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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Michael. Uh huh, jem it's a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: This is the Kevin McHale episode No no, no no. Oh. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is season three, episode eleven Michael that originally aired

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Speaker 2: January thirty first, twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow, lot going on. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The number one song in the country was set Fire

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Speaker 2: to the Rain by Adele.

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Speaker 1: The number one view was The Gray I don't not

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Speaker 1: a real movie.

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Speaker 2: I remember this one. I remember the poster in my head.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it was a real movie.

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Speaker 2: Then some Glee news. On the twenty ninth of January,

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Speaker 2: we went to the SAG Awards because we were nominated

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Speaker 2: for Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble Comedy Series. But we lost.

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Speaker 2: We're sandwiched between two losses.

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Speaker 1: Correct, So the first year we lost, the second year

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Speaker 1: we won, the third year we lost. Is that right?

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Speaker 2: I think we won the first year.

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Speaker 1: No, Kevin, we didn't win. This year. Modern Family won.

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Speaker 2: No, the first year we went. This was not the

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Speaker 2: first year.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you're right. So we won and then

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Speaker 1: we were on the downward spy. Yeah, got it, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Okay, good call, good call. But you look

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Speaker 1: great in these photos. By the way. Oh thanks, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it a lot. The hair, the makeup,

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Speaker 1: Thanks, appreciate it. You know, think about about Hollywood hair

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Speaker 1: But finally, like this is one of them that I

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Speaker 2: Just I agree. Same for me for the outfit of this.

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Speaker 1: we went on so many carbets though. It's like hard

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Speaker 2: So this episode is a monster. There are so many songs,

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Speaker 2: So it's gone so around this time as this episode,

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Speaker 1: Well, of all the people pitching, it's like the two

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Speaker 2: normally do this. Somebody texted Brad, somebody texted Ryan, oh

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00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: my god, saying similar things of like somebody needs to

436
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: get to set because we don't know what's going on.

437
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: No one's spoken to us in hours. We're doing the

438
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: same thing over and over, and normally the last shot

439
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: we would do is steady cam Andrew would get on

440
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: the stage and do all the close ups. Like we

441
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: haven't even done that. We've already been shooting.

442
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: This for eight hours. That's a really long time.

443
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 2: And so they show up, both of them, and they're like,

444
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: what's going on? And we explain it, like okay. Then

445
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: they go talk to Alfonso in the camera department and

446
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 2: they come back and sort of just lay into us

447
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: because like you your job is not to be concerned

448
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: about what the cameras are doing, like your job like

449
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: and also they're like well we heard your dance was

450
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: sloppy and they had to call zach in and that's

451
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: why it's been taking right And maybe it was I

452
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: don't I don't know. And so there was like a

453
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: full breakdown in communication. Oho, and that was the last

454
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Speaker 2: time Ryan ever came to set until the very end

455
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: of the show. Oh he stopped coming to set. Wow,

456
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: because something had broke us. I mean something had broken Yes,

457
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: in so many different levels, Yes, yes, yes, because I

458
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: think he was done with us, like you guys are

459
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: just like shitty and braddy, Yeah, and like how dare

460
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: you complain? And to an a certain extent, I think

461
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: he's right, right, yeah, yeah, wow, And so I think, yeah,

462
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: it was that's what was going on underneath this.

463
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Entire beautiful episode of Michael. Yeah. And to be fair,

464
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: like on a show likely like you know when you said,

465
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: like Elidie Keane came in for the first time early

466
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: in season one and asked like how do we do this?

467
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: And we kind of like tell these structures like this

468
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: is kind of how it's done. I'm sure you've heard,

469
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: like you know, and this is generally our formula because

470
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: it's never been done before. There was a sense of

471
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: ownership over our house that we were like, this is

472
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: how things are done, and not that we implied it

473
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: in that kind of dominant way, but like, this is

474
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: how it's usually done. There's the you know, we had

475
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: the structure of how we do musical numbers, right, so

476
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: when it's not being done like that and things are

477
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: not moving and in the interest of the show, you're like,

478
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: we're not going to make our day, We're gonna have

479
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: to come back into this another day. Like there was

480
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: that kind of mindset that we were in, which agree,

481
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: it's not our job, like that is not our job.

482
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: But in the way that things had been handled previously

483
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: to this with other directors and things like this felt

484
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: kind of normal. I don't know, not justifying it, but

485
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of it.

486
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: Also felt like we've done a lot of like crazy

487
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: complicated numbers, even in this episode, and this was one

488
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: of the more straightforward ones, right this, Yeah, like there

489
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: is a formula to it, and like if something is

490
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: more complicated, we are understanding of that. But again, our

491
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: job isn't. As we were told by a producer at

492
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: some point, our job was to show up on time

493
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: our lines and and that's about it.

