WEBVTT - Timberwolves/Lakers Postgame Spaces

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<v Speaker 1>M m all right. Welcome to the State of the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Dash Radio. Thank you guys so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming to hang out on a Sunday consecutive Laker wins,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something that has happened only six times this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna need you guys to bear with me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I'm currently in my truck hurdling on the

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<v Speaker 1>road down towards Tucson from a weekend of skiing with

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and some friends up in Flagstaff. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was fortunately able to catch the game and its entirety. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little more optimistic than most, but we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into that rog. How you doing, buddy, how's your weekend been.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good, It's good. I appreciate you know you coming

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<v Speaker 1>for me and Jason Maple is coming on on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it did get cut short. I saw there with

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<v Speaker 1>some technical difficulties. But yeah, man, two days of partying, dancing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and to music and stuff will get you exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm back though, ready to talk to some Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>basketball here. Yeah, you do sound like you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>truck or some pink so I was gonna let you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear some background noise there. Okay, I'll do I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do the best I can to keep when I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking for that effect. Um, knew, your buddy, It's good

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<v Speaker 1>to have you back. So again, I'm I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>more optimistic than most. You know, Minnesota's young and athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>and they played really good defense tonight, playoff style defense

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<v Speaker 1>with really a lot of like adjustments that have been

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<v Speaker 1>made from previous matchups between these two teams. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of packing the paint, ignoring Russell Westbrook, putting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure on Lebron both on the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and off the ball. I thought that was a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of why his shot attempts were down, um relative

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<v Speaker 1>to the way he's been shooting the ball throughout the game,

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<v Speaker 1>making Lebron into a passer, and little stretches of impressive

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<v Speaker 1>shot making from Minnesota at various points in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, to get a bad game out of

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<v Speaker 1>Russ like a just horrendous, terrific, horrible I saw of

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<v Speaker 1>a basketball game from Russell westbrooken to get a win

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<v Speaker 1>with no Anthony Davis, I'm gonna go positive here. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you feeling right now? Yeah, I do feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more positive. I think, you know, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>in any position to be picky about wins right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a team that's under five, a game under five

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<v Speaker 1>or something, no position to be picky. Man, A win

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<v Speaker 1>is a win. We're starting to get guys back at least.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the wing rotation is a lot better. I

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<v Speaker 1>would still like to see Dwight Howard play the backup

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<v Speaker 1>center role, especially with a guy like nas Ree just

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<v Speaker 1>killing us. I would like the rotation to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little less rigid, but again that's kind of nitpicking. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're going to the small ball thing

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<v Speaker 1>and going to try to make it work. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Russell was really bad in the first half. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better than the second half. You have five three

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<v Speaker 1>point attempts in the first half, it was over five,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take one in the second half. Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>only two turn I think he had nine turnovers on

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<v Speaker 1>the game or something, but I think only like two

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<v Speaker 1>or three were in the second half. So he did

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<v Speaker 1>pick his spot a little bit better. And Lebron just

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<v Speaker 1>continues to be incredible. He didn't score thirty tonight, ending

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<v Speaker 1>his seventh straight I believe it, seven straight thirty point games. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He ended that street tonight, finishing I think with twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six or something. But he was incredible in the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>on defense as well. He looked tired to uh just

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<v Speaker 1>be having to cover all that ground at the five,

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<v Speaker 1>but had a lot of strip balls away. And then

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<v Speaker 1>tonight lake Mont Carmelo. We'll get into it, but those

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<v Speaker 1>guys kind of saved us. Every Bradley as well, who

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<v Speaker 1>I think we could talk about who's been kind of consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been consistent, um, a little bit low key, but

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<v Speaker 1>has been consistently playing well. So that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought from tonight. Man, two straight wins, uh, two

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<v Speaker 1>teams that aren't very good right Portland I think is

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<v Speaker 1>on a slide, even though they have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>players back. And then tonight Minnesota obviously missing call Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Towns and D'Angelo Russell. But now you get a win.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the So ESPN came out with the spread

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<v Speaker 1>today the Lakers were eight points favorites tonight, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was insanity, even with the people that even with

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<v Speaker 1>the people that Minnesota was getting back. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was a good win. Man, we can we

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of pick pick up on this one, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least it's something to build off. T straight wins

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<v Speaker 1>is at least something to kind of get the thing

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<v Speaker 1>rolling here because we're getting guys bad again. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>ever take a game at face value. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to look at it from the surface and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Anthony Towns didn't play. You know, D'Angel Russell didn't play. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big athletic basketball team that has seen

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers play a couple of times this year. That

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<v Speaker 1>has made into adjustments. Like I said, the game resembled

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff game in a lot of ways. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>playoff basketball feels like when they take away everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do and force you to adapt. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's important because you know, we look at these games recently,

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<v Speaker 1>like beating the heck out of Portland's two nights ago

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<v Speaker 1>or winning that game in Houston, like that game important,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not real basketball. Did you see some of the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive breakdowns that Portland was having in that game. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what playoff defenses look like. So as much, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were awful. So as much as it feels good,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as it's exciting and fun to watch, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching Lebron dunk on everybody, and yeah, that's fun

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<v Speaker 1>and that's cool, but that doesn't translate to what they

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<v Speaker 1>need in order to succeed when they get to the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season, when they're playing against playoff quality

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<v Speaker 1>teams time after time, when they can make adjustments. And

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw tonight was a playoff type of defensive strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, I know that seems laughable to say about

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<v Speaker 1>that specific team, but watch the games. If you watch

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<v Speaker 1>the games and you see what they're doing, the type

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<v Speaker 1>of athletes they have on the floor, the way their

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<v Speaker 1>help defense was set up, the way they were packing

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<v Speaker 1>the paint, that's what playoff basketball looks like. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what happens in situations like that, You have to adapt,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, you know, some guys didn't do a

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<v Speaker 1>good job of that, Like Russ really struggled with it tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You could tell he just didn't really understand when he

