800 Have you noticed everybody stopped at the same time come 1:08:59.840 --> 1:09:03.720 to the head thing? Yeah, socially because everyone's walking around strapped, 1:09:04.000 --> 1:09:09.960 But most people have nives, knives, ships, ships, Todd. Alright, Todd, 1:09:10.000 --> 1:09:14.479 what is your's your pick? I would probably go with 1:09:14.520 --> 1:09:17.599 the Cardinals against the Giants. I'm not sure what's happened 1:09:17.600 --> 1:09:20.599 to my boy, uh Kyler. He doesn't want to run anymore. 1:09:20.680 --> 1:09:23.280 That was what was making him so dynamic, his ability 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:25.680 to run and also throw the football. So I'm a 1:09:25.680 --> 1:09:27.960 little worried about that team. On the other side, I 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:30.960 have the Giants who been playing well defensively, but Colt 1:09:31.040 --> 1:09:33.559 McCoy is still the quarterback. Who you know, he's a 1:09:33.600 --> 1:09:35.960 good game manager and all. But I'm not really sure 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:37.639 what to make of this football game. So I'm gonna 1:09:37.640 --> 1:09:40.240 stay away. Uh It was a toss up for me 1:09:40.280 --> 1:09:43.599 between Cardinals Giants in Denver and Carolina. But I think 1:09:43.600 --> 1:09:46.240 it's Cardinals Giants. I don't I don't know if Kyler 1:09:46.320 --> 1:09:49.960 Murray is hurt or not, and so for that reason 1:09:50.160 --> 1:09:52.519 might be heard. Also that's the other thing. Yeah, that's 1:09:52.920 --> 1:09:55.960 what we tell us. Adam is he hurt, He's got 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:58.800 the shoulder issue, but he's I've never seen someone downplaying 1:09:58.880 --> 1:10:01.640 injuries consistently. He has, and he says the defenses have 1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:04.200 just figured out Kingsbury and they're making him hand the 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:07.160 ball off. But that seems like a odd excuse that 1:10:07.200 --> 1:10:09.880 the Cardinals, with this offensive genius as the coordinator, would 1:10:09.880 --> 1:10:11.960 be able to figure out. But I think there's something 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:14.080 more to it. Yeah, I'd say that game because of 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:16.720 that Arizona Giants. By the way, James Connor is back 1:10:16.760 --> 1:10:19.120 for your stillers. Todd just want to point that out 1:10:19.160 --> 1:10:22.360 for this game. Never think. I was never a big 1:10:22.400 --> 1:10:24.360 fan of his, and I don't think the running back, 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:27.600 unless you're a superstar running back, the running back is 1:10:27.600 --> 1:10:30.400 not the key to the the offensive the run game. 1:10:30.560 --> 1:10:32.679 The key of the run game is the offensive line. 1:10:32.840 --> 1:10:35.320 If you can't open holes, it doesn't matter who you 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:37.960 have back there. Unless you have like Barry Sanders. If 1:10:37.960 --> 1:10:41.639 you don't have something like special, you can't run the ball. 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:45.840 If you can't open holes, there are no holes. Would 1:10:45.840 --> 1:10:50.240 you say, Mike, I can't hear Mike, can't hear you. Mike. Oh, 1:10:51.439 --> 1:10:54.320 what did you say, Mike? Go ahead? Go ahead? No? No, 1:10:54.400 --> 1:10:58.360 what did you say? Nothing? Go ahead? Edited? Just just 1:10:58.439 --> 1:11:00.559 go Todd, what do you want to say? Nothing? I 1:11:00.640 --> 1:11:02.439 was just saying, if there's no holes to run through, 1:11:02.479 --> 1:11:04.240 you can't run. So it doesn't matter if James Conner, 1:11:04.280 --> 1:11:06.840 whoever comes up, Franco Harris could come back, you can't run, 1:11:08.360 --> 1:11:11.080 all right, lend it on that anything to say, Mike, 1:11:11.600 --> 1:11:13.519 it was really nice to have Adam on. It was 1:11:13.560 --> 1:11:16.200 a terrific job, not just on the NFL but on 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:19.320 a variety of sports. And you know, he's had a 1:11:19.360 --> 1:11:21.439 little bit of a tough season with a big bounce 1:11:21.479 --> 1:11:24.280 back here. But people have to understand that this is 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:26.320 there's gonna be ebbs and flows even for the best, 1:11:26.880 --> 1:11:28.600 the best in the world of doing this, and you 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:30.880 have to be able to understand that and get yourself 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:33.360 through it and not change the way um that you 1:11:33.400 --> 1:11:35.799 approach or manage your money or look at these games. 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:39.240 That's right, Adam. You do a tremendous job with the podcast. 