494
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: Well, we did a lot more than that.

495
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: Leah said in twenty seventeen and watch What Happens Live

496
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: that this episode was her least favorite to shoot because

497
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: it was really hard.

498
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: Okay, well at tracks ye see even yeah, this is rough.

499
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: It was all of us. But that being said, I

500
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: think this episode is very good.

501
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: There's not a lot that actually happens plot wise because

502
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: it's all about Michael.

503
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Let's take care of some of these plot things real

504
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: quick and then also talk about some of these fun

505
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: facts because the biggest things that happened were and is

506
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: still waiting for Rachel to respond about getting engaged. Quinn

507
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: gets into Yale, which is wild. See you later, Quinn

508
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: like how? And then Kurt and Kirk.

509
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Gets into Yaha is in the finals for Ernada and

510
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Rachel is Rachel Yeah yeah.

511
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: And so then because Rachel feels like she's before she

512
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: found out she was a finalist, she feels like she

513
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: has nothing left but Finn. So then she decides to

514
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: say yes to the marriage proposal, and then she finds

515
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: out she's a finalst.

516
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: And he's like, did you tell Finn?

517
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: And so that's sort of like the story, right minus

518
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: we'll talk more about the Warblers and the Regionals, but Darren,

519
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: but that's not so that doesn't really change the trajectory

520
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: of a lot of these characters exactly.

521
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: So this was originally scheduled to premiere on January twenty fourth,

522
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: but it had been pushed because of the state of

523
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: the Union. I remember that, yeah, I.

524
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: Do too, and Brad had mentioned since before the second

525
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: season ended they were planning and doing a big tribute

526
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: episode that they've been wanted to do since the first season,

527
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: but did not reveal the name of the artist, which

528
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: I think is why some of us were speculating for

529
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: so long about if we were going to do a

530
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Michael episode. And I also think the line where we're

531
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Speaker 2: all sitting in the library and talking about how great

532
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: Michael is and Rachel is talking about how she didn't

533
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: get it, I think that was Ryan's voice, which I

534
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: think was really valuable in this way, because he, I

535
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: don't think was the biggest Michael fan and he didn't

536
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: get it. It was not his thing, and so like

537
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: through Rachel could voice, which I thought was also really

538
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: cool to have, like, not everybody's gonna like the same thing,

539
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: Let's just have a contrariant.

540
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: To talk about it. Yeah.

541
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: But on December sixth, the same day the Hold On

542
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 2: sixteen was airing that featured three Jackson family songs, Ryan

543
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: announced that they had finally obtained the rights to do

544
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: a Michael Jackson tribute.

545
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Episode, filming yan on December twelfth, twenty eleven, and then

546
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: we both of the last two shooting days before the

547
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: vacation ran a couple of the horse passed in the

548
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: night that was bad was one of them, with the

549
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: final night not ending it until three in the morning,

550
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: which makes sense because then you don't have to turn around.

551
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: You don't need the twelve hour turnaround legally or contractually,

552
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: so they could work until we get it done essentially

553
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: because we don't have to come back to work the Wednesday,

554
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: and filming had not yet completed when in the twelfth

555
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: episode with Raheemar and the Spanish teacher began filming on

556
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: January sixth, So we were doing two episodes in parallel,

557
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: and the last final Michael Jackson's number was shown on

558
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: g January thirteenth, So this was over a month. So

559
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: does that mean that this is the longest episode over

560
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or Super over two months?

561
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: No super Bowl? I mean there's and neck. Yeah, okay, okay, well,

562
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean we even started the thirteenth episode and we're

563
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: still shooting this episode. We had moved on two episodes. Yeah,

564
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: the Warblers number I Want You Back was cut for time.

565
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: Why didn't they keep this one and cut Ben? That's

566
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: the question. Did they have to cut keep Ben in

567
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: so they could see Blaine so he could talk about

568
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: his surgery next week before he goes away? Because why

569
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: can't you do that without a song? It was a

570
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: short scene. I think it would have been too short.

571
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 1: It was they really jumped into that. I don't know,

572
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.

573
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: We did all kinds of weird scenes, you know, it

574
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been that weird if.

575
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: Curabout in the next episode about it?

576
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 2: Could you imagine like people just sitting around a hospital

577
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: bed and start singing Ben to you? Like, how if

578
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: in real life, if it was just these kids singing Ben,

579
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: I would be like, you.

580
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Need to go.

581
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to they patches.