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<v Speaker 1>would get into the paint what to do because they

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<v Speaker 1>were taking away his easy reads. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as the game progressed, you saw Lebron kind of make adjustments,

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<v Speaker 1>right because they're at the end of the game, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in that fourth quarter, he was magnificent defensively, and he

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<v Speaker 1>saw that even though Lebron wasn't able to score at

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<v Speaker 1>the rate that he's been scoring in recent weeks, he

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<v Speaker 1>impacted the game all over the floor as a defensive player.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, yeah, I don't know if you noticed this too.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of hockey assists in that fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>plays where he would generate an advantage, collapse the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>kick out to a guy, but because Minnesota was so

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<v Speaker 1>good in their health rotation, they would take away that

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<v Speaker 1>first option with the rotation. With the rotation, but there'd

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<v Speaker 1>be swing swing or cutter here, cutter there, and they

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<v Speaker 1>get a really good shot. And that, to me is

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of stuff that does translate to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>And in games like that against teams that are really

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<v Speaker 1>really good in their health defense and against teams that

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<v Speaker 1>take away what you like to do easily, that's more

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<v Speaker 1>supreme talent becomes such a factor, and that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>need guys like Anthony Davis on the floor with you

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<v Speaker 1>with Lebron to succeed in that environment. But I could

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<v Speaker 1>take this another direction, and this is where I get

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with Russ because one of the things I fear

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<v Speaker 1>with Russ is against teams that do this to him,

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<v Speaker 1>completely ignore him off the ball and then pack the

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<v Speaker 1>paint on him when he has the ball and try

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<v Speaker 1>to turn him into a jump shooter. It could look

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<v Speaker 1>like this a lot in that setting, and that concerns

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<v Speaker 1>me and I'd like to see you know, he used

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<v Speaker 1>to watch some Avery Bradley tape and look at the

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<v Speaker 1>way that Avery Bradley is stayed a threat even when

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<v Speaker 1>he's not at the three point line. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I look at it. There's pros and cons, and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it and you say, Okay, they solved

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<v Speaker 1>the puzzle. Lebron played great, but I'm concerned about the

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<v Speaker 1>rust thing, and I'm I'm tonight. It was just another

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<v Speaker 1>example of how that fit gets clunky when you play

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<v Speaker 1>against teams that take away all of the easy things

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<v Speaker 1>that you like to do on the basketball court. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Russ definitely struggled, and again I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>played a lot better um in the second half than

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<v Speaker 1>that first half. Rust to me, though, what he does

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<v Speaker 1>is he likes to pass to areas right instead of players,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of what he does. He'll drive and

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<v Speaker 1>like look for the corner, look for the wing or

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<v Speaker 1>look for the top of the key, and when players

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<v Speaker 1>aren't there, that's when he gets in trouble. Right, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets in the air and he'll do passively like what

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<v Speaker 1>are you looking for? But I think that's where he's

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<v Speaker 1>going for And he's always going like a step faster

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<v Speaker 1>than I think what his body and his mind aren't

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<v Speaker 1>like connected in a way where he's going faster than

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<v Speaker 1>his mind lots to go, where his mind is going

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<v Speaker 1>faster than his body wants to go, and he's in

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<v Speaker 1>transition and players aren't catching up with him. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>second half, I thought it was a lot better. Was

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<v Speaker 1>seeing some stuff kind of progress now where he's become

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<v Speaker 1>a screener for for Lebron, or he's really the only

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<v Speaker 1>non shooter because since we've gone small full time, he's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the only non shooter on the floor, And

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<v Speaker 1>I like that th HD now comes in for him

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<v Speaker 1>as the first sub where again now th h T

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<v Speaker 1>is the only non shooter on the floor. But yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>then I've always said with with Russ and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that we've talked about all season and we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to talk about, like this is just

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<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna get when you up his ships like this,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have a d now off the floor, which

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<v Speaker 1>means he's the full second time offensive possession guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>taking up all these possessions, and your turnovers are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go up. Nine turnovers, of course is way too much,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, you're gonna put the ball in his hands

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<v Speaker 1>this much like that's what you're gonna get. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have him have super high turnover games. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great that they were able to win in a

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<v Speaker 1>game where he couldn't hit a shot at all, again

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<v Speaker 1>over five from three but didn't take one in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. Those mid range full ups are what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit a few of them him get a big one,

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<v Speaker 1>lad to get an an one and uh to me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't temper down Russ. You just lower his uses

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<v Speaker 1>and possessions. And you talked about that's where Anthony Davis

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<v Speaker 1>comes in. And I think that second unit is super

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<v Speaker 1>interesting too. We have like Russ Reeves, a Resa Mellow

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<v Speaker 1>and THHT and I think a d can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>subb in for Mellow or th HT whoever. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's an interesting second unit. There Reeves and Reeves

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<v Speaker 1>and a reason. I like that combination. But yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just what you're gonna get with Russ right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have up and down games. I think he's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, starting to find his rhythm a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still getting into the basket a ton, even though

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<v Speaker 1>even if he's not finishing all that well and he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the line. He hit his free throws tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>To turnovers were too much, but again only like I

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<v Speaker 1>think two or three turnovers in the second half really

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<v Speaker 1>improved his game. Minnesota a team again that packs the paint.