1:11:40.240 --> 1:11:42.160 When you named it, I was when you named it 1:11:42.200 --> 1:11:44.639 the Simple Handicap. There must have been a reason for 1:11:44.680 --> 1:11:49.519 that title specifically, what was it um? It was actually 1:11:50.479 --> 1:11:52.519 a whole article series that I was doing, and I 1:11:52.520 --> 1:11:55.559 originally put it on like the Amazon Alexa devices. But 1:11:55.720 --> 1:11:58.400 the premise was it was going to be just a quick, 1:11:58.400 --> 1:12:01.360 concise podcast every morning that and it was it was 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:04.160 just explaining the the easiest way for both of the 1:12:04.200 --> 1:12:07.000 teams to win or what their success was within the handicaps. 1:12:07.000 --> 1:12:10.280 So it was the most simplistic handicap of each game 1:12:10.600 --> 1:12:13.360 which people could use because I think that sports betting 1:12:13.400 --> 1:12:16.920 media in general does like an unfortunate job of making 1:12:16.960 --> 1:12:19.080 everyone really overthink a lot of games. And so the 1:12:19.120 --> 1:12:20.920 premise was that it was just going to be a 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:22.680 spot where you could listen every morning and sort of 1:12:22.720 --> 1:12:25.400 focus on the simplest handicap for each game. Love and 1:12:25.400 --> 1:12:28.599 that sort of built into an article series in the podcast. Well, Adam, 1:12:28.640 --> 1:12:30.160 I had the idea that I was going to do 1:12:30.240 --> 1:12:33.080 maybe like a fifteen minute at night recap of like 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:35.160 in game bets and stuff like that now it was 1:12:35.200 --> 1:12:38.280 too lazy to do it, of course, but um, have 1:12:38.439 --> 1:12:41.280 you found like success with that, like you know, getting 1:12:41.320 --> 1:12:44.439 people to you know, do your downloads every day like 1:12:44.479 --> 1:12:47.920 habitually kind of Yeah, they say it just becomes a 1:12:47.960 --> 1:12:50.439 part of their day or routine, and like it's it's 1:12:50.479 --> 1:12:54.080 growing each day and every week. Not at a spectacular rate, 1:12:54.120 --> 1:12:57.360 but the retention from people has been really really good 1:12:57.400 --> 1:12:59.720 over the course of the last three seasons. So it's 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:01.840 kind of become its own little community and it's pretty 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:03.880 neat to see people hang onto it. At What time 1:13:03.920 --> 1:13:07.720 of day is it available? Typically? Um? I posted every 1:13:07.720 --> 1:13:11.080 morning before six am Eastern, so pretty much anyone who's 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:12.680 waking up and on their way to work gets the 1:13:12.680 --> 1:13:15.080 full report every single morning, just to sort of a 1:13:15.080 --> 1:13:17.960 little quick briefing to stay in touch with the markets. 1:13:18.160 --> 1:13:22.559 Just NFL, Just NFL. I'm always thought about doing something 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:24.640 for basketball as well, but I've just always done it 1:13:24.680 --> 1:13:28.760 for an NFL. NFL is king, no matter how good 1:13:28.800 --> 1:13:31.120 the other sports are. It's amazing. I can do the 1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:34.879 best baseball show in the history of mankind. Ceiling of listeners. 1:13:35.120 --> 1:13:36.960 We heard that one time and I wanted to do one. 1:13:37.280 --> 1:13:39.280 What's that and I wanted to do a baseball show 1:13:39.280 --> 1:13:42.840 and we were told, nobody gives, nobody cares. It's really true. 1:13:42.880 --> 1:13:45.479 If you if you whisper the word football, it's soars 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:47.599 over over what you could. Don't know why they don't 1:13:47.600 --> 1:13:50.160 like college basketball because it's an amazing sport. And if 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:54.679 you just watch I mean, it's ridiculous college basketball whatever. 1:13:54.760 --> 1:13:57.320 You can start your college basketball podcast, then I know. 1:13:57.400 --> 1:13:59.160 But then I would have to work and do something, 1:13:59.200 --> 1:14:02.040 and you know, effort. It would be effort. You know, 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:05.160 there is that effort in my life. And I'm on 1:14:05.200 --> 1:14:09.200 the downside. I'm a retired kind of guy. Adam, Adam, 1:14:09.200 --> 1:14:11.479 sure enough, everybody. Adam, thank you so much for doing this. Man. 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:14.400 I appreciate it so much. Keep the good word goes 1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:16.200 a ton of fun. I appreciate it again for the 1:14:16.240 --> 1:14:19.040 opportunity simple handicaps name of the podcast for Mike Palm, 1:14:19.080 --> 1:14:20.960 Thank you, Mikey, Thank you for having us at the 1:14:21.040 --> 1:14:24.200 d Thank you, thank you. Todd wishdev from the Cork 1:14:24.280 --> 1:14:27.840 Attic in Pittsburgh, p A appreciate it. Thank you all 1:14:27.880 --> 1:14:30.519 so much for listening. Good luck with all your Week 1:14:30.560 --> 1:14:33.920 four teen bets in the NFL. Survivor and beyond