582
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well that's the question that I need to

583
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: know about. And the reason why Darren was written off

584
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: getting eye or that Blaine is off getting eye and

585
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: injury was that Darren could go do how to succeed

586
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: in business without really trying on Broadway, booked and busy,

587
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: biked and busy. See, he was allowed to do stuff.

588
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: I just about to say that, just about to say it.

589
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: There were there were double standards left and right. M

590
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: h and it was sometimes a little hard to deal with.

591
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

592
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: And that has nothing to do with, honestly, the people

593
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: who were getting allowed to do things, because that's not

594
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: on them. They got to do this and they approval anyway,

595
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: I know. Although in the end of the episode, Will

596
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: state that they would do Michael Jackson songs at Regional's.

597
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: Obviously by the end of the episode they're like, we're

598
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 2: not going to do Michael. And this is the last episode,

599
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: last tribute episode with Ryan as the official writer on

600
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: the script.

601
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: Which makes sense.

602
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: Also, Kurt was seen in will Spanish class in this episode,

603
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: but Kurt takes French and girl Jesus, he was taking French, so.

604
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: I will say, I take it back though, because I

605
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: was allowed to go do Gaga's music video, So I

606
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: take it. I take that back. That's rude. She was

607
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: allowed to go do that. It wasn't a long run,

608
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: but it was like two days.

609
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: Off, but Lady Gaga personally called Ryan Murphy though.

610
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: Well, that's the only way I was to do it.

611
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: You're right, there's no way I would have been like, hey, Ryan,

612
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: can I do it in a Lady Gaga music video

613
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: and him be like yeah, Jenna, sure, you're actually like

614
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: a crazy person, but go ahead, go on.

615
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. You literally had to have Gaga

616
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: personally called to get your approval to get you to

617
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: do something. But also I get it's not normal to

618
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: be able to do other jobs while you're doing your.

619
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: Job, but it's also yeah, it's just not what happens.

620
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Speaker 1: But because the show was so massive and we were

621
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: so many people that everybody wanted to do something and anyway, okay.

622
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had There was every single summer

623
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: for the first like four years, there was a movie

624
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: that I was like booked to do but couldn't end

625
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: up doing because the schedule ended up.

626
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: A tour and like yeah, okay, okay, oh wait did

627
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: we talk about your performance and scream? Okay. So this

628
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: inspired several reviewers to write of their regret that Kevin

629
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: could not dance more often on the show. Holley Lou

630
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: Other reviewers called him a sorely underused Glee resource. I've

631
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: heard that before, and called the number the fast dance

632
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: moment of the episode. Agreed. Another reviewer said this number

633
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: is evidence of already only a junior. There is life

634
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: in directions after McKinley's current seniors graduates, and they are correct,

635
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: there is life after here. We are, okay, So let's

636
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: talk about the Warblers, Kevin, because that's mainly the.

637
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: Because we're back, they're back in the glee club, and

638
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: so we decide that we're going to do Michael Jackson

639
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: and then you know, I want to be starting. Something

640
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: happens and we all get to like where those different

641
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: looks of Michael, which was fun.

642
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: Can you rate each number done for this? Like? How? How? What?

643
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: What you would give it each? No, A, B, C D.

644
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: I'd give this number a B. Okay, just curious. I

645
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: don't know which ones you're going to say are well

646
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: done and not?

647
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: Maybe plus maybe I think it's fine. It was very

648
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: glee was it was?

649
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like that we can pay a.

650
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: Monster all the different looks and things like that, and

651
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: the dancing in the hallway was nice.

652
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that was good. That's really fun.

653
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: And I also think over time too, if you look,

654
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 2: shooting dance is really hard, and Alfonso is such an

655
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: incredible cinematographer, like his vision for things, and I think

656
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: with each episode he gets better and better and more

657
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: creative with shooting dance, and so I think a lot

658
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: of these things are really beautifully done.

659
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: Great.

660
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: There's a great scene in the line of Bean which

661
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: I loved, where Sebastian shows up. It's like he's always here.

662
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: It's very good. And come to find out, yeah, Blaine

663
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: has given up the secret to Sebastian, who's now the captain.

664
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: Somehow of the Warblers that we do directions were planning

665
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: on doing Michael Jackson. So Warblars are going to do

666
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson and so starts all this feud and we

667
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: get our first Santana and Sebastian fight, and this is

668
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: wildly sanely inappropriate. And also Santana looks like she she

669
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: doesn't lose. No one can keep up with her, and

670
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: she's taken aback.

671
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Yes, which is so yes, she's on her match.

672
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: Like the ease at which Sebastian can just throw out

673
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: racist comments is pretty incredible.

674
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so we decided, so we're going to

675
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: do we can't do my goal at regionals. Now, we

676
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: can't do it because Warburgs are going to do it.