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<v Speaker 1>They're super athletic. Vanderbilt as well. Um, Vanderbilt is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who defends Lebron really well. I feel like, but yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Russ is gonna be like this all season. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>kind to kind of live with that until a d

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<v Speaker 1>gets back. But I think having all our wings back

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<v Speaker 1>has really helped, especially helped him as well. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we gonna see it from now. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>been interesting to see the way that Frank has stayed

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<v Speaker 1>away from Dwight with the second unit, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that I personally have disagreed with leading into this,

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<v Speaker 1>because Dwight is a quality NBA center, especially as a

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<v Speaker 1>bench center, and so it doesn't make sense to leave

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<v Speaker 1>a quality NBA player on the bench when as a

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<v Speaker 1>team you've kind of struggled with talent throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's an interesting strategy that Frank is

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<v Speaker 1>going with there. I think he's leaning into this five

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<v Speaker 1>out concept and trying to make it so that all

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<v Speaker 1>of his lineups are playing that style and so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can get good at it. Now, there's a flip

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<v Speaker 1>side to that, like versatility is part of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd like to have an opportunity to change your game

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<v Speaker 1>plan if something is not working, But then you can

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<v Speaker 1>look at it from the other side and look at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the game, they ended up taking nas

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<v Speaker 1>Read out, So as much as nos Read was punishing

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<v Speaker 1>them in those smaller lineups, they went away from him late.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it was waiting to see who would blink,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Timberwolves blinked first, if that makes sense. They

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<v Speaker 1>came down to our style and played five out at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. And you know, early on in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that tug of war was happening, and Frank

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<v Speaker 1>did not blink. And I think part of the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why what I thought was interesting, especially as we got

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<v Speaker 1>to the fourth quarter. I thought we were a bad

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<v Speaker 1>help team to start this game. There were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of plays where we could give up dribble penetration or

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<v Speaker 1>a cunt or something and there would either be no

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<v Speaker 1>help at all, or if the first helper would come over,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd do a really poor job of helping the helper

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<v Speaker 1>and then everyone would be kind of standing around staring

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<v Speaker 1>at each other. And they really they really turned that

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<v Speaker 1>up in that fourth quarter to take away all of

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<v Speaker 1>those easy reads that that Minnesota was attacking early in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. And that was where, you know, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people on Twitter because I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>coming around to this five out concept as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just from you know, following the show. But like I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was I thought it was really interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see as that game progressed, people Laker fans getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little upset that Dwight wasn't out there because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>see the overall picture. They just see one thing. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>see an offensive rebound put back, or they'll see Nasri

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<v Speaker 1>doing a power dribble into a guard in him bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>off and laying the ball up and they think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting killed by size, but they don't see all

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<v Speaker 1>of the other benefits that come from being small. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, if a team like Minnesota is utterly packing

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<v Speaker 1>the pain and completely ignoring Russell Westbrook, having Dwhite out

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<v Speaker 1>there in that lineup only compounds that problem. So even

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<v Speaker 1>if you do keep nas Read off the glass, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you do secure a few more defensive rebounds, you

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<v Speaker 1>suffer in a lot of the other areas of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that that's what I thought was really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>about that idea ideology is when you go small, you

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<v Speaker 1>understand that you're giving up something to get something. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming around to that ideology. And I was impressed

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<v Speaker 1>by Frank tonight because he had an easy trigger he

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<v Speaker 1>could pull at any point in that game. He could

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<v Speaker 1>have gone to Dwight, put him on nas Read and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to fight him off the glass a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's stuck with the game plan. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of that game, you had two teams playing five out,

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<v Speaker 1>nas Read on the bench, and one of the teams

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<v Speaker 1>playing five out had Lebron freaking James at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the key, calling for screens from guards and making

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<v Speaker 1>reads and and and generating quality shots, while on the

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<v Speaker 1>other end, you had lesser basketball players trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. So I think I think it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see where that that direction, that the direction this

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<v Speaker 1>takes the team moving forward, and especially with Anthony Davis

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<v Speaker 1>coming back kind of you know, I've seen a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of people say this, like, that's why it's so important

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<v Speaker 1>when Anthony Davis comes back, that we don't just start

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<v Speaker 1>force feeding him in the post NonStop, because we need

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<v Speaker 1>to try to maintain this style of play, almost using

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis as a wing, you know that, and posting

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<v Speaker 1>him when it makes sense, but not getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>this style of basketball, because I am a believer in

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<v Speaker 1>this style, and I think it could work, especially now

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<v Speaker 1>that we have some of our wings back, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to look at the schedule and say, Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>played Portland's, Okay, you played Minnesota without their you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two of their better three players. But the flip side

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<v Speaker 1>of that is we also got Trevor Rees back and

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Reaves back, and we're much more functional small ball

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<v Speaker 1>basketball team now because we have more wings. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious to see over the next few weeks if this

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<v Speaker 1>translates to wins against better teams. That will be a

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<v Speaker 1>good indicator of whether or not the style will work.

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<v Speaker 1>Um moving forward with me, he was coming back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the Dwight thing is super interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they lean fully into the small ball, and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather have it be this way right, rather than be

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<v Speaker 1>fully into the small ball. And maybe they don't, or

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<v Speaker 1>they do go into a few bigs rather than on

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<v Speaker 1>their way around that. It was when we started the season,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were starting with two bigs. The Dwight thing

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<v Speaker 1>to me is only I would like him out there

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<v Speaker 1>just when it's like Carmelo at the five and we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of filling out Carmelo with Stanley Johnson or Carmelo

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<v Speaker 1>with Trevor Reza. Trevor's only played twelve minutes tonight, Carmelo

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<v Speaker 1>getting hit a bunch of huge shots. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes though it's too much for him, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think he doesn't have it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be as rigid. I think Dwight can still play ten

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve minutes just to give them a break, because

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell having Lebron be the guy who has

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up nas Read full time and then we've

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<v Speaker 1>gone into the you know how it's easier for him

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<v Speaker 1>to play more physical rather than being on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>All that's true, he still look kind of tired to

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<v Speaker 1>me at the end there. You could see him kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hands on his knees. Having to be the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who rotates every time, also be the physical matchup guy

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<v Speaker 1>who wins the physical battles right on the boards, have

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<v Speaker 1>to box out nas Read. All that stuff is tough

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<v Speaker 1>for him to do, especially when he's playing forty minutes tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes like he did tonight. And that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>think just sprinkling in Dwight for a little bit, let

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<v Speaker 1>him kind of battle, let him kind of battle, uh windows,

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<v Speaker 1>physical battles against guys Black Nosfreed, who was having a

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<v Speaker 1>career game. He had like twenty one and seven. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it was the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>third or by halftime something like that. He was having

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy battle. They were winning the points in opinion

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<v Speaker 1>as well, fifty two to thirty eight or fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty eight at one point. That's the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see Dwight put a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But I understand it, Like, again, this is nitpicking to me.

