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And one of the storylines that's been 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.640 kind of going on for a little while now is 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:37.440 the situation in Cleveland and the situation we will start 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:42.160 with the Deshaun Watson side of things, who spoke about 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.920 sort of his focus is they get ready to play 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.160 and get ready to perform and ready for the regular 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.760 season and get ready for these preseason games. But also 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.520 he was asked as well during the course of this 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.720 conversation about the reaction he expects to get from fans 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.000 in Cleveland when he does play at home. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:01.560 Again, let's take a listen. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.240 Yeah, I mean every opportunity for me, I just want 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.640 to go out there and prove that I'm capable of 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.760 being a starter. But as far as just nailing it 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.400 and trying to yeah, my main focus is just trying 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.720 to improve. You know, I'm not really focused on just 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.080 the composition. You know, I think the front office and 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.639 coach Monken is going to make that decision based on 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.400 how they going to make that decision, you know, So 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.160 you know, I can't really control that as far as 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.080 what they want to go with. But I can't control 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.000 my opportunities and my reps that I get and being 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:29.840 successful with that. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.040 You've thought about any type of reaction that you might 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.280 get at the stadium on Saturday. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.799 Are you prepared for whatever might come? 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:38.800 I don't. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.679 I don't care. I don't care. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:42.919 So take that, Browns fans. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.600 I take that as he enterest the final a year 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.400 of a two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed contract. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:49.160 Screw you. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.839 I don't care what the right act. Just today, I'm 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.720 getting paid and that's going to take. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:56.639 Got me. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.920 That's the reality is he's what it's called fu mon. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.200 I mean, he's got that now and he's more focused 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.079 on building back his career than anything else. And when 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.640 the Browns fans want to hear it or not, you know, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.040 he doesn't doesn't matter, Like it doesn't matter what they think, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:15.400 what they care. In his mind, he needs to go 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:16.880 out there and play to the best of his ability. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:22.320 I would say this though, this, this honestly didn't need 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.720 to happen this season. You know, they could have moved 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.240 on from him, we could have gotten rid of all 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.720 this drama could have let Shador start. See what you 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.440 have in Shador, see what you even have, and Dylan 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.520 Gabriel or Taylor Taylor Green, Taylor Green, who's on the 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.360 roster they drafted this year. You could have won with 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.040 any of those options. And I think Brown's fans will 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.080 be more pleased because they're curious and they and there's 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:46.800 a lot who are rooting for Shador because they want 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.200 to see what he's capable of, especially with his slide 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.680 in the draft. And unfortunately, the Browns just find a 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.400 way of putting themselves in this position every time. The 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.560 fact that they signed to Sean Watson to the deal 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.400 they did, you know, brought him in, traded for him, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.120 like with everything they did. Like this is one of 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:08.160 those examples of when we say the right situation, circumstance, 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.040 it never feels it's like that at Cleveland, somehow, somewhere 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.600 they always seem to get in their own way. And 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:19.279 so these quotes this quarterback competition, the resentment that the 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.479 Browns fans have for the lack of what Deshaun Watson's done, 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.000 the contract that he signed, everything that comes along with it. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.480 The Browns can't point the finger anywhere else other than themselves. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.240 And it's top down, it's ownership, it's the front office. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.000 So you know, this season, we'll see how things go. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.640 We'll see if Deshaun Watson starts or not, and how 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.160 he performs. But I would have a hard time imagining 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.000 that it's going to turn the feelings of a lot 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:46.720 of Browns fans where they gonna be rooting for him 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.760 and asking him to be extended. You know, this will 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.720 most likely be his final year in Cleveland. I'd be 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.080 willing to bet on that, and I would not be 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.000 shocked I Shude or Sanders doesn't take over for a 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.159 large portion of this season. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:02.760 How much of him not s living up to the 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.000 contract does he have to do with it? How much 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.880 culpability to it. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.680 But here's the problem. He was never gonna be able 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.279 to live up to that contract. Like, if we're honest 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.560 with ourselves, every single time in free agency we see 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.440 a player, Hey, he reset the market. Hey he's he's 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.040 now the highest paid at this position. You know, Patty 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.599 always is, Hey, we just signed our cornerback to the 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.839 biggest contract ever for a cornerback in NFL. It's like, Okay, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.720 it's hard to live up to that, because the expectation 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.080 is that you're gonna be able to play as the 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.680 best cornerback in the NFL every single year until the 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.920 next time your contract's up, and it's just not sustainable 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.839 and that contract won't live the test of time. So 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.480 you know, it's it was never it was never going 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.359 to be a contract he could live up to. In 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.919 the first case, what I loved about the contract was 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.440 for all players, it actually showed you you could find 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.320 an organization that, despite all the off the field stuff, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.400 was actually willing to give you a fully guaranteed deal. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.800 It was amazing. It's amazing. And then it's like, oh, 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.360 well because of how he didn't perform, now instead of 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.280 it being collusion amongst the owners, which I think we 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.760 all agree, everyone looked at Jimmy has them, They're like, dude. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:16.120 What are you doing? 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.200 What are you doing? 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.200 There's never been a contract like it since no And. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.240 But again they can use the excuse of saying, well, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:25.800 look how that turned out, We're not gonna do it. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.800 Cleveland did like that. That's their excuse to get around 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.200 the collusion of it is it's been such a disaster 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.839 that they can sit there and hang their hat on. Well, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.240 look how that turned out as opposed to it being no, man, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.039 we just don't want to give guys five year fully 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.039 guaranteed deals. We don't have to put that much money 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.080 up in escrow. You know that we have to put 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.400 up every single year for these guarantees within the contracts 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.240 on our roster, which is ultimately the truth, but no 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:50.240 one's ever gonna admit that. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.400 I'm glad you came to the conclusion that I felt 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.280 like you would come to, and the question being you 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:02.120 weren't going to You're not going to play the contract and. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.800 Justify the contract. It's not going to happen. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:10.520 And so there's no reason to have any ill feelings 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.560 towards him for saying he doesn't care about what the 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.480 fans think, because if he really cared about what the 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.440 fans thinks, I'm sure he's hurt more than enough from 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.640 the fans by now to know what the fans think 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.240 about him, and it's probably not very positive. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.720 So hold on the idea of all of this. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:35.840 Being where we are right now is more about their 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:41.200 lack of belief, and this is just my opinion. I 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.480 think it's more about their lack of belief of how 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.360 good this team can be with the current quarterbacks that 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.960 they had before Deshaun Watson was coming back healthy. I 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.680 think the only reason why the we're done with the 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.840 Deshaun Watson experiment that the owner came out said, the 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:05.320 only reason why it makes sense and he can say, ah, 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.680 you know, I didn't, you know, I meant it, but hey, 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.800 it's because you brought in a new coach. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:11.760 That new coach came in and. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:17.400 He evaluated these players, and this just screams, we got 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.400 to try with Deshaun. We got to try with Deshaun 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.360 Watson because from what I can gather and what I 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.560 can see, he's going to give us the best opportunity 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.000 and the best chance to win. I don't think that well, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.360 Like first on the comments about I don't care what 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.679 the fans think, Like I get it, like why should 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:35.600 he care what the fans think? 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.760 He already got paid, et cetera. But but at some point, 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.040 don't you feel a little bit guilty, Like, hey, man, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.520 like I basically walked in there with a towel over 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.719 my shoulder that I've been using, you know, for the 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.559 last few years. At name a place with the neon 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.160 light in the in the front window and a ski 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.679 mask on, and I just took them for two hundred 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.280 and thirty million dollars and I haven't really played at all, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.160 and when I have, the results have been really underwhelming. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.920 And it's like, yeah, I get it that you you know, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.079 maybe yeah, I don't. I don't care about the fans reaction, 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.199 But wouldn't you want to like give him something like 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.800 wouldn't you feel a little bit guilty? You got paid, 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.040 you let him down? You get I just like that's 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.360 the part that I listen when he says those things, Well, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.080 I don't care what the reaction of the fans is 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.559 going to be. Why not, it's just. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.960 Part of the game. Why why? Why was his business? 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.480 It's not his fault. He's getting hurt. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:33.960 Like you've signed a record setting contract and not lived 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.400 up to any of it, Like I I would feel guilty, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.080 like oh man, like, yeah, I didn't I didn't do enough, 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.040 Like I don't feel like I'm glad I got paid. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.439 I don't regret signing the contract. I regret my performance 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.920 after signing the contrat Then you get to the end 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:51.120 of your contract and he's probably about to bawl out. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.160 Oh it's my I can't wait, that's all I want. 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.440 I hope he's the MVP Comeback Player of the Year. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.719 Yeah, MVP, I hope, And I RANI has to say 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.760 about the Cleveland Browns quarterback, I. 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.960 Will say what I've said there. He would you would 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.559 then be a great tradeable asset. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.440 If that's the case, you trade him away. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.200 The hard part is in that instance is they're probably 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.240 winning enough games that they're not in a position to 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.240 draft a quarterback for the future. And if he and 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.000 then you don't even know what you have in Shador. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:30.640 But honestly, that's probably is the worst case scenario. Even 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.480 though you'd assume if he's the m v P, they're 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:37.040 winning the divisions, they lose the Shott play. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.080 I mean, that's that's. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.440 Where that's where Cleveland fans are at. They would rather 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.360 lose a bunch of games this season and get Shador 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.520 in their asap to start and play. If Deshaun Watson 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.600 ends up starting, they would rather lose a bunch and 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.960 then get Shador and to see what they have in him, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.480 and then it positions themselves either to have him as 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.040 the future of if he does well, if he doesn't 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.320 they're drafting one next year, and it could be Arch Manning, 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.760 it could be you know, pick your favorite quarterback in 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.760 the twenty twenty seven draft class. But that is what 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.360 a lot of fans that I here want. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:11.120 I don't. 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.360 I don't hear many people clamoring for Deshaun Watson. When 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.280 they talked Browns football, they talk about what their expectations 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.520 are for this season. You know. And by the way, 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.480 even when he first signed, the optimism that folks had 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.680 because of the success that he had in Houston, it 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.079 was kind of like a because what he was dealing 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.640 with off the field, it was like yeah, yeah to 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.200 sign to Sean, Yeah, I hope it goes well. It 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.080 was like it wasn't like a sense of excitement and 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:39.960 it was more of a sense of like, yeah, we 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.800 kind of are ashamed that this is the route we're going. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.200 It was kind of like that huh to where there 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.840 was no real all right, we did it, everybody, like 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.960 we finally found our quarterback. It was like, I don't 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.480 know about this, Like there was sort of this hesitation 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.079 to really celebrate. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.560 It's the only organization where if you had some in 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.000 the front office who makes this sort of a say 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:01.880 it didn't work out, which I think we'd agree it 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.480 hasn't worked out that they wouldn't usually keep their job. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.880 But like it's status quo, like here we go still 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:09.360 doing this. 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.559 And that's the other Like they've actually drafted and had 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.040 really good players there, like there's been players that they've 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.480 hit on and you know, quarterback. I mean, look, Baker 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.760 Mayfield has been a good quarterback and they let him walk. Yeah, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.640 I just it's the whole thing. And that's that's the 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:26.240 other part of this too, because they were talking to 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.160 shoud Or Sanders and he was saying, you know, he 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.840 does he's not really worried about the quarterback competition. So 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.040 I don't think they're like and I'll ask the question, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:40.439 why is the Browns quarterback competition even even a topic 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.360 of conversation, because I don't think it's ever existed. I 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.360 don't think there was any shot that shoud Or Sanders 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:48.680 was going to be name starting quarterback this year other 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.400 than let Deshaun play, let him struggle, and then we'll go. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:53.320 To shad Or Sanders. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:57.640 I just don't see the damage done by the Shawn 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:02.520 Watson not playing more. I think fans could easily get 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.200 over the fact that he just played poorly, like he 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.600 just he was a failure as a player for the 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.280 contract that he got. But he played he has not 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:18.520 played very much at all, as you've alluded to. And 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:22.720 what it just makes me feel like is again in 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:27.680 looking at this scenario, DeShawn Watson does not get this 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:32.360 opportunity if Shador Sanders is the quarterback that they felt 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:37.120 is for the future. It's a definitive response to saying, 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.280 we do not believe we have the quarterback of our 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:46.480 future on this roster, including the Shawn Watson. So we're 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.320 gonna give to Shawn Watson the opportunity to play because 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.680 we're not confident we have the player our quarterback for 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.680 the future. This is more of an indictment on the 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:01.720 quarterbacks that they drafted versus the quarterback versus Deshaun Watson. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.880 But thought what was the hope with shud Or Sanders? 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.319 He was a Day three pick, Like I don't understand, 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.680 like why why were why were you banking on that 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:10.840 being the guy? 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:11.920 And maybe they weren't. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.640 Maybe there's there's people who feel like they got good 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.840 value in that, you know, maybe because of whatever the 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.720 perception was of him. Off the field or interviews or 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.320 whatever it is. I mean, you can make up, you know, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.160 whatever report you read, and that's their justification for why 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.440 he's slid in the draft. But they feel like they're 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.240 getting good value. It's no different than Mike McCarthy saying, hey, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.720 we got Drew out in the third round, but we 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.600 felt like he was a first round value and he 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:40.840 looked great his first preseason game. I just there's there's 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.880 optimism because he's the next guy. That's always the case 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.120 when you've got a quarterback who the fans feel like 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.120 is underperforming, the next guy is the fan favorite. He's 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.840 the most intriguing. The tough part for even how this 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:57.200 performance by Deshaun Watson was was packaged. I mean, it 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.520 looks great on a stat line, is eleven for fifteen 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.280 for like a in twenty six yards. I think he 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.280 had one ball that traveled over ten yards downfield. You know, 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.480 you look at his longest completion, it was a screen 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.760 to Dylan Samson. You know, his average air yards per 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.400 a temp were under five yards, So it was really 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:20.640 quick dinking and dunking in screens. And that's fine, but 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.280 you're not gonna be able to do that the entirety 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.640 of the season. You know, you've got to be able 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.360 to stretch the field vertically. And that's still where you 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.080 look at his gaming and go, yeah, we used to 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.560 see that in Houston and we've never really seen that 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.240 during his time in Cleveland. And so at least for Shador, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:37.680 who I feel like is at a point where he 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.960 likes throwing the ball down the field. He likes taking 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.800 those big shots and chunks. It's entirely different. And with 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.920 the young receivers, they've gotten Casey's conception own and Denzel Boston. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.400 I'd love to see, you know, what that looks like 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.200 for this year. But again, it's a business too, and 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.400 you've invested a lot of money to Sean Watson and 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.160 they'll probably end up wanting to see it out or 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.640 they probably feel maybe a little more confident in his 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.480 ability as a guy who's been in the NFL or 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.440 around the NFL for a long time to run an offense. 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.720 They give him the best shot they have of getting 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.080 in the right play, running the right play. You know 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.680 that those are all things too that that matter. Where 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.640 you know, shadors into a second year, but he's also 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.640 in his second year with a new offense again, so 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.400 there's gonna be some growing pains in that for him. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.440 Did Joe Flacco start the season last year for the 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:24.360 Cleveland Browns. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.160 Did Joe Flacco lose his. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.680 Remember because he's we had two stints there, right, Yeah, 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.680 I think they was the starting quarterback of the season 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.520 last year for the Cleveland Browns. God was God, that's 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:40.280 pretty pathetic. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:40.640 We don't know. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.480 This may's more pathetic. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.560 Listen, Dorian Thompson Robin like they've been. There's been seventy 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.080 five quarterbacks there in the last three years, Like, I mean, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.200 there's been a lot to keep track. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:54.640 Last year, all right, it was Joe Flacco, I believe, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:55.560 to start there. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.160 We go, okay, now, and. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.040 They traded him after they took him out, but I 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.000 was yeah, but at least they traded him out of 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:03.520 the division. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.240 So but hold on, hold on. Did he lose his 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.280 job because of how poorly he was playing? 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:10.840 Well, I think it was more of how the team 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:11.240 was playing. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.160 It's how the team was playing. Okay, he was. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.199 One, he was one and three in those the starts, 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:20.480 which he wasn't the problem. Let's just put it that way. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.960 Okay, Well, then you bring in Shador Sanders, and you 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.399 brought in Dylan Gate another loss. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.680 They didn't win very much when they brought them guys in, right, No, 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.240 I'm just I'm just he didn't even like you didn't 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:39.520 even start those guys. And listen, it's their rookie year, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.080 so I get it. But Joe Flacco is a journeyman. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.840 That's he's older, he's at the end of his career. 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.520 Is like on some like Philip Rivers time in terms 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.160 of oh, come on, well maybe not as many kids, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:59.080 but not as many kids, but he does he has 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:05.359 been looking pretty good. Uh but those those rookies, to me, 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.680 you saw both of them because none of them were 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.560 good enough to own the job. And even with a 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.120 Pro Bowl bid, he got a Pro Bowl bit no, no, no. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.720 No, no, both both had a Pro Bowl season. Fla 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.800 got a Pro Bowl season as well. Okay, I mean 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.280 what NFL roster last year had two Pro Bowl quarterbacks 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.480 on it? Yeah, Browns can say that. 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.680 Okay, all right, so before you. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.320 Go any further, be careful. Now they had two Pro 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:32.960 Bowl quarterbacks. 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.840 You remember that. Oh I can't, I must, I'm a 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.600 I'm gonna I'm all walk all through this with my 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.800 dude White, Hey, you remember that, Remember that Convention Center 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.439 with the bounce house inside where they had the Pro 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:45.240 Bowl last year? 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.360 Sure they were there. Put some respect on their names. Yeah, 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.040 put some respect on the name of ar you're a 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.280 pro bowler. I just Joe Flaker were there. Who had 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:54.600 a better year statistically? 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.200 Key Key the moscow in Center, ca Arder. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.120 Cara Order, Shador Sanders who had to better season last year? 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:10.440 Cam Warden The proper response is cute because it don't matter. 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.399 Either one of them were very impressive. Listen, all I 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:15.200 MusD say is. 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:22.159 Deshaun Watson is maybe he isn't lucky because maybe he doesn't. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.320 I feel like the way he has handled things, he 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.880 don't want to play, no more like he could act 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.560 as though he wants to play. He's ready for this season. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:30.320 He don't want to play. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.680 Well, they took away a superpower. Why would he want 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.080 to play? You saw Sammy Sosil last night, Ask him 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:39.480 what it was like with up and they tow ship. Thundertowel, Thundertowe. 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.280 Come on, thunder Towel. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.600 I mean he's made two hundred and thirty million in 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.119 his career to this point. Thunder towels and hoes. That 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.280 should be a T shirt. Yes, that should be a. 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.480 Bo Wait how much? 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:55.720 Wait? 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.080 How much is Deshaun wantson ma? 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:01.000