677
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: But but Will's brilliant assignment for the week is what

678
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: would Michael Jackson wonder? Where he got that idea?

679
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: And I also like, instead of worrying about the set

680
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: list for Regionals, I want to talk about getting you

681
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: in the right headspace for you. It was like, no,

682
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: we should be worrying about the set list. Maybe he

683
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: should be worrying about the set list for once. We're

684
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: too busy working on his proposal to Emma. Oh god,

685
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: a lot of proposals.

686
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: Okay. Blaine's idea though, is to take to the streets

687
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: and off to the Fox Parking Paramount parking lot we go.

688
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: We shot this in the middle of the night. We

689
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: didn't have any choreography for it. Well, we did have choreography,

690
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: we just didn't know it. So Zach and Brooke, who

691
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: did this whole episode like they did every other episode,

692
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: had to do an enormous amount of Michael Jackson number

693
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: and we knew.

694
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: That, Like, because we were so busy shooting, you couldn't

695
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: get all of us into rehearsal at the same time.

696
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: So some of us knew different parts of this going

697
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: into it, but we didn't know where it was going

698
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: to be staged, how it was going to be used.

699
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: Right until some of the people didn't know any of it.

700
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: And so we got in there right the sun was

701
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: still up, right. We got in there post lunch, I

702
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: believe we had a late lunch. Was this This was

703
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: the last number we shot I think before Christmas Break.

704
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: That's correct, because then I came back Christmas Break for

705
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: one scene and so yes, this was the last number

706
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: and this was the one that we were into three am,

707
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: I think. And uh, ironically, this looks like very Sharks

708
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: and Jets west Side Story esque, which you know Grant

709
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: was obviously a West Side Story recently, and it's very

710
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: like I liked it.

711
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: I remember, I liked this much more than I remember.

712
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: It actually looks like I don't.

713
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: What do you give this one? I give this one

714
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: an A minus? Right, Well, okay, I think it's good.

715
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, yeah, yeah. I like how it

716
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: does that job.

717
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: And I think it's being able to take myself away from.

718
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Like it.

719
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, shit storm. Objectively, I think it's pretty good.

720
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: And that was Grant's first slushy throw into Blaine's face,

721
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: which was meant for Kurt but had rock salt in it,

722
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: which we'll find out later. Well.

723
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, so we're all talking about Blaine is

724
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 2: in the hospital, has to get surgery. Everyone's pissed off,

725
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: and then Will is like, we don't I don't condone violence,

726
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: we can't retaliate. Blah, blue blue, blue, blue.

727
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: Blue, you know, Artie, He says something correct this time

728
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: he does already gets fired up and gets really mad.

729
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: He did filming this really, I love this scene for you.

730
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: I felt so awkward.

731
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think there's something about like filming

732
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: it where the the tension has to rise enough for

733
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 2: like already.

734
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: To pop off like that. Oh I see.

735
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: And so it always felt like I was trying to

736
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: make it happen, and I think it was also made

737
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: me just my possible lack of skill at the time,

738
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: where it didn't feel right, nothing felt right, and then

739
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: it felt like I oun't know where I'm just like

740
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: blowing up, and then everybody's quiet, and I felt really

741
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: awkward for some reason being in front of all of you,

742
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: because like you and I didn't have moments like this

743
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: really yeah, So I wasn't used to it, and then

744
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: here I am. I'm like, is this right? Is this

745
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: what Aardie would say?

746
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: Is this right? Like?

747
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: Am I doing this correct? I didn't feel like I

748
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: was meeting the moment as well.

749
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: As I wanted to. You did, and it came out great.

750
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: I've got it where it really worked and it's a

751
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: really good segue into the best number of the episode,

752
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: Scream Budget another dream moment for Ardie. Did you know

753
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: that you were gonna dance in this episode or when

754
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: did you find out?

755
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: No, And we did not pitch scream. I did not

756
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: pitch me dancing for the record.

757
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: Cool but Ryan Mustard and Ryan knows how much you

758
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: love Michael too, so he loved to do that for people.

759
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: He loved to give people what they want, the people

760
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: they want.

761
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: It was really I felt it felt really special to

762
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: be able to do that with Harry. It was also

763
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: terrifying because then I was gonna have to dance next

764
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: to Harry, like, watch Harry, That's how it's supposed to look. No,

765
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm literally leaning over it because I'm falling.

766
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you did great. But it was so

767
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: much fun.

768
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: I mean, we were shooting that all day on one

769
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: of our smaller stages and people kept coming in to watch,

770
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: and it was just a blast, Like I hadn't made

771
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 2: a proper music video since my old boy band days.

772
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what it was that daylight? Tell me about it.

773
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: It felt just like that. It was just the music video.