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<v Speaker 1>They've gone all into the small ball. I think once

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons minutes come up a little bit, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twelve minutes because he was out for COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe that's maybe that's why they're still kind of

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<v Speaker 1>uh sprinkling his minutes down for now. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>would like to see Dwight maybe play a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right leaning all the way into the small ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. I think it's helped the offense

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We have a bunch of shooters out there,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really only playing like one non shooter at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about Russ is the nonshooter really in the

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<v Speaker 1>starting lineup, and then you have THHC coming in for

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<v Speaker 1>him as a non shooter there, and then I think

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight and kind of come in for maybe tich He

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<v Speaker 1>or something, just keeping that as one non shooter on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. But yeah, they've leave it to it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the randomly they went to both HD at Russ

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time in the middle of the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter in the offense completely fell apart almost immediately right right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like him not playing with all three right,

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<v Speaker 1>all three of Lebron. Uh, well it's not Lebron rust

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<v Speaker 1>uh and t HD on the floor. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>does help Tylon and Taylan still kind of in his head.

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<v Speaker 1>I was happy he was able to see a step

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<v Speaker 1>back jumper go. He get some nice defensive plays as

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<v Speaker 1>well in the fourth. I think he'll eventually get his

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<v Speaker 1>rhythm going. But yeah, man, that's where I'm at with

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<v Speaker 1>the Dwight thing. I would like him to play at

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<v Speaker 1>least like maybe if it's not like it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to play twenty minutes of game, ten minutes a game,

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<v Speaker 1>just to give a little bit break on the physical

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<v Speaker 1>battle rare Carmelo or Lebron don't have to be the

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<v Speaker 1>only one down there. But you know, going to small ball,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. I think it's something we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do until a d gets back in February. Yeah. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good argument for it. It's the same argument

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<v Speaker 1>I've been making over the course of the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks on here. I just I'm coming around to

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<v Speaker 1>see what Frank's ideology is. You can see how if

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<v Speaker 1>you played five out for forty eight minutes, but then

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<v Speaker 1>randomly turned eight of those minutes into Dwight Howard springing

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<v Speaker 1>roll basketball with you know, totally different vibe guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the dunker spot, that kind of thing that you can

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<v Speaker 1>see how that could disrupt the rhythm and flow of

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<v Speaker 1>a five out attack over the course of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I all I'm saying is because I tend to

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<v Speaker 1>be with you, especially since I would imagine that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>replicate some of the defensive schemes that you'll use with

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<v Speaker 1>a D with Dwight, so you want to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>practice those, So I get it. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I see where Frank is coming from, so that that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my perspective with it. I think th HD

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<v Speaker 1>s trending in the right direction. I thought you saw

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<v Speaker 1>a different vibe out of him in terms of his

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<v Speaker 1>confidence tonight. You know, we talked a lot about how

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<v Speaker 1>in recent weeks he hasn't been trying to bully people

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<v Speaker 1>as often as he used to, and early in the

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<v Speaker 1>end just just drove I can't remember who was guarding him,

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<v Speaker 1>and just drove it in cave someone's chest in and

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<v Speaker 1>it had that little extension right handed layup. He has

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<v Speaker 1>had quite a few defensive moments in recent games as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming around on the th HT thing now that

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<v Speaker 1>he's back in the lineup and he's not dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID has mentioned. He's getting his rhythm back, he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting his legs back. The jump shot, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is at this point. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>to to make some eventually. Um, he's not this bad

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<v Speaker 1>of a shooter, but it could forever be a problem

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<v Speaker 1>again with these kind of guys, with t h T

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<v Speaker 1>and Russ, there's a fine line between what will work

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<v Speaker 1>on the day to day basis of the regular season

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<v Speaker 1>and how this could change come playoff time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it's a legitimate concern and it's something to

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, Like what works against the Houston's and

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<v Speaker 1>the Portland's of the world doesn't necessarily work against teams

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<v Speaker 1>that are game planning for you, that have seen you

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times, that have seen what makes you comfortable. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said earlier, Russ likes to pass the spaces. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what something that's exactly the type of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>can be game planned for. There's a reason why Russ

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<v Speaker 1>likes to pass to the week side corner or the

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<v Speaker 1>strong side corner when he's driving to the basket. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the easiest past to make when you have

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<v Speaker 1>had his team going to the rim, It's very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to make passes across your body. So as a defense,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can game plan for that and you can

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<v Speaker 1>pre rotate to the corners, that's gonna take away. He's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to read and put Russ in a position where

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<v Speaker 1>he's throwing the ball over the court and turning the

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<v Speaker 1>ball over. So those are the kinds of things that

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<v Speaker 1>are just are worth keeping an eye on as far

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<v Speaker 1>as things that could rear their ugly head at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in the future this season. But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Malik Monk for a second because he has

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<v Speaker 1>become he started tonight right, I wasn't hallucinating that, so okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So he uh, in a weird way, he's become our

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<v Speaker 1>green light guy off the bench as a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Melo kind of has a green light too,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more of like in a closeout attacking kind

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<v Speaker 1>of way, like we give him the green light on

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<v Speaker 1>catch and shoot situations. But both Malik Monk is playing

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<v Speaker 1>with a ton of confidence right now, and even when

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<v Speaker 1>he's taken some of these tougher step back shots and

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<v Speaker 1>things along those lines. I just feel like they're going

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<v Speaker 1>in and so especially getting in with Frank back from

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<v Speaker 1>COVID and getting him back on the right track defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's trending in a way that really makes

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<v Speaker 1>me excited from and he's another guy who's really thriving

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.359
<v Speaker 1>in this five out attack too. By the way. It

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<v Speaker 1>just consistently driving and kicking and creating an advantage or

0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.080
<v Speaker 1>attacking when he already has an advantage. But I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited about how good the week looks, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is a potential ceiling Razor. Yeah, for sure. Him

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<v Speaker 1>and Lebron definitely have a chemistry that just pops off

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<v Speaker 1>the screen right, and that's been pretty much since the

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<v Speaker 1>season started. I think we really missed him when he

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<v Speaker 1>was out. I believe in COVID protocols as well. Him

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<v Speaker 1>and Reeves together. I like them as well. Just both

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 1>guys who cut really nicely, and there were kind of

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.400
<v Speaker 1>two guys that looks like they were born to play

0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 1>next to Lebron James. Just guys you know how to cut,

0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.439
<v Speaker 1>you know how to relocate on threes as well. I

0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like when he gets because he when he takes

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<v Speaker 1>when he like takes his spot up threes, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>into a dip before he shoot him. Every time he

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<v Speaker 1>gets into that, I feel like the shots going in.

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>You're right, he has a freedom, he has a green light.

0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>He's a guy who knows who he is, right like,

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he knows exactly what he does. He's there to score.

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>There's no you know, there's no qualms about what he's

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna do on the floor. He's not really looking to

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<v Speaker 1>create as well. He's just going to the basket. He

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.639
<v Speaker 1>has all these moves at the rim too, but his

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<v Speaker 1>jumper is just on. I think he started like six

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<v Speaker 1>for six tonight or something like that. But he looks good,

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.160
<v Speaker 1>looks in the rhythm, looks confident as well. It doesn't

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>look you know, shy ors here at the moment at all.

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Um even a big time situations has big shots for

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<v Speaker 1>this team. He's been awesome. Man, he's been starting. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's been great. I think putting him in for

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<v Speaker 1>th h T and the starters has been really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Just it just gives the offense a little bit more flow.

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<v Speaker 1>Has has enough ball handling as well, can attack close

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:35.960
<v Speaker 1>out He's just been really good at their stunning run

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 1>actions for him as well, comes off screens. He's aggressive

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>off screens, So he's been just good man. I love

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the chemistry him and Lebron have. I think human reeves

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.959
<v Speaker 1>like I talked about, are really interesting combination. Even if

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>those two don't start when the team is fully healthy.

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I think off the bench too, just two guys who

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<v Speaker 1>know how to play, who cut really nice, to relocate

0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.360
<v Speaker 1>really nicely all over the floor, just can play off

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 1>each other. But he's been great, man, He's been a savior.

0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Him and Melow as well. Mellow hit a bunch of

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.200
<v Speaker 1>big leak as well, hit a big three tonight to

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<v Speaker 1>get to get us a lead, I believe. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was good, and him and Lebron are definitely kind

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<v Speaker 1>of growing, and we're starting to see a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>like Malik screening for Lebron as well. Lee goes in

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the short role and he's able to score off that.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two really like to play with each other, it

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>looks like. And he's been good. Yeah. The last guy

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about that I had on my

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<v Speaker 1>list was Stanley Johnson because I think he presents an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting alternative to Carmelo, and I know they're totally different archetypes,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get that, but just the type of damage

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:33.679
<v Speaker 1>that he can cause with his eyes and athleticism, and

0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.360
<v Speaker 1>we we haven't really had a chance to see him

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 1>aside from the Christmas Day game. Get to do it

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:41.919
<v Speaker 1>in crunch time, where where I think that kind of

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 1>thing can be very valuable because of how how physical

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the refs allowed the games be played at that point.

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Like that dude just makes plays like they're in that

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.400
<v Speaker 1>first quarter. There was just he had a big offensive

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>rebound that led to Lebron's first three. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>play where Malik Monk got to run out dunk where

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley John some kind of trapped screen and roll with

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Edwards on the opposite wing and just jumped and

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>put some ball pressure as Anthony Edwards was throwing the

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 1>cross court pass, so it forced Anthony Edwards thrown higher

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 1>in the air and Nasri fumbled the pass and Lickmunk

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 1>got a dunk. And then he had another play that

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>led to a Lebron run out where he got to

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>steal on the other wing. Like he just is so

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:27.399
<v Speaker 1>physically gifted and specifically in environments where physicality is allowed,

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that becomes so much more valuable. And mellow Melos shot

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.479
<v Speaker 1>the ball well over the last couple of games, but

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 1>over the course of the last month he hasn't shot

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the ball well. And I think it's an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>to and if we talked about it earlier, you did

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<v Speaker 1>in relation to his minutes and whether or not those

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>two things are directly related, and I'm pretty sure they are,

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>but that it's an interesting idea to consider potentially going

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<v Speaker 1>with someone like Stanley a little bit more and someone

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 1>like Carmelo a little bit less, understanding that it does

0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>impact your offense slightly, but he does a lot of

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 1>impact plays, like Stanley Johnson was over three tonight, so

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not like he was impacting the game offensively, but

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>he directly led to offense for us with plays he

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was making with the size and athleticism. And to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>to take a little bit more off on Carmelo's plate,

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe he goes back to shooting the way he did

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to start the season, and that, you know, carries a

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of value there. But I I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>see just a little bit more Stanley and I there

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was that weird comment from Frank Vogel before last night's

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>or before the Portland's game on Ear's Eve, where he

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>basically was like, all, we're gonna evaluate him for the

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<v Speaker 1>entirety of the ten days and then we'll make the decision.

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Frank is very keep things to the chest.

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 1>That's very his ideology. He's he's very very professional in

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that way, and I respect that. But I'm hoping that

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.479
<v Speaker 1>they see what I see and what all of you

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>guys see with Stanley because he's like like a drink

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 1>of water in the middle of the desert. He's something

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>this team has desperately needed um and lacked this entire season,

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm hoping that he'll stick around and the big role. Yeah,

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the Rondo you know, the Rondo trade

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that I don't think he's officially but that kind of

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>uh stood out to me as they're gonna keep Stanley

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Johnson and Darren Collinson. I think this was the last

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<v Speaker 1>day of his ten day and he was inactive for

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the last two games, so that can kind of tell

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>you where this is going. But yeah, Stanley Johnson started tonight.