774
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: And how many rooms did you guys shooting because there

775
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: were three different It looked like there were three different sets, right,

776
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: like the big room, the tunnel, and then there's one

777
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: other one like the walkway or whatever was it? Were

778
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: they different or did they reset it?

779
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: The walk The catwalk was in the same place as

780
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: like the bigger room. They just put in the catwalk.

781
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: And then yeah, that tunnel looking thing with the door

782
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: coming up, that was obviously one. And then there was

783
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: a little setup of us like we were holding our

784
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: headphones and like screaming. That was the first thing we

785
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: did that day. And then there was a gigantic green

786
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: screen where we did like us floating, and we did

787
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: all the stuff of us where they placed us on

788
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: a ceiling and stuff like that. We did all that

789
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 2: chance was.

790
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: Did you were you in harnesses? Were you floating?

791
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: No? We were laying down basically on this on a

792
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: box or something a box.

793
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, shot from above. I was like, did they break

794
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: in harnesses because that looked awesome? Yeah, I couldn't.

795
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: I was actually very worried about how all the CG

796
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: was going to look because it's a TV show, Like,

797
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 2: I mean, the show's already expensive. How much can they

798
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: really time and money can they dedicate to this? But

799
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: we also because of the Michael Jackson estate, couldn't do

800
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: certain things. We had to stay below a certain percentage

801
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: of matching like shot for shot or doing the same

802
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: movements making the song sound the same. So things legally

803
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: had to be different enough. And I remember us talking

804
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: about it because there were obviously things in the actual

805
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: music video that Harry and I had talked about doing

806
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: in it, and so we just sort of like just

807
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: a moment where I'm sitting sort of like meditating ish

808
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: or it's not exactly the same. So I was like,

809
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: maybe I can get away with this if I change

810
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: how I'm sitting a little bit, and just like threw

811
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: it in hoping things like that would make it in

812
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: m But I love I was very very.

813
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: Proud of that it looks awesome it looks really really cool.

814
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: It's my favorite number of that episode and for multiple reasons.

815
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: But I was excited for you to do another dance

816
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: number and also the two of you. It's just so

817
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: great and it's like it's different. It's right, it's actually

818
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: a music video versus very separate. Yeah, but it's it

819
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: totally worked, and it actually gave like the episode some

820
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: dynamic and like, really you kind of rabbed me up

821
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: a little bit for the rest of it. I was like, Okay,

822
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: here we go, so I do.

823
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: Personally, I was very excited to see what we're going

824
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: to be wearing because in the actual music video they

825
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: have those crazy like puffy pointy shirts on and things I.

826
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: Know, and they did a really great jobs, very cool.

827
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: Were they like plastic here like silicon and puffs?

828
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 2: No, they were.

829
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: I believe it was soft.

830
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: It was almost like, yeah, it was like those nineties

831
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: things that, like you were popular for a little bit.

832
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: Shoulder path.

833
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: No, Like I don't know how to explain it. It's

834
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: almost like soundproofing material.

835
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: But yes, yes, what you're talking about.

836
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Yes, And I loved like them making Harry look like

837
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: Janet a little bit like this in the eyeliners.

838
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: It's so good eyeshadow. You guys like, dope, great child.

839
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: I loved it. It was very great job. You should

840
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: be very proud of that. I am proud of that one. Good.

841
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: I give that one an A plus. I do too.

842
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: And then Quinn gets into you.

843
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Quin gets into Yale. I love this scene though, the

844
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 2: scene between Rachel and Quinn when Rachel asked for advice

845
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Diana's best work. Love it.

846
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good and it's kind of true. Like

847
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: watching this back now, you're like, girl, you guys are eighteen,

848
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: not even eighteen years old. It's but it's so right,

849
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: Like you think the person you're within high school and

850
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: some people are in high school, like that's it. They're

851
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: the one like you think your life's sober after high school,

852
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: whereas Quinn was actually the voice for reason being, like

853
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: you have so much ahead, like look to it because

854
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: kids need to hear that a little bit, Like everything

855
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: feels like the end of the world in high school.

856
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: And so I just I wish I had kind of

857
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: more perspective on what was to come versus like how

858
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: much how much energy I put into everything there? And

859
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: that's not like a bad thing, right, but like you,

860
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: just the stakes are so high. The stakes are just so.

861
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: High, I thought her after she does her number, which

862
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: I think was also so sweet, I mean, beautiful, great.

863
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: I her speech made me feel things because it did

864
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: give me that whole perspective of when you're in high school.