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean players don't usually go from starting to our cut,

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>So like I think he's gonna stay on the team.

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.360
<v Speaker 1>He's been great, big physical wing, right, big defensive wing.

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Just feels a need that this that this team desperately

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 1>needed on the defensive ent as well. And he just

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>plays super hard falls minutes. And that's a skill to me.

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, playing hard is just seemed like

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>as something that every player can do, and I don't.

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't really believe in that. I think guys who

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>play super hard all the time, that's a skill to me.

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Stanley Johnson is on this team because of his offensive deficiencies.

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>But I think you're seeing players all around the league

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.239
<v Speaker 1>that are able to make an impact that are you know,

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>offensive liabilities, even at times like GP two as well

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>as on the Warriors. You're seeing a lot of teams

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>like that kind of pick up where you have stars

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>who can handle the offensive load and you have guys

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.719
<v Speaker 1>like Stanley Johnson who can you know, just screen and

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>cut and uh he takes he takes open shots. But

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I think, which I think is important, he's not a

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>guy that passes up shots. Even if he's not gonna

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>hit at a high percentage, he's at least shootsing up

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>to where he's respected and he can attack closeouts and

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>we saw a little bit of this during his tenure.

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>He attacks clothes outs, he can find guys. He has

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a passing skill as well. He

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>has enough ball handling to where like in that starting lineup,

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you can rotate the ball to him and he can

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>attack off the bounce or even take that spot up three.

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>But he's been good man, he's been a breath of

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>fresh shair, like you talked about, guy who just plays

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 1>hard and he just looks huge on the floor. Him

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Lebron stands stand next to each other and they almost

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>look like like size. And having those two guys where

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>you can switch actions, he's pretty much the power forward

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in the starting lineup. We're playing him as pretty much

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the backup five next to Melow. Those two kind of

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 1>switch off, switch off and on and again. I would

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 1>like Dwight to kind of fill in a little bit

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:57.959
<v Speaker 1>on those lineus. But he's been good man. He's been

0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a really nice fit on this team, and I think

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>he's going to stay for a while. Now. Um I

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>might ask you, do you think Darren Colinson stage after

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>after these ten days, do you think he's gonna stay

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>on the roster. I doubt it, just simply because of

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>what we know about the Lakers and the way they

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>manage their money. But now that Rondo's gone, I'd certainly

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 1>like for them to keep him at least until they

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>need someone else. But you know, us Laker fans, we

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>think about this in a in a way that doesn't

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>factor in what the ownership group is thinking. I think

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>if I think if this was you know, Steve Ballmer,

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be keeping Callison in a heartbeat. But

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the Lakers, and it's Junie Buss and I

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 1>my guess is that he'll end up being like at

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the end of the the contract. What do you think? Yeah,

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. I'm really not sure, because I do think

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Jordan is probably gone sooner than later, just the

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 1>way it's kind of matched up here. He's not getting

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>any minutes, and we haven't We've gone to no bigs,

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and I think the next big is Dwight Howard, so

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gone. I would like to see Darren

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Colinson kind of get more than ten days. I think

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're off for three years, like ten days to

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of get your rhythm, to get back to you

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 1>know basketball shape, a regular shape brother alone basketball NBA shape.

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that takes time, like we talked about, and

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I think he has enough basketball like you to where

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>he's made somewhat of impact. His jumper hasn't been there.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Just a smart, uh, grown up basketball player. I like

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>like the term we hear from Wayne Allington as well.

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of fits up Darren Coulson just

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>in control point guard. But you know, his time might

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 1>be up. I just would like to see it a

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit longer, at least until Kendrick Nunne at least

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>gets back. And we really had no news on Kendrick Gunne,

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>so I would like to have at least one more

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>just you know, solid backup point guard where he can

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>just go on the floor and kind of control things.

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, his time might be up. But yeah, Stanley

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Johnson I think isn't going anywhere. I don't think Avery

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Bradley is going anywhere either. I think the Lakers have

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>until like until a couple more days to decide whether

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>his contract is guaranteed for a full year. I think

0:28:54.760 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that is already done again. He's starting as well, So yeah,

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I think the Spectrum said he's should from three since

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>December two or something. Um, and he's missed a few

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>games within that. But yeah, he's been solid, plays his role,

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>plays hard, hits his open threes. I don't know what

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>more you can ask. Has been a good cutter as

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>well on this team, so I think he gets guaranteed

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>as well. Um, but yeah, I think Stanley Johnson and

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Enable badly as well. Stay on the team. Jarren Coulston,

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you for sure. So the I shared a

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>tweet in the in the space, you guys should be

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>able to look at it if I did it right,

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>But who knows. Spaces can be a little jankie sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But Frank Vogel, this is from Lakers Nation. Frank Vogel

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<v Speaker 1>says he had to resist the urge to go big

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>when they were getting killed on the glass. He feels

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the Timberwolves are a great perimeter crashing team, so going

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>with a bigger lineup would it have changed much? Um?

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Super interesting because that's exactly what we were talking about

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the pod, and this idea that

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>these teams come into these battles with differing styles and

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of about who blinks first. And this is

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>really interesting when it when it comes playoff time, because

0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta keep in mind when you have two teams

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<v Speaker 1>coming to play each other, especially when they play each

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>other multiple times, each of them have a point of advantage.

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>This is something you and I talked a lot about

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in the season, like, when you're looking at a team

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and playing them seven times, what are the clear and

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>distinct advantages you have? And obviously Lebron and Anthony Davis

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>present two massive advantages that the Lakers have going into

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>playoff series. Is and that's what we always used to

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>derive confidence in the team and their ability to beat

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>somebody four times out of seven is there's no adjustment

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>for the fact that Lebron is probably a hell of

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot better than your small forward or your power forward,

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and Anthony Davis is a hell of a lot better

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>than your big man. And and so what's interesting is

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you get into these situations. You know, this happened a

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<v Speaker 1>lot at the beginning of the year, especially when we

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>go big, and it's like, Okay, we have our advantage, right,

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>We're huge all over the place. But they have their advantage.

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>They're smaller and they're quicker. But each team is giving

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>up something, and both coaching stabs are looking at the

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>game and they're like, man, this is frustrating. We keep

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>giving up this, or this is frustrating, we keep giving

0:30:58.640 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>up that. But at the same time, they have to

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>stink advantages from those same lineups, and it's all about

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>who blinks first, because whoever blinks first the other team

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the team that controls the style

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of the game. And you saw that tonight. The Lakers

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>stayed small when Minnesota played big for much of the night,

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and then Minnesota blinked and they went small, and then

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>we got to play our style. And even though we're

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>not perfect at this style yet and we're probably far

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>from what we're going to be at the end of

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the season, it's cool to see that Frank is committed

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to it enough to look at all the bad things

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that come with that style but appreciate the good things

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that come with the style and stick with it so

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that we can use that to our advantage in specific matchups.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>And so I thought I thought that quote was interesting.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>It means that what we're seeing is what Frank is seeing,

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think I think it's an interesting thing to

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>watch moving forward. Yeah, and just adding on to that,

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Doon, who also um covers the Lakers. Uh. He

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>had a quote today from Frank as well on the

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>small bond and staying staying small, not playing Dwight Howard. Uh.

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>He said, the Lakers want to adapt to competing on

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the boards in their small units. If we're gonna explore

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>this style player, we're gonna have to learn how to

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>deal with this. So again, what you talked about as

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>well staying small, you gotta learn how to rebound. I

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>guess without bigs on the floor wanting the guards to

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>come crash. I thought a lot of times as well

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>tonight our guards kind of stayed out on the perimeter,

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>leaving you know, lebron Or or Carmelo or whatever to

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>battle naz Reid whoever was going down, who was crashing

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to get offensive rebounds. He talked about in Minnesota's the

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>athletic you know rebounding team Patrick Beverley as well as

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a guy who crashed his offensive rebounds. Vanderbil I talked

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>about he's an athletic big wing. Uh and the nozz

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Red as well as the center for them did a

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>really nice job crashing down. So I'm with Frank there again,

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it has to be so rigid, but

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand what he's going for. He's trying to If

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna lean into small ball, they're gonna lean into

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it all the way, right, And I think that's the

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>correct identity of this team, even though I think we

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>can kind of fill out a little bit more with

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>a couple of bigs with just one big plane. But

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I understand what he's going for, and it makes sense,

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>especially with a d out for so long, we have

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to kind of stick to the style of play and

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>we have to see if it works against the better team.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>But I think getting our wings back is great. Having

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a Resa Reeves all in the rotation now, I think

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>in the reason only twelve minutes tonight, but I think

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that will pick up with his conditioning kind of coming

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>back from from the COVID protocols. But having our wings back,

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>it just looks so much better. Man, We're not just

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>playing these super small guards. Having a wing rotation has

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>been nice. Karl Mello played thirty minutes tonight, but you

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>got to play next to other wings as Stanley Johnson

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>as well. It feels like we added three players to

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the team. Honestly with with Stanley and the Resa coming back,

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and then Reeves as well, who we missed. Like, that's

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>three full rotation players that we've kind of added, and

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it just looks a lot better. The rotation looks a

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>lot more clean. Minnesota had a couple of big runs tonight,

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you expect that with how how we played, and Lebron

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.959
<v Speaker 1>again just played great in that fourth quarter defense as well.

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man's it looks like we're kind of hopefully

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>going in a better direction here. I think we have

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.959
<v Speaker 1>four more home games to kind of pick up some

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>steam in the standings. Well, you know, it's kind of

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>like we're in the old new season right Like we

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>were starting the season with Kent Baysmore and DeAndre Jordan

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>in the starting lineup. Those guys are both still on

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the roster, but completely out of the rotation now and

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and and we've added Stanley Johnson and Austin Reeves has

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>come out of nowhere to be a bona fide rotation piece.

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, Avery Bradley was added literally on the last

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>day of training camp. So in a lot of ways,

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the team is completely different than what we expected. And

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>now we're playing a completely different style than we expected.

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>So a lot, a lot of the stuff that happened

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>early in the season now is utterly and completely irrelevant.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.760
<v Speaker 1>And then I like that Frank used the word explore

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>because that's kind of what it is when you don't

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>have a training camp to implement a system and now

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 1>on the fly, in the middle of a pretty crazy

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>NBA schedule, like they just played their fourth game in

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>six nights, in the middle of this wild schedule, we're

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to learn to play a new a new style

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of basketball. And so there's going like you said, there's

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be runs, there's gonna be stretches where it looks bad.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But the exciting part about that is that means that

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more room for improvement. When you look

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>at teams like Phoenix and teams like Utah who have

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>been playing the same style for a while, what you

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>see right now is what you get. There's not an

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>extra gear that they can get to in the playoffs,

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>because what you're seeing right now is the peak. It's

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the peak iteration of what they do on a basketball court.

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>What you're seeing from the Lakers right now is explore it.