865
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: It's the first time I've actually really felt that, like

866
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: graduation is coming and when you're in high school. All

867
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: these things I've been made such a big deal on

868
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: the show, all these high school things, is how high

869
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: school feels a lot of the time. And to be

870
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: able to put that perspective, We're like, you guys are

871
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: so young, and your whole life hasn't life hasn't even

872
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: started yet, and you already feel like you've.

873
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: Lived it right, right, right, It's so true. It's so true. Yeah.

874
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: So I really liked like, in between all these crazy

875
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: numbers and the spectacle of the episode, you have some

876
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: quinn wisdom.

877
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: It was very nice and grounding, I mean, and granted,

878
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: she did have a baby already, so that's right, she's

879
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: lived the worldly one. Oh god, Okay, so Quinn's beautiful

880
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: number and then human Ature, which, oh my goodness, how

881
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: cute are they? Why do they have so much chemistry,

882
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: I know, and like just the both of them on

883
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: that song. I love that song. It's one of my

884
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: favorite next songs. And then the two of them doing

885
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: it with the guitar. It was just a perfect harmony

886
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: of all the things lining at once. It was really

887
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: really well done.

888
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: And that was also that number was exactly what things

889
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: like Harry and I had talked about right right right

890
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: or it is a different enough version, you're not trying

891
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: to be Michael, and it fits them so well, and

892
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: it was just really beautiful. And this sounds like on

893
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: that song.

894
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: She's ss of frequent all things, but like to hear

895
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: her singer. Michael's song was really.

896
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: And just those little runs that she's adding and like what, oh, bud.

897
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: Out of here?

898
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: And they sound so nice together because their tones are

899
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: so different. Butda man, I loved it. And then Amberg

900
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: door Mercedes cheets on her. Man she does, but I'm

901
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: not even mad at it. Oh no, we don't, ye know,

902
00:50:54,160 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: sorry on the show. We need our Sam and saies together.

903
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: It's very cute. I want to say. I was very

904
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: happy to see some more Michael Mallley, some Burton Kurt.

905
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 2: That's sweet Kurt, getting his acceptance or acceptance run.

906
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, they get me every time. They get

907
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: me every time.

908
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 2: The Kurt had a lot of like fiery funny stuff

909
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: this episode that seen with Curt and Santana, and Kurt's

910
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: like plotting all the way He's going to take revenge

911
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: on Sebastian, and Satana's the voice of reason for once.

912
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: She's like, I just.

913
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Like I got to make it out of here, and

914
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: you can't get in trouble. So she plots and has

915
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: one of the most iconic performances in Glee her history.

916
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: It's funny to hear Grant talk about it as one

917
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: of the least rehearse scenes that they've ever done, and

918
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: I get what he's saying behind it, because like I

919
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: know those numbers that but that's all that. Then that's

920
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: like a testament to Nya and Grant and the talents

921
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: they are that we're given kind of this like playing

922
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: field and this map to like go like just cat

923
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: and house. It get closer and closer until the end

924
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: and then basically like they had like free rein And

925
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: I like those numbers because if you know your character

926
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: well enough, you know you want like you just let

927
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: people go and the two of them obviously are you

928
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: need no direction? And and then like the two cellos

929
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: also watching them go literally like fiercely go at each other.

930
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: It was so cool. It was such a great number.

931
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: I loved NYA starting like right where they are and

932
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: it was sort of like come and get me. And

933
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: then those I thought that the simple things like how

934
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: that room looked, the chairs looking how that you know,

935
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 2: how they were organized in a circle. It just looked

936
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: so beautiful and it was different than what we would

937
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 2: normally see, which is also just refreshing.

938
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: Nice.

939
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, her showing up in that like Fedora and stuff

940
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: is crazy but hilarious. And kudos to Andrew Mitchell for

941
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: that one. Yes, the steady cam creator those shares, and

942
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: then probably Corey behind him moving the chairs her crews amazing.

943
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: You slipped over bed. Just wait, you have to you

944
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: have to rate smooth criminal a rate human nature A minus. Yeah. Okay,

945
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: and then that happens and we've already covered it. Rate

946
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: it f F not an Asian f F. Oh and

947
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: never you can say goodbye.

948
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd give that B plus.

949
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I give it B plus plus. Yeah, it's really sweet. Yeah,

950
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: I think it's sweet. I think it's sweet. We just

951
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: can't give everything in a uh being so gentle.

952
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: Oh, so Rachel and Finn stay back, right, everyone's going

953
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: to like confront the war Yeah, the Warblers, and Finn like,

954
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: we'll meet you there. I have a full number plan,

955
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 2: don't worry about it, and launches into I just can't

956
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: stop loving you. By the way, I think they both

957
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: sound incredible.

958
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

959
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: I didn't really remember this number that well, probably because.