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>It's exploration. They're learning how to play a new style

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>with new players, And the exciting part is they're gonna

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>be playing, even when Anthony Davis comes back, a completely

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>different style of basketball than they did in previous years.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>So even the Lakers in the playoffs that went to

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>primarily Anthony Davis at center, that style of basketball with

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Lebron and Nady at the four and five is gonna

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>look very different than what we're gonna see this year

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>with Lebron and Navy at the four and five when

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>we head into the postseason. So the exciting part there

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>is there's just a ton of room for improvement. As

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>long as health remains solid, as as long as you know,

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't see any unforeseen circumstances, and as long as

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.439
<v Speaker 1>the team kind of stays bought in, there's a very

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>good chance that they're gonna be a heck of a

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>lot better come April or May than they are now,

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 1>which is not something that can be said about their

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>competitors in the West. And so that that that to

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>me is something to get really excited about and and

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>it's cool to see them really really buy into that

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>identity shift so much so that in a game like tonight,

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>when it started to go south. They just stuck with it, Yeah,

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>for sure, And to be fair like Phoenix, like I understand,

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 1>they're probably not going to peak a lot higher than

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they are, but it's they're still at a very high

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>level that we have to at least still get to write.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>They're playing at a really high level. They execute really

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>nice the Utah as well. They have some flaws that

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>really show out in the postseason. But I think there's

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>still a really good team there. But when teams go small,

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously then they should. Yeah, and that's the hope at

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>least when a d comes back, he comes back to

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a team that's kind of in rhythm, that's going in

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>an upward direction. Right. Hopefully, hopefully we can kind of

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 1>move out of five hundred, out of the six h

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the seven spot, which I think is a plan. Maybe

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the four seed might be a little bit too high,

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>but I think there's still a chance they can get there,

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>and that's the hope. I wonder if Adie comes back,

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Lebron is still the center, I guess in a lot

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>of line up because I think that's something they've talked about,

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>which is something interesting and I think Vogel said the

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>other day as well, that you know, even when Adie

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>comes back, him and Lebron are going to be their

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>primary centers and we'll see if they'll go pick out

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>another big But that's what it seems like, kids looking like.

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>That's what the roster's kind of geared towards. I think

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>the Stanley Johnson signing is a representation of things something

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>they obviously thought they needed on the team. And now

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>we have a full We have a full rotation of

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>wings now right we have the Johnson Orresa Reeves. I

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>think that's a really good wing rotation to have, uh

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and with Carmelo who can sprinkle in as well come

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>playoff time. But that's the hope man. Hopefully when Adi

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>gets back, this team is on a upward trajectory and

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Kendrick Nunna if we can come back soon. Again, just

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>no news on Kendrick nunn which is which is interesting.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he's able to come back pretty soon because I

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>think we need his play, especially at the guard spot,

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:02.959
<v Speaker 1>and we need a guard kind of score off screen

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of roles and stuff like that. But it's been nice, man,

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Malik Monk has been saving us. Carmelo has hit some

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>big shots, every Badley has been consistent. We're getting stuff

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>out of a roll guys Russ and Lebron. If they

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>can continue to kind of build chemistry, we can go

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs with some positive energy with a d

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 1>coming back as well. Yeah, Kendrick nun is going to

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>be a breath of fresh air to try to take

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:21.879
<v Speaker 1>the ball out of Russ his hands a little bit more.

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>That's definitely something that excites me. You know, we talk

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot about Lebron's versatility on both ends of the

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>floor and his ability to play multiple positions, but we

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>don't give enough credit to Anthony Davis for being able

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to do the same thing defensively, Like how many centers

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>could you be? Like, Hey, we want to make our

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 1>power forward play all of our you know, back line

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.760
<v Speaker 1>drop coverage, you know, communication type roles on the defense,

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and we want you to go guard that, to guard

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>over there, like Anthony Davis can do that. That's that's

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 1>what makes him so devastating and in a weird way,

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I said this to you, I think two games ago,

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but the Lakers have kind of tripped and fallen into

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>modern basketball in a lot of ways by virtue of

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it was like Frank Vogel got dragged kicking and screaming

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>by positive COVID tests and pulled, you know, MCLs into

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>playing a style of basketball that he never in a

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>million years would have And it's kind of cool to

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>see that materialized. But Anthony Davis is going to be

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>an easy plug and play into that, and I think

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's gonna work really well. But that's that's all

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I had for tonight, Rogers or anything else you had

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>on your list that you wanted to touch. Well, just

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<v Speaker 1>last thing on the thing you said where you said

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of fell backwards into it. And I keep

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<v Speaker 1>bringing up the media the day thing, But I wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>like the reason the injury is such an inflection point

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<v Speaker 1>on the season, right because that that's the injury that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's brought up has switched the identity of this team

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<v Speaker 1>from small ball eighty at the five to a redon

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<v Speaker 1>Reason's injury to now then we went to DeAndre Jordan's

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<v Speaker 1>starting for twenty games. Like that's a really interesting kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look back on the season. And we obviously can't

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<v Speaker 1>go back in time and switch to games and find out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would just love to know how this team starts.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Westbrook gets talk to a better start if if

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<v Speaker 1>we go straight to you know, instead of a reason,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of going to DeAndre Jordan's, maybe you just fill

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, baysmore for a reason and try to

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<v Speaker 1>have a fast simile of him in that starting lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting. But we're here now, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is important. There's enough games to kind of build

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<v Speaker 1>a rhythm for this team to build an identity. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think getting to where Phoenix is is going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a lot of work, is gonna take a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of games, is gonna take all the team being healthy

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But yeah, that's the that's the hope here

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to find out. So Westbrook, Lebron and

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<v Speaker 1>a D have only played fifteen games together this season,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of really interesting when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>just how the other teams have continuity. You talked about Utah,

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<v Speaker 1>they pretty much have the same lineup bringing in Rudy

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<v Speaker 1>Gay from last season, and the Phoenix as well has

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<v Speaker 1>had the same starting line up from last year. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're already kind of behind in there and our stars

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<v Speaker 1>kind of only fifteen games played by a Stars, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to pick it up. Yeah, man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the hope. Hopefully Kendry No can come back and we

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<v Speaker 1>have our full team. We're getting close though everyone else's back,

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<v Speaker 1>A D and none are the only ones left, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we can kind of build and when some wins

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<v Speaker 1>here going into the All Star break. All right, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all we have for tonight. This is gonna air

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<v Speaker 1>on DASH Radio tomorrow morning at seven and Pacific Standard time.

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half, but we appreciate you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Support is always. Happy New Year from Roger and Night

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see you for the game on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks everyone, Happy