960
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: We weren't there. I think they sound great. I'm like,

961
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: I could I could have done about this one.

962
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: I do think it fit well.

963
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: They needed it for the storyline, but.

964
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: Their storyline really well, I don't know. I know.

965
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I think the thing was, it felt

966
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: like there were all these really cool numbers that we

967
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: had never seen done before. We saw Smooth Criminal in

968
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: a different you know, like with the circle, you know

969
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: kind of cat and house thing. We saw your Guys'

970
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: music video. We saw Sam with the guitar and Mercedes.

971
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: We you don't see a lot and so it felt

972
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: a little to Rachel and Finn asque to me that

973
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: was like, could have done something else. But I'll say

974
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: it was a great number and it moved a plot along,

975
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: so like, you know, I'm not gonna yeah you want it.

976
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: But an acting number they had they had to get brooken,

977
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: Zacha break.

978
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: It's true, and they was sweet. They they were just

979
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: very sweet and it was very emotional. What do you

980
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: get it? What do you rate this? I give this

981
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: like a B minus.

982
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree. Okay, but they sound very good,

983
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: very good. And I like hearing Leah up there, you know,

984
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: just popping and doing those super high notes real quick.

985
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like, it's very satisfying. What's the song she

986
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: does in Journey when they do Faithfully? Oh my god,

987
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: she sounds good up there. Probably it is not easy,

988
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: but no, she sounds very good there. Okay, So Rachel

989
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: says yes, and they're going to get wild engaged. They

990
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: are engaged, and then you have black and white, which we.

991
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: I would just like the publicly state. I also don't

992
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: think I should have done the wrap.

993
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: There was nobody else to do it, Kevin, nobody else

994
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: to do.

995
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: It seeing me saying the line, or have somebody else

996
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: do I'm not going to spend my life being a color.

997
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: Mmm mmm that doesn't sit right with me.

998
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Mmm.

999
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: Well there was this. It was a really my biggest

1000
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: concern for the Michael episode was did we have the

1001
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: right people for the job?

1002
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: Right? I get that, I get that, do you know

1003
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? Yeah yeah, But that's why the

1004
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: different versions. How so you had to do the different versions?

1005
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1006
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was the impetus of like, if we're

1007
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: going to just like cut and paste here.

1008
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work.

1009
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. Yeah, because none of us can sing.

1010
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: Like that, right, Like, well nobody can.

1011
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: Well anybody's the only one who I think had like

1012
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: the full capability of like range and pocket to sing

1013
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: it straight up Michael song obviously, But the rest of us.

1014
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: You have it. You have it, Kevin, you have it,

1015
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: you have it.

1016
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: You can fake it, okay, oh my god. But I

1017
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: do have to say the memes that have come out

1018
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: of us, our faces Michael warping into each other are great.

1019
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: Terrifying, Yeah, very terrifying. What would you rate this number

1020
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: black and only b mm hmm. It's fine, And we did,

1021
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: we take the higher road, and we let Sebastian know

1022
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: that we have them on tape, but we don't. You know,

1023
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: Santa Stana had more work under her boob and you

1024
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: know it didn't. We're not going to use it and

1025
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: we're not going to do my goal and we're not

1026
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: going to tell on him because we want to play.

1027
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: We want a fair game. So I don't agree with that.

1028
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: But no, see why, I see.

1029
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: Why the bigger when they go low, we go low.

1030
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: Stop it. Cut it out. Sebastian is a terrible person.

1031
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: Cut it out.

1032
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: He did do terrible things, and I don't think that

1033
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: it was right. Let's do some tardy jakes cringe moments.

1034
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: Sebastian's comments to Santana at the top of this episode,

1035
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: We're alarming.

1036
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that, coupled with I just I

1037
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: feel like when students get injured at the school, like

1038
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: I was getting physically harassed for years, it seems like,

1039
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it's everybody else is

1040
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: getting in trouble when or not getting like it was

1041
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: felt like it was not. There's not an equal scale here.

1042
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: Well, welcome to Glee. Yeah, best and smooth scream. Yeah

1043
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: that's right, song scream and smooth I.

1044
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: Would say smooth criminal. But I am also partial to

1045
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: human nature.

1046
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 3: I love oh close third Close thirds by prop The

1047
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: entire Scream set totally the underboob tape recorder from radio.

1048
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: It's very good, very funny. Best line so that scene where.

1049
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: Santana and Kurt are talking about how then get revenge,

1050
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: and Santana goes, well, today's youre lucky day because Auntie

1051
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: Snacks just arrived on the Bitchdown Express. Now, my suggestion

1052
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: is that we drag him bounding gag to a tattoo

1053
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: parlor for a tramp stamp that reads tips appreciated or

1054
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: congratulations you're my one thousand customer. Funny, so funny, so good.

1055
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: There was a lot of good, like random quotes in

1056
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: this episode, Yes, there were.

1057
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: Kurt had some good ones. Uh live here, god, yeah,

1058
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: can we talk about that.

1059
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: Kurt does say I take a lot of crap from

1060
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: a lot of people, but I refuse to take it

1061
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: from Sebastian the criminal Chipmunk.

1062
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: Stop. That's funny, poor Grant. I know he really got it.

1063
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean we all don't. But yeah, it's a right

1064
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: of passage.

1065
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: It is.

1066
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: You didn't really doglee until they made fun of you

1067
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: for real.

1068
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: Truth?

1069
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, performance, Kevin McCain, I don't know. Yes, Kevin, take it.

1070
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: You were an episode you sang on almost every song.

1071
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: Okay, just take it.

1072
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: It was great. Great job in this episode. Thank you

1073
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: very much. It's like pulling teeth with you. I know.

1074
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: So shit. We found on the TikTok her name is

1075
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: Demi DeVito.

1076
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's very good.

1077
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: Did an entire scene basically playing a range of characters

1078
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: from like Rachel, Will, Emma, Quinn, Mercedes Finn with current

1079
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: songs and how they'd be used in the show. And

1080
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: it is so like the start of the scene with

1081
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 2: the song. It is so accurate. So you can if

1082
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: you watch it, you can visualize the entire scene. You

1083
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: know exactly how right she is. Very good, so accurate,

1084
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Speaker 2: very good. Someone said, who's going to tell me Glee

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Speaker 2: had a new season? Exactly? It does make me jealous,

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Speaker 2: so because well, Will doing water is horrifying and absolutely

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Speaker 2: what would have happened?

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Speaker 1: But no, that's exactly it's like ice ice baby. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like what.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I just see this is brilliant. Thanks for people

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Speaker 2: for being creative and funny and tagging us in these things, because.

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Speaker 1: What what so good? No, these are really really good,

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Speaker 1: so good. Come back next week because we have a

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Speaker 1: very special guest with us to do a recap. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we would have guessed to recap with us yet.

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Speaker 1: We haven't asked one cheees with us, and she's going

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Speaker 1: to recap the Spanish teacher. So come back and let's

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Speaker 1: talk all things Ricky Martin, because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear about your experience on this episode.

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Speaker 2: Hot hot, hot hot, Jenna, thanks for opening up about

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Speaker 2: this time in.

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Speaker 1: Your life, my dark times of Glee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry that we had to watch this episode.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. I come I come out of a hole,

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Speaker 1: and I come out better, bigger, and better than ever.

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Speaker 2: So don't want to have a question. Yeah, now, we

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Speaker 2: seven people acted out, they got episodes.

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Speaker 4: Did you get an episode out of this? Stay tuned

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Speaker 4: in a few short episodes. Tina's going to sing a

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Speaker 4: big Seleen Dion song. She's gonna have a whole episode

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Speaker 4: where she falls in a sout. It is glorious. So

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Speaker 4: let me tell you act out get an episode.

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Speaker 2: The squeaky wheel, Jenna, that was the thing. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know the phrase, the squeaky wheel. What does it get

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Speaker 2: the oil or whatever? Yeah, something like that until this,

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Speaker 2: until I worked on Glee. Because oh yeah, the bad

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Speaker 2: behavior was rewarded.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but we've learned and we've grown.

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Speaker 1: We have.

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Speaker 2: But Ryan talked about this, you know, like we we

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Speaker 2: all would have done things differently. We were all trying

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Speaker 2: to figure it out on every level.

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Speaker 1: It's so true. It is really so true. There's no

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Speaker 1: really nobody to blame. It was just a learning, a

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Speaker 1: collective learning effort that again I wish I hadn't gone

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Speaker 1: through it. Just be like I wish I didn't have

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Speaker 1: to go through it, but I'm okay, you got a

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Speaker 1: song out of it. I just like, how's it going

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Speaker 1: over there?

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Speaker 2: You're also not the first person to get punished and

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Speaker 2: get PTO, and I started to lose my mind. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: well should I.

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Speaker 1: Do as well as well? There was a point though,

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Speaker 1: where you're like, am I gonna be back? Are they

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Speaker 1: gonna bring me back? Yeah? Gary, Okay, well come back

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Speaker 1: next week and we'll find out if change it comes back.

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Speaker 2: And that's what you really missed. Thanks for listening and

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Speaker 2: follow us on Instagram at and that's what you really

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Speaker 2: miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and

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Speaker 2: leave us five stars.

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Speaker 1: See